26:10 I think we are supposed to think about what was on the page. Rhaenyra said after ripping it out now you’ll remember it forever. The page was Nymaria fleeing from the Valyrian’s. She’s telling Rhaenyra to take her family and run.
I definitely picked up on that but even if Rhaenyra left with her family she still wouldn't have been safe while Aegon was King as long as Aegon was under Otto's influence.
Season 1 Aegon is a drunk with no claims. Season 4 Aegon is a king that usurped his throne, faught battles became disfigured, won a war and fed his sister to a dragon. These are not the same guys and neither would their motivations be the same.
Yeah, I really like how characters are changing after the time skips, and even changing off-screen. Character development can be implied when the audience is invested. Perhaps it's possible to be too educated in writing formats? When rules are broken the storytelling can be refreshing.
Alicent earning her power seems pretty obvious. She traded feet for secrets of Larys, she has a lot of dirt on everyone. And she's probably still on relatively good terms with Viserys because her sponge baths are the best.
I think she gained her power because Viserys was too weak to push back against her. We pretty much see this happen in episode 5 with Rhaenyra's marriage proposal for Jace and Haelena.
Daemon killing his first wife, cutting people he considered as “criminals” into pieces, killing an innocent man to cover up Laenor’s escape, treating his second wife like trash that she chose to commit suicide during childbirth complication. Fans: “So hot. Truly an internet boyfriend.” Daemon choking Rhaenyra. Fans: “What? So Daemon is evil all along.”
Come on. Daemon is a very unevenly written character. Matt Smith's charisma and Daemon's more sympathetic actions are what people have attached themselves to. Some people look past the evil things, and some look past the tender, endearing things. Please don't act like "fans" are a hypocritical monolith. Yes, Daemon is an overall *bad* *person.* And so is every adult on the show. They're all basically bad people. That's the show's fault, not the viewers.
@@nicholsonfile Jon Snow, Luke, Maester Aemon, Samwell Tarly, Helaena Targaryen. These are good people though so not everyone in this universe is evil.
strongly agree that there needs to be some kind of human intervention to hatch dragons. if they could hatch themselves, i feel like there’s no reason they wouldn’t be the apex predators everywhere, eating people and making human settlement difficult, because any livestock farming and any large gathering of ppl into a town will look like a big dragon happy meal. i like the idea that the tales of valyrian genetic tinkering with dragons and wyrms is partially based on them using magic/selective breeding to create dragons from fire wyrms. it would explain where the dragons came from if they can’t reproduce on their own in the wild. i always read nagas bones as the fossil of some gigantic prehistoric whale ribs or something, and i think the myths of westerosi dragons may be based on ancient dragon riders visiting from asshai (which i believe may also be the roots of house dayne.) it makes sense to me that the asshai’i had already created dragons in the east far before the targaryens created some.
I thought the whole point with Dany's dragon eggs is that they were petrified - they had turned to stone because they were so old (maybe even thousands of years..) - and that is why she needed blood magic to make them hatch. Death had to pay for life because there was none in the stone eggs. I mean it all ties into the AA prophecy. Presumably in the HOD, the dragon eggs are just normal one's - that have life in them so no blood magic is needed. Other conditions might be necessary but not death to pay for life.
Big fan of your channel. Also I would like to suggest an idea for future videos. Do a video for each character and what do they want , they're motivations and who they serve
@@iliaponomarev1624 he's power is plot Armour. If he did this in the book he would have been captured for leverage against Alicent or killed. He committed open treason in front of daemon on dragonstone with with six dragon riders on the island.
@@kevinvest9693 Well, actually seven dragonriders. But I'm not sure Daemon, Rhaenys, Rhaenyra, Jace, Luke, Joff and Baela win an all-in fight against Aegon, Aemond and Helaena (and maybe Daeron). Numbers favor Blacks, but Greens have more dragon tonnage.
I think the eye for an eye thing was more “Do you think you can just steal my brothers crown and fly about the realm with no consequence?” The consequence being now he has bumped into aemond while the peace has been breached (via the attempted “crown theft”) and now will have to settle his debt that is owed from before…. The eye
It was once believed the different stages of a fetus’s development mirrored the progression of its evolutionary ancestors. (Recapitulation Theory/Biogenetic Law) I’m wondering if the scaly deformed state of miscarried Targaryens suggests they are either direct descendants of dragons, or at least share a common ancestor.
I think GRRM is closer to von Baer's laws of embryology (mainly: the stages embryos pass through during ontogeny never represent adult forms of other animals, they represent embryonic stages of other animals). But there's smth going on. ^^ On the other hand the idea of "humanesque blastocysts" comes to mind - the research started in 1950s and now it appears it's possible to create part-human animals or part-animal humans. In 2007 the HFEA (Human Embryology and Fertilisation Authority) published its report titled "Hybrids and Chimeras: A report on the findings of the consultation" - the report states that the HFEA found no reason to prohibit the development of blastocysts using human cellular or genetic material as long as the research is necessary, ethical, and adheres to a strict code of practice, but now it's prohibited to grow such embryos to birth. GRRM might take an idea of the procedure between different species (since the 1950s) and create part-human combinations in his books. So it's hmm "artificial/unnatural" common ancestor ^^
It’s fantasy, the prevailing theory is they have actual dragon blood and possibly copulated with dragons at some point or the children created them with dragons blood. It’s not deep or human related
@Preston Jacobs in reference to 1:34:46 to the Starks and winter and Targs and long summers. The theories I’ve heard is that the long summers are at the height of Targ rulership and abundance of dragons, add to that rhyllor and red priests and long winters bring about the others, NK, Starks etc. Ofcourse the children are watching snd manipulating both from behind the scenes. But I think there’s certainly a correlation and legs to this theory
(Spoilers Andor) I thought Andor immediately getting wrongfully sent to prison was a super strong point of social commentary. Like, it so aptly sends the message that if you believe you can just bury your head in the sand, choose short-term personal gain, & go find some relatively quiet corner of the Empire to retire to & pretend that you aren’t living under heinous oppression & the absence of democracy/civil rights then you are deluding yourself. That’s the thing about a GLOBAL EMPIRE (keeping in mind that George Lucas’ original vision of “the Empire” was literally based on the US empire, a world-encircling hegemonic military-covert-economic superpower with the capacity to dominate entire continents from SE Asia to South/Latin America to the Caribbean to the Middle East through it’s sheer overwhelming military/technological advantage over the developing countries who it conquers or through very nasty counterintelligence/state-terrorism means foments coups/installs puppet dictators, & the Rebels were based on guerrilla groups like specifically the Vietcong who defensively resisted US occupation of their homelands by whatever rag-tag means are available to such underdogs. The message is that, when faced with a global empire, running away in order to try to just live the normal consumerist life we’ve been sold by the very same ruling class who does this horrible imperialism abroad & increasingly brings the techniques of imperial oppression home domestically as they move towards fascism/authoritarianism to uphold systems that are diametrically against the interests of the overwhelming majority of working class Americans, isn’t a viable option. Because the empire still exists, the civil rights will continue to be chipped away- they will not just stop or leave you alone. It affects everyone, & even if you think you can tolerate it, without serious militant resistance (of a sort that the ruling class aligned liberals/centrists who enabled it in the first place refuse to offer- represented historically, for example, by the Weimar government who thought they could just humor & appease Hitler & the Nazis, right up until they essentially anointed his ascent (or in America today, neoliberal Democrats who are literally donating our campaign contributions to the most far-right psycho republicans like they learned nothing from Hillary getting beat by Trump), & represented in the show by moderate “free trade” ass Senators who are content to play along & legitimize the Empire, as long as they’re able to continue holding seats of influence & drinking their space-Champaign (as capitalists, & therefore servants to the ruling class, these kinds of liberal/conservative technocrats have very often been quick to shift their support to fascists & the far-right any time they need to use them as a cudgel of state violence- a means of brutally cracking down any time labor gets too organized & class conscious & able to start demanding decent living conditions, social democracy or a more complete form of justice & class equality, & democratic self-governance- the bane of the ruling class)… But fascists don’t just hand the reins of power back when the dirty deeds are done; very quickly, anyone from the Jews to black people to liberal moderates who don’t believe in depraved fascist ideas, republicans, etc., can end up against the wall, just like the socialists & labor organizers who they wanted purged. No. In reality, it will get worse for loved ones, neighbors, friends, colleagues, it will mean suffering for anyone who isn’t one of the few billionaires so powerful & wealthy that they can just personally insulate themselves from the totalitarianism they impose on the rest of us. In reality, it doesn’t matter whether you’re an actual “rebel,” a socialist or anarchist revolutionary, a human rights activist, a journalist, whistleblower, or if you’re just willing to go-along-to-get-along. Imperialism & fascism (& right-wing, “might makes right,” anti-intellectual, bigoted, misanthropic, Thanatos driven reactionism very generally, from conservatism to “national conservatism” i.e. fascism, theocracy, Nazism, monarchism, etc., move inexorably towards a world of death camps, mass incarceration for victimless non-crimes, genocides, the absence of democracy everywhere, people getting locked up or killed for just exercising what should be basic minimal rights or demanding a wage that they can survive on, or for no reason at all like Andor. Human life is incredibly cheap in a fascist society. So far from being a pointless or weird turn of events, I’d argue Andor getting picked up for absolutely nothing after retiring to what appeared to be Planet Miami & shipped off to a prison planet to do slave labor is one of the most incisive & important points the show has made thus far: there’s no running or hiding from a global empire. You. Must. Fight. If you aren’t supporting anti-fascist partisan efforts to liberate society from this unambiguous evil, then not only are you tacitly enabling it to thrive & expand its control, but you’re also ensuring that your life will be short, miserable, & surrounded in the death, cruelty, & suffering. The only way out is through- is to organize together & struggle for revolution- to struggle for a free & just society where this kind of inhuman, monstrous oppression & violence would be recognized as such instead of being lionized & treated as some kind of honorable norm.
I too was shocked by comments online saying “not enough action” and “it’s too slow” even a reviewer that did game of thrones content complained at the “lack of action” Re future pacing, the season 2 end at kings landing and season 3 at gods eye or fleeing KL sounds about right. It takes place over 3 years I think so maybe a year per season could also work?
Couldn't they just call them Mörkboll instead? Does the same thing but without the Portuguese adoption. We had a similar thing in Britain with Robertson's who used a Golliwog as their logo. I grew up with it. Eventually despite the arguments about 'tradition', it was rightly jettisoned for being racist.
My generation uses "chokladboll" (chocolate ball), but there's if you're over 40 (ish) you've grown up using n-boll (the N-word ball). Some older people have changed, but some haven't. But I would say that everyone knows they shouldn't use it, but some choose to anyway and some just do it out of habit.
Yeah, I was just trying to think about why N-Boll was adopted in the first place. Its root is Latin via Portuguese. Why would you need to use that word when there are alternatives in the Swedish language? Suspect that it was always a bit of a reference like the South Park Chef song about his salty chocolate balls. Linda definitely knows what she is doing here. It reminds me of an incident that occurred in the EPL between Liverpool's Luis Suarez and Manchester United's Patrice Evra. Suarez (Uruguayan) used a variant of the N word at Evra (French Senegalese) and knew precisely what he was doing. The funniest thing was the Liverpool players sticking with their teammate and wearing t-shirts with Suarez's face on in the following game's warm up. They try to forget that embarrassing moment.
True, although I would say that our version of the N-word was probably more analogous to the word Negro, originally. It probably wasn't as offensive when they were named, especially since there where practically no black people here to be offended by them.
Disney is in the Tourism business, not the movie business. The movies are advertising for the parks, hotels and cruises. If you follow the money, the parks is where their money mostly comes from. This makes it so the Star Wars parks and Hotels are a success even when Andor is not making HotD streaming numbers.
Falling as a catalyst for psychic powers is in keeping with GRRMs other writing. He believes that psychic powers are all forms of teke and that gravity interferes with teke. In the stories set in space this comes up when people's teke based powers get strong. Falling is microgravity. We use drop towers for short term microgravity testing on Earth and even the vomit comet is essentially just freefall inside of a tube.
tbh most of the green fans i know are like lannister fans. they don't necessarily think they're in the right, they just find them interesting as characters.
Did you say earlier that it was aemond and Jaec that caught each other’s eyes at driftmark during the funeral but never built up the courage to speak, but it should have been Luc? Because I remember the interaction being between aemond and luc?!?!
Rhaenyra wasn't bad, but she was kinda irresponsible, which isn't good for a female monarch in a patriarchy with a prophecy on top of the crown and doubts about her succession. And it did feel like she got more focused during her time with Daemon.
It's weird that she and Alicent are primarily and sometime exclusively motivated by their children. I feel like people read selfishness and irreverence into Rhaenyra's character which is only really true for Rhaenyra prior to the 10 year gap. After that, she's mostly incompetent. Did they ever have her say why she got with Harwyn for 10 years? That is easily her biggest error, and it happens off screen.
Idk that the Norse Hodor is entirely unrelated to ASOIAF. He’s a blind god, son of Odin One Eye, associated with winter, darkness and warriors. He’s tricked into killing his brother with a spear and mistletoe. The story details are very different, but there’s some pretty blatant shared themes.
if season 3 ends with rhaenyra fleeing kings landing that would put the gods eye around s3 ep8/9, basically the last big thing that season besides the dragonpit. the only downside to it is that then rhaenyra dies like episode 2 of s4 which is a little weird but i think structuring the seasons around who controls kings landing makes the most thematic and story sense
If they could pull off killing all the main cast by the beginning of season 4 and ending with all new characters. Id be very VERY surprised if they could pull it off
The relationships with Harwin and Jeoffrey were consentual and accepted by all parties. This was a 4-way relationship and everybody inside was OK with it.
Preston, you hit the nail on the head with Rings of Power: it isn't terrible, it's just not Tolkien. Maybe people that hate Tolkien can say that's a good thing. I think it's wrong to take Tolkien's story and make it not Tolkien.
Were those legendary dragons even a thing? Or maybe they were, but all the legends are completely wrong? Except, you know, that Qartheen one that has dragons hatched out of an EEC seedship.
56:00 Preston, I disagree on the humanization of orcs. Certainly not in PJ films, but in the source material Tolkien has established stuff like the Gorbag/Shagrath discussion in ROTK, Ugluk/Grishnackh in TTT, and, most prominently, the whole motivation behind the orcs' army march to Erebor in The Hobbit, which was righteous anger at regicide. Tolkien certainly could have done more with the orcs, but he seeded enough information to make a case for "humanization".
I think the Visenya thing is mostly a kind of easter egg in the first episode; to fans it comes across as "Visenya is a name she's liked for a long time".
Hey, Preston. I have a (not so) small question about Catelyn. So the last we saw her, she is now Lady Stoneheart, right? And she’s out for violence. Now she keeps Robb’s crown with her. How did she get that crown? From what I remember, after the Freys were done desecrating Robb’s corpse and Grey Wind’s head (and probably buried them, dumped them to the river or fed them to the worms), Ryman Frey took Robb’s crown and he gave it to his prostitute aka the “queen o’ whores”. Now Jaime slapped him real hard for insubordination and told him to take the prostitute with him but not the crown so if the crown was with Jaime before Ryman left to the forest and got croaked by Catelyn and her goons, how did Catelyn retrieve that crown? Is the prostitute Catelyn’s agent? Will the crown become relevant in the future if Robb’s will about making Jon the next King in the North turn out to be true? Also, it could be interesting if Jon and Catelyn somehow meet again, considering both of them are fire zombies who got murdered by their own men and came back to life thanks to the lord of light. Cat could end up having a change of heart after knowing about Jon being a Stark-Targaryen child, not Ned’s bastard and it could lead to a big confusion about the Northern succession because suddenly a potential next King in the North popped out of nowhere and Cat is now witnessing him. Also, we never know what happened to Robb’s head. Maybe he’s eaten by worms and rotten around the twins just like everyone else or maybe…just maybe, when Joffrey ordered Walder Frey to send him Robb’s head to terrorize Sansa in his wedding, maybe Frey already sent him but Robb’s head is now in the possession of Qyburn. Could Qyburn do some experiment with Robb’s head to make him bigger and send that big skull to Dorne? The one that they pretend it belongs to Gregor Clegane, or the skull in Dorne is actually Gregor Clegane but Robb’s head is now sewn with the body of Gregor in the new identity of Ser Robert Strong. You know, Robb…Robert, Stark…Strong. I would be very honored if you read this comment and end up making videos about it.
There are a few possible ways for the crown to get into LSH's hands. Ryman could have ignored Jaime's order and took the crown anyway, then was killed by LSH. Tom O' Sevens could have stole the crown and passed it on to LSH. Or, as you say, the sex worker was an agent of LSH. But, no, I do not see LSH crowning Jon with that crown - he is too far away and I don't even think Robb named him as heir. Robb's head is a mystery as Joffrey did want it, but the order was likely ignored to get it. I imagine it was thrown in a mass grave (as much as it would be fun to be on Robert Strong).
@@PrestonJacobstheSweetrobin Catelyn doesn’t have to crown Jon with that crown but I’m looking forward to see their reunion because like I said, both of them are fire zombies who used to get murdered by their own men. Catelyn changed from compassionate to a violent vengeful person seeking revenge. Jon after resurrection could become more cynical and cruel as well. Seeing them interacting with each other, fighting about Jon’s bastard status, his true parentage with Rhaegar and Lyanna and how both Jon and Catelyn might end up realizing that they are not so different would be very fascinating. And as you said, George loves to subvert our expectations. What if Lady Stoneheart was a foreshadowing of what Jon will become? Like George trained us to think that Jon and Dany will be these chosen one (or two) heroes who will save the planet from the Others ever since book one and the Faegon will be a bad guy who steal that glory from them. What if in the end, Faegon become the only one who maintain his sanity and is actually a great ruler while Dany become the mad queen while zombie Jon become an evil tyrant that could surpass Tywin Lannister (just like zombie Catelyn is now a psychopath killer). Faegon being Azor Ahai could be poetic because it shows us that you don’t have to have a magic Targaryen lineage like Jon or Dany to save the world. You can be a normal person, or a Blackfyre or anyone with a good heart and competency and that’s enough. Jon and Dany could represent aristocracy (like kings and queens and dictators). Faegon could represent meritocracy (like elected presidents). Also, I would love to see Robb’s head belongs to Robert Strong. Arya wants to remove Gregor off the list, right? Now witness Gregor with her dead brother’s head and see if she will have a gut to kill him.
So, as a Swede who's been involved in the Chocolate Ball discourse and read a fair bit of history on it (the confectionary, the name, and the word itself), here's a rant: There's really no feasible position that the confectionary 'just sounds' like that word. Rather, the people whinging about it no longer being commonly refered to by that name hold that the Swedish version of the N-word isn't derogatory, and/or that the name is a crucial part of Swedish culture (these people are usually Swedish White Nationalists; not everyone who uses the old name is, some are simply old people who didnt get the memo). The idea would be that the word is closer in tone to the US usage of "n*gro" than the actual n-word. In reality though, not only does that fail as an argument because "n*gro" also is at best a really dubious term but the Swedish term also de facto has been used as a slur the same way the n-word has.
I still think there's more chance of the ROP wizard being a blue than being gandalf. When it comes down to it, the only evidence he's gandalf is that he's met a hobbit and he said a fan-service line that gandalf once said (based on his ability to smell which you'd assume all the wizards could do if one could) Besides that, literally everything else points to him being a Blue. He's headed to Rhun (which gandalf never did, he arrives more or less in the same year Sauron makes the one ring which follows the blue's 2nd version of their story, they've already teased him with a different staff and they're only keeping it vague to maintain the mystery of him maybe being gandalf. But most importantly, the Blue wizard's stories are wide open to interpretation so they can basically make him an Amazon original character without pissing anybody off..
"Fan service line." Not sure if Hollywood writers see it that way. Pretty sure they think they're geniuses and that line would make all the sweaty nerds orgasmic. Cause they thought sweaty nerds would like the show. I wouldn't give Hollywood writers that much credit. But I do hope you're right.
I'm sad to hear you found RoP dull. I found it to be the opposite. I'd really love a scripted review of it from you knowing that you would be honest about it and actually see it before reviewing it (unlike some people)...
I like that the writers made Viserys' naming and determination to keep Rhaenyra as heir was out of guilt for how he treated his wife in her final moments.
Is that in the first couple episodes? I feel like he *had* to do it because his son was dead and his brother was removed from power. Maybe he is supposed to have *two* reasons?
I don't think you're picking up on Rhaenyra and Viserys' relationship. the prophecy and patriarchy and destiny are all intertwine with their personal connection. He fucks up his parenting several times and every time, the way he reestablishes their bond is by affirming her as his heir. She fucks up as a daughter and he restores their bond by reminding her of the prophecy. So being the heir is core to her relationship to her father and the prophecy for her is about her father. If she doesn't become the queen then she and her father didn't have a relationship based on anything real. So she's calling on him to save their relationship and he climbs that throne for their relationship. so yeah it's about patriarchy but also fatherhood. She also doesn't go with Criston because of the prophecy, not just because of the responsibility but because that responsibility is what her connection to her father is based on.
Whether Amazon had to make copy-right-related changes to ROP is largely irrelevant and a red herring. NOBODY forced them to make a show centred around events they didn't have the copyright to, they could have done ANYTHING else. No one forced them to do this, very few people even asked them to do this. Everyone would have been fine with a story set in the third or fourth age that didn't touch on canon at all. Instead they made this problem for themselves, and it's not an excuse to blame that on them not having the rights to it, that's the problem, not the excuse.
I find it a little biased that Rhaenyra got 2 birthing scenes and Alicent got none. If they’re supposed to be each others counterpart, there should have been a scene of Alicent giving birth to Aegon or Helaena or Aemond.
Preston did have a point with his RoP observation that the show attempted to portray the orcs as something other than mindlessly evil pawns. In those middle episodes as they introduced Adar, seemed like they took baby steps in that direction. But they never truly followed through. Instead of showing Adar as addressing the warband of orcs, imagine if there were orc families there, migrating from a famine down south or east. And he's blaming Sauran for putting the orcs in this predicament. That could have been powerful- give the orcish race some depth and a degree of sympathy. Heck, you could have even used that as a reason for Halbrand being on that stupid ship. He and some loyalists had to take flight when Adar overthrew his reign. Then when he comes back in the van of a Numenorian army, Adar recognizes him and is utterly baffled- what turn of events led to this?? Could have been interesting, even attempting to follow their lame storyline with a few improvements.
Ok the ideas are flowing here: Halbrand's ship is wrecked and he's on the flotsam with the surviving loyalists, when he encounters Galadrial. They rescue her but she's barely alive, only conscious for a few moments as they haul her out of water. Sauran recognizes her and hatches a plan. He kills the rest of his crew before she wakes up. She's appreciative (if her face can pull that off) but confused as Halbrand is the only person on the wreckage. Either he tells her there was another storm and they all drowned, or that she was confused and he was the only one. She accepts his story, but something about it always bothers her and this little seed of distrust is planted in her mind. Halbrand only tells her his ship was a trading galley from the land of Umber (not sure what he'd say his role on the ship was). They're rescued by Numenorians and in their audience before the Regent, Galadrial reveals her quest to hunt Sauran. Mind you, Halbrand didn't know this before- we have to assume that Galadrail's search for Sauran was to the north as they showed, not south, so she didn't know he was there and he didn't know she was hunting him. We also have to figure that Sauran's power is diminished. He doesn't have the all consuming power of the fell races that he wielded in the books (this show is so off-cannon that yeah, I'm going with this). Its here that Halbrand come's up with a plan- he tells Galadrial that he's heard rumors of Sauran holding sway over a land bordering Umber with his orc armies, and that he's planning on launching an attack. Perhaps she's at first doubtful; she's got this feeling she shouldn't trust him, but Sauran is her obsession. The Numenorians aren't fully convinced either, and decide to use a Palantir to attempt to view the region. But let's say that only the aged King can use it, who's bedridden but not as infirm as the show depicted. The use of the Palantir is a great strain on him, and he needs Halbrand there to guide his vision as he doesn't really know the region or what he's looking for. He's having difficulty and unexpectedly takes Halbrand's hand and places it on the Palantir to directly assist him, thinking it harmless as long as he's the main operator, but its then that Halbrand's nature is revealed to the King, but being connected through the device Halbrand/Sauran gets control of the King much in the same way Sauruman did with Theoden. The King confirms what Halbrand said, that there's orc armies gathering in the south. Perhaps the King make a recovery afterward, is more hale and hearty, and the Numenorian's opinion of Halbrand goes up considerably. Not only does their King favor him, but the entire court is now disposed to Halbrand. They don't suspect him of having any healing powers-more that the use of the Palantir seemed to awaken something in the King. For Galadrial's part, her trust in Halbrand has gone up a notch and she puts aside her earlier misgivings. Perhaps Elendil is the only person in court that for some reason has never trusted Halbrand or his story- maybe something about the wreckage of the ship doesn't jive with Halbrand's story of it being a trading galley (the sea is always right!). With this knowledge, the Numenorian's assemble a fleet to sail to the southlands put an end to Sauran once and for all.
more ideas: After seeing their King make a recovery, the Regent is so pleased that she makes a comment in court that Halbrand's presence has been "a gift". Later its Elendil that chides Halbrand as "my Lord of gifts", and asks him some probing questions about what he truly knows about the south. Maybe Elendil being their admiral has some secret contacts in the south, and they don't say anything about Sauran being there. Could also be that Galadrial at first doesn't buy what the King and Halbrand said about the Palantir. I'm pretty sure in the lore that Palantir's are Numenorian devices, not sure if the elves had them as well, so she's unfamiliar with the device. She sneaks into the Palantir chamber to attempt to see for herself. She at first struggles to control it, but being powerful herself she eventually manages and attempts to view the southlands as the King and Halbrand did. But she has the same problem as the King, she's not sure where she should be looking. Maybe she sees images of orc armies mustering, but what she really wants to see is Sauran. She doesn't know what he looks like though, and one of the last images she catches is Adar, but only for a moment and from a distance. Its then that she's captured and imprisoned for using the Palantir. Halbrand, still acting like her friend, visits her and questions what she sees. She confirms the orc armies but isn't sure about seeing Sauran. The show could have also gone in the direction that the usage of the Palantir opened Sauran's eyes to a new way of controlling people. Maybe he got a vibe of the magics involved with the device, and thinks of a way of supercharging it by forging the rings. I think in the lore around Palantirs, the devices were made look only in certain directions, except for a central one that could look anywhere. Maybe that served as the analog to Sauran's plan with forging the rings.
@@catlord760 According to Wikipedia the palantirs were made by Noldor in Valinor. I don't think it's anywhere explained how they came into possession of the lords of Andunie (in Numenor). It's something of a Middle - earth mystery.
Well, the guy murdered for Laenor to escape was a Driftmark guard apparently. And I think we can all agree that Driftmark guards were to be executed anyway for doing extremely shitty job at guarding.
I do really like the idea that dragon reproduction is linked to human reproduction, and there are a million pieces of textual evidence to support this. At the same time, F&B is so sparse on details for when the dragons are born. I always got the impression that there were loads of hatchlings running around until Cannibal canniballed. For instance, isn't it mentioned that when Maegor was young, he refused a bunch of different dragons? ("Though a dozen hatchlings had been born amidst the fires of Dragonstone in the later years of Aegon’s reign, and were offered to the prince, he refused them all.") Admittedly, I don't think we know exactly when this takes place, but which dragons were those??? (also like the idea that Viserys II was swapped out for a random Lyseni kid, cuz elsewise its hard to explain why Naerys' pregnancies didn't hatch dragons - maybe poisoned dragon eggs???)
@@madelynmorgan2999 Yeah its very fitting if the best Targaryen king actually didn't have an illustrious bloodline. (To make him convincingly Viserys-y, the Rogares gave him an actual education in statecraft?) Would also add even more depth to the Blackfyre Rebellions, since Daemon would actually have Targaryen blood through his mother Daena, whereas Daeron secretly wouldn't.
I like Viserys II being a fake, except for one thing. We are quite obviously hinted that Rhaenyra was the real victor on the Dance. Alicent and Aegon's line died out and Rhaenyra's won. To have it randomly die out would be strange.
@@psevdhome well it doesn't exactly die out if Viserys is fake. It survives in the Blackfyres, and in Elaena Targaryen's descendants (the Penroses, Plumms and Longwaters). Besides, history does not remember blood. It remembers names or whatever.
@@Mj_Jetson Yeah that's the other side of it. Sort of both sides lose. And then random descendants of Aegon III become a cadett branch of Targaryens. And cause another civil war. I thought the lesson was that if Greens hadn't started the war to usurp the throne, then they would have lived and eventually married into Rhaenyra's line anyway, and their descendants would live on as a Targaryen dynasty. Now all true born members of their line are dead and survive only through bastards.
I don't think Starwars really IS doing that well in any way compared to how it COULD or SHOULD be doing. Starwars should be selling out cinemas across the planet whenever a new movie comes out, not floundering in China, and more than that, the toys may be doing ok for some of their releases, but the amount rotting on shelves is really high. I remember that when the prequels were coming out, I had to go back to the store upwards of 10 times to find literally anything besides maybe JarJar binks toys there because they were constantly selling out of products.
Was Visary’s a bad king ? Or is that how the maesters wrote it to make him bad and to blame for the civil war to cover up for Otto and the maesters who really caused it
I think to a modern, real world sense of morality he was a good king (as much as such a thing can exist) because he didn't kill many people and was basically kind to others. To a Westerosi sense of morality he was a bad king because he was not ruthless enough to secure his power and that of his descendants.
@@SuperSephirott all true but you must remember this is written by the maesters years after the events and they conveniently make the greens or the maesters look good as much as possible. The two biggest things he did wrong was remarrying and having more kids and not advocating the throne for Rhyneara when he was near death to make the succession go more smoothly
What's the maesters' reason for trying to make the Greens look good? The bloodline died out, why defend it? Why did none of the latter Black monarchs care that in terms of history their line comes from a usurper? Why didn't they decree that Rhaenyra be recorded as the rightful monarch and Aegon the Elder as the usurper? Fact is, none of it makes a lick of sense ever since George wrote the Jaehaera murder.
@@jewsco Why would Aegon 3, Viserys 2, or any descendants allow this? They can read what the maesters are writing, why not put those maesters to death and "fix" the record? They have both the ability and motive to do so, as there is no actual need to keep up relations with a dead bloodline. If Aegon and Jaehaera had kids it might make sense, but she died quickly so what's the point of placating ghosts?
I think there is some meaning to the Rob and Lynna names. When it comes down to it, A Song for Lya is about Lya rejecting Rob, which is what Robert and Lynna's whole relationship in ASOIF boils down to as well. Just replace Rhaegar with a parasitic psychic cult. Rob and Lynna will never be together in any continuity.
@@PrestonJacobstheSweetrobin What do you think Robert's reaction would have been if she offered to marry both him and Rahegar? The ultimate point is that she chose the Greeshka and it's idea of heaven (which is also literal death) over her perfectly satisfactory human life with a real person. She invited him with her, but her desire for something more was worth more to her than actual love.
@@Jotari I'm not sure if I really see it. In A Song For Lya, Robb and Lyanna are telepaths deeply in love. Lyanna's love of the Greeshka though surpasses Robb, which hurts him and confuses. Lyanna and Robert are not in love. Lyanna is an idea in Robert's mind and Lyanna has no such feelings for him. Not to mention, its Robb Stark who is named for Robb, not Robert Baratheon.
Aegon and Jahaera marriage isn't a happy ending anyway because Aegon's heirs die anyway and Viserys' line ascends the throne. I thought George meant to imply with the death of Jahaera that Alicent's usurpation through Aegon the Elder was seen as illegitimate and their heirs had to die, and the line of Rhaenyra and Daemon that everybody opposed as being the true line of succession. Remember that history still made Rhaenyra's Queenship illegitimate even though it was her children that succeeded Aegon the Elder. Quite schizofrenic if you ask me. This may be complicated by the fact that many believe that Viserys wasn't Viserys but a Lyseni.Though why would the Rogare faction need to marry themselves to Viserys if Viserys was already a Lyseni of their household? They made themselves visible and open to attack, when a Lyseni Viserys could have been guided to advance their interests from the shadows, without exposing their family. Viserys is a tragic character, who is tasked with rebuilding the Targaryens after mismanagement by Daeron and Baelor and the inaction of his brother Aegon. He then dies after being king for only one year, which hightens the tragedy even more. Edit: I gotta drop in this joke real quick House Rogaine.
@@degotas American blues and soul… brought to the US by immigrants who didn’t have much say in the matter if you get my meaning Punk was more of a rebellion to the industry and to rock/pop which then became a recognised sound due to the bands leading the charge and a lot of the time with the garage rock sound (which was mostly USA) A lot of them consisted of a poor/mediocre guitarist and drummer who got their friends who didn’t know how to do music to play bass and to sing Funnily enough I’m pretty sure now you mention them the ramones were one such band who got a bass player that couldn’t play bass, there’s a few bands like that seen as founders of punk A lot of early punk bands the bassist is practically playing identical notes & rhythm to the guitarist as the were following what to do!
@@degotas also you know the Ramones were playing a couple local shows around their hometown when sex pistols started, so I don’t think local teens in north London were listening to them. No internet and kids saved up for LPs and traded them in for different LPs. they were (pistols) influenced by other local London bands with a similar sound when they started
Let's just start a Joffery Velaryon fan group. Surely he is the one character with the potential for speaking lines they can't break or ruin before his extremely tragic death.
I don’t think I can deal with another season that’s as all over the place as this one. It was Ok. Some of it was great. Some of it was utter GOT season 7/season 8 tripe. And the way they’ve kinda fucked with Daemon, not on board.
lol mk. Feel free to mention the dozens of other show that are more worth while of your time or are you claiming that you are getting rid of TV. All of you pedantic morons bitching about shows not being perfect will never not be hilarious.
@@jewsco lol how is he a grey character? He's done nothing good for anyone bar himself and the writers/directors even said him picking up Viserys's crown was only because Viserys would side with Rhaenyra. He's completely evil with no redeeming qualities.
They don’t have to sell to little kids. They have to sell to millennials and likely Gen Z as we will likely be the largest generations seeing as how everybody is having less kids right now. We will forever live in nostalgia land they will be selling millennials reboots of 90s shit until the day our trans human parts fizzle out and we become the bag of bones we were meant to be… dead in the dirt.
@@alanpennie8013 i've not either, but i;ve read lotr, preston seems to think that bad guys fighting is new to rop, when sauron and saruman are in conflict in lotr, and pretty much every time an orc doesn't fight the heroes they fight each other
I really think they should have made the Strongs a black family with black hair and having all of Rhaenerya's kids have black hair. I think the Strong boys not even believing they're Velaryons takes away from the mysteries.
I wouldn’t say I’m a green supporter but there a lot more reasons to support them. At least going be the show. Rhaenyra has taken her role as heir for granted. She is not at court and seems to just be waiting for her father to die. It seems Jace is committed to be a good king but is he really learning anything at Dragonstone? Meanwhile Aliscent is basically running the kingdom and probably has a legitimate reason to believe that her children are in danger if her son doesn’t take the throne.
read the book again lol, it never happened. only Mushroom says anything about that and all he says is that Mysaria suggested it, not that Rhaenyra actually did it.
Lol it seems it's you who should read the book again. Gyldayn says bluntly that it's not something Mushroom came up with and it was widely known fact. He just dismisses that without any reason. Literally. No justification for dismissing it. Here you have the exact quote: "That such a tale was told in the wine sinks and pot shops of King’s Landing cannot be doubted, but it may be that its provenance was later, when King Aegon II was seeking justification for the cruelty of his own acts." It's the most blatant example of Gyldayn picking and choosing historical facts on his whims and him being a biased narrator. He literally have nothing except "it may be" without any proof or let's be honest - any logic. When was Aegon seeking this justification? He wasn't rulling after the war. He was assassinated in it. Are we supposed to believe, that within the short window between Borros arriving in KL and Muddy Mess he somehow managed to gaslight half a million people into believing that something happened when it clearly didn't happened and everyone who was in King's Landing at a time can tell it didn't happened? It's not like this had happened behind closed doors in the palace, so townfolk can't tell if this had happened. The story is clear. They were supposed to be allowed to be raped by *any man* who can afford the price. Everyone in KL would know it's a hogwash if that was fake news. And here we are told that there is no doubt it was known thing in King's Landing
Goodness gracious Preston. Until you’re going to have on someone who will push back against all your straw men representations of Republican arguments…. Please for crying out loud, just leave the political comparisons out of it.
The George coming up with “reasons and excuses” in his head to defend his friend is a really odd take Could it not be if he does defend them that it’s because he actually knows the person, their morals, their character, their intent? As opposed to people online who are making damming assumptions as to a persons character based on a few pieces of information without ful context or knowledge of the person, their intent etc Could be poor attempts at jokes, things out of context Without knowing a persons heart and mind and judging them on odds and sods bits of evidence that may or may not be in context or a joke rather than judging them on their actions, reasons and character seems rash Without knowing a lot of things going on when something deemed potentially “”racist” is said or posted and reasons behind what’s said or posted doesn’t sit well with me I have a friend in his 50s now, white, loads of old tattoos, played in a ska/punky band, shaved head, people assumed he was maybe racist due to appearance, even more so when he was posting products with funny names and pictures from Far Eastern countries But had these people known anything about him, he was in Japan with his long term Japanese wife, posting photos of things he has previously told his close friends about last time he was out there, which was before everyone posted everything online I’ve posted pictures of “cock soup” packets from the shop before doesn’t mean I’m for or against men
I’ve just looked into the Linda thing…. Is the uproar really because she commented on the fact corlys is black in the show when he isn’t in the source material?? Something I’ve heard many RUclips commentators mention, the fact it makes it even more hard for the realm to believe the strong boys aren’t bastards and there was no real reason for him to be black I mean other than that point I think corlys and his whole family did an amazing job this season and have no issue with it, but I can understand someone feeling the need to comment if they’ve built their whole career on song of ice and fire world and the lore associated with it, and the authors description and appearance of the people from the area of Valyria I’m sure if a spin off was based around yi-ti and one if the main families were ginger haired pale skinned as Celtic as possible where as everyone else was East Asian appearance then Linda would probably have commented on that The racist thing is flung around so recklessly these days
@@Goodywloss2010 it’s not just the N-ball thing with Corlys. It’s a long, long pattern of behavior. I've seen her tweets - she gets angry and defensive and then says stupid things, sometimes calling people various slurs in order to "own" them. One of her most shocking threads had her calling people "ret*rds" over and over and over. This isn't a teenager or a person in their early twenties. She's in her forties. From a business perspective, she is just a liability.
@@PrestonJacobstheSweetrobin was unaware of the childish behaviour, all I saw upon research was corlys and about on of the Quaarth lot (the one daeny locks in the safe I assume whose name Ill butcher but attempt zo-an-doxis or something) As well as roughly understand a tweet of a product with a racial slur as a name. If she complains about character changes for reasons she doesn’t agree with I don’t think she deserves to be branded racist However if she continually acts like a child and shows herself up then she deserves to be called out If she complains about black actors for any other reason than it being off from the source and lore then again she should be called out I don’t think George is wrong for defending her regarding the 2 shows character changes but if he defends other poor behaviour that has no justification then that’s not good It’s so common for peoples intentions to be thrown aside an them branded as the most horrific things like racist unjustly, I just hope it isn’t hsppening in our community, but behaviour proven to be unjustified and out of order I agree should be criticised
@@PrestonJacobstheSweetrobin I agree with most of this btw, but calling people the R***RD slur isn’t racial, all the uproar I saw when I looked into this after hearing you speak was that she is racist. If she has called people racial slurs in arguments there’s no defence, if she made comments regarding casting decisions and called people non racial slurs then she isn’t racist just a pathetic woman child
Gotta love it when people who obviously don’t watch anime get defensive when their favorite think is compared to anime. Like do people just think anime is just all DragonBall and Pokémon? That all anime villains are just Team Rocket incompetent or Freeza levels of evil for evils sake? Do people not realize that anime is a very large art movement with a plethora of media that caters to all demographics, not just kids?
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26:10 I think we are supposed to think about what was on the page. Rhaenyra said after ripping it out now you’ll remember it forever. The page was Nymaria fleeing from the Valyrian’s. She’s telling Rhaenyra to take her family and run.
Wow i hadnt considered that, but that checks out
I definitely picked up on that but even if Rhaenyra left with her family she still wouldn't have been safe while Aegon was King as long as Aegon was under Otto's influence.
Season 1 Aegon is a drunk with no claims. Season 4 Aegon is a king that usurped his throne, faught battles became disfigured, won a war and fed his sister to a dragon. These are not the same guys and neither would their motivations be the same.
Yeah, I really like how characters are changing after the time skips, and even changing off-screen. Character development can be implied when the audience is invested.
Perhaps it's possible to be too educated in writing formats? When rules are broken the storytelling can be refreshing.
Alicent earning her power seems pretty obvious. She traded feet for secrets of Larys, she has a lot of dirt on everyone. And she's probably still on relatively good terms with Viserys because her sponge baths are the best.
I think she gained her power because Viserys was too weak to push back against her. We pretty much see this happen in episode 5 with Rhaenyra's marriage proposal for Jace and Haelena.
Daemon killing his first wife, cutting people he considered as “criminals” into pieces, killing an innocent man to cover up Laenor’s escape, treating his second wife like trash that she chose to commit suicide during childbirth complication.
Fans: “So hot. Truly an internet boyfriend.”
Daemon choking Rhaenyra.
Fans: “What? So Daemon is evil all along.”
Well, maybe chocking is just their normal foreplay...
I hate what they did to Daemon
Come on. Daemon is a very unevenly written character. Matt Smith's charisma and Daemon's more sympathetic actions are what people have attached themselves to. Some people look past the evil things, and some look past the tender, endearing things. Please don't act like "fans" are a hypocritical monolith.
Yes, Daemon is an overall *bad* *person.* And so is every adult on the show. They're all basically bad people. That's the show's fault, not the viewers.
@@nicholsonfile don't protect Daemon with " everyone's a bad person ". That's a load of crap. And such a fan boy defence.
@@nicholsonfile Jon Snow, Luke, Maester Aemon, Samwell Tarly, Helaena Targaryen. These are good people though so not everyone in this universe is evil.
1:20:37 Preston looking longingly into the distance and saying "We have bloodlines" is the most wholesome sinister thing!
strongly agree that there needs to be some kind of human intervention to hatch dragons. if they could hatch themselves, i feel like there’s no reason they wouldn’t be the apex predators everywhere, eating people and making human settlement difficult, because any livestock farming and any large gathering of ppl into a town will look like a big dragon happy meal. i like the idea that the tales of valyrian genetic tinkering with dragons and wyrms is partially based on them using magic/selective breeding to create dragons from fire wyrms. it would explain where the dragons came from if they can’t reproduce on their own in the wild. i always read nagas bones as the fossil of some gigantic prehistoric whale ribs or something, and i think the myths of westerosi dragons may be based on ancient dragon riders visiting from asshai (which i believe may also be the roots of house dayne.) it makes sense to me that the asshai’i had already created dragons in the east far before the targaryens created some.
Since you brought it up! I would love a video on your thoughts on the wire, main characters, hits and misses as well as comparable tv shows.
I wouldn't be mad if you mirrored GRRMs style and we just got a bunch of Alayne chapters. They're my fave
I thought the whole point with Dany's dragon eggs is that they were petrified - they had turned to stone because they were so old (maybe even thousands of years..) - and that is why she needed blood magic to make them hatch. Death had to pay for life because there was none in the stone eggs. I mean it all ties into the AA prophecy.
Presumably in the HOD, the dragon eggs are just normal one's - that have life in them so no blood magic is needed. Other conditions might be necessary but not death to pay for life.
Hey Preston do you have a PoV in mind for the next chapter? (Or is the plan to think about that only once Areo II is published?)
I think JonCon or Arianne
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May I suggest Ghost ??
Big fan of your channel. Also I would like to suggest an idea for future videos. Do a video for each character and what do they want , they're motivations and who they serve
How Is Otto alive? He went to dragonstone twice to face off with daemon? How is he not charcoal?
Plot armour.
He's a greenseer like Jojen Reed. He knows the day he dies.
This is why he is so reckless, he just knows it's not his time yet.
@@iliaponomarev1624 he's power is plot Armour. If he did this in the book he would have been captured for leverage against Alicent or killed. He committed open treason in front of daemon on dragonstone with with six dragon riders on the island.
@@kevinvest9693 Well, actually seven dragonriders.
But I'm not sure Daemon, Rhaenys, Rhaenyra, Jace, Luke, Joff and Baela win an all-in fight against Aegon, Aemond and Helaena (and maybe Daeron). Numbers favor Blacks, but Greens have more dragon tonnage.
@@iliaponomarev1624 there was no dragon riders on the green side when Otto shows up at the time. And luke was gone at the time.
those streams are the best part of my week. Thanks for this seasons coverage Preston and Carmine!
I think the eye for an eye thing was more
“Do you think you can just steal my brothers crown and fly about the realm with no consequence?”
The consequence being now he has bumped into aemond while the peace has been breached (via the attempted “crown theft”) and now will have to settle his debt that is owed from before…. The eye
It was once believed the different stages of a fetus’s development mirrored the progression of its evolutionary ancestors. (Recapitulation Theory/Biogenetic Law)
I’m wondering if the scaly deformed state of miscarried Targaryens suggests they are either direct descendants of dragons, or at least share a common ancestor.
I think GRRM is closer to von Baer's laws of embryology (mainly: the stages embryos pass through during ontogeny never represent adult forms of other animals, they represent embryonic stages of other animals). But there's smth going on. ^^
On the other hand the idea of "humanesque blastocysts" comes to mind - the research started in 1950s and now it appears it's possible to create part-human animals or part-animal humans.
In 2007 the HFEA (Human Embryology and Fertilisation Authority) published its report titled "Hybrids and Chimeras: A report on the findings of the consultation" - the report states that the HFEA found no reason to prohibit the development of blastocysts using human cellular or genetic material as long as the research is necessary, ethical, and adheres to a strict code of practice, but now it's prohibited to grow such embryos to birth.
GRRM might take an idea of the procedure between different species (since the 1950s) and create part-human combinations in his books. So it's hmm "artificial/unnatural" common ancestor ^^
It’s fantasy, the prevailing theory is they have actual dragon blood and possibly copulated with dragons at some point or the children created them with dragons blood. It’s not deep or human related
@@elliottwilliams9221 "copulated with dragons"? 🤦♂️
that's a really cool idea. So every Targaryen perhaps goes through a similar stage in utero?
@@elliottwilliams9221 this is written by GRRM. You’re putting too much emphasis on the genre and not the writer
Watched the 1st episode of The Peripheral, very impressed.
An hour and a half in and Preston's only talked about other shows or HOTD book spoilers. Nice.
@Preston Jacobs in reference to 1:34:46 to the Starks and winter and Targs and long summers. The theories I’ve heard is that the long summers are at the height of Targ rulership and abundance of dragons, add to that rhyllor and red priests and long winters bring about the others, NK, Starks etc. Ofcourse the children are watching snd manipulating both from behind the scenes. But I think there’s certainly a correlation and legs to this theory
Bryan Cogman and Ryan Condal are amazingly similar names.
James Gunn is the new Joss Whedon.
(Spoilers Andor) I thought Andor immediately getting wrongfully sent to prison was a super strong point of social commentary.
Like, it so aptly sends the message that if you believe you can just bury your head in the sand, choose short-term personal gain, & go find some relatively quiet corner of the Empire to retire to & pretend that you aren’t living under heinous oppression & the absence of democracy/civil rights then you are deluding yourself. That’s the thing about a GLOBAL EMPIRE (keeping in mind that George Lucas’ original vision of “the Empire” was literally based on the US empire, a world-encircling hegemonic military-covert-economic superpower with the capacity to dominate entire continents from SE Asia to South/Latin America to the Caribbean to the Middle East through it’s sheer overwhelming military/technological advantage over the developing countries who it conquers or through very nasty counterintelligence/state-terrorism means foments coups/installs puppet dictators, & the Rebels were based on guerrilla groups like specifically the Vietcong who defensively resisted US occupation of their homelands by whatever rag-tag means are available to such underdogs.
The message is that, when faced with a global empire, running away in order to try to just live the normal consumerist life we’ve been sold by the very same ruling class who does this horrible imperialism abroad & increasingly brings the techniques of imperial oppression home domestically as they move towards fascism/authoritarianism to uphold systems that are diametrically against the interests of the overwhelming majority of working class Americans, isn’t a viable option. Because the empire still exists, the civil rights will continue to be chipped away- they will not just stop or leave you alone. It affects everyone, & even if you think you can tolerate it, without serious militant resistance (of a sort that the ruling class aligned liberals/centrists who enabled it in the first place refuse to offer- represented historically, for example, by the Weimar government who thought they could just humor & appease Hitler & the Nazis, right up until they essentially anointed his ascent (or in America today, neoliberal Democrats who are literally donating our campaign contributions to the most far-right psycho republicans like they learned nothing from Hillary getting beat by Trump), & represented in the show by moderate “free trade” ass Senators who are content to play along & legitimize the Empire, as long as they’re able to continue holding seats of influence & drinking their space-Champaign (as capitalists, & therefore servants to the ruling class, these kinds of liberal/conservative technocrats have very often been quick to shift their support to fascists & the far-right any time they need to use them as a cudgel of state violence- a means of brutally cracking down any time labor gets too organized & class conscious & able to start demanding decent living conditions, social democracy or a more complete form of justice & class equality, & democratic self-governance- the bane of the ruling class)… But fascists don’t just hand the reins of power back when the dirty deeds are done; very quickly, anyone from the Jews to black people to liberal moderates who don’t believe in depraved fascist ideas, republicans, etc., can end up against the wall, just like the socialists & labor organizers who they wanted purged.
No. In reality, it will get worse for loved ones, neighbors, friends, colleagues, it will mean suffering for anyone who isn’t one of the few billionaires so powerful & wealthy that they can just personally insulate themselves from the totalitarianism they impose on the rest of us. In reality, it doesn’t matter whether you’re an actual “rebel,” a socialist or anarchist revolutionary, a human rights activist, a journalist, whistleblower, or if you’re just willing to go-along-to-get-along. Imperialism & fascism (& right-wing, “might makes right,” anti-intellectual, bigoted, misanthropic, Thanatos driven reactionism very generally, from conservatism to “national conservatism” i.e. fascism, theocracy, Nazism, monarchism, etc., move inexorably towards a world of death camps, mass incarceration for victimless non-crimes, genocides, the absence of democracy everywhere, people getting locked up or killed for just exercising what should be basic minimal rights or demanding a wage that they can survive on, or for no reason at all like Andor. Human life is incredibly cheap in a fascist society.
So far from being a pointless or weird turn of events, I’d argue Andor getting picked up for absolutely nothing after retiring to what appeared to be Planet Miami & shipped off to a prison planet to do slave labor is one of the most incisive & important points the show has made thus far: there’s no running or hiding from a global empire. You. Must. Fight. If you aren’t supporting anti-fascist partisan efforts to liberate society from this unambiguous evil, then not only are you tacitly enabling it to thrive & expand its control, but you’re also ensuring that your life will be short, miserable, & surrounded in the death, cruelty, & suffering. The only way out is through- is to organize together & struggle for revolution- to struggle for a free & just society where this kind of inhuman, monstrous oppression & violence would be recognized as such instead of being lionized & treated as some kind of honorable norm.
Dude really wrote an essay in a RUclips sub- comment
I too was shocked by comments online saying “not enough action” and “it’s too slow” even a reviewer that did game of thrones content complained at the “lack of action”
Re future pacing, the season 2 end at kings landing and season 3 at gods eye or fleeing KL sounds about right.
It takes place over 3 years I think so maybe a year per season could also work?
Preston, the pastry is literally named N-balls. It doesn’t sound like it, it is it. People still argue about it here.
Fair enough. She should have definitely known better than to use the word.
Couldn't they just call them Mörkboll instead? Does the same thing but without the Portuguese adoption.
We had a similar thing in Britain with Robertson's who used a Golliwog as their logo. I grew up with it. Eventually despite the arguments about 'tradition', it was rightly jettisoned for being racist.
My generation uses "chokladboll" (chocolate ball), but there's if you're over 40 (ish) you've grown up using n-boll (the N-word ball). Some older people have changed, but some haven't. But I would say that everyone knows they shouldn't use it, but some choose to anyway and some just do it out of habit.
Yeah, I was just trying to think about why N-Boll was adopted in the first place. Its root is Latin via Portuguese. Why would you need to use that word when there are alternatives in the Swedish language? Suspect that it was always a bit of a reference like the South Park Chef song about his salty chocolate balls.
Linda definitely knows what she is doing here. It reminds me of an incident that occurred in the EPL between Liverpool's Luis Suarez and Manchester United's Patrice Evra. Suarez (Uruguayan) used a variant of the N word at Evra (French Senegalese) and knew precisely what he was doing.
The funniest thing was the Liverpool players sticking with their teammate and wearing t-shirts with Suarez's face on in the following game's warm up. They try to forget that embarrassing moment.
True, although I would say that our version of the N-word was probably more analogous to the word Negro, originally. It probably wasn't as offensive when they were named, especially since there where practically no black people here to be offended by them.
Disney is in the Tourism business, not the movie business. The movies are advertising for the parks, hotels and cruises. If you follow the money, the parks is where their money mostly comes from. This makes it so the Star Wars parks and Hotels are a success even when Andor is not making HotD streaming numbers.
Falling as a catalyst for psychic powers is in keeping with GRRMs other writing. He believes that psychic powers are all forms of teke and that gravity interferes with teke. In the stories set in space this comes up when people's teke based powers get strong. Falling is microgravity. We use drop towers for short term microgravity testing on Earth and even the vomit comet is essentially just freefall inside of a tube.
tbh most of the green fans i know are like lannister fans. they don't necessarily think they're in the right, they just find them interesting as characters.
Did you say earlier that it was aemond and Jaec that caught each other’s eyes at driftmark during the funeral but never built up the courage to speak, but it should have been Luc? Because I remember the interaction being between aemond and luc?!?!
Preston are you going to Movember this year?
What if winds turns into winds and dream and we get the final novel called a time for wolves like first planned? Not that any are happening of course
Rhaenyra wasn't bad, but she was kinda irresponsible, which isn't good for a female monarch in a patriarchy with a prophecy on top of the crown and doubts about her succession.
And it did feel like she got more focused during her time with Daemon.
It's weird that she and Alicent are primarily and sometime exclusively motivated by their children. I feel like people read selfishness and irreverence into Rhaenyra's character which is only really true for Rhaenyra prior to the 10 year gap. After that, she's mostly incompetent. Did they ever have her say why she got with Harwyn for 10 years? That is easily her biggest error, and it happens off screen.
Idk that the Norse Hodor is entirely unrelated to ASOIAF. He’s a blind god, son of Odin One Eye, associated with winter, darkness and warriors. He’s tricked into killing his brother with a spear and mistletoe.
The story details are very different, but there’s some pretty blatant shared themes.
if season 3 ends with rhaenyra fleeing kings landing that would put the gods eye around s3 ep8/9, basically the last big thing that season besides the dragonpit.
the only downside to it is that then rhaenyra dies like episode 2 of s4 which is a little weird but i think structuring the seasons around who controls kings landing makes the most thematic and story sense
If they could pull off killing all the main cast by the beginning of season 4 and ending with all new characters. Id be very VERY surprised if they could pull it off
The relationships with Harwin and Jeoffrey were consentual and accepted by all parties. This was a 4-way relationship and everybody inside was OK with it.
Preston, you hit the nail on the head with Rings of Power: it isn't terrible, it's just not Tolkien.
Maybe people that hate Tolkien can say that's a good thing. I think it's wrong to take Tolkien's story and make it not Tolkien.
Were those legendary dragons even a thing?
Or maybe they were, but all the legends are completely wrong? Except, you know, that Qartheen one that has dragons hatched out of an EEC seedship.
Glad to see Ser Hyle get some love. He rules.
56:00 Preston, I disagree on the humanization of orcs. Certainly not in PJ films, but in the source material Tolkien has established stuff like the Gorbag/Shagrath discussion in ROTK, Ugluk/Grishnackh in TTT, and, most prominently, the whole motivation behind the orcs' army march to Erebor in The Hobbit, which was righteous anger at regicide. Tolkien certainly could have done more with the orcs, but he seeded enough information to make a case for "humanization".
On Annatar, the show actually referenced the name, when he said "consider it a gift", as Annatar means "Lord of Gifts".
"not that the brits didnt have punk"
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The lovable redhead wildling that really likes Brienne. He would make her feel like a queen. That is the guy for her.
Edit: Tormund is his name.
I think the Visenya thing is mostly a kind of easter egg in the first episode; to fans it comes across as "Visenya is a name she's liked for a long time".
Hey, Preston. I have a (not so) small question about Catelyn.
So the last we saw her, she is now Lady Stoneheart, right? And she’s out for violence. Now she keeps Robb’s crown with her.
How did she get that crown? From what I remember, after the Freys were done desecrating Robb’s corpse and Grey Wind’s head (and probably buried them, dumped them to the river or fed them to the worms), Ryman Frey took Robb’s crown and he gave it to his prostitute aka the “queen o’ whores”. Now Jaime slapped him real hard for insubordination and told him to take the prostitute with him but not the crown so if the crown was with Jaime before Ryman left to the forest and got croaked by Catelyn and her goons, how did Catelyn retrieve that crown? Is the prostitute Catelyn’s agent? Will the crown become relevant in the future if Robb’s will about making Jon the next King in the North turn out to be true? Also, it could be interesting if Jon and Catelyn somehow meet again, considering both of them are fire zombies who got murdered by their own men and came back to life thanks to the lord of light. Cat could end up having a change of heart after knowing about Jon being a Stark-Targaryen child, not Ned’s bastard and it could lead to a big confusion about the Northern succession because suddenly a potential next King in the North popped out of nowhere and Cat is now witnessing him.
Also, we never know what happened to Robb’s head. Maybe he’s eaten by worms and rotten around the twins just like everyone else or maybe…just maybe, when Joffrey ordered Walder Frey to send him Robb’s head to terrorize Sansa in his wedding, maybe Frey already sent him but Robb’s head is now in the possession of Qyburn. Could Qyburn do some experiment with Robb’s head to make him bigger and send that big skull to Dorne? The one that they pretend it belongs to Gregor Clegane, or the skull in Dorne is actually Gregor Clegane but Robb’s head is now sewn with the body of Gregor in the new identity of Ser Robert Strong.
You know, Robb…Robert, Stark…Strong.
I would be very honored if you read this comment and end up making videos about it.
There are a few possible ways for the crown to get into LSH's hands. Ryman could have ignored Jaime's order and took the crown anyway, then was killed by LSH. Tom O' Sevens could have stole the crown and passed it on to LSH. Or, as you say, the sex worker was an agent of LSH. But, no, I do not see LSH crowning Jon with that crown - he is too far away and I don't even think Robb named him as heir.
Robb's head is a mystery as Joffrey did want it, but the order was likely ignored to get it. I imagine it was thrown in a mass grave (as much as it would be fun to be on Robert Strong).
@@PrestonJacobstheSweetrobin Catelyn doesn’t have to crown Jon with that crown but I’m looking forward to see their reunion because like I said, both of them are fire zombies who used to get murdered by their own men. Catelyn changed from compassionate to a violent vengeful person seeking revenge. Jon after resurrection could become more cynical and cruel as well. Seeing them interacting with each other, fighting about Jon’s bastard status, his true parentage with Rhaegar and Lyanna and how both Jon and Catelyn might end up realizing that they are not so different would be very fascinating.
And as you said, George loves to subvert our expectations. What if Lady Stoneheart was a foreshadowing of what Jon will become? Like George trained us to think that Jon and Dany will be these chosen one (or two) heroes who will save the planet from the Others ever since book one and the Faegon will be a bad guy who steal that glory from them. What if in the end, Faegon become the only one who maintain his sanity and is actually a great ruler while Dany become the mad queen while zombie Jon become an evil tyrant that could surpass Tywin Lannister (just like zombie Catelyn is now a psychopath killer).
Faegon being Azor Ahai could be poetic because it shows us that you don’t have to have a magic Targaryen lineage like Jon or Dany to save the world. You can be a normal person, or a Blackfyre or anyone with a good heart and competency and that’s enough. Jon and Dany could represent aristocracy (like kings and queens and dictators). Faegon could represent meritocracy (like elected presidents).
Also, I would love to see Robb’s head belongs to Robert Strong. Arya wants to remove Gregor off the list, right? Now witness Gregor with her dead brother’s head and see if she will have a gut to kill him.
jon’s not a fire zombie. he’s not even dead.
damn you haven't see many battle scene on TV show.
Twelfth Night is my favorite
So, this is a whole season ? Or a season’s hole ?? I’ll go sit in the corner.
So, as a Swede who's been involved in the Chocolate Ball discourse and read a fair bit of history on it (the confectionary, the name, and the word itself), here's a rant:
There's really no feasible position that the confectionary 'just sounds' like that word. Rather, the people whinging about it no longer being commonly refered to by that name hold that the Swedish version of the N-word isn't derogatory, and/or that the name is a crucial part of Swedish culture (these people are usually Swedish White Nationalists; not everyone who uses the old name is, some are simply old people who didnt get the memo).
The idea would be that the word is closer in tone to the US usage of "n*gro" than the actual n-word. In reality though, not only does that fail as an argument because "n*gro" also is at best a really dubious term but the Swedish term also de facto has been used as a slur the same way the n-word has.
I still think there's more chance of the ROP wizard being a blue than being gandalf. When it comes down to it, the only evidence he's gandalf is that he's met a hobbit and he said a fan-service line that gandalf once said (based on his ability to smell which you'd assume all the wizards could do if one could)
Besides that, literally everything else points to him being a Blue. He's headed to Rhun (which gandalf never did, he arrives more or less in the same year Sauron makes the one ring which follows the blue's 2nd version of their story, they've already teased him with a different staff and they're only keeping it vague to maintain the mystery of him maybe being gandalf. But most importantly, the Blue wizard's stories are wide open to interpretation so they can basically make him an Amazon original character without pissing anybody off..
"Fan service line." Not sure if Hollywood writers see it that way. Pretty sure they think they're geniuses and that line would make all the sweaty nerds orgasmic. Cause they thought sweaty nerds would like the show. I wouldn't give Hollywood writers that much credit.
But I do hope you're right.
preston having this channel alone IMO is evidence of the patriarchy
1:48 if you're lore snob????? Preston Jacobs is judging people for being lore snobs???? LOOOOOOOOOL. Love you tho dude x
Rhaenyra's stillborn daughter confirmed to have scales
I'm sad to hear you found RoP dull. I found it to be the opposite. I'd really love a scripted review of it from you knowing that you would be honest about it and actually see it before reviewing it (unlike some people)...
I like that the writers made Viserys' naming and determination to keep Rhaenyra as heir was out of guilt for how he treated his wife in her final moments.
Is that in the first couple episodes? I feel like he *had* to do it because his son was dead and his brother was removed from power. Maybe he is supposed to have *two* reasons?
Yeah but that totally negates the reasoning in the book. Which is just he chose her instead of Daemon
@@nicholsonfile But then he keeps her as heir after his son is born.
@@elliottwilliams9221 Again, he maintains this after his son was born.
I don't think you're picking up on Rhaenyra and Viserys' relationship. the prophecy and patriarchy and destiny are all intertwine with their personal connection. He fucks up his parenting several times and every time, the way he reestablishes their bond is by affirming her as his heir. She fucks up as a daughter and he restores their bond by reminding her of the prophecy. So being the heir is core to her relationship to her father and the prophecy for her is about her father. If she doesn't become the queen then she and her father didn't have a relationship based on anything real. So she's calling on him to save their relationship and he climbs that throne for their relationship. so yeah it's about patriarchy but also fatherhood. She also doesn't go with Criston because of the prophecy, not just because of the responsibility but because that responsibility is what her connection to her father is based on.
The pronunciation is obviously Row-gar-eye
yes def watch the peripheral, also no nolan didnt create westworld, thats chrichton, just like gibson created the peripheral not nolan.
Whether Amazon had to make copy-right-related changes to ROP is largely irrelevant and a red herring. NOBODY forced them to make a show centred around events they didn't have the copyright to, they could have done ANYTHING else. No one forced them to do this, very few people even asked them to do this. Everyone would have been fine with a story set in the third or fourth age that didn't touch on canon at all. Instead they made this problem for themselves, and it's not an excuse to blame that on them not having the rights to it, that's the problem, not the excuse.
I find it a little biased that Rhaenyra got 2 birthing scenes and Alicent got none. If they’re supposed to be each others counterpart, there should have been a scene of Alicent giving birth to Aegon or Helaena or Aemond.
Preston did have a point with his RoP observation that the show attempted to portray the orcs as something other than mindlessly evil pawns. In those middle episodes as they introduced Adar, seemed like they took baby steps in that direction. But they never truly followed through. Instead of showing Adar as addressing the warband of orcs, imagine if there were orc families there, migrating from a famine down south or east. And he's blaming Sauran for putting the orcs in this predicament. That could have been powerful- give the orcish race some depth and a degree of sympathy. Heck, you could have even used that as a reason for Halbrand being on that stupid ship. He and some loyalists had to take flight when Adar overthrew his reign. Then when he comes back in the van of a Numenorian army, Adar recognizes him and is utterly baffled- what turn of events led to this?? Could have been interesting, even attempting to follow their lame storyline with a few improvements.
Ok the ideas are flowing here: Halbrand's ship is wrecked and he's on the flotsam with the surviving loyalists, when he encounters Galadrial. They rescue her but she's barely alive, only conscious for a few moments as they haul her out of water. Sauran recognizes her and hatches a plan. He kills the rest of his crew before she wakes up. She's appreciative (if her face can pull that off) but confused as Halbrand is the only person on the wreckage. Either he tells her there was another storm and they all drowned, or that she was confused and he was the only one. She accepts his story, but something about it always bothers her and this little seed of distrust is planted in her mind. Halbrand only tells her his ship was a trading galley from the land of Umber (not sure what he'd say his role on the ship was).
They're rescued by Numenorians and in their audience before the Regent, Galadrial reveals her quest to hunt Sauran. Mind you, Halbrand didn't know this before- we have to assume that Galadrail's search for Sauran was to the north as they showed, not south, so she didn't know he was there and he didn't know she was hunting him. We also have to figure that Sauran's power is diminished. He doesn't have the all consuming power of the fell races that he wielded in the books (this show is so off-cannon that yeah, I'm going with this). Its here that Halbrand come's up with a plan- he tells Galadrial that he's heard rumors of Sauran holding sway over a land bordering Umber with his orc armies, and that he's planning on launching an attack. Perhaps she's at first doubtful; she's got this feeling she shouldn't trust him, but Sauran is her obsession. The Numenorians aren't fully convinced either, and decide to use a Palantir to attempt to view the region. But let's say that only the aged King can use it, who's bedridden but not as infirm as the show depicted. The use of the Palantir is a great strain on him, and he needs Halbrand there to guide his vision as he doesn't really know the region or what he's looking for. He's having difficulty and unexpectedly takes Halbrand's hand and places it on the Palantir to directly assist him, thinking it harmless as long as he's the main operator, but its then that Halbrand's nature is revealed to the King, but being connected through the device Halbrand/Sauran gets control of the King much in the same way Sauruman did with Theoden. The King confirms what Halbrand said, that there's orc armies gathering in the south. Perhaps the King make a recovery afterward, is more hale and hearty, and the Numenorian's opinion of Halbrand goes up considerably. Not only does their King favor him, but the entire court is now disposed to Halbrand. They don't suspect him of having any healing powers-more that the use of the Palantir seemed to awaken something in the King. For Galadrial's part, her trust in Halbrand has gone up a notch and she puts aside her earlier misgivings. Perhaps Elendil is the only person in court that for some reason has never trusted Halbrand or his story- maybe something about the wreckage of the ship doesn't jive with Halbrand's story of it being a trading galley (the sea is always right!). With this knowledge, the Numenorian's assemble a fleet to sail to the southlands put an end to Sauran once and for all.
more ideas: After seeing their King make a recovery, the Regent is so pleased that she makes a comment in court that Halbrand's presence has been "a gift". Later its Elendil that chides Halbrand as "my Lord of gifts", and asks him some probing questions about what he truly knows about the south. Maybe Elendil being their admiral has some secret contacts in the south, and they don't say anything about Sauran being there. Could also be that Galadrial at first doesn't buy what the King and Halbrand said about the Palantir. I'm pretty sure in the lore that Palantir's are Numenorian devices, not sure if the elves had them as well, so she's unfamiliar with the device. She sneaks into the Palantir chamber to attempt to see for herself. She at first struggles to control it, but being powerful herself she eventually manages and attempts to view the southlands as the King and Halbrand did. But she has the same problem as the King, she's not sure where she should be looking. Maybe she sees images of orc armies mustering, but what she really wants to see is Sauran. She doesn't know what he looks like though, and one of the last images she catches is Adar, but only for a moment and from a distance. Its then that she's captured and imprisoned for using the Palantir. Halbrand, still acting like her friend, visits her and questions what she sees. She confirms the orc armies but isn't sure about seeing Sauran.
The show could have also gone in the direction that the usage of the Palantir opened Sauran's eyes to a new way of controlling people. Maybe he got a vibe of the magics involved with the device, and thinks of a way of supercharging it by forging the rings. I think in the lore around Palantirs, the devices were made look only in certain directions, except for a central one that could look anywhere. Maybe that served as the analog to Sauran's plan with forging the rings.
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According to Wikipedia the palantirs were made by Noldor in Valinor.
I don't think it's anywhere explained how they came into possession of the lords of Andunie (in Numenor).
It's something of a Middle - earth mystery.
Somebody clip Preston saying "that's a good reason to hate the blacks" and "I think the blacks are horrible at this point." lol
In Greece we use to call a specific sweet of dark chocolate, "littles N word" but thanks God, not anymore!
Well they will probs start taking Helaena more seriously after blood and cheese (?)
Well, the guy murdered for Laenor to escape was a Driftmark guard apparently.
And I think we can all agree that Driftmark guards were to be executed anyway for doing extremely shitty job at guarding.
29:40 Brits literally invented punk. Punk includes all those Union Jacks for a reason.
I do really like the idea that dragon reproduction is linked to human reproduction, and there are a million pieces of textual evidence to support this. At the same time, F&B is so sparse on details for when the dragons are born. I always got the impression that there were loads of hatchlings running around until Cannibal canniballed.
For instance, isn't it mentioned that when Maegor was young, he refused a bunch of different dragons? ("Though a dozen hatchlings had been born amidst the fires of Dragonstone in the later years of Aegon’s reign, and were offered to the prince, he refused them all.") Admittedly, I don't think we know exactly when this takes place, but which dragons were those???
(also like the idea that Viserys II was swapped out for a random Lyseni kid, cuz elsewise its hard to explain why Naerys' pregnancies didn't hatch dragons - maybe poisoned dragon eggs???)
yessss there’s no way he’s the real viseys.
@@madelynmorgan2999 Yeah its very fitting if the best Targaryen king actually didn't have an illustrious bloodline. (To make him convincingly Viserys-y, the Rogares gave him an actual education in statecraft?) Would also add even more depth to the Blackfyre Rebellions, since Daemon would actually have Targaryen blood through his mother Daena, whereas Daeron secretly wouldn't.
I like Viserys II being a fake, except for one thing. We are quite obviously hinted that Rhaenyra was the real victor on the Dance. Alicent and Aegon's line died out and Rhaenyra's won. To have it randomly die out would be strange.
@@psevdhome well it doesn't exactly die out if Viserys is fake. It survives in the Blackfyres, and in Elaena Targaryen's descendants (the Penroses, Plumms and Longwaters). Besides, history does not remember blood. It remembers names or whatever.
@@Mj_Jetson Yeah that's the other side of it. Sort of both sides lose. And then random descendants of Aegon III become a cadett branch of Targaryens. And cause another civil war.
I thought the lesson was that if Greens hadn't started the war to usurp the throne, then they would have lived and eventually married into Rhaenyra's line anyway, and their descendants would live on as a Targaryen dynasty. Now all true born members of their line are dead and survive only through bastards.
The Battle of the Tavern (RoP) is better than the Battle of the Bastards (GoT)
PJ IS BACK FOMOS
I don't think Starwars really IS doing that well in any way compared to how it COULD or SHOULD be doing. Starwars should be selling out cinemas across the planet whenever a new movie comes out, not floundering in China, and more than that, the toys may be doing ok for some of their releases, but the amount rotting on shelves is really high. I remember that when the prequels were coming out, I had to go back to the store upwards of 10 times to find literally anything besides maybe JarJar binks toys there because they were constantly selling out of products.
21:40 Star Wars: Andor is an antidote to the absolute sludge that streaming services have been producing lately.
Is Caraxes a malformed dragon ? Genetic mutation ? GRRM way of adding science fiction ?
Was Visary’s a bad king ? Or is that how the maesters wrote it to make him bad and to blame for the civil war to cover up for Otto and the maesters who really caused it
I think to a modern, real world sense of morality he was a good king (as much as such a thing can exist) because he didn't kill many people and was basically kind to others. To a Westerosi sense of morality he was a bad king because he was not ruthless enough to secure his power and that of his descendants.
@@SuperSephirott all true but you must remember this is written by the maesters years after the events and they conveniently make the greens or the maesters look good as much as possible.
The two biggest things he did wrong was remarrying and having more kids and not advocating the throne for Rhyneara when he was near death to make the succession go more smoothly
What's the maesters' reason for trying to make the Greens look good? The bloodline died out, why defend it? Why did none of the latter Black monarchs care that in terms of history their line comes from a usurper? Why didn't they decree that Rhaenyra be recorded as the rightful monarch and Aegon the Elder as the usurper?
Fact is, none of it makes a lick of sense ever since George wrote the Jaehaera murder.
@@kallemort because they are Hightowers who still rule old town and find the citedal what don’t you get here??
@@jewsco Why would Aegon 3, Viserys 2, or any descendants allow this? They can read what the maesters are writing, why not put those maesters to death and "fix" the record? They have both the ability and motive to do so, as there is no actual need to keep up relations with a dead bloodline. If Aegon and Jaehaera had kids it might make sense, but she died quickly so what's the point of placating ghosts?
Why on earth would i care about characters being good or bad if the bad guys are interesting characters good guys boring?
I used to be hyped for WoW.... but after watching this show.... im so over it!
Aegon going to child fights is just him being a good soccer mom. He comes to cheer for his kids!
I think there is some meaning to the Rob and Lynna names. When it comes down to it, A Song for Lya is about Lya rejecting Rob, which is what Robert and Lynna's whole relationship in ASOIF boils down to as well. Just replace Rhaegar with a parasitic psychic cult. Rob and Lynna will never be together in any continuity.
Lya doesn't reject Robb, she asks him to join her in the Greeshka. He refuses.
@@PrestonJacobstheSweetrobin What do you think Robert's reaction would have been if she offered to marry both him and Rahegar? The ultimate point is that she chose the Greeshka and it's idea of heaven (which is also literal death) over her perfectly satisfactory human life with a real person. She invited him with her, but her desire for something more was worth more to her than actual love.
@@Jotari I'm not sure if I really see it. In A Song For Lya, Robb and Lyanna are telepaths deeply in love. Lyanna's love of the Greeshka though surpasses Robb, which hurts him and confuses. Lyanna and Robert are not in love. Lyanna is an idea in Robert's mind and Lyanna has no such feelings for him. Not to mention, its Robb Stark who is named for Robb, not Robert Baratheon.
@@PrestonJacobstheSweetrobin And who do you think Robb Stark was named after?
I’m a Helaena supporter
Aegon and Jahaera marriage isn't a happy ending anyway because Aegon's heirs die anyway and Viserys' line ascends the throne. I thought George meant to imply with the death of Jahaera that Alicent's usurpation through Aegon the Elder was seen as illegitimate and their heirs had to die, and the line of Rhaenyra and Daemon that everybody opposed as being the true line of succession. Remember that history still made Rhaenyra's Queenship illegitimate even though it was her children that succeeded Aegon the Elder. Quite schizofrenic if you ask me.
This may be complicated by the fact that many believe that Viserys wasn't Viserys but a Lyseni.Though why would the Rogare faction need to marry themselves to Viserys if Viserys was already a Lyseni of their household? They made themselves visible and open to attack, when a Lyseni Viserys could have been guided to advance their interests from the shadows, without exposing their family. Viserys is a tragic character, who is tasked with rebuilding the Targaryens after mismanagement by Daeron and Baelor and the inaction of his brother Aegon. He then dies after being king for only one year, which hightens the tragedy even more.
Edit: I gotta drop in this joke real quick House Rogaine.
Lula’s the best bet for Brazil in a popular election, and you’re not a fan of him?
Do a SLOOOOOWWWWWW easy andor podcast…best show on tv now that hotd is done…or crack the fan focton😢
Paddy Considine. Con-sa-dine. Not Constantine.
It’s kind of running joke to say his name wrong
6:30 What??? Say it isn't so.
he should just not write the bran chapters, have "what happened" come out in little hints in other people's chapters when they meet Bran
same with Danaerys. the next Dany chapter should be her on dragonstone lying to herself about the bad things she did to get there.
“Not that Brits didn’t have punk”
Arguably punk was born from British bands
DIY punk/hardcore punk was defo American though
Uhm the brit bands heard the Ramones and did it themselves. Also American blues and Soul.
@@degotas punk was the topic. Loads of the original US punk bands reference British bands as their influence
@@degotas American blues and soul… brought to the US by immigrants who didn’t have much say in the matter if you get my meaning
Punk was more of a rebellion to the industry and to rock/pop which then became a recognised sound due to the bands leading the charge and a lot of the time with the garage rock sound (which was mostly USA) A lot of them consisted of a poor/mediocre guitarist and drummer who got their friends who didn’t know how to do music to play bass and to sing
Funnily enough I’m pretty sure now you mention them the ramones were one such band who got a bass player that couldn’t play bass, there’s a few bands like that seen as founders of punk
A lot of early punk bands the bassist is practically playing identical notes & rhythm to the guitarist as the were following what to do!
@@degotas also you know the Ramones were playing a couple local shows around their hometown when sex pistols started, so I don’t think local teens in north London were listening to them. No internet and kids saved up for LPs and traded them in for different LPs. they were (pistols) influenced by other local London bands with a similar sound when they started
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now i have to finish rings of power to listen to the podcast
Let's just start a Joffery Velaryon fan group. Surely he is the one character with the potential for speaking lines they can't break or ruin before his extremely tragic death.
I don’t think I can deal with another season that’s as all over the place as this one.
It was Ok. Some of it was great. Some of it was utter GOT season 7/season 8 tripe.
And the way they’ve kinda fucked with Daemon, not on board.
lol mk. Feel free to mention the dozens of other show that are more worth while of your time or are you claiming that you are getting rid of TV. All of you pedantic morons bitching about shows not being perfect will never not be hilarious.
Agreed. But there was definitely more good than bad though
How did the fuck with Daemon? If anything it is one of the things they got right as he is suppose to be a grey character
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My handwave is that Daemon is an impulsive and thoughtless person and his motivations are obscure even to him.
@@jewsco lol how is he a grey character? He's done nothing good for anyone bar himself and the writers/directors even said him picking up Viserys's crown was only because Viserys would side with Rhaenyra. He's completely evil with no redeeming qualities.
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They don’t have to sell to little kids. They have to sell to millennials and likely Gen Z as we will likely be the largest generations seeing as how everybody is having less kids right now. We will forever live in nostalgia land they will be selling millennials reboots of 90s shit until the day our trans human parts fizzle out and we become the bag of bones we were meant to be… dead in the dirt.
rings of power fight scenes were laughably bad
Preston knows nothing about lord of the rings
He knows something but I doubt he's read the deutero - canonical books (like History of Middle - earth).
Few have.
@@alanpennie8013 i've not either, but i;ve read lotr, preston seems to think that bad guys fighting is new to rop, when sauron and saruman are in conflict in lotr, and pretty much every time an orc doesn't fight the heroes they fight each other
I really think they should have made the Strongs a black family with black hair and having all of Rhaenerya's kids have black hair. I think the Strong boys not even believing they're Velaryons takes away from the mysteries.
I wouldn’t say I’m a green supporter but there a lot more reasons to support them. At least going be the show. Rhaenyra has taken her role as heir for granted. She is not at court and seems to just be waiting for her father to die. It seems Jace is committed to be a good king but is he really learning anything at Dragonstone? Meanwhile Aliscent is basically running the kingdom and probably has a legitimate reason to believe that her children are in danger if her son doesn’t take the throne.
I am Green supporter because i am *not* misogynist. Brothel Queens was one of if not *the* most vile thing done in this war.
read the book again lol, it never happened. only Mushroom says anything about that and all he says is that Mysaria suggested it, not that Rhaenyra actually did it.
Lol it seems it's you who should read the book again. Gyldayn says bluntly that it's not something Mushroom came up with and it was widely known fact. He just dismisses that without any reason. Literally. No justification for dismissing it. Here you have the exact quote:
"That such a tale was told in the wine sinks and pot shops of King’s Landing cannot be doubted, but it may be that its provenance was later, when King Aegon II was seeking justification for the cruelty of his own acts."
It's the most blatant example of Gyldayn picking and choosing historical facts on his whims and him being a biased narrator. He literally have nothing except "it may be" without any proof or let's be honest - any logic. When was Aegon seeking this justification? He wasn't rulling after the war. He was assassinated in it. Are we supposed to believe, that within the short window between Borros arriving in KL and Muddy Mess he somehow managed to gaslight half a million people into believing that something happened when it clearly didn't happened and everyone who was in King's Landing at a time can tell it didn't happened? It's not like this had happened behind closed doors in the palace, so townfolk can't tell if this had happened. The story is clear. They were supposed to be allowed to be raped by *any man* who can afford the price. Everyone in KL would know it's a hogwash if that was fake news. And here we are told that there is no doubt it was known thing in King's Landing
Goodness gracious Preston. Until you’re going to have on someone who will push back against all your straw men representations of Republican arguments…. Please for crying out loud, just leave the political comparisons out of it.
America is such a strange place when Preston is afraid to even say "the n word" regardless of the context.
He's not "afraid," he's being respectful of Black ppl. I know, such a weird concept, huh?
The George coming up with “reasons and excuses” in his head to defend his friend is a really odd take
Could it not be if he does defend them that it’s because he actually knows the person, their morals, their character, their intent?
As opposed to people online who are making damming assumptions as to a persons character based on a few pieces of information without ful context or knowledge of the person, their intent etc
Could be poor attempts at jokes, things out of context
Without knowing a persons heart and mind and judging them on odds and sods bits of evidence that may or may not be in context or a joke rather than judging them on their actions, reasons and character seems rash
Without knowing a lot of things going on when something deemed potentially “”racist” is said or posted and reasons behind what’s said or posted doesn’t sit well with me
I have a friend in his 50s now, white, loads of old tattoos, played in a ska/punky band, shaved head, people assumed he was maybe racist due to appearance, even more so when he was posting products with funny names and pictures from Far Eastern countries
But had these people known anything about him, he was in Japan with his long term Japanese wife, posting photos of things he has previously told his close friends about last time he was out there, which was before everyone posted everything online
I’ve posted pictures of “cock soup” packets from the shop before doesn’t mean I’m for or against men
I’ve just looked into the Linda thing….
Is the uproar really because she commented on the fact corlys is black in the show when he isn’t in the source material??
Something I’ve heard many RUclips commentators mention, the fact it makes it even more hard for the realm to believe the strong boys aren’t bastards and there was no real reason for him to be black
I mean other than that point I think corlys and his whole family did an amazing job this season and have no issue with it, but I can understand someone feeling the need to comment if they’ve built their whole career on song of ice and fire world and the lore associated with it, and the authors description and appearance of the people from the area of Valyria
I’m sure if a spin off was based around yi-ti and one if the main families were ginger haired pale skinned as Celtic as possible where as everyone else was East Asian appearance then Linda would probably have commented on that
The racist thing is flung around so recklessly these days
@@Goodywloss2010 it’s not just the N-ball thing with Corlys. It’s a long, long pattern of behavior. I've seen her tweets - she gets angry and defensive and then says stupid things, sometimes calling people various slurs in order to "own" them. One of her most shocking threads had her calling people "ret*rds" over and over and over. This isn't a teenager or a person in their early twenties. She's in her forties. From a business perspective, she is just a liability.
@@PrestonJacobstheSweetrobin was unaware of the childish behaviour, all I saw upon research was corlys and about on of the Quaarth lot (the one daeny locks in the safe I assume whose name Ill butcher but attempt zo-an-doxis or something)
As well as roughly understand a tweet of a product with a racial slur as a name.
If she complains about character changes for reasons she doesn’t agree with I don’t think she deserves to be branded racist
However if she continually acts like a child and shows herself up then she deserves to be called out
If she complains about black actors for any other reason than it being off from the source and lore then again she should be called out
I don’t think George is wrong for defending her regarding the 2 shows character changes but if he defends other poor behaviour that has no justification then that’s not good
It’s so common for peoples intentions to be thrown aside an them branded as the most horrific things like racist unjustly, I just hope it isn’t hsppening in our community, but behaviour proven to be unjustified and out of order I agree should be criticised
@@PrestonJacobstheSweetrobin I agree with most of this btw, but calling people the R***RD slur isn’t racial, all the uproar I saw when I looked into this after hearing you speak was that she is racist. If she has called people racial slurs in arguments there’s no defence, if she made comments regarding casting decisions and called people non racial slurs then she isn’t racist just a pathetic woman child
Russian word for book is kniga (книга)
Gotta love it when people who obviously don’t watch anime get defensive when their favorite think is compared to anime.
Like do people just think anime is just all DragonBall and Pokémon? That all anime villains are just Team Rocket incompetent or Freeza levels of evil for evils sake?
Do people not realize that anime is a very large art movement with a plethora of media that caters to all demographics, not just kids?
out of genuine curiosity, what are your top 5 favorite anime.
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