P. O. Ackley converted a type 38 to 30-06 and loaded extremely overpressured rounds in order to torture test the action. After failing to blow the rifle up, he recorded it as one of the strongest actions ever developed.
My great-grandfather brought back a captured Type 38 from the island of Saipan when he returned from service in the Pacific War. It might just be my favorite rifle because my fascination with it at an early age inspired my love for firearms history and design.
My dad brought back a Type 99 when he was on occupation duty in Yokosuka after the surrender. He said they had a pile of rifles and a pile of bayonets, every sailor was allowed to take one of each and ship them home. When him and my mom got married and bought a house in 1952, he brought it with him. My mom was thrilled having a gun in the house so my dad, an ex-navy gunner's mate, told her he'd file down the firing pin to make her feel better. So it sat over our TV from the late 50's to 2010 when he passed away. I had one gun, a Ruger 10/22 but I took my dad's Arisaka home and when, about 7 years later, I got interested in guns and took it apart to clean it. Found out he never ground down the firing pin! I found some ammo online and shot it for the first time....I will never get rid of that gun!
Hi y'all, I am a retired South Carolina Deputy Sheriff and in my last 15 years of service I was the departments Quartermaster and Armorer. I inherited a rusty Arisaka Type 99. I have completely restored the weapon to firing condition. My Grandfather sent it to my Father from the South Pacific. Prior to the 99 all of my experience was with modern firearms, but I completely enjoyed the process and have since had the chance to work on a M 1 Carbine. Didn't touch the finish on it just a thorough cleaning and replaced all the springs. I am enjoying your videos. Thanks .
@@dscrappygolani7981 they dont and its really sad... im American with Japanese ancestry and i want them to learn the truth of the good and bad of Japan during the war.
I think the reason for the rumors of soldiers ditching the dust covers is simple, the Marines and GIs who captured them found them unnecessary and pitched them before taking home their trophies
Well, when the trophies were loaded onto the boat, the officers asked everyone to take off the bolts because they didn't want working guns around drunken soldiers who were celebrating the fact they were returning home. Once the bolts were off, Americans who were not trained on the dust cover found it awkward to put back on so they didn't bother.
FWIW, in my life I have known 2 vets who brought back Arisakas and who told me they were taken by THEMSELVES in the field and neither had the dust-covers when captured. Both 6.5 incidentally, with intact mums. Can't speak about others but in these cases they were taken with dust covers removed. Maybe conditions in the field were more relaxed than in parade-ground duty? Passage of time makes asking the original capturing GI's for clarification impossible...
Dust cover is probably a misnomer. It was probably thought of as a mud cover. For normal use, and an expected engagement, it is a part that can come loose and complicate things. Take it off and keep it in your kit for rainy days and guard duty.
As a Korean, the fat that these rifles were even manufactured in Incheon. The Japanese colonial policy has focused heavy industrialization in the Northern Area of the peninsula. And two short-and-interesting stories for those who read my comments. One; these rifles were one of the most common rifles seen in the hands of Korean Freedom Fighters. Since Japan has placed Military Police throughout Korea to force marshal laws, it was pretty dam easy just to go to the local police armory and grabbing one - assuming if you didn't get caught in the way. Two; even after the liberation of Japan's colonies after WW2, these rifles were still in use by the militaries on both sides of the Korean Peninsula - mostly due to the fact that there was a HUGE stockpile of Japanese arms in Korea. That's all for now and Kudos to Othias, Mae, and every other person who devote long hours or money to help this show rolling!From South Korea, Jack the Korean Gun Nut.
farmerboy916 Well...for an average person to get a gun - good luck. It's very difficult to get a firearms ownership over here. If you want to know the details, ask me again since I need to take a call.
Yeah post war Arisaka dispersement is odd. They made it pretty wide but most countries pushed other designs despite the surplus. I guess using the hated guns must have felt odd.
Hey Mr. Do, My grandpa used to say the soldiers in his town had rifles that were very long right before the korean war and when he escaped to the south. He was from north korea. I always wondered if the rifles he spoke about were arisakas or mosin nagants.
@@alexpark4680 no clue though i would guess if just before the Korean war their more likely to be arisakas then mosins as mosins wouldn't be really removed from the soviet military until after the Korean war but it really could be either though i would lean on the former
Great-Granddad brought one back from the Pacific. It was built in 1934 in the Mukden arsenal (Manchuria). It preforms beautifully out to 200 yards and cycles with no problems. I totally agree with your choice of favorite rifle.
my grandfather worked at the kokura arsenal when the bombs were dropped. thanks to the cloud cover, he didnt have an atomic bomb dropped on him and my mom was born in 1949.
Nice catch Mr MadMax, I wasn't sure how many would pick up on that. This last January, listened to a podcast where Dugan was interviewed and it was nice to hear his voice again. Hopefully we'll see his channel come back some day, but I guess he's still very busy doing video, just won't open up about who he's doing it for. He was also at SHOT show 2017, but said nobody would recognize him without his Carnik Con costume on.
sleeve type striker adds another layer of steel between the spring, and the atmospheric elements intent on corroding it. it gives as much support as a wire guide, but greatly simplifies re-assembly (no dolls head whose neck must be broken to disassemble, or lined up to reassemble), as everything going into the rifle fits inside the piece in front of it (for those illiterate rice farmer conscripts). body slides forward onto extractor, sleeved pin slides forward into bolt body, spring slides forward into pin, pin on safety cap slides forward into spring. no mystery, no ambiguity, no muss, no fuss. everything slides "OUT" to disassemble, in nice regimented order, no "hand jive" manipulations needed. assembly is basically just packing stuff in by size places, same thing though, all 1 direction, front to back, only "IN" in every case, also with a complete lack of any "secret handshake" manipulations. it is basically an absolutely idiot proof bolt, which is about as rare as hen's teeth, honestly. it also comes as close to eliminating primer salt contamination of the spring as humanly possible, another major plus in the glory days of chlorate primers. that nambu was just about the john browning of japan, wasn't the wiley old cat?
I have a carbine and long type 38 and the dust cover does make operating the bolt a touch notchy but without it the action is super smooth. Its not a mauser safety more a carcano safety but it works fine
In TROTCS (Thai Reserve Officer Training Corps Student) It call Siam Mauser Type 66 it use 8×52. They have a lot of this gun and It use for lot of training. Ps. Without firing pin,dead bolt and missing rear sight lol. 😅 Sorry for my English if it wrong.
I remember all of the History channel documentaries about Japanese small arms and how junky and/or awkward they were. I fell into that crowd as well because of those documentaries. But since watching you guys and other RUclips channels and going on to more informed websites and authors, I've since rescinded my old opinions. The Japanese type 38 is probably one of my favorite bolt-action rifles ever made. I have yet to shoot one, however.
My father brought a type 38 back from the pacific in 1945. I have has the rifle in my possession for the past 15+ years. I think it shoots amazingly well. As a matter of fact the only thing that has prevented me from "shooting the fire out of it" has been ammunition availability. Now that I have a stash of quality Norma brass stockpiled, I will be purchasing a die set so I can start hand loading.
BigRedPower59 how u doing I just got an 38 need more info on it. It's all there has all the ww1 markings still can you text me back if you are still working with yours
It is not easy finding the fact about which type was used where during WW2. I searched for a long time for this information on the web to no avail. Many thanks to Othias for clearing things up : Type 99 mainly on the pacific islands and Burma, Type 38 mainly in China.
I have tons of milsurp rifles including several known for great accuracy such as the Swedish Mauser, K31, M39, Argentine Mausers, etc...but the absolute best group I've ever shot using iron sights is with my mismatched and beat to hell Type 38.
Came here from Forgotten Weapons video auto play listing. I just realised I have let your vids go for seven in a row- excellent thorough videos each time, in depth and shooting too? Gosh. Needless to say, likes are being dropped, subbing is a given, alerts are set and I'm recommending this channel to all my friends into military history. Keep up the excellent work!
I have a great deal of typing to do right now, I may or may not have misused some (all) of my break at university, but don't worry. There were pauses. Meals were had. :D
+William Cox It is so heartwarming to see people doing things like this for the greater good, to inform. It is a rare thing these days. I just wish one of the big shooting channels would give c&r some exposure. These guys deserve a million subs, let alone 100k.
The Type 30 and murata type 22 was used in the Trench war at the Battle of Mukden 1905. Because of their experience the Type 35/38 was born. Very accurate and no kick rifle but a Pain in the butt to reload with their oversized chambers.
Excellent video! Dad had fought at Luzon and had brought home a type 38 carbine, and my brother and I found it to be a great shooter despite the WW2 propaganda that was still around. One issue, and I'm surprised you guys didn't say anything about it, that is the oversized chambers that the manufactures build into their weapons. The Japanese military determined that using oversized chambers aided in casing exaction, especially in automatic weapons, but used them in all their infantry weapons. This doesn't present a problem until you start reloading. My brother and I found that the casing will rupture on about the 3rd time the bullet is reloaded, and thank GAWD for the vent system in this rifle!!! It wasn't until years later I found out a trick that can be used to get more reloads from fired cases, that is to put a 1/4" wide piece of tape just ahead of the rim groove. This helps center the casing in the chamber so all the expansion is spread around the casing and not to just one side (which is normal on casings fired in oversized chambers). AGAIN great video, I enjoyed the history.
Thank you for sharing a nice video. I'm astonished at your knowledge of Arisaka rifle which was designed by Nariakira Arisaka of "Chosyu", Yamaguchi prefecture.
I have a type 38 that was my fathers war trophy. He brought it home from Saipan. It is a wonderful rifle to shoot. Mild recoil and very accurate. I only wish that the ammunition was more reasonably priced.
Cartridge similarity. Compare the 6.5x53mmR (Dutch), the 6.5x54mm Mannlicher-Schonauer, the 6.5mm Carcano and the 6.5x50mm (Type 38) cartridges. Looking over the specification listings in Cartridges of the World they are within a couple of hundreds of an inch. (smaller than one millimeter). They have several different rims and the Carcano has a goofy (different) bore diameter. Even so, the cartridges are nearly interchangeable. The biggest difference is the Japanese cartridge used a 139 grain (9 gram) bullet rather than the other three using 160 grain (10.1 gram) bullets. Push type safety. I have heard or read the design of the safety was to ease handling in cold weather or wearing gloves. One can be inconvenienced by either and still work the safety rather easily. Strength of action and 'burst' rifles in Arabia. As you say, and others - including a couple friends of mine who field tested the type 38 action privately - and render the same finding. Could it be the rifles 'burst' in Arabia might have destroyed barrels with obstructions, rendering the arm useless (without a high echelon repair facility) without damaging the action? Just a thought, not a hill upon for me to die. Collecting WWI (and era) rifles is one of my interests. I do not yet own a Type 38 (I shall endeavor not to call it an "Arisaka"). It is on my list. I mainly need to find one in my looking.
Thanks Othias for good and detailed introduction of Type38. A couple of comments to back you up, one, when Type38 was designed and developed the hypothetical battle field for IJA was northern China and Siberia so the rifle was not intended for jungle battle. The purpose of the dust cover is to protect action from sand, spring mad and ice/snow. At the same time, the safety operated as push-turn by palm is totally this reason. Not with modern nice hi-tech material but with cotton or heavy leather gloves on infantry man's hands, this operation is purposely designed. Even with gloves your fingers are all useless or totally dead with frost bite, palm push breaks ice, frozen mud out from the mechanism and make turn the safety. A very reasonable design.
Well, I may love my Enfield, but that one sure did impress. I'm not a fan of how long it is, but that's just making me excited for the episode on carbines!
Ah nevermind lol. In other news, Ian just confirmed that he and Karl have filmed a mud test on a type 99 or 38, he didn't specify which, but it has yet to be uploaded.
I did what you suggested and looked up the video on Type 30 first. I'm so used to calling all of these Arisaka so it feels weird to think only the Type 30 was really an Arisaka. Could one shoot the new spitzer bullet with the old Type 30?
Hi, C&Rsenal, this is a small comment, you showed an emblem (28m:20sec), two circles combined by several ovals inside, that is the emperor' s signs (chrysanthemum). Japan soldiers, after boot training, wore told "this rifle is the donation from Emperor, you never loose, even a small parts".....You mention that they did not remove "dust cover", this is absolutly true, because if he miss the rifle, he will be prisoned..(from Tokyo, many thanks)
I can only speak for my self, but with out a Shadow of doubt, i am most defiantly still enjoying your videos and long for every episode.The time draws ever near to when i will be able to help you through Patreon. Keep up the great work and long may the best channel on RUclips prosper. Thank you for everything. Huge love from the UK.
Looks like InRange heard..they have an Arisaka 38 mud test..It's Arisaka week. One of my favorites. And one I already have, no need to go and C&Rsenalquire this one..well until I wants mo.
I purchased a type 38 that was sporterized several years ago and as neglected and poorly treated as it was it is one of my favorite hunting and plinking rifles so I agree with you both.
I love the idea that up until the Type 38 and it's contemporaries, Japan was still using flintlock muskets. That's quite a leap in technology. Almost like going from the Wright brother's plane straight to a P-51
Yep they realized very quickly after the Americans broke their isolation by steaming into Tokyo harbor that they needed to modernize quickly. It also unfortunately put them on the path to Japanese colonialism that brought them in conflict with other colonial powers and eventual total defeat in WWII.
Well, after Tanegashima muskets, they adopted a bunch of Western rifles before creating the single shot Murata. I wouldn't say it was as drastic as adopting state of the art fighter planes right after gliders.
Not even flintlocks, actually; they were even more primitive snapping matchlocks. And they only knew how to make those from copying examples they received from Portuguese explorers in the 1540s.
The Japanese used single shot rifles in the Boshin war of 1868, their first domestically produced modern rifle was the Murata in 1880. The Arisakas came way later.
As a Chinese I have such a complicated feeling toward this gun. On one hand I like how effective this gun can be but on the other hand I cannot forget how much destruction it have done to my ancestors
My wife's great uncle brought one back, took me awhile to figure what it was, glad I scored some factory ammo while it was available it is a Type I made in 1939
A very beautiful rifle, I'm hoping to get one myself soon and as always I try to see what Othias & Mae have to say about the rifle. Really informative videos on this channel.
My 1909 type 38 has a unique safety with the extra extended tear drop protrusion but the bad part about these is they are cut so that it doesn't block sight picture when safety is activated
Also here's a rifle with a very interesting history and from Mexico said to be the very first semi-automatic for it's day the Mondragon rifle. Anyway may want to get legal parts behind that and maybe get that for something.
If you have stronger hands and spend enough time growing accustomed to the rifle, you can easily actuate the safety with your right thumb while still holding the wrist of the rifle.
IIRC the bolts at least got kinda mix-and-matched on the guns brought home by US soldiers as they had the bolts removed for the trip home, and then whatever bolt fit well was what got put back in. I know that does't address the complete question, but maybe a part of it?
I hear back song when a lady shoot nambu38, that is a Japan-Manchuria army's (Kanto Gun) military song. It says "several hundreds miles from patriot land, far away in Manchuria, friends who punished enemies, are now in field under rocks....Thus we Japanese reminders the victory of Japono-russo war (1904~05). Big thanks for your RUclips mouvie (from Tokyo).
The primary purpose of the third lug on the bolt is to activate the ejector, the same as the M1903 Springfield. Take a close look in the receiver while operation the bolt.
Ah but like others you could do the same with the actual left lug. So why bother with another? Ejector control hasn't deformed anything. It is the impact on the bolt stop that could damage lugs.
Another great episode Othias and May! I would wholeheartedly agree that the Type 38 is a beauty, not only simple but rugged and mine is a real tack driver. Keep up the great work and collaboration Indy and the Great War crew....can't get enough
Very informative, very enjoyable. I am now hooked after one episode. I am a Curio and Relic holder. I happen to have a type 38 that I bought in 1989. It is a Tokyo Stacked Cannonball Mark. Serial 1,820,1xx , I'm guessing 1920-1923. Due to the lack of ammo back when I bought it I had it re-chambered to 6.5x55 Swedish. It will clover leaf 3 rounds at 100 yards (until that 800mm barrel warms up, then it walks a bit).
Type 99 was probably not worth replacing Type 38, especially considering the ammo supply problems. But Japan was making a lot of weird decisions going into WW2 that were seriously not thinking things through, seemed to have an idea of the only problem is a lack of confidence.
Indeed. The biggest was giving priority to the Navy over the Army. Sticking to guns, they wanted to use a heavier calibre (7.7mm) because everybody else was. Little did they know everybody was looking to switch to a smaller calibre and even today 6.5mm is coming back.
An interesting book is by Seagrave, "The Yamato Dynasty". One thing that struck me about that time in Japan, was the promotion of the cult of the Emperor, and the manipulation of the royal family , by the military industrial complex consisting of five families. Censorship and propaganda and harsh punishments --- no criticism or even the slightest disrespect allowed. At wars end, the 5 families managed to avoid any responsibility and kept all their wealth.
P. O. Ackley converted a type 38 to 30-06 and loaded extremely overpressured rounds in order to torture test the action. After failing to blow the rifle up, he recorded it as one of the strongest actions ever developed.
Hatcher did the same thing to a 99. Even shot 30-06 down a unconverted action and it fired fine. Insane how strong these rifles are.
@@rogainegaming6924 if im not mistaken they are designed to fail away from the shooter as well.
@@acester86 yep. That hole below the mum is designed to vent gas in case of a rupture, as well as the bolt being designed to vent it away too.
@@rogainegaming6924 only the Japanese known to do this feature so far?
@@Joshua_N-A German and ther Gewher 98 and K98 I think
My great-grandfather brought back a captured Type 38 from the island of Saipan when he returned from service in the Pacific War. It might just be my favorite rifle because my fascination with it at an early age inspired my love for firearms history and design.
Thanks for sharing that! It's nice to hear how people get hooked.
Ha battlefield looting is fun
My dad brought back a Type 99 when he was on occupation duty in Yokosuka after the surrender. He said they had a pile of rifles and a pile of bayonets, every sailor was allowed to take one of each and ship them home. When him and my mom got married and bought a house in 1952, he brought it with him. My mom was thrilled having a gun in the house so my dad, an ex-navy gunner's mate, told her he'd file down the firing pin to make her feel better. So it sat over our TV from the late 50's to 2010 when he passed away. I had one gun, a Ruger 10/22 but I took my dad's Arisaka home and when, about 7 years later, I got interested in guns and took it apart to clean it. Found out he never ground down the firing pin! I found some ammo online and shot it for the first time....I will never get rid of that gun!
@@gtc1961love thus story man. Don't ever give that baby up!
Hi y'all, I am a retired South Carolina Deputy Sheriff and in my last 15 years of service I was the departments Quartermaster and Armorer. I inherited a rusty Arisaka Type 99. I have completely restored the weapon to firing condition. My Grandfather sent it to my Father from the South Pacific. Prior to the 99 all of my experience was with modern firearms, but I completely enjoyed the process and have since had the chance to work on a M 1 Carbine. Didn't touch the finish on it just a thorough cleaning and replaced all the springs. I am enjoying your videos. Thanks .
Glad to hear it!
Thank you I’m Japanese but I only knew Nanbu by the hand gun. Didn’t know he was the designer of more famous type 38.
They don't talk about the war much in Japan.
@@dscrappygolani7981 they dont and its really sad... im American with Japanese ancestry and i want them to learn the truth of the good and bad of Japan during the war.
He designed a bunch of their light machine guns, too.
Kijiro Nambu also designed the Type 100 submachine gun, among several HMG and LMGs used by the Japanese.
@@Fr1thar Unit 731.
My Japanese exchange student freaked out when I showed him that. Apparently Japanese WWII war crimes aren't taught in Japan.
I think the reason for the rumors of soldiers ditching the dust covers is simple, the Marines and GIs who captured them found them unnecessary and pitched them before taking home their trophies
Well, when the trophies were loaded onto the boat, the officers asked everyone to take off the bolts because they didn't want working guns around drunken soldiers who were celebrating the fact they were returning home. Once the bolts were off, Americans who were not trained on the dust cover found it awkward to put back on so they didn't bother.
@@mightza3781 That's also why most of the bolts aren't matching. It's a damn shame, really.
FWIW, in my life I have known 2 vets who brought back Arisakas and who told me they were taken by THEMSELVES in the field and neither had the dust-covers when captured. Both 6.5 incidentally, with intact mums. Can't speak about others but in these cases they were taken with dust covers removed. Maybe conditions in the field were more relaxed than in parade-ground duty? Passage of time makes asking the original capturing GI's for clarification impossible...
In "Shots Fired in Anger" John B. George says the Japanese removed their dust covers themselves.
Dust cover is probably a misnomer. It was probably thought of as a mud cover. For normal use, and an expected engagement, it is a part that can come loose and complicate things. Take it off and keep it in your kit for rainy days and guard duty.
我々日本人にもわかりやすい説明をありがとうございます
Thank you upload very nice video
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しかしこのオタ夫婦？は趣味にどっぷりで幸せそうです
Nice
I agree
As a Korean, the fat that these rifles were even manufactured in Incheon. The Japanese colonial policy has focused heavy industrialization in the Northern Area of the peninsula. And two short-and-interesting stories for those who read my comments. One; these rifles were one of the most common rifles seen in the hands of Korean Freedom Fighters. Since Japan has placed Military Police throughout Korea to force marshal laws, it was pretty dam easy just to go to the local police armory and grabbing one - assuming if you didn't get caught in the way. Two; even after the liberation of Japan's colonies after WW2, these rifles were still in use by the militaries on both sides of the Korean Peninsula - mostly due to the fact that there was a HUGE stockpile of Japanese arms in Korea. That's all for now and Kudos to Othias, Mae, and every other person who devote long hours or money to help this show rolling!From South Korea, Jack the Korean Gun Nut.
What are gun laws like in korea?
farmerboy916 Well...for an average person to get a gun - good luck. It's very difficult to get a firearms ownership over here. If you want to know the details, ask me again since I need to take a call.
Yeah post war Arisaka dispersement is odd. They made it pretty wide but most countries pushed other designs despite the surplus. I guess using the hated guns must have felt odd.
Hey Mr. Do,
My grandpa used to say the soldiers in his town had rifles that were very long right before the korean war and when he escaped to the south.
He was from north korea. I always wondered if the rifles he spoke about were arisakas or mosin nagants.
@@alexpark4680 no clue though i would guess if just before the Korean war their more likely to be arisakas then mosins as mosins wouldn't be really removed from the soviet military until after the Korean war but it really could be either though i would lean on the former
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Great-Granddad brought one back from the Pacific. It was built in 1934 in the Mukden arsenal (Manchuria). It preforms beautifully out to 200 yards and cycles with no problems. I totally agree with your choice of favorite rifle.
Nice
Glorious Nippon Steel.
my grandfather worked at the kokura arsenal when the bombs were dropped. thanks to the cloud cover, he didnt have an atomic bomb dropped on him and my mom was born in 1949.
Semi-Rimmed ammo, for the extractor's pleasure.
Lol
Player Review turn them fully rimmed for the head spacing pleasure
I keep forgetting where that line is from.
MCG55555 It's from Carnikon
Nice catch Mr MadMax, I wasn't sure how many would pick up on that. This last January, listened to a podcast where Dugan was interviewed and it was nice to hear his voice again. Hopefully we'll see his channel come back some day, but I guess he's still very busy doing video, just won't open up about who he's doing it for. He was also at SHOT show 2017, but said nobody would recognize him without his Carnik Con costume on.
Learning about Japan in ww1 is actually pretty cool
Quinn Newman i agree
And amusing. Like how they got the German POWs to teach them how to make beer and that's why Asahi beer taste similar to German beer.
Weaboos be like: " It's not cool, it's a must"
“I know it’s not the most attractive thing in the world”
Me: it’s freaking beautiful!
It is a very nice looking gun, but i also love the look of the owen smg and ar-18
sleeve type striker adds another layer of steel between the spring, and the atmospheric elements intent on corroding it. it gives as much support as a wire guide, but greatly simplifies re-assembly (no dolls head whose neck must be broken to disassemble, or lined up to reassemble), as everything going into the rifle fits inside the piece in front of it (for those illiterate rice farmer conscripts). body slides forward onto extractor, sleeved pin slides forward into bolt body, spring slides forward into pin, pin on safety cap slides forward into spring. no mystery, no ambiguity, no muss, no fuss. everything slides "OUT" to disassemble, in nice regimented order, no "hand jive" manipulations needed. assembly is basically just packing stuff in by size places, same thing though, all 1 direction, front to back, only "IN" in every case, also with a complete lack of any "secret handshake" manipulations. it is basically an absolutely idiot proof bolt, which is about as rare as hen's teeth, honestly. it also comes as close to eliminating primer salt contamination of the spring as humanly possible, another major plus in the glory days of chlorate primers. that nambu was just about the john browning of japan, wasn't the wiley old cat?
Good points!
@@Candrsenal how did you get your hands on these arisaka’s they are beautiful
I have a carbine and long type 38 and the dust cover does make operating the bolt a touch notchy but without it the action is super smooth. Its not a mauser safety more a carcano safety but it works fine
In TROTCS (Thai Reserve Officer Training Corps Student) It call Siam Mauser Type 66 it use 8×52. They have a lot of this gun and It use for lot of training. Ps. Without firing pin,dead bolt and missing rear sight lol. 😅
Sorry for my English if it wrong.
if the rifle cant shoot or aim, whats even the point of this training? 🤔
@@bezahltersystemtroll5055 Basically a burden while you are living(training) in a jungle.
@@bezahltersystemtroll5055 drill, bayonet practice, safety, hand to hand combat
A very honorable rifle.
nippon steel folded over 1000 times
Quenched in the blood of 1001 virgins atop Mount Fuji.
You mean Honourabu!
Our men are running shameful disspray!
@@bobskywalker2707 total war?
I remember all of the History channel documentaries about Japanese small arms and how junky and/or awkward they were.
I fell into that crowd as well because of those documentaries. But since watching you guys and other RUclips channels and going on to more informed websites and authors, I've since rescinded my old opinions.
The Japanese type 38 is probably one of my favorite bolt-action rifles ever made. I have yet to shoot one, however.
Othias, why are you talking about the type 38 while wearing a shirt featuring the type 99? I can see where your loyalties lay.
Never wear the shirt of the band you're going to see. DON'T BE THAT GUY!
Erik Zamudio yeah, to the emperor
Where can I find that shirt?
He likes a shirt of a high caliber
17:55 it never ceases to amaze me just how many factors of safety they designed into this rifle.
The AK of bolt-actions. Fine rifle, never you mind the detractors. I'd love to have one as much as I want a Garand and Mauser.👍👍👍
Thank you for commentary based on an objective historical view. I was impressed by the rich knowledge of the distributor. From Japan.
My father brought a type 38 back from the pacific in 1945. I have has the rifle in my possession for the past 15+ years. I think it shoots amazingly well. As a matter of fact the only thing that has prevented me from "shooting the fire out of it" has been ammunition availability. Now that I have a stash of quality Norma brass stockpiled, I will be purchasing a die set so I can start hand loading.
BigRedPower59 how u doing I just got an 38 need more info on it. It's all there has all the ww1 markings still can you text me back if you are still working with yours
Developed any good loads yet?
I am glad that you have studied Japanese rifles in detail and cherished them so much. Great report.
凄く詳細で解り易い説明。
Thank you from Japan😄👍🇯🇵
日本の銃を愛してくれてありがとう
これからもずっと大事にしてください
I have a type 38. Intact mum as well 😊
It is not easy finding the fact about which type was used where during WW2. I searched for a long time for this information on the web to no avail.
Many thanks to Othias for clearing things up : Type 99 mainly on the pacific islands and Burma, Type 38 mainly in China.
*mostly
I have tons of milsurp rifles including several known for great accuracy such as the Swedish Mauser, K31, M39, Argentine Mausers, etc...but the absolute best group I've ever shot using iron sights is with my mismatched and beat to hell Type 38.
Impressive! Which was the second best?
Came here from Forgotten Weapons video auto play listing. I just realised I have let your vids go for seven in a row- excellent thorough videos each time, in depth and shooting too? Gosh.
Needless to say, likes are being dropped, subbing is a given, alerts are set and I'm recommending this channel to all my friends into military history. Keep up the excellent work!
Glad to hear you're enjoying it but 7? Dang. We let them run sorta long.
I have a great deal of typing to do right now, I may or may not have misused some (all) of my break at university, but don't worry. There were pauses. Meals were had. :D
Just watched you guys on the Great War channel and now a new video today. Awesome.
So too much?
haha no, I enjoy these videos very much.
Never too much.
Great to see you guys collaborating in the free and open dissemination of data with the purpose of education. Thanks. Makes my day.
+William Cox It is so heartwarming to see people doing things like this for the greater good, to inform. It is a rare thing these days.
I just wish one of the big shooting channels would give c&r some exposure. These guys deserve a million subs, let alone 100k.
The Type 30 and murata type 22 was used in the Trench war at the Battle of Mukden 1905. Because of their experience the Type 35/38 was born. Very accurate and no kick rifle but a Pain in the butt to reload with their oversized chambers.
日本でもなかなか入手のしにくい情報ですね…。
ありがとうございます！！
Why? If you don't mind.
Bill Melater
Japan has very little information during World War II. Many rifles were scrapped after the war. We cannot see.
@@メグロモスアウト That is a shame. They are wonderful rifles.
Bill Melater
I am glad that overseas people are interested in Japan. I am Japanese, but I will study more about Japan.
@@メグロモスアウト it really is a beautiful rifle, and a true pleasure to shoot.
31:00 *Othais profusely declares his never ending love for the type 38*
Excellent video! Dad had fought at Luzon and had brought home a type 38 carbine, and my brother and I found it to be a great shooter despite the WW2 propaganda that was still around. One issue, and I'm surprised you guys didn't say anything about it, that is the oversized chambers that the manufactures build into their weapons. The Japanese military determined that using oversized chambers aided in casing exaction, especially in automatic weapons, but used them in all their infantry weapons. This doesn't present a problem until you start reloading. My brother and I found that the casing will rupture on about the 3rd time the bullet is reloaded, and thank GAWD for the vent system in this rifle!!! It wasn't until years later I found out a trick that can be used to get more reloads from fired cases, that is to put a 1/4" wide piece of tape just ahead of the rim groove. This helps center the casing in the chamber so all the expansion is spread around the casing and not to just one side (which is normal on casings fired in oversized chambers). AGAIN great video, I enjoyed the history.
Thank you for sharing a nice video. I'm astonished at your knowledge of Arisaka rifle which was designed by Nariakira Arisaka of "Chosyu", Yamaguchi prefecture.
Great videos! Speaking of 6.5mm cartridges, please do a segment on the Swedish Mauser type 1896.
After we get put of WWI
@@Candrsenal hmm, this comment aged interestingly
他の動画にも日本語字幕ほしいなぁ
それな。日本語字幕があったらもっと人気になると思うんだけどな。
That qualified second favorite selection by Mae seemed instigated by a desire to avoid hurting Othais's feelings.
I have a type 38 that was my fathers war trophy. He brought it home from Saipan. It is a wonderful rifle to shoot. Mild recoil and very accurate. I only wish that the ammunition was more reasonably priced.
Wow these are the best gun videos I've seen
Cartridge similarity. Compare the 6.5x53mmR (Dutch), the 6.5x54mm Mannlicher-Schonauer, the 6.5mm Carcano and the 6.5x50mm (Type 38) cartridges. Looking over the specification listings in Cartridges of the World they are within a couple of hundreds of an inch. (smaller than one millimeter). They have several different rims and the Carcano has a goofy (different) bore diameter. Even so, the cartridges are nearly interchangeable. The biggest difference is the Japanese cartridge used a 139 grain (9 gram) bullet rather than the other three using 160 grain (10.1 gram) bullets.
Push type safety. I have heard or read the design of the safety was to ease handling in cold weather or wearing gloves. One can be inconvenienced by either and still work the safety rather easily.
Strength of action and 'burst' rifles in Arabia. As you say, and others - including a couple friends of mine who field tested the type 38 action privately - and render the same finding. Could it be the rifles 'burst' in Arabia might have destroyed barrels with obstructions, rendering the arm useless (without a high echelon repair facility) without damaging the action? Just a thought, not a hill upon for me to die.
Collecting WWI (and era) rifles is one of my interests. I do not yet own a Type 38 (I shall endeavor not to call it an "Arisaka"). It is on my list. I mainly need to find one in my looking.
'Maegun' sounds positively oriental.
It sounds like a name for a mecha suit.
Get in the gun, Mae!
Megan
I just loooooove the dry dorky burns!! 15:46 had me actually loling, not something I am usually prone to do! Cheers!
射程距離の長い銃で、しかも泥の入らないようにカバーつけてますもんね
Just stumbled on your channel! It's awesome!
Thanks!
their website is actually even better!! i discovered that first, then stumbled on their channel.
My grandfather left me one of these rifles. It still has a engravings on the upper receiver too.
good job.
I find my favorite the type 38 rifle
I still hope to see another of the arisaka
Thanks
May is hard to please... Perhaps she should try out my "Arsenal".
I don't think shoving a Type 38 up your Arse is going to make Mae like it more.
hello and welcome to judging by the cover
Thanks Othias for good and detailed introduction of Type38. A couple of comments to back you up, one, when Type38 was designed and developed the hypothetical battle field for IJA was northern China and Siberia so the rifle was not intended for jungle battle. The purpose of the dust cover is to protect action from sand, spring mad and ice/snow. At the same time, the safety operated as push-turn by palm is totally this reason. Not with modern nice hi-tech material but with cotton or heavy leather gloves on infantry man's hands, this operation is purposely designed. Even with gloves your fingers are all useless or totally dead with frost bite, palm push breaks ice, frozen mud out from the mechanism and make turn the safety. A very reasonable design.
Very helpful, improved my knowledge of the arisaka 38. Have a model with 5 numbered serial #. Having some problems with bolt.
Great channel, family friendly, and almost (But not) excruciating in detail... a true treasure trove of knowledge
Well, I may love my Enfield, but that one sure did impress. I'm not a fan of how long it is, but that's just making me excited for the episode on carbines!
Your what now?
Ah nevermind lol. In other news, Ian just confirmed that he and Karl have filmed a mud test on a type 99 or 38, he didn't specify which, but it has yet to be uploaded.
SteamPoweredRudeBoy
Where did he confirm that?
I posed the question to him on his most recent experimental Japanese rifle video. I can try to link the comment, if you'd like.
To be more specific, his video giving an overview of the Japanese ZH-29 is where that comment was posted.
I did what you suggested and looked up the video on Type 30 first. I'm so used to calling all of these Arisaka so it feels weird to think only the Type 30 was really an Arisaka.
Could one shoot the new spitzer bullet with the old Type 30?
I can't see why not. I'd imagine that your sights aren't calibrated to it though.
Hi, C&Rsenal, this is a small comment, you showed an emblem (28m:20sec), two circles combined by several ovals inside, that is the emperor' s signs (chrysanthemum). Japan soldiers, after boot training, wore told "this rifle is the donation from Emperor, you never loose, even a small parts".....You mention that they did not remove "dust cover", this is absolutly true, because if he miss the rifle, he will be prisoned..(from Tokyo, many thanks)
I can only speak for my self, but with out a Shadow of doubt, i am most defiantly still enjoying your videos and long for every episode.The time draws ever near to when i will be able to help you through Patreon. Keep up the great work and long may the best channel on RUclips prosper. Thank you for everything.
Huge love from the UK.
We're glad you're watching, no need to break the bank!
Looks like InRange heard..they have an Arisaka 38 mud test..It's Arisaka week. One of my favorites. And one I already have, no need to go and C&Rsenalquire this one..well until I wants mo.
sorry
Just yesterday got a sporterized carbine. It still has it's original sights and it handles beautifully. Small problem, I can't find 6.5 ammo for it...
I purchased a type 38 that was sporterized several years ago and as neglected and poorly treated as it was it is one of my favorite hunting and plinking rifles so I agree with you both.
Woo!
I really like Nambu, one of my favourite arms designers.
Awesome video... big help to me and my garage sale type 38... thanks for posting
32:20 ”so anyway" が、”それでは"・・・”に聞こえて面白い。
Can you please include weights and measures in metric as well?
I love the idea that up until the Type 38 and it's contemporaries, Japan was still using flintlock muskets. That's quite a leap in technology. Almost like going from the Wright brother's plane straight to a P-51
Yep they realized very quickly after the Americans broke their isolation by steaming into Tokyo harbor that they needed to modernize quickly. It also unfortunately put them on the path to Japanese colonialism that brought them in conflict with other colonial powers and eventual total defeat in WWII.
Well, after Tanegashima muskets, they adopted a bunch of Western rifles before creating the single shot Murata. I wouldn't say it was as drastic as adopting state of the art fighter planes right after gliders.
Matthew Pham Hence why I said "almost like." I couldn't come up with a better analogy
Not even flintlocks, actually; they were even more primitive snapping matchlocks. And they only knew how to make those from copying examples they received from Portuguese explorers in the 1540s.
The Japanese used single shot rifles in the Boshin war of 1868, their first domestically produced modern rifle was the Murata in 1880. The Arisakas came way later.
I take it "No bang-o", is a very technical, shooting term? Lol
The most technical.
Thank you for making this
Thanks for watching
Thanks for the history
Same guys as the Papa Nambu pistol?
他のシリーズにも日本語字幕付けて欲しい
説明が上手なので、それは共感します
I have a numbers matching Type 99. Waiting for your review on that.
Wrong war
Will you guys be covering the Mexican contract arisak type 38 rifles next episode by chance?
Thanks for posting. We have two type 38s at the museum I volunteer.
Thanks for watching!
I love the handsome requirement. The man understood the importance of the soldiers confidence in his weapon.
Rewatching this video and noticing for the first time the gas blowback coming out of the action area during Mae's slo-mo shot.
As a Chinese I have such a complicated feeling toward this gun. On one hand I like how effective this gun can be but on the other hand I cannot forget how much destruction it have done to my ancestors
My wife's great uncle brought one back, took me awhile to figure what it was, glad I scored some factory ammo while it was available it is a Type I made in 1939
Really enjoy the videos ,,,you and May have it all together ,,,,wonderful combination ,,,,type 38 is one of my favorites !! 😎
Glad to hear!
A very beautiful rifle, I'm hoping to get one myself soon and as always I try to see what Othias & Mae have to say about the rifle. Really informative videos on this channel.
My 1909 type 38 has a unique safety with the extra extended tear drop protrusion but the bad part about these is they are cut so that it doesn't block sight picture when safety is activated
Also here's a rifle with a very interesting history and from Mexico said to be the very first semi-automatic for it's day the Mondragon rifle. Anyway may want to get legal parts behind that and maybe get that for something.
If you have stronger hands and spend enough time growing accustomed to the rifle, you can easily actuate the safety with your right thumb while still holding the wrist of the rifle.
Ah, Pump & Rock.. Also the theme of our senior prom
Gross
Re-watching as one of these beauties has found it's way into my collection :D
How much did you pay? If you don't mind me asking. Been thinking about getting one or a 99 but I don't know what price I should be looking for.
You did this wonderful rifle justice. Mr. Nambu would approve. I do too.
Can you tell us what kind of rifles you have behind you in each episode? I bet at least a few people are wondering about this.
This needs to be added to the Primer playlist.
thanks
Is it common for Arisaka rifles (Specifically Type 38 and 99) to have matching serial numbers? I cant really find any solid info online :/
IIRC the bolts at least got kinda mix-and-matched on the guns brought home by US soldiers as they had the bolts removed for the trip home, and then whatever bolt fit well was what got put back in. I know that does't address the complete question, but maybe a part of it?
Late reply but sorta? Both my Arisakas have matching bolts but other bits are not really matching
I hear back song when a lady shoot nambu38, that is a Japan-Manchuria army's (Kanto Gun) military song. It says "several hundreds miles from patriot land, far away in Manchuria, friends who punished enemies, are now in field under rocks....Thus we Japanese reminders the victory of Japono-russo war (1904~05). Big thanks for your RUclips mouvie (from Tokyo).
I found serial number 69,xxx Tokyo type 38 was wondering what year it was manufacturing
YES!!!!! Finally, I have been waiting for this video! Thank you, Curios & Relics Arsenal.
np
The primary purpose of the third lug on the bolt is to activate the ejector, the same as the M1903 Springfield. Take a close look in the receiver while operation the bolt.
Ah but like others you could do the same with the actual left lug. So why bother with another? Ejector control hasn't deformed anything. It is the impact on the bolt stop that could damage lugs.
These vids have a lot of re-watch to them, thanks for the effort :D
Barru isa forged of glorious Nippon Steeru!
Folded ova 1000 times so they can Enda
dishonorabu Gaijin rightly.
MrJizzy181
But where is the pommel of mass destruction?
Really great video! Thanks for taking the time and energy to make this.
Another great episode Othias and May! I would wholeheartedly agree that the Type 38 is a beauty, not only simple but rugged and mine is a real tack driver. Keep up the great work and collaboration Indy and the Great War crew....can't get enough
Glad to hear!
Very informative, very enjoyable. I am now hooked after one episode. I am a Curio and Relic holder. I happen to have a type 38 that I bought in 1989. It is a Tokyo Stacked Cannonball Mark. Serial 1,820,1xx , I'm guessing 1920-1923. Due to the lack of ammo back when I bought it I had it re-chambered to 6.5x55 Swedish. It will clover leaf 3 rounds at 100 yards (until that 800mm barrel warms up, then it walks a bit).
Type 99 was probably not worth replacing Type 38, especially considering the ammo supply problems. But Japan was making a lot of weird decisions going into WW2 that were seriously not thinking things through, seemed to have an idea of the only problem is a lack of confidence.
Indeed. The biggest was giving priority to the Navy over the Army.
Sticking to guns, they wanted to use a heavier calibre (7.7mm) because everybody else was. Little did they know everybody was looking to switch to a smaller calibre and even today 6.5mm is coming back.
They decided the rifle was under powered in the invasion of China. Chinese wore heavy clothes and the 6.5 couldn't knock them down
@@jamesbeason9256Utter nonsense.
An interesting book is by Seagrave, "The Yamato Dynasty". One thing that struck me about that time in Japan, was the promotion of the cult of the Emperor, and the manipulation of the royal family , by the military industrial complex consisting of five families. Censorship and propaganda and harsh punishments --- no criticism or even the slightest disrespect allowed. At wars end, the 5 families managed to avoid any responsibility and kept all their wealth.