I grew up in a Pentecostal church and had a prophet prophesy to me at the age of 9 years old that I had a lesbian spirit in me. I remember asking my grandma what is a “lesbian” after that church service. And the funny part is, this man was extremely feminine. He played the tambourine and all! I’ve been trying to reach out to him via Facebook to let him know he indeed could see the future bc I’ve been with my wife now for 13 years 🤷🏾♀️
Girl thank you for calling out the sexualization of young girls in Christian purity culture that none of the people calling lgbt "groomers" ever talks or thinks about. It's not that they're against "indoctrination" as a concept, they just want the "programming" to be THEIR responsibility alone.
I'm actually shocked by how many people are saying they never heard of virginity camp. I think back then it was actually called "purity camp" but still....... I thought this was normal.
I never went i almost did. But i never grew up in church either at first. My mom pretty much bred it into me at home. I guess purity school was taught to me, also with fast tail girl remarks. Dating is bad you have to date to marry, no sx till marrige yada yada
Once a ping ping has entered your temple you're not the same. Whether or not you were aware of the ping ping entering you or if you were a willing participant. Purity is a fitting term.
@@brittneydavis7846funny how none of these standards are applied to men. Smh. It’s just about controlling women’s bodies. It has nothing to do with “purity.” I’ve never heard anyone refer to a guy as being “un-pure” after losing their virginity.
I’ve had a ton of negative experiences with “Christian’s” and whew the stories I could tell. I’m sorry that you had to go through that. You looked so cute
the fact that virginity camp is brought onto adolescents and young teenagers is concerning... as hell. im so sorry you had to go through this!!! so glad that woman got fired and you had support. and the fact that you're tearing up years later discussing this is so sad :(
WOW 😮, the nerve of that lady!!!! Shame on her. You looked really pretty in your dress. And people need to stop with the judging, they get on my nerves 🙄
This weird fascination with virginity is so weird to me. I am German and grew up here (though in the North) and my parents were open with me as I am with my kids. Who cares if they had sex or not? It doesn't change anything about someone's value. If they want to have sex, they will. And I want them to be prepared with knowledge and contraception. We have a drawer in the bathroom filled with condoms, lube, etc. Everyone is free to take what they need no shame. If they want to have sex I'd rather they do it in my house where they can get help if it doesn't work out how they want it (or, worst case, their partner doesn't stop). I want my kids to be and feel safe and secure. That's my job as parent.
I remember I was once on a mission in my local city where we would evangelize to strangers and I was a teen (maybe 14 yo). I was told by the older woman in charge that I could not go out with them that day bc I had holes in my pants near my thighs. These were very small holes in my jeans and were from regular wear and tear. My family was super poor at the time and they were literally the only jeans I owned. This lady called me out in front of everyone there and publicly shamed me for something that was not my fault at all. She said they were inappropriate and would send the wrong message to people and I wasn't allowed to go with them. I just remember how terrible I felt and the shame from that day. I just cried in the bathroom after everyone left. The explicit misogyny and sexualization of girls is insane and I'm so glad I removed myself from that as an adult woman
Bizarre that I had almost the exact same experience! In my case it was school picture day at my baptist school. My mom and I had picked out the dress together and I was told by my teacher that my neckline was inappropriately low. They called my mom to bring me new clothes but she was not having it. The school refuses to take my picture in that dress so she took me home and we did a photo shoot together. I love my mom for that. Unfortunately, that experience and others at this school did leave scars that I am still working to overcome. I only started wearing crop tops and showing more skin in the last few years and honestly it is so freeing. I have dignity regardless of what I choose to wear and what I wear is my decision.
Even though I’m a Christian that’s always been my problem with church people. Regardless of the Bible it is not your place to tell people how to live or if they’re going to hell. And even if you do make suggestions, be kind. Most of the time they don’t make comments out of love, it comes from hate and judgement.
Chile I was at a Christian high school and I was in volleyball practice wearing Nike shorts and a tank top and the damn nurse had a nerve to say I was dressed “too revealing” because my shoulders were out. Meanwhile the basketball players were able to practice shirtless😑 They also tried to send me home from homecoming for wearing a long sleeve bodycon midi dress that was loosely fitting😒 And then they tried to hold my diploma because although my graduation dress reached my fingertips, the last inch of it was sheer🤦🏽♀️ Tbh I was much like you.. I wore braid + twist extensions, accessorized with jewelry and purses, and wore eyeliner and mascara when my mom finally let me at 16 lol I just think half of them were lowkey hating and using the fact that it was a Christian school to harass me for looking good.
Hey Ayana!!! I’m so glad that your mom handled that and didn’t let it ride!!! And people wonder what’s wrong with “SOME”of the youth today. Love this story time🙏🏽🥰
I’m so sorry you went through this. I’m happy your mom was on your side about the dress but to even send you to a camp like that in general is kind of insane, because yeah at that age, sex isn’t even something on the mind fr. I get why your trauma response would be to block this time out of your mind.
@@ayanafite I have never heard of virginity camp in my life. I went to Christian camp and loved it, but they didn’t even talk about sex. Camp was like regular sleep-away camp with a bit of VBS mixed in.
Wow! What a story. I’m sorry you went through that. I can tell you were indeed traumatized. You had a visceral reaction just talking about it. God bless the woman who fired her and supported you in the moment. I’m so grateful to have had a wonderful experience with my childhood church, it’s been quite the opposite assn adult looking for a home church, so I study and worship at home too. I miss the fellowship, but I can’t deal with the hypocrisy and foolishness going on in modern churches. So, I completely understand.
My girl you are not going to hell. I'm 99.999% sure God didn't come down and have a secret meeting with these people like "deliver this message to Ayana for me, I can't reach her" 😒 I love being a Christian, some of these Christian-Christians (yall know what I mean) judge you when you do go...and then judge you for not going😑
Ugh this reminds me so much of something I experienced just earlier this year at age 23. I’m in law school and I managed to make it all the way to the finals of this big moot court competition that’s a huge deal at my law school. I went to the reception for the judges in the afternoon before the competition and we were all just in our everyday clothes, so I had on a skater skirt and a crop top. My friend introduced me to the judge (an actual Virginia Supreme Court judge!) with “hi Judge, this is Sydney, she’s one of the competitors tonight!” And a professor of mine who was standing there POINTED ME UP AND DOWN in front of the judge and said “and she will not be wearing that tonight.” I was absolutely mortified. The judge didn’t say anything. No one said anything. We all just stood there in silence because it was so awkward. And it made it so much worse that the prof who said it was a woman too. I was so proud of myself for making it to the finals, and that one moment sticks in my head about that whole experience.
Bruh😳 as a devoted Christian myself (and have been one for a while) I cannot believe you went through this (well I can bc I know what said "Christians" are capable of but it's just ridiculous). I have never in my life heard of virginity camp wow, I hope you eventually heal from everything. I'm glad to hear you still have a connection with God and Jesus and I wish you a blessed and fruitful 2023 🥂💕
Omg … ! I remember Ms. Turner…. 😢 she definitely harassed tf out of us!!! I was in her office EVERY DAY for no reason at all. She told me I thought I was all that and a bag of chips but I’m not…….like who says that to a child??? She actually caused me so much trauma and I didn’t realize it until I was adult. SMH !
Ms.Turner sounds like one of those older ladies that grew up w/ strict parents and hates younger women for doing things she wanted to do but couldn’t 😂 aka a hating ass lady
Omg I can definitely relate to this ! I’m sorry all that happened 🙄🤦🏽♀️ one time I had a pastor pray over me and tell me that God told him the pain in my chest would leave… I had no pain in my chest 😂
I've heard of pledging ones virginity before although I haven't had an experience that was so formal. There are a lot of strange things in every religion. When I went to my friends Catholic wedding, participants had to get on their knees (male and female) before a priest while he held this moving incensed object around. I was supposed to be a part of the wedding but because religious practices creep me out, I told her I'm a Christian and I don't worship idols so I can't participate in her wedding. She had already paid for my dress. Her family was pissed. I'm a strong believer of Jesus, but I don't like religion. I formally started going to church when I was 17 and there I encountered a lot of judgement and strange practices but I also learned a lot about God, the spiritual realm, the bible, community, and the true value of corporate worship. Alot of church people judge out of fear, and their own miseries, and they don't really know or understand the concept of the love of God. The church is filled with imperfect and broken people, just like our society. I've dealt with hurt from the world and hurt from the church. The only thing consistent is imperfect people.
Oh nah! That’s not okay! 😮😮 Went to many youth events at church on the eastside of Atlanta & very thankful I didn’t have to experience this. Thank you for sharing your story because I have heard way too many stories like this one smh
Mannn them church folks something else! I had to pause the video just to go back and look one more time. You looked so beautiful and classy😍 She was just a bitter old b****
Transparent moment: I was over sexualized a lot as a child/ young adult. I’m now 34 and being alluring/ “sexy” is a part of my personality and style of dress. I ironically receive more push back as an adult woman than I ever did as a child. I was free to wear shorts. Halter tops, skirts etc. and would receive many compliments or sexual advances. I grew up Christian, attended Christian schools and was raised in a suburban neighborhood, nothing about my life has been ghetto but as a black woman I am automatically assumed to be ghetto with a bad attitude who is overly sexy because of my shape.
Thats sad and rude for an adult to talk to youth like that. Ive been told before that I needed to cover up and I had a tank top on 🙄 God help your people 🙏🏾
I'm mad I know this now. 😮💨 I will never reveal this to my daughter because I have a granddaughter and her parents don't need any ideals. Btw you are cool and you dress nice.
Lol when I was young it was similar only they called it an abstinence group and we took an abstinence pledge lmao. It was like some spiritual sex ed type shit.
I wish I had made a virginity pledge of some sort even if I made it at home by myself in my bedroom. Cause at the end of the day, the people I been with are haunting my spirit. I literally get sick through my stomach thinking about my experiences. I wish I knew better
I’m so sorry you had to go through that, and I pray God continues to work through you, God has a mighty calling on your life. Don’t let the hypocrites stop you from getting around some good community, the same people who killed Jesus were the same people who were in the church but never had a true relationship with God. Even through that God forgave them and continued to seek his father. I believe that despite your church hurt, you have the strength to endure.
I'm sorry you had church/"Christianity" traumas. I'm certain Jesus isn't down with that stuff. I recently found a church really close to me that is overtly welcoming of LGBT folk. I don't particularly intend to go regularly, but it's comforting to know they exist. (I'm a queer woman in a long term sapphic relationship, who has been rejected by "Christians" and "churches" in the past for things much more minor, like I didn't take communion once, when I was ten, and knowing that my caregiver was disallowing me to do so, an entire church full of grown adults turned their backs on me. Ridiculous.)
I am a Christian and when I see negativity among Christians I tell myself no religion is perfect, people are not perfect that’s why they are religious so they can be better people.
😱😱😱. Hey Ayana. My wife and I have never heard of virginity camp. Interesting story. You and Amy have a great and safe weekend. Sending love to you both💖💖💖🍸🍸
It wasn’t a camp but I did go to a lil couple week program after school called the “Silver Ring Thing” and I got the ring wit the scripture on it 🤣🤣. We didn’t walk down an aisle though
I have never heard of a virginity camp, sorry for your bad experience. That being said, i am still a virgin and I am 39 years old. I remember pledging myself to stay a virgin until marriage. I was alone in my apartment at 22 years old. It's all about relationship and choices. Because i was 22 and made that decision I understand how a virginity camp would be strange. Prayfully, you can heal from your pain. Not all Christians are bad and not everyone in the church is a Christian. I believe the devil was using those people against you. Be blessed ❤
Hey Girly, wow that's crazy like who says that to a child and you was not inappropriate for the event. Even an adult would have felt offended by that comment and yes i have heard of those types of camps back in the day
I am so sorry that happened to you. You looked beautiful in that dress, and that lady was full of sh!t. I'm really glad your mom stood up for you. I had heard of purity camps before, but lucky for me my parents weren't into that kind of Christianity. You said there were girls as young as 9 at that ceremony. That is totally messed up to do that to a child that young. I'm a few years older than you and white, so I don't have the same experiences, but I grew up in DeKalb County as well, so I know how overbearing the Christians in that area can be. In my public high school, I was constantly calling out the administration for putting Christianity above other religions, or just assuming that all the students were Christian. I never got in trouble for it (maybe because of white privilege), but it never made a difference either.
i had same experience, You have to realize it not the title....... of the people that change a person or make them who their are ....... people will be people Regardless of which titles they have! me now i really do not care who you are and what you think because i know people has other issues with themselves and try to take it out on you....... I do whatever makes me happy and i was always that way. now i stay away from people especially if you has toooo much issues!!
ok look i’m an abstinent virgin but i decided that on my own. my mom always told me that it’s okay if i did end up having sex before marriage but this was just a personal decision i made on my own. that being said i think the concept of a purity camp is very... interesting. maybe it has its benefits for some people like for my situation i’d love to meet other girls who are on that same journey as me. but i didn’t even know this kind of thing existed until i saw this video. i’m not ashamed to say that i’m waiting for marriage if it comes up in convo but to announce to everyone especially at a young age would be so uncomfortable. and i was shy when i was little too so i would have been awkward. i’ve definitely had people tell me i don’t dress or look like a virgin - whatever that means. and i have plenty of church trauma to go around but i do still believe in God. i’m sorry you went through this. God loves you ❤
I'm a believer and follower of Jesus Christ, Christian and never heard of virginity camp. I understand the concept. Churches have somewhat of a responsibility to inform its congregation about this topic. With so many teenage pregnancies and what not, that camp's purpose was to teach young girls to save themselves for marriage. The topic of sex should be taught at an age to be understood.I was sexually abused at a very young age. Not knowing and too young to know what sex was/is. Even so, we perish from lack of knowledge. Everyone doesn't grow up in the same upbringing. Some of us was in foster care or in the children's home. Sorry you went through that. I hope you forgive the lady for that comment. Have a blessed day🥰❤️🥰
Organized religion is a terrifying experience. I think a lot of people have been traumatized by Christians in actuality. There's nobody that can damn or save your soul. It's up to you. Who are they? Most of these fools get out of church on Sunday doin straight devilment. That book has many Religion was made to control and manipulate our people. A lot of our people are in a choke hold over religion. Anybody stepping between your relationship with your spirituality is setting you up for a fall. Because it's their interpretation of the scriptures and who are they?? I hate that for you!!! Your sexuality is never going to stop you from the metaphoric heaven. It's people's actions and low vibrational behavior. That keeps them from obtaining the love and light.
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Wow I’ve always thought that was weird just watching it on tv and in movies. But to know it’s actually happening frfr! Wow! Just weird…and they had merch😮 wow!!!😧 Sorry you had to deal with all of that!
No matter what title people have they will be humans.... they want to be that's it. the title doesn't change people! you have to look at people all the same.... because at the end of the day the title they have will not change them..... when you come to that realization....... you will see what i am talking about.....
I'm so sorry you had to go through such awful things, Ayana. It's perfectly okay to love Jesus in the comfort of your own home. If you want, though, there might be some gay-friendly churches where you live. I'm from Cleveland, and we have at least one here in the city. It might be worth trying out if you ever feel yourself missing church.
As for lesbianism... anyone who tries to condemn you for it is saying that God condemns you for a thing he created in you (the feelings for women), but somehow doesn't condemn them for trying to judge you, when the bible stipulates only God is in a position to do that? Can they spell double standards?
No, THATS NOT NORMAL... I have never heard of that. I was raised Catholic and we have to make a confirmation saying we would be a virgin til we were married and that is actually weird AF! CAMP, NO..
I am glad she was fired. I am so sorry you experienced that. Nothing was wrong with that dress. Plus you had your hair covering your back. That woman had an evil spirit. Those be the ones. Trying to represent something spiritual while being the most evil, mean spirited person. You don't talk to kids and definitely someone else's child like that. Behavior like that will discourage young girls from wanting to participate in those type of camps/events. I would prefer for kids not to be put on the spot like that about sexuality. I agree let kids be kids as long as they can be. Especially while they don't have that type of stuff on their mind.
I don’t know if any Muslim virginity camps (I’m sure we have something similar) but our clothes were always commented on. Even heels. We could be dressed head to toe covered up but if we wore heels it was commented on in the mosque. Girls were always policed and judged. Men and boys not as much. This kind of stuff and us going to hell for every reason is why I don’t really go to the mosque either. Like does God have nothing better to do then to police our bodies. Kids are literally dying out there and no one questions that but my wrists showing during prayer is gone send me to hell.
I remember i was like 8 or 9 going to church with my grandma and a jw pulled me to the side and told me i needed to start wearing training bras . I literally have no boobs and i thought that was weird cause i wasn’t wearing anything inappropriate and i had no cleavage . And isn’t that something you speak to an adult about ?
That JW was wayyyyyyy out of line for telling you that. No possible way she thought her intentions were good 🤨 did you ever tell your grandma (or even mom to tell your grandma that) or were you too uncomfortable? i hope you’re healing
This was really a great video it pissed me off that you we're treated like that only God can judge you and you know the biggest liars and hypocrites or in the church and you know when God come back he's going to the church God bless you and keep your head up
WTF? I have never ever heard in my life of a virginity camp. Is that a southern thing? I'm from the west coast and I don't think that was even a thing there. Marrying Jesus and walking down the aisle is ick!
Yeah, pretty sure the God of the bible cares far more about your heart than your hair or earrings. When Jesus said "let the little children come to me", those little children were not concerned with how their hair looked, or even if their clothes were clean. And nor was Jesus.
It is not the role of anyone other than a parent to parent someone else's child. If a child is following the rules, what right has a stranger to speak on said child? Because you are Christian? That is so wild. Parents need to be careful in what environments they place their children in. The intentions are well but even the Bible says you shall know a person by their fruits. Look at how someone speaks to a child. Are they kind, are they respectful, are they patient? If the answer is no, your child should not be taught by this person no matter what faith they are! People think they can speak to children anyhow but it is actually a child that we must be the most respectful to because they may even try to replicate you. In everything you do, do good!
1. I had a virginity camp and ceremony at 14. Very weird.. the girls had to actually place the rings on each other. The girl I ringed had a baby the next year. So there’s that. 2. A true Christian knows there is only one way to Heaven and that is believing in your heart and confessing with your mouth that Christ is Lord. You will be saved..Periodt. There’s no award system, there’s no gold star club. Christians do too much with that, and it honestly confuses people who can be saved. We will never have enough righteousness to earn a thing from God, especially a place in Heaven. Ignore the comments, and keep your relationship with Christ, YOURS.
You looked great 😊 religious people can get waaay to intense and dumb I had to go to church growing up with my dad cousins and uncle and his wife and they were too intense...like they would say things to their daughter that were ridiculous
I went to a catholic school and catholic church that did a similar thing but we were 14......and then on top of it, my husband and I before getting married by his pastor who was his awful abusive mother's friend made us abstain to repent from our sexual sins even though we've only been with each other for over 7 years at that point and he took it to the extreme at the premarital counseling aka church 2.0 but we more pervy and against gays and here I am may Bi/Pan ass trying not to panic all over again........good news is my husband accepts me and we're good together but he doesn't understand why I am scared about religion in general.......
Let me tell you. I dont know if you will even see this comment but as a Christian I know that we can be very judgmental. But I also know that God loves you and that He is judge and jury. Also that last time I checked He was not hiring. We all are sinners know matter what we do. God hates the sin but he loves us. I say all this to say if you should decide to go back to church go with your head held high to worship God and not the people. Ignore them .
I haven’t. I feel like it’ll trigger me. I went to another Christian camp when I was younger and purposely didn’t tell that story because it traumatized tf outta me
This is so upsetting to hear. I am Christian and I see a lot of other Christians and former Christians online talk about how the church scarred them with purity culture. I don't think I fully understood until you explained this I am hurt for you. (Perhaps it's a cultral thing? I am British and I see a lot of Americans talk on purity culture but not heard a lot of it here even though I have a kinda strict African upbringing.) Why are elders traumatising literal children? The Bible says there is power in the tongue. What business does an adult have telling a child you like a hoe? That is not on! The Bible also says parents bring up your children in the ways of the Lord. Your mum stood up for you out of her maternal love for you. But I bring up this verse because I do feel like in the black community, elders love to play the role of other children's parents. Your mum brought this dress from home. Children do not buy their own clothes. You and your mum were fine with this decision over the dress so the woman does not have authority to speak to you like that especially as she didn't even try to attempt to come from a place of love. Elders in the church need to realise the effect their words can have on people. She tried to shame you and I'm really sad that happened. God bless you and your mum. That was a nice dress and a good church would welcome you arms wide. Thank you for this video.
@@umm3766 I believe in one God. I believe in His only begotten Son, Jesus Christ of Nazareth. I believe He died for the sins of mankind and rose again on the third day. I believe He ascended to the father and will come again a time where no man knows. I believe whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have life eternal. I praise God that He is graceful. You do not even know anything about me and you say I am not Christian because of what I say and how I dress. Thank God Christ does not condemn me the way you do. Stay blessed ✌🏾
@@Ivanabelle yes it being a christian comes with a physical part but I guess what i've seen being a christian can also dress revealing, sleep around, act awful and more
@@umm3766 I do not dispute that. But I do not understand what that has to do with me being a Christian. You are projecting what you see on me, a stranger. I do not care for that. There is nothing righteous in your judgement. The Bible clearly tells us not to be like the Pharisees who act holier than thou but forget pride is a sin as well. You have nothing positive to say to me. That is your right, you are entitled to speak how you please but I don't have to take it. I kindly ask you leave me alone.
Lmao holy shit I knew about these ceremonies but there's even virginity merch?? Amazing. I need some of this exists-but-shouldnt merch the south has absolutely lost its mind
them people was not of GOD , you not supposed to judge anybody only god can do that! she was jealous of you & they need to work in they self first. Don’t let nobody change your ways about GOD cause they aren’t real christians! it’s only one religion & that’s christianity… stop making excuses not to be closer to GOD,
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I grew up in a Pentecostal church and had a prophet prophesy to me at the age of 9 years old that I had a lesbian spirit in me. I remember asking my grandma what is a “lesbian” after that church service. And the funny part is, this man was extremely feminine. He played the tambourine and all! I’ve been trying to reach out to him via Facebook to let him know he indeed could see the future bc I’ve been with my wife now for 13 years 🤷🏾♀️
Lmao wow! 😭🤣
His gaydar 👌
Congratulations to you and your beautiful wife
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Congratulations 🎉 😂
Purity culture is so damaging. It has hurt so many women. Women that are still dealing with that trauma to this day.
I’m definitely dealing with it 😢
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Girl thank you for calling out the sexualization of young girls in Christian purity culture that none of the people calling lgbt "groomers" ever talks or thinks about. It's not that they're against "indoctrination" as a concept, they just want the "programming" to be THEIR responsibility alone.
Also love your mom's reaction, my mom would lose her shit lmao
I'm actually shocked by how many people are saying they never heard of virginity camp. I think back then it was actually called "purity camp" but still....... I thought this was normal.
They probably still do have it,but change the name because back then and now is to different time.
You're a victim and are entitled to financial compensation. As you said, having kids talk about their sex lives to a bunch of adults? 0/10
Not normal.
I never went i almost did. But i never grew up in church either at first. My mom pretty much bred it into me at home. I guess purity school was taught to me, also with fast tail girl remarks. Dating is bad you have to date to marry, no sx till marrige yada yada
I hate how virginity is linked to purity in Christianity. Having sex shouldn’t make me any less worthy or pure.
it depends if you sleep around and become some next p star
I think it’s more like a soul exchange… just think about it, it’s probably best to stay as pure as you can
Once a ping ping has entered your temple you're not the same. Whether or not you were aware of the ping ping entering you or if you were a willing participant. Purity is a fitting term.
@@brittneydavis7846funny how none of these standards are applied to men. Smh. It’s just about controlling women’s bodies. It has nothing to do with “purity.” I’ve never heard anyone refer to a guy as being “un-pure” after losing their virginity.
@@brittneydavis7846so a person who was r8ped is less pure? Purity culture is also never really targeted at guys
I’ve had a ton of negative experiences with “Christian’s” and whew the stories I could tell. I’m sorry that you had to go through that. You looked so cute
Tell us one! lol
@@ayanafite GIRLLLLL it’s too long to text 🙄🤣❤️
the fact that virginity camp is brought onto adolescents and young teenagers is concerning... as hell. im so sorry you had to go through this!!! so glad that woman got fired and you had support. and the fact that you're tearing up years later discussing this is so sad :(
WOW 😮, the nerve of that lady!!!! Shame on her. You looked really pretty in your dress. And people need to stop with the judging, they get on my nerves 🙄
They obviously don't know Mary Magdalenes story. A former prostitute who became a disciple of Christ and was the first to witness christ resurrection.
This weird fascination with virginity is so weird to me. I am German and grew up here (though in the North) and my parents were open with me as I am with my kids. Who cares if they had sex or not? It doesn't change anything about someone's value.
If they want to have sex, they will. And I want them to be prepared with knowledge and contraception. We have a drawer in the bathroom filled with condoms, lube, etc. Everyone is free to take what they need no shame.
If they want to have sex I'd rather they do it in my house where they can get help if it doesn't work out how they want it (or, worst case, their partner doesn't stop).
I want my kids to be and feel safe and secure. That's my job as parent.
Wow
Good job!
now that's sad
@@TheCarnivoreSoprano raising their to be a overused means a good job?
Same mindset as me as i want to have for if i decided to have any kids. I didnt get tht growin up
I remember I was once on a mission in my local city where we would evangelize to strangers and I was a teen (maybe 14 yo). I was told by the older woman in charge that I could not go out with them that day bc I had holes in my pants near my thighs. These were very small holes in my jeans and were from regular wear and tear. My family was super poor at the time and they were literally the only jeans I owned. This lady called me out in front of everyone there and publicly shamed me for something that was not my fault at all. She said they were inappropriate and would send the wrong message to people and I wasn't allowed to go with them. I just remember how terrible I felt and the shame from that day. I just cried in the bathroom after everyone left.
The explicit misogyny and sexualization of girls is insane and I'm so glad I removed myself from that as an adult woman
Bizarre that I had almost the exact same experience! In my case it was school picture day at my baptist school. My mom and I had picked out the dress together and I was told by my teacher that my neckline was inappropriately low. They called my mom to bring me new clothes but she was not having it. The school refuses to take my picture in that dress so she took me home and we did a photo shoot together. I love my mom for that. Unfortunately, that experience and others at this school did leave scars that I am still working to overcome. I only started wearing crop tops and showing more skin in the last few years and honestly it is so freeing. I have dignity regardless of what I choose to wear and what I wear is my decision.
Even though I’m a Christian that’s always been my problem with church people. Regardless of the Bible it is not your place to tell people how to live or if they’re going to hell. And even if you do make suggestions, be kind. Most of the time they don’t make comments out of love, it comes from hate and judgement.
Chile I was at a Christian high school and I was in volleyball practice wearing Nike shorts and a tank top and the damn nurse had a nerve to say I was dressed “too revealing” because my shoulders were out. Meanwhile the basketball players were able to practice shirtless😑
They also tried to send me home from homecoming for wearing a long sleeve bodycon midi dress that was loosely fitting😒
And then they tried to hold my diploma because although my graduation dress reached my fingertips, the last inch of it was sheer🤦🏽♀️
Tbh I was much like you.. I wore braid + twist extensions, accessorized with jewelry and purses, and wore eyeliner and mascara when my mom finally let me at 16 lol
I just think half of them were lowkey hating and using the fact that it was a Christian school to harass me for looking good.
🙄It will forever boggle my mind how there is such a reaction to girls SHOULDERS being out!! I will never understand it
@@lemondropzs Factss caus I swear I’ve never had a guy comment on my shoulders🤨
NEVERRRRR heard someone say "damn them shoulders sexy af"
Do not enter ⛔️ virgin - that’s terrifying Lmfao
RIGHT! OMG.... it's so disturbing now that I think about it
Hey Ayana!!! I’m so glad that your mom handled that and didn’t let it ride!!! And people wonder what’s wrong with “SOME”of the youth today. Love this story time🙏🏽🥰
Thank you so much!!
I’m so sorry you went through this. I’m happy your mom was on your side about the dress but to even send you to a camp like that in general is kind of insane, because yeah at that age, sex isn’t even something on the mind fr. I get why your trauma response would be to block this time out of your mind.
As a Christian myself I am so sorry you experienced this. 😢I have never heard of virginity camp.
I honestly thought this was normal, I can't believe that so many people are saying they've never heard of this
@@ayanafite I have never heard of virginity camp in my life. I went to Christian camp and loved it, but they didn’t even talk about sex. Camp was like regular sleep-away camp with a bit of VBS mixed in.
Wow! What a story. I’m sorry you went through that. I can tell you were indeed traumatized. You had a visceral reaction just talking about it. God bless the woman who fired her and supported you in the moment. I’m so grateful to have had a wonderful experience with my childhood church, it’s been quite the opposite assn adult looking for a home church, so I study and worship at home too. I miss the fellowship, but I can’t deal with the hypocrisy and foolishness going on in modern churches. So, I completely understand.
I grew up super Christian also and ended up a lesbian so hilarious!
My girl you are not going to hell. I'm 99.999% sure God didn't come down and have a secret meeting with these people like "deliver this message to Ayana for me, I can't reach her" 😒 I love being a Christian, some of these Christian-Christians (yall know what I mean) judge you when you do go...and then judge you for not going😑
It be your own people trying to tear you down. I’m so sorry you experienced that. God loves us all.😢
Ugh this reminds me so much of something I experienced just earlier this year at age 23. I’m in law school and I managed to make it all the way to the finals of this big moot court competition that’s a huge deal at my law school. I went to the reception for the judges in the afternoon before the competition and we were all just in our everyday clothes, so I had on a skater skirt and a crop top. My friend introduced me to the judge (an actual Virginia Supreme Court judge!) with “hi Judge, this is Sydney, she’s one of the competitors tonight!” And a professor of mine who was standing there POINTED ME UP AND DOWN in front of the judge and said “and she will not be wearing that tonight.” I was absolutely mortified. The judge didn’t say anything. No one said anything. We all just stood there in silence because it was so awkward. And it made it so much worse that the prof who said it was a woman too. I was so proud of myself for making it to the finals, and that one moment sticks in my head about that whole experience.
Bruh😳 as a devoted Christian myself (and have been one for a while) I cannot believe you went through this (well I can bc I know what said "Christians" are capable of but it's just ridiculous). I have never in my life heard of virginity camp wow, I hope you eventually heal from everything. I'm glad to hear you still have a connection with God and Jesus and I wish you a blessed and fruitful 2023 🥂💕
I did not know that virginity camp was a thing
YES! It still is to this day
Omg … ! I remember Ms. Turner…. 😢 she definitely harassed tf out of us!!! I was in her office EVERY DAY for no reason at all. She told me I thought I was all that and a bag of chips but I’m not…….like who says that to a child??? She actually caused me so much trauma and I didn’t realize it until I was adult. SMH !
Ms.Turner sounds like one of those older ladies that grew up w/ strict parents and hates younger women for doing things she wanted to do but couldn’t 😂 aka a hating ass lady
Omg I can definitely relate to this ! I’m sorry all that happened 🙄🤦🏽♀️ one time I had a pastor pray over me and tell me that God told him the pain in my chest would leave… I had no pain in my chest 😂
😂😂
That Mrs Turner thought she was gonna keep that jewelry she took until I told her she was not 😅! That probably how she got her jewelry back in the day
They sold virgin MERCH?! “DO NOT ENTER?!” Jesus Christ lol that’s a bit much. 😅
Omg I didn’t even get the “do not enter reference until JUST NOW” 🤯
I've heard of pledging ones virginity before although I haven't had an experience that was so formal. There are a lot of strange things in every religion. When I went to my friends Catholic wedding, participants had to get on their knees (male and female) before a priest while he held this moving incensed object around. I was supposed to be a part of the wedding but because religious practices creep me out, I told her I'm a Christian and I don't worship idols so I can't participate in her wedding. She had already paid for my dress. Her family was pissed. I'm a strong believer of Jesus, but I don't like religion. I formally started going to church when I was 17 and there I encountered a lot of judgement and strange practices but I also learned a lot about God, the spiritual realm, the bible, community, and the true value of corporate worship. Alot of church people judge out of fear, and their own miseries, and they don't really know or understand the concept of the love of God. The church is filled with imperfect and broken people, just like our society. I've dealt with hurt from the world and hurt from the church. The only thing consistent is imperfect people.
This video title is CHAOTIC, but I'm here for it 😭
WOW. 👀
Im 31 too and I still have so much trauma from my teen years for my sexuality in the church. Thank you for sharing your experiences.
Missy
This is beyond sad I hate that this happened to you I pray that God send you believers who are truly loving around you ❤️❤️!!
I’m sorry you had to experience that. I agree that the Christian community sexualizes adolescents at the highest rate I’ve experienced in my lifetime.
Girl I started a new job and I’m so behind so I will be catching up today.
“Virginity camp” that doesn’t sound WILD to y’all? 😂😂😂
Oh nah! That’s not okay! 😮😮 Went to many youth events at church on the eastside of Atlanta & very thankful I didn’t have to experience this. Thank you for sharing your story because I have heard way too many stories like this one smh
I never heard or went to virginity/ purity camp. I think the whole idea is weird af.
Mannn them church folks something else! I had to pause the video just to go back and look one more time. You looked so beautiful and classy😍 She was just a bitter old b****
Transparent moment: I was over sexualized a lot as a child/ young adult. I’m now 34 and being alluring/ “sexy” is a part of my personality and style of dress. I ironically receive more push back as an adult woman than I ever did as a child. I was free to wear shorts. Halter tops, skirts etc. and would receive many compliments or sexual advances. I grew up Christian, attended Christian schools and was raised in a suburban neighborhood, nothing about my life has been ghetto but as a black woman I am automatically assumed to be ghetto with a bad attitude who is overly sexy because of my shape.
Thats sad and rude for an adult to talk to youth like that. Ive been told before that I needed to cover up and I had a tank top on 🙄
God help your people 🙏🏾
Chillee I stay out the church too. I appreciate the universe and nature for creating me
I'm mad I know this now. 😮💨 I will never reveal this to my daughter because I have a granddaughter and her parents don't need any ideals. Btw you are cool and you dress nice.
Thank youuuuu
Lol when I was young it was similar only they called it an abstinence group and we took an abstinence pledge lmao. It was like some spiritual sex ed type shit.
I wish I had made a virginity pledge of some sort even if I made it at home by myself in my bedroom. Cause at the end of the day, the people I been with are haunting my spirit. I literally get sick through my stomach thinking about my experiences. I wish I knew better
More videos with you and Amy please we love to see you both guys
I’m so sorry you had to go through that, and I pray God continues to work through you, God has a mighty calling on your life. Don’t let the hypocrites stop you from getting around some good community, the same people who killed Jesus were the same people who were in the church but never had a true relationship with God. Even through that God forgave them and continued to seek his father. I believe that despite your church hurt, you have the strength to endure.
I'm sorry you had church/"Christianity" traumas. I'm certain Jesus isn't down with that stuff. I recently found a church really close to me that is overtly welcoming of LGBT folk. I don't particularly intend to go regularly, but it's comforting to know they exist. (I'm a queer woman in a long term sapphic relationship, who has been rejected by "Christians" and "churches" in the past for things much more minor, like I didn't take communion once, when I was ten, and knowing that my caregiver was disallowing me to do so, an entire church full of grown adults turned their backs on me. Ridiculous.)
I am a Christian and when I see negativity among Christians I tell myself no religion is perfect, people are not perfect that’s why they are religious so they can be better people.
Children will only feel that way once an adult put the idea in their heads.
😱😱😱. Hey Ayana. My wife and I have never heard of virginity camp. Interesting story. You and Amy have a great and safe weekend. Sending love to you both💖💖💖🍸🍸
It wasn’t a camp but I did go to a lil couple week program after school called the “Silver Ring Thing” and I got the ring wit the scripture on it 🤣🤣. We didn’t walk down an aisle though
It’s weird af tbh
I have never heard of a virginity camp, sorry for your bad experience. That being said, i am still a virgin and I am 39 years old. I remember pledging myself to stay a virgin until marriage. I was alone in my apartment at 22 years old. It's all about relationship and choices. Because i was 22 and made that decision I understand how a virginity camp would be strange. Prayfully, you can heal from your pain. Not all Christians are bad and not everyone in the church is a Christian. I believe the devil was using those people against you. Be blessed ❤
That lady was totally out of line.
Hey Girly, wow that's crazy like who says that to a child and you was not inappropriate for the event. Even an adult would have felt offended by that comment and yes i have heard of those types of camps back in the day
I love when i find people with the same name as me ( or around the same ) hey pretty girl 😍
As a Christian this is weird ah
I think so now, I didn't back then
I am so sorry that happened to you. You looked beautiful in that dress, and that lady was full of sh!t. I'm really glad your mom stood up for you.
I had heard of purity camps before, but lucky for me my parents weren't into that kind of Christianity. You said there were girls as young as 9 at that ceremony. That is totally messed up to do that to a child that young.
I'm a few years older than you and white, so I don't have the same experiences, but I grew up in DeKalb County as well, so I know how overbearing the Christians in that area can be. In my public high school, I was constantly calling out the administration for putting Christianity above other religions, or just assuming that all the students were Christian. I never got in trouble for it (maybe because of white privilege), but it never made a difference either.
i had same experience, You have to realize it not the title....... of the people that change a person or make them who their are ....... people will be people Regardless of which titles they have! me now i really do not care who you are and what you think because i know people has other issues with themselves and try to take it out on you....... I do whatever makes me happy and i was always that way. now i stay away from people especially if you has toooo much issues!!
ok look i’m an abstinent virgin but i decided that on my own. my mom always told me that it’s okay if i did end up having sex before marriage but this was just a personal decision i made on my own. that being said i think the concept of a purity camp is very... interesting. maybe it has its benefits for some people like for my situation i’d love to meet other girls who are on that same journey as me. but i didn’t even know this kind of thing existed until i saw this video. i’m not ashamed to say that i’m waiting for marriage if it comes up in convo but to announce to everyone especially at a young age would be so uncomfortable. and i was shy when i was little too so i would have been awkward. i’ve definitely had people tell me i don’t dress or look like a virgin - whatever that means. and i have plenty of church trauma to go around but i do still believe in God. i’m sorry you went through this. God loves you ❤
🫂 I'm sorry you encountered such misguided, classless black women during such a tender time. ❤️
I'm a believer and follower of Jesus Christ, Christian and never heard of virginity camp. I understand the concept. Churches have somewhat of a responsibility to inform its congregation about this topic. With so many teenage pregnancies and what not, that camp's purpose was to teach young girls to save themselves for marriage. The topic of sex should be taught at an age to be understood.I was sexually abused at a very young age. Not knowing and too young to know what sex was/is. Even so, we perish from lack of knowledge. Everyone doesn't grow up in the same upbringing. Some of us was in foster care or in the children's home. Sorry you went through that. I hope you forgive the lady for that comment. Have a blessed day🥰❤️🥰
she’s not obligated to forgive that lady
Organized religion is a terrifying experience. I think a lot of people have been traumatized by Christians in actuality. There's nobody that can damn or save your soul. It's up to you. Who are they? Most of these fools get out of church on Sunday doin straight devilment. That book has many Religion was made to control and manipulate our people. A lot of our people are in a choke hold over religion. Anybody stepping between your relationship with your spirituality is setting you up for a fall. Because it's their interpretation of the scriptures and who are they?? I hate that for you!!! Your sexuality is never going to stop you from the metaphoric heaven. It's people's actions and low vibrational behavior. That keeps them from obtaining the love and light.
I am a Christian. I am so so sorry that you were made to feel rejected or not good enough.
Purchase the same product on last year for my hair....definitely a good product thus far. I've had the same bottle since last year, lol...I use it sparingly since it was almost $13, lol
Wow I’ve always thought that was weird just watching it on tv and in movies. But to know it’s actually happening frfr! Wow!
Just weird…and they had merch😮 wow!!!😧
Sorry you had to deal with all of that!
I’m not gone lie.. I’ve heard of this but I thought only YT people did this kind of stuff
No matter what title people have they will be humans.... they want to be that's it. the title doesn't change people! you have to look at people all the same.... because at the end of the day the title they have will not change them..... when you come to that realization....... you will see what i am talking about.....
I'm so sorry you had to go through such awful things, Ayana. It's perfectly okay to love Jesus in the comfort of your own home. If you want, though, there might be some gay-friendly churches where you live. I'm from Cleveland, and we have at least one here in the city. It might be worth trying out if you ever feel yourself missing church.
There are a few in Atlanta that I can definitely try! I just have to work up the nerve
@@ayanafite best of luck!! 💜
As for lesbianism... anyone who tries to condemn you for it is saying that God condemns you for a thing he created in you (the feelings for women), but somehow doesn't condemn them for trying to judge you, when the bible stipulates only God is in a position to do that? Can they spell double standards?
It's actually love to tell people about what the Bible says
Are you going to feel loved if I tell you god's going to condemn you for trying to condemn other people?
Wait. The do not enter sign was wild 😂
No, THATS NOT NORMAL... I have never heard of that. I was raised Catholic and we have to make a confirmation saying we would be a virgin til we were married and that is actually weird AF! CAMP, NO..
I am glad she was fired. I am so sorry you experienced that. Nothing was wrong with that dress. Plus you had your hair covering your back. That woman had an evil spirit. Those be the ones. Trying to represent something spiritual while being the most evil, mean spirited person. You don't talk to kids and definitely someone else's child like that. Behavior like that will discourage young girls from wanting to participate in those type of camps/events. I would prefer for kids not to be put on the spot like that about sexuality. I agree let kids be kids as long as they can be. Especially while they don't have that type of stuff on their mind.
I don’t know if any Muslim virginity camps (I’m sure we have something similar) but our clothes were always commented on. Even heels. We could be dressed head to toe covered up but if we wore heels it was commented on in the mosque. Girls were always policed and judged. Men and boys not as much. This kind of stuff and us going to hell for every reason is why I don’t really go to the mosque either. Like does God have nothing better to do then to police our bodies. Kids are literally dying out there and no one questions that but my wrists showing during prayer is gone send me to hell.
Turned all the way off right! Smh....if I dare walk back into a church its because I'm going for my mom...
First !!’ Love you from 🇬🇭❤
I remember i was like 8 or 9 going to church with my grandma and a jw pulled me to the side and told me i needed to start wearing training bras . I literally have no boobs and i thought that was weird cause i wasn’t wearing anything inappropriate and i had no cleavage . And isn’t that something you speak to an adult about ?
That JW was wayyyyyyy out of line for telling you that. No possible way she thought her intentions were good 🤨 did you ever tell your grandma (or even mom to tell your grandma that) or were you too uncomfortable? i hope you’re healing
This was really a great video it pissed me off that you we're treated like that only God can judge you and you know the biggest liars and hypocrites or in the church and you know when God come back he's going to the church God bless you and keep your head up
Ur dress was very pretty & appreciate ❤️, that lady was WRONG ‼️
WTF? I have never ever heard in my life of a virginity camp. Is that a southern thing? I'm from the west coast and I don't think that was even a thing there. Marrying Jesus and walking down the aisle is ick!
I honestly thought this was normal, I can't believe that so many people are saying they've never heard of this
I remember I was jealous of my friends purity ring bc I wasn't around when the ceremony happened
You dodged a bullet sis
Yeah, pretty sure the God of the bible cares far more about your heart than your hair or earrings. When Jesus said "let the little children come to me", those little children were not concerned with how their hair looked, or even if their clothes were clean. And nor was Jesus.
sorry ab people making fun of your sexuality. Love Wins.🏳️🌈
It is not the role of anyone other than a parent to parent someone else's child. If a child is following the rules, what right has a stranger to speak on said child? Because you are Christian? That is so wild. Parents need to be careful in what environments they place their children in. The intentions are well but even the Bible says you shall know a person by their fruits. Look at how someone speaks to a child. Are they kind, are they respectful, are they patient? If the answer is no, your child should not be taught by this person no matter what faith they are! People think they can speak to children anyhow but it is actually a child that we must be the most respectful to because they may even try to replicate you. In everything you do, do good!
1. I had a virginity camp and ceremony at 14. Very weird.. the girls had to actually place the rings on each other. The girl I ringed had a baby the next year. So there’s that.
2. A true Christian knows there is only one way to Heaven and that is believing in your heart and confessing with your mouth that Christ is Lord. You will be saved..Periodt. There’s no award system, there’s no gold star club. Christians do too much with that, and it honestly confuses people who can be saved. We will never have enough righteousness to earn a thing from God, especially a place in Heaven. Ignore the comments, and keep your relationship with Christ, YOURS.
You looked great 😊 religious people can get waaay to intense and dumb I had to go to church growing up with my dad cousins and uncle and his wife and they were too intense...like they would say things to their daughter that were ridiculous
I went to a catholic school and catholic church that did a similar thing but we were 14......and then on top of it, my husband and I before getting married by his pastor who was his awful abusive mother's friend made us abstain to repent from our sexual sins even though we've only been with each other for over 7 years at that point and he took it to the extreme at the premarital counseling aka church 2.0 but we more pervy and against gays and here I am may Bi/Pan ass trying not to panic all over again........good news is my husband accepts me and we're good together but he doesn't understand why I am scared about religion in general.......
Let me tell you. I dont know if you will even see this comment but as a Christian I know that we can be very judgmental. But I also know that God loves you and that He is judge and jury. Also that last time I checked He was not hiring. We all are sinners know matter what we do. God hates the sin but he loves us. I say all this to say if you should decide to go back to church go with your head held high to worship God and not the people. Ignore them .
Have you ever seen the documentary Jesus Camp? It’s wild.
I haven’t. I feel like it’ll trigger me. I went to another Christian camp when I was younger and purposely didn’t tell that story because it traumatized tf outta me
This is so upsetting to hear. I am Christian and I see a lot of other Christians and former Christians online talk about how the church scarred them with purity culture. I don't think I fully understood until you explained this I am hurt for you. (Perhaps it's a cultral thing? I am British and I see a lot of Americans talk on purity culture but not heard a lot of it here even though I have a kinda strict African upbringing.) Why are elders traumatising literal children? The Bible says there is power in the tongue. What business does an adult have telling a child you like a hoe? That is not on! The Bible also says parents bring up your children in the ways of the Lord. Your mum stood up for you out of her maternal love for you. But I bring up this verse because I do feel like in the black community, elders love to play the role of other children's parents. Your mum brought this dress from home. Children do not buy their own clothes. You and your mum were fine with this decision over the dress so the woman does not have authority to speak to you like that especially as she didn't even try to attempt to come from a place of love. Elders in the church need to realise the effect their words can have on people. She tried to shame you and I'm really sad that happened. God bless you and your mum. That was a nice dress and a good church would welcome you arms wide. Thank you for this video.
there's "hoes" claiming themselves are as christian and judging from you're pfp and the way you typed this paragraph you are not christian
@@umm3766 I believe in one God. I believe in His only begotten Son, Jesus Christ of Nazareth. I believe He died for the sins of mankind and rose again on the third day. I believe He ascended to the father and will come again a time where no man knows. I believe whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have life eternal.
I praise God that He is graceful. You do not even know anything about me and you say I am not Christian because of what I say and how I dress. Thank God Christ does not condemn me the way you do. Stay blessed ✌🏾
@@Ivanabelle yes it being a christian comes with a physical part but I guess what i've seen being a christian can also dress revealing, sleep around, act awful and more
@@umm3766 I do not dispute that. But I do not understand what that has to do with me being a Christian. You are projecting what you see on me, a stranger. I do not care for that. There is nothing righteous in your judgement. The Bible clearly tells us not to be like the Pharisees who act holier than thou but forget pride is a sin as well. You have nothing positive to say to me. That is your right, you are entitled to speak how you please but I don't have to take it. I kindly ask you leave me alone.
Omggg I went to that camp too!!
wow great video
Girl they was messing with you, they just didn’t like you
Your mom bought the dress so it was appropriate
Lmao holy shit I knew about these ceremonies but there's even virginity merch?? Amazing. I need some of this exists-but-shouldnt merch the south has absolutely lost its mind
THIRTY??????????????BDC!
Hold up. Nine year olds???
Jesus love you and died for our sins amen 🙏
them people was not of GOD , you not supposed to judge anybody only god can do that! she was jealous of you & they need to work in they self first. Don’t let nobody change your ways about GOD cause they aren’t real christians! it’s only one religion & that’s christianity… stop making excuses not to be closer to GOD,
People hurt people BUT NOT JESUS. Jesus is THEE ONLY way to God. No matter what happened.
I'm Sooo Sorry for what happened to you though