How to Transition into using a Handpiece Faceting Machine
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- Опубликовано: 4 июн 2024
- This video is for new cutters as well as seasoned mast cutters who are thinking about switching to a handpiece style #faceting machine.
Videos I Reference:
✨Balancing the Handpiece: • IGT: Balancing the Fac...
✨Lap Sequences: • Handpiece Polishing Se...
✨Cheater vs Non-Cheater Handpiece: • Handpiece Comparison -...
✨Faceting Tools Shopping List: drive.google.com/open?id=14Nv...
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Timestamps
00:00 Intro
00:47 Adjust Your Mind and Expectations
03:21 Balance your Handpiece
04:14 Change your Cutting Sequence
06:03 Consider Crown First
08:41 Learn the Fine Angle Adjustment Technique
14:55 Give Yourself an Adjustment Period
16:59 Additional Tools You Will Need
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Very nicely done. I was actually thinking about going to a handheld. I know it’s gonna be a lot different but in the same time it looks like it’s gonna be a lot easier. Thanks for the video. Appreciate it take care and God bless.
Very nicely done. I have a Raytech machine that uses The Handpiece. Essentially I've used this but never fully understood that there are some differences that need to be taken into consideration to make the transition. Initially purchased and used a left mast Graves that I learned on. Never thinking or considering the differences your video pointed out with a Handpiece type. Now have a better understanding of the Raytech/Handpiece and how to properly use it. Also your video on tramming/balancing was quite helpful to make sure the Raytech Handpiece was accurate. Thanks for taking the time to put these issues into perspective.
Glad it was helpful. I’ve never used the Raytech to cut on and I’m wondering if there are some essential differences between the Sri Lankan style machine and the Raytech machine
@@JustinKPrim - Your video shows the ways that can be applied and work also with the Raytech. One thing, if you will? The dual prepolish & polish lap is great and will be helpful. Are they available anywhere or would I have to fabricate something to work? So far, I haven't been able to search any out. Thanks again for all you're doing! :)
@@kiotipass you get get a few different ones from gearloose in America. I recommend them such as the Dominatrix or the dual band zinc lap
Thanks for this I am that person who purchased this as my first machine if you get time see my first attempts on Mark’s faceting shed. I am very proud of my first two stones cut by watching Justin’s videos. Thanks for the help.
mark, if you made a playlist of those videos, id love to see it because he has so many to go through and it is really overwhelming.
Thanks for the master explanation about the machine. Still I am using this machine. Proud to be a Sri Lankan. ❤❤❤👌👌👌
I fell in love with the handpiece way of faceting, so I decided before I started to make my machine compatible for both handpiece and mast, thanks for great video ....
Brilliant teacher mate thanks for this video very informative 👍 great work mate thank you
Awesome as always! Thanks for sharing!
Great video Justin. 👍
Thanks for the very informative video!
Love the first section. I have an old sapphire faceting machine from arrow company and it doesnt have any guages. the angle set is 2 pieces of metal with lines on them, and my micro height adjust is stiff. but stones still come out well knowing how to use the machine.
i appreciate this practical informative video.
the tip in 13:40 was new for me, i cant wait to give it a try
THANK YOU :D
Thank you so much
Thanks a million 😊
I have a lot of experience on both handpiece and mast machines. Of course the exact same way of adjusting the angle that you are showing by lowering the plate is done on the mast machine by lowering the mast. No difference in speed or difficulty. Mast machines can also be cheated steeper with the fine hard stop adjuster. This is faster and more accurate than the handpiece.
Great video. I haven't bought a machine yet, but I think I'll enjoy going with a handpiece machine instead of a mast, might as well learn that from the start. Thanks for doing these videos!!!
Glad you found it helpful!
Very good
Your channel is therapy.
Do you think this work can be replaced with machines in the foreseeable future?
There is definetely a very important human element in making it till the final product.
I think some of it will but the fine work will always need a human hand
thanks , please make a video about corian laps used for final polishing
Sorry I dont use corian laps
Thanks a lot for this video, very informative 🙏🏻💎
Laurent Azerbaijan 😉
Justin , very intereste video as usualle , thank you
Thanks
Thanks for the great explanations I am looking forward to transiting to hand piece faceting but I like fantasy and frosted designs faceting do you think the hand piece machine can accommodate me comfortably thanks once again
Frosted designs is no problem but if you want to use this with a fantasy/concave machine you would probably have to build an attachment yourself. If you want to hand carve after faceting that would work.
You mentioned in this video that the handpiece machine came frSriLanka and is a less expensive gig. What company did you order from? And how much is inexpensive? I am on a tight budget and will probably have to save up awhile.
Great question. Here’s a shopping list I put together that has the details on the machine I use as well as all the other stuff you need to get started. You need to budget around $2500 but that includes not just the machine but all the tools and all the laps you need to do anything. drive.google.com/file/d/14NvJ89tXbRh6wIkFRljjQ607qcall20W/view?usp=drivesdk
How much is this set up with the frog that has the cheating knob?
$1600 or so with speed controller and cheater Handpiece
Thank you Justin, perfect timing as from following your videos and recommendations, I am currently in contact with Sadun to purchase the variable speed version with cheater handset. Therefore this video and the info within could not have come at a better time.
My original plan was to buy your kit but the IGT website is showing 'out of stock' so I have initially agreed to buy the Lapidary Accessories package as well. But to be honest, comparing the two lists, I think I would still prefer to purchase your kit, providing it is currently available. If so, could you update the website so I may place my order. TIA. Regards. John
You won’t regret this purchase I took delivery of mine a month ago, fantastic peace of kit. Sri Lanka is having a bad time with COVID so delivery won’t be instantaneous however it’s worth the wait. I purchased the full kit, it all works well. See it on Marks faceting shed.
@@marksfacetingshed Yes I am in touch with Sadun and he said they were having big problems so I am quite happy to wait. It's what it is unfortunately :-( I have also been chatting to Justin and having put the two lists side by side, Justin's comes out on top. Currently he is waiting on a lamp, that is why the site is flagging up out of stock. But I am happy to take the rest so not an issue. Another factor is I live a couple of hours down the coast from Bangkok so chances are I will be attending one of his classes once Covid is finally under control and we open up. Therefore makes sense to use the same kit, that way he can tune me using the same gear ;-)
I started cutting with a used sterling machine 2 months ago, going well but sometime its bit harder to cut ovels and catch the meet points. Could you share some tricks on angeles and indexes ✌️💪. Your videos were very helpful on my self studying ❤
I have a video on ovals coming soon!
@@JustinKPrim cool counting on it 💙💎
What would you recommend ? This type of machine?
Check out of the pdf shopping list in the video description. That’s my recommendation
We need to figure out how to macuyver these handpieces to have the gauges because I'm never going to cut enough stones to get the 'feel' of it, and while I have a good enough eye to spot a really shoddy faceting job, I'm not likely to have a good enough eye to not cut a wonky stone. I don't have the money for that. I inherited my 80's raytech shaw. I'd love to make good use of it as a hobby cutter. I also have a bunch of idaho opal rough that I want to be able to grind perfectly flat in the plane of the color bar, and I'm thinking the handpiece won't be useful for that, but a mast would.
I think you just need a good instructional. Our students cut 4 stones in two weeks and a lot of them are good from the first one with no gauges and nothing but your eye.
Interesting. I'll skip the details, but I just got a really good idea. I am considering taking your course, but my machine is used and may have been screwed up in shipping, and I would hate to find out that my machine is wonky before signing up...you see the predicament I am in. Anyway, I will definitely keep your courses in mind and maybe if I am having issues cutting the basic stone in the raytech manual, I'll get a one on one. Thank you for your response. Also, if you have a triplet instructional, I would love to know how to grind an opal that only has a colorbar the thickness of a human hair. The spencer Idaho opal is geyser opal, so much of the color is very thin and perfectly flat.
@@andreameigs1261 where are you located? Maybe we’re passing through your town on our USA tour?
@@JustinKPrim Oh, I highly doubt it. The closest big city is Salt Lake city Utah which is 2.5 hours away from me, but if you are going to be there at a time when I'm not in school, I would probably make the trip.
@@andreameigs1261 we’re going all through Utah and then up to montana later in the year
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Salve per caso avete macchine per sfaccettare pietre giganti
5000 ct .
Per lucidare in piano non ho problemi userò la leva di Archimede
Ciao .
Hey Justin, where can I get the machine in the USA and I like to have one for a lefty
You have to order one from sri lanka. Or if you want an American made check out Raytech Shaw but they don’t look like this machine. Also you don’t need one for a lefty. I’m left handed and this machine is perfect.
@@JustinKPrim Hi Justin , thanks for the info, is it possible to look at your machine closer please maybe a video call ?, also does it fit 8” or 6” only
@@JustinKPrim Hi Justin,
Hi Justin, is it possible to have a video call maybe with you also does this machine fit 8 inch wheel or only 6 inch also if you can tell me where from Sri Lanka I can order it thanks Justin
@@josephyouthsoccer921 Sorry, too busy for a call but yes it does 8" and 6". I have lots and lots of videos on my channels featuring this machine. Look at some of the transformation videos or some of the live streams where I cut for 3 hours. you can see a lot.
Cost of this faceting machine?
Approx $2000
How much he wished
Mast type machines are more accurate than the handpiece.
Mast type machine can be used for more fansy cuts with high accuracy, while handpiece machine can be used for cutting more and simple designs...
Handpiece machine: cut more earn more
Mast machine: cut less but fansy
I would agree with this. I can cut fairly complex designs on my Handpiece but super super complicated, intricate patterns become very challenging and time consuming, With that being said, those complex designs don’t really sell better or for more money than a well- designed simple pattern, so therefore they aren’t cost effective at all. Plus usually they complex cuts are built around brilliant pavilion designs and therefore lose a lot of weight.
Hmm no way to purchase the sterling in 2022
Go to their website and email them. www.sterlinggemland.com.