$300 million spent on near-empty Illinois "ghost airport"

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  • Опубликовано: 21 сен 2024
  • An airport built with dreams of becoming one of the nation's busiest is sitting almost empty. Mid-America Airport outside St. Louis cost hundreds of millions to construct, but today it sees just four flights a week and has faced years of financial losses. Management is hoping new service to Las Vegas will attract more passengers. Dean Reynolds reports from the airport in Mascoutah, Illinois.

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  • @itscsteph
    @itscsteph 4 года назад +1111

    Really RUclips you gave me a news video on an airpot that's about 4-5 years old

    • @tedmccarron
      @tedmccarron 4 года назад +11

      AirpoRt.

    • @arvelle4
      @arvelle4 4 года назад +34

      And you watched it just like I did haha

    • @itscsteph
      @itscsteph 4 года назад +3

      @@arvelle4 actually I didn't, i clicked on the video thinking it was recent then saw its from 2015

    • @Satoshi9801
      @Satoshi9801 4 года назад

      @@itscsteph My first clue came when I saw the MD-80s; I knew Allegiant had gotten rid of those.

    • @ephapax1
      @ephapax1 4 года назад

      Right?!!

  • @leannestrong1000
    @leannestrong1000 7 лет назад +762

    Maybe they could turn it into a flight school, so they could still use the runways.

    • @youtuuba
      @youtuuba 7 лет назад +23

      Scott Air Force Base already uses the runways.....the base was there for a long time before Mid America's terminal and ramp were built. It is a major base, so they definitely use the runways! So the only part that is unused is the (relatively) unused newer parts.

    • @quinnjim
      @quinnjim 7 лет назад +8

      @Leanne The runways are used every day. Opening a flight school is fine, but doesn't bring in that much activity. Not really a "problem solving" idea you have there.

    • @gmarod6099
      @gmarod6099 4 года назад +2

      Thats what I though! There is a pilot shortage!

    • @jasondesouto919
      @jasondesouto919 4 года назад +2

      Turn it into a drag strip

    • @Civ33
      @Civ33 4 года назад

      @@gmarod6099 There are plenty of pilots. There is a shortage of *qualified* pilots for the positions that need to be filled.

  • @elgrigorio1
    @elgrigorio1 4 года назад +475

    No wonder illinois is always broke.

    • @jamesricker3997
      @jamesricker3997 4 года назад +38

      The ironic part is Chicago's O'Hare International Airport is overcrowded

    • @elliottcorbin9522
      @elliottcorbin9522 4 года назад +19

      O’Hare (Chicago) is far away from the Mid-America airport.

    • @jihnk1
      @jihnk1 4 года назад +26

      DEMORATS

    • @justat1149
      @justat1149 4 года назад +25

      Illinois: “We’re broke, have horrible leaders, and our roads are awful...
      Come live here!!!”

    • @yutian5884
      @yutian5884 4 года назад +17

      Visited Chicago this summer. Sales tax over 10%. How is this state still broke lol?!

  • @lensofeli1762
    @lensofeli1762 4 года назад +574

    okay but it looks cool as heck

    • @casey9559
      @casey9559 4 года назад +4

      Could say the same about the UK, especially London's Telephone boxes. (I'm British BTW)

    • @lensofeli1762
      @lensofeli1762 4 года назад

      aye yeah that is cool

    • @rhodesianwojak2095
      @rhodesianwojak2095 4 года назад

      @@casey9559 yes.

    • @geraldbuncum3861
      @geraldbuncum3861 4 года назад +6

      It looks like an airport.

    • @mason9879
      @mason9879 4 года назад +2

      BLV (Mid-America) is actually my home airport! It is quite a cool space going there, but most of the time quite bare. Being most of the building is glass you get great views of the ramp, sadly it’s only 1 flight when you’re there, or some military/ga aircraft.

  • @adem2709
    @adem2709 4 года назад +235

    Hey somebody call Jeff Bezos he can have his own airport distribution center in the middle of the country

    • @monas.6839
      @monas.6839 4 года назад +15

      Andres Miller I don’t know if you meant this sarcastically, but I think this is a brilliant idea. 🙂

    • @adem2709
      @adem2709 4 года назад +25

      @@monas.6839 Nope. No sarcasm. Completely serious. All I ask is that when he purchases the airport, that he pays off my student loans/grad school as a finder's fee😂

    • @damnimloomin
      @damnimloomin 4 года назад

      He already did that with cvg after delta made it a ghost town

    • @hauberbrian
      @hauberbrian 4 года назад

      Check out the proposed peotone airport near Chicago that is trying to get Amazon or someone to do that

    • @anniebellemiller2986
      @anniebellemiller2986 4 года назад

      I like this idea, but yeah, it is in the middle of nowhere.

  • @hankterreros223
    @hankterreros223 9 лет назад +1458

    Use it for a movie set?

  • @db60615
    @db60615 4 года назад +507

    I don't see how anyone thought this would be a good idea. STL airport was never busy enough to build a $300 mil airport 40 miles away.....

    • @philipthomas6808
      @philipthomas6808 4 года назад +28

      It was a good idea at the time when they built and designed it because St. Louis Lambert field is an old airport with only 2 runways and it would have cost millions and millions of dollars to buy out surrounding homes and property in order to build a 3rd runway, and at one point while one of the 2 existing runways was being rebuilt and expanded, they were down to one runway for awhile, plus before TWA was acquired by AA, Lambert field was getting too crowded and it was assumed that something needed to be done for easing congestion there...

    • @poppiarlin5612
      @poppiarlin5612 4 года назад +14

      Philip Thomas
      This was nothing but a congressman’s pet project. Nothing else!

    • @db60615
      @db60615 4 года назад +7

      @@poppiarlin5612 THANK YOU! Let's call a spade a spade.

    • @samhowell6729
      @samhowell6729 4 года назад +12

      db60615 when this was conceived and opened Lambert was in fact one of the largest airports in the country, and the 25th largest in the world by passenger volume. The hope was to make this a piggy back support airport like Chicago midway. Problem was when TWA was bought by AA and They pulled a lot of traffic from lambert.

    • @Wasserkaktus
      @Wasserkaktus 4 года назад +5

      I think they were banking on the fact that St. Louis is literally the geographic center of the Lower 48, and this assumed that air traffic would reflect that.

  • @lowellmccormick6991
    @lowellmccormick6991 4 года назад +482

    This is the kind of thing you do with other people's money.

    • @miniontm69
      @miniontm69 4 года назад +25

      Just like Socialism

    • @SuffyanTariq
      @SuffyanTariq 4 года назад +7

      This is what happens when a Capatalist Corrupt Company like TWA goes bankrupt overnight. Do remember they expected growth from TWA.

    • @lowellmccormick6991
      @lowellmccormick6991 4 года назад +30

      @@SuffyanTariq It would be better if airline companies would pay for airports themselves rather than politicians speculating with tax dollars. Same with professional sports teams.

    • @Mr3344555
      @Mr3344555 4 года назад +7

      Poor people's/non investors money. You do this to an investor, youre getting sued and going to federal prison.

    • @timothywells3908
      @timothywells3908 4 года назад +2

      Honestly I think I’ve been on the internet too long today. I instantly thought “yep money laundering for child trafficking”.

  • @grantbooher7
    @grantbooher7 4 года назад +246

    "Wait a little longer, there'll be more people in here"
    *been open for TwO dECadEs*

    • @hauberbrian
      @hauberbrian 4 года назад +4

      It's actually doing really good now

    • @hauberbrian
      @hauberbrian 4 года назад +2

      It's actually doing pretty good now, a lot different from 4 years ago

    • @yoked1234
      @yoked1234 4 года назад +1

      Idk what these people are talking about the only commercial airline is still Allegiant so there’s still 80+ empty gates

    • @grantbooher7
      @grantbooher7 4 года назад +1

      @@yoked1234 lmao. false facts

    • @hauberbrian
      @hauberbrian 4 года назад +1

      @@yoked1234 they do not have 80+ gates lol

  • @kevinbarry71
    @kevinbarry71 4 года назад +241

    That manager is living somewhere other than reality.

    • @mondexponent2126
      @mondexponent2126 4 года назад +14

      Germany is building an airport that should’ve been finished in 2009 costing about 5,5 Billion. Hasn’t even had one flight yet xD

    • @XX-166
      @XX-166 4 года назад +20

      He’s trying to keep his job.. what do you think he’s gonna say?

    • @XX-166
      @XX-166 4 года назад +14

      Zeksteve yeah 4 more people showed up for a flight.

    • @XX-166
      @XX-166 4 года назад +4

      Zeksteve and they still aren’t making any money after millions of dollars. That was some politicians pet reject.

    • @XX-166
      @XX-166 4 года назад +2

      Zeksteve they also have landing slot and gates that are full along with revenue from passengers and fuel that’s given out along with revenue from parking and the concourse for food etc. Things this vacant lot doesn’t have.

  • @YourselfAndEye
    @YourselfAndEye 4 года назад +170

    Wasting tex payer's money is Illinois's expertise

  • @Stlfa
    @Stlfa 4 года назад +28

    This airport has grown so much. Flew to Fort Lauderdale a couple of weeks ago and they place was packed. Each gate had a plane and even with Covid, there were tons of passengers.

    • @Reloadeez
      @Reloadeez 2 года назад +4

      They have one airline, allegiant, the airport only has 2 active gates, yes 2 gates. They average less than 3 flights a day. Passenger travel is up compared to 2020-2021 during the peak of the pandemic, but not compared to 2019 travel. Lets compare it to a tiny little airport in Mid-Missouri, Columbia regional, it averages 10 departures and arrivals per day. The total airport build cost was 35 million. A 300 million dollar airport should have 20 plus gates and 20-30 flights per day. This airport is a money pit.

    • @Stlfa
      @Stlfa 2 года назад +1

      @@Reloadeez COU is averaging 5-6 flights a day depending on the day with 50-76 seat regional jets…Erj-145, Crj-700 and Erj-175. I’m not disputing that BLV isn’t as busy as one would expect it to be but it’s not a laughable operation either. My understanding is with the new gate expansion they are in the process of completing, Allegiant is going to open a crew and aircraft base there. I believe the airport is headed in the right direction. Regardless, it serves a niche market that Allegiant is very happy with. Just my opinion and i of course respect yours.

    • @Reloadeez
      @Reloadeez 2 года назад

      @@Stlfa I think the airport was a mistake, with lambert only a 34 min drive its a tough sale. I understand it's original purpose was an overflow for lambert. But lambert currently has 2 empty concourses with 23 gates that they will lease dirt cheap, and nobody is interested. Now if no major airport was within 80-100 miles I could see the feasibility of it.

  • @bdrizzy5570
    @bdrizzy5570 4 года назад +175

    Man i live in St.Louis and I never even heard of Mid America

    • @bigbennelson000
      @bigbennelson000 4 года назад +30

      That's in Chicago. This is Mid America

    • @bdrizzy5570
      @bdrizzy5570 4 года назад +13

      Ben Nelson That’s right, my mistake. I guess that’s how irrelevant it is.

    • @DustDevilRage
      @DustDevilRage 4 года назад +4

      Brandon Truong
      Do push ups and never let it happen again.

    • @garrettord
      @garrettord 4 года назад

      I used to live like 20 mins away, and it continues to be useless. I never realized how big it is/was. I have family that used to work and fly out of there, and it continues to be useless.

    • @itzhispanicman2275
      @itzhispanicman2275 4 года назад

      Ben Nelson it is in St Louis not Chicago.

  • @mkkm945
    @mkkm945 4 года назад +9

    Funny this is in my recommendations. Since this story, nearly 5 years ago, the airport has gone from 31,000 annual passengers to 302,000 according to its Wiki page. Seems like whoever they interviewed is doing a good job!

  • @juslangley
    @juslangley 4 года назад +43

    In 2019, MidAmerica served 301k passengers. Definitely an improvement!

    • @jackson5116
      @jackson5116 4 года назад +1

      Because no one gives a damn about Lambert anymore. That airport has lost hundreds of flights it once had.

    • @jesdadotcom
      @jesdadotcom 2 года назад

      @@jackson5116 That doesnt make sense. Lambert having excess capacity would further negate the need for Mid-America Airport. They seem to have found a way to miraculously drum up traffic.

    • @mstrmren
      @mstrmren Год назад

      @@jesdadotcom That's not true. Mid-America has lower landing fees than Lambert, attracting low-cost airlines. These low-cost airlines will choose Mid-America without even considering Lambert because of this. Lambert having excess capacity would not interfere into Mid-Americas passenger numbers.

    • @turdinthegarybyrd4980
      @turdinthegarybyrd4980 Год назад

      planes gonna plane

  • @kenclark9888
    @kenclark9888 7 лет назад +153

    That money went into the terminal and ramp. The runway was there and Scott AFB has used it for years

    • @KenKen-ui4ny
      @KenKen-ui4ny 7 лет назад +7

      Scott AFB is known as a joint civilian used air base, that means airlines and even private aircraft are permitted to do operations there without having to consult with the base commander, only thing that separates Mid America Airport from the Air Force Base ramp/apron is a patch of trees and some farmers fields, there's also a connecting taxiway that runs off from the control tower

    • @alanhelton
      @alanhelton 7 лет назад +2

      Much like Libby Army Airfield in Sierra Vista Arizona

    • @chrishager3308
      @chrishager3308 7 лет назад +1

      Correct......Sierra Vista hosts both Border Patrol and Mexican Cartel air operations. How crazy is that??

  • @WillD0o
    @WillD0o 4 года назад +239

    And people asking why the U.S. doesn’t have high speed rail.

    • @crissd8283
      @crissd8283 4 года назад +18

      The US doesn't have high speed rail for two reasons. 1st it is a huge country with lot of empty space in the middle. 2nd politicians always want an outlandish speed. They think high speed means special track an 150mph+ but what would really work is improved traditional rail lines that could handle 80mph but that isn't glamorous enough to sell to politicians or tax payers.

    • @SirBobbyK
      @SirBobbyK 4 года назад +13

      Curt D or to dumb it down politicians are stupid.

    • @Rommie26
      @Rommie26 4 года назад +6

      You clearly don’t keep up with news
      Texas, California, Vegas, and Florida high speed rail is under construction

    • @SirBobbyK
      @SirBobbyK 4 года назад +8

      Rommie26 Define “under construction”. Because we all know all these states are gonna start construction then make an excuse to stop construction. Or they wait till people forget about the high speed rail fad then stop construction all together.

    • @Rommie26
      @Rommie26 4 года назад +4

      Bob Smith no California’s is already underway
      Same with Florida
      Foundation are already built
      You gotta start reading more news articles my friend
      You seem uninformed

  • @Karmy.
    @Karmy. 7 лет назад +178

    I love how Foo Fighters' Learn to Fly was playing at the beginning of the video

    • @richardf.s.4409
      @richardf.s.4409 7 лет назад +5

      same

    • @ndrdd23
      @ndrdd23 4 года назад +2

      Wow man thanks I know this is a old comment but been looking for this song for a long time thanks for the name 👍🏽

    • @pat370
      @pat370 4 года назад

      Didn’t notice it till now

  • @lindat5784
    @lindat5784 9 лет назад +401

    why couldn't they interest private jet companies ??

    • @kg7yts187
      @kg7yts187 7 лет назад +31

      And General Aviation and Glider Operations

    • @quinnjim
      @quinnjim 7 лет назад +39

      General aviation is free to use this airport currently. Nobody is really interested in going there. It's far from the city.

    • @youtuuba
      @youtuuba 7 лет назад +16

      Don't forget that this airport shares the runways with Scott Air Force Base, which is a major base and has been there a LOT longer than Mid America. (I used to live at Scott, and later worked there...I remember as a kid riding my bike on the dirt road through the woods, where the Mid America terminal is located now). So it is not like they can just use the airport itself for any old thing (gliders, go-carts, races, etc) because the Air Force is using all that infrastructure all the time.

    • @dorkman112
      @dorkman112 7 лет назад

      seriously154, it's 25 miles away, but it still takes less time mid weekday or late at night. Midamerica is about half an hour to drive downtown and Lambert is only 15-20 minutes.
      Most flights are cheaper, but I've never flown allegiance, nor do I know anyone who has.

    • @DarkSideMaceWindu
      @DarkSideMaceWindu 7 лет назад +2

      You can't force private jet companies to use an airport. There has to be a market for it there.

  • @CityWhisperer
    @CityWhisperer 4 года назад +58

    2:22
    *LAUGHS NERVOUSLY*
    In no way was it a mistake ha.ha.ha.

    • @artistgilmore3982
      @artistgilmore3982 4 года назад +5

      He'll say anything to keep that job

    • @CityWhisperer
      @CityWhisperer 4 года назад +3

      @@artistgilmore3982 Absolutely. Typical rich businessman.

  • @CityWhisperer
    @CityWhisperer 4 года назад +88

    3:01
    *Because right now any passengers here seem to come disguised as...empty seats*
    Mother of lord I hope he mentioned that in the interview lol

  • @djcook
    @djcook 4 года назад +16

    why is this recommended to me

  • @bittewarten3783
    @bittewarten3783 4 года назад +29

    Amateurs, only $300mio.
    We Germans managed to spend over €5.5bio. on the still empty BER Airport in Berlin. Try beating that.

  • @techbuildspcs
    @techbuildspcs 4 года назад +186

    Smells like drug trafficking to me lmao

    • @willfitz94
      @willfitz94 4 года назад +1

      TeCh ExPlOiTs Any drugs are completely illegal in Illinois. If caught trafficking it’s pretty much life in prison so I doubt any smuggling happens.

    • @techbuildspcs
      @techbuildspcs 4 года назад +19

      @@willfitz94 lmao that airport is almost always empty. There's definitely trafficking that happens. Criminals don't care about the law at all. In the Philippines you get killed but yet there are so many drug dealers.

    • @57RollsRoycePhantom
      @57RollsRoycePhantom 4 года назад

      Willfitz94 politicians, police, govt. are all corrupt and in business w/ the drug lords so wouldn’t be surprised if they were turning blind eyes to traffickers.

    • @willfitz94
      @willfitz94 4 года назад

      57RollsRoycePhantom Not factual if you have no evidence. News link if you have one

    • @57RollsRoycePhantom
      @57RollsRoycePhantom 4 года назад

      Willfitz94 don’t need evidence. Common sense. 😂😂

  • @sushirs6770
    @sushirs6770 4 года назад +57

    I flew into mid America once. There was two other people at the airport.

    • @jackson5116
      @jackson5116 4 года назад +4

      I remember when they opened this, lots of fanfare, with people saying Lambert had a competitor- we all laughed!

    • @DavidLLambertmobile
      @DavidLLambertmobile 4 года назад

      Who ran the Starbucks or the Sbarros 🍕?

    • @sushirs6770
      @sushirs6770 4 года назад

      @@DavidLLambertmobile ????????????

    • @gnnascarfan2410
      @gnnascarfan2410 Год назад

      Hey, no TSA wait lol.

  • @shaneshane8482
    @shaneshane8482 4 года назад +10

    I’ve been to this airport several times in my life, as a stl native to see family in FL.
    It is incredibly serene and the feeling is nostalgic and beautiful, plus all of the great Midwestern people collaborating for a moment to get on flight, never hectic and always calm. It’s a cool place, but yeah, unlikely this place will turn a profit. But if you want a peaceful flight, honestly this is your place.

    • @jamesconner3437
      @jamesconner3437 Год назад +1

      ?? ...$300 Million of taxpayer money for a nice, quiet place to relax and plane spot 4 times a day ...??

  • @70sgirl1961
    @70sgirl1961 8 лет назад +197

    This is a great little airport. Free parking, nice Cafe, friendly airport personnel. Allegiant is now flying to 2 (soon to be 3) Florida cities, and Las Vegas a few times a week. Cheap flights, small, cozy airport terminal, come on people, by a ticket! Go somewhere! Support this wonderful, small, regional Airport!!!

    • @dhruvs.2310
      @dhruvs.2310 7 лет назад +14

      Why support it when the city/town it is in isn't a big center of development?

    • @KenKen-ui4ny
      @KenKen-ui4ny 7 лет назад

      It also depends of the value that airlines see out of the airport and area in today economy, i know Southwest usually have there heart set more on the big and medium hub airports like St Louis Lambert, or Nashville Tennessee, unlike Allegiant or Delta they only do service at a few small city and reliever airports depending on the money or justification to do service at that airport, that part of St Clair county is more of rural and farm area, the only near by center of major development is probably more up against the St Louis area

    • @richardf.s.4409
      @richardf.s.4409 7 лет назад +8

      Allegiant is one of the most unsafe airlines in the world. Their maintenance is bare minimum and many of the pilots and employees refuse to allow their families and friends to fly with the airline. It's cheap for a reason. If you're going to fly a budget airline, choose a different one.

    • @TheBudgetGunCollector
      @TheBudgetGunCollector 7 лет назад +6

      70sgirl1961 you seem like a happy and lively lady. I just felt like I should say that.

    • @Matterhorny
      @Matterhorny 6 лет назад +3

      @@richardf.s.4409 They've never lost an airplane

  • @stanton1270
    @stanton1270 4 года назад +8

    I have been trying to find this video for 3 years and today it has finally reappeared in my recommend.

  • @MrMemer
    @MrMemer 4 года назад +68

    First problem: It was in Illinois

    • @pbattis1
      @pbattis1 4 года назад +2

      They should just offer one way flights out of the state of Illinois. Get rid of all arrival gates and make them huge yard sale rooms where you can sell off all your possessions before getting on the plane and the f uck out of there.

    • @ueuuehhh9748
      @ueuuehhh9748 4 года назад +2

      Bruh this is southern illinois. Northern illinois is way different and has the 3rd biggest city in the country, Chicago. We had the tallest building on earth at one point

    • @pbattis1
      @pbattis1 4 года назад +1

      @@ueuuehhh9748 Yes . . .its seems that I've heard of that place. . . .Chicago City? Is it? I've heard that they have very stringent gun control laws and so there is virtually no shootings in the city of Chicago. It must be like being on vacation there but all the time. But seriously. . .I'm sure there are good aspects to Illinois and some wonderful folks out there.

    • @ueuuehhh9748
      @ueuuehhh9748 4 года назад

      @@pbattis1 God bless, may you have a great 2020

    • @IcemanJuice
      @IcemanJuice 4 года назад

      Love and Peace Chicago is a great city they’re just trolling, Illinois is probably much better overall than whatever hillbilly city or state they’re from

  • @DaBlazesUSay
    @DaBlazesUSay 8 лет назад +178

    The reporter barely mentioned it, but the runways are used by Scott Air Force Base, whose facilities are on the opposite side of the field from Mid America Airport. And, Allegiant is slowly adding flights & building up their business. Perhaps other ultra-low cost carriers, like Frontier, will do the same. But it's still too much building for the business, sort of like building a basketball gym to use as a garage for a Ford Focus.

    • @theof.7180
      @theof.7180 7 лет назад +18

      Funny how they framed all their shots to look empty

    • @nntflow7058
      @nntflow7058 7 лет назад +4

      The runway are already there before they building up the new terminal. So it's not part of the 300 million dollar budget. Also this airport need at least 50% occupancy to break even.

    • @patrickperry8951
      @patrickperry8951 6 лет назад

      Scott AFB is closing

    • @tylerkochman1007
      @tylerkochman1007 2 года назад

      Now they are expanding the terminal. Since Allegiant’s traffic apparently now justifies doing so.

  • @williamboehm2782
    @williamboehm2782 7 лет назад +151

    Live 5 miles from it is booming now the parking lots are always filled

    • @pureluck8767
      @pureluck8767 7 лет назад +4

      Ron Bellator no way???

    • @jacato8565
      @jacato8565 7 лет назад +9

      +Pure Luck Yep. I've used it plenty to travel from Orlando to St. Louis. Way cheaper, way more convenient.

    • @pureluck8767
      @pureluck8767 7 лет назад

      Jacato how much cheaper?

    • @RFJersey
      @RFJersey 7 лет назад +7

      Jacato Orlando is such a crappy place that flights there should be free.

    • @satyampatel491
      @satyampatel491 7 лет назад +1

      Yeah this airport is very cheap

  • @KizaruB
    @KizaruB 4 года назад +25

    What a great use of tax dollars (because you bet they get tax benefits for building these things)

  • @privatezeron
    @privatezeron 4 года назад +15

    They said it's a good spot for quiet meditation. I'm done lmao

  • @YoungGrizzly
    @YoungGrizzly 4 года назад +14

    The director's face screams, "Amazon please save us!"

  • @martinishot
    @martinishot 4 года назад +88

    I flew in and out of St Louis a number of times in the mid 2000s and I would have tried this airport if the light rail stopped at the terminal like it does at Lambert.I remember learning online I had to take a shuttle from light rail to the airport. Is that still the way it is?

    • @pIaidified
      @pIaidified 4 года назад +2

      I used to live in Mascoutah a couple years ago and last I remember, the metro stopped in Belleville so yes you would have to take a shuttle.

    • @2Beigatti
      @2Beigatti 4 года назад +1

      The metro link has its own stop at the airport. It directly connects to it

    • @douglas685
      @douglas685 4 года назад +1

      Metrolink doesn't direct connect, there is now a $3 shuttle to shuttle you over to the station. The reason why is that the Metrolink line would have to run through the airbase, which is not something that is easy to do yet for obvious security reasons. The shuttle actually takes you out to the highway around the base, and then to the Metrolink stop on the other side. From there it's a 20-30 minute ride to downtown

    • @jackson5116
      @jackson5116 4 года назад

      You mean Metrolink? I live less than a mile from one of its stops, and there is work getting it out there- it extends to Scott Air Force Base now.

    • @jackson5116
      @jackson5116 4 года назад +1

      @@2Beigatti No it doesn't. Scott Air Force Base is as far as it goes right now. Lambert is the only one it connects to right now.

  • @RickStoneTravels
    @RickStoneTravels 4 года назад +59

    I was stuck outside this airport all night before, not open 24 hours like Google said

    • @jja1483
      @jja1483 4 года назад +2

      Rick Stone Travels were u waiting 4 the pilot to get there😯

  • @jack9107
    @jack9107 4 года назад +10

    Airport: *never turned a profit, no passengers, 4 flights a week*
    Primary struggler: “no way was it a mistake”🙂

    • @justtimm1255
      @justtimm1255 4 года назад

      Some people were born to lie.....

    • @michaelwhitlow372
      @michaelwhitlow372 4 года назад

      He spoke like a true Illinoian, out the wrong end.

  • @mikefata6692
    @mikefata6692 7 лет назад +42

    "wait a little longer, and they'll be more people in here"
    Sure, once all the urban explorers and abandoned youtubers take over when this place closes up.

    • @jewwy5872
      @jewwy5872 7 лет назад +2

      EXPLORING ABANDONED HAUNTED AIRPORT *3AM* *OUIJA BOARD* *GONE WILD* *ALMOST KILLED* *DEMON SPOTTED*

    • @satyampatel491
      @satyampatel491 7 лет назад

      Mike Fata Lambert airport is actually really busy now; they got cheap prices and their parking lots are always filled. They are now pending for expansions of the terminals

    • @casey9559
      @casey9559 4 года назад

      Another 18 years later, record number of passengers flew from this airport today.
      How many?
      5

  • @julianmx13
    @julianmx13 4 года назад +9

    I guess the plans with this airport never took off 🥴

  • @osamehammadi9167
    @osamehammadi9167 4 года назад +59

    They can park 737 Max there.

    • @user-wm2tw
      @user-wm2tw 4 года назад +2

      Osame Hammadi .... Fk off.

    • @mirzaahmed6589
      @mirzaahmed6589 4 года назад +4

      They can't. They're not allowed to fly anywhere, and thus they must be stored in Renton, WA, where they're made. Not even ferry flights are allowed.

    • @ScottRothsroth0616
      @ScottRothsroth0616 4 года назад

      nightstalker Boeing ran out of space at the plant; I do not know why no ferry flights is mentioned since the aircraft (to my knowledge the answer is with permission from the aviation regulator with jurisdiction the aircraft would be allowed to fly) are owned by the manufacture (in this case Boeing), they would be allowed to fly for(I believe) repositioning.

  • @stephenmcmullen7600
    @stephenmcmullen7600 8 лет назад +17

    Why isn't anyone reporting the MASSIVE waste of TAXPAYER MONEY ($ 2 BILLION) on the W-1-W runway ..... that is not being used hardly at all....... This at Lambert St. Louis airport.

    • @illdirtfarmer
      @illdirtfarmer 7 лет назад

      Yes, this should have been in the story. The Lambert expansion happened years after this under utilized air port was build. Making any future of Mid America just a dream.

  • @henriktiger9073
    @henriktiger9073 4 года назад +23

    Recommendations be like:
    2015: nope
    2016: nope
    2017: nope
    2018: nope
    2019: nope
    December 2019: Y’ll ready for this?

    • @alexdelacruz3543
      @alexdelacruz3543 4 года назад

      @Jeffrey Epstein you must be getting a-lot of old video recommendations as well then..

  • @chillywilliedfw9093
    @chillywilliedfw9093 4 года назад +42

    St. Louis is never going to be a Major layover destination when you could stop in Chicago or Dallas. Fly United stop in Chiago, Southwest Dallas, American Airlines Dallas etc. Where was the dire need or demand for this🤔 I used to live in Chicago and now live in NW Dallas between Love Field and DFW these cities are just better equipped with more sound infrastructures.

    • @mikebronicki6978
      @mikebronicki6978 4 года назад +4

      The report clearly stated that the dire demand stemmed from TWA using St.Louis as a hub.

    • @deangelolaws3938
      @deangelolaws3938 4 года назад +2

      @Matthew Shields that's what I'm guessing

    • @muzikdude1188
      @muzikdude1188 4 года назад

      St. Louis was a major air travel hub during the last half of the 20th century. All of that came to an end when TWA went bankrupt. Plans for Mid-America Airport had been in existence since the 1970s, but by the time it was finally built it was no longer needed.

  • @writerconsidered
    @writerconsidered 4 года назад +2

    You have to admit from a passenger standpoint this is a dream airport. Nice leisurely drive to the airport, easy parking wherever you want, a leisurely stroll into the airport. Get to relax all the way up to security and they are probably more relaxed in this easy airport. And meander up to your gate, pick any seat you want and lastly a nice easy boarding onto your plane. This is airport paradise.

  • @lefty62258
    @lefty62258 8 лет назад +9

    someone should do a recent report on this place (maybe someone has). Allegiant now flies to florida 4-5 times a week and vegas on Monday and Thursday (or Friday depends on what time of year). parking lot is almost full all week long as is a free parking lot and even talks of expanding the lot to have more parking.

  • @BlueYup
    @BlueYup Год назад +2

    I used to work for a contractor for Allegiant Air at Destin-Fort Walton Beach airport in Florida, and a pretty significant chunk of our passengers came from this airport - multiple flights per day in the summer months and a flight every day we flew in the slow winter months. While it seems comical that the airport director said the investment wasn't a mistake at the time the airport seemed dead, he eventually was right, lol.

  • @emmy4030
    @emmy4030 4 года назад +7

    There's quite a few "ghost hospitals" too. One built in monroe county a couple years ago and has never been open.

  • @EphemeralProductions
    @EphemeralProductions 7 лет назад +7

    So in other words, this airport was a victim of 9/11. :\ The reason it was made was to ease the burden on Lambert Airport, but 9/11 made TWA flip over and disappear, stopping the burden on Lambert and therefore takin away the need for this airport. So it was a victim of 9/11, basically.

    • @JohnLee-ue6gy
      @JohnLee-ue6gy 7 лет назад

      Mid-America has problems distinct from 9/11. Perhaps if Lambert were somehow so stuffed with flights, people would begrudgingly accept overflow flights out of there. But, Mascoutah is further out than a suburb, further even than an exurb. Lambert is metropolitan adjacent and tied into light rail. So most of the St.L metro area is 20 minutes or less from the facility, and most of that area is 5-8 miles at most, often much less, from a Metrolink stop that will take them there.
      Mascoutah is across the river, through East St. Louis and 25 additional miles out into the croplands to the middle of nowhere [relatively].
      I don't know how popular it is as a departure site for Metro East residents [Belleville, Edwardsville, Fairview, etc], but for the city from the Mississipi river west, it might as well be halfway to Chicago. MoF, between the time to travel to Mid-America and all the pre-board procedure, you would probably drive into Chicago city limits before your flight would land at Midway or O'Hare.

  • @timothyadcock5103
    @timothyadcock5103 4 года назад +8

    I landed there once in a light plane and paid a fifty cent landing fee. I did my part.

  • @bill52600
    @bill52600 4 года назад +1

    If you look at the data since this video was published the airport's ridership actually increased significantly:
    2014 31,340 Increase 18.47%
    2015 62,730 Increase 100.16%
    2016 157,433 Increase 150.97%
    2017 245,028 Increase 55.64%
    2018 302,409 Increase 23.42%
    2019 thru July 202,013

  • @olafschlammbeutel
    @olafschlammbeutel 7 лет назад +15

    BER: hold my beer ....

    •  4 года назад +1

      6 billion $...

    • @ScottRothsroth0616
      @ScottRothsroth0616 4 года назад

      BER=Berlin Brandenburg Airport

  • @CMooreParzival
    @CMooreParzival 4 года назад +2

    I’m a simple man, I see ghost airport, I click on the video

  • @alphandaghan7404
    @alphandaghan7404 4 года назад +11

    In Turkey we have “ghost airports” almost in every city, what a waste of money :((((

  • @adasterdezaster2865
    @adasterdezaster2865 4 года назад +1

    We had a customer who kept his PC12 here. He was the only customer on the field.

  • @jamesricker3997
    @jamesricker3997 4 года назад +11

    While Chicago's O'Hare Airport is overcrowded

    • @midnightrun5622
      @midnightrun5622 4 года назад +4

      Unfortunately, the Chicago area is a good 280 miles away from this airport.

    • @austinlawler3739
      @austinlawler3739 4 года назад +5

      Right, but this is almost a five hour drive from Chicago. Not to mention O'Hare is in the middle of an 8 billion dollar upgrade which includes dozens of new gates, a new terminal, and expansion of others.

    • @austinlawler3739
      @austinlawler3739 4 года назад +1

      @Big Wheel Midway is at capacity, and is in the top 30 busiest airports in the US. It is in between Reagan and Tampa airports for how busy it is. It is the largest hub for South West, and they use over 80% of the gates. Plus Midway is completely surrounded by developments, and three major roads. It is impossible to expand it.

  • @alexsweet8585
    @alexsweet8585 3 года назад +2

    Building that airport got Scott AFB off of the list of closures and saved the local economy.

  • @leannestrong1000
    @leannestrong1000 7 лет назад +11

    How about turning it into a flight museum.

    • @DarkSideMaceWindu
      @DarkSideMaceWindu 7 лет назад +3

      Leanne Strong not a terrible idea considering the Air Force Base on the other side of the runway, but it isn't as unused as this report wants to make it seem.

  • @fishermanclow3386
    @fishermanclow3386 4 года назад +2

    I could say that this place has definitely improved in the last 4 years. I live like 3 minutes away from this airport and I could see about 7-10 planes coming in and leaving every day. This place is a cheap way to travel in the US but since there are are more people traveling, the service sucks and delays are very frequent.

  • @filkster
    @filkster 7 лет назад +7

    Turn a profit? It's a municipal facility which should never make a profit, any excess revenue should reduce taxpayer burden.

  • @AustenDavid
    @AustenDavid 4 года назад +2

    I’ve used it a few times and you only have to get there 30 minutes before your flight because no one is there 😂

  • @TXnine7nine
    @TXnine7nine 4 года назад +4

    0:03 I don’t think anyone was expecting this to become “one of the nations busiest airports” 😂

    • @colincopland3665
      @colincopland3665 4 года назад

      It makes sense as a cargo airport.
      Not so much for passengers, though.

    • @mason9879
      @mason9879 4 года назад

      It was meant to be build up more. They stopped when Pan Am and TWA went belly over.

  • @dannyvisualstv
    @dannyvisualstv 4 года назад +1

    media doesnt talk about the 2 planes arriving every sunday at 2am while 4 black cars show up and load boxes into the cars, but its none of my business.

  • @tiopaco420
    @tiopaco420 4 года назад +4

    Berlin Brandenburg Airport: “Hold my beer”

  • @danielmcgrane5698
    @danielmcgrane5698 3 года назад +1

    And here in 2021, the airport is expanding to 4 gates with the likely addition of a crew base from Allegiant. Breeze has been rumored to be looking at BLV as well.

  • @ermdzakir4334
    @ermdzakir4334 4 года назад +40

    I think its a war time airport

    • @jja1483
      @jja1483 4 года назад

      MD ZAKIR SAUDAGAR it's probably used to smuggle 💊😂

    • @paulwalker1443
      @paulwalker1443 3 года назад

      Interesting response, and perhaps an intelligent one. Who knows what the US Defense Department is doing to prepare for a future war...keeping these open for security reasons...not out of the question.

  • @PDBowden16
    @PDBowden16 4 года назад +1

    This reminds me of Montréal Mirabel Airport and how it was supposed to replace Dorval and it was such a huge area of land and it didn’t attract any passengers and it closed to passenger services in 2004.

  • @onetorino
    @onetorino 7 лет назад +5

    And now Illinois is upside down... I wonder why... Central planners using taxpayer funding always know best.

  • @agoniaXdunya
    @agoniaXdunya 4 года назад +7

    Why can’t I get a layover there instead all of these crazy places

    • @DustDevilRage
      @DustDevilRage 4 года назад

      You can have it. Looks like a dirt hole with dirt hole hotels.

  • @boiii3productions945
    @boiii3productions945 4 года назад +9

    Mid America should be for budget airlines and lambert should be full service

  • @DavidLLambertmobile
    @DavidLLambertmobile 4 года назад +1

    Rep John Murtha, D-PA got 💲💲💲 for a small Intl ✈ airport in western PA that few people use. Its fully staffed with 24hr TSA, Air Marshals, support. They run around 2-3 🛩 a day!

  • @lotto5742
    @lotto5742 4 года назад +7

    Meanwhile, California is spending $300 million on a homeless shelter.

    • @tizocalonzo7652
      @tizocalonzo7652 4 года назад +1

      lotto That is a good thing.

    • @v12tommy
      @v12tommy 4 года назад +1

      @@tizocalonzo7652 You're right. Everyone else should send their rejects out west to be California's problem. They seem to want them.

    • @tizocalonzo7652
      @tizocalonzo7652 4 года назад +1

      v12tommy Why are you calling people down on their luck "rejects"? Surely you're not stereotyping a homeless person while not knowing the real reason why each individual person is homeless.

    • @TheFiscallySound
      @TheFiscallySound 4 года назад

      @@tizocalonzo7652 most are homeless by personal choice and drug issues.

  • @rogerp4564
    @rogerp4564 4 года назад

    This news report is old. While not an insanely busy airport- Since 2012, the airport has recorded a more than 7,000% increase in annual passenger traffic, and is now flying several hundred thousand passengers.

  • @bmc9504
    @bmc9504 4 года назад +5

    Maybe there's plans for it we aren't allow to know about, plenty of airports like this worldwide kept open for no reason.

  • @IcemanJuice
    @IcemanJuice 4 года назад

    $300 million could have been spent wayyyyyy better. And they say poor people are bad with money, who was the decision maker on this airport?

  • @kg7yts187
    @kg7yts187 7 лет назад +5

    Use it for private flights and general aviation, charge $50/mo for parking and hey, it should break even quickly.

    • @kylecampbell1444
      @kylecampbell1444 7 лет назад +2

      KG7YTS If youngster money for a private jet tour going to go closer to downtown.

    • @DarkSideMaceWindu
      @DarkSideMaceWindu 7 лет назад

      It's a public airport, andy non regularly scheduled commercial aviation is welcome to use it.

  • @TheElementkp555
    @TheElementkp555 4 года назад

    as a resident of illinois, we do nothing better than spend millions of taxpayers money on useless and irrelavent things. we should get an award.

  • @lindat5784
    @lindat5784 9 лет назад +6

    i remember reading about this airport years ago, still nothing done???

    • @brickman409
      @brickman409 7 лет назад +5

      Well, what would they do now? Tear it down? That would just waste even more tax money.

  • @TyudroWymoreEdgartyu2
    @TyudroWymoreEdgartyu2 4 года назад +2

    I thought this was an Onion article.

  • @FSXNOOB
    @FSXNOOB 7 лет назад +16

    Just make it cheap, lowcost airlines will come for sure :)

    • @quinnjim
      @quinnjim 7 лет назад +2

      No they won't. It's an airport in the distant suburbs of St. Louis.

    • @DarkSideMaceWindu
      @DarkSideMaceWindu 7 лет назад +1

      Lowcost airlines still need a reason to go. They aren't adding a destination if there is no demand.

    • @machintrucGaming
      @machintrucGaming 7 лет назад

      Someone said earlier that the problem was fixed

    • @christophergonzalez5552
      @christophergonzalez5552 7 лет назад

      quinnjim That's exactly what makes it cheap. An airport that's very well populated like JFK in New York is so much more expensive

    • @elaineblackhurst1509
      @elaineblackhurst1509 5 лет назад +1

      You need some from Europe. UK. People would probably use it to see your lovely country We do Virgin and United all from my local airport Manchester England. I think you need someone like Richard Branson interested to promote it

  • @leeluv96
    @leeluv96 4 года назад

    A lot of people don't know that Detroit has an airport. A lot of citizens don't even know. Not the International Metro Airport, that's in Romulus, not actually IN Detroit. Detroit City airport is still in operation but now it's mostly private fights and secret flights. Many investors begged the city to expand to international flights but the city stuck with domestic and so the metro airport was built on Romulus farm land, many families became rich over night, and the City Airport began it's decline. Missed opportunities.

  • @casey9559
    @casey9559 4 года назад +15

    Of course it was a mistake, any business that isn't breaking even is a mistake. 18 years of loss, MiStAkE

    • @mapmoney1898
      @mapmoney1898 4 года назад +4

      Well actually in the short run you should still operate if your making a loss (not breaking even) if the revenue covers all of the fixed costs and part of the variable costs. Then, in the long run you will decide to leave or remain in business.

    • @juanramon2790
      @juanramon2790 4 года назад +1

      Mapmoney that microeconomics course paid off huh

  • @brandonsavitski
    @brandonsavitski 4 года назад +1

    If Chicago's so busy how come they just have more flights go there instead? I don't understand the entire situation or the intricacies involved. I know Chicago is a major hub. Why isn't St. Louis Lambert and this Mid America Airport turned into a hub? Have domestic and international flights fly in and out of both of these airports.

  •  4 года назад +4

    Airport Berlin Brandenburg (BER):
    I'm joke to you?
    We would be happy if it had only cost 300 mio and it would be open!

    • @Cody-Bear
      @Cody-Bear 4 года назад

      300 mio? What's mio?

  • @jackson5116
    @jackson5116 4 года назад

    Just so people know, yes, it's in Illinois, but it's in the *St Louis* metropolitan region, and this airport was intended to be the St Louis version of Midway that Chicago has.

  • @andym8533
    @andym8533 7 лет назад +2

    It still takes 2 hours to go through security!

    • @casey9559
      @casey9559 4 года назад

      😂 Bet you the flight andendants get to do the announcements and Safety stuff personally also they're having fun because they won't have to do much with like an average of

  • @willbygosh4887
    @willbygosh4887 11 месяцев назад

    It's busy now,just took a long time to take off!!Build it and they will eventually come!

  • @davidtriana
    @davidtriana 7 лет назад +39

    The county that owns it should just sell it to a private aviation company. They will make it profitable. As long as the Government is involved in anything, It WILL fail.

    • @davecrupel2817
      @davecrupel2817 7 лет назад +8

      DAVID TRIANA It is an airport. The FAA *HAS* to be involved with its activity in some form or another.

    • @mahmudadam7480
      @mahmudadam7480 7 лет назад +2

      Idiot republicans like you are trained to hate the government no matter what.

    • @quinnjim
      @quinnjim 7 лет назад +2

      David....no private company would spend $300 million on a project that would obviously lose money. Only the government pays for stuff like this.

    • @itsharris2345
      @itsharris2345 7 лет назад +4

      DAVID TRIANA actually, it's been booming heavily.

    • @satyampatel491
      @satyampatel491 7 лет назад +1

      Well guess what, the Government made that airport a major success now. It is now a crowded airport pending for expansions

  • @zayjackindustires
    @zayjackindustires 4 года назад

    19,000 people in a year? Wow, what a huge piece of the local economy!

  • @Auragamis
    @Auragamis 7 лет назад +2

    18 years of no profit

  • @jasonmartin1267
    @jasonmartin1267 3 года назад +1

    Mid America is great for our summer trips. You can avoid north stl which is dangerous and has to be drove thru to reach lambert

  • @bxwx7824
    @bxwx7824 7 лет назад +4

    Maybe have concerts, or soccer games, marathons for charities.

  • @terrancewicks4079
    @terrancewicks4079 3 года назад +1

    I flew into there last Summer and it was cool and quick.

  • @ionly6805
    @ionly6805 4 года назад +3

    Somebody got rich off this scam

  • @johnwoods9380
    @johnwoods9380 4 года назад +1

    Sounds like good location for a theme park. "We have our own airport".

  • @Medicranger
    @Medicranger 7 лет назад +6

    It would make a nice space-port

  • @healthdios
    @healthdios 7 лет назад +3

    don't believe everything they say in this video, I live near this airport and I agree it looks empty at times but, there's a lot of comercial/cargo flights in and out constantly out of its runways, a couple of importing and exporting warehouses next door as well. And like any other airport, holiday seasons always bring travelers up whenever the main hubs spill over their extra passengers.Also, with the airforce base next to it, you'll see a lot of their tarmac in use some times....
    besides, this is a southern Illinois suburb. ..we like it quiet here.

  • @eap1234
    @eap1234 4 года назад +4

    Aight see ya in 5 years when we get this again

  • @nazyork
    @nazyork 4 года назад +1

    This airport is now busier why was this recommended by youtube years later?

  • @ErnestJay88
    @ErnestJay88 8 лет назад +42

    Who need welfare, free education, or free healthcare, or fixing infrastructure, just built a new Airport that's nobody fly, am i right ?

    • @marlonmoncrieffe0728
      @marlonmoncrieffe0728 7 лет назад +13

      Ernest Jay
      Nobody needs welfare.
      I'd rather a useless airport than extra welfare.

    • @CrazyRoadblockisbae
      @CrazyRoadblockisbae 7 лет назад +8

      IngeniousFirefly Why? Because he can work a job?

    • @davilip
      @davilip 7 лет назад +5

      Because he's heartless and has no empathy.

    • @marlonmoncrieffe0728
      @marlonmoncrieffe0728 7 лет назад +7

      Ross Gannon
      Nope. I have plenty of heart and empathy.
      I'm just smart enough to know that welfare has never alleviated poverty. It doesn't work.
      Quite the opposite; it makes things worse.

    • @linusmlgtips2123
      @linusmlgtips2123 7 лет назад +1

      Marlon Moncrieffe Sorry bud, but people need it to survive. Get a life

  • @kathykarlas9414
    @kathykarlas9414 4 года назад +1

    When was this shot? I have flown out of the airport over the last two years now and this is the year 2020. There were lots of people and flights at that time. I thought it was a great airport.