How to Reboot Civilisation after an Apocalypse | Lewis Dartnell | TEDxSouthampton
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- Опубликовано: 16 июл 2024
- Maybe it was an asteroid impact, a nuclear war, or a viral pandemic. Whatever the cause, the world as we know it has ended and your community of survivors must start again. What key knowledge would you need to accelerate the rebooting of civilisation from scratch? In this fascinating talk, Lewis Dartnell argues that the most important think you will need is the knowledge contained in a book. Not just any book, but a bespoke post-apocalyptic book with which you could reboot civilisation.
Lewis Dartnell is a research scientist, presenter and author based in London, UK. He is a Professor in Science Communication at the University of Westminster. His research is in the field of astrobiology and the search for microbial life on Mars. He also holds a STFC Science in Society Fellowship and is very active in delivering live events at schools and science festivals, working as a scientific consultant for the media, and have appeared in numerous TV documentaries and radio shows. He has won several awards for his science writing and outreach work and regularly freelances for newspapers and magazine articles, and has published three books.
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If you need to reboot a civilization just be nice to whatever mechanical engineers you have left.
Never!!!
should change title to "how to make a printing press"
The printing press is one simple technology you would want to recover quickly to reboot everything else, and tied into the TED theme of how to spread the ideas worth spreading...
I'd probably make gunpowder before I made a printing press, gotta survive before you can sit around and write books.
@@ZXNTV i think that's the point of saying to reboot society.
Or "How to advertise your book, by telling you how to make the printing press"
Everyone thinks about this and similar topics. I think about what I would do if I found myself transported into past.
Things that are most important:
1. Knowledge to breed plants and animals for desired traits.
2. Farming knowledge.
3. Iron making
4. division of labor and specialization
5. Steam engine
6. Ship building and sailing.
its a loop :(
its a loop :(
I think its interesting you don't have cooking in there
Perhaps you should add making (roman) concrete to the list as that can be used for plethora of things, including building houses, but also boats and roads. as for iron making, perhaps you could swap that for forging (which includes but is not limited to iron forging and steel making). It could probably also be quite useful to know how to make gunpowder and/or dynamite (not just for self defense or warfare, but also to blow up mountainsides to create mines etc.)
only to land in the wrong area, become enslaved and ending up doing hand-labor for 20 years to repay your debt
I tried the same thought experiment a few years ago and came to a different conclusion. In my fiction novel, Earth not Forgotten, paper books were just one element survivors would need to worry about. There were several others. If civilization did collapse in the way supposed in this Ted talk, it would take a long time to reboot. Gadgets including the speaker's apocalypse-proof book would not last long enough to make a difference. His gadget strikes me a something to use during an extended power outage.
I bought a solar panel to use to charge my iphone when backpacking 9 years ago its not as effecient nowadays but its still kicking just stock up on extra cords. If you make building a printing press your first priority you can just start busting out one copy of each book so you have everything written down before the kindle or the solar panel die.
I enjoyed this video so much. Thinking about the foundations of society and civilization is absolutely mind blowing
TED, Ideas worth spreading, except when you disagree with them and disable the comment section
That's why its "ideas worth spreading" and not just "ideas"
This was an excellent talk about how to spread ideas worth spreading. Many thanks to the speaker!
If I could only have one book I would probably choose one that says _“the greatest inventions of history”_ or something like that
Good choice, but you still need to know how to manufacture that inventions. No book is big enough to contain all of that information and if it would have existed, it would be so heavy and bulky, that you couldn't carry it anywhere.
1st mistake: rebuilding civilization
2nd mistake: assuming that the wealthy/powerful don't control any technology
the most important technology/knowledge you might want = the thing most of us civilized domesticated humans lack
basic plant understanding
How is rebuilding civilization a mistake?
@@SquidCena He's probably a misanthrope.
@@SquidCena Look up post-civilization anarchism. The post-apocalyptic ruins would be the best and most thrilling living situation by far.
@@reoffending In what way?
i was wondering about exactly this, and delighted to find this. I want more ...
Don't click away, this video has Minecraft!
James Burke pointed out forty years ago that the one thing you need to restart civilization after a collapse is the plow. Agriculture is the key to everything, without a it, you are reduced to being a hunter-gatherer. You can't rebuild civilization if all your effort is consumed in the pursuit of food. Agriculture produces a surplus and that surplus buys you the time to devote to invention and inovation. Being able to print books to record and disseminate knowledge is important, but unless you have time to devote to acquiring knowledge, knowing how to print a book is pointless. I should also point out that teaching new generations how to read and write are vital. If you fail, all the books in all the libraries are reduced to so much kindling within a generation. This was something George R. Stewart understood when he wrote his classic novel "Earth Abides."
Isaac Asimov wrote a 7 volume book about this subject. Foundation trilogy and more.
Time to stock up on typewriters and photocopiers
I just got this book delivered today
Prepare ahead of time with a Knowledge Ark. Store valuable books, music, movies, etc. so they will be available for the descendants of the survivors.
For some reason ,TED don' t want us to comment on video regarding woman and fat people rights. BTW TED I hope you understand the like/dislike ratio on the last video do not represent viewers opinion on woman rights but the fact that you are disabling the comment section on important subjects. I hope you will grow a pair for the next video ;)
If you really want to discuss woman and fat people rights, you could always just find a woman or fat people to talk to... Mustn't be that hard... How to rebuild civilization after the apocalypse though, that's a rare topic to occur in everyday talks.
Algiark Your comment is irrelevant. TED is an open platform to share views and opinions on different topics. By censoring user opinions, they are going against their own reason of existence. BTW by commenting on this particular video was not meant to be disrespectful of the speaker. I'm sure it's an interesting subject.
Giving me Dr. Stone vibes
if were gonna make a book at least we should make one that teaches how to understand letters and how to read. this is the main challenge. and after the apocalypse, will there even be any sources left?
Interesting way to say that the way to rebuild civilization is to rebuild the spreading of ideas. Interesting. Very interesting.
I'm sorry your video attracted such a range of crazy and off-topic comments. And I'm even more sorry people don't understand British English versus American English. I'm embarrassed for the people who "corrected" your spelling. At any rate, I thought this was really interesting and well done. That sand casting of the metal typeface was amazing. Thank you for taking the time to put this together.
Thank you! If it's any consolation, the wanton use of Zs in words grates me, in a reciprocal sense...
Bless him for thinking about academia in an apocalyptic time.
FYI four fundamentals
Water
Food
Gun
Ammo.
We have to clear the cannibals first
im pretty sure theres a valid reason a reputable channel like this is discussing and uploading this information
I KNOW ITS RHETORIC and almost a trend to say.. but STAY WOKE. militant, resilent, and armed. choose a side.. dont be a victim either! God Bless
Step one: never, ever, ever, ever, ever re-establish a central authority, ever again.
Amazing!
Okay, but what if you need to replace the solar panels? Or any of the electrical components of the e-reader itself?
Consider the book "Riddley Walker", by Russell Hoban, and how the people of a distant post-apocalyptic culture in SE England had almost lost every bit of knowledge and technology.
Gee, I dunno what that book would be that we would want to kick-start the world again. But I think it would come from a very, VERY well-planned Vocational Education Library and attached Workshop cluster (where the craft and skills of the VOC-ED library would be carried out).
how can we be advancing if we are destroying the planet that we live in.
This is a real primary school science lesson isn't it .. or have I missed something. So we can only survive the aftermath of a nuclear war by finding a.Korean monk?
Is it EMP protected?
seems so naive and sweet, people would eat him.
I'm not saying that protecting your community wouldn't be important, but to recover society you'll also need a lot of knowledge on how to make and do things from scratch yourselves once again after civilisation has collapsed
Or how to make more complicated items like a integrated circuit and a screen or a siliconn chip
People whinning about comments being disabled on previous videos sound like kids whose candy had been stolen. If you don't like these videos, why do you even bother coming here ?
I’m taking notes on this cuz of COVID.
Nice idea. Me too.
Dr. Stone
All this assumes that people capable of reading survive the apocalypse. Given that assumption, I see no need to create a survivable e-reader, or to recreate the technology of the printing press. Simply collect and preserve books on vital subjects like medicine, blacksmithing, electric motors and generators, etc. In this respect (and others), Lucifer's Hammer is a pretty good guide.
He needs to make thousands of those kindles, each with a unique but similar selection of books. (say 50% come from a pool of books that are selected incrementally, each decision being made between books on the same topic, and the final list checked against all the other lists to verify that at least say 25% of all the books in each kindle are unique to that kindle.) That way there is variety, difference in viewpoint, more well rounded knowledge, and a reason to trade information between groups.
writing is necessary for bureaucratic management so you'd probably wind up with a civilization like Egypt or china where nothing advanced for millennia. I'd focus on agriculture and baby making
Ascendance of a Bookworm origins
The balance of technology and ethics. My opinion.
Did he publish the list of the 10,000 most useful books needed to survive?
why are the likes and views so low. this is gold
17:30 Sure.. then you get an memory, or screen failure in it, which an inevitability after certain amounts of usage, and then all human knowledge in gone. Other than the fact, that most apocalyptic dangers will probably hit the electronics first, which will bring said apocalypse, modern semiconductors are definitely not up to the task of long memory storage. Their charge will dissipate, they will have problems with magnetic, or electromagnetic phenomena, and the tiny gates that hold the binary charge, wear themselves appart eventually.
To be frank, I'd just use some short of analog glass disks, from which you can project the data into a wall, using an incandescent lamp. Then again, you need to create the lamp, the projector, and power for it from scratch. I guess you could use a candle, and a hand crank, but how cavemen of the future would come to that conclusion, instead of wearing the disks as jewelry? That's why you also need hard writing basic instructions on how to use the "library", written nearby on top of some metal that will not oxidize. Written language, but also hieroglyphic instructions of basic info.
Anyone else feel like this guy missed out on a billion dollar solar powered palm device industry..?
... dude..
the back of mount rushmore had a vault planned for this
what if the reason everyone died is nuclear winter? all of a sudden you have no sun to charge that e-book
All you need to rebuild civilization is Senku.
Best
For me it would be the science of medicine, science of engineering, and the science of being nice lol
And when that Kindle breaks....you are totally f*cked
Protip: set playback speed to 1.25 for a normal speed of speech.
You mean "reinstall", you can't reboot something that's gone.
1:13 Videogames. They must survive.
He needs to watch Dr stone
Anyone else here in march 2020?
Im a Mormon, and well, books have also been saved in precious metals. By a society that did pass away. Many histories were made, and then a man by the name of Mormon abridged them and put them into one metal book, which did stand the test of time. Each book that was made was passed down to someone else, and they had a similar conversation. This is not a new concept.
Joseph Smith was called a prophet dum dum dum dum dum
what if i tell you the apocalypse is allready happening, it is just not like in the movies
It's called "The Wasteland Survival Guide" by Moira Brown
I really don't want it to be like today today is very complicated
Well what do u suggest?
@@Unknown-dm3lk kill everyone.
I was expecting something else...
Civilization Reset Dec 21st 2020
yep feeling very reseted rn
During the outbreak, really?
Anyone else here after watching Dr. Stone?
You could do all of this...
Or you could just save Lynda.com's database.
title with so much potential yet this is a perfect example of someone mid smart trying to sound abstract and super smart. what the hell is he talking about pretty much???!!!! or just change the bloody title 'how to make a book'
butterfflyess you might be interested to know that this is only a small section of one chapter of the book, not even the whole chapter, just a part of it. He also covers basic survival, food production, transportation, et cetera. His book is basically a How-to guide to rebuild human civilization, kind of like what the title says. Of course he could have just gone through the entirety of the book, but then why write the book when he can just record a lecture, this is just a small part of the book which focuses on making sure that the information in the book would be impossible to lose after an apocalypse, to make sure that no matter what the civilization you may build in the aftermath doesn’t roll back downhill once you have died and the paper the book is written on has rotted away.
Basically, this here is a small bit of the book he wrote about surviving after an apocalypse, on the subject of actually making a book after said apocalypse, and a small not-quite-advertisement for said book.
*Civilization
Can I eat a book?
Freedom of speech is a right as against the *government* to say or write what you wish without the threat of imprisonment or censorship, subject to reasonable limits within a free and fair society. It is not a right as against a youtube channel. Moreover it is not a right which imposes a duty on the government (much less anyone else) to provide you with a forum for your comments. I applaud all these commenters' great concern with freedom of speech--*enjoy it while you may.* It would have been nice if some of you were *holding your representatives accountable and speaking out while they were passing the Ministry of Truth Bill (S. 2943).* In my view that would have been a better use of your dwindling freedom of speech than spewing body-shaming and misogyny on a youtube channel. But don't worry, your government will only delete comments that contradict their war-crime justification lies--they don't really care about women and fat.
buy a lathe and mill
Anyone else come here because they saw they spelled civilization with a "s"?
You wouldn't have to disable comments if you didn't have people with disabled opinions getting up on stage and being so obnoxiously wrong...
Yep, disgusting is the word. They uploaded a talk from somebody that maaaany people disagree with, but we're not allowed to disagree with anyone on Ted, oh no. We must never speak ill of anyone doing a Ted Talk. This is some North Korea shit.
I didn't know flinging insults at each other counts as discussion...
When you get up there and try and make out like being rude is equally as bad as doing ACTUAL WAR CRIMES. You better expect some insults. Another example of modern day people living in their own reality and then projecting it onto other people and then getting upset when not everything meshes.
Well too late, it has come to the point where it's easier to just block everyone's voice instead of picking up the good ones. Don't blame yourself, blame everyone else who can't maintain civility.
So why is he wrong? Tell me
Civilization*
Sage Lawrence Its British.
Hey he stole my idea
So basically... Scp-2000
the tao te ching
A little false advertising here
why would you wanna reboot the very cause of destruction and apocalypse on the planet
Is RUclips trying to tell us something? How to save civilization FROM an apocalypse would be more useful.
lol isnt it Civilization?
okay, misteh pottah
I'd say forget about modern technology mate... that's one of the many reasons why we might have an apocalyptic event lol.
focus on sharing, love, unity...holistic medicene, energetic healing.... reconnect to the earth..... technology keeps us divided and so far away from the truth... X xx xx xx X xx X
Yes! I absolutely agree that there's more to living than technology. But you also need to know the basics of providing for yourself and your community: how to provide energy, preserve food, prevent infectious diseases killing people, supply the essential chemistry that society relies upon, etc...
Yes, but none of that alternative medicine bs please.
Half of the words coming out of his mouth are unnecessary. He could have spoken just for 5 minutes and conveyed all the info.
OK, Guttenberg wasn't the first to invent movable type, and Columbus didn't discover America. So what? You see, when you are speaking of history, "so what" is the difference between a piece of trivia, and something important. Chinese monks invented movable type. So what? Did it lead to anything? No, it didn't. Guttenberg's legacy is literally the whole modern world. Erikson and the Chinese discovered America. So what? Columbus' discovery led to the conquest/re-colonization of two entire continents. So when you folks out there hear this trivial BS, just ask so what?
Why would you want to reboot such ugliness? Everyone has such fantasies including Walter Mitty.
Actually societies don't progress for long. They all end the same way.
I read his book and I can safely say that it's a waste of time.
his book is a piece of crap. ive read it and as a engineer and biosciences grad i can honestly say this, it contains so little information that its totally inadequate to do what the title says. his idea is good but completely light on how to do it. do your self a favour by a 128gb flash drive and download Wikipedia and then go out and by a chemistry, biology, physics and medical grad book and you would be set.
I don't disagree - if you allowed yourself 128Gb you could save more information... But what would be the most crucial understanding you would put into a single 300p book?
Lewis Dartnell But why limit yourself to a book when it would be nigh impossible to lose everything digital. Save the right people and we'll be able to build what we need.
Well, I don't think it would be a given that we could never lose digital information. I'd stress again, though, that this was a thought experiment to serve as a vehicle to explore the behind-the-scenes technologies of our own modern world, and what enabled society to progress through history
This advice will be useful very soon with Trump as president...