History of WWI Primer 086: Belgian Mauser 1889 Documentary
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- Опубликовано: 21 окт 2018
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Othais and Mae delve into the story of this WWI classic. Complete with history, function, and live fire demonstration.
C&Rsenal presents its WWI Primer series; covering the firearms of this historic conflict one at a time in honor of the centennial anniversary. Join us every other Tuesday!
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Additional reading:
FN Mauser Rifles: Arming Belgium and the World
Anthony Vanderlinden
Mauser Bolt Rifles
Ludwig Olson
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Ammunition data thanks to DrakeGmbH
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For people like me (interested in context), the HISTORY is the MEAT. The hardware and the machining are fascinating and take us deeper into armaments...but weapons need purpose.
Right. That is the reason I am here. If I just wanted to see shooting, or just wanted some diagrams, I can find that. The history I can find too....after hours and hours of research. I will let Othias handle that, ha.
I wish there was a playlist of a version without the shooting part. Can't watch these at night, the shooting part keeps waking me up.
It's actually quite amazing that there is an hour-long video about the obscure ww1 service rifle my country used in the first world war. Thank you!
I just wanna say, I love your name. One of my favorite movies
but Nigel Farage said "...belgium is pretty much a non country..."
"oh yes. here we are" casually pulls rifle from THE WALL OF GUNS. I love this show.
What? I dont see any guardsmen anywhere
Its the ultimate form of library
I will never complain about “too much context”. Context is exactly the reason I love this channel.
Never going to complain about more Mausers! Thanks for giving me something to watch after work over my midnight dinner guys
I love von Spee!
I mean, the rifles themselves started blurring together a long time ago. Fortunately the context/history helps to define each episode.
If Othias was 'just' talking about the rifles, I probably wouldn't bother watching. XD
"History is alive. Get out and do your own work. It's beautiful." Othias, 2018. Added to my list of quotable quotes. Thank you!
These always trip me up in Verdun because Belgian squads aren't common, and they use the same sound effect as the German Mausers. So I'm minding my own business fighting the Boche, when suddenly I hear Mausers going off to one side of me - and freak out because holy crap the Germans flanked us and they're in our trench - and then it turns out it was the Belgians and my freaking out was unjustified, and a real German headshots me while I'm standing there like an idiot being scared of the Belgians.
I know the feel, but as someone who always plays German I get extremely confused when it says I get shot by a “Gew. 89”
I'm so used to seeing Tommies and Americans on the US servers, that the blue uniforms of the French make me panic if I come upon them suddenly.
Sorry for scaring you
Even the carbine sound the same
The Gewehr 89 is fast becoming one of my new favorite rifles. It’s like 98 Without the langevizer sights and it feels less cumbersome as well. I like that the rifle is Paul Mauser’s middle finger to the German general staff for going behind his back and designing a new rifle->Gewehr 88, so he designs a new rifle for the Belgians to make the 88 obsolete.
After having an 1891 Argentine for about a year and a half only halfway through this episode did I find out that the magazine was detachable. Thank you for showing that because I doubt I ever would have found out otherwise.
Who else comes here just for the history at the start of the video? I like the rest, but Othais storytelling is just a joy to hear.
M.A.E...
Illuminati confirmed!
Also, if you want to see a rough rifle, my 1903 has 2 bolts holding the wrist together. As well as the broken sight slider. It has Kuomintang ownership marks so it probably saw service in both wars
I like to call the Gewehr 88 the gun that made Mauser.....
So bloody furious that he gave so many countries guns that could beat it.
The belgians had dog mounted machine guns? Belgium has the best kind of weird.
Dog towed on a little carriage, like an artillery piece. Not like the Russian machine gun bear meme.
Indeed, not mounted ON the dogs, but drawn by them. Like horse drawn artillery. In this case, dog drawn machine guns.
yes and flying monkeys with grenades🙄
you should have seen the dogs with a 37mm canon mounted ;-)
@@johan4105 *Insert green-skinned evil witch here
Perhaps it is because I am Belgian myself, but i am often interested more by those quirky designs that did not make it, like that Liègoise rifle, than the victors.
Ian at Forgotten Weapons has done a video on that trials pattern rifle, if you aren't aware already.
I wish I could afford the books let alone some of the guns C&Rsenal uses.
Patreon allows us to afford the books. We borrow the guns.
C&Rsenal The borrowing of the guns I was aware of. Its good you’re propped up by the community so that we can enjoy and watch. In many cases this channel is probably the closest I’ll get to handling many of them.
@@tybushnell9819 If you'd like to handle some rare and authentic firearms, I've found there's two places you can do so, at gun shows, or WW1/WW2 reenactments if the owner is courteous and allows you to handle their firearms. Sometimes people will put out a table of rare and antique firearms (lugers, lebel rifles, berthiers, K98Ks, m1 carbines... everything) for people to look at and, when asked, touch.
GammaINC They don’t do a lot of reenacting where I’m from and even if they did it’s hard to find time to go. I do go to gun shows when I can but I tend to go with my father and we like not to travel to far.
@@Candrsenal
Please enable Persian subtitles in all your videos
Three episodes arc... And Othias in a bright pink shirt? Sign me up!
I'm surprised to see you commenting on something other than a RCR video lmao
I am all over the place!
34:55 Ah yes, the US government issue copper plated Abraham Lincoln commemorative universal bolt disassembly tool.
Ah yes, tho could forget the classic U.S.I.C.P.A.L.C.U.B.D.T. My dad still has his from basic training.
@@tomandkathycook8564 sounds like some acronym the DI would make you memorize and grill you when you mess it up lol
Once again C&Rsenal ruins my sleep pattern! Haha keep up the amazing content
I love history as much as I love the mechanics, that go into these weapons so I love that you are going so deep into the progression of these weapons. Keep up the good work.
For the record, the premier mode thingy is really neat. It spurs some good, live conversation.
After all that missing-the-deadline angst, the video drops early. Well, I'm dropping early, too. I'll watch in the AM, and I hope you can get a good night's sleep, too.
I've now watched the video. Alert is a good thing. And thank you, for what y'all do.
Fun stuff. As always, thanks for creating a quality video archive of the personal weapons of war.
As we are rapidly closing in to the end of the Great War, I would be interested in both your's and Mae's top 10 and Bottom 10 firearms of the conflict.
Craig L. Young I remember that they said a while back that they had a list of 135 guns that they intended to cover for the Great War.
Promise us you will upload the next episode in the morning next time. Love the channel.
I'm sure people have suggested this before but perhaps u should put a subtitle on screen for some of those hard to pronounce (espesially french) words.
Just got my shirt in the mail today! Keep up the great work, guys!
Been waiting for this one, thanks guys
Another great clip of Mae enjoying herself with a sweet smile after the fact.
Another great video. Looking forward to part II.
Got to watch it all...great episode....looking forward to 2 & 3.
I know it's years later, but I did order a book this year. One by a buddy of yours. Got two copies, one in each cover style. The purple one is what got me started, and the fact that the gray one was less popular meant I absolutely needed one of those too. Gotta have em all!
"Paul Mauser eye-incident" - well that's Mae's halloween costume sorted...
:-)
Have to comment twice this time around. I have good reason to expect another Gewehr 98 episode yes? At least you certainly make it seem like that will be the case throughout this one. Really hoping for round 2 of my favorite rifle, and that someday after the Great War you’ll get to my second favorite, the Swedish 96. Cheers on your great work as always!
What is sleep
I love this channel because of that reason. good for sleep, sweetest asmr for me.
Indeed, Just when I had given up on my first time trying to run a PC-98 Emulator, this shows up!.... :)
What is love?
It’s what I do when I watch these, eventually I’ll see all of it in about 2 weeks. I still love them though.
Phillip Block he’s saying that cause they uploaded this episode at like 11pm central time and then stayed up to watch it
The real meat of your episode is the amazing history you do keep doing your great work.
That's pretty detail information about this new rifle for me.
Mauser was amazing in dialing in nitro/smokeless cartridge design from the get-go. 1889 and they had todays 7,62X51 NATO- .308 Win. plus or minus a couple mm. The 7mm and 8mm X 57mm still work great.
Why is this stuff so damn interesting? I could Nerd Out on C&Rsenal content for hours. I don't even collect or own any historical pieces. It's just entertaining!
Is it the engineering? Is it the History? Is it in the Hopes we'll see Mae? At this point, I'm not sure; but the recipe.is working...
And thanks for the Book Review, I think this is totally something I would like to have in my Library.
A new pleasure! A new pleasure!
When you were talking about unusual funding, I had vision ofthe two of you being dressed as Bonnie and Clyde.....
Another awesome show!
It's awesome how you've by now reached the point of doing regular full hour+ episodes... all the time!
There's really always some more contextul unformation to fill these episodes and as a trained gymnasium (not sports related but protoacademic high school) history teacher I cant't help but love it to pieces!
I'm always so annoyed when people simpliefy or use short cuts on context and you're one of the most, let's put it like this because it is, academically minded topical shows available out there!
Many thanks for this bloody great show!
Best regards
Raoul G. Kunz
Hell yeah my favorite kind of bed time story!
Thank you for your work
Awesome work guys!
+1 on Mauser love, and it was interesting to see the differences between the 1889 Belgian and the Lowe-produced 1891 Argentine.
Once again: Excellent!
I got the two T-shirts I ordered yesterday. THANK YOU! Geoff Who notes "God save the King" in red of course.
Wood 🎉5 years later and this show is still the bee's knees ❤
Funny how you can see the cleaning rod sliding around from recoil during Mae’s firing segment.
Nice show! TY!
Cant wait for WW2, really want to see the Belgian 89/36
As a Belgian, I feel actually educated ^^. Thanks!
Well said !
excellent videos
That FN 1900 in the background...
I just sat my ex-dragoon down next to me for this biography about her papa.
These videos are very good
Best show on youtube 👍
Potatoes? These episodes are all meat, I've found no carbs in them yet. Thanks to the whole crew, I can't wait for part two and three.
You are so right about Vanderlinden's FN book.
Anthony Vanderlinden does great work, and he is a very nice guy.
That Vanderlinden book is very good! I have the one on pistols too!
I'm just gonna slip and slide everywhere on this guy.
Mae,2018
My shirts have arrived! P,S, Crozier looks adorable on my Xbox.
Wah-who!!! You taught me how to take the magazine out of my 1891 Argentine. Thanks
"Herchtal" x) The way you said it cracked me up :p
Love the show, friends. Keep up the good work. I am hoping to become a Patreon patron just as soon as I can. Which means no bad-mouthing the guns I like. ;-)
I can’t decide if that shirt is more “frat star Othias” or “Persian nightclub owner Othias”
Thank you for Covering off FN and Belgian Arms inturstary, This gun sound Like Australian Used on Lee-Enfield SMLE III Which was war gun Used in Korea 1950's
YES FINALLY THANK YOU OTHAIS!!!
Awesome shirt. Great episode
Great episode on this rifle I've seen mentioned a lot in Mauser overall history but not specific info. Just a further note when I tried to watch this on the main site it was blocked for some reason.
what i think makes it look outsized, the single stack mag sticking out with that spur on the front, the elongated receiver ring, the barrel band being so for up the barrel, and of course, the jacket.
People complain about the deap dive history lessons? That's why I watch this channel lol
Yeah, my 1891 Argentine Mauser bolt sucks to disassemble. Looking forward to South American Mauser videos.
FYI Liberty Tree Collectors has the old style 1891 Argentine clips, not the 1909 ones, for $14 for 3 clips
Got my shirts today. 👍 Thanks guys
Dang! I got to get up early....tomorow I will soak up the knowledge.
I have been waiting for this video for like 3 years. Lol
Big Fan of Mae !!
Question: how rare are the Hopkins and Allen 1914 contract Carbines? I'm looking at buying one for sale near me
That bolt is *almost* as simple as I used to think they all were, before I started watching Ian last year.
Please make a video about the M1893 Spanish Mauser. That rifle has a ton of history behind it, Paul Mauser even got a medal from the Spanish for it!
It's the best looking Mauser rifle in my opinion, thick wrist, half handguard and thick barrel. The M1893 served the Spaniards well in the Spanish American War against Krags and Springfield trapdoors, so good that the Yanks copied it in their '03. This rifle has a special place in my heart because the KKK forces used them against the Yanks in the Philippine-American War.
@Louis Sanderson You're talking about the Boer War, right? I know the 7mm Mauser trumps the Lee Enfield in terms of reload and flat trajectory.
KKK means? I thought it was the clan
Hopefully Othais can get his hands on a Serbian 1899 which I think is the closest model in 7mm to the 1893
@@brickproduction1815 Katipunan or Kataas-taasan, Kagalang-galangang, Katipunan ng mga Anak ng Bayan, hence, "KKK" founded in 1892. Filipino nationalists who fought the Spaniard colonialists. Later they got used/played by Uncle Sam to help defeat the Spaniards, and then they fought against the United States colonial project in the Philippines in the Filipino-American War, which proved far bloodier than the War of 1898 against Spain... Their defeat was so costly that the U.S. simply co-opted the elites and ruled through them and foreswore outright colonialism on the European model ever after...
0323 and I worked all day. Fuck it time to learn about a cool gun from the gun apostle
Man I love these old milsurps! Much more interesting than modern weapons
For a rifle to be 140+ years old and still function is a feat of engineering. The really did build things to last back then.
Was that shirt a Belgian secret weapon. Blinding the enemy during a bayonet charge?
Also loved the t shirt extras. Going to put the c&r sticker on my work laptop. Not sure what I am going to do with the Crozier hearts blueberries sticker.
Ive seen Ian's video on the Liegoise...damn that rifle was beautiful.
Looks like I got something to watch tonight
My favorite 7.65 x 53 was a Win 70. It was NIB until I got it as a birthday present that was 12 years older than me...
Lol i tried to watch this last night but I kept dozing off. Had to rewatch to make sure i actually retained some information.
1 hour 18 mins.
Me: 'This is where the fun begins.'
I wonder what Belgian shooting competitions were like at the time. Could be kind of cool recreating them with surplus guns.
Unfortunately I was not able to be awake when this was uploaded. I feel bad for this, but it's okay because I can just watch it now.
This gun kicks ass in the game Verdun. I love this gun. And you can't beat that look.
Edit
I have an old model 1893 mauser, and I can see some similarity to this design in my own. This Belgian one doesn't have the big claw extractor arm on the side of the bolt yet. I hope you talk about that if and when you get to the model 1893, other than that the receiver design looks pretty similar. The angled cut is there.
nice my fortnightly fix of engineering has arrived thank you guys
17:20 "governments didn't like spending money back then" ...'cause it was all denominated in gold, and thus very much fixed in quantity.
Ordered my shirt aug 29th, got it today. I think we swamped the shirt guy. Came with a neeto C&Rsenal sticker and a guinea pig sticker. Will do again next year.
Could we get a video on the gun room? Curious on what guns you have in the room and also curious if there is small details in the room that we miss in each episode.
39:48 Oh yeah love that song!
Just a question concerning the loading at 40:00: it looked not really that smooth, was that because of something worn or just because it was one of the first stripperclip designs?
Yes!! We finally get to see it!!! :)