Microtech MSI & Stitch with the Ramlok
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- Опубликовано: 10 июл 2024
- MICROTECH KNIVES MSI AND THE MICROTECH STITCH BOTH WITH THE RAMLOK, THIS NEW MICROTECH MODEL FEATURES THEIR NEW STEEL AND THEIR NEW LOCKING SYSTEM THE RAMLOCK THE MICROTECH STITCH AND MSI ARE BOTH MADE IN THE USA.
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I was actually able to grab a Tan MSI today during the drop! This was one of new knives from SS 2023 that I really wanted to get in hand!
Thank you for being one of the only reviewers to review the action; the biggest differentiating factor if one was to pick up this knife
I am feeling both of them . Looking forward to your honest review brother .
Could be a spring tension thing but really like the size and shape of both of them looks good 👍 especially the 🐑 foot blade😀
I definitely like the action on the stitch better for sure , but do likes both knives , they are both very easy to deploy and close with one hand … thanks for the review, looking forward to your more in-depth one about the steel…
It would be nice to see it come with different springs to adjust the lock like Kizer did with its locking system. Still an awesome lock and knife though
I live vicariously through ya Pard. Ya get a knife for you….Your kinda of getting it for me. Can’t add a new grail til I acquire an old one. But these are in the running. Great content J. And I thank ya for it.
They look like very solid knives and the ram Lock has the makings of a robust system. I was excited to see these, but I will probably never own one until they start getting thier heat treats rights. On a cheap knife you can expect suboptimal but for premium prices you should get materials that have the performance to justify that price, I feel the same way about Hinderer knives in that regard. If you just collect and never use that's your choice, but for the ones that do use them it's kind of a ripoff. Thanks for the great vid Jerad and keep making sharp things fun and enjoyable
Ordered a ramlock stitch in tan today from a drop !!!
Can't wait !!!!
Jared please HRC test them, we can understand what you're working with. Not to smear Microtech, only to understand the parameters you will be testing at.
Great overview, first video I've seen of these 2 models. Answered alot of things I wondered.
No they are aweful and many have been rc tested and also cut tested. .. Not good for microtech. They even admit this is how they do it. They are art knives.
@@tacticalcenter8658 you have an agenda.
According to Larrin Thomas, the tweak Bohler added to this version of M390 offers improved edge retention, corrosion resistance and polishability. He concedes it could have increased edge retention if the carbon content was raised, but greater corrosion resistance and polishability are unlikely. Furthermore, all of this could be accomplished by a heat treatment to get a higher optimum hrc. Additionally the MK probably stands for Microtech Knives. Finally, it is very likely that this could be a marketing scheme to create a buzz for some new sexy steel.
i just ordered my MSI and i cant wait for it to get here!
I’ll wait to see if they make some adjustments before I get one
Love the channel. I am 12 years and counting active duty infantry Marine lol
This is my favorite knife of all time.
From me to you though.. I've had this knife since it dropped. The steal linner rusts with light water exposure.
One rainy night caused light rust for me.
The ram lock physically can not handle battoning. Over all very strong on all other aspects.
I'll keep this knife but fixing these 2 problems and making people aware is important.
I plan on finding a 3rd party company to make titanium Linners for this knife.
Blade steel also gooood
Why didn’t they up the HRC? It makes no sense to use m390 and have the performance of 14 c . I think they should up the hrc
Cause they are art knives. They don't know one thing about heat treatment.
So Joe schmoe can sharpen in the field..that's why..
The new manual stitch is way nicer and more practical then the old automatic.
In G10 looks awesome, it would be better also with an acute blade grind.
Overall great evolution.
👍
Imagine a REK regrind on it and a Neeves sharpening! 😍
These are super cool designs. Everyone's been waiting. And now I'm going to say the same thing that everyone else says about the HRC. I'm not saying they won't perform. But that little number means a lot to a lot of people. Myself included. So let's see how they do. Looking forward to your future videos.
Great presentation.
The prior m390 was tested. It was aweful. The new one wouldn't be much different.
Ahhh. Thanks for the heads-up.
@@tacticalcenter8658Can you share what the HRC was on the prior M390 tested? thanks bud
Such a subtle refined ‘bang’ today. 💪🏻💪🏻
Thanks for sharing bud I like the look of both at least but not sure if I’m sold yet
I liked them but your correct. The actions leave quite a bit to be desired.
That spring sitting in the open between the scales gives me pause. Lol, probably get alot of dirt and grime up in there.
That Stitch...frick'n A! 🔥🔥🔥
Love that MSI.
I know they are next to impossible to find , but would really like to see you do a Glykon review.🙏
Interested to see if the spring adjustment works I was wondering that too
Did stretching the spring help the light detent issue? I’d love to know so I can do it to mine if so!
Hmmmm... Intresting designs... I think I'll wait for jerad to test these babies fully and hard and then I might get one
Yeah I will be getting g a ram lok stitch in the future
Nice blade brother 👌
Send one to Pete at Cedric and Ada! I wanna see what this soft 390mk steel can do on his rope test!
Send one to outpost76. Pete doesn't have any good m390 to even compare against.
@@tacticalcenter8658 lol thats prolly true.
On the MSI, it looks like the blade touches the rear of the Ram Lok when closing. Is that so? Also, my Stitch Ram Lok makes a fairly loud “metal on metal” sound when closing. Having taken one apart, can you explain what that is? As long as the sharpened edge is contacting metal, I’m fine with the noise it makes. I love both knives (got both of mine in OD also;-}). Thanks! MM
I would love a stitch!
Looks like a much more refined axis lock.
They look great probably expensive and no reason why I like my bestech Toucan I'll keep mine plus mine is purple!
Waiting for this hard use review... will the lock develope blade play or not? gonna be interesting
Awesome looking knives! I am curious about the Price. The Stitch Auto was a little pricey so a manual should be more affordable.
Reminds me of the Spyderco Manix 2
Heck yeah, I want one of those MSI's. USA-made🦅, great materials, rad blade shape, cool profile, and an interesting take on the ball/axis lock with that RAM-LOK. Can't go wrong here!
Thanks for the in-depth look at this one, dude!
This is the way
Really like that more usa made companies are coming out with new knives and with this being the new hot knife makes me want one. But realistically thinking am I going to want to carry this or my 15 maxix 2 knifes. Thicker geometry and iffy ht from MT makes these knives as a cool new knife but not a knife I'd carry over others.
The gas station grip!!!!!! 😂😂😂😂😂 that’s awesome!!!!
Haters gonna hate! Loving my Frag MSI!
@neevesknives the interview that smkw did with microtech about it. The guy said it's the same m390. They just changed it so it would polish better
Innovation like a Benchmade Anthem from years ago. 😂
What? No prices available?
I like the idea. I wish the blade length is a bit shorter
Man I keep missing all the drops on these hell I woulda even grabbed one of the full serrated stitches if I coulda today. Can't do 50/50 blades.... Just can't. I'm sure they're pumping these as fast as they can, just gotta wait 🤷🏻♂️
I'd like microtech a whole lot more if I didn't have to pay 20%-50% over msrp to a reseller for one of their production knives
MT's Elmax was excellent imo but Im a huge fan of M390
I agree the action was really bad out of the box. Has broken in a bit, but I thought something was wrong with the knife at first with the action being as bad as it was. They need to polish the surface of the blade that makes contact with the ram lok. Mine was really rough and had a lot of texture on the blade making it not smooth when opening.
Interesting... :-) That does look like a real nice and strong locking system. :-) Peace, Stiletto :-)
Ohhh Jerad got them thicc boi pockets 😂😂
By any chance do you have a stitch you would want to sale? All i can find in stock are the half serrated blades.
Jared. I’ve been waiting for the manual Stitch for a long time. I’m disappointed in your overview about the detent. I feel for this price point I shouldn’t have to take the knife apart to make adjustments. I’ll probably still get it. The overview took a little wind out of my sails. Thx
Have you done a recent video on who's been using the best heat treats? Might be an interesting one to see.
It's spyderco
@@themahones
It’s Medford.
I really like the stitch, but don't know that I would carry it. Was checking knife laws in Iowa where I live and it comments on "dagger shape" being illegal. Not that it's a dagger, but explaining that in a legal debate sounds not very promising. I've never had to use a knife in self defense but who knows? I got paranoid weeks back and stopped carrying my elementum button lock for the same reason with gravity knives being illegal here too. Which is really frustrating I absolutely love that knife!
Micro Tech is too proud of their products. Yet, a great many are “Sold Out” on their web pages. Let’s hope they focus on innovation and quality to raise the product value to the product prices or pass innovation’s cost savings on to their customers.
It looks like a variation of the shark lok without the annoying tooth
I think they said it's a little more corrosion resistant polish's easier not sure if they said it would have better edge retention or not though. Hopefully it does. Thanks for a great first look! 👊🏼
What’s the blade thickness compared to the auto stitch? It looks like it’s a bit thinner
Late response but the auto is .19” and the manual is .16”
The whole spring is just out there… Looks cheap, not going to lie. And I would like to see them actually show us their steel/hardness specs on this new material or whatever, compare it to other blades and prove theirs is better all the way down to the structure of the steel and carbon content.
who cares about your opinion..if you dont like them, dont buy them
Sorry I dont care what hrc its I want them. Your are killing me with those two . O.D and army green are my favorite handle colors. If they had black DLC blades ... OMG I'd come through my phone to get them😊
Where have I seen this before 🤔 . . . . [BENCHMADE Anthem] . . . .
I work a very physical job. Carrying a folding blade, thats razor sharp, TIP UP, with an almost non-existent detent sounds like an accident waiting to happen. Ask me how i know 😂. At that price, there's no excuse to not include a solid detent.
Lucky the blade shouldn't open if it's all the way against the seem, but yes I know what you mean, I had one walk it's way the the middle of my pocket doing a roof, and on my way up the ladder it deployed and started doing what it does best lol
Hogues "axis" is lil better that Benchmades I think. Especially on the bigger knives. The rsk Lil better than the freak in my examples
I think this lock similar to spyderco lock on manix
Où peut on acheter en toutes sécurités en ligne ces deux modèles de couteaux ?
Well that's going to be a no go for me with that ram lock.
I want the stitch. Wish they would stock sites already.
Patience grasshopper.... there will be coupons etc... IMO its always best to wait a while to catch some sales... or if you have $$$ to burn then yea buy at drop date
@@rickrolledtruth5834 This isn't really one that comes back in stock unless you want to wait another year honestly. I am going to doubt they stock this like they would an ultratech. The fact it hasn't made it to sites yet tells me they don't plan to have a production model to keep up with demand on it. But as is life.
@@Luc1dRock ahhhhh hmmmm... I hear ya then... I'm going wait til jerad test TF outta it to see how it holds up and then I'm getting it... the design is kool af and the lock seems decent.
@RICK ROLLED{TRUTH} I'd be more in it for the look in all honesty. Much like most OTFs for me, it would be a conversion peice, while I beat up my Shaman and other Spydercos. Though I do carry a WhipperSnapper often.
Cool
Man, Microtech really dropped the ball, the way that lock works now that I can see it better, why not put a hump on the spine of the RAM lock so that it could also be used like a Demko Shark Lock?
He probably still has a patent on that shark lock for him and cold steel. Plus not everyone likes the ergos of that lock
@@williams.1130 He has a patent on the Shark lock. Putting a thumb ramp on the Ram lock would not infringe on the patent. The fidget bois would go wild for the multiple means to engage the lock.
I do not like the function and look of the stitch with out the sharpening choil. It doesn’t feel as secure. Also the ram lock is gritty. Same with the MSI. I’ve broken in plenty of knives so I’m familiar with break in periods etc. this feels more function. I love Microtechs I currently own 25 of them. Not trying to be overly critical.
Did you ever adjust the spring ?
yeah i did not work out well
@@NeevesKnives thank you sir.
I love my automatic Stitch. The best ergos ever. But the blade is heavy and relatively thick. It makes me think flipping it would be an issue. The MSI looks interesting.
I know, I feel like it is the best looking and strongest auto folder. If people really take a look at the auto stitch, you realize how much engineering and how much of a tank this thing is built like, and don't even get me started with the harpoon blade, I love that shape. One more thing I noticed when someone brought it up online, the weird amazing rubbery aluminum handle has stippling all over it for grip, but some engineer was so smart he didn't put it under the pocket clip so it doesn't rip your jeans or pants up.
Reverse gas station grip lol.
So whats wit that hideous pocket clip on the Stitch? MSI one is nice.
But Stitch one looks nasty! I have a few knives i love but cant stand the pocket clips. So I'll get my own clips from kubey, civivi, whomever soots me. I even go as far as to redrill holes make it deep cary with flat screws. Even do a little router work so its recessed. If it were me id def order the MSI clip if they sell it and stick on the Stich. Just My2!
I think microtech is a bit with their heads in the cloud. Expensive. And King of the hill in their minds. So they need competition where they loose sales so they try harder and do better.
I think you should send me one to check out😂
super cool but the price tho...
I don’t think it would be a bad knife for $25
I’ve got the same problem with my Demko AD20.5, the spring is so spongy that there is no detent and it’s not a satisfying feeling at all. I’m still looking for a stronger spring.
How is the warranty
Microtech has a good warranty
Love my Stitch,,, but It sucks to carry everyday
Everyone who has these says the same thing. The action is subpar. Solid overall but not fun to deploy. What a shame. Still want the Stitch at least but I’m in no hurry to get it anymore
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I spend $4-10k per month on Marfione and Microtechs, and I’ve got to say the way they are selling these is BULLSHIT. Like todays drop. I get it, the guys with limited funds are dying for the knives they can afford, but come on. Make a bunch and then sell them like the other knives.
You are getting ripped off. Those knives have such poor value heat treat.
Totally agree… everyone is freaking out trying to get one and then you even have people dumb enough to pay double the price for them on eBay. If everyone was just patient they will be available on the regular within a few months. Look at all the other Microtech knives they are almost all available anytime you want one. Aside from maybe the anax and the socom bravo.
@@silverlionblades ive got a USA made anax in full carbonfiber. It says its custom but that's a marketing lie. Microtech doesnt make custom knives they just hand polish a production knife and use different materials.
@@tacticalcenter8658 I agree most people don't realize all the production is overseas and the only thing made here is the Marfione Customs. Which as you described half of the customs are production anyways 😂 😢 which you are correct.. Man so much to say but I'll leave it at that.
What is your income source brother I need to become like you.
As a lefty so frustrating when an ambidextrous knife has no clip option so 100% NO!!!!!
Those are badass, you can give one to me Jerad! Lol I need to become a Patreon. I just hate contributing to Patreon for their political biases.
According to microtech the new m390 they use has more regulated and controlled carbon content
I agree on the heat treat criticisms. And that the action seems mediocre? Nah. Let them come out with a v2.
Yo
Hrc test please!
They didn't change the heat treatment at all ... So rc will be the same as all the others tested... 58rc give or take.
@@tacticalcenter8658 aw. Ok seems a little soft
Seems blah to me now
I bough the Stitch 11-2023. I paid too much on eBay. should I keep it new in box? Or use the hell out of it? I’m worried the M390MK isn’t “tough” enough and will suffer chips. Basically question is, investment or super expensive letter opener? lol
👍 *# 121*
I don't wanna be "this guy"...again 😆but MSi looks like a rip off of Gavko's Spiny Dog Fish. It's very clear to me.
It fails spectacularly with very light spine tapping. $15 Gerber did exponentially better
First
Over priced
I bet any blade with m390 or m390mk Microtech not crispy edge.. very bad edge retention with the price.. never ever buy from microtech anymore full stop 🙅🏻♂️🙅🏻♂️🙅🏻♂️