Yeah but why? The only reason to ride a HT on a downhill course is to make a RUclips video, outside of that you could be trying to escape from a wildfire. There is no point really.
Well, he would send the first half until the forks snap, then substitute with a downhill fork and send again until the frame snaps... I reckon _Blake_ would also send it, perhaps without destroying the bike.
This video just gave me so much confidence! I thought I was just whimping out when I roll the big jumps at my bike park on my XC. Seeing Rich say "nope" makes me think I might know more about my bike than I think!
Living in a third world country the only thing that stop us from sending too hard is the expense of breaking any bike parts, too damn expensive even the mid range parts lol Safety comes second
I race my specialized Epic full squish in DH Races because I can't buy a DH bike where I live, and I used to race XC for a while. It's a whole hell of a lot of fun!
@@yengsabio5315 I have pretty much converted my XC bike into a trail bike, Short 50mm stem, 750mm bars, dropper post and trail tyres, you name it! with that being said my times aren't all that bad. At the national level open DH competition I was mid pack in my time, to be fair, the course was a steep flow trail with big drops yeah, mid pack is usually how i place.
@@yengsabio5315 I do plan to upgrade to a big Enduro rig as i've maxed my XC/DH bike's capabilty with regards to speed and use range. It's fun! worth a try! however it's not the path to becoming a faster rider in the long run.
Jesse Wigman raced the endurance dh on a specialized rigid jump bike, he did 13 runs in 6 hours and was 40th overall, absolutely insane. I was on my Last Herb and beat him by one place :)
I don't have an enduro bike, so I have to ride with an XC bike, but less good than that. So that's what I have to put up with every day that I go up when riding.
What do you mean by XC bike? Do you mean a touring bike with MTB looks? I got myself a full-sus XC bike and so far the only thing limiting me down the descents is my low reaction time and lack of confidence.
@@diviscadilek1764 I ride a full-sus XC bike that can handle most descents, but compared to when riding an enduro/downhill bike I feel like I could go over the bars at any point.
@@bender6942 I hired a downhill bike for Fort William, I'm not stupid lol. Smooth tracks are fine at speed on my XC, but anything that can grab the front wheel is buttock clenching as you can only lean back so much before you go cartwheeling down the track.
@@stuarts4673 Nah, that bed bike scared the crap out of him. It's literally the only time in a video I've seen Sam scared and actually not try something.
we should suggest this to him! get a budget halfords bike under £200 and send it. they're actually not bad! for £200 you can get a phaze, and its sick! i used it at the local pump track and its well fun
I went from this video straight to watch Danny harts full run as never watched full runs ever before . Man that is amazing, my eyes could hardly keep up . Nice one for this rich 👍
YESSSSSSSS more lycra content!!!!!!. Rich said he pumped up the tires to avoid punctures. What pressures did he run? Keep the XC content coming . Here in Greece it is the dominent part of mtb.
That was a pretty extreme test of a hardcore XC hardtail, but how about the same trail on one of the new breed of short travel XC/Trail bikes, like the Revel Ranger, Transition Spur or Norco Revolver. Would love to see how much more capable these bikes are than the older XC full sussers
Really glad to see that you on an XC bike, riding down a DH track looks nearly as uncomfortable as me riding down a flow trail on an enduro or trail bike.
oh ye of little faith!! you'd be absolutely amazed what it takes to snap a good carbon frame, or a good ally frame to be fair! ive done a couple, but I've also put some xc hardtails through absolute hell!! I've tried hitting jumps not far off the motorway section at fort will (and yes I've been there in person and ridden them on an enduro, and yes the absolutely look smaller on tv!) and I'm a much much worse rider than rich so I've cased a fair number too! then you always snap the frame on the stupid little ditches and stuff. I'd love to see someone try to motorway on an xc bike at full speed 😂
The video gives me an idea, how about the GMBN presenters doing a timed race. With the XC bike on a downhill track, with a downhill bike on an XC track and maybe an enduro race on a dirt bike :D
I know the feeling. My bike has rear suspension, but is 120mm front and back and although it's model is NDURO it's not for DH. It is scary on the DH trails with such bikes, but it is definitely fun and a great test for your skills. Some parts of those trails you might have to walk through, but who cares as long as you are having fun.
Crazy terrain to ride the XC bike, give us some more content on upgrades for XC bike . You ran a 100mm travel on your suspension, why not more travel or even bigger tires? Excellent video.
I did the Megavalanche trail on a hardtail soon after it opened on a titanium LiteSpeed with Pace forks back in the day took a couple of hours though ! (my only claim to fame)
That's the stuff I do with my hardtail and 100mm fork. I may not be super fast, but it works, is loads of fun and, thanks to a dropper post, very safe as well.
I have been riding a 120mm travel bike (front and rear) at a downhill bike park for a while now. Prefer it to the monster truck bikes that everyone else rides, you actually have to have really good bike control, balance and skills.
I've ridden my Trek XCaliber on double black downhill for a few years. It didn't like it, and I went through several wheel sets, but never did me wrong
I've taken my hardtail on some of the sketchier DH/enduro trails in my area. Though my hardtail has more travel, bigger brakes, and a burlier fork. This would be fun.
I think that's the beauty of riding a simpler bike, it's more challenging than with a longer travel one. Of course you're limited to what the bike can do and a different type of adrenaline. Don't get me wrong, it is still a challenge even with a more capable bike too because of the intensity you can ride with it. Cool!
I was racing xc in the late 80's as a teenager. We rode EVERYTHING on those rigid scooters. Kamikaze downhill.... I didn't race that but other people's did lol
I took my fs xc bike to Angel Fire last weekend and it went something like this video haha. It handled it but could have been way more comfortable. Definitely a fun experience
As you get down to bikes with less travel on a really tech trail like this, it shows just how good a rider really is, cause you have to really pick and choose your lines
I have a Canton Exceed, great bike for what is designed, a pro UCI DH course not so much! It has handled some moderate Colorado single track though. Musta been brutal with the tire pressure cranked!
i think you should have ridden it on your giga first and once you knew it or had a base time it would have been even more fun. but big kudos for sending that thing!
How about a comparison of XC vs trail riding hard tail, on similar terrain! By 'trail riding hard tail,' I mean something with a slacker head angle and 150mm Fox 36s or equivalent.
you're insane... OR a genius, you might of just introduced a new type of XC racing concept. ENDURO XC. It just like taking a 500cc dirt bike and taking down and up the craziest paths you can find. And God Danm, you make this look soo easy. Good form, Cheers!
If you can let them go, 29er wheels can roll over damn near anything, regardless of HTA. Good job though, this is much better than the "other" video where the guy over-forked an XC bike and put on heavy-duty tires. This is much more realistic.
Take a DH bike to an XC track
Yes yes yes yes, this neeeeddss to happen
Been there, done that, knackering, to use one word.
That would be boring though
We already know how that will pan out😂
@@frankiemazzei8882 yeah the dh bike would be a slowpoke
Every bike is a DH bike if you are brave enough.
Every bike can climb too, if you’re strong enough
@UnjustifiedRecs it can, it just need a push xD
I concur on that one I've had many bikes that I use for a DH that were not meant for that kind of punishment hence the word had many bikes
Yeah but why? The only reason to ride a HT on a downhill course is to make a RUclips video, outside of that you could be trying to escape from a wildfire. There is no point really.
factssssss
Give that bike to sam pilgrim and he will send the whole trail
Well, he would send the first half until the forks snap, then substitute with a downhill fork and send again until the frame snaps...
I reckon _Blake_ would also send it, perhaps without destroying the bike.
Its the dreaaaam.
Or Blake since he was in the video in the far back side of the left towards the end
Sam pilgrim would do this on a road bike
He’d do it on a bed frame.
Yesss, speed and power. Best Jerome Clarckson impression I've heard in a long time.
Yeah some say it's also a good impression of Jeremy Clarkson, of course he isnt as famous as the Jerome Clarckson.
Haha. Was going to post the same thing…
came here for this one
Every shot of Rich's face showed a huge smile..... that's why I ride a hardtail.
now we need a pro dh racer to do that on a hardtail
On an Enduro hardtail its nor problem. On that as light as possible XC bike i would be scared about the frame snapping.
@@kaedeschulz5422 on an enduro hard tail it’s still aids
@@bendavidson4958 true, but at least it's just aids, a xc hardtail is like having aids and crabs at the same time
@@shemshem9998 ahahhaha yeah, it’s just plain aids on even a dh rig
@@bendavidson4958 Yes it wouldn't be the most comfy ride. You wouldn't have worrie about part's snapping tho.
Welcome to downhilling in the 90s!
This video just gave me so much confidence! I thought I was just whimping out when I roll the big jumps at my bike park on my XC. Seeing Rich say "nope" makes me think I might know more about my bike than I think!
Living in a third world country the only thing that stop us from sending too hard is the expense of breaking any bike parts, too damn expensive even the mid range parts lol
Safety comes second
@@thedoggoesskrrrt haha well, your bones aren't cheap either. Stay safe out there
Rich's fox warranty claim form ." I was just riding along and"
Wow I always wanted to see an xc hardtail on dh tracks
Here it is
Same here!
I race my specialized Epic full squish in DH Races because I can't buy a DH bike where I live, and I used to race XC for a while. It's a whole hell of a lot of fun!
@@prajwalpingali How fast do you go with your XC bike compared to your counterparts with DH bike during a race? I assume there's a difference. Thanks!
@@yengsabio5315 I have pretty much converted my XC bike into a trail bike, Short 50mm stem, 750mm bars, dropper post and trail tyres, you name it! with that being said my times aren't all that bad. At the national level open DH competition I was mid pack in my time, to be fair, the course was a steep flow trail with big drops yeah, mid pack is usually how i place.
@@yengsabio5315 I do plan to upgrade to a big Enduro rig as i've maxed my XC/DH bike's capabilty with regards to speed and use range. It's fun! worth a try! however it's not the path to becoming a faster rider in the long run.
Now do: WC XC track with a DH Bike 😂
on she track with xc bike, frame might snap, the other way around, the rider snaps
Be suspicious when you see a fox 32 fork in the classifieds "Nice Fox Fork Barely Ridden in Great Condition!!"
hahah!
Next take under 300£ rigid bike down the same track.
Jesse Wigman raced the endurance dh on a specialized rigid jump bike, he did 13 runs in 6 hours and was 40th overall, absolutely insane. I was on my Last Herb and beat him by one place :)
@@andrewcunningham9256 Holy crap! Endurance DH sounds just totally god-awful. How do you register?
@@Tofu_Pilot it hasn't run for a few years :( Amazing event though. Give it a go if it comes back
Rich: Bet you've never seen trials on the Nevis range.
Scottish Six Days Trial: Am I a joke to you?!
this vid only makes me have more respect for XC bikes and downhill riders.
I don't have an enduro bike, so I have to ride with an XC bike, but less good than that. So that's what I have to put up with every day that I go up when riding.
What do you mean by XC bike? Do you mean a touring bike with MTB looks? I got myself a full-sus XC bike and so far the only thing limiting me down the descents is my low reaction time and lack of confidence.
@@diviscadilek1764 I ride a full-sus XC bike that can handle most descents, but compared to when riding an enduro/downhill bike I feel like I could go over the bars at any point.
But I bet you’re not riding fort William though 🤷♂️
@@bender6942 I hired a downhill bike for Fort William, I'm not stupid lol. Smooth tracks are fine at speed on my XC, but anything that can grab the front wheel is buttock clenching as you can only lean back so much before you go cartwheeling down the track.
i was riding about 2 years on budget XC bike on rough enduro trails, and bike is still alive, and me too! ;p
Mad skills. XC/Trail fan here. Keep the content coming.
Rich you crazy lad!! That was sick, quite literally. I feel queasy watching you do that.
Somehow everyone makes the same sounds on a MTB when they are terrified. The most fun video in a long while!!!
My son did his first trail yesterday. He whooped and shouted like me on my first.
*SAM PILGRIM HAS ENTERED THE CHAT ON A HALFORDS BIKE*
Free bike challenge pt ....?
Sam would go down that on the bed bike
@@stuarts4673 Nah, that bed bike scared the crap out of him. It's literally the only time in a video I've seen Sam scared and actually not try something.
He did ride a Walmart bike at Whistler.
we should suggest this to him! get a budget halfords bike under £200 and send it. they're actually not bad! for £200 you can get a phaze, and its sick! i used it at the local pump track and its well fun
I went from this video straight to watch Danny harts full run as never watched full runs ever before . Man that is amazing, my eyes could hardly keep up .
Nice one for this rich 👍
"speed and power". I loved the Jeremy Clarkson reference.
The saying goes "It's not about the horse, it's about the rider."
But the rider would have gone a lot faster with a faster horse
@@callumhoult7930 Duh.
YESSSSSSSS more lycra content!!!!!!. Rich said he pumped up the tires to avoid punctures. What pressures did he run? Keep the XC content coming . Here in Greece it is the dominent part of mtb.
That was a pretty extreme test of a hardcore XC hardtail, but how about the same trail on one of the new breed of short travel XC/Trail bikes, like the Revel Ranger, Transition Spur or Norco Revolver. Would love to see how much more capable these bikes are than the older XC full sussers
Or even the 2022 Top fuel. Same trail
New scott spark with 120mm front and rear
Your lauch sounds lika an absolute maniac and i love it!
Really glad to see that you on an XC bike, riding down a DH track looks nearly as uncomfortable as me riding down a flow trail on an enduro or trail bike.
They filled the 4th Richard with a whopping 35psi of laughing gas and he didn't break !
I love the new pink helmets!
Really tempting to buy it for myself!
Rider skills and ability 💯 %
oh ye of little faith!! you'd be absolutely amazed what it takes to snap a good carbon frame, or a good ally frame to be fair! ive done a couple, but I've also put some xc hardtails through absolute hell!! I've tried hitting jumps not far off the motorway section at fort will (and yes I've been there in person and ridden them on an enduro, and yes the absolutely look smaller on tv!) and I'm a much much worse rider than rich so I've cased a fair number too! then you always snap the frame on the stupid little ditches and stuff. I'd love to see someone try to motorway on an xc bike at full speed 😂
The video gives me an idea, how about the GMBN presenters doing a timed race. With the XC bike on a downhill track, with a downhill bike on an XC track and maybe an enduro race on a dirt bike :D
@2:20 LOVE THE CLARKSON IMPRESSION POWEEEEHHHH
I really appreciate the Clarkson reference. My new favorite GMBN presenter
Trials skills on a XC bike downhill. Love it.
Works very well. Nice color rainbow. Great.
Love the Jeremy Clarkson 'speed and power' line.😎
That looked like a blast coming down. Keep up the good work safe out there.
Fantastic idea ! And very fun ! For the next! Xco groupset in DH Bike ! In xco circuit !
I know the feeling. My bike has rear suspension, but is 120mm front and back and although it's model is NDURO it's not for DH. It is scary on the DH trails with such bikes, but it is definitely fun and a great test for your skills. Some parts of those trails you might have to walk through, but who cares as long as you are having fun.
#GMBN 10% is bike 90% is the riders balls and the know how to ride a DH track!😀😃🤘🤘
Crazy terrain to ride the XC bike, give us some more content on upgrades for XC bike . You ran a 100mm travel on your suspension, why not more travel or even bigger tires? Excellent video.
I recently took my 80 mill travel hard tail xc bike down a bunch of rocky black trails in Texas, it was horrendous but so much fun!
Loving the XC content. More please!
I did the Megavalanche trail on a hardtail soon after it opened on a titanium LiteSpeed with Pace forks back in the day took a couple of hours though ! (my only claim to fame)
Yes, more XC and trail content please.
How we used to ride in the late 80’s... minus the suspension.... decent rubber... body protection.... oh, and beautifully built trails...
Next time, Blake takes on fort William on his gravel bike!
@@ark8tct I completely agree
That's the stuff I do with my hardtail and 100mm fork. I may not be super fast, but it works, is loads of fun and, thanks to a dropper post, very safe as well.
I bet you mean "safer." As in a bit less dangerous. I love my dropper though.
When Ritch said "speed and power" I heard Jerremy Clarkson yelling.
I have been riding a 120mm travel bike (front and rear) at a downhill bike park for a while now. Prefer it to the monster truck bikes that everyone else rides, you actually have to have really good bike control, balance and skills.
Respect and skill got you through. Love the laugh to cope with the fear strategy.
I've ridden my Trek XCaliber on double black downhill for a few years. It didn't like it, and I went through several wheel sets, but never did me wrong
Still better than be when doing a relaxed blue trail with a proper bike. Well done Rich!
I've taken my hardtail on some of the sketchier DH/enduro trails in my area. Though my hardtail has more travel, bigger brakes, and a burlier fork. This would be fun.
John tomac raced the Cross Country, and downhill World cups, back in the day,on the same weekend 😁
Mad skills bruh!!!
Cheers ma dude 👊
I love how rich is laughing I wouldn't be laughing if I had to go down that track on the XC bike
I don't think what I would be saying would be publishable on gmbn
would it be something on the lines of fuck fuck holy shit lol
You did very good on that trail
"terrifiying fun" the exactly word to describe xc hardtail in hard condition ! :D
I think that's the beauty of riding a simpler bike, it's more challenging than with a longer travel one. Of course you're limited to what the bike can do and a different type of adrenaline. Don't get me wrong, it is still a challenge even with a more capable bike too because of the intensity you can ride with it. Cool!
Do you even ride bro
@@mmattdude6194 no, I just walk sideways. Lol
Can you develop a brain and provide an actual argument?
I was racing xc in the late 80's as a teenager. We rode EVERYTHING on those rigid scooters. Kamikaze downhill.... I didn't race that but other people's did lol
Nice one Rich 🤙
2022 DH world Cup will be dominated by riders on 120mm cross country bikes with linkage forks and 32 inch wheels. You heard it here first.
Would like to see a breakdown of that bike from Doddy to see exactly how much damage the trail done to it 🤔
I took my fs xc bike to Angel Fire last weekend and it went something like this video haha. It handled it but could have been way more comfortable. Definitely a fun experience
Yeeeeeees SPEED AND POWER. A Jeremy Clarkson reference is always welcome
This was awesome! Have been waiting for someone to do something like this! How far do you reccon you could push a modern full sus xc?
If you’re Blake then full send
As you get down to bikes with less travel on a really tech trail like this, it shows just how good a rider really is, cause you have to really pick and choose your lines
Absolute madman
I have a Canton Exceed, great bike for what is designed, a pro UCI DH course not so much! It has handled some moderate Colorado single track though. Musta been brutal with the tire pressure cranked!
i think you should have ridden it on your giga first and once you knew it or had a base time it would have been even more fun. but big kudos for sending that thing!
Fair play 🙌
Even on a DH rig that track is so brutal
That XC bike took a pounding!! Proof it can be done with proper execution 👍
You should have brought Neil, he loves his XC bike!
The obvious sequel is now needed. Take a World Cup DH bike around a World Cup XC course.
Euan Thompson did this from Buzzin on Bikes. We need a race between you guys👌
Rich: Doesn't send jumps because he's on an xc bike
Me: Sends jumps on a 15 year old hybrid bike that breaks once a week
This was entertaining and informative - really well done overall.
Loving Blake laughing his ass in the background 😂
Haha! 😂
WC XC rider use a fully with dropper on hard course, so, yes.. nice video, but harder than it should be.. poor Rich!
Christ Rich. You’ve got church bells in those trousers. 🤣
How about a comparison of XC vs trail riding hard tail, on similar terrain! By 'trail riding hard tail,' I mean something with a slacker head angle and 150mm Fox 36s or equivalent.
rich you absolute madman
My first DH bike was a parts bin hard tail Scott YZ with a 140mil Pike fork. Sketch is also fun when you’re poor
you're insane... OR a genius, you might of just introduced a new type of XC racing concept. ENDURO XC. It just like taking a 500cc dirt bike and taking down and up the craziest paths you can find. And God Danm, you make this look soo easy. Good form, Cheers!
this is one of the best video
Wow! I was going to say that Fox 32 is going to need a rebuild after that one run on F.W but it may need to be scrapped entirely. Ouch.
Love these types of videos 😂😂😂👍
Wicked, love the manic laughter !!!
Great! *Now do an XC track on an enduro hardtail.*
Same thing happened to my rebound knob on my XC bike...same fork. Its a design problem.
If you can let them go, 29er wheels can roll over damn near anything, regardless of HTA. Good job though, this is much better than the "other" video where the guy over-forked an XC bike and put on heavy-duty tires. This is much more realistic.
I've been learning on a kona fire mountain (xc hardtail) and yeah this summs it up, the bike is a deathtrap lmao
you should chose FS xc bike 120mm (noone on pro xc event race on HT form years)
That has to be the burliest xc bike i've ever seen it took the track like a champ
I would like to see you guys do some DH or Enduro stuff on the Canyon Stoic 4 hardtail. Neil has one you can use...LOL
Brave riding that bike, braver still wearing that color helmet.
I thought it was slomo until the slomo edits came, makes you appreciate how fast the DH racers are going