Don't Top Off Your Fuel Tank - Large Potential Repair Bill

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  • Topping off your fuel tank with petrol can cause damage to your Evaporative Emission Control System (EVAP) leading to an expensive repair bill. In this video I explain why.
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    00:00 The risk
    01:16 EVAP system
    02:48 Cause of damage
    03:24 The symptoms
    05:07 Fill tank economy test

Комментарии • 694

  • @zydol1
    @zydol1 Месяц назад +953

    I once put so much petrol in my car that I couldn't get in!

    • @colinjava8447
      @colinjava8447 Месяц назад +86

      Petrol goes in the petrol tank, not inside the car via the window.😂

    • @MsAfrocomb1
      @MsAfrocomb1 Месяц назад +2

      😜

    • @batatvafrica
      @batatvafrica Месяц назад +1

      😅😅

    • @marymcv3442
      @marymcv3442 Месяц назад +20

      Once I filled my garage with petrol (I thought steeping my car in it overnight would be a nice efficient way of refuelling), but it ended up seeping through the wall and flooding my kitchen, so I had petrol-flavoured breakfast cereal for the next six months ...

    • @StArShIpEnTeRpRiSe
      @StArShIpEnTeRpRiSe Месяц назад +27

      @@colinjava8447 Oh, so that's why they screamed with me on the gas station.....
      They scared me so much, the cigar almost fell out of my mouth.

  • @Goproflying
    @Goproflying Месяц назад +342

    If my shoes don't smell of diesel when I fill up, I haven't put enough in.

    • @benholroyd5221
      @benholroyd5221 Месяц назад

      Your aim must be rubbish. Hope I don't have to stand next to you at the urinal

    • @josephocallaghan3000
      @josephocallaghan3000 Месяц назад +1

      in a gas car

    • @Benoit-Pierre
      @Benoit-Pierre Месяц назад

      You are American

    • @ZonexG
      @ZonexG Месяц назад +2

      @@Benoit-PierreAmericans don’t really have diesel cars…

    • @ivolokiris1472
      @ivolokiris1472 Месяц назад

      @@ZonexG They mostly ride trucks dont they?

  • @scarletbanana6429
    @scarletbanana6429 Месяц назад +253

    Decided to comment here that I passed my practical test today with only one minor! These videos have been a huge help, thank you very much!

    • @supergeekjay
      @supergeekjay Месяц назад +19

      Congratulations! 🥳🥳🥳Stay safe, don't drive like an idiot. Remember, it's harder to get your license, than to lose it. Look out for your fellow drivers, even if they don't look out for you. 💪

    • @Lego6980
      @Lego6980 Месяц назад +2

      Bravo!

    • @Joe-lb8qn
      @Joe-lb8qn Месяц назад +2

      Congrats !!

    • @robinthebobin6537
      @robinthebobin6537 Месяц назад +2

      Well done!! Stay safe, and try not to curb your wheels in the maccies drive through😂

    • @L_U-K_E
      @L_U-K_E Месяц назад

      🥳

  • @paulriggers1558
    @paulriggers1558 Месяц назад +98

    main dealer master tech here, still waiting for this scenario to play out, for 44yrs this has never happened for me, hope i see one before i retire...

    • @cannaroe1213
      @cannaroe1213 Месяц назад +6

      It doesn't ever happen, because the fuel loop (from tank to engine and back) is full of air when the car is turned off at the petrol station. This air goes up the filler neck when you start her up again. Maybe it could happen if you left the car running when you filled up, and then you immediatly set off down hill or something

    • @khznator
      @khznator Месяц назад +4

      @@cannaroe1213 I heard people in america leave their car running when topping their fuel in which i found bizzare and crazy.

    • @cannaroe1213
      @cannaroe1213 Месяц назад +3

      @@khznator its actually perfectly safe but as a Brit myself I do find it very weird :P

    • @alecsdinu
      @alecsdinu Месяц назад +6

      I have had this happen on a gas car after only 2 times I filled to the brim. The second time I did it, I had an error regarding de Evap system and I had to replace the carbon box, which made the error go away. What he's saying in the video is 100 % valid.

    • @paulriggers1558
      @paulriggers1558 Месяц назад +1

      @@alecsdinu never happens in european cars, you from america ?

  • @GranthamAtHome
    @GranthamAtHome Месяц назад +213

    Only been driving 52 years, still ride motorbikes, and still learning thanks to guys like you.

    • @-aid4084
      @-aid4084 Месяц назад +2

      Gotta be coming up to your 70'th birthday soon right?

    • @xpusostomos
      @xpusostomos Месяц назад +5

      52 years ago... This wasn't a thing

    • @davedee923
      @davedee923 Месяц назад

      Ditto - old car/bike: not a problem.

    • @mikoaj2323
      @mikoaj2323 Месяц назад +1

      Well, beginnings are hard, keep it up!

  • @jeffreysanborn1005
    @jeffreysanborn1005 Месяц назад +51

    I work on vehicles for a living, and I am really glad you put out videos like this for the general public. It makes my job of explaining what is going on with the client's car a lot easier if they have at least some idea of what is going on.
    I saw many Rovers with flooded charcoal canisters when I used to work at a dealership. A lot of times, though, it was the purge valve or the DMTL pump causing the issue.

    • @michaelxcx
      @michaelxcx Месяц назад +4

      ive been over filling every gas tank in every car ive ever owned including several newer model 2020+, ive over filled by 7L-12L every time until i physically see fuel in the fuel neck, ill even rock my car back and forth to squeeze in a extra 1-2L. Never had an issue.
      HOWEVER,
      when ever i do over fill I make sure to drive at least 100km or more before I park the car. that way there is not gas sitting on the air valve that can enter the PCV when the car is parked.

    • @ABC-so9ob
      @ABC-so9ob Месяц назад

      Were you doing the repairs on warranty?

    • @jeffreysanborn1005
      @jeffreysanborn1005 Месяц назад +1

      ​@@ABC-so9ob No. JLR would not pay the warranty claim as it is driver induced.

    • @jeffreysanborn1005
      @jeffreysanborn1005 Месяц назад +5

      ​@@michaelxcx​Unfortunately, both of our experiences are anecdotal. You have only your experience with your vehicle and I only have the vehicles that came into the shop with the issue.
      The point of his video was that it is a possibility and it is a possibility that I have seen happen more than once on separate vehicles.
      Most owner's manuals (most because I have not read them all) state not to overfill the tank.
      Over filling the tank does not guarantee it will flood the charcoal canister, but it creates a scenario that it becomes possible.

    • @michaelxcx
      @michaelxcx Месяц назад +1

      @@jeffreysanborn1005 if you read my post to the end you would understand. the issue is not over filling the tank, the issue is over filling it then parking it overfilled. the pressure builds and floods the charcoal canister, if you drive right away, at least 100km, the charcoal canister most likely will not get filled.

  • @Mal_Outdoors
    @Mal_Outdoors Месяц назад +63

    Excellent video. Been driving nearly 50 years but never heard this before. Thank you.

    • @jaroslavcharvat5171
      @jaroslavcharvat5171 Месяц назад +19

      Have you wondered WHY have you never heard of this in your fifty years experience? ;-)

    • @bigjohn5689
      @bigjohn5689 Месяц назад

      Because he is chatting out his backside

    • @geoffmerritt
      @geoffmerritt Месяц назад +10

      @@jaroslavcharvat5171 Because cars 50 years ago didn't have this system...

    • @MarianoLu
      @MarianoLu Месяц назад +1

      @@geoffmerrittscore! Darn those 80s where we lost all the HP exchanging them for active carbon filters.

    • @jstoneracing
      @jstoneracing Месяц назад +3

      Because its bullsh1t

  • @neilfoddering921
    @neilfoddering921 Месяц назад +13

    I passed my motorcycle test in 1966 and my car test in 1969, and I’ve just discovered your channel. I find your videos very interesting and valuable in refreshing my knowledge and updating my driving skills. Thank you for your clear and informative explanation of the issues you cover!

  • @VillagerCentral
    @VillagerCentral Месяц назад +34

    You’ve been like a second instructor to me and yesterday I passed with ZERO faults and a lot of that credit goes to you so thank you! Absolutely integral part of my driving journey!

    • @saednoor5766
      @saednoor5766 Месяц назад +1

      congrats. any tips you can give

    • @bencodykirk
      @bencodykirk Месяц назад +1

      Woo-hoo! 🎉Congrats!

    • @VillagerCentral
      @VillagerCentral Месяц назад +2

      @@saednoor5766 if you have your own car DON’T use it leading up to your test unless that’s the car you’re using on the test.
      Mirrors mirrors mirrors, just keep telling yourself that but don’t be silly and robotic about it just know that if you’re changing direction/ approaching a change of speed just always makes sure you look (even if you feel it’s not needed).
      Don’t be afraid to have a chat with your test invigilator during the process as this will put your nerves at ease MASSIVELY and also helps them warm to you and understand you.
      Last but not least, take your time. If you’re approaching a busy junction/roundabout just slowly approach it and only go when you’re absolutely sure. Better the odd minor for hesitation over getting a serious for something silly!
      Trust yourself and know it’s nowhere near as nerve racking as you think it’s going to be :)

  • @suel7089
    @suel7089 23 дня назад +1

    Been driving for over 50 years and continue to learn! I've always done this but will never again!!!

  • @PlasmaUwU
    @PlasmaUwU Месяц назад +7

    I managed to pass today with 6 minors 🔥 this channel has been so so helpful in supporting my learning you are a legend!

  • @rinkelrelps4370
    @rinkelrelps4370 Месяц назад +8

    Passed my test yesterday, only 2 minors! Used your videos on bits I didn't understand and you won't know how much i appreciated your videos. Thanks so much!

    • @bencodykirk
      @bencodykirk Месяц назад +1

      Woo-hoo! 🎉 Congrats!

    • @DGQ1Q2
      @DGQ1Q2 Месяц назад

      Only the beginning , congrats, now, drive few months, maybe 1 year, do Advancing driving, later anti skid. and of course do a circuit like "Skills days" and never stop to learn more..

    • @rinkelrelps4370
      @rinkelrelps4370 Месяц назад

      @DGQ1Q2 cheers mate

  • @urbanshadow777
    @urbanshadow777 Месяц назад +8

    Explains a lot of issues I was having with my old car. Fortunately/ unfortunately some idiot wote it off by reversing into it at speed. No one was in the car at the time but I have now been left with a megané that I hate for the last 7 months. Tomorrow I pick up my first ever brand new car and having this advice will save it from being damaged by something no one ever told me before

    • @rohan_3128
      @rohan_3128 Месяц назад

      Did you got something from insurance when someone destroyed your car

  • @189Blake
    @189Blake Месяц назад +151

    Besides, topping off doesn't make much sense. It is not like the extra drops of fuel are free, you are paying for them too. They are so small that you might expend more time pumping them in than burning them out. Well, not precisely, but you get the point.

    • @leexgx
      @leexgx Месяц назад +1

      You can filling the evap system and soaking the charcoal

    • @jfluffydog2110
      @jfluffydog2110 Месяц назад +13

      ​@@leexgxwhats that got to do with his comment ?

    • @stpeter7432
      @stpeter7432 Месяц назад +9

      Fair point - but who else has to get to an exact number of pounds? I feel I've failed if it clicks over to the next penny!

    • @kapilbusawah7169
      @kapilbusawah7169 Месяц назад

      ​@@stpeter7432 Argh!
      Every time I try to put exactly £20 I slow down and it just goes in increments of 2p right until £19.99.
      I know my fate is sealed however light I squeeze.

    • @feisaljauharitufail
      @feisaljauharitufail Месяц назад

      Yeah, but imagine if I had to wait for half an hour just to fill up my gas tank.

  • @ianmccarthy955
    @ianmccarthy955 Месяц назад +1

    Just leaving a comment to say I just passed my test today here in Ireland, your videos have been such a massive help!! I’ll definitely still be watching regardless 😉❤

  • @MissMcEwen
    @MissMcEwen Месяц назад +1

    Thank you for your incredibly helpful and detailed videos, Richard! They helped me - a bit of an anxious driver - to pass my test first time with 2 minors! Just got my first car and very much looking forward to getting out on the roads again.

  • @yagocamposbanos4390
    @yagocamposbanos4390 Месяц назад

    I passed my driving test today. I just want to say, thank you immensely for all your videos. It has helped me Massively. Thank you❤️

  • @PascalDickhoff
    @PascalDickhoff Месяц назад +10

    Even though I am not much of a car person, the complexity of engineering behind cars never ceases to amaze me. Such complex mechanisms for everything. 😮

  • @ellisnsutherland
    @ellisnsutherland Месяц назад +47

    Thank you, Richard. This is VERY helpful. I haven’t heard of this before, it’ll definitely save a potential bill!

    • @Lego6980
      @Lego6980 Месяц назад +1

      Ditto

    • @cecec6704
      @cecec6704 Месяц назад +1

      Same here

    • @briangentle5515
      @briangentle5515 Месяц назад +1

      I'll second that! Always ran a diesel until very recently and have been guilty of topping, not least because when you live on mainland Europe, as I do, you often cross country borders and fuel prices can vary greatly, so you want to profit as much as possible from the lower prices. Still, hopefully I haven't ruined the EVAP yet and will look out in future.

    • @easternangle9175
      @easternangle9175 Месяц назад +1

      That's why I smell petrol inside my old car. Well it will do until I've saved for my brand new car.

  • @thomass.7735
    @thomass.7735 Месяц назад +1

    Wanted to say I passed my practical two days ago with only 1 minor and this channel has been a great source of help from the start of my lessons all the way to my test massive thanks.

  • @mark9104
    @mark9104 Месяц назад +1

    great info, didn't realize that after driving for 26 years and considered myself a petrol head

  • @snoopy10411
    @snoopy10411 Месяц назад

    Thanks, been driving 25 years and I didn't know this. I only have diesels at the moment but have done this in the past with petrol cars.

  • @Born2007
    @Born2007 Месяц назад +224

    I just put £20 in every time. This way it only ever costs me £20 and I am insulated against the increase in fuel prices. 🎉

    • @Ziutu01
      @Ziutu01 Месяц назад +13

      4Head thinking :D

    • @ellisnsutherland
      @ellisnsutherland Месяц назад +30

      That’ll get you about a mile, these days. 😂

    • @Joe-lb8qn
      @Joe-lb8qn Месяц назад +98

      You're missing a trick, just put a tenner in instead and halve your fuel costs.

    • @eddthirty4065
      @eddthirty4065 Месяц назад +13

      What ! How are you insulted (insulated) from increase in fuel prices? When the price goes up you get less fuel for your £20.

    • @ryanmitcham5522
      @ryanmitcham5522 Месяц назад +98

      @@eddthirty4065 How are people so bad as spotting an obvious joke. I'm autistic and even I realised it's a joke.

  • @ajsiemers
    @ajsiemers Месяц назад +1

    I think you just solved the problem I had with the Volvo I got rid of today. Cost me two fuel pumps, many labor hours and too much frustration and stress. Nothing worked, now it seems it was the evap all along. Can’t say for sure that it wasn’t me that caused it. I’ve learned my lesson (the Volvo had more issues so I’m still glad to be rid of it

  • @IamNasman
    @IamNasman Месяц назад +11

    I have a diesel, I stop before it gets into the filler pipe. This is not to stop damaging anything, however if you overfill diesel, it may come out when you corner, its a hazard on the road as its very slippy, especially in wet weather. Bikes and motorbikes are vulnerable enough without slipping and sliding on your spilt diesel on corners, forecourts and junctions.

  • @WayneTulip-zm9gw
    @WayneTulip-zm9gw Месяц назад +12

    As soon as it cuts off I leave it at that, sorry about the confusion about the double white lines, you’re absolutely right, they’re not double white lines because the lines aren’t next to each other and one isn’t broken and one isn’t solid or both aren’t solid, my bad mate. 🙃

  • @dcasteaux9181
    @dcasteaux9181 Месяц назад +1

    Skoda Fabia, owned 16 years from new, 165,000 miles. I have always 'overfilled' it to the brim. Even pressed the release button inside the filler neck to get another 4 litres of diesel in. No issues.

  • @SidewinderMMA
    @SidewinderMMA Месяц назад

    I just passed thanks to your clips and shorts and videos on roundabouts. Just got a petrol car and thank you for this video

  • @andywolstenholme8733
    @andywolstenholme8733 Месяц назад

    Can't remember the last time I filled the tank to the top at today's prices and what is the point of carrying all that extra weight around unless going on a tour of Scotland for example, unlike EVs you can easily pop in a garage and top up. Keep up the good work as I have been driving over 40 years but still can learn something new from your channel to help keep my driving skills up to date. Thanks

    • @fubar12345
      @fubar12345 Месяц назад

      The weight is difference between a half and a full tank is relatively insignificant, petrol weighs less than water after all.
      Petrol station visits are the most significant source of benzene exposure for non smokers, so personally I'd rather limit my visits by filling it full each time.

  • @aarc2010
    @aarc2010 Месяц назад +1

    Clear explanation, as usual, thank you. I've been wondering for few years what's charcoal canister condition in my car, as sometimes the fuel tank makes bubbling noises. Seems to be fine as it refills easly and has no errors on the dash.

  • @killaquito
    @killaquito Месяц назад +1

    I can confirm! (With the repair bill part) I filled up my car, 2 clicks like I always do and the very same day it got written off 😂

  • @severstal2466
    @severstal2466 Месяц назад

    I was religiously doing this for around 4 months now since bought my first car . Car doesn't smell of petrol yet so i might been lucky so far , after watched this video i'll go untill it's on minimum and then fill up half a tank...good job it popped up in notifications !
    Keep up great work , much appreciated 👍🤝

  • @b4ph0m3tdk9
    @b4ph0m3tdk9 Месяц назад +1

    I learned something new about filling cars, thx.

  • @michaelkennedy8766
    @michaelkennedy8766 Месяц назад +23

    Been driving for over 50 years and always fill up to the brim, never had a problem!

    • @garlicnaan1
      @garlicnaan1 Месяц назад +3

      Same.
      The difference is 100miles for me if not brimming so I brim!!

  • @panther9450
    @panther9450 Месяц назад

    A nice explantion there Richard 😊
    Its been month since I passed my test, but I havent had my first ride yet so your videos are brilliant at keeping me entertained 🤗
    I wouldnt mind becoming an instructor myself, such a shame you've got to be 21 to apply 😢. See you again next Monday 😂

  • @TheMisterB2u
    @TheMisterB2u Месяц назад

    Very informative, didn't know about this charcoal filter and risks of overfilling.Very well explained and look forward to more videos, which I like as easy to follow and understand 👍.

  • @denes-fekeshazy
    @denes-fekeshazy Месяц назад +2

    I did not even know topping off was a thing. I guess I just trusted that the fuel pump nozzle works as it does for a reason.

  • @logancontracier7125
    @logancontracier7125 Месяц назад

    This was informative, definitely won’t top off again.

  • @aftabklm
    @aftabklm Месяц назад +2

    Very good and extremely informative video!

    • @AM-mv6ro
      @AM-mv6ro Месяц назад

      aftab where you from?!

  • @simonhodgetts6530
    @simonhodgetts6530 Месяц назад +1

    I used to fill up - when I had a company fuel card! Now I usually put around £40 quid in. Sometimes, if fuel is a good price, or if I have a long journey to do I’ll brim the tank - the one thing I don’t like doing is running on fumes - not good for the fuel system or lambda sensor (I had one fail once - not pleasant).

  • @jameslowry1
    @jameslowry1 Месяц назад

    YES I have to admit I used to do this but not anymore and I haven't done this in a long time

  • @pippipster6767
    @pippipster6767 Месяц назад +3

    Then WHY don’t all the car manufacturers have a small sign under fuel flap saying ‘warning: don’t overfill’ - then people probably wouldn’t do it.

  • @_dude..
    @_dude.. Месяц назад +12

    One of my cars is from 1988. None of this gubbins. Filler neck, tank and pump. Never smelled petrol from the tank, filler (unless it's open) or inside the cabin. Less is more. 😊

    • @davideyres955
      @davideyres955 Месяц назад

      Spot on. There was a one way valve to let air in so you don’t pull a vacuums. No air left the tank. My old polo from 1985 didn’t even have a valve in the filler neck so you could literally see the petrol in the top of the tube. He’s right about corrupting the evap chamber with fuel in a modern car.

  • @sc-mh3jj
    @sc-mh3jj Месяц назад +2

    never knew about this system, very interesting

  • @KacktuskackeEntrtnmt
    @KacktuskackeEntrtnmt Месяц назад

    That's the first time I'm hearing about this potential problem and I am going to check, whether my car is affected by this, because my active carbon filter is inside the engine bay at roughly the same height as the filler hole. I used to top of directly before long trips. There is a a vent button for the surge tank inside the filler hole and if I push it with the nozzle I am able to put about 10 additional liters in my tank. With this method I was able to put 63 liters in my 55 liter tank, which is a massive range increase.

  • @jimmycburfield5997
    @jimmycburfield5997 Месяц назад

    Thanks for this information!
    Who knew!!!
    Not me.
    There’s always a reason,

  • @MrSeanUK
    @MrSeanUK Месяц назад

    Helpful video!
    I bought a second hand Golf GTE PHEV and it wouldn't take fuel. Needed to change the filter. Guess it's more likely to be a problem on this car as the engine can go long periods with not being on at all or not running long enough to get hot enough.

  • @toninocars
    @toninocars Месяц назад +7

    And yes and no.
    Most people have been done that at least once or twice and nothing really happened.
    First click thought it’s perfectly fine, saves time, money and no risk for evap.

  • @ninaaniston1717
    @ninaaniston1717 Месяц назад

    Good advice worth taking 👍

  • @Julian-hx9yp
    @Julian-hx9yp Месяц назад

    Thanks Richard

  • @gregoryfenn1462
    @gregoryfenn1462 Месяц назад +2

    I like topping to get to round numbers. my petrol cost exactly £50.00 today!

    • @bencodykirk
      @bencodykirk Месяц назад

      Haha - I do that. Except for two things... a) it's in $ not £... and b) it's usually about $250 since I have a 130 litre tank 😂

  • @MikRoriz
    @MikRoriz Месяц назад +1

    How very smart and yet it explains very little… for example what would happen if you do fill up to the top and next you travel, for quite few miles? Well then your fuel tank would no longer be filled to the top, would it now?
    Then again if you fill to the top and do a couple of miles and park your car for a week this whole video is for you.
    For me it’s not my case sooooo, keep filling it up?!
    Nice video, it sure can help a lot of people.

  • @magravy1
    @magravy1 Месяц назад

    Thanks for this useful information I have not heard of this potential problem I won't be topping off again😇

  • @jackedrussell
    @jackedrussell Месяц назад +10

    Sometimes the first click of the pump is even worse than being 0.5 to 1L short of full. With my car, sometimes the first click is a good 10-15L short of full, but that is pretty rare and I have noticed it only happens at Shell garages for some reason. I do know with my car though, that when the fuel needle is just above the red part of the gauge, I can put 30L in.

    • @anniemitchell338
      @anniemitchell338 Месяц назад

      What do the clicks mean?

    • @jackedrussell
      @jackedrussell Месяц назад +1

      @@anniemitchell338 The pump clicks off when it thinks the fuel tank is full. It's correct most of the time, but sometimes it can be way off.

    • @KindredBrujah
      @KindredBrujah Месяц назад +1

      @@anniemitchell338 When the dispenser pump is surrounded by liquid (e.g. petrol), there's a little stopper valve which also fills with the liquid, which pushes shut and turns off the flow. In theory, this happens only when the tank is pretty close to full. In practice, it varies quite a bit depending on the angle of the nozzle, the flow rate of the petrol, the shape of the tank and how clean the valve tube is, along with possibly a number of other factors.
      Unless there's some reason you absolutely need your tank as full as you possibly can, though, just fill to the click and organise your journey to allow you to refuel again later if needed.

    • @BlokeOnAMotorbike
      @BlokeOnAMotorbike Месяц назад

      @@anniemitchell338 it's a mechanical valve in the pump that disengages the autofill lever and shuts off fuel flow when the tank level reaches the backflow.

    • @Asto508
      @Asto508 Месяц назад

      It can click off much earlier if the hose is bent too much. Make sure you always pull enough hose length and that it sits loosely.

  • @andreasbayer
    @andreasbayer Месяц назад +2

    I really like that my Diesel car doesn't need an evap system.
    Normally, I have a 45 l tank in my Škoda Fabia. With topping up you can get a little over 60 l in it. Done that especially in a time I made like 900-1000 km per week (2 times 400 km plus some extra) for months to not need to fuel up twice a week for little over half a tank. Normally a tank lasts around 800 km in winter and 900 km in summer and this gave me the missing ~10l/200 km to get back and forth to my internship.
    But like you said: never do this in a gas-car.

    • @joshsingh2557
      @joshsingh2557 Месяц назад

      Do you think I'll be finding to continue this on my diesel car. Such as a 2.0 to 3.0 diesel bmw

  • @mostelusive4313
    @mostelusive4313 Месяц назад

    Good info, will take it onboard 👌

  • @worawatli8952
    @worawatli8952 Месяц назад +3

    I always only top off at the start of long drive, if I am close to parking or not going somewhere hundred miles away, I'd never fill it up. Another main reason I avoided it is where I live, it is attendance only, so I have no control to how full the staff put in.
    I had times I got that nasty smell at home, so I did some research and stopped doing it after I know why it isn't good to top it up. Thank you for this video I can share with others.

  • @SQD_SquirrelMeister
    @SQD_SquirrelMeister 27 дней назад

    On the subject of “stop at first click“ - I always back off the pump trigger as soon as I hear the fuel bubbling up the filler pipe. You can hear the resonant note of the bubbling changing as it gets higher and higher. By slowing down the flow of fuel to a trickle, the bubbles subside back down the pipe, and I am fairly confident that I get a consistent fill level, when the pure liquid fuel hits the back pressure sensing tube on the tip of the fuel nozzle.

  • @abztube2731
    @abztube2731 Месяц назад +1

    watching this guys videos gives you 30 year+ experience without driving for that long

  • @rustyfmj2388
    @rustyfmj2388 Месяц назад +8

    My '74 Beetle never complains, gotta love old cars

    • @ScruffyMisguidedAndBlue
      @ScruffyMisguidedAndBlue Месяц назад +3

      I had one drive past me yesterday, it was very stinky, taking me back 40 years when my mum had one. I don't miss them.

    • @fer1306
      @fer1306 Месяц назад

      I have 3 in a barn, one is restored back to life other two not yet, but i am fed up with them because of the too much hassle and do not look at them, i do not miss them.

    • @ARockyRock
      @ARockyRock Месяц назад

      daily drove a 72 super for a solid year until enough things broke that I couldn't anymore, working on fixing it back up now. good fun.

  • @TeriWilde
    @TeriWilde Месяц назад +1

    I've been driving since 1983 and going to fuel up is a pet hate of mine so when the need arises, I ALWAYS brim it to the max every time, I can't stand putting in 10 or 20 quid at a time....... and in 41 years, I've never had a problem .

  • @Adam-pb8rt
    @Adam-pb8rt Месяц назад +16

    I was topping off my car at fuel stations to hit the minimum vend for loyalty points that some companies offer! Thanks for the advice, won't be doing that again 😅

    • @madmike987655
      @madmike987655 Месяц назад

      BP is quite a good loyalty scheme. Quite regularly they have 3x points or an extra 100 points after a 40L fill up. I find its good fuel and the rewards are better than Clubcard or Texaco

    • @gamesmaster1060
      @gamesmaster1060 Месяц назад

      ​​@@madmike987655Yeah but it's not worth if it's more expensive. It's a nice bonus if you pass it and you don't have cheaper places you go by, it's rare that the BP next to me is cheaper than the Morrisons or Tesco

    • @mactep1
      @mactep1 Месяц назад +4

      you could always use a jerrycan for that small extra.

    • @CarMake
      @CarMake Месяц назад +1

      Yeah naa this really doesn't happen. You can still round that number up without blowing up ur car lol

    • @philtucker1224
      @philtucker1224 Месяц назад +1

      Loyalty points work great, it forces people to buy stuff in their shops when they would normally go to Asda or Tescos where it’s all much cheaper 😂🤣

  • @JackKing12.
    @JackKing12. Месяц назад +77

    I fill half a tank. Saving 30kg in weight 😂

    • @Costa_del_Artlepool
      @Costa_del_Artlepool Месяц назад +36

      Me too. That's the problem with EVs - even when your range is down to 10 miles you're still carrying half a tonne of batteries.

    • @LAndrewsChannel
      @LAndrewsChannel Месяц назад +12

      @@Costa_del_Artlepool How is that a "problem" exactly?

    • @KindredBrujah
      @KindredBrujah Месяц назад +67

      @@LAndrewsChannel Cars are more efficient the lighter they are. Is that a serious question?

    • @Grafyte
      @Grafyte Месяц назад +7

      @@KindredBrujah You save 30kg in mass, but you have to visit the petrol station more often. Unless you go there all the time anyway or get it delivered to you, it costs fuel to go out of the way to the petrol station, and usually more than you'd save by driving with 30 fewer kgs

    • @AKIOTV
      @AKIOTV Месяц назад +19

      ​@@Grafytedepends where you are going/where you live. plenty of folks drive past a station anyway.

  • @BlokeOnAMotorbike
    @BlokeOnAMotorbike Месяц назад +2

    I track my petrol receipts, my bike has a 13 litre tank. I get 135mpg if I run it lean in 5th, down to 90 running pure urban. Trip counters do have a use! :)

    • @ColinFlowers
      @ColinFlowers Месяц назад

      Bloody hell thats awesome! What bike do you have? 125?

  • @awild10
    @awild10 Месяц назад

    Didnt know this so probably a good idea that I stop topping off my tank. Only started doing it because my PHEV came with such a small fuel tank I got a bit fed up with only having 300miles of range!

  • @willemm
    @willemm Месяц назад

    useful info and well explained

  • @loki1066
    @loki1066 Месяц назад

    Nice one ! My frikken royal Enfield wouldn't start because I got fuel in the evap.

  • @Buthos
    @Buthos Месяц назад +1

    I had an EVAP issue with my old car. Replaced charcoal/carbon canister, £15 off ebay and 30 seconds to replace all sorted

  • @Utopian_Turtletop-vn1iu
    @Utopian_Turtletop-vn1iu Месяц назад

    I've been topping to the brim for 40 years and never had a problem. I think I'll continue doing what I've always done.

  • @keith6400
    @keith6400 Месяц назад

    Years ago my mother had a new fuel tank fitted to her Ford Anglia the guys had not fully secured the rubber connection piece which linked tank to filler pipe. Once near the top the fuel started gushing into the boot. That took some sorting out.

  • @johnkeepin7527
    @johnkeepin7527 Месяц назад

    Wise advice. Years ago, when running diesel cars, I used to top-up fill them. Back then, quite a few pumps tended to deliver quite frothy fuel, and it would settle down several seconds after delivery, so one could top it up a bit more then. Later on, I had one with automatic closure of the refuelling pipe - no screw cap on that one, so topping up could not be used; that was a Honda made in 2013.
    Since then I use petrol, with screw on caps, and just guess how much it’s going to need, then slow down towards the time when the pump stops. The other thing the modern one I normally use does is to grab my card number for £99, then work out the real values, add another transaction and pays back the £99. I think it does the sums when the pump handle is put back on the machine, though, not just when it automatically shuts off (that’s an ASDA one).
    All that said, most modern cars have a built in system for calculating fuel values. I know the figures you get are more optimistic than working it out by the volume bought - but all meters have built in accuracy factors. It’s often the case that delivery pumps have Standard Temperature Adjustment (STA) as well, so what you get can depend on the weather if you measure the volume.

  • @silvialittlewolf
    @silvialittlewolf Месяц назад

    Oh wow! I had never heard of an EVAP system! Why aren't we being taught about this (except your video) and/or why aren't the car makers putting in some measures so that the EVAP system is better protected?
    I used to fill up my car as much as possible when fuel prices went down, so that it would last me as long as possible. I don't drive an ICE car anymore but if we eventually return to ICE cars, I will know better now, thanks to you. Much appreciate your explanation!

  • @paradisegate1931
    @paradisegate1931 Месяц назад

    thank you so much for such a important video i did tjis all the time 🙈

  • @april7_
    @april7_ Месяц назад +1

    A good old car tank is so tight it makes pressure to tank and even my summer car a 1990 Celica do not smell at all in garage. It is true what you say in many modern car today and you shout always stop for first click. Some cars even have a warning inside fillin lid!

  • @KnowArt
    @KnowArt Месяц назад +1

    from what year did they start doing this?

  • @oilburner225
    @oilburner225 Месяц назад

    Most of my journeys are around 250 miles done on a regular basis, I always top up before I depart. This decreases the amount of condensation that may occur in the tank and thus eliminates any fuel issues. My vehicle is a diesel and whilst this video concerns petrol vehicles I would still do the same if it were petrol, a full tank is only a full tank when it’s filled so once you pull away it obviously decreases. I certainly wouldn’t fill it up and leave the vehicle standing for days.

  • @moominpapa1980
    @moominpapa1980 Месяц назад +1

    I went into this video thinking it would be a load of bollocks. Pleasantly surprised. Cheers

  • @zitzong
    @zitzong Месяц назад +1

    Great advice sir Richard :) Thank you!

  • @drewosullivan6194
    @drewosullivan6194 Месяц назад +2

    Good to know! I filled my tank with petrol for the first time yesterday, I didn't notice any clicks 🤔😅

    • @QuercusQuest
      @QuercusQuest Месяц назад +2

      Well it did stop at one moment, did it Not?

    • @birdharris1192
      @birdharris1192 Месяц назад +3

      the click is from the petrol nozzle not the car itself.
      Basically the trigger you pull to start pumping fuel has the other end of it held in place with a sear that's released when there's backpressure on a hole in the tip of the fuel nozzle. You get back pressure on that hole when the hole start filling with petrol (i.e. when the tip of the nozzle starts to submerge under fuel), at which point the sear releases, which'll sound like a click along with a slight release of pressure from the trigger.
      ruclips.net/video/fT2KhJ8W-Kg/видео.html is a great video on it in more detail (Where he bought and cut in half a petrol pump nozzle to show the mechanism).

  • @robgray1999
    @robgray1999 Месяц назад +2

    Hi, could you do a video on premium fuels like Shell V Power etc? Interested to know your thoughts. Cheers

  • @InfiniteColorsMusic
    @InfiniteColorsMusic Месяц назад +3

    The user manual of my first car (Fiat 500 MY2007) stated that you should top up twice after the first click of the gun to make sure that you filled the tank completely, but not any more than that. That's where my habit comes from: I've always stopped at the third click. Just checked my current car's manual, it only says "The fuel tank is full when the nozzle clicks. Don't overfill." I honestly don't think the risk is very high, but I'll probably stop at the first click from now on 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @supergeekjay
      @supergeekjay Месяц назад +2

      I don't think 2007 cars HAD to have EVAP systems in them, they were optional. Modern ones MUST have them fitted. EDIT: EVAP systems have been around since 1998, but as I said back then they weren't legally required.

    • @InfiniteColorsMusic
      @InfiniteColorsMusic Месяц назад +2

      ​@@supergeekjay actually I just checked and that text is still there on Fiat 500 MY2024's user manual as well, so maybe it's just designed like that 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @dazednconfused31337
      @dazednconfused31337 Месяц назад +2

      From a 2014 Leon manual: "If the automatic filler nozzle is operated correctly, it will switch itself off as soon as the fuel tank is “full”. Do not try to put in more fuel after the nozzle cuts out, as this will fill
      the expansion chamber in the fuel tank".

  • @carmadme
    @carmadme Месяц назад

    Very much depends on the car I would say
    two of my cars I get 100-200 more miles out of a tank when I brim it very much worth it when I'm travelling to the other end of the country etc

  • @LaughingOrange
    @LaughingOrange Месяц назад +2

    I drive electric, and all my past cars have been diesel. Why did I watch the full video?

  • @bjthedjdutchdude1992
    @bjthedjdutchdude1992 Месяц назад +1

    I fill it to top click. I go from to F to E. I registrate the traveled distance. If it gets under 500km, i get it checked out

  • @daviemac9925
    @daviemac9925 Месяц назад

    I was told many years ago that it is dangerous to have petrol sloshing about in the pipe and not in the tank, I've always pulled the nozzle out when it stops off at the pump.

  • @andrewsmyth6027
    @andrewsmyth6027 Месяц назад

    I was going on a long journey once. And calculated I needed another 2 litres in my tank . So I taped an empty coke bottle with the bottom cut off and upside down so the diesel would drain into the tank to the outside of my car and filled it to the top. I kept an eye on it in my wing mirror when it was empty I stuck it in the boot. Got all the to magaluff with out refuelling . Job done.

  • @Turboman_64
    @Turboman_64 Месяц назад

    I always let it click 2 more times, as per the car manual. So far never had a problem with it and never felt the need to put 0,2 liters more in it or something.

  • @rufusgreenleaf2466
    @rufusgreenleaf2466 Месяц назад

    I remember when i had the older Suzuki and the pump used to click out when i had like still quarter of a tank to go. So then i adapted to the 3 click method. My newer car tends to be quite full after just the first click but my instinct always goes for at least 2 clicks. After this video i might just reduce squeezing when i think it's getting full then after the first click done.
    I know it's probably better to not fill the tank full but i like the car to last more than 5 weeks so i can have a month everynow and then where it doesn't go on my credit bill. I'm sure there are ways to adapt and i don't think i'm killing my car, i just might keep a record of how many litres i put in until it clicks off then maybe reduce it by a litre next time.

  • @davidhowe6905
    @davidhowe6905 Месяц назад

    I don't 'top off' but still found this explanation fascinating.

  • @ispy3836
    @ispy3836 Месяц назад

    Thanks for that👍

  • @NineEyeRon
    @NineEyeRon Месяц назад +2

    I never knew you could fill past the first click, I always thought that was the limit.

    • @bencodykirk
      @bencodykirk Месяц назад

      Well, according to this video... it should be the limit! 😂

  • @bbol745
    @bbol745 Месяц назад

    I live in the United States so I will be using US terminology. I drive a minivan and I fill up till the first click then I put just a little more until the price reaches a nice round number. So if it stops at $71.37 I will stop at $71.40 or $71.45. I don’t top it off until it’s literally leaking out the fill hole. I know people that do, they are stubborn and will probably keep doing it. My van holds 20 gallons and I usually end up putting in between 15 and 17 gallons by the time I fill up. It’s not good to let it get really low either.

  • @marigoldbeam5475
    @marigoldbeam5475 18 дней назад

    Thank you.

  • @Xenon777_
    @Xenon777_ Месяц назад +19

    Could you do a video comparing the fuel economy when using E5, E10, premium, supermarket fuel, etc with this car?

    • @cianmoore
      @cianmoore Месяц назад +4

      This ☝️would love an in depth video from Richard I’ve been filling my car up with Shell vpower after switching from supermarket fuel and after a few weeks have noticed better MPG

    • @contactjd
      @contactjd Месяц назад

      Good idea but mpg will be variable with learners grinding the gears

    • @user-to7ds6sc3p
      @user-to7ds6sc3p Месяц назад

      ​@@contactjd1. Grinding gears is the least of concerns for fuel economy.
      2. Grinding gears happens when shifting to fast or without clutch, both unlikely to be done by learners.

    • @Artix13
      @Artix13 Месяц назад

      Ashley Neal has done a test: ruclips.net/video/5u0pTVmz9q0/видео.htmlsi=5m4YJARIUC-MA-Q6

    • @user-to7ds6sc3p
      @user-to7ds6sc3p Месяц назад +2

      ​​@@cianmooredid that increased in mpg translate into actual savings? Over here in Germany the premium Fuel is 40% more expensive, than the "cheap" E10 while only providing a fuel usage reduction of arroud 1.5%, according to ADAC, our version of the AAA. E10, or higher if available, even reduce CO2 emissions slighty, so there is really no reason to use premium fuels in a daily driver if it isnt a high performamce sport car that can't run on the cheap ones.

  • @IanDocherty335
    @IanDocherty335 Месяц назад +1

    I’ve ‘topped off’ every car I’ve had, every time I’ve filled them up for 50 years and I’ve NEVER had a single issue!

  • @Danceup-dh6kn
    @Danceup-dh6kn Месяц назад

    Great video. One day could you do a vid on octane ratings?

    • @ConquerDriving
      @ConquerDriving  Месяц назад

      Thank you for your suggestion. I may do.

  • @iamaduckquack
    @iamaduckquack Месяц назад

    Years ago I topped off my diesel and as soon as I got in and turned on the ignition the bells and whistle started ringing. I though't I'd royally roger'd it but as it turns out it was really bad timinng as the bells and whistles was related to some kind of pump in an unrelated system in the car!

  • @casscristi253
    @casscristi253 Месяц назад

    Thank you

  • @user-ul2rh7tq2h
    @user-ul2rh7tq2h Месяц назад

    Can you do a video on
    How to know how much oil you should put in your car when it’s below minimum?

  • @jn7300
    @jn7300 Месяц назад

    Please make a video on first time buyer. What things should be looked for and how to do the basic maintenance. My friend who bought a car recently having issue with battery and so on. The car stopped few times after turning off. The dealer is not responding. Also she is spending lots of money on technician. Please talk about the document checking and legal procedures. I would like to know as much as possible. Many thanks