How New York's Airports Handle More Than 3,000 Flights Per Day - NYC Revealed
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- Опубликовано: 19 янв 2022
- New York's three closest airports move 140 million people in and out of the most visited place in the United States. But these three travel hubs were not designed to handle this growing number of visitors. Here’s how New York's airports are evolving to handle one of the most complex airspaces on Earth.
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I am frustrated. The thumbnail looked like this would be about managing NYC airspace.
I agree
Seconding this. What they described was fascinating but not accurate to the video’s title.
Same
Same. I was expecting a full fledge ATC video.
Yeah this was more like a glorified ad
Lol this felt like a Discovery Channel documentary from the early 2000s, did Cheddar go and poach their staff
Look like they reformatted one of those and rebranded it under Cheddar News...
It also feels like they brought the voice of "how it's made" to do the voiceover
Kyounee huggbees
💀💀 so true!
@@Echoleon I was going to say the same thing. "How It's Made: New York Airports Edition".
It's the "most complex airspace" but we didn't talk about airspace we talked about groundspace
Yeah. Lots of butt kissing of the TSA and overspending on creepy x-ray robots and weird nostalgia bait hotels... So all the travelers they delay the flights if (~40%) have a weird place to stay.
Can we get a part 2 by Wendover Productions? We want the ENTIRE overview with DETAILS about every aspect please
yea this video felt kinda weird? there pacing sorta felt artificial with the random bits of music and history-channel narration...
If “half as interesting” were to do a video also
Yeah, Wendover is so great
Glad someone else felt the same way. I'd love to learn more about the robotics handling luggage.
Honestly Wendover does the better aviation videos.
Wait a second. For a moment I thought this was Wendover Productions.
Airports and highways get unlimited subsidies, but passenger rail is required to pay their own way.
well that bill in congrass now is full of pork for failing dem states like NY
@@jamescollier3 lol, "failing Dem states"? You realize that states like California and New York have economies that are larger than some countries around the world? What a completely baseless and asinine claim. 🤦🏽♀️
@@kb8170 New York is close to bankruptcy to the tune of $50k per person.
@@jamescollier3 New York has 60% the gdp of the 5th largest economy alone
@@jamescollier3 I can't wait to move to the prosperous GOP states of Kentucky, Mississippi, Alabama, Louisiana, and West Virginia 😉
what we need is a 300mph rail link between Washington DC, NY and Boston
What nooo that would cost to much! *proceeds to invest billions of dollars in massive airports*
@@pimmemaster6173 we just need to get these old fools out of Congress
@@pimmemaster6173 Because mass of airports are better because I can fly across the world what a train can only take me to a few cities on the coast where is it’s possible and barely even maybe take me to Toronto?
@@titanicbigship What do you expect? With no investment, there is no infrastructure. You may not see it, but a cargo has more rail options to get around mainland USA than passengers.
@@titanicbigship you sir need to take a look at train lines in europa
A convenient, affordable transportation system like Newark has to Penn Station would help tremendously. One could pick from all three instead of whatever one is the least pain in the butt to use.
There is a proposal to update Airtrain EWR but what they ought to do is bring the PATH train to the terminals.
@@stevenroshni1228 and can add a stop at South ST Newark as well
JFK has the airtrain to LIRR (to Penn) which is the equivalent to the Air-train to NJT the only difference is they don’t bundle the fares like newark
the issue is that the train tunnels under the hudson are already at capacity, so an extra line being added is extremely unlikely
@@stevenroshni1228 this is the better and more realistic idea
Literally working on terminal e going up right now for delta. It’s an amazing project. I’m lucky enough to get to see behind the scenes.
Wow, what kind of work are you doing on this project? It seems so interesting!; I'm jealous!
Bullshit lies
@@skeetrix5577 little toxic virgin gamer being so jealous?? 👶👶🤣🤣🤣🤣
You're walking* ? Through terminal B?
@@RainbowFlowerCrow local 3 electrician it’s a lot of different things mostly electrical work
i thought i had two videos open simlataneoulsy by mistake, turns out it's just that the background music is so louder than needed
the problem is that LGA, EWR, and JFK are too big to be that close together in terms of airspace
SVO, VKO, DME and ZIA would laugh
This should have a product placement notice. Nothing but a puff piece for New York airports.
This video and *narrator* looks and sounds like the old Discovery Channel documentaries that would air each night, before they changed to Duck Dynasty or whatever. Makes sense that it's done in partnership with CuriosityStream, which was founded by the creator of the Discovery Channel, who was saddened how its new owners ruined the channel.
Scrolled literally to find someone with the same thought
I thought I would be the only one
Learned something new today. Thank you. When I still had my satellite subscription and watched mythbusters, my problem with the show was the stupidity of spending another minute or so doing a recap of something after the 4-minute break. I NEVER watched the show live, I always recorded it, and then FF through the commercials. I guess I should be lucky I haven't had the subscription for over 10 years. Also, let's not forget the huge logo on the screen (of course all channels do it, so it was the race to the bottom for that habit).
Does CuriosityStream put their logo on the screen during the shows? I have always felt if I am paying a separate charge for something (a la HBO back in the day), it was a premium channel and must not have ads or crap on the screen. I don't know if the new channels that are out there these days slap their logos on the screen, but I am not going to pay for it. It's why I love netflix and amazon prime video (the real prime, not their free-with-ads channels).
@Zaydan Naufal Here in the States there used to be (and it might still be around, I don't know) a weekly publication that one subscribed to and it was mailed to one's home or you bought it at the newstand. It was called TV GUIDE. Or you would scroll through the online channel guide. Now, in the channel guide, sure there would be a logo and name. No problem with that. So once you saw what you wanted to watch, you select that channel and you start watching. My complaint is that during the actual showing of the content the logo is displayed. It blocks the view of the picture and is annoying (to me at least, since I am old enough to remember what it was like seeing just the content). Some channels also slap on-screen text such as promos for upcoming episodes or other items.
I do love my Netflix and Amazon Prime Video subscriptions as there are no logos and no on-screen text when you watch the content from them.
@Zaydan Naufal Does your cable provider or satellite provider have an on-screen channel list that you can scroll through? If not, then yes, I agree that having logos on the screen during the content being shown is helpful.
This looks like a Cheddar video but it sounds like a How It’s Made episode
Lol at the "talks of a rail link." I live right off a Metro stop in DC, and it's awesome being able to just hop on the same system I use to get anywhere else and go to Reagan National (and they're currently wrapping up an extention to Dulles, so both DC airports will soon be connected to the entire DC Metro system). When I want to go somewhere or someone visits me they just hop on the train and show up at my apartment like half an hour later and it only costs them a few dollars. It's far from perfect, but I'm honestly surprised to hear that with how large NYC's rail system is that that link doesn't exist.
You can get to JFK by subway and air train. I have done it. It just takes forever because the airport is so far away. DC and New York aren’t really comparable just like Reagan and JFK aren’t really comparable. DC is a comparatively tiny city and Reagan is a small national airport. New York’s airports are actually extremely far away from the city downtown mileage wise bc the city is so large.
You also have MARC Penn Line linking (not directly but via shuttle) to BWI from 30 minute to/from DC
Very cool, just like the golden Era of TLC shows. Great to see how the airports work, I thought it was about how the three airports handle flights together. I'd love to see how that many planes and dealt with
Who on earth edited this video? Not the pace or quality I expect from Cheddar. Feels like something from a cable channel in 2007.
I find your videos always interesting but with the last couple of videos it seems like the background music is louder and a bit distracting. It makes it harder to follow all the information you are trying to communicate. Maybe dail it down a bit?
Repeatedly
"look how horrible this airport is!"
*shows one of the most beautiful airport images ever*
Being a NYer and flying out of LGA all the time, I am glad to see the renovations taking place. It was desperately needed.
I don't know why but this new narrator makes it sound cheaper
It is it’s just some cheap voice over
If ever drive on the jersey turnpike by Newark airport you can usually see 2-4 planes lined up in the sky to land. Shows you how busy the airport is
Newark is a bad airport with a poor layout.
If I controlled airspace I’d just tell all the pilots to wing it 😎
I miss discovery Channel guy, glad to see today he is back
So basically this is just a weird ad
I've legitimately wondered this for so long, especially with LaGuardia and JFK being so close. Thank you Cheddar!
while i liked the video, it didn't really get into the complexities of the airspace... did it?
it mostly dealt with the subpar airports.
The times that I have flown into and out of New York's airports (maybe 8 years ago and before that), it was really quite a contrast when you compare it to the main hubs in Europe, the Middle East and Asia. An improvement was much needed and good to see that it's happening!!
Here in Singapore there's a huge contrast in passenger experience between arriving by air (via the world-reknowed _Changi_ Airport or the smaller _Seletar_ one that's quite new but more susceptible to weather disruptions as Malaysia is nearby & didn't want us to install an ILS system, claiming it's impose significant building height limits on them) vs by rail (where the long-distance station (Woodlands Train Checkpoint) is a bus transfer (which reportedly can skip your stop sometimes due to congestion) plus a 50min subway/metro ride to downtown) or by coach (with most services going to the decrepit Golden Mile Complex & Tower, with its choked toilets & heavily oxidised false ceilings (some which collapsed over the taxi stand several months ago) that's also had a reputation for sleeze with its nightclubs). The arriving experience by ferry is somewhere in-between though we were embarrassed previously where a cruise ship (either the Queen Mary or Elizabeth) had to dock at our container port ( _Pasir Panjang_ ) because our passenger terminal then was too small. That led to the Marina Bay Cruise Centre being built at the corner of our coastline, but even after adding a train station that's still some 600m away (probably to save on the cost of tunnelling that terminus station's overrun track under the sea if it was sited closer)
Orlando just redid their terminal A to add art and get more people in and out. Every 10 years we get a new airport design that works. The old cafeteria is gone and a nice modern one is up. The aquariums weren’t there until the update. Our terminal B is getting a makeover soon as construction is still happening and a new CEO of the airport. We got some better lighting as it was so dark before now it nice.
Want to instantly double the public perception of NYC airports? Extend the subway all the way to JFK and LGA. The fact that the biggest and one of the most complex subway networks in the world doesn't go to the airport has always blown my mind.
And yes, I know JFK has a connection, but you have to transfer to the airtrain and all of the terminals aren't connected. That doesn't count.
That’s the one thing I hate about JFK - if you have to change terminals, you have to go through security again.
All the terminals in JFK are connected by the AirTrain
The subway already connect to JFK (A) train
The thumbnail leads us to believe that this vid is about how New York deals with the crowded airspace above them. But instead it just talks about cosmetic changes to the terminals themselves. Nothing very interesting in this one. Sorry Cheddar.
Small correction, N90 New York TRACON isn't a tower. It's a rather nondescript building on Long Island with the controllers sitting in front of radar scopes. It also deals with far more airports then shown, 40+ in total. Teterboro and Farmingdale for example.
As a radar controller, thank you for calling this out!
OMG, this style of narration with music makes me feel like I'm watching US tv. I can't focus. :/
Yeah it’s basic
This is an AD for New York Airports. It works just fine. It's not SUBPAR or anything. There's simply TOO MANY people going through it. Send that traffic further inland and south and they'll be fine
I feel like I’m watching “How it’s Made”
Here's how you can fix these airport problems,
1. have a metro line from a major city built into the airport. it's a major hassle as well as a nightmare for people driving to and from the airport. a subway would make it easier for customers as well as give them time to relax after their flight.
2. At least have a 300 room hotel built nearby an airport in case flight delays or overnight stays, especially when customers cannot stay in the airport like in africa or the middle east.
The A train goes to JFK.
@@godofthisshit well now i know and thank you :)
Fun fact, the ceiling of the TWA building used to be coated with asbestos until it was removed in 2008-2009
Great work yall! , Amazing video as always
Background music and sound effects are both too loud
This felt like some mid 2000’s airport operations docu-series
lol "supersonic plane flying from NY to London"
Concorde: did that in the sixties
I didn't know my home airports are getting this fancy,I'm proud.I haven't flown on commercial aircraft in a very long time.
If only America would invest in trains. Taking the slack off domestic flights would solve all of these problems. The worst thing you can do for your mental health as an American is visit Europe and see their public transport and cycle/walkability.
You have better food, social services, etc. as well. Thanks
@@Rhaman68 Food is debatable, as Americans might moan the smaller portion sizes.
And to assure airlines, form an air-rail alliance. Deutsche Bahn does this with American Airlines, Emirates, and Lufthansa.
Once you see the gas prices in Europe that'll fix that. If we paid $10 a gallon like the Netherlands we'd be riding bikes too.
@@seanthe100 Not necessarily, the infrastructure should be available first before Americans start cycling. The issue of cars is more because it is the only option than being cheap to operate.
What New York needs to do is have a tram system between JFK and LGA. The disgusting unions and taxi companies keep fighting it. The two airports need to be connected by tram. Using buses would not work. The roads between LGA and JFK are way way to congested.
Doesn't even have to be a tram. Even a reliable bus service will do. Even better is a metro system with dedicated right-of-way.
The Narator voice & opening panoramic of NYC brings me back to early 2010s watching discovery.. Damn was that some good time
This is so interesting! Thanks for uploading this video! :)
The video editor should make music in video much more louder, I am hearing to some human voices. ;) Why Americans adds so much music to videos.?.
I went through one of the updated terminals at Newark in 2018 with United and it was really bright and clean
tbh, I wish Amtrak didn't suck so much and had more lines to more places. A lot of ppl would choose to come here by Train if they had the option (trains are just better than flying in every way), but Amtrak, with its slow speeds, limited access, and high price makes flying the default choice.
We could continue to build bigger and fancier airports, but a train station can handle way more ppl way quicker and with way less land use. And for crying the fuck out loud, why isn't the subway connected to the airports!?
You realize most tracks are owned my freight railroad were their trains are prioritized over amtrak the only tracks amtrak owns is new Rochelle to NYC and NYC to Washington also NH to Boston. The only agreement is the price.
Did you just suggest trains have less land use? That train needs tracks to run over. That is a LOT of land. And no, people wouldn't choose to come to New York by train. Lets say someone is from the second largest city in the USA, Los Angeles, and wants to visit New York City. If you take the fastest train on the planet and give it a straight line to New York City, carving right through the three different mountain ranges on your path, and negating the biggest benefit of trains by not making a single stop once-so-ever, your ride would take just under 8 hours. A normal Boeing 737 can get you there in around 4 hours. And the 737 is competing against a dozen other jets while making a profit charging you $50.
@Zaydan Naufal Space efficiency is the main reason why American freight rail works so well. It would be better if applicable to passenger rail as well.
@Zaydan Naufal Plus, air-rail alliance can be formed to combine the best of air and rail travel. Deutsche Bahn does this with American Airlines, Emirates, and Lufthansa.
As a pilot I say the same. Why not fly in with a ticket that tags in with amtrak. Instead of the 20 minute regional flight that gets delayed for 2 hours all the time
Oof, that bounced landing at 5:11...
That introduction reminded me of how it's made
Hey, it's the voice from How It's Made!
Good content, but this video was 30% how the flights are handled, 70% talk about renovations/upgrades to the old airports.
I'd say more like 10/90. Very disappointing.
@@tncookies agreed, I was being generous lol
Nice L-1011 at the beginning!
I saw the TWA lounge bit and internally thought shame such a building has gone, but you just can't keep this buildings near a airport. Then I saw that it wasn't only kept, the style of the lobby still have that 50's vibe. Kudos to both New York and the hotel, this will be a landmark building for ages.
UNfortunately, the OTHER fantastic piece of aviation architecture at jfk, the pan am worldport, met a very different fate. It was torn down, I believe in the early 2000s
I agree. They should definitely invest more in places like restaurants within the terminals too. A couple months ago, I was going to take a flight and it departed at 11pm, I arrived at 9 as it was an international flight and the only food option available in terminal 4 was a McDonald's. Such a shame.
@@davidmfriedman That's the reason I thought it was gone, but some great aviation history has been kept, they moved our old airport, Schiphol to a museum in Lelystad. But that's an expensive option not really open to something the size of of Worldport. Going the Berlin Tegel route and turning it in to a park can't be done either. So unfortunate as it is, it's gone.
Mama this guys voice feels like I’m watching How It’s Made or Discovery Channel. Give that guy a raise! 👍🏾
Is it just me or does this sound like the Modern Marvels narrator?
Anyone else wince a little seeing that soft cased guitar @ 3:43
You mean that bag of wood splinters and strings? Yeah, I saw it…
I’m a new subscriber to this channel and it’s such fun! Great work 👏🏽
Excellent.⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐. documentary.well done
God bless everyone.🙏.
Cheddar really downgraded, especially when we cant seen anyone talking. 😂
I remember my Dad sporting a suit and tie as technical support representative for a defense contractor in the 60's departing from the Piedmont or Allegany gates. All I remember of my flights was a plane loaded with recruits headed to Charleston from all areas of the Northeast or being packed into overbooked flights much like cattle being herded into cattle cars.
you've got to love how its made voiced cheddar!
So cool for this to come out when I literally just took off from JFK
This sounds like a 90s documentary
Remember when baggage fees were introduced due to rising fuel costs? How about we get rid of that.
Nice one 👍
I’m still wondering WHY PEOPLE ARE CALLING NEWARK AIRPORT IN NEW YORK.yes it is in New York’s airspace but still hate it when people say newyork Newark airport not NJ.say all you want but I’m from New Jersey so I get pissed when Delaware, Pennsylvania, and New York get the credit and New Jersey is like the guy nobody likes
Thank you it's dum
Strong "how it's made" themes. Same narrator? Love that show
this feels like a how it’s made episode
It isn't LaGordia LaGuardia like 'Gwar' why do people on tv & everywhere always mispronounce this?
Next on Modern Marvels… *insert theme music*
DC is pretty complex too.
I find it interesting how bringing knives and machetes back is fine as long as they are in your luggage under the plane. I’ve brought those back many times from other countries and I’ve never had anything said to me
the song at then end sounds like INTERPOL.
You should do a vid on New York’s many museums
Ok, the baggage robots... I didn't see that coming.
I thought the intro was an ad, I just ignored it lol
That $4 billion has turned into an $8 billion price tag
So about that train project connecting the 7 to an air train to the airport lol
Maybe they should invest in high speed rail for shorter haul routes
The capacity overshoot is nothing compared to the former Berlin airport Tegel (TXL):
Capacity of 2m passengers and 2 years ago just before its shutdown had 25m passengers lmao
so complex that a plane even hit a building in 2001
I was recently booking a flight from New York to Minneapolis for my whole family and they asked, "Why did you book us tickets from JFK instead of LaGuardia?" I said, "Because Newark wasn't a good option for us and I've heard many jokes about LaGuardia being a hellhole but I never heard a similar joke about JFK." They blinked and said, "Yeah, that actually was true up until last month. But now it's no longer true as of two weeks ago." Haha
Narration sounds like a computer trying to sound like a dramatic documentary
It's the quote of " one of the cogs in LGA that actually works " as a former JFK airport employee it's funny to hear someone call lagarbage out lol. If you know you know
Is there a way to get from Newark airport to Manhattan without getting stuck in traffic these days? If not then you have more work to do...
thought we had a new angle in the first few seconds
What about Stewart Field outside of Newburgh? I t was supposed to be a major airport for the NY area.
The title should be "How NYC is renovating it's airports" not "how they handle 3,000 flight per day"
If there's anything to be praised about that airspace, it's their ATC Kennedy Steve. 😙👌 Superb.
What about the Los Angeles area? I thought LaGuardia was getting upgraded?
Can Cheddar bring back Ali Larkin? I like her narration better than this Discovery Channel guy.
ppl went to dine at the airport in the 60s? what a time!
I was told not to go to Laguardia because it’s a pain in the ass Newark may be older but you can find your way around.
speaking of baggage if you don't want stuff lost ship it ups or fedex to your destination and pick it up when you arrive
i know this might not make any sense but it works i know because i've done it just like shipping a package to grama's
Thank you to the hard workers who help get my private jet in and out of the airport every time I fly.
Is this where Rose Weil held her fashion show on the movie of Ocean's 8?
Teterboro, dears, Teterboro!
Do they really “expect their bag will make it,” or is it “they hope their bag makes it?”