History of WWI Primer 142: Siamese RS 121 Type 46 Documentary

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  • @Dawe360
    @Dawe360 3 года назад +185

    Fun fact there is actually a Buddhist shrine dedicated to king chulalongkorn in the north of Sweden. He came to visit in 1897 and a hundred years later they built a shrine to honor him. Been there a few times and it is a beautiful place.

    • @chooseyouhandle
      @chooseyouhandle 3 года назад +3

      It took them 100 years to build a shrine?

    • @bakerking5351
      @bakerking5351 3 года назад +10

      @@chooseyouhandle permits were hard to come by

    • @wasinpunti7918
      @wasinpunti7918 Год назад

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @austinm.9832
      @austinm.9832 Год назад +5

      ​@@chooseyouhandlenot many experienced buddhist shrine builders in europe

  • @Candrsenal
    @Candrsenal  3 года назад +162

    For anyone confused: The public schedule is now "locked in." There will be another full length episode in two weeks, and then two weeks after that, just like it has been for years. In one week the next trap episode drops like usual as well.
    I will say, the next big episode is going to be a special. It will be available "early" to Patrons next week.

    • @michaelmclaughlin4889
      @michaelmclaughlin4889 3 года назад +6

      Is it possibly the 1911?

    • @LukeBunyip
      @LukeBunyip 3 года назад +1

      @@michaelmclaughlin4889 Nah. Mae it's going to be special. 😜

    • @virusguy5611
      @virusguy5611 3 года назад +1

      Omg c and r are back yesssd

    • @planescaped
      @planescaped 3 года назад +1

      It's gonna be that Tokarev that's been hiding in the back is my guess.
      Or the start of the long-planned shotgun series.

    • @ketsuekikumori9145
      @ketsuekikumori9145 3 года назад

      Just out of curiosity, has the patron "beta testing" worked out? Assuming at all that this video had mistakes when it was originally released to patrons before being released to youtube.

  • @Khanclansith
    @Khanclansith 3 года назад +62

    Othias: "The most beautiful thing..."
    May: *he is talking about the rifle isn't he?*

  • @michaelconner9796
    @michaelconner9796 3 года назад +7

    I don't know how i went 31 years into my life without this channel... The knowledge is magnificent. This is what history class should have been.

  • @dr.donaldhurley2922
    @dr.donaldhurley2922 3 года назад +56

    Back in the dark ages, the origin of the "Siamese Mauser" was to allow budding gunsmiths an opportunity to rechamber to a fun cartridge like .45-70!

  • @andrewcomerford9411
    @andrewcomerford9411 3 года назад +29

    Brave man Othais, taking verbal pot-shots at the lady with the rifle.

    • @Tallus_ap_Mordren
      @Tallus_ap_Mordren 3 года назад +3

      Yep. She also knows where he sleeps, and where he keeps his ammo.

  • @Tadicuslegion78
    @Tadicuslegion78 3 года назад +118

    King: Now, shall Mr. Lingkong be winning this war he is fighting at present?
    Anna: No one knows really.
    King: Well, does he have enough guns and elephants for transporting things?
    Anna: I don't think they have elephants in America, your majesty.
    King: No elephants? No wonder he is not winning war!

    • @Mike-tw1pi
      @Mike-tw1pi 3 года назад +23

      True story.. Lincoln did in fact politely decline the King of Siam's offer of two elephants.

    • @31terikennedy
      @31terikennedy 3 года назад +2

      That's why they call Republicans elephants:D

    • @voiceofraisin3778
      @voiceofraisin3778 3 года назад +3

      @Ted Hubert Pagnanawon Crusio Elephant Bombards are useful but the elephant of surprise is better!

  • @Dswagger-D
    @Dswagger-D 3 года назад +98

    Othais: starts rattling of the name of the rifle
    Me: is this one of those animes the kids are talking about?

    • @mikepette4422
      @mikepette4422 3 года назад +2

      most likely cause i don't understand any of it

    • @davidbrennan660
      @davidbrennan660 3 года назад +1

      Not as worrying either.

    • @KriLL325783
      @KriLL325783 3 года назад +3

      You mean those chinese cartoons?

    • @csm5040
      @csm5040 3 года назад

      @@KriLL325783 🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @Aldamiras
    @Aldamiras Год назад +5

    Years ago I had to take my Type 46 to a Thai restaurant to get them to translate the writing/markings on it. They were not only able to translate the rifle's serial number but they ID'd the other markings on it as well, incl. the crest. It was an 8x52r caliber which at the time I owned it could only be made from 7.62x54r brass and that meant about $65.00 a box (early '90's). The rifle shot 'decently' with that ammo, not well enough for me to keep it.

  • @fg42t2
    @fg42t2 3 года назад +8

    I once owned a type 38 carbine in 7.7 Japanese. It was in the 1940 Siamese Rifle test trials. It had several unique features----the only markings were the serial # and a small triangle on the chamber, The rear sight was on a curved ramp, the front sight was on a widened bridge with squared ears with a squared holes. the barrel had 3 smaller blocks to hold a type 30 Bayonet at the proper length for mounting. The butt stock had a Mauser style sling slot cut in it. I sold it to Fred Honeycutt any years ago . The last time I saw him he said he still had it and no he didn't want to sell it back to me. Bob Benson

  • @row7820
    @row7820 3 года назад +9

    Amazing... As an American with Thai Heritage I would love to have one of these!

  • @jackandersen1262
    @jackandersen1262 3 года назад +7

    Always love videos like this and the Berdan (to name a few) that tell about the Country’s history.

  • @lonewolfy5697
    @lonewolfy5697 3 года назад +3

    Fantastic animation, seeing the improvement over the years is worth my Patreon.

  • @davidhansen5067
    @davidhansen5067 2 года назад +4

    I like the touch of Mae attempting to close the bolt on an empty chamber, just to prove that the magazine hold-open does, in fact, work, even after a hundred years.

  • @donmears4090
    @donmears4090 3 года назад +3

    I've been a subscriber for 18 months and have come to enjoy learning about the military firearms of WW1. One of my favorite parts of each episode is when you both speak about the firearm and Mae's impression of it. Your playful banter makes me smile. An episode dealing with the problems and solutions reloading ammo for some of firearms would be interesting to me, nothing too technical just general information.

  • @dondavis2907
    @dondavis2907 2 года назад +2

    You know the world is right when after firing the rifle, Mae gives that satisfied sigh/smile!

  • @Grunge4ever1993
    @Grunge4ever1993 3 года назад +17

    See? This is why I love y'all so much. I had never even heard of this beautiful rifle before this video, and am now going down a rabbit hole of reading about the history of Siam/Thailand, 😂😂😂.
    Also, thanks to you guys, I bought a Vetterli M1870/87/15 along with my own copy of the book "The Italian Vetterli Rifle," and bought a Winchester 1907 when I went to the gun store to pick up a Gen4 Glock 20 10mm Automatic, 😂😂😂😂.

  • @jtilton5
    @jtilton5 3 года назад +15

    Saw a bunch of these at the Thai Air Force Museum in the display for the Thai-French war.

    • @davidegaleotti94
      @davidegaleotti94 3 года назад +1

      Steal them while you can

    • @jtilton5
      @jtilton5 3 года назад +4

      @@davidegaleotti94 Yeah, I really don't want to have a stay in The Bangkok Hilton... Especially with 9000 new covid cases in Bangkok a day.

    • @davidegaleotti94
      @davidegaleotti94 3 года назад +2

      @@jtilton5 I get that :/
      I wonder what the Thai museum calls them, tho, considering the confusion on the designation.

    • @jtilton5
      @jtilton5 3 года назад +4

      @@davidegaleotti94 When I first saw them I mistook them for Arisaka rifles, (most of the Thai planes in the museum from this time period were of Japanese manufacture also.) It was only through some research I found out what they were. Though I haven't been back since then so I don't know the specifics of the rifles on display.

    • @demonprinces17
      @demonprinces17 3 года назад +1

      @@jtilton5 don't think it's covid you have to worry about in there

  • @tmack11
    @tmack11 3 года назад +2

    It wasn't that long ago this channel only had 20k subs. You love you see it!

  • @jeffbangle4710
    @jeffbangle4710 3 года назад +29

    Wait a sec...War Were Declared, Siamese troops actually saw service, but no patented "War Were Declared" video clip?

  • @praphakornjairak5765
    @praphakornjairak5765 3 года назад +6

    I'am from Thailand.I love Siamese gun

  • @staghounds
    @staghounds 3 года назад +1

    Once again, a rifle sheds light on obscure and complicated history . Thank you!

  • @jonathanhudak2059
    @jonathanhudak2059 3 года назад +2

    Very cool and elegant rifles, underappreciated. I have one in the 8x52R chambering and like it a lot. Thanks for this wonderful video on these fascinating rifles!

  • @williammagoffin9324
    @williammagoffin9324 3 года назад +1

    Wow, I'm subscribed and belled and I never saw this in my feed. I guess I get a "new" episode while you folks are busy catching up after the recent stuff.

  • @johnkilcer
    @johnkilcer 3 года назад +15

    Grug has one. Grug like... much fun.

  • @kevinrobinson5654
    @kevinrobinson5654 3 года назад +57

    Fun fact that seems to have been deleted from contemporary history books: the original Siamese conjoined twins, Chang and Eng Bunker, got rich doing 'freak show' tours. They invested their wealth in a plantation and slaves in the Carolinas where they settled down, married, and had children. Their children fought in the Civil War on the side of the Confederacy.

    • @Tippet76
      @Tippet76 3 года назад

      Which history books are you saying they were deleted from?

    • @hailexiao2770
      @hailexiao2770 3 года назад +6

      @@Tippet76 The ones written by "underrated" contrarian edgelords, of course

    • @danielkorladis7869
      @danielkorladis7869 2 года назад +1

      well that sucks

  • @ryanstebbins3102
    @ryanstebbins3102 3 года назад +1

    I'm really happy you guys went into such detail with these rifles. There are very few good resources on these mausers.

  • @mistermurtad2831
    @mistermurtad2831 3 года назад +18

    I wouldn't want to be the elephant drive when they fire the cannon.

  • @TONYCGG
    @TONYCGG 3 года назад

    Both of info about the gun and extra Thai history are so valuable to hear.
    Thank you so much

  • @Enetso
    @Enetso 3 года назад +1

    Always love seeing guns I've never heard of before. Great work as always!

  • @comiketiger
    @comiketiger 3 года назад +1

    Interesting slice of gun history and very well done as usual. Enjoyed this a great deal.
    God bless all here.

  • @rainbow2710
    @rainbow2710 3 года назад

    Wow!! Finally!! Been waiting for a feature on the Siamese! Thanks!

  • @titaniumwo1f390
    @titaniumwo1f390 3 года назад +8

    Its semi-official name was "รัตนโกสินทร์ ศักราศ ๑๒๑" (based on ร.ศ. ๑๒๑ mark) and It should be pronounced like "Rat-ta-na-kho-sin Sak-ka-raj Nueang Song Nueang" (if you pronounce Thai number as an individual number), which Othais managed to correctly pronounce the "รัตนโกสินทร์" part.
    PS: its official name according to Royal Thai Army (RTA) is "ปืนเล็กยาว แบบ 46", which can be translate to "long rifle, model 46", and number 46 came from a year it was adopted in Buddhist Era 2446 (1903). Also, its western name according to RTA is Siamese M1903.

  • @benjaminforman1616
    @benjaminforman1616 3 года назад

    Of course you guys post the long awaited new video when I'm sleeping. I dont even know how! You guys are basicly in the same state!

  • @LoneWolf051
    @LoneWolf051 3 года назад +21

    lets see Ian do a mud test with this, followed by Othias having a sudden panic attack

    • @LadyAnuB
      @LadyAnuB 3 года назад

      😅

    • @donjones4719
      @donjones4719 3 года назад +4

      Only if Ian "forgets" to close the dust cover.

    • @SpaceCowboyfromNJ
      @SpaceCowboyfromNJ 3 года назад +2

      @@donjones4719 Honestly it might still pass. If I remember correctly the K98 they tested passed even without a dust cover. So a 98 Mauser action with an addition of an intergraded dust cover I would expect to pass even if that dust cover was left open.

  • @danielkorladis7869
    @danielkorladis7869 2 года назад +2

    That's wild that the deal was with Mitsui. Used to see their ships and containers at the port here all the time growing up.
    Also clever of Siam/Thailand to contract with Mauser for the design but have them manufactured in Japan to keep from drawing too much attention in Europe.

  • @errolreeves5296
    @errolreeves5296 3 года назад +2

    It was interesting to hear about this rifle after the first world war. Looking forward to your episodes when you get outside of the great war.

  • @Lomi311
    @Lomi311 Месяц назад

    The combination of deep flush magazine and half length hand guard give this rifle a fat belly skinny front profile that I just love.

  • @ecothunderbolt257
    @ecothunderbolt257 3 года назад +14

    Comments equal support. Let's lift em up boys!

  • @whiterice.
    @whiterice. 3 года назад +47

    A bit of help with your pronounciation there. Ra-ta-na-ko-sin-sok nueng-roi-yi-sib-ed. I'll keep em coming as I watch through. All this might sound like nitpicking, but getting it right helps others along the line.
    4:48 The reigning dynasty then and now is actually the Chakri dynasty, with Rattanakosinsok being the total reigning period of the dynasty. That type of year counting has almost completely fallen out of use in modern times. Current year is ร.ศ. 226.
    30:27 Pronounced Bo-worn-det by locals, he later led a failed royalist rebellion in 1933 against the constitution monarchy in an attempt to return it to an absolute monarchy. In all honesty, there's been more coups here than I can keep track of over the years. Have fun with that.
    46:18 The crest in the picture shown says แบบ๔๗/๖๖. The direct translation of แบบ is type, so that would be the Type 47/66.
    46:49 Pronounced Plaak Pi-bun-song-kram.

    • @Simon_Nonymous
      @Simon_Nonymous 3 года назад +5

      It's not nitpicking - it's always useful to be told how things are pronounced from people who know, so we can say it correctly. And that's from an Englishman, old boy!

    • @rrich52806
      @rrich52806 3 года назад +1

      Karen

    • @hermatred572
      @hermatred572 3 года назад

      @@rrich52806 lee

    • @rrich52806
      @rrich52806 3 года назад

      @@hermatred572 Karen! Is that really you. Missed you

  • @cameo25000
    @cameo25000 3 года назад +1

    Another good show. Thanks.

  • @Ntmoffi
    @Ntmoffi 3 года назад +10

    I remember seeing one of these at a gun show and thinking how weird it was.

  • @42pyroboy
    @42pyroboy 3 года назад

    There is a such a wealth of info in these videos! Thank you guys for the hard work!

  • @jameskazd9951
    @jameskazd9951 3 года назад

    this is a really cool mix of arisaka and mauser. one of the coolest bolt guns i have seen yet

  • @SearTrip
    @SearTrip 3 года назад +30

    I don’t like this video because it shows how much my RS121 (as I shall call it from now on) has been screwed with. I felt the algorithm needed to know that.

    • @TheRealColBosch
      @TheRealColBosch 3 года назад +2

      Yeah, I had one of these that someone previous jerkwad had butchered. I also had a gorgeous example that was unmolested, and looked even better than the one in this video.

    • @SpaceCowboyfromNJ
      @SpaceCowboyfromNJ 3 года назад +1

      In what way was it screwed with? Depending on what was done, it's possible it was done in some sort of official capacity.

  • @theminnesotan592
    @theminnesotan592 3 года назад +1

    This is my favorite series!

  • @kregchrist2826
    @kregchrist2826 3 года назад

    all your hard work is very much appreciated.

  • @danieltaylor5231
    @danieltaylor5231 3 года назад

    Thanks for all the research work Maurice.

  • @CJL999
    @CJL999 3 года назад

    I didn't know Othais is so good at history narration! As a Thai guy, I approved

  • @richardsveum8452
    @richardsveum8452 3 года назад

    I fired one of these converted to 45-70 years ago. Lots of fun. and really smooth.

  • @jsma9999
    @jsma9999 3 года назад +1

    Thank you to Ohas for this gun, out left Grandstand (Far Left Field), Great Film

  • @AKS-74U
    @AKS-74U 3 года назад

    I've been waiting a LONG time for this episode.

  • @attanondk651
    @attanondk651 3 года назад +1

    WOW is best rifle , watching from Thailand .

  • @jeanbaptistevallee4500
    @jeanbaptistevallee4500 3 года назад +1

    I bought mine from an add in "Shotgun News" sometime in the 1970`s. No ffl required as ammunition was "not available".
    I`d of tracked down the Austrian round if I had known it would have worked!

  • @connorgormly3236
    @connorgormly3236 3 года назад

    A great channel and so much content I’m never bored

  • @itatane
    @itatane 3 года назад +7

    Gorgeous looking Mauser, almost as nice looking as the Persian model. Always wanted one, never had a chance to pick one up. Gun shows around here are terrible. Always the same vendors selling the same stuff (which never seems to sell anyway) at the same inflated prices.

  • @brydengudbranson2728
    @brydengudbranson2728 3 года назад +2

    Thank you

  • @richardcuneo1727
    @richardcuneo1727 3 года назад +2

    "Tune in this week for the return of The All Mauser Channel!" Jk, love the show

  • @davidkatz1503
    @davidkatz1503 3 года назад

    I always support by buying merch bc it’s not enough to love this show, I have to subject everyone else to it as well

  • @niklasaskham4208
    @niklasaskham4208 3 года назад

    Thanks Mae and Othais

  • @Solid-Shizzard
    @Solid-Shizzard 3 года назад

    I see C&R video, I make a fresh pot of coffee amd clear my desk.
    I am a simple man who enjoys simple things

  • @cheesenoodles8316
    @cheesenoodles8316 3 года назад

    Tonight, perfect timing. Excellent.

  • @listingsempty8200
    @listingsempty8200 2 года назад

    Magnificent history class. Thank you

  • @SlavicCelery
    @SlavicCelery 3 года назад +1

    Budda's nips on that statue are bold indeed. They're nearly a big as a rivet from the ill fated titanic.

  • @JohnSmith-bf1sq
    @JohnSmith-bf1sq 3 года назад

    Primer!!!! So excited when i saw it.

  • @tortuga4874
    @tortuga4874 3 года назад

    Ty very much for making a video on this not very well known rifle. Also hey, that pronunciation was great man!

  • @cptreech
    @cptreech 3 года назад +13

    "This rifle normally uses a stripper clip...So it's single loading for me" And that's the reason the Mauser style magazine is better (for the collector, 100 years later) than any using an en bloc clip

  • @tjo4087
    @tjo4087 3 года назад

    May and othias the dynamic duo!

  • @rmod42
    @rmod42 3 года назад +3

    I'm commenting Mae! I'm commenting!

  • @vaclavholek4497
    @vaclavholek4497 3 года назад

    Othais, thank you for doing your duty!

  • @yuibot5998
    @yuibot5998 3 года назад

    My dad has one. He paid 15 dollars decades ago and had it converted to 30 40 Krag which was common to do back then since there weren't even reloading dies or components for the rifle at the time.

  • @tomalexander4327
    @tomalexander4327 3 года назад

    These are such great episodes

  • @impliedtomato8760
    @impliedtomato8760 3 года назад +9

    I didn't realize how many different types of the same gun there were

    • @SpaceCowboyfromNJ
      @SpaceCowboyfromNJ 3 года назад +1

      If you really think about it, that is quite common for military firearms just look at the US military. You have the M16, M16A1, M16A2, M16A3, M16A4, M4, M4A1, and probably a dozen other variants in service that I am not thinking of.

    • @baker90338
      @baker90338 3 года назад

      @@SpaceCowboyfromNJ most of the m16 variants are carbines and different optics mounting attempts (mostly unsuccessful seeing as the builds had no generalization when it came to rails until the m4, and the after market for such options were small)

    • @WhenDoesTheVideoActuallyStart
      @WhenDoesTheVideoActuallyStart Год назад

      ​@@baker90338Nonsense. From the original prototype to the current rifle almost all components had to be redesigned (Sometimes twice) for greater strength and durability. The weight of the rifle also increased massively.

  • @smokeytokyo4553
    @smokeytokyo4553 3 года назад

    Awesome episode as always

  • @dino2gnt
    @dino2gnt 3 года назад +14

    We are Siamese if you please
    We are Siamese if you don't please
    We are former residents of Siam
    There are no finer guns than we am
    We are Siamese with very dainty sights
    Please observing fights over our dainty sights
    Now we lookin' over our new domicile
    If we like we stay for maybe quite a while
    (The Algorithm made me do it)

    • @kevinsullivan3448
      @kevinsullivan3448 3 года назад +1

      Good on the Algorithm for doing so. Cats shouldn't get all the attentions when singing.

    • @genericpersonx333
      @genericpersonx333 3 года назад +2

      Already can hear Disney lawyers trying to figure out how to get at this one.

  • @briankerr4512
    @briankerr4512 3 года назад

    one of the best programs on the inter weebs

  • @Absaalookemensch
    @Absaalookemensch 3 года назад

    We had a couple of these. They converted into excellent 45-70s.

  • @phanakrontv6475
    @phanakrontv6475 Год назад +2

    ๐ ศูนย์ = 0
    ๑ หนึ่ง = 1
    ๒ สอง = 2
    ๓ สาม = 3
    ๔ สี่ = 4
    ๕ ห้า = 5
    ๖ หก = 6
    ๗ เจ็ด = 7
    ๘ แปด = 8
    ๙ เก้า = 9

  • @g.55centaurosimp18
    @g.55centaurosimp18 3 года назад +2

    This gun looks slick.

  • @alancarr3381
    @alancarr3381 2 года назад

    Thanks for the video.

  • @cannonfodder4376
    @cannonfodder4376 3 года назад +1

    44:26 King plans on transitioning to a Constitutional Monarchy, *gets one* - *Rolls with it like a boss*

  • @TerryDowne
    @TerryDowne 3 года назад +1

    Darn, I was hoping for a tune from "The King and I" as background music in the shooting segment.

  • @Mangowaffle
    @Mangowaffle Год назад

    Thanks for reminding me to comment Mae!

  • @FrAn-tm7ht
    @FrAn-tm7ht 3 года назад

    Great video, as always.

  • @314299
    @314299 3 года назад

    This episode makes me want to go dig out my own Siamese Mauser to have a fresh look at it and perhaps make up some ammo for it.

  • @HandFromCoffin
    @HandFromCoffin 3 года назад +1

    Strange, as long as I've watched this I've never had confirmation these 2 are a couple. I mean, I suspected and figured they where.. but never actually heard them say anything about being together. Confirmed.

  • @Mildcat743
    @Mildcat743 3 года назад +6

    Obligatory engagement comment. Hopefully things start faring better now that you shouldn't have to take down and re-release anymore.

  • @ZGryphon
    @ZGryphon 3 года назад +2

    "The crème de la crème of the chess world in a show with everything but Yul Brynner."

  • @SirSaladhead
    @SirSaladhead 3 года назад

    That's a beautiful and practical mud cover (for out of combat mud protection), wonder why no other major power picked up on it.

  • @jimludovici8427
    @jimludovici8427 3 года назад +1

    I have one of these that were reworked to the 8x52R Siamese cartridge, love to shoot it, but making the brass is a pain.

  • @a-1tetropilovstava822
    @a-1tetropilovstava822 3 года назад

    For the people who wonder what background music is.
    it is Siamesische Wachtparade.

  • @whatnowstinky
    @whatnowstinky 3 года назад +1

    thank you Othias, your quick comment about the Thai forces serving under the Japanese finally answers my question of how there were enough firearms left in Thailand to surplus (as opposed to being taken and redistributed by the jaoanese)
    for my next stupid question... What load bearing equipment did the Wild Tiger Corp use with thier Sht LE's?

  • @kornaktanker7633
    @kornaktanker7633 3 года назад +1

    that bolt just sounds so good, proper clonk.

  • @donjones4719
    @donjones4719 3 года назад

    The sliding dust cover looks less prone to breakage than the bolt-integrated one on the later Mauser. The latter is moving with every shot and looks like it could snag on a coat or something.

    • @SpaceCowboyfromNJ
      @SpaceCowboyfromNJ 3 года назад +1

      The Siamese Mauser one does have a potential weakness, and that is if the push tab breaks. I do have one Type 46/66 that at some point the tab snapped push in half. That said considering just about every Siamese Mauser that hasn't been sporterized sill has the dust cover and that one I own is the only one I have seen with a broken tab it can't be that bad.

  • @jameskazd9951
    @jameskazd9951 3 года назад

    YAAAY, new episode

  • @thesunsetdriver
    @thesunsetdriver 3 года назад +12

    Alright, I can go to bed early!
    Phone: RUclips Beep
    GODDAMNIT!!!!!

  • @linus11vf1j
    @linus11vf1j 3 года назад

    I would like to point out that despite the dust cover being nice, it is a set of manufacturing conditions that will slow down rifle production and increase its cost.
    It's an extra 2 cuts on the receiver for the rails, and a nub cut for the indentation.
    It's an extra stamping process for the cover itself. On something like the Siamese we see it looks like they even added a nice finger lip and handle. Which is an extrusion process, AND a weld point (manual welding, we don't got robots yet).
    That's a lot of extra machinery to add to rifles during the war. Before or after the war, it is definitely something you could tool up for. But at a time of "oh shoot we're in a dirty muddy war, NEED RIFLES YESTERDAY!" You can't manage that without halting production for at least a few months. Which is a little more than devastating during a conflict.
    As compared to what was sent out:
    leather/canvas is already in production, could take a sheet, or even scraps from uniform production.
    get 1 worker to cut the shapes
    get another 3 to sew 1 of each strap from surplus belt production.
    and you have adequate mud protection. It doesn't open the rifle quickly in a surprise, but doctrinally, you can sorta mitigate it. Use it fully during march (as shown in the photos), and hang the cover drape style over your actions when the rifle is standing up during combat/sentry duty/rifle teepees. You can easily flip the draped cover off as fast as the metal dust covers in that setup. So as really awesome as the metal dust cover is, at the time of its requirement. The cloth one is the best possible.

    • @SpaceCowboyfromNJ
      @SpaceCowboyfromNJ 3 года назад

      I am sorry but a cloth dust cover that's not secured to the rifle is pointless. It's not going to stay draped over the receiver for combat or sentry duty. If you are moving around it's not going to fall off unless you are being really careful to ensure it doesn't. More importantly when you don't really need the dust cover when you are standing still since the rifle is at minimal risk at getting dirty. The risk comes from moving quickly and crawling around taking cover etc... large amounts of dirt and debris risk getting into the rifle.
      As to machining time/effort I'll point to the Japanese during WWII who continued to cutting the rails for the dust covers even after they massively simplified everything else. The bigger issue by far trying to retroactively add a future that the rifle was never intended to have that design. Any rifle that had incorporated that feature from it's inception would more then likely have kept it until things got extremely desperate, which by that point if they were having to delete that feature, for all intents and purposes the war would already have been lost like the with the Type 99 during WWII

  • @vandor1976
    @vandor1976 3 года назад

    This is a support comment. Great video as usual !

  • @emmanuelmonge6965
    @emmanuelmonge6965 3 года назад

    13:30
    dude, you just blew my whole mind. SHIPPING!

  • @wyattgunsallus131
    @wyattgunsallus131 3 года назад +10

    First gun ever I bought and sold at a profit after finding the missing parts