History Primer 175: Martini-Henry MkII Documentary

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  • Опубликовано: 22 дек 2024

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  • @acidtreat101
    @acidtreat101 Год назад +92

    Thanks to Dave from Dublin and to be honest, I am glad to see the show in this direction. I love and appreciate this content and if you are willing to accept these larger donations, it means I can continue enjoying it. I also hope it means some of the burden and stress is off the team because you do AMAZING WORK!

  • @agentcrm
    @agentcrm Год назад +46

    Huge thanks to those that can donate extra per month to keep the show going. You guys have some great supporters.

    • @chpet1655
      @chpet1655 Год назад +1

      Including Dave from Dublin of course

  • @9HoleReviews
    @9HoleReviews Год назад +10

    Where pith helmet? Need single lens spectacle.

    • @itatane
      @itatane Год назад +3

      Single lens is a monocle... For when you don't want to make a spectacle of yourself... (I'll let myself out...)

    • @9HoleReviews
      @9HoleReviews Год назад +3

      @@itatane lol fantastic… insight… please stay, good sir.

  • @alexcrawford6162
    @alexcrawford6162 Год назад +74

    I’ve never, ever noticed this before, the BSA logo is not just 3 stacked rifles, it’s 3 stacked Martini-Henrys!

    • @Lomi311
      @Lomi311 Год назад +7

      I’m surprised I’ve never noticed that myself. Of course!

  • @ls-420stoner6
    @ls-420stoner6 Год назад +18

    I love your content and wanna do something to help y'all out. It's not as much as I wanna give, but it's all I can afford at present. Will donate more in the future.

  • @jamesbarnes4832
    @jamesbarnes4832 Год назад +54

    Thanks for helping us all out Dave from Dublin! Great Episode!

    • @christhesmith
      @christhesmith Год назад +2

      Who outed Dave?!?

    • @timblack6422
      @timblack6422 Год назад +4

      @@christhesmith Othias.. you didn’t watch til the end?

  • @404-ThisUsernameIsAlreadyTaken
    @404-ThisUsernameIsAlreadyTaken Год назад +4

    Never have I been more interested in the history and functioning of the second model of a seemingly basic single-shot rifle. I don't know how, but you guys have managed to provide content that is as captivating as it is informative. Never stop.

  • @VanDaRifleman
    @VanDaRifleman Год назад +91

    I once read on a message board, "My father watched 'Zulu' & bought a Martini-Henry. I watched 'Zulu' & bought an FN-FAL."

    • @mikebrase5161
      @mikebrase5161 Год назад +8

      😂 that's hilarious

    • @JozefLucifugeKorzeniowski
      @JozefLucifugeKorzeniowski 8 месяцев назад +11

      aw man I watched zulu and got a cowhide shield and assegai. turns out you need a considerable number more than 1 each to worry a British colonial expeditionary force. theyve annexed my domicile so I've strategically redeployed to the dog house where i plan my coup. I can smell them making tea day and night 24/7 and can see all the windows are fogged up with steam. they also play this game in my yard that looks sorta looks like baseball but every aspect of it looks dumb and awkward. I also overheard one of them talking about "kill-o-meters" I think it's some kind of device for measuring kills, I dunno I got a headache from just hearing the word. I'm starting to wonder if the place is even worth recovering.

  • @davidneely4762
    @davidneely4762 Год назад +1

    Thanks

  • @richardanderson2742
    @richardanderson2742 Год назад +19

    A bit of additional trivia on your 3rd model Mark I converted to Mark II. You can tell it was originally a late or 3rd model MK I because it doesn’t have a fill in for the earlier Mark I set screw for the block pin. One point you may wish to make to owners and potential owners of the Brit MH....most of the rifles in current circulation came from the Nepal cache, which was hurriedly refurbished and shipped to Nepal, where they were maintained by local armorers. Clearly during the refurb and later maintenance the "parts is parts" philosophy was used and you can find any number of weird combinations of parts in any given rifle.

    • @mpsmith47304
      @mpsmith47304 6 месяцев назад

      True to an extent, of course. They WERE aware of parts compatibility. I have seen Mk I buttstock that had been rehsaped and reconfigured for fitting to Mk IV's. The Ft William arsenal was interested in producing functional rifles, not collector's pieces. Having said that, My IMA Mk II had all the correct parts, though the rear barrel band was a BSA part, rather than an Enfield part. I have a nn-Nepal Cache Mk II, and it is cool to see one that will well-used, doesn't have any of the Nepalese markings. It even still has the faint original cartouche on the butt stock. My IMA mk II has a slightly better bore, though.

  • @Jargolf86
    @Jargolf86 Год назад +3

    Thank you Mae and Othias, thank you Dave from Dublin ;-)

  • @fatmandoobius
    @fatmandoobius Год назад +1

    Ha small world. I live just down the road from the Weedon Repair facility. Labelled as the Weedon Royal Ordnance Depot, usually told by locals the place did nothing more than store arms up until just after WW2. Cool to hear it did do more than be a glorified warehouse.
    The site has sort of languished in obscurity. I believe it hosts a series of small shops now and there is talk of turning the into apartments or offices. Kinda sad story for the place really but with it being out in the sticks and attached to Weedon the little village of nothing much it's no wonder the places history in British arms has been lost and forgotten. Thanks for the fun lil bit of info Othias, nice to know it took part in such a massive conversion and had a bigger role to play than I'd known.

  • @sae1095hc
    @sae1095hc Год назад +9

    "When 'arf of your bullets fly wide in the ditch,
    Don't call your Martini a cross-eyed old b!tch;
    She's human as you are -- you treat her as sich,
    An' she'll fight for the young British soldier.
    Fight, fight, fight for the soldier . . ."

  • @redc2367
    @redc2367 Год назад +19

    Crazy how the Martini Henry pretty much kickstarted the career of Michael Caine.

  • @blanktm228
    @blanktm228 Год назад +1

    Despite lack of Rob, you get a double watch. Appreciate your great work as always!

  • @Ben_not_10
    @Ben_not_10 Год назад +15

    Othias: another hit out of the park. And I think you’ve hit something on the head in regards to firearms legends and fame. The mosin nagant isn’t a great firearm, the martini isn’t a perfect firearm, the M1 is a fantastic firearm (for its era) but it’s not the gun that made the legendary victories or final stands. As a Sousa march is titled it’s “The Man behind the Gun.” Hope you’re enjoying your trip (even though it is for work). Have a great day.

  • @cseivard
    @cseivard Год назад +11

    Thanks. I am already watching. Looks like rewatching ZULU is in order ( thanks tubi!)

    • @itatane
      @itatane Год назад +2

      One of my favorites growing up. I remember feeling betrayed when I found out how badly the filmmakers twisted the characters. For example, Commissary Dalton was a former Non Commissioned Officer, and a beast of a man. (He got so angry at the Zulus' probing attacks that he threw his pith helmet at them.) Hook was a teetotaler who helped out in the hospital, and Bromhead and Chard were decent, typical officers of the era. I highly recommend Col. Mike Snook's books on the Anglo-Zulu war.

    • @cseivard
      @cseivard Год назад +2

      @@itatane yes, I was too. They never sing as a choir either! And Hook was NOT a thief! I believe he was eventually ordained!

  • @leppeppel
    @leppeppel Год назад +3

    Thanks Dave! And thank you as always to Othais and Mae.

  • @matthaught4707
    @matthaught4707 Год назад

    Mandatory comment to satiate the algorithmic gods.
    Seriously though, this is one of the most consistently awesome shows on RUclips, and it's downright criminal how they're throttling your reach.

  • @awokado5710
    @awokado5710 Год назад +2

    Thanks to everybody that made it possible for this episode to happen! It's a great one!

  • @MrPeteJahn
    @MrPeteJahn Год назад +2

    Thanks Dave from Dublin

  • @kevinchristensen534
    @kevinchristensen534 Год назад +2

    Huge thanks to Dave from Dublin!

  • @HereticalKitsune
    @HereticalKitsune Год назад +4

    The Martini action is one of my favorite early ones, I just like the concept of it!

  • @Tunkkis
    @Tunkkis Год назад +1

    Dave from Dublin sounds like a swell guy, and I very much appreciate his contribution.

  • @rossstenner4402
    @rossstenner4402 Год назад +3

    Another excellent episode.
    "Look to your front" " Mark your target"

  • @jonathanhudak2059
    @jonathanhudak2059 Год назад +2

    Great episode! Thank you Dave from Dublin for your generous contribution! Looking forward to part 3 of the series!

  • @alancarr3381
    @alancarr3381 Год назад +3

    Thanks you guys. And thanks Dave from Dublin

  • @iamnolegend2519
    @iamnolegend2519 Год назад

    I’m happy some people can give 1:02:21 extra funds to help cover your costs !

  • @SgtGenDanbo
    @SgtGenDanbo Год назад +4

    Finally, the day has come. Been hoping for this episode for years, thank you!!!

  • @davidbrennan660
    @davidbrennan660 Год назад +4

    Yo, the Henry Channel is in the house!
    Liked... now to enjoy... Go Team A&Rsenal....👍
    Hail Dave from Dublin.... for Dave is Legion!... good on ya .... .

  • @itatane
    @itatane Год назад +4

    I wish you could get your hands on a Swinburne-Henry variant, like the ones used by Durant Scott and the Natal Carbineers. (The Zebra Warriors at Isandlhwana are still remembered by the Zulus in song.)
    However, they are BEYOND unobtanium; I have only seen one for sale on GunBroker in 10 years, and it went for more than my car cost.

  • @StrimClocks
    @StrimClocks Год назад +1

    I am planning on starting donations as soon as I get a job, so thanks Dave for making this episode possible.

  • @anthonycastlegrande2158
    @anthonycastlegrande2158 Год назад +2

    i purchased a Martini action rifle / shot gun that was converted to 16 gauge. i got it back in the 80's from navy arms when they had a store in NJ.

  • @greylocke100
    @greylocke100 Год назад +1

    Thank you Dave from Dublin.

  • @Grimmtoof
    @Grimmtoof Год назад +4

    I have been waiting years to say this.
    At one hundred yards, volley fire! Present! Aim! Fire!

  • @twistedsaltypretzel7727
    @twistedsaltypretzel7727 Год назад +8

    Great video as always C&R crew! Martini carbines are frankly adorable. British imperialism not so much, do appreciate the fantastic history lesson from the perspective of arms / armourers / procurement, fascinating stuff. Thanks so much!

    • @Sableagle
      @Sableagle Год назад +3

      I recently read that the most common national holiday, the thing celebrated on its own day every year by more countries than anything else, is independence from the British Empire.

    • @twistedsaltypretzel7727
      @twistedsaltypretzel7727 Год назад

      @@Sableagle That sounds about right. F the crown.

  • @avanticurecanti9998
    @avanticurecanti9998 Год назад +1

    MMMMUUUAAAHHHH the British Martini has alwas been celebrated for its excellence.

  • @hessex1899
    @hessex1899 Год назад +3

    My absolute favorite old rifle. Because of this gun I ended up spending years lost in the world of BPCR.

    • @hessex1899
      @hessex1899 Год назад +3

      @@redactedanticretin Black Powder Cartridge Rifle

  • @bhoward9378
    @bhoward9378 Год назад +1

    Thank you, Dave!

  • @dfell1236
    @dfell1236 Год назад

    Dave from Dublin knows when he sees a good show, thanks dude

  • @browngreen933
    @browngreen933 Год назад +1

    Seeing these extraction problems gives me greater appreciation for the 1898 Mauser claw extractor and cam on opening.

    • @zoiders
      @zoiders Год назад

      The Mauser would experience the exact same problem. It's a brass problem not a problem with the action it self.

    • @browngreen933
      @browngreen933 Год назад

      @@zoiders
      Disagree. Ian explained how the early MH extractor sprung out of shape -- the big Mauser claw isn't gonna do that.

    • @zoiders
      @zoiders Год назад

      @@browngreen933 And neither is the Enfield as neither the Mauser or Enfield use foil cartridges that get the head torn off. It's a cartridge problem.

  • @brianfoster4434
    @brianfoster4434 Год назад

    Thanks you for the details about the bayonet and the leather hand guard.

  • @nicholasresar
    @nicholasresar Год назад +2

    Can't wait for next week's episode on the MkII*. At least I think that's how the British numbering works.

  • @timblack6422
    @timblack6422 Год назад

    Thank you, Dave from Dublin!

  • @coldandaloof7166
    @coldandaloof7166 Год назад +1

    My first motorcycle was a 1976 BSA 650 Lightning. My dad still has the bike in the barn.

  • @JohnCBobcat
    @JohnCBobcat Год назад +1

    Yes! More Martini!

  • @halfcan-nitafan5207
    @halfcan-nitafan5207 Год назад +1

    I have a carbine sword bayonet I dug up in London it's missing the pointed end by about four inches but it's nice to have I found it three meters in the ground when I worked in utilities in London

  • @p.bckman2997
    @p.bckman2997 Год назад

    Thank you for this very thorough episode on an absolute classic!

  • @aperson1905
    @aperson1905 Год назад

    On the top of breech, stamped sx or s-x for strengthened extractor

  • @Lomi311
    @Lomi311 Год назад

    A huge thanks to Dave from Dublin!

  • @stevenwestswanson9263
    @stevenwestswanson9263 Год назад +1

    A great video! Can not wait for the Mark III

  • @briankerr4512
    @briankerr4512 Год назад +1

    you have the best show

  • @benjaminpeck-nb1lh
    @benjaminpeck-nb1lh Год назад

    We are blessed with another video

  • @jamesb3497
    @jamesb3497 Год назад +1

    So, are we going to get to see an IC with the sword bayonet? I'll grab my Nagant officer brawler and medkit!

  • @3of11
    @3of11 Год назад +3

    You need a machine gun to mow down a bunch of people.
    Martini Henry: hold my tea!

  • @maewinchester2030
    @maewinchester2030 Год назад +7

    All the martinis!!

    • @sheslikeheroin1661
      @sheslikeheroin1661 Год назад +1

      Another great episode. Thank you for all your hard work!

  • @RepeatedFailure
    @RepeatedFailure Год назад +1

    The Kabul Arsenal carbine length martinis I have, starting production after these, now makes slightly more sense in context. I had wondered the design purpose of the tulip head style cleaning rod. That didn't stop the crowns getting chipped to hell in the last 100+ years.
    One question: does the hollow screw that holds the firing pin/spring assembly in place in the block not extend forward more to partially tension the spring? Or was this omitted in the animation for visual clarity?

  • @IRMacGuyver
    @IRMacGuyver Год назад

    Towards the conversation at the end about the all 32 channel time period I gotta say the "worst" slump to me was when C&Rsenal was the all Mauser channel. How many slight changes to the bolt do we have to sit through? But damnit I'll sit through it and I'll learn something. I'm actually currently rewatching everything starting from episode 1 and am currently on 86... damn mausers....

  • @r2crowseye
    @r2crowseye Год назад +1

    Dave from Dublin is goated!

  • @zoiders
    @zoiders Год назад +5

    "He maketh wars to cease unto the end of the earth; he breaketh the bow, and cutteth the spear in sunder; he burneth the chariot in the fire.."

  • @1861James
    @1861James Год назад +2

    Enjoyed the video as always 😊

  • @paulvenn4447
    @paulvenn4447 Год назад

    7:40 most expensive aftermarket part for both full size framed and Cadet framed Martinis

  • @peteslinn482
    @peteslinn482 Год назад +1

    You can also tell it's a Mk I converted to Mk II by looking at the II stamped on the side - It's not centred as there was originally a I centred there, then they stamped a second I to the right of it :)

  • @cseivard
    @cseivard Год назад +2

    Um, how much of this will be on the test? A very thorough story. Thank you.

  • @paleoph6168
    @paleoph6168 Год назад +1

    Love your Primer episodes! You guys are YDAW (Your Dinosaurs Are Wrong) but instead about guns and upload more frequently.

  • @krijnvandersman7998
    @krijnvandersman7998 Год назад +1

    lovely video

  • @MrAnpu42
    @MrAnpu42 Год назад

    I would love for you to go over the guns and gunplay from Lackadaisy [Pilot], it looks great use of a BAR, Thompson, M1911, and Colt 1903 (.25 ACP)

  • @Lemonjellow
    @Lemonjellow Год назад +9

    If you pour olive juice down the barrel of your Martini... You get a Dirty Martini... I will once again see myself out... 😊

  • @jorgechalub8930
    @jorgechalub8930 Год назад

    Muy bueno tu vídeo saludos desde Argentina

  • @DuraLexSedLex
    @DuraLexSedLex Год назад

    Huh, something seems off since it says I'm subbed and has the bell lit up but I wasn't given a notif that this went up.
    Glad I check the channel manually every other day.

  • @christopherseivard8925
    @christopherseivard8925 Год назад

    Othias, my hero. I just sent the link out to everyone with a similar plea.

  • @ketsuekikumori9145
    @ketsuekikumori9145 Год назад +1

    10:52: Officer: I hate sand. It's rough, course, and gets me shot.

  • @joet.s.6283
    @joet.s.6283 Год назад

    Loving these

  • @paulketchupwitheverything767
    @paulketchupwitheverything767 Год назад

    Difficulty with the relief and evacuation of Khartoum 1884/85? Plus ça change.

  • @JenniferinIllinois
    @JenniferinIllinois Год назад +2

    At this rate, it's going to take years before we get the full history of Ballistol. 🤣🤣🤣

  • @MadAntLab
    @MadAntLab Год назад +2

    Excellent episode as always! But WHERE CAN I BUY THAT SHIRT? I love that color combination.
    Keep up the good work, whenever i smell Ballistol i think of you folks! :)

    • @ericmckinley7985
      @ericmckinley7985 Год назад

      Agreed. Tempted to pester him w/ Pateron question just to find out where he gets his Drip from.

  • @Hybris51129
    @Hybris51129 Год назад

    Thanks to the mega donors! If I could afford more than buying 5 shirts a year I would follow in your steps!

  • @peoplesauce
    @peoplesauce Год назад

    will watch when i get caught up :)

  • @eagafonov
    @eagafonov Год назад +2

    Just in time

  • @TheStraycat74
    @TheStraycat74 Год назад

    20:23 omfg, that gun is 100 years older than I am! also, that time stamp...

  • @astondriver
    @astondriver Год назад +1

    just wait to we get to the 303 caliber carbine in use in the Boer war by mounted cavalry.

  • @hungryhedgehog4201
    @hungryhedgehog4201 5 месяцев назад

    This explains the casualty statistics for the Boer wars

  • @AndrewHardwick-hh8sl
    @AndrewHardwick-hh8sl 7 месяцев назад

    How about reviewing the Martini Metford 303. That will, or should,cover the whole lot.

  • @aljole683
    @aljole683 Год назад +1

    Alien. That makes SO much sense! But seriously....your example of how an historian can and should do things, and your passion for the subject, are examples that every person studying history could learn from. If you haven't got a degree in History, there should be a few schools looking to correct that situation. Heck, I'll share mine with you....I teach math anyway!🤣

  • @tombogan03884
    @tombogan03884 Год назад +1

    This was what Kipling is referring to when he writes about, "The Fuzzy Wuzzy" who broke a British square.

  • @woodsmanforlife1677
    @woodsmanforlife1677 Год назад +2

    After watching this episode, I wish I had bought a Martini 50 years ago when they where dirt cheap.

  • @williamwoodrow-xk1ne
    @williamwoodrow-xk1ne 8 месяцев назад

    Ballistol rocks.

  • @Odin029
    @Odin029 Год назад +2

    I would like to say for the record that Maj. Bromhead had some very impressive facial hair.

  • @PeterNissen878112
    @PeterNissen878112 Год назад +1

    And what camo pattern is Mae wearing today?

  • @cheesenoodles8316
    @cheesenoodles8316 Год назад

    Thank you Dave. Other guys too.

  • @williamflowers9435
    @williamflowers9435 Год назад

    RUclips suppressing this content is ridiculous. If this isn’t family friendly then idk what is

    • @albert-uj8ci
      @albert-uj8ci Год назад

      You Tube can do what they want, they don't like guns and they own the website.
      You are lucky they provide you with these videos and C&R are lucky they carry their content. I find it annoying that people carp about You Tube while taking the money You Tube provides them.
      C&R, like everybody else, can post it on their own web site if they are unhappy.

  • @mikewysko2268
    @mikewysko2268 Год назад +1

    Outch! Definitely a purple shoulder.

  • @lafeelabriel
    @lafeelabriel Год назад

    Would you happen to know if this Godwin Austen was in any way related to the WW2 general of the same (last) name?

  • @clownworld4655
    @clownworld4655 7 месяцев назад

    Just got one that is chambered in 450 nitro express and was used as an African safari rifle

  • @alpenschatz
    @alpenschatz Год назад +29

    “An elegant weapon for a more civilised age.”

    • @McNubbys
      @McNubbys Год назад +10

      Africa:...I am going to have to disagree 😐

    • @ericwethington
      @ericwethington Год назад +5

      Considering they used by the people who invented the concentration camp I wouldn't call it a more civilized age but there is definitely nothing like the old world craftsmanship that goes into firearms made at this time

    • @justwastingtimeonyt9952
      @justwastingtimeonyt9952 Год назад +2

      ​@@ericwethington "used by the people who invented the concentration camp"🤓🤓🤓

    • @ericwethington
      @ericwethington Год назад +1

      @@justwastingtimeonyt9952 ?

    • @DefunctYompelvert
      @DefunctYompelvert Год назад +1

      @@ericwethington We must judge the actions of people 130 years ago through a modern lens 🤓🤓🤓☝️☝️☝️I would have not complied with the nazis! 🤓🤓

  • @Oil_of_Hope
    @Oil_of_Hope Год назад +1

    Comment for showing engagement.🎉🎉

  • @jon-paulfilkins7820
    @jon-paulfilkins7820 Год назад +1

    So, the .32 ACP pistol channel moved through the Mauser channel to the Martini channel, Hussar!

  • @WheezyIsHere
    @WheezyIsHere Год назад

    I mean this in a good way, i use these videos to fall asleep. I have probably seen every single one. Love gun history and battlefield 1 was one of my favorite games, so many iconic weapons. Also have come to the conclusion you guys are vampires. Im onto you 😐

  • @Primarch359
    @Primarch359 Год назад +1

    Is it Shaken or Stirred?

  • @Bird_Dog00
    @Bird_Dog00 Год назад

    I find it interesting that this rifle stayed in production until the end of the 1880s.
    That was the time when many european nations were already busy introducing smokeless repeaters.
    The Martini-Henry must have looked rather obsolete by that time...