What GoPro setting did you find the most interesting? Want me to dive deeper into a camera related subject? Also, I *DO* know of one gimbal that'll work with the hero 7, but I'm sure you can't guess what it is. I'll cover that in another video. ;)
Great and exceedingly helpful. Thanks again. RIP to the Hero 7 you used for the autopsy 😂. Question: what sound level do you bring your audio down to while editing/rendering? -3, -4??
If I'm using my pro gear? I record in -12, edit in -3. This video I edited in -6 and left out music because i didn't want people ears getting fatigued since the topic was all about sound quality.
Was going to say, my 7 and Karma work very well. Which is a huge leap, compared to my 5. Because I can hear the motors and button presses, whenever I used it. It was very annoying.
Great vid! For a Hero7 + gimbal solution, what about recording in stereo raw and only keeping the left audio channel (the one on top of the camera). If the camera doesn’t throttle the gain over to the right hand side mic for whatever reason, you should be able to dump the right side audio track and be left with a decent sounding mono track with little to no motor noise, no? I think I’m gonna have to go try this today 🤔
You can try that, but I'm pretty confident you're going to lose a lot of fidelity. You run the risk of the audio being pretty flat. There is a simple fix for this, and I've messaged EVO about it, so the ball is in their court now. 😉
I do exactly this, and you can get a feel for what happens from my latest vids (ruclips.net/video/rs6rp7NP6y/видео.html skip to halfway to get some footage without music overlay).
Yeah the gimbal noise is killing me its not just the evo that has the problem my ghetto gimbal does too a lot worst with a Dead cat on it too I didnt even think about killing the right channel though thanks for that.
This is really helpful! I use the G6 with hero7 & mic adaptor & have spent loads of time trying to find the best set up re audio/motor hum etc. You've given me some fresh ideas to experiment further so thanks!
Thanks! I live here in N.Italy 🇮🇹 and just got a hero 7 for my mt climbs, road and trail rides. These tutorials will be helpful. So I’ve subscribed to your channel. Thanks!!!
Excellent video! I was so bummed when I purchased a gimbal for my session 5 and found out the noise issue first hand. I do a lot of hiking and its dead quite so you hear everything! I ended up doing separate audio with a sony digital audio recorder and the mic you use in this video, but it was a pain to turn on and off both constantly and editing was no fun at all having to sync every clip.. I just bought a hero7 and am adding an external mic and this tutorial really helped me understand the characteristics of the hero7 audio both with and without a external mic. They need to design a gimbal with a built in microphone that is isolated from the motor vibration some how.. Thanks again!
I have a feeling VanCan isn't going to sell his karma grip..... but I'm sure I can convince him to give it up 😈- Great video Joseph! I love how you help us audio noobs and go to the next level for the pro-sumers!
Hahaha! The most valuable thing he owns at this point! 💎 Thanks! I like to give scalable knowledge so people can get going fast but dive deeper when they're ready to get more advanced. 🤓
Just stumbled onto your channel and have to say I really appreciate all the information you shared here. I personally am very weak in the area of audio and this was very helpful
This is a very good video. I went and bought the audio adapter and mic as well. I mainly use my GoPro for metal concerts. But with the mics I have used the audio is terrible and unusable. Sounds like cracking and popping the whole time. Just using the onboard mics sound ok I guess. But once you explained raw audio; i set it to high. And it opened up a whole new world. Thank you so much for this video
I don't even own a hero 7, but found this intriguing. I have a couple questions as I am thinking of going that route. With the windslayer did you experience any overheating? I'm guessing not as it looked chilly, but summer in Texas has me concerned. In the past I've run a lav mic into my phone to avoid buying the GoPro adapter, and synced the audio later. Have you had any luck with that type of setup? Appreciate this video! Should help a bunch of people.
It's been way too cold to do any good heat tests. 🥶 The back screen isn't covered so hopefully that acts enough of a heatsink to cool the camera. I try to avoid syncing extra audio when I can, it becomes a pita for longer clips.
@@TrailFeatures I hope the Texas heat won't completely destroy this thing lol. The software I use has an automatic sync by audio feature and it's an absolute game changer! Saves me so much time when I use the lav. Hope to see you at Spider Mountain!
Really great stuff Joe. Super in depth and quality content as usual. I’m still not 100% sold on the audio of the Hero7, but boy does it make the Hero4 look old. Can’t wait to get your thoughts on the ideal gimbal design.
Trail Features I’ve got to imagine they are working on something for the Hero7 right? I mean this has been an issue since the Hero5 so they’ve had time to come up with a solution better than smash the audio to ignore gimbal noise like the Karma. I’m not saying it’s an easy problem, but it should be surmountable.
Ive been using the evo and hero 4 myself... But I think with this new setup I would be willing to switch it up next time. Unless they come out with a waterproof/smash proof gimbal for a reasonable price.
Well thank you for this kind and understandeable explanation how it works and what kind of microphones does GoPro has. Few days ago I get GoPro 7 Black and I knew that on road (mine is hybrid, not electric) bike wind makes horrible noise, so I went in fabrics store and got 0,7 m square of some close to rurry looking fabric. Later I made a wind killer for my GoPro and actually it works very well. You can see it on my latest video I uploaded yesterday. Fabric price was about 4€
A great in-depth review. It convinces me that the improvements are still not really that great for a motorcycle without an external microphone. My current hero 5 black is not up to scratch and I would not outlay the asking price for the hero 7 without monumental audio improvements and I am now convinced they are not there yet.
Very interesting! I've been using the wind setting for audio. Its not great but I think I might try a windslayer and stereo. I'm not sure how its going to do in heat. I've noticed the Hero 7 Black gets hot even in the cooler months. Worst case, it overheats and I have to just take it off and have crappier audio haha.
I have a go pro 7 and windslayer. The windslayer makes a big difference and audio sounds pretty good in stereo mode. It does over heat on a hot day, not much you can do about it. But the trick I do is have the Slayer in a cooling pack with ice in a bag to keep the Slayer cool for a while before I use it and it helps keep the go pro at a good temperature. It works. I wouldn't recommend cutting sections off the front of the wind Slayer, doing that will just allow more wind noise to squeeze through. It's best left the way as it is as a complete sleeve.
Very informative. One question: Once I've set the camera to Protune On and enabled Stereo mode, if I disable Protune will it hold the Stereo audio setting? I think that's what you said, but theres no real way of knowing without doing some testing, which I'm hoping you've done. Thanks!
Thanks for this! Really great video with lots of good info. My experience with the hero 7 and a lav mic is that I and the trail noise sounded pretty good but the mic didn't pick up any of the conversation around me. Your mic seemed to do a better job of picking up conversation so I'd chalk my experience up to using a cheap lav mic. I'm still not sold on hyper smooth footage vs the gimbal so I think I'm going to be sticking to the evo SS and hero 4 setup for my main pov camera and try to use the hero 7 for other interesting but secondary shots.
A good mic is worth the money. It may have been a directional mic as well, so that could have been another cause. The hyper smooth is the best application of digital stabilization I've seen in a while, but it's still not up to par with a good gimbal setup.
You were recommending a windslayer (black foam cover) under protune stero only for the Hero 7 black, correct? I got a little confused if you were talking about the hero 4 or both at that point. Really nice video. After watching this I looked into how the "wind mic" works more and could not find much info. I take it when you use "stereo only" the wind mic is essentially getting turned off? Also really interesting how you can use stereo only, and if i understood correctly record raw sound to get information from all three mics as a form of backup when doing something perhaps more critical.
This was fantastic! Feel like you covered all the bases. Been looking to do something with the audio setup on my hero 7 because I just haven't been all that happy with it. I've used a windslayer but had considered getting the audio adapter and using a lav mic. Do you think that's worth the upgrade or do you see a bigger benefit in just really getting the audio edited properly in post production once you have the right protune settings? Thanks man, keep it up!
It comes down to if the audio sounds good enough to you out of the camera. If you can comfortably afford the adapter and mic, then it’s worth it. If not, get the most out of the GoPro while you save up.
Have you heard of an app called *MYK* ?? It basically turns your _phone_ into a _wireless mic_ for your _GoPro._ Then you could run a lav from your phone and get some killer audio with a gimbal.
Great info. Just invested in the mic adapter. Still silly expensive for something that older gopros did out of the box. Just a minute correction. The frequencies are not 1000kilohertz, they're 1khz or 1000htz. 1000khz, or 1mhz, is wayyyy outside of the human audible range. ;)
This is great! I really want to try out that sony mic and rode lav mic. I know you saw my purple panda one and I appreciate your tips regarding the raw audio. I'm excited to give that a shot and it should help me improve my audio further, but the ore I lsiten to the purple panda it just has this quality I'm not sure I am a fan of. Thus why I'd like to the try the others. However, I might just try the windslayer and raw audio with the internal and call it a day. I just need to get those mics first and see if those give me what I am looking for with the external audio quality.
my guess about protune quality is that the internal encoder profile is just tuned for file size rather than raw data, as protune would be for better post processing / colour grading. it does this by storing a higher bitrate stream. thoughts?
Thanks for this tutorial. Nice. So, what if I was using the Hero 7 in the rain and I don't want to get popping sounds in the top mic would the rain sound be ok with only the front wind mic? Or is there a better way to do it as in some cover or foam or the like?
I would use the internal microphones with a foam wind slayer over the GoPro. This will give you good sound in the rain with minimal peaking due to raindrops hitting near the microphone.
@@TrailFeatures I see. My fear with the slayer was that with the slayer wrapped around the H7, it would get literally soaked like a sponge and definitely not pocketable.
It's the lesser of evils at that point. Anything that will keep wind noise down will soak up water. You could throw it in a ziplock bag if you want to keep the water from soaking a pocket.
@@TrailFeatures gotcha. ima try it with turning to the front (wind) mic only and see if that does it and if not and worse comes to worse, I'll just record via an outdoor mic and the zoom h6. thanks for the input.
Hero 4 black indeed sounded better! Thanks for this, we have the gopro hero 7, gonna vlog with it, don’t need a mic now. But i have one question, i’f you tap on to the cam do you hear that in the video? Else, i would like to have the rode mic.
do you mind sharing the best audio settings for when you are on a fast trail on your mountain bike? (including wind slayer) should i fiddle with low raw audio file?
Pretty much the same settings. After a certain point, it's impossible to block wind noise. I personally think it adds to immersion of the video. Jordan Boostmaster used an add-on mic on his hero that had a great wind cover on it, so when you heard the wind rushing by you KNEW he was hauling!
Old video but priceless. Just got my Gopro H7 as a second camera together with my H8 and waiting for the gimbal to arrive. This saved me a lot of wasted effort to tune the sound. Now I know that I won't be getting any good sound from the gimbal-attached H7. Instead I need to rely the H8 and probably external mic & raw audio.
Hi Trail Features, do you have a video about the best video settings for the gopro hero7 black? I have one and no gimbal, I plan on using it on a chestie with your audio settings, however I'm wondering about the best all around video settings for set and go... with someone that doesn't want to mess with the video in post and just cut/upload. Great vid!
Hi, some very informative info in your video regarding hero 7 Black audio, overall the audio is ok for me, the main issue I have right now is when I use the hero 7 on my motorcycle, I use the Ulanzi cage so I can mount the external mike adapter neatly and near the camera, my mike is Lavalier ,basic model, my sound quality id good until I start riding and I have a fair amount of what sounds like clicking which obviously is not good, connections are all sound and mike is good as used the set up on my Hero 4, would appreciate your input re this issue? Many thanks, Derek
That could be a lot of things, very hard to troubleshoot without putting hands on it. It could be that vibrations are traveling up the cable to the lav mic. Some more affordable lav mics don’t have good vibration dampening built into the cable shield. That’s honestly the most I can think of. like I said really hard to troubleshoot that without seeing it in person.
Thank you so much for this video and for what you do. Although it did not help me resolve my problem I still did learn quit a bit from the video, that’s you for that. I’m hoping you can help me with the problem I have? I have a GoPro 7 black. Want to do a motovlog, purchased a purple panda mic, and purchased the mic adapter. Not getting any audio when I use the mic, if I record without the mic no problem. Returned both the mic, and adapter even though they checked our during my checks. Still no audio? I do believe the problem is something simple, that’s why I got excited when I say your video, I thought ooh maybe it has something to do with the mic setting, or recording in raw. Well I was disappointed to find out neither was the problem. So if you have any suggestions it would be greatly appreciated. Again thank you for what you do, I will from now on be a regular watcher of your videos, and yes I did subscribe.
Newbie RUclipsr here! Thank you for an excellent detailed review.👍🏾😁 I have shot a couple videos with my new hero 7 Black . And i was looking for the mic function and location info. So i have been using the wind setting and a windslayer. Useable but not good audio. Im also experimenting with the feiyutech wg2x. Unlike the Evo ss , the wg2x seems to be designed with the hero 5,6,7 model in mind. The evo ss was not designed with the newer gopro heroes in mind. So the Evo ss motor has to work extra hard and is, as you know noisey as heck. So evo created a "coin hack" counter balance that they sell to be placed on the side of one of the motors to balance the 5,6,7,👎🏽...i will see if i can schedule time to my review of the WG2X with the hero 7.. thanks again. - Sam
Link to Evo SS video about counter balance. Smh ruclips.net/video/e5rO_jsqE_A/видео.html Maybe/ Hopefully Evo will make a more compatible gimbal BUT as you know . The stabilization on the 7 is daam good. -Sam
Do you - or anyone reading this - know the proper settings for a person trying to motovlog with GoPro7 and the audio adapter? I've tried changing the raw setting you mentioned and no matter what combination of settings I try, there is no sound when I plug in the sound adapter. Thanks.
Hello, I'm hoping you can help me. I'm on my 2nd sound adapter I've received from GoPro - the 2nd one was a replacement. Basically, if I plug in my purple panda or the mic I use for my PS4 controller, there's no sound. I can hear myself with the sound adapter only plugged in, not a mic. I've messed with settings by changing raw audio from off to High and I've changed from standard mic to mic+ and also line in. I'm wondering if you think this might be a settings issue or if the sound should work by default. Because I'm thinking 1 of 4 things: the sound adapters do not work with GoPro 7, both the ones I've received are defective, there's a setting wrong, or I need a replacement GoPro 7 camera. I don't feel like there's a glaring setting that I'm missing, but most vids I see, it seems their cameras can work with audio, without them even tweaking the settings.
First thing I would do is make sure you have the correct microphone. TRS and TRRS look very similar, but TRRS will not work when plugged into a TRS style plug which is what the GoPro adapter uses. monopricesupport.kayako.com/article/102-what-is-the-difference-between-ts-trs-and-trrs
Is it real stereo recording? How is it possible if one microphone (right chanel?)is on the top? I have Gopro7 and stereo sound is strenge. Sound sources on the right is difficult to locate. What's yours expirience with stereo picture?
You have a valid point, but it technically is stereo; just poorly implemented. To be honest, I've gone back to the Sony lav because the true stereo is so immersive with headphones.
I feel silly for asking this, but to me GoPro settings and the way they are labeled confuse me. I watched another video that seemed to suggest using the wind mode is best for combatting wind noise while riding a motorcycle. This video made me rethink what the settings actually meant. To reduce wind noise while recording on a motorcycle do I actually want to select Stereo mode in the GoPro audio settings???
The wind setting will indeed reduce wind noise. However, at a big sacrifice to overall audio quality. The best thing to do is use dead cats patches or foam to cover the microphones. This will let sound through, but greatly reduce the wind noise.
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What GoPro setting did you find the most interesting? Want me to dive deeper into a camera related subject?
Also, I *DO* know of one gimbal that'll work with the hero 7, but I'm sure you can't guess what it is. I'll cover that in another video. ;)
Great and exceedingly helpful. Thanks again. RIP to the Hero 7 you used for the autopsy 😂. Question: what sound level do you bring your audio down to while editing/rendering? -3, -4??
If I'm using my pro gear? I record in -12, edit in -3. This video I edited in -6 and left out music because i didn't want people ears getting fatigued since the topic was all about sound quality.
Was going to say, my 7 and Karma work very well. Which is a huge leap, compared to my 5. Because I can hear the motors and button presses, whenever I used it. It was very annoying.
Cant wait for a video showing all your Gopro mounts, attachments, and accessories you own and use often on your adventures.
Thank you for showing
I'm blown away by the production value and all the information in this video! Thanks for putting this out!
Dude... Major props for being able to keep me entertained through a 20 minute video! 👏
Also...seriously tho... We all appreciate you for this 🤘🏼
Hahaha! The benchmark of a good video!
Great vid! For a Hero7 + gimbal solution, what about recording in stereo raw and only keeping the left audio channel (the one on top of the camera). If the camera doesn’t throttle the gain over to the right hand side mic for whatever reason, you should be able to dump the right side audio track and be left with a decent sounding mono track with little to no motor noise, no?
I think I’m gonna have to go try this today 🤔
You can try that, but I'm pretty confident you're going to lose a lot of fidelity. You run the risk of the audio being pretty flat.
There is a simple fix for this, and I've messaged EVO about it, so the ball is in their court now. 😉
@@TrailFeatures a new Gopro bracket with adjustable placement perhaps?
If using the evo, unfortunately, the mount/clamp from the gimbal covers that mic hole perfectly...
I do exactly this, and you can get a feel for what happens from my latest vids (ruclips.net/video/rs6rp7NP6y/видео.html skip to halfway to get some footage without music overlay).
Yeah the gimbal noise is killing me its not just the evo that has the problem my ghetto gimbal does too a lot worst with a Dead cat on it too I didnt even think about killing the right channel though thanks for that.
This is really helpful! I use the G6 with hero7 & mic adaptor & have spent loads of time trying to find the best set up re audio/motor hum etc. You've given me some fresh ideas to experiment further so thanks!
Thanks! I live here in N.Italy 🇮🇹 and just got a hero 7 for my mt climbs, road and trail rides. These tutorials will be helpful. So I’ve subscribed to your channel. Thanks!!!
You have mastered the audio settings... KUDOS.. Thanks a lot for helping us for knowing all these audio things....
Excellent video! I was so bummed when I purchased a gimbal for my session 5 and found out the noise issue first hand. I do a lot of hiking and its dead quite so you hear everything! I ended up doing separate audio with a sony digital audio recorder and the mic you use in this video, but it was a pain to turn on and off both constantly and editing was no fun at all having to sync every clip.. I just bought a hero7 and am adding an external mic and this tutorial really helped me understand the characteristics of the hero7 audio both with and without a external mic. They need to design a gimbal with a built in microphone that is isolated from the motor vibration some how.. Thanks again!
Appreciate the helpful tips, top notch production quality.
Nice vid! Jist got the GPH7. I appreciate the info. Being a musician it's good to know about the frequencies on the raw settings. All the best!
Hey that was great going through all the settings and stuff.
Much appreciated!
I have a feeling VanCan isn't going to sell his karma grip..... but I'm sure I can convince him to give it up 😈- Great video Joseph! I love how you help us audio noobs and go to the next level for the pro-sumers!
Hahaha! The most valuable thing he owns at this point! 💎
Thanks! I like to give scalable knowledge so people can get going fast but dive deeper when they're ready to get more advanced. 🤓
Just stumbled onto your channel and have to say I really appreciate all the information you shared here. I personally am very weak in the area of audio and this was very helpful
Whoa, Lake Pueblo. No matter what mic, you can never mistake the sound of riding on shale..
This is a very good video. I went and bought the audio adapter and mic as well. I mainly use my GoPro for metal concerts. But with the mics I have used the audio is terrible and unusable. Sounds like cracking and popping the whole time. Just using the onboard mics sound ok I guess. But once you explained raw audio; i set it to high. And it opened up a whole new world. Thank you so much for this video
I don't even own a hero 7, but found this intriguing. I have a couple questions as I am thinking of going that route. With the windslayer did you experience any overheating? I'm guessing not as it looked chilly, but summer in Texas has me concerned. In the past I've run a lav mic into my phone to avoid buying the GoPro adapter, and synced the audio later. Have you had any luck with that type of setup? Appreciate this video! Should help a bunch of people.
It's been way too cold to do any good heat tests. 🥶 The back screen isn't covered so hopefully that acts enough of a heatsink to cool the camera. I try to avoid syncing extra audio when I can, it becomes a pita for longer clips.
@@TrailFeatures I hope the Texas heat won't completely destroy this thing lol. The software I use has an automatic sync by audio feature and it's an absolute game changer! Saves me so much time when I use the lav. Hope to see you at Spider Mountain!
thank you for doing this for me i just got a go pro and this video was really helpful for me
Glad it was helpful!
Really great stuff Joe. Super in depth and quality content as usual. I’m still not 100% sold on the audio of the Hero7, but boy does it make the Hero4 look old. Can’t wait to get your thoughts on the ideal gimbal design.
I've actually been pestering the folks over at EVO, but they aren't returning my messages. 😞
Trail Features I’ve got to imagine they are working on something for the Hero7 right? I mean this has been an issue since the Hero5 so they’ve had time to come up with a solution better than smash the audio to ignore gimbal noise like the Karma. I’m not saying it’s an easy problem, but it should be surmountable.
Super well done Joe, there's a lot of good info here!
Thanks, man!
So thankful you're a member of the 9 year old army. Awesome video!
VERY INFORMATIVE.. !! Loved it man
Very good and helpful video, thank you...
this video help a lot. Thanks man
Ive been using the evo and hero 4 myself... But I think with this new setup I would be willing to switch it up next time. Unless they come out with a waterproof/smash proof gimbal for a reasonable price.
Nice Video. It confirms what I was thinking about the sound on the GoPro Hero Black 7.
Great job with this, dyude, super-INFAAHMITIVE.
Haha! Thanks!
great one. I have the 7 and not even thinking of switching soon. Thank you
Thanks for the great video. Just got a 7B and am getting everyone's opinions on audio, low-light hypersmooth, etc. Thanks!
This is really great information Joesph, I actually bookmarked this for reference! Cheers!
I hope it helps a lot of people!
Well thank you for this kind and understandeable explanation how it works and what kind of microphones does GoPro has.
Few days ago I get GoPro 7 Black and I knew that on road (mine is hybrid, not electric) bike wind makes horrible noise, so I went in fabrics store and got 0,7 m square of some close to rurry looking fabric. Later I made a wind killer for my GoPro and actually it works very well. You can see it on my latest video I uploaded yesterday. Fabric price was about 4€
A great in-depth
review. It convinces me that the improvements are still not really that great for a motorcycle without
an external microphone. My current hero
5 black is not up to scratch and I would not outlay the asking price for the
hero 7 without monumental audio improvements and I am now convinced they are
not there yet.
Excellent info. Thank you!
excellent
Awesome investigation in a geeky way. now figured out how they do with wind noise without shield . Reverse phased gimbal noise could mask the noise:)
Thanks for the video. Really helpful. Have a good one!
Very interesting! I've been using the wind setting for audio. Its not great but I think I might try a windslayer and stereo. I'm not sure how its going to do in heat. I've noticed the Hero 7 Black gets hot even in the cooler months. Worst case, it overheats and I have to just take it off and have crappier audio haha.
You could always cut away some of the front section. You just need to make sure the mics are well covered.
But for sure, stop using that wind mic!
I have a go pro 7 and windslayer. The windslayer makes a big difference and audio sounds pretty good in stereo mode. It does over heat on a hot day, not much you can do about it. But the trick I do is have the Slayer in a cooling pack with ice in a bag to keep the Slayer cool for a while before I use it and it helps keep the go pro at a good temperature. It works. I wouldn't recommend cutting sections off the front of the wind Slayer, doing that will just allow more wind noise to squeeze through. It's best left the way as it is as a complete sleeve.
Been looking for a video about this for a while now to improve my own videos!
Thanks for making this video man!
No problem! Glad it helped you!
Very informative. Really helped when setting up my gopro thanks!
Glad it helped!
Great Video! Thanks! 👍
Very informative. One question: Once I've set the camera to Protune On and enabled Stereo mode, if I disable Protune will it hold the Stereo audio setting? I think that's what you said, but theres no real way of knowing without doing some testing, which I'm hoping you've done.
Thanks!
I assumed Protune has to stay on, surely if you turn protune off all setting you had set will go back to what it was before.
This video helped an awful lot. Thank you. Can you get a raw audio track for the external mic too?
Excellent video on the topic. Thanks!
thank you for making this video helped alot
Tks for sharing
Glad you liked it!
Thanks for making this video
Tuked - portmanteau adj.: tuned or tweaked :)
Thanks for this! Really great video with lots of good info. My experience with the hero 7 and a lav mic is that I and the trail noise sounded pretty good but the mic didn't pick up any of the conversation around me. Your mic seemed to do a better job of picking up conversation so I'd chalk my experience up to using a cheap lav mic. I'm still not sold on hyper smooth footage vs the gimbal so I think I'm going to be sticking to the evo SS and hero 4 setup for my main pov camera and try to use the hero 7 for other interesting but secondary shots.
A good mic is worth the money. It may have been a directional mic as well, so that could have been another cause.
The hyper smooth is the best application of digital stabilization I've seen in a while, but it's still not up to par with a good gimbal setup.
@@TrailFeatures I agree, Hypersmooth is amazing and makes totally watchable MTB POV footage. I just prefer the feel of gimbal footage.
You were recommending a windslayer (black foam cover) under protune stero only for the Hero 7 black, correct? I got a little confused if you were talking about the hero 4 or both at that point. Really nice video. After watching this I looked into how the "wind mic" works more and could not find much info. I take it when you use "stereo only" the wind mic is essentially getting turned off? Also really interesting how you can use stereo only, and if i understood correctly record raw sound to get information from all three mics as a form of backup when doing something perhaps more critical.
When you use the windslayer, do you have the audio set to auto or stereo?
I pretty much leave it in stereo all the time.
Trail Features Thanks! EVO SS just crapped out for the last time🤨 I’m going with the 7 Black for simplicity. Awesome video! Thanks for the advice😊
This was fantastic! Feel like you covered all the bases. Been looking to do something with the audio setup on my hero 7 because I just haven't been all that happy with it. I've used a windslayer but had considered getting the audio adapter and using a lav mic. Do you think that's worth the upgrade or do you see a bigger benefit in just really getting the audio edited properly in post production once you have the right protune settings? Thanks man, keep it up!
Protune really takes a lot of work to get it dialed. I'd say that if you never plan on using a gimbal, the external mic is the way to go.
@@TrailFeatures Right on! Thanks again!
Thank you, thank you, thank you. Awesome informative video. You are the man.
Greetings from Austria!
Thanks,great video
Really great information! I'm thinking if I really need to purchase a mic or get the most of the gopro audio itself? What do you reckon?
It comes down to if the audio sounds good enough to you out of the camera. If you can comfortably afford the adapter and mic, then it’s worth it. If not, get the most out of the GoPro while you save up.
Thanks Joseph, your videos are always helpful and educational, oh and entertaining! I'm still thinking the 7 Black its the way to go.
Glad you found it helpful! The hero 7 isn't terrible, it just needs a little more setup than we're used to.
Hey Joseph, nice job on this. Always informative.
Glad it helped!
5:25 you were going to say "here 7 black set to auto on the micro phone setting" ?
No, I set it to wind to show how bad that mic is. As mentioned, the H7B always favors that front mic for some silly reason.
Have you heard of an app called *MYK* ?? It basically turns your _phone_ into a _wireless mic_ for your _GoPro._
Then you could run a lav from your phone and get some killer audio with a gimbal.
Hi there ,is there no input out put on the seven silver?
Great video. Can't wait to get my son out on the trails so he can start experimenting with his 7black!
Glad it was helpful!
Great info. Just invested in the mic adapter. Still silly expensive for something that older gopros did out of the box.
Just a minute correction. The frequencies are not 1000kilohertz, they're 1khz or 1000htz. 1000khz, or 1mhz, is wayyyy outside of the human audible range. ;)
This is great! I really want to try out that sony mic and rode lav mic. I know you saw my purple panda one and I appreciate your tips regarding the raw audio. I'm excited to give that a shot and it should help me improve my audio further, but the ore I lsiten to the purple panda it just has this quality I'm not sure I am a fan of. Thus why I'd like to the try the others. However, I might just try the windslayer and raw audio with the internal and call it a day. I just need to get those mics first and see if those give me what I am looking for with the external audio quality.
I was impressed with the windslayer + stereo mics. It's not perfect, but ~80-90% of what the Hero 4 was.
my guess about protune quality is that the internal encoder profile is just tuned for file size rather than raw data, as protune would be for better post processing / colour grading. it does this by storing a higher bitrate stream. thoughts?
Good on you mate 👍🏻
Thanks!
Have you found any better work around for the audio with Hero 7 and the Evo gimbal?
Fantastic and informative - thanks for making this video!
No problem!
Awesome video! Very informative. 👍
Glad it was helpful!
We have the new IDOLCAM VlogStar V2 shotgun/Lavalier microphone in one, small size, perfect for GoPro, can we send you one to you to play with?
Thanks for this tutorial. Nice. So, what if I was using the Hero 7 in the rain and I don't want to get popping sounds in the top mic would the rain sound be ok with only the front wind mic? Or is there a better way to do it as in some cover or foam or the like?
I would use the internal microphones with a foam wind slayer over the GoPro. This will give you good sound in the rain with minimal peaking due to raindrops hitting near the microphone.
@@TrailFeatures I see. My fear with the slayer was that with the slayer wrapped around the H7, it would get literally soaked like a sponge and definitely not pocketable.
It's the lesser of evils at that point. Anything that will keep wind noise down will soak up water. You could throw it in a ziplock bag if you want to keep the water from soaking a pocket.
@@TrailFeatures gotcha. ima try it with turning to the front (wind) mic only and see if that does it and if not and worse comes to worse, I'll just record via an outdoor mic and the zoom h6. thanks for the input.
nice video, im trying to get rid of my motor noise flying my paramotor any suggestions?
Great video love your videos, I would love a goro hero 7 but I'm broke so I'll stick with my Amazon V50 pro
Make the most of the camera you've got!
Great Job Joseph - very extensive!
Where do I pick up my Diploma?
Just seed $100 to my PO box and I'll ship it out! ;)
great vid as always. I love geeky stuff like this.
Thanks, man!
I have a go pro 8 fresh out the box. I recorded a video and the volume was very very low.. is there a way to turn up the volume on the GoPro itself🤔
Hero 4 black indeed sounded better! Thanks for this, we have the gopro hero 7, gonna vlog with it, don’t need a mic now. But i have one question, i’f you tap on to the cam do you hear that in the video? Else, i would like to have the rode mic.
I have an external mic but I didn't understand what option should I use. Should I use stereo mod for external mic too ?
Awesome video
Thanks!
Interesting, i will try your setup. I turn on stereo on mics and high on raw setting, lets see how it's work.. btw thanks for the tips
do you mind sharing the best audio settings for when you are on a fast trail on your mountain bike? (including wind slayer) should i fiddle with low raw audio file?
Pretty much the same settings. After a certain point, it's impossible to block wind noise. I personally think it adds to immersion of the video. Jordan Boostmaster used an add-on mic on his hero that had a great wind cover on it, so when you heard the wind rushing by you KNEW he was hauling!
Old video but priceless. Just got my Gopro H7 as a second camera together with my H8 and waiting for the gimbal to arrive. This saved me a lot of wasted effort to tune the sound. Now I know that I won't be getting any good sound from the gimbal-attached H7. Instead I need to rely the H8 and probably external mic & raw audio.
Your thumbnail said "turn your Gopro audio level to 11", is there really such a setting? Thanks
Can you use it for asmr videos? Can you set it to 3D audio
Thank you.
Hi Trail Features, do you have a video about the best video settings for the gopro hero7 black? I have one and no gimbal, I plan on using it on a chestie with your audio settings, however I'm wondering about the best all around video settings for set and go... with someone that doesn't want to mess with the video in post and just cut/upload. Great vid!
Not yet, but I do plan on doing one later on. Leaving the settings on default (for protune video settings) will be fine in the mean time.
@@TrailFeatures Will do for now and look forward to your vid.
Hi, some very informative info in your video regarding hero 7 Black audio, overall the audio is ok for me, the main issue I have right now is when I use the hero 7 on my motorcycle, I use the Ulanzi cage so I can mount the external mike adapter neatly and near the camera, my mike is Lavalier ,basic model, my sound quality id good until I start riding and I have a fair amount of what sounds like clicking which obviously is not good, connections are all sound and mike is good as used the set up on my Hero 4, would appreciate your input re this issue? Many thanks, Derek
That could be a lot of things, very hard to troubleshoot without putting hands on it. It could be that vibrations are traveling up the cable to the lav mic. Some more affordable lav mics don’t have good vibration dampening built into the cable shield.
That’s honestly the most I can think of. like I said really hard to troubleshoot that without seeing it in person.
THHANK YOU... I have a small vlog and I use the GoPro 7 to vlog. Thanks alot for the tips
Can u use the internal and external mic at the same time
Are u in new mexico? It would be cool to sit down and learn from u as a bigger I could use al the help I can get.
Thank you so much for this video and for what you do. Although it did not help me resolve my problem I still did learn quit a bit from the video, that’s you for that. I’m hoping you can help me with the problem I have? I have a GoPro 7 black. Want to do a motovlog, purchased a purple panda mic, and purchased the mic adapter. Not getting any audio when I use the mic, if I record without the mic no problem. Returned both the mic, and adapter even though they checked our during my checks. Still no audio? I do believe the problem is something simple, that’s why I got excited when I say your video, I thought ooh maybe it has something to do with the mic setting, or recording in raw. Well I was disappointed to find out neither was the problem. So if you have any suggestions it would be greatly appreciated. Again thank you for what you do, I will from now on be a regular watcher of your videos, and yes I did subscribe.
Will the GoPro Hero7 Black support a bluetooth microphone?
Nice job -- very interesting --
Newbie RUclipsr here! Thank you for an excellent detailed review.👍🏾😁 I have shot a couple videos with my new hero 7 Black . And i was looking for the mic function and location info. So i have been using the wind setting and a windslayer. Useable but not good audio. Im also experimenting with the feiyutech wg2x. Unlike the Evo ss , the wg2x seems to be designed with the hero 5,6,7 model in mind. The evo ss was not designed with the newer gopro heroes in mind. So the Evo ss motor has to work extra hard and is, as you know noisey as heck. So evo created a "coin hack" counter balance that they sell to be placed on the side of one of the motors to balance the 5,6,7,👎🏽...i will see if i can schedule time to my review of the WG2X with the hero 7.. thanks again.
- Sam
Link to Evo SS video about counter balance. Smh ruclips.net/video/e5rO_jsqE_A/видео.html
Maybe/ Hopefully Evo will make a more compatible gimbal BUT as you know . The stabilization on the 7 is daam good.
-Sam
Yeah, there is a lot more that needs to be done to the Evo SS to get it to work well with the Hero 5-7.
do you leave the case on?
Do you - or anyone reading this - know the proper settings for a person trying to motovlog with GoPro7 and the audio adapter? I've tried changing the raw setting you mentioned and no matter what combination of settings I try, there is no sound when I plug in the sound adapter. Thanks.
What type of camera did you use to record this video?
Fuji x-t3
Hello, I'm hoping you can help me. I'm on my 2nd sound adapter I've received from GoPro - the 2nd one was a replacement. Basically, if I plug in my purple panda or the mic I use for my PS4 controller, there's no sound. I can hear myself with the sound adapter only plugged in, not a mic. I've messed with settings by changing raw audio from off to High and I've changed from standard mic to mic+ and also line in. I'm wondering if you think this might be a settings issue or if the sound should work by default. Because I'm thinking 1 of 4 things: the sound adapters do not work with GoPro 7, both the ones I've received are defective, there's a setting wrong, or I need a replacement GoPro 7 camera. I don't feel like there's a glaring setting that I'm missing, but most vids I see, it seems their cameras can work with audio, without them even tweaking the settings.
First thing I would do is make sure you have the correct microphone. TRS and TRRS look very similar, but TRRS will not work when plugged into a TRS style plug which is what the GoPro adapter uses.
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Is it real stereo recording? How is it possible if one microphone (right chanel?)is on the top? I have Gopro7 and stereo sound is strenge. Sound sources on the right is difficult to locate. What's yours expirience with stereo picture?
You have a valid point, but it technically is stereo; just poorly implemented. To be honest, I've gone back to the Sony lav because the true stereo is so immersive with headphones.
Is it just me... Or does the stereo setting work better in the wind. vs the actual wind setting?!
The less you let the GoPro decide for itself what settings to use, thee better results you get.
can i do this on the hero 7 silver?
I feel silly for asking this, but to me GoPro settings and the way they are labeled confuse me. I watched another video that seemed to suggest using the wind mode is best for combatting wind noise while riding a motorcycle. This video made me rethink what the settings actually meant. To reduce wind noise while recording on a motorcycle do I actually want to select Stereo mode in the GoPro audio settings???
The wind setting will indeed reduce wind noise. However, at a big sacrifice to overall audio quality. The best thing to do is use dead cats patches or foam to cover the microphones. This will let sound through, but greatly reduce the wind noise.
I have Hero 7 Black (version 01.70) and when I go to Preference.input/output.audio input says N/A? (This question is posted 9-29-19)
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Nice.