History Primer 170: US Remington No.3 Documentary
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- C&Rsenal presents its Primer series where we delve into the story of this classic firearm. Complete with history, function, and live fire demonstration.
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Additional reading:
The Breechloading Shotgun 1860 - 1940
Joseph T. Vorisek
History of Remington Firearms
Roy Marcot
Ordnance Supply Manual (1904)
George Lahrer
Annual report of the Philippine Commissione Part 1
1899/900 (acutially post 1901)
Report of the Philippine Commison to the Secretary of War (1904)
Jungle Patrol, the Story of the Philippine Constabulary (1901-1936)
Victor Hurley
Reporting 1902
Sydney Adamsom in Leslies Weekly
The Philippine Army, 1935-1942
By Ricardo Trota Jose
Combat Shotguns
Bruce N. Canfield
Remington Society of America Journal, 4th Quarter 1996
Remshots - Remington Model 1893 Single Barrel Shotgun - No.3
Remington Society of America Journal, 2nd Quarter 1994
Rem-Shots
Remington Society of America Journal, 4th Quarter 2007
RemShots - Mike Strietbeck
Ammunition data thanks to DrakeGmbH
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Animations by Bruno!
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Just to be clear:
The "Shotgun Series" is still on hold for lack of time and funding as YT has severely curtailed channel growth.
Also that was always going to be about repeating, magazine shotguns.
This is a unique martial shotgun in line with our usual Primer topics. Just like the Winchester 97 and Remington 10.
It's okay Othaias I still love you, May's alright too I guess.
awwww
I know you're hiding that burgess in your back pocket
Whatever you make I will watch. Loved It’s a Trap btw.
Looking forward to it!
"You're not prepared. You're just walk- you're hangin' out. It's Tuesday. All the sudden all hell breaks loose. Homie's already dead before you know what's going on!"
This and the Duck Hunt tangent are why I love Maeversations.
The magic of Ballistol to lubricate the hand trap in the field! Tell me more! Seriously, can we get a Ballistol episode, possibly a supercut of such snippets?!
Not gonna lie id watch a full episode on the history of ballistol
A Ballistol history special would be great! Or even a special on the history of maintaining guns in the military in general (boiling water, cleaning rods vs pull-throughs, allegedly peeing down the barrel, etc.)
I would definitely watch that!!! It’s the WD-40 of firearms!!! Works on anything!!! Black powder check, corrosive primers check, any other gun check… oh and if your short it emulsify depth water so you can make “moose milk by diluting it.
What else do you need???
@@50TNCSA same here, it would be fascinating and could get around the FDA rules because it would be the historical context of where it came from.
@@danielcurtis1434 plus it’s food safe as it’s still used in industry to lubricate food processing machines, and good for wood and leather as well… I use it on my flintlocks and re-enacting gear…
My Wife doesn’t watch your videos, but then again she doesn’t watch ANY videos. She listens to all the videos I watch while she crochets! Every now and again, she’ll have me pause so she can ask a question, so she IS listening…
"...chosen for being just bad enough, yet still effective..."
*ELBONIA HAS ENTERED THE CHAT*
Behind my bedroom door, an unidentified antique shotgun has sat for a decade, gathering dust. A contained within a old leather scabbard with cross body straps. I had never seen a lever on the side of a shotgun like this and I assumed it was broken.
Today I found this video and have finally identified the shotgun. I even learned about the cocking mechanism.
This has made my day. Thank you.
I have read that one of the top priority items for the submarines that were taking supplies to the Philippine guerillas in the early part of World War 2 were shotgun shells. I always wondered why. Now I know why, thank you for what you do.
The recent videos cover so much Philippine history. As a filipino it is greatly appreciated and provides information for my own academic research. Thank you to the entire C&Rsenal team!
Your schedule is so spaced out that it's always a pleasant surprise to see a new video. Keep up the good work.
Boy I sure do love engagement with my favorite long firearm videos
Sure does make one pleased!
I picked up one of these cheap at a gun show many many years ago, I think I've ran a dozen rounds through it. Mine doesn't like to stay locked shut, and it doesn't strike very hard. Haven't committed to getting it running better. Still cool you guys made the video! Excited to watch!
OMG yes!! Finally another episode of the greatest small arms series. I discovered your channel late so i got to bing about 165 episodes and watch the rest as they get posted. Hell i even go back time to time to re-watch episodes. I love you guys
Edit: watching the review at the end. Othias mentioned its possible to fan the shotgun. Put the Alofs shotgun mag on one!
Can't put the Alofs magazine on this gun, as it has no automatic EJECTOR.
The Alofs would always double-feed on an empty case because of that.
The Alofs would probably work on a Remington Model 9 tho, that one DOES have an auto ejector and not just an auto extractor like the Model 3.
@@44R0Ndin that would be ideal, steampunk af 😂
Great episode, guys! I have an old, non-operable No.3 that was passed down to me from my great-grandfather. I knew what it was, but never knew anything about it.
That two-handed hand-trap polearm is amazing.
Another interesting note is that if the barrels were shortened post production, the chokes would be gone and it would be cylinder bore.
I loved the sound of the brass case being extracted from the breech.
It's hammer time. Concealed Hammer time
The sound of the fully metallic black powder cartridges going into and out of the chamber is so oddly satisfying.
Interesting. I own the companion 1894 double Damascus barrel model bought when I was 14 years old for $15. I handloaded black powder shells and used it Pigeon hunting. There was another 1894 Remington double there for $35 in perfect condition (mine was worn) with pretty wood and light engraving. I really wanted it, but $35 was out of my price range.
I really in joy this video but all your videos are great
It seems like these guns featured prominently in the Philippine guerilla resistance against the Japanese in WWII.
I’d be interested to see whether the Filipinos were ready to use the Richardson because they already knew tactics with single shot shotguns.
My great grandpa had an even cheaper clone of this shotgun, and it got passed along to my hands, and yeah that thing got ran hard in its heyday. That particular one was ran over when it fell off of his tractor as he was driving along, but he nailed the butt stock back together and hammered the barrel to be "more-or-less" straight and continued using it, because he was a farmer and wasn't about to throw away what little money he had on a replacement if he didn't absolutely need to. It still shoots, surprisingly. Every single shot goes left, and it's incredibly wobbly, and I was and still am a bit skeptical to shoot it because of how ratty it is, but it sends 20ga birdshot in "more-or-less" the direction that it's pointed.
Thanks for making this episode, it was a great look into an often overlooked part of history!
Another lovely informational and educational production. Wonderful!
Learning about your two homelands (the Philippines and the US) from a documentary about an obscure break action single shotgun is a real treat
Love this episode... while I don't have, nor have ever seen one of these, I do own a 20 ga. Stevens similar to the one in the ALOFS episode... as well as several other old single shot shotguns...
Back in the mid 60s my Dad traded an old Stromberg-Carlson TV set for one of these and a Mark III Lee-Enfield. I still have both. All we knew about the No.3 was that it was made before 1903. Very informative! Thank you. I hunted with it when I was young. Heavy loads would stomp the shoulder.
Hello, I'm Othias, and _this..._
is going to be a fascinating video, regardless of what the steaming social media masses think.
You haven't done a boring one yet. 👍
From the No 3 to Pederson designs. Gun history is very diverse. Glad to send you funds each month. Keep up the good work.
Ahhhh, the sound of that brass being removed, amazing
As a Hunt: Showdown player, I know that gun as the “Romero”
Thank you Ballistol!
I love the elegance in simplicity of this thing, intuitive in it's function. It's about as simple as a door; tube on stock, hinge to get to the back of tube where you stuff the splodey thingies
My grandfather had an old H&R single barrel, a Topper, I think they called it? Basically the same thing as the Remington No.3. I don't know what I was thinking? I sold it years ago. Would love to find another one. This is why, I like you guys so much? You learn a lot, you're entertaining and sometimes comical? I liked the video you all did with "British Muzzleloaders" Great collaboration.
Just curious, what's with all the question marks? If you mean what you say, use periods.
If you're asking a question, use question marks.
If you're not doing either one, well, what ARE you doing then? The correct punctuation for those weird situations is almost on a case-by-case basis to be honest, so be specific.
I love these old break actions.
That was a pleasant surprise I didn’t think I was interested in this gun but it had a fascinating back story to it that I really enjoyed
I was born in '02 and I played duck hunt in my mother's Nintendo from when she was a kid, game kicks ass.
Shotgun! Ive been waiting eagerly ever since you began teasing this. I remember just a few years ago, every pawn shop and flea market was full of these old single shots for not very much money. Now they cost as much as newer stuff and are far more rare.
I love these sporting firearms history and development.
LOL im so happy you took the time to clean that gun before you filmed this episode 😃sorry love the show please don't get mad
"Just bad enough, and yet still effective".
Can't tell you how much of my life can be described in that way.
Love a good shotgun video.
Holy crap!!! So that's what I have inherited from my father's side of the family. A Rem mod 3 in 16 gauge. Still works like a champ.
A combat ... single shot break action? This I have to see.
A more elegant weapon, for a more civilized age.
Back in the day when you didn't miss, sonny! Kids these centuries.....BAH!
Still more effective than every firearm ever invented in the history of mankind up to 1870.
And single action
I also use Ballistol for that thing the FDA says you can’t say and it works wonders! I’m floored by how perfect a product this stuff is!
Finally, caught up with the current episode of this show and reprocussion. I was more than 25 episodes behind on primer i think it was 142 or something and colt walker ep 3 for reprocussion. It took two months and a mad wife to catch up, but it was worth it.
Gotta say i really love the in depth detailed analysis on the revolver lockworks shown frequently now and would like more revolver primers.
Thanks for all the hard work Team c&rsenal
The smoke from black powder, it likes to linger, once got roped into helping at an English Civil War event. By time the 12 guys each side of that pike block had discharged their muskets 3 times each, no one is seeing much beyond the end of those pikes!
I've never heard of a Remington No 3, but with a name like that it must be significant.
Always a treat and a learning opportunity! Thanks for yet another lesson lost to history!
"By the way I cut my hand . . ."; did you spray Ballistol on that, too? When it was issued to German troops, it was as a light-duty first aid for cuts and scrapes, in addition to its use on lock, stock & barrel. I looked on Amazon, and see current versions of Ballistol for sporting goods, for first aid, and to keep your pet's fur coat smooth and glossy.
I'm definitely excited for more hand trap videos.
A tip on mounting a shotgun. Human faces are distinctly pointy. As a result if you rotate your head against the stock to bring you nose closer to the stock you will move your eye into the centerline of the barrel. The reason the gun shot to the left is not a fault of the gun, it shot left because your mount and you had your face squared up with your right eye offset left of the barrel centerline. If you want to see this in action find a friend with a Sporting O/U setup with a mid bead sight system you can see the result as you roll your face against the stock. Because you will see that the alignment between the mid and front beads is dependent on the position of your face.
In this land of dopey dreams
Lovely peaceful Philippines
Where the Boloman is hiking night and day
Those full brass shells, so clean.
Really enjoyable episode including the history of what was happening in the Philippines at the time. It started our own conversation, what if Congress did approve the Philippines as a US territory and how that would have changed world history.
I am surprised the Filipino constabuulary did not get the 73 Springfield Trapdoor.
Wanted to ensure lack of range.
Спасибо за видео, очень интересно.
Great topic choice
Pleasantly surprised. I'd be 110% up for more interesting shotguns
1:25 To be honest, I'm more excited for the WWI sniper rifle series I heard talked about years ago. Whatever happened to that SMLE Galilean sight that cost as much as a house? Where's Ian wearing a red beret with a scope WW1 rifle telling us patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter?
We produce a documentary every other week. So, generously, we have maybe a surplus of 5 hours every 2 weeks to work on macro projects.
That's why complicated episodes with extra fiddly bits like having to make reproduction replacements of already cracking lenses from $7,000 sights can take well over a year to organize.
@@Candrsenal I understand you are very busy and Project Lightening was a trial to go through, but I've heard murmurs of a scoped WWI rifle series and I don't know if that still is your plan and that I should be hyped for it, or if it's just an idea you had and you aren't really committed to it.
Presently we have some loan offers, BUT
In order to do that special we will need:
1. Secure a lens set for the Gallilean that won't just break
2. Send Mae for long range shooting training
3. Develop match loads for each rifle to be demonstrated
4. Take in loans of the rifles with working glass, becoming financially responsible for said scopes which are scarily likely to break internally at random.
This was a LOT easier when the show's budget was nearly 30% bigger.
But the YT crush has severely hobbled us. We're shrinking, not growing right now.
@@Candrsenal Thank you for keeping me informed, I will keep my expectations tempered with this information.
@@Candrsenal That's terrible to hear. I wish you all the best.
Love that satisfying grin she gets after firing some of these firearms. Great presentation.
Let me do some looking I had most of the parts to one of these I found when my dad moved a few years back. So far all I have found is the hammer cocking arm with the round side plate and hammer. Its pretty rough condition but I did have a barrel.
A surprising amount of "patina" on this gun. I'm kinda surprised we didn't see Mark Novak pushing past you to get it cleaned up a little more. 😁
As a non wheel gun enjoyer, I am happy to have a rifle/shotgun episode. When we getting a semi auto shotgun episode?
Thanks for the video
Another excellent episode. One that I definitely was not expecting.
In Viet Nam, 12 gauge pumps were fairly common, but not on the books. The dense jungle patrol often had 1 or 2 per squad, but they would also sling an M-16 for show. When units rotated out, the shotguns were left (well, actually traded) to the new units. The old service sergeants had a big hand in it.
I thought for sure this was a "Takedown" or "Just for Gun" episode until Othias said "I assure you this is a combat arm!"
11:00 To shotgun guys is commonly called a rebounding hammer. After firing a shell, the firing pin properly retracted, cannot be damaged if stuck forward and the open barrel is being returned to battery.
I like these shotgun episodes. They are the workhorses of American guns.
These videos are great! (Engagement)
I think there might be one of these hanging over the fireplace of the greenwood cracker barrel in south carolina, but I'm not sure... but having seen this episode, I think that might be what it was👍
Muy bueno tu vídeo saludos desde Argentina
"Something sharply shoving on my shoulder" Next t-shirt idea.
Othias being a "corporate shill"..... I love everything about this!
Had one of these #3’s that a buddy found in a rural dump. Relatively complete, with the exception of the cocking lever. Could be put into battery with the use of a small crescent wrench. Somewhat sketchy, couldn’t find a cocking lever, didn’t bother to make one, donated it to a neighbour to make a lovely rustic lamp out of it. ……🤔🤭
I use shot cups with my black powder cartridge shotguns, the combination of black powder and shot cup gives superb patterns, better then a lot of smokeless loads. I also don't shoot them in really nice vintage shotguns, but I have had to restore to shooting conditions. As far as the transition from the shotgun to the rifle, I would of had a few rifles per squad and the rest shotguns, like a modern squad with a Saw. I don't see a lot of long range in a jungle shooting, but a few rifles per squad would keep you from being pinned down and maybe force them to either leave or charge, the the shotguns could be brought to bear. In thick brush, the opposite would happen, where the shotgun would shine and the rifle would most probably be ineffective except with a bayonet. Just my two cents. You could also have a rifle and pistol combo to be effective also. I can't remember, what they ended up doing off hand. Nice video as always.
Ballistol is an amazing product and deserves some coverage...........
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Superbly interesting, thanks !
I absolutely love old single shot shotguns. I used to have an old 1929 Springfield brand .410 that I learned to shoot with.
Loved Duck Hunt but Hogan’s Alley was the best!
Thats a nice shotgun , nice control
The FDA says I can't tell you some of my uses for Ballistol either 😉.
Balistol! Obviously educational and informative while entertaining 👍 Keep up the great work....BALISTOL is on all of my guns.
Nice work as always! I have yet to be disappointed by anything on this channel!
VERY interesting piece of history. Thanks, Othias and Mae!
I have a no3 but it needs some good work. I'm. Glad someone finally made a video on it cause there is barely any information easily available on it
This kind of reminds me of my New England Firearms Pardner 12 gauge single shot that I carry on duty. I'm a armed security officer in Houston, Texas and I keep it in a case behind the seat of the patrol truck, along with 10 rounds of 00 BUCK. In the last six years I only had to get it out twice, once during Harvey and once when there was a escaped prisoner. Cheap, simple, reliable.
Leonard Geiger was granted the patent for the original Remington rolling block (split breech). Joeseph Rider was a Remington Employee who worked on improving the design. The Geiger patent was purchased by Remington.
That armeoel is really good. The brochure in the 100yr anniversary pkg shows all its functions.
very good video as always. great insight by both of you, great animation, great discussion, very funny discussion section, very good video. You deserve lots of support. Thank you.
Excellent work as always y'all, I share the enthusiasm about black powder shot shells!
The way guns show up and stay around I can't help but wonder if some saw action much latter, as in WW2.
43:37 I *so* want an Alof's for my 20 gauge!
Classic firearms
Wonderful!
I believe that this shotgun is the same model as the 16g that hangs above the fireplace at my grandma's house. My great grandpa had two guns, the Remington 16g that I mentioned, and the Stevens .22/.410 that is at my dad's house. They both went to my late grandfather, and he gave the Remington to my uncle and the Stevens to my deaddy.
Thanks!
Love it! More obscure sporting guns please! Ballistol is the lube of the gods
I do love the more oddball gun histories, so much more in terms of odd twists and turns in them.