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  • @gmbn
    @gmbn Год назад +27

    Are you team XC bike or team Enduro bike? Let us know 👇

    • @marekadamek1428
      @marekadamek1428 Год назад +2

      XC but I like enduro as well😊

    • @DimeTheDestroyer
      @DimeTheDestroyer Год назад +3

      Due to budget constraints i only have an XC bike .. for now
      No need to decide which one is better N+1 will always solve this question
      Ahhah😅😂

    • @HJ-bz4vn
      @HJ-bz4vn Год назад +1

      xc now geeze...

    • @jpandriesse3954
      @jpandriesse3954 Год назад +2

      Team trail/AM ;)

    • @CarlosRodriguez-bo4sx
      @CarlosRodriguez-bo4sx Год назад +1

      I ride both -plus I have a trail bike. Definitely can see the benefits for either use.

  • @skokartong
    @skokartong Год назад +207

    257 km of elevation in 5.1 km of distance, quite a steep climb you got there :)

    • @football_freak_la23
      @football_freak_la23 Год назад +11

      257 km? 😂

    • @laurynasjagelo5075
      @laurynasjagelo5075 Год назад +9

      @@football_freak_la23 written at the start.

    • @badagaioo
      @badagaioo Год назад

      😅

    • @Ferrari255GTO
      @Ferrari255GTO Год назад +9

      ​​@@football_freak_la23 it was suposed to be meters and not kilometers, they absolutely obliterated the metrics XD

    • @khchoi2012
      @khchoi2012 Год назад +1

      I noticed that as well. Probably the Garmin rubbish! :-p

  • @callumharding8029
    @callumharding8029 Год назад +173

    I'd be so interested to see a third contender on a 140mm trail bike and how if the median option might have faired better or worse

    • @markgeorge2200
      @markgeorge2200 Год назад +4

      This is a very good point, that would def be interesting

    • @szabolcspap7766
      @szabolcspap7766 Год назад +10

      A 13kg 140/130 trail bike would be definitely a winner.

    • @hambo76
      @hambo76 Год назад +2

      Wait until the new Canyon Neuron launches and try that!

    • @janpesek4862
      @janpesek4862 Год назад +4

      ​@@szabolcspap7766 I think XC would be winner since downhill capability of these two bikes would be near identical and XC would still have advantage in climbing due to lower weight, more efficiency and better geometry for climbing.

    • @kevankerdcycling86
      @kevankerdcycling86 Год назад

      The course favored the XC bike, therefore, I think it would still have won.

  • @Guenther-Eichinger
    @Guenther-Eichinger Год назад +92

    Now think about how fast Neil would have been uphill with the XC-Bike
    Would be interesting if they change bikes and repeat the race.
    Thanks for this amazing video!

    • @paulskibum
      @paulskibum Год назад +2

      Totally - I was thinking the same - if bikes were reversed I feel Neil would have had a greater gap than in the challenge - the combined weights would have put Blake 12kg heavier than Neil for a start! If my maths is right

  • @jacobuserasmus
    @jacobuserasmus Год назад +47

    I also want to see XC racer vs Enduro racer.Having the stamina to climb fast is something you need to practice. So I would love to see a top XC racer take an enduro bike up the hilll and the other way around to see what the difference in their fitness and skill levels are. Good job Blake I'm always impressed with your power and endurance.

    • @WaechterDerNacht
      @WaechterDerNacht Год назад +1

      That would be really interesting! E.g. Katy Winton vs. Evie Richards once on their race bikes and once on their opposites disciplines bike.

    • @ivostarmans1199
      @ivostarmans1199 Год назад +1

      @@WaechterDerNacht like Jolanda Neff with a 120mm bike. Very fast uphill but also she flys downhill.

    • @mutleyadamsracing2684
      @mutleyadamsracing2684 Год назад +1

      XC WC racers have the big advantage of fitness and bike handling. Pro Enduro riders are fit too but not at the level of the xc racers. The climbs are where it's won almost all the time.

    • @jacobuserasmus
      @jacobuserasmus Год назад

      @@mutleyadamsracing2684 yes my experience is also that XCO is definitely won on the climbs. Racing XCO myself I was surprised when I entered a Enduro race how strong the Enduro riders are on the climbs. The difference is just that they would spend some time recovering at the top where I would simply drop into my run without needed to recover.

  • @kevankerdcycling86
    @kevankerdcycling86 Год назад +5

    I love how Blake calls the 120mm FS a boneshaker! 😅Meanwhile im riding down rocky trails as fast as I can on my 100mm hardtail without a dropper... 120mm FS would feel like riding a cloud for me!
    Great point made by Neil regarding being too tired to ride as fast as possible on the downhills. Alot of enduro riders do a climb, stop at the beginning of the trail for a few mins and then ride down. Meanwhile us XC riders ride up the climb at a fast pace and drop into the trail right away.
    I really enjoyed the video, excellent and realistic content! Keep it coming!

  • @CarlosRodriguez-bo4sx
    @CarlosRodriguez-bo4sx Год назад +2

    Wow guys. This is probably the most exciting and interesting video I've watched this year. Watching both of you descending was freaking great. Thanks for putting this out.

  • @tonymcdow7206
    @tonymcdow7206 Год назад +6

    What a great video guys! Loved it! I got tired just watching you guys! Proves that there is no perfect bike, just different tools for different goals. Thank you!

  • @simonrook5743
    @simonrook5743 Год назад +5

    Enjoyed that, called the result right.
    But I think a decent 130/140mm trail bike would take the win, about 12.5kg so possibly only 15s slower up but not far off the enduro for most that decent.

  • @gmbmedia28
    @gmbmedia28 Год назад +6

    Man that Orbea Oiz is one beautiful bike 😍

  • @aaronthewhiz3160
    @aaronthewhiz3160 Год назад +2

    Yes! This is classic GMBN I love it

  • @palioman
    @palioman 11 месяцев назад +1

    Blake and Neil left it all out there, what an effort! Being an XC rider myself I had my fists clinched for Blake the whole time! They both did so well!❤

  • @Bear0280
    @Bear0280 Год назад +1

    Hey Neil and Blake it was great to see you both put both the XC and the Enduro to the test. Going hard as always Boys Love your work thanks for the Vlog ✌🏼Out Jay

  • @Pseudo-Z
    @Pseudo-Z Год назад +2

    Funny how the view numbers on these awesome videos double as the season is starting. Keep it up guys.

  • @alanmartinezrodriguez884
    @alanmartinezrodriguez884 Год назад +15

    Hey GMBN, this is pure quality! Beautiful shots! Neil and Blake were on 🔥 for this one!

  • @stevengoodwin3154
    @stevengoodwin3154 Год назад +8

    The 120mm travel bikes are really hard to beat on a loop type route. This isn't a surprise if you've been paying attention to the last few years worth of bike reviews and category comparisons. This is also why a rock a Specialized Epic Evo. ✌

  • @427060
    @427060 Год назад +3

    I had always assumed you guys were in your late 20s/early 30s! Exercise and fun go a long way.

  • @martinschwartz7342
    @martinschwartz7342 Год назад +4

    I wouldn't wish it on you to do it again but I would have liked to have seen a follow-up of Blake on the enduro and Neil on the xc bike. That would have shown how much of the outcome of this contest was due to the bikes and how much was due to the riders.

  • @dopeyzombie
    @dopeyzombie Год назад

    I used to have a Giant XC bike as well until it was stolen then moved on to a SB150. I can certainly relate the difference in climbing on an enduro bike brings new challenge. Great video.

  • @suesheane3671
    @suesheane3671 Год назад +4

    Great video Blake and Neil. Love the competitive but fun race. 🤟👍

    • @gmbn
      @gmbn Год назад

      Thanks for watching! We're stoked that you enjoyed!

  • @joeyc8546
    @joeyc8546 Год назад

    Good on Blake and the Orbea! Nice to see how fast my bike can go 😊 havent pushed it as much as that though, or dare to.

  • @pinoyteam6417
    @pinoyteam6417 Год назад

    I love watching y'alls challenges. Great run.

  • @tmthytw
    @tmthytw Год назад +11

    I imagine if you were to put beefier tyres on the 120mm Oiz, it would probably one of the best allround mtbs there is today for anyone, whos not regularly in a bikepark but keeps to "nature trails" and such.

    • @The2808erik
      @The2808erik Год назад +1

      Probably a short travel trail bike with big tires would split the difference quite well.

    • @overseer_grimal
      @overseer_grimal Год назад +1

      I think it has too xc racey geometry for that and as a result an aggressive riding position. Besides that it has long stem, short wheel base, short dropper post. There are trail oriented short-travel bikes like spur/smuggler, tallboy or izzo which seem to be a better all-rounder

  • @SprSonik13
    @SprSonik13 Год назад +8

    the advantage in a timed loop with equal parts climbing and descending (unless the descent is brutal) is always with the lighter bike all else being equal. The gap is based on speed over time, and climbing stages simply take more time. I’ve done this challenge personally on many of my favorite trail loops and the bigger bike was never faster overall.

    • @SprSonik13
      @SprSonik13 Год назад

      and the more you show it, the more I love this bike park!

    • @destchaos9732
      @destchaos9732 Год назад

      This. You’re absolutely right.

    • @nickh3533
      @nickh3533 Год назад

      Than my trail MTB i should have added* (which is 6kg heavier)

  • @anonmoose9727
    @anonmoose9727 Год назад +8

    The really interesting bit was that Blake didn't attempt the big jump on a 120mm bike (even though he's Blake), but Neil jumped it no problem. But Blake didn't lose that much downhill overall. This was super interesting.

    • @neildonoghueMTB
      @neildonoghueMTB Год назад +9

      It was super windy, so Blake didn't want to take his chances on the light bike

    • @anonmoose9727
      @anonmoose9727 Год назад +2

      @@neildonoghueMTB ah, OK. I was wondering why. I wouldn't do a jump like that on ANY bike! (ex-roadie turned XC). Loving your channel, Neil! 😀

  • @natea526
    @natea526 Год назад +3

    Production just keeps getting better every video! Love it

    • @gmbn
      @gmbn Год назад

      Appreciate it! We have such a great team behind the camera!

  • @1975normal
    @1975normal Год назад

    Definitely you guys gave it your best. Thank you

  • @hectorlmges
    @hectorlmges Год назад +2

    thanks for the video, some months ago I chose a YT Izzo. Best of both worlds? I don’t know but pretty happy with the choice

  • @paulboehm404
    @paulboehm404 Год назад +4

    Would like to see you switch bikes and see if it was Blake's strength or the lighter bike that put him a minute ahead after the climb. Great video as always, guys.

  • @DanielMatheny
    @DanielMatheny Год назад

    fun to watch and I tend to do this both depending on the day between 120mm platform and a 160mm platform.

  • @MrGrayFox0
    @MrGrayFox0 Год назад

    Neil!- I love nothing more then changing and/or installing tuebeless tyres!

  • @Velo1010
    @Velo1010 Год назад

    I’ve noticed the big riding glasses have come back into style. Takes me back to the late 80’s

  • @ubergaard
    @ubergaard Год назад +5

    Both are just unbelievably good riders 👏🏻👊🏻😃

  • @timdatoolman83
    @timdatoolman83 Год назад +1

    Loved it guys, great entertaining vid!!

    • @gmbn
      @gmbn Год назад

      Legend! Thanks so much!

  • @the_spanner_ch7mp
    @the_spanner_ch7mp Год назад +1

    The one hell of a race and agree that you wouldn't have been able to do both those runs in one day Neil.
    The Don made alot of time up on the downhill still got it Neil.
    Awesome stuff #GMBN 🤘

    • @gmbn
      @gmbn Год назад +1

      Yeah, it was one hell of a ride for both of them! We're stoked you enjoyed! 👊

  • @stephendutton3766
    @stephendutton3766 Год назад +2

    Have had a superlight xc bike, then an enduro bike I definitely agree that I'd go with the enduro. The fun from the extra effort is well worth it and over rougher stuff they just soak it all up. Well being shaken apart as I get older.

  • @raianv.maretto7561
    @raianv.maretto7561 Год назад +3

    I'll always go for the Enduro bike for sure. I don't mind climbing slower, just wanna have a lot of fun when downhill 🙂

  • @daveland3599
    @daveland3599 Год назад

    That looked exhausting. Good work guys

  • @jalapenohotcakes
    @jalapenohotcakes Год назад

    This was a good video. I appreciate it he honest competition. The fact that you really showed the real results without trying to make it look all razor thin and dramatic. One critique. They should come back a week later and Niel go on his xc bike and Blake do the endouro. Please do another video where they switch bikes!

  • @thenormalberries6767
    @thenormalberries6767 5 месяцев назад

    I missed an actual good upload from you guys.

  • @Muhametgiden
    @Muhametgiden Год назад

    Truly OG's !!! Big respect 🤜🤛👏

  • @andrec.136
    @andrec.136 Год назад +1

    I can attest to that outcome. I had a hard tail cross country bike up until 2019, sold it and got a full suspension trail bike in 2020. Since then I was unable to beat any of 2019 times on Strava where hills were involved.

  • @mohamedbactiarmohamedali4399
    @mohamedbactiarmohamedali4399 Год назад +3

    Doddy should join in riding a trail bike.😊

  • @meghshyamdesai9906
    @meghshyamdesai9906 Год назад

    What a video!!!
    Pure content

  • @augustoespinal57
    @augustoespinal57 Год назад

    Great video guys 🔥🔥

  • @arikpeterson6260
    @arikpeterson6260 Год назад

    Well done guys!

  • @DottorNish
    @DottorNish Год назад

    Congrats on such great content as always! Just an observation: I would recommend to wear goggles always above the helmet straps so they are free to jump out in case of a crash not cutting our useful eyeballs 😊😊

  • @portela.araujo
    @portela.araujo Год назад +1

    @gmbn should make a shirt saying "I can taste blood" !! 😂

  • @ninongshortride
    @ninongshortride Год назад

    This was epic and I was honestly at the edge of my seat. Can you guys reveal how many camera men you had along the way?

  • @jawico
    @jawico Год назад

    Great video, I was surprised at how much quicker the enduro bike was on the downhill.

  • @tomassanesson902
    @tomassanesson902 Год назад +1

    Awesome epik cool video 👍🤘🤘🤘

  • @tomcagle5324
    @tomcagle5324 Год назад +1

    Enduro me everytime...travel is king... especially with shock/fork travel switches. I could care less about KOM climbing. Just enough to take some pain out when going up.

  • @johnnykramolis7469
    @johnnykramolis7469 Год назад +3

    Great video! Now you should do it again, just swap your bikes. ;)

  • @federaldelii
    @federaldelii Год назад +1

    Wowww nice thrilling episode 💯🤘🏻

  • @Seppster58
    @Seppster58 Год назад

    Blake : "Why do we do this?" Well, you do it for us. And that is why we love you so much. Great comparison guys. Love the content!!

  • @anitalandkroon
    @anitalandkroon Год назад

    Super video 😃 i was there one’s 😎 it was really beautiful and for every level ❤

  • @dwook1234
    @dwook1234 Год назад

    Nice production quality

  • @allenjanes5976
    @allenjanes5976 Год назад

    I race a 2019 stumpy, cross country in the Pacific Northwest and north Idaho. Lots of bikes go around me on the climbs. Although I retake some on the down hill, I never get them all

  • @Montblanc1986
    @Montblanc1986 Год назад +1

    I bought an Enduro with SRAM flight attendant and I can tell you that thing feels like an SE bike when I put XE tires on it. It really is amazing. I can’t tell the difference from a specialized epic to my Enduro.

  • @RobertFullStop
    @RobertFullStop Год назад +1

    That was a much closer race than I thought it would be

  • @FreemanBR
    @FreemanBR Год назад

    The Alain Prost and Senna reference hit me hard 😍😭

  • @AFugax
    @AFugax Год назад +1

    So fun to see…of course I would pick the enduro as it’s good enough up and way more fun down. But of course having one of each is really the way to go!!! N+1

  • @qazwsxedc4132
    @qazwsxedc4132 Год назад

    Great video. ..I propose a rematch... this time in the reverse... Neil on a xc and Blake on the enduro

  • @millerk20
    @millerk20 Год назад +2

    The problem with your test is that Blake isn't your typical XC rider and could bomb downhill on any bike.

    • @skinny8019
      @skinny8019 Год назад

      This is a great point.

    • @markgeorge2200
      @markgeorge2200 Год назад

      I guess tho that would theoretically make him worse on the climbs, so it might even it out but that's still a good point.

  • @jasonlupke993
    @jasonlupke993 Год назад

    I love them both! It just depends if I’m going out training or shredding

  • @jasemaxable
    @jasemaxable Год назад

    Great vid

    • @gmbn
      @gmbn Год назад

      Thanks! 🤘

  • @grandpashreddypants
    @grandpashreddypants Год назад

    Very informative. Too tough the same day.. maybe a week apart in a perfect world I'd like to see the reverse.

  • @skiahh
    @skiahh Год назад +1

    Rematch! I'd love to see how the Rallon does going up vs the XC bike!

    • @gmbn
      @gmbn Год назад +1

      Yeah, that would be cool! Blake's Orbea Rallon has a coil shock, so it would be interesting to see if that makes any difference on the climb.

  • @stevencole7331
    @stevencole7331 Год назад

    My last mountain bike xc race and I was doing well on the climbs but got clobbered on the downs . I was surprised how many minutes I fell to people I clobbered on the climbs .
    The bikes today allows for so much more speed on the downs that the days of winning on the climb is not a guarantee anymore

  • @michaelbatey348
    @michaelbatey348 Год назад +14

    I watched this and Ive come to the conclusion that a 140mm trail bike would be the ideal machine. 😊

    • @komoonkh
      @komoonkh Год назад +1

      For most people, definitely yes😊

    • @simonrook5743
      @simonrook5743 Год назад +2

      Me too, which is what I have!

    • @michaelbatey348
      @michaelbatey348 Год назад +1

      @@simonrook5743 I've got scout 290 running 27.5x2.8 tyres with 140 fork. More than enough of a bike.

    • @vashusan1984
      @vashusan1984 Год назад +2

      Ha ha, I got 140 rear and 160 up front with plenty of antisquat. About 14.3 kg, it's a blast to ride anywhere.

    • @jasonpatrickdeleon4701
      @jasonpatrickdeleon4701 Год назад

      if you are not a hardcore rider 140 si enough

  • @larrymoore2571
    @larrymoore2571 Год назад

    I was thinking that Blake would be 2nd on the uphill even with the xc bike.. he proved me wrong.

  • @craig8638
    @craig8638 Год назад

    The end result is you are both beast. I’ve been thinking about trading in my Slash for something lighter. This may have pushed me over the edge.

  • @pinsxthree
    @pinsxthree Год назад

    Fun factor and misery factor should be included! LOL

  • @caperider1160
    @caperider1160 Год назад

    That was sick! I enjoyed every bit of the video. Now gentlemen, pls swap the bikes and go for a second run!!!

  • @Pienimusta
    @Pienimusta Год назад +1

    Blake is a powerhouse!

  • @stefanocspt6732
    @stefanocspt6732 Год назад

    Try Orbea Rallon instead of Nukeproof : it has more antisquat , more efficient on climbing , although more pedal kickback

  • @Robin_Hood381
    @Robin_Hood381 11 месяцев назад

    Would love to see you guys enter an enduro race with the xc bike lol

  • @patjocueto8751
    @patjocueto8751 Год назад

    It would be Awesome if the two of you Join the ABSA cape epic 😊

  • @jonboy1066
    @jonboy1066 Год назад

    Holy Shitballs!!!! That climb is brutal enough in a pickup truck! I wouldn’t ever want to pedal it! 😂

  • @kjracz15
    @kjracz15 Год назад +1

    Remember those days when Blake "hated" being clipped in? 😆

  • @Tr3zn3r
    @Tr3zn3r Год назад

    I’m still working on my climbing ability and would die on this hill if I couldn’t take breaks! 😂 see me walking my sh*t up at least 25 percent of it. I love Orbea Bikes but the Nukeproof Giga is awesome.

  • @derrickquintal
    @derrickquintal Год назад

    I honestly would never have guessed that The Don was 41 years young! Just goes to show that moss don't grow on a rolling stone!

  • @petekirwin2420
    @petekirwin2420 Год назад

    Got to be done the opposing way round. Only true way to show results, not the same day though 😬😂

  • @nolanrtdbikes9515
    @nolanrtdbikes9515 Год назад

    Hey guys, i've the Nukeproof Mega factory 29' and he's awesome, 170mm front 150 mm rear 🤟

  • @jamesweldon8118
    @jamesweldon8118 Год назад +4

    Why do I feel like I’ve seen this before?

  • @paponatrilha3385
    @paponatrilha3385 Год назад

    O peso rotacional na subida, castiga bem e faz toda diferença em relação a tempo. É uma comparação estranha, pois cada uma tem objetivos distintos. Mas pra for Fan, ok. Parabéns 👊👊👊

  • @1975agc
    @1975agc Год назад

    My XC bike weights almost as Neil's enduro bike haha!!!

  • @pernyberg2816
    @pernyberg2816 Год назад

    Would have been interesting if they had the same tyres. Casing stiffness does a lot to rolling resistance. I bet that is a bigger factor on the climbs than the SYSTEM weight - that actually was in favor FOR the enduro bike?!

  • @a.kolokotronis
    @a.kolokotronis Год назад

    old cool dudes on bikes. finally i can relate

  • @bonzaiii3
    @bonzaiii3 Год назад

    That Orbea is a beautiful bike

  • @mrbigolnuts3041
    @mrbigolnuts3041 Год назад

    Ok guys, same race, but Nuke Proof Scout vs Trek Supercaliber please!!

  • @philippeambrosi-santamaria2988

    Best choice would have been the medium bike: 29' wheels with 140 mm travel. "trail bike?" Very nice video. Thanks

  • @antondegruchy6899
    @antondegruchy6899 Год назад

    Try the Enduro bike on something like a Cape Epic stage 98Km, 2500m elevation and see how you struggle, yet the terrain is far more difficult and technical then shown here.

  • @ericjohnflorida3419
    @ericjohnflorida3419 Год назад +4

    what if the race starts with a downhill and ends with uphill? will there be a difference?

  • @Bcskier44
    @Bcskier44 Год назад

    Love the ending “I can taste blood” “why do we do this?!”

  • @kaltonian
    @kaltonian Год назад +4

    there both good capable bikes but it is worth deciding what type of riding you prefer in order to decide which machine is right for you as there is a difference which is something that i would of ignored apart from the obvious downhill type mtb's,
    good race guys 👍

  • @dennisfloyd8514
    @dennisfloyd8514 Год назад

    Now you need to do it again but switch. Neil on XC and Blake on Enduro.

  • @kirillnazarovvvvvvv
    @kirillnazarovvvvvvv Год назад

    Вот это шикарное сравнение! Респект!)

  • @mikeburgh3956
    @mikeburgh3956 Месяц назад

    Man I would LOVE to have the yellow ☢️ I ride a red ☢️ scout 275 which is going to be a mullet very soon!!

  • @mountaincruiser817
    @mountaincruiser817 Год назад

    Only when you switched bikes the second day and did it again it would come a little bit closer to something of a result. Fun to watch nonetheless.