Atlanta Falcons drafting Michael Penix looks better a week later
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- Опубликовано: 30 апр 2024
- The Atlanta Falcons' surprise selection of Washington quarterback Michael Penix Jr. in the first round of the 2024 NFL Draft looks a little different after a week of thinking it over according to host Aaron Freeman and his guest Damian Parson (@LockedOnNFLDraft). They discuss Penix's role behind Kirk Cousins and whether or not he'll push for the starting job sooner versus later.
Then, they discuss the rest of the Falcons 2024 draft class including the three pass-rushers they took after the first round: Clemson defensive tackle Ruke Orhorhoro, Washington edge-rusher Bralen Trice, and Oregon defensive lineman Brandon Dorlus. They discuss whether or not Falcons head coach Raheem Morris could have any of them impacting as rookies in the same ways Los Angeles Rams outside linebacker Byron Young and defensive tackle Kobie Turner did a year ago. Finally, they discuss some of the Falcons Day 3 standouts including Notre Dame linebacker J.D. Bertrand and Alabama running back Jase McClellan, before discussing if the Falcons did an adequate job in the draft despite ignoring some key needs at cornerback and wide receiver.
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Cousins and Penix, The Dad and the Durag
Interesting fact: 2021 college football game Cincinnati vs Indiana football game Indiana/ Penix vs Ridder/Cincinnati cincinati 38-24 Great game.
Check out the cartoon where Penix called him Cuck Cousins, because he's gonna be watching from the sidelines... I was dead😂😂😂😂
It takes some people a week to GET OUT THEY DAMN FEELINGS!!! These past few days have been telling to me. I learned a LOT of people follow their feelings instead of logic.
" I feel i feel i felt i felt" Stop it falcons fans. I understood it the moment his name was called.
Exactly! This made more sense than the other positions folks were talking about. Another receiver coming out of folks face would’ve shown incompetence compared to get QB of the future who’s a legit passer.
Cousins was 23 when drafted and has played in 150 NFL games.
The Falcons made a brilliant draft pick for now and the future
Saints fan here...just dropped in to say Im really proud of what the Falcons are doing. Yall got that dude man...TWICE lol. God job fellas and God bless you, good to see yall coming up! Bijan,Pitts,London, Allgeire...good squad 🙏❤⚜️
Thanks! Also FTS!
The age of a quarterback only matters if we even get to see them play later. Justin Fields, Zach Wilson, Trey Lance are just about Penix age but we may see Penix on the field before them
Looks like Kirks in Atlanta for just 2 years. I seriously doubt that Penix is going to sit for the next 4 seasons. Being a top 10 pick, he's going to start sooner than later.
U r most likely right. He would have to be BALLIN' OUT to play that third year in the ATL. And that would be ok.
Well its likely Fluid. Gotta remember both cousins and penix have had serious knee injuries.
@@kellydriskill7197Penix had ACL injuries, Kirk had an Achilles tear . It’s been a few years since those for Penix and his most recent was actually in his non throwing shoulder which was 3 ish years ago.
He should start right away....gives Atlanta chance to test his durability
I really think we have the best quarterback in the draft, 2 years behind Kirk enough time to correct his flaws! Man this kid is going to be dangerous!
He is bro! 💯 Their going to build him and his body and mind to a freaking superhero 🦸♂️
Can’t wait to see him sling it at OTAs
Elite 🔥
I disagree. There are several good QBs in this class. Its a class of 83' type situation. I feel Penix only needs 3/4 to a whole season of learning. Then go ahead and pull the trigger IF AND ONLY IF you can put up a good oline around him. You all block good for him and he will prosper. Im a saints fan but thats my dude. He is anointed of The Lord. When i was 14, i used to have a falcons starter jacket cause of Deion...living in Louisiana lol. I may need to purchase another cause the lil cousins down I-10 ARE COMING UP! Watch what im telling you. Excited for you guys man. ❤
It may not even be 2 years.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Penix is elite at not taking sacks one of his best skills.
Had a top 5 line in college. Falcons aren't known for protecting a QB. Penix has had 4 major surgeries. Might have another Vick. QB made from glass.
@@achilles1373 4 major surgeries? Where are you getting this info from? He has been good at getting the ball out quick, new teammate Dorlus also confirmed this.
@achilles1373 Vick wasn't made from glass...he just threw his body around all the time like it was titanium, and that didn't work out all the time 😂
@@achilles1373 Falcons have a top 5 offensive line. Google is your friend.
Surprised we didnt go OT at some point. Bringing in 4 DL was a surprise but many people been calling for it for years.
I thik Trice is going to be a stud
Ruke gone end up being a edge. I think Dorlus will be sharing snaps with Grady to keep ‘em fresh
I am happy with Michael Penix Jr pick. Look what happen to The Jets last year. I bet they wish they would have picked a QB in the draft. Four snaps later their season was over. Now what do you think of the pick?
I think it sucks.
It was stupid. You can get a back up qb in free agency, you don't need to waste pick 8 on one.
Intro is 🔥 and you can definitely forget about the Saints on this podcast.
Congrats on 10K. "Tremendous summer content" is definitely the path to 11K. 😅
The more I calm down, the more I like our draft. I started to remember it’s not too late to make moves for players to fill needs.
Pretty much is though, our free cap space is very small.
@@user-ym9dz5uy2vThey are able to create space with a new contract for AJ, make some other releases and we’d have enough to sure up the back end of the defense. I think we have the best d line in the division rn after the draft. Just finished that linebacker group and I’d say a corner and maybe a safety completes the roster.
I still think it was a bad move, even though I like Penix. We'll have plenty of opportunity to try and figure out if TF was right or not, especially once the inevitable "QB controversy" stories get hot.
I dont like it either cuz they both injury prone and they take up so much pension. And kirk won 1 playoff game so he's not solidified
Calm down Atlanta, he's a baller. You will love him.
Penix is that dude i wont lie. He had some monster receivers though too, thats for sure.
You are right... I'm an Eagles fan and I watch the same show with Jalen Hurts... they should start him
@@kellydriskill7197I mean London and Pitts is pretty good.
@@burtknighten4438 The difference is how good are they compared to the defenses they play vs the guys at wash and the defenses they played.
Oh I know! I was hyped when Penix's name was called for my Dirty Birds!! Dude is gonna own this division for the new 10 plus years!!
With so much attention on the Falcons drafting one of the top Edges, and teams behind them like Denver, Minnesota and Las Vegas that needed QBs possibly looking to trade up for one, I wonder if the Falcons were able to talk with those other teams and get a very good idea of what they wanted to do. They probably got some good intel while everyone was expecting them to go Defense.
I am a believer in delayed gratification. That will help explain what I am about to say.
Think about this:
If we did not draft Penix, there is a VERY good chance we would have drafted Tattler at some point. Then, we would have felt compelled to start him after years of grooming him.
We may have avoided disaster.
Mmmmm...saints fan here. Really no telling how thatll work out. Ive seen alot stranger things than rattler being good in my 35 years being an nfl fan.
Rattler is going to be a really good #2. Hes super streaky and is really good when hes on.
@burtknighten4438 He is going to be really good #2. Wow! I don't like streaky #2. I like #2 that stays out of my underwear.
Does this remind you of the draft that Raymond's was a part of before they went to the super bowl fast and physical?
Ive picked Pitts, Bijan, and Penix. I knew we were going to take a wr, but did not see London being the pick.
It made since draft night the man will be one of the best qbs in the league east
Can't wait to see the cope from Falcons fans when Penix shows why he was many people's qb 5.
After I heard the GM rationale as to why they drafted Penix, I realized why I’m on the couch watching. (Let Terry Cook!)
TF is playing chess.
Fire Terry!
@@morrismerritt7923 What's his record? TF thinks he's smarter than everyone else and continues to be shown that he's not.
4.55 is a good time for a QB. Especially when he only.occasionally runs
DP knows his stuff!
I been waiting for the falcons to draft a dl for 4 straight years and they get 4 in one draft. Better late than never
The problem with the Penix pick is not picking him, not even picking him 8th. If you think he is your guy for the future then go for it. The problem is they already had Kirk Cousins which will handcuff thier ability to build around either QB. If they don't sign Cousins then this is a brilliant pick. Use the $90M over the first two years ($50M signing bonus and he has $40M in gauranteed salary, so net is $90M over 2 yrs) you are paying Kirk C to build around Penix. I do worry about Penix injuries from Indiana but fair eough he has been injury free in Washington. And he will need to be more decisive when throwing over the middle, esepcailly intermediate routes. But that is very coachable and he has a rcket of an arm. Maybe the strongest arm in the draft to be fair. I just think you take one or the other, not both QBs.
BTW: Kirk Cousins has a history of pouting when he is not getting his way. And he cannot carry a team. He has some come from behind wins but the reality is tends to shrink in big situations. He is 1-4 in PO games. Yea, D was not great for him sometimes butt he did not help either.
Point blank the Falcons got the best free agent quarterback on the market, then turned around and got the best rookie quarterback in the draft if (passing the ball)is what a quarterback is suppose to do.
Penix Jr 🏹 got that beautiful black queen too 💯
Amen to that
Mmmm... she's nice 😁
I like the picks
Damian knows ball
We signed a broken QB and then drafted one. Kirk coming off an Achilles and Penix has had 4 major surgeries. One being his throwing arm and another on his knee that requires a brace on him and Washington asked him to not run as much bc of that. So yeah, that's what we have. Two gifted broken QBs and a line that's never been known for keeping QB upright. Might have another Vick on our hands. A dude that only completed one full season out of 15. Made of glass. I hope I'm wrong, but they took a lot of risks with these QBs. Desperate moves don't always pay off.
There is no back shoulder fade from a guy who throws side arm passes. Also... Penix only threw to sideline routes. Probably bc it's hard to get the ball over the D line when you're side arm throwing. They need to correct that or else he will lead the league in passes deflected. He has an arm, but it's obvious he didn't have a true QB coach. He can't throw the short passes as good as he can the deep. He threw a lot of 50/50 balls that won't fly in the NFL. He's not day 1 ready at all. Needs a couple years.
@@achilles1373Cousins is gping to be great for him
@@achilles1373 He had supposedly already started working on his throwing motion even before the draft. If you watched film, you'd see that Penix's deep ball accuracy was incredibly overrated and he was often bailed out by his WRs, so I'm not super high on Penix, but I think he'll be fine. This pick wouldn't have even been THAT bad if they hadn't just signed Kirk.
I really don’t think people are truly evaluating this the correct way. London and Pitts are both really good, but have not proven to be legit through no fault of their own but due to poor QB play. The only way to get a true evaluation of them was to have them play with a legit QB. We all know we you’re gonna over pay in free agency. So they got a QB who would be able to give them a real evaluation of how good those guys can be before negotiating their 2nd deals. Minshew wasn’t going to do that. It also wouldn’t be negotiating the contract having played with bums for 4 years.
You don't spend 100m guaranteed because you want to evaluate a WR and a TE. This is one of the dumbest things I've seen to rationalize this situation (still smarter than what the Falcons did, though).
The Falcons will put pressure on other QBs, it will mostly come from disrupting the pocket.
Crazy how Rattler with the Saints
As a saints fan its a weird pick up. I think the plan is to groom Rattler and Haener both in the new OCs scheme and if neither really takes off they both act as like a bridge QB duo while the roster is shuffled and a high pick is secured. Picking up rattler and haener says to me that our GM will likely spend the next two 1st rounders on offensive lineman. Ours havent been very good.
If I was a GM I'd draft O-line every year. My goal would be to have a top 5 line every season. I'm not saying with the first or second pick every year, I mean it would be a focus every year.
@@kellydriskill7197 How is it weird? Rattler was a huge recruit with good tools. You take a flyer on him with a day 3 pick. If he's good, you found a cheap qb. If he's not, who gaf?
Need a OT or two soon.
I mean if Cousins does his job we wont have a top 10 pick for awhile to take a top.QB.
This
@@burtknighten4438 You just responded to your own comment?
The pick made sense to me then and it still does.
Man I thought that DP dude knew football until he said he would trade Tyler Allgeir🤔 Stupidest thing I’ve heard all year. Tyler a beast💯 put some respeck in his name smh.
Why would anyone NOT think Atlanta was taking a QB. The signing of a 36 year old veteran QB was the clear signal....WE ARE DRAFTING A QB!!!!
Because using pick 8 for a backup is a poor use of resources. If they had taken Rattler in the 5th, I think people would have completely understood that.
@@TheMattTrakker Rattler?? I doubt he's a long term solution. He probably won't even make a team. They signed a veteran QB to lead the team until Penix is ready. Makes perfect sense. As I said, not unexpected. The market to get a good QB uses a lot of resources, ya. But the contract is front loaded. So after a few years, no financial pain.
Does it though
From chaotic reactions to acceptance to belief all in a week I love our fanbase lol
they're all fake af tbh
The cope is strong in them
It's still not an exciting pick considering his injury history, but I'm definitely over it and in the acceptance phase lol.
No we keeping Tyler!!
That Ruke pick smh, Lawd. Fiske was rite there bruh
So many players were there...AD Mitchell, Cooper, Newton, Polk, Kool-Aid, Bullard, ect
That one hurt imo
Personally, I liked Fiske’s size but Ruke has a lot of tools that I believe the Falcons are looking for. His punch is really nasty at the attack point. He has a nice burst in his get off. Shows good leverage and hand usage. Being 6’4 290+ also helped in his favor as he has enough to grow into size wise. Also the versatility in the d line players we brought in means that we can have mismatches all over the place because you know one of them is going to take advantage of the o line with the bodies we’ll throw at them. Also, look for a bunch of stunts where the other guys who are typically compared with Ruke from the draft can’t do what he can in that situation.
@@greencat1849Ladd was off the board. He was first pick of round 2 but bumbed he wasnt there
@burtknighten4438 2nd pick...but he went right before Falcons, if we traded up like we did for someone, we could have gotten 1 more spot as well
No trading tyler
Agreed...aint no way
I kinda rolled my eyes 👀 on that one.
Well heres the thing. Hes a great player, but his running style is very physical and aggressive. You want to get something for him, before youre forced to resign him( which i doubt they will). You could get a conditional 2nd-3rd for him right now(3rd rounder for less than 1000 yds, 2nd rounder for 1000+ etc). In two seasons youd be lucky to get a 5th-7th with his particular running style. So its not a dumb move to reload early. Still way i see it you dont ride bijan too hard next year either. You give tyler work and force a trade and sign...do right by him you know ?
@@kellydriskill7197 Good points. Devonta Freeman was a similar back and faded fast. Wear and tear is always a concern but he doesn't get that many touches per game and backs don't command a high trade value. Also, Dallas wins enough games that a pick from them will be late in the round. I get your point though.
@@kellydriskill7197 Doubt anyone is giving up a second for a RB. Look at what was just available in free agency
Short answer, more sense
Yall complaints haven't been legit at all. I'm glad you're coming off your emotional prisoner of the moment outbursts
Rome Odunze wouldn't be Rome Odunze without Penix. 7 other players don't matter...start Penix
I wish
Other way around. Rome bails out Penix's inaccuracy on a regular basis. Do people even watch tape?
Again Thank you Falcons for owning the spot for worst draft pick of all time
What's more crazy is that folks actually think the Falcons brass care about their aggravation with the Penix pick😂😂😂. Nope they don't.
If you think they was going to put themselves in the Matt Ryan not having a succession plan situation again you crazy.
Nobody and I mean Nobody in Atl wants to have another 2 season of Mariota and Ridder at the QB position again. Nobody!!! Those 2 yrs was 😒 painful...hell no
I love how Falcons fans just assume Penix is going to be good. Go look how many 1st round qbs, that were much better prospects than Penix, have been busts in the last ~5 years.
@TheMattTrakker crazy guy, you can say that for every pick in the draft . No matter the round, every pick, I'd a projection.
Saying the Penix pick looks better a week later is just cope.
It really doesn`t look any better.
Shoot man. Im a saibts fan. Yall are doing good things bro. Yall may win 12-13 games next year and kirk get his first playoff win. Be a major improvement. ❤
@@kellydriskill7197 As a Saints fan, I`m sure you`re happy about that draft pick. What a waste, they had a shot to fill a huge hole in their roster and they did this.
We might lose a draft pick from tampering with kirk cousins and along the with the fact we might win the division we won't be picking high in the draft in the next few years
Oh yall winning the division huh 😂 sound live Jets and Browns fans... always "winning the division in may" go head with that man. They play the games for a reason.
How you gonna win the division with a QB controversy and no defense?
Should probably try being good first
WHAT DO YOU DO IF KIRK IS PLAYING AT A PRO BOWL LEVEL AFTER 2 YEARS AND PENIX IS UNPROVEN do you dump a top 10 QB for an unproven QB when 1st round QBs bust at an 80 percent rate. What happens if Penix is below average or busts and Kirk goes to a team and continues playing at a top 10 level. TERRY RAHEEM WILL BE FIRED. What happens if they Keep Kirk but trade Penix (he won't stay here for 3 4 5 years). Then they should be fired for wasting the value of a top 10 pick - look how little top 10 QBs that don't pan out get traded for 4th round 6th round etc
Thats the point taking him in the first you have up to 5 years on a rookie deal. He really doesn't have a say in the matter. It also gives the Falcons the option to trade him for 1st round picks.
@@jessesmith438 You won't get 1dt round picks 1st round QBs that don't work out with their drafting team never recoup their value Lance 4th Fields 6th etc He has 2 choices don't sign YOU GET TO GO BACK INTO THE DRAFT next year and second choice HOLD OUT teams will not allow hold outs you really think he will wait for more than 2 years coe on man
@@jessesmith438 You really don't get 5 years; you need to decide after year 3 if you want to pick up that option.
If Penix is anything less that a top 10 qb, you have to imagine this FO is getting fired anyway, they really haven't done anything to justify keeping them.
The Cope in the comment section makes me wanna vomit
I noticed every single Locked On channel doesn't kmow jack squat about Football or the teama they cover. What a scam company. 😂
On draft night I thought it was a bad pick. After a week of watching games from Penix's last season i think it's worse than I thought. He made some great throws but more often than not he made horrible throws. More often than not he made bad reads. More often than not he wasn't accurate. Penix would have been a great pick at 43 but not at 8. They should've taken Rome or Turner at 8.
Rome bailed Penix out so often.