Rise and Fall of the Targaryens - House of the Dragon Lore DOCUMENTARY

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    Wizards and Warriors animated fantasy documentary lore video series on the history of the World Ice and Fire continues with a video on the rise and fall of the house of Targaryens, as we cover the time Targaryens spent in Valyria, their conquest of Westeros, the Dance of Dragons and the Blackfyre Rebellions.
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  • @WizardsandWarriors
    @WizardsandWarriors  Год назад +60

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    • @darklordmalthric3633
      @darklordmalthric3633 Год назад +3

      When will you cover sci fi battles?

    • @MAOofDC
      @MAOofDC Год назад +3

      I have some suggestions for new topics.
      The Saint Alessia Rebellion from The Elder Scrolls Universe. Lots of battles, duels and a couple of genocidal rampages that wiped out many a town in that war.
      For a Sci-Fi sources I highly recommend you use Starship Troopers (the book not the movie).
      Finally and I cannot stress this one enough for a Sci Fi source for many videos dozens, at least.
      The entire BOLO universe started by Keith Laumer. Not just describing the different versions of the self aware tanks, but the many battles they fight over centuries of fictional history.

    • @jeangale6914
      @jeangale6914 Год назад

      I think you made some errors in the family tree of the Targaryens.

    • @darklordmalthric3633
      @darklordmalthric3633 Год назад

      @@jeangale6914 like what?

    • @jeangale6914
      @jeangale6914 Год назад +2

      @@darklordmalthric3633 They said that Rhaenys is Viserys I sister and is her cousin, they said aemond and Lucerys are cousins but are uncle and nephew and when the dance happened Rhaenyra was pregnant with his sixth child not the fourth.

  • @jameshughes6870
    @jameshughes6870 Год назад +403

    "While Jacaerys was arming peasants with giant sentient napalm machines," - possibly the greatest line I have ever heard in a documentary.

    • @Andre_APM
      @Andre_APM 7 месяцев назад +7

      42:44

    • @christiancampbell7467
      @christiancampbell7467 Месяц назад

      I do to. Up there with "those are brave men out their... let's kill them"

  • @c.w.simpsonproductions1230
    @c.w.simpsonproductions1230 Год назад +3912

    The Dance of the Dragons, the Blackfyre Rebellions, Robert’s Rebellion… the Targaryen’s greatest enemy has always been themselves.

    • @SimpleNobody2420
      @SimpleNobody2420 Год назад +286

      Indeed, kind of like the Romans or The Mongols. First, they destroy themselves then their enemies conquer what's left of them.

    • @RexOlafusVidulusMagnus
      @RexOlafusVidulusMagnus Год назад +46

      Same with the Polish Piast Dynasty

    • @Orcaluv26
      @Orcaluv26 Год назад +73

      @@SimpleNobody2420 could be the same for the US atm tbh

    • @devvytm
      @devvytm Год назад +43

      @@Orcaluv26 How so? No one is destroying the US and it, itself is still at the height of its power. Furthermore, civil war within the US itself is unlikely at the present due to current world affairs so I don't see how it could be the same for them but please explain. I am always looking to learn more.

    • @outlawfly664
      @outlawfly664 Год назад +28

      @@SimpleNobody2420 Empires that fall within never reappears again. But most empires that was conquered by foreign enemies had been weakened internally prior to invasion. They are very few cases where empires at it's peak have been conquered by a foreign adversary.

  • @lucas182512
    @lucas182512 Год назад +841

    its almost unbelievable that a masterpiece like this is free to watch on yt

    • @MonBerry
      @MonBerry Год назад +10

      It is really well done. But far from a masterpiece.

    • @Sulla-ps3jv
      @Sulla-ps3jv Год назад +17

      @@MonBerry No it’s not well done; it’s filled with inaccuracies all over the place.

    • @versaii5519
      @versaii5519 Год назад +7

      @@Sulla-ps3jv ???

    • @TheJandufandu
      @TheJandufandu Год назад

      Not sure if I should watch the whole video. I have not read the books. ..?

    • @lucas182512
      @lucas182512 Год назад +3

      @@TheJandufandu only if u dont care about spoilers

  • @ishauni_x
    @ishauni_x Год назад +833

    Say what you want about George RR Martin, the man surely knows how to create a world and a well thought out history for his stories

    • @petergianakopoulos4926
      @petergianakopoulos4926 Год назад +14

      What else would you say?

    • @a.munroe
      @a.munroe Год назад +43

      He tweeked real historical events, the best part is that he's exactly as brutal as a parallel medevial would be.

    • @jirkakobyliskybyk1992
      @jirkakobyliskybyk1992 Год назад +8

      But he is absolutely the in picking the worst possible tactics for these events. For example charge into center of pikemens basically never happened. Also getting yourself yourself burn allive fighting with melee weapons on plains ...

    • @jirkakobyliskybyk1992
      @jirkakobyliskybyk1992 Год назад +3

      But he is absolutely the in picking the worst possible tactics for these events. For example charge into center of pikemens basically never happened. Also getting yourself yourself burn allive fighting with melee weapons on plains ...

    • @fuckyouleftube
      @fuckyouleftube 11 месяцев назад +2

      all i know is the army of the dead is coming. So um i better go hide in the crypt.

  • @avi.chan23
    @avi.chan23 Год назад +192

    I never managed to read the novels by G.R.R. Martin, but I love the world of ice and fire, so for me it is really amazing having the whole history of house targaryen summarized in a documentation. Thanks a lot for the hard work!

    • @trevinwolverine1904
      @trevinwolverine1904 Год назад +2

      We'll probably get another volume of the world of ice and fire before winds lol

    • @souljamane9244
      @souljamane9244 5 месяцев назад +1

      Fire & Blood gives a lot of life and history to the lore

    • @jewsco
      @jewsco 4 месяца назад +2

      Listen to them on audio books it’s well worth it

    • @avi.chan23
      @avi.chan23 4 месяца назад

      @@jewsco I'm notthat big of a Fan of audio books. Love to ready books myself instead. With the books of Mr. Martin I just Had the issued that the first one was soooooooo boring in the beginning, like way to many names and nothing really interesting happening. At least for my taste. I have thus issues with other great authors too, so it's not the fault of the author, just not my kind of starting a story to get me attached to it.
      Therefore I am really glad for all the summaries and videos about the books and the whole universe

    • @jewsco
      @jewsco 4 месяца назад +1

      @@avi.chan23 it is much easier to start now that you know most of the characters because you are right there are a lot thrown out at the beginning

  • @Cheka__
    @Cheka__ Год назад +160

    This is pretty interesting. They should make a TV series about it.

  • @SoCalChris
    @SoCalChris Год назад +894

    The is the most well put together and easy to understand Targaryen timeline of events on the internet.. Seriously, you didn't overcomplicate something that doesn't need more levels of complication.. Others have tried... And failed. Great job.

    • @sheilanjoro
      @sheilanjoro Год назад +4

      I could not agree more. This well done.

    • @naassonjones8649
      @naassonjones8649 Год назад +1

      Hell yeah. Base on this, I'm extra excited to see how House of Dragon adapts the intriguing tale🤤😍

    • @kentwanblackstock7879
      @kentwanblackstock7879 Год назад +11

      A lot of the information is wrong and missing

    • @drewrites4613
      @drewrites4613 Год назад

      Agreed.

    • @nadindakirana5650
      @nadindakirana5650 Год назад +5

      @@kentwanblackstock7879 yeah, I agree most of the people commenting here didn't read the original book

  • @otgunz
    @otgunz Год назад +564

    Hey people, in terms of art and animation, some parts are from our earlier videos made for Kings and Generals 2 years ago on GoT subject. Other parts are new and made for this video only. So there is a difference between styles, map design etc. The reason is this. Happy watching and see you on the next one. 🖐️

    • @benpage5088
      @benpage5088 Год назад +5

      Yeah was just rewatching your first GoT video n noticed some differences coming to this cheers

    • @paulceglinski3087
      @paulceglinski3087 Год назад +3

      No worries then. Cheers.

    • @annamiau8116
      @annamiau8116 Год назад +3

      I cant escape you, guys.

    • @Wisteria_9
      @Wisteria_9 Год назад +7

      Personally I don't mind. Because that's not why I'm here, when reading history or story like GoT sometimes I got lost in some point and it's very good thing some people willingly to summarize it in form of video. Thank you for the update and may all king and general channels grow even more

    • @bronxbomerpito7286
      @bronxbomerpito7286 Год назад +1

      Yes I saw that and I love this one too

  • @X525Crossfire
    @X525Crossfire Год назад +593

    Fact check: Rhaenyra was pregnant with her *sixth* child when she received the news of Aegon's usurpation. By this time she already had five sons: Jacaerys, Lucerys, Joffrey, Aegon, and Viserys; the child she miscarried was her daughter Visenya.
    Edit: Also, Queen Helaena was Queen Dowager Alicent's daughter, not her daughter-in-law.

    • @thegreatpage5912
      @thegreatpage5912 Год назад +149

      Technically, Queen Helaena was Alicent's daughter in law as well, since she is married to Alicent's son. The Targaryen family tree is all over the place, in that family your dad could also be your uncle.

    • @sadsam3684
      @sadsam3684 Год назад +14

      @@thegreatpage5912 oh ur right lol

    • @buckledben
      @buckledben Год назад +19

      The redkeep wasnt built in aegons reign but many years after in megors cruel reign

    • @CoRLex-jh5vx
      @CoRLex-jh5vx Год назад +9

      @@buckledben it was started by Aegon I believe

    • @gmailaccount3561
      @gmailaccount3561 Год назад +11

      She was her daughter also daughter in law lmao

  • @Superpatriot
    @Superpatriot Год назад +276

    I heard "...arming peasants with sentient napalm machines..." and literally burst out laughing.

    • @246vili
      @246vili Год назад +2

      Same here.

    • @theawesomeman9821
      @theawesomeman9821 Год назад +10

      Its funny cause its true.

    • @d.m.collins1501
      @d.m.collins1501 Год назад +6

      "Sentient Napalm Machines" definitely sounds like a band name. But what TYPE of band? Of course grindcore or thrash metal immediately come to mind, but it might be even better for a quirky, smart-alecky band of very white men with glasses, like a cross between Might Be Giants and the Barenaked Ladies.
      I also like the idea of it being an early 80s hardcore punk band, but if it was, they'd shorten it to "SNM" and play on bills with JFA, DI, and DOA.
      Actually come to think of it, it might be a good name for a very early 90s industrial band inspired by KMFDM and Front 242--but they'd have a more sexual vibe akin to Psychic TV and the Thrill Kill Kult. They would often shorten their name to "S n M" (get it?!?) and have album art of, like, women in black leather spanking men in bondage gear. And they'd have at least one song with their own name in the lyrics, something like "Sentient Napalm Machines/Running the American Dream..."

    • @Superpatriot
      @Superpatriot Год назад +5

      @@d.m.collins1501 The choice is obvious. CCR cover band.

    • @magnusthered4973
      @magnusthered4973 Год назад +6

      Byzantine empire be like

  • @bradkempton7905
    @bradkempton7905 Год назад +245

    Rhaenys and Viserys weren't brother and sister. They were cousins. Rhaenys was the first born child of King Jaeherys' third born son Aemon and Viserys was the first born of Jaeherys' 4th born son Baelon whom both were heir apparent before dying before Jaeherys. Rhaenys' line technically had the stronger claim being the first born of an elder son, but since she was female, the great counsel of 101 AC chose Viserys over Rhaenys and her son Leanor due to Viserys being the closest living male relative. They were the only 3 potential claimants to be seriously considered out of roughly a dozen potential heirs. That story is a very important precursor to the Dance of the Dragons.

    • @lochlanensign5034
      @lochlanensign5034 Год назад +23

      He also got something else wrong too Aemond Targaryen lost his eye in a fight with his nephew Lucerys Velaryon

    • @brandondavis7777
      @brandondavis7777 Год назад +4

      Aemond had a better claim than Baelor, Baelor's sons have a better claim than Aemond's daughter. Agnatic Primogeniture.

    • @Jmaug
      @Jmaug Год назад

      I caught that error also

    • @fk8chick893
      @fk8chick893 Год назад

      Yes caught this as well.

    • @jimmothybiz
      @jimmothybiz Год назад +1

      Also, Haelena wasn't "only" Alicent's daughter in law, but also just her daughter, since Aegon II and Healena were siblings. Great video still, however.

  • @StiggyZardust
    @StiggyZardust Год назад +893

    Seems strange to completely skip over the reign of Maegor the Cruel.

    • @gfilmer7150
      @gfilmer7150 Год назад +130

      I think it was because they originally did a video on The Conquest and First Blackfyre Rebellion and they did the whole bit about The Dance because of the new series.

    • @tssmith1701
      @tssmith1701 Год назад +34

      I agree we are missing a lot here. But hey….future content.

    • @christopherjordan2890
      @christopherjordan2890 Год назад +21

      That’s exactly my thought when it just jumped to Jahearys

    • @DevletGiray
      @DevletGiray Год назад +16

      Same, I feel like they should have just made a separate video for Dance of the Dragons instead of trying to make one megavideo that misses out a lot of cool history, like Maegor the Cruel, Aegor Bittersteel's further rebellions, War of the Ninepenny Kings, etc.
      Also I thought it was odd to omit the Hour of the Wolf from the section on Dance of the Dragons.

    • @mikooster
      @mikooster Год назад +18

      To skip it without even mentioning that his rule happened is just being factually incorrect and really bothered me lol

  • @tomurg
    @tomurg Год назад +81

    I’ve been waiting for a K&G documentary on the Dance of the Dragons for years….

    • @LexIconLS
      @LexIconLS Год назад +3

      Now we need some about the Blackfyre Rebellions.

    • @tomurg
      @tomurg Год назад +1

      @@LexIconLS It’s already there

    • @Sulla-ps3jv
      @Sulla-ps3jv Год назад +1

      Too bad it’s half-assed.

  • @equusquaggaquagga536
    @equusquaggaquagga536 Год назад +235

    "When King Aenys died, he was succeeded not by his son but by his younger brother Maegor. Prince Maegor Targaryen worked as his brother's Hand but he was exiled after one too many disagreements, mainly about dealing with the Faith. Maegor flew back while riding old Balerion and claimed the Iron Throne. He swiftly crushed the Faith Militant presence in Kings Landing then flew to Oldtown and forced the High Septon to disband and outlaw the Faith Militant. To encourage citizen participation, he also put bounties on the heads and scalps of any holy man carrying arms. Many died and many more went back to their septs. He also killed two of his nephews."
    "The brutality and debauchery of Maegor's six year reign was so well known that when his last surviving nephew Jaehaerys made his bid for the Iron Throne, Maegor was abandoned by most of his supporters. He was found dead, seated on the Iron Throne which he so zealously clung to. And history Maegor Targaryen is forever nicknamed The Cruel."

    • @cdonamikaze4
      @cdonamikaze4 Год назад +24

      I'm surprised they skipped that. Maegor is an iconic king, for the wrong reasons yes, but he was King. He completed the Red Keep. Smashed the Faith Militant, had such characters as lovers and wives, and died a brutal death. I hope HBO cover his story.

    • @mikooster
      @mikooster Год назад +14

      I actually stopped watching because they skipped that without mentioning it at all. Made me feel like I couldn’t trust the info honestly

    • @figjam9530
      @figjam9530 Год назад +8

      old Maegor got a bad rap. he did what needed to be done for the safety and security of the realm.

    • @michaelsuder486
      @michaelsuder486 Год назад +3

      @@mikooster so because they accidentally skipped over one thing you assume that a lot of or all of the information is incorrect?

    • @Argos-xb8ek
      @Argos-xb8ek Год назад +1

      @@figjam9530 Exactly he put the realm in a since back in order.

  • @eddyherrera3207
    @eddyherrera3207 Год назад +76

    I hope HBO makes a series on the destruction of Valeria and Aegon’s conquest.

    • @joetheperformer
      @joetheperformer Год назад +7

      It would just be a strange cultural impact to glorify sibling-marriage. It was one thing showing gross Jamie/Cersei, another showing the glorious trio of Aegon and his two sister-wives.

    • @Lililouvre
      @Lililouvre Год назад +4

      They probably won’t disclose Valyria THAT much considering the mystery behind it makes the world sm more interesting

    • @nicolasmartinez795
      @nicolasmartinez795 Год назад +1

      @@Lililouvre As someone who has recently gotten into the lore surrounding Tolkien's Silmarillion, I think it would be a lot cooler with real history and hard world building. Mystery is cool for some things, but hard world-building is so cool as opposed to soft. I mean, look at all the awesome lore George RR Martin has gotten, it would make Valyria far more interesting, mystery can only do so much.

    • @kungalexander829
      @kungalexander829 Год назад +1

      @@nicolasmartinez795 dont act like tolkein world dosent have alot of crucial
      And besides
      Asoiaf isnt design like the legendarium

    • @Alejojojo6
      @Alejojojo6 Год назад +4

      @@joetheperformer Well, they are making tv show apparently about Aegon's conquest. Incest was a Valyrian tradition. Makes sense since the magic that allows them to have monopoly over dragons was in the blood of 40 High Noble dragonlord families of Valyria. The Targaryens being the last remaining one, they had to interbreed to keep it pure so they could still keep riding dragons. It was like that back in Valyria (so the genes do not expand out of the 40 families) and much more hardcored now when they are the only ones left. Over time, they seemed to have kept the tradition when the dragons went extinct... but you still saw more "fresh blood" coming into their lineage.
      When Aegon's conquest takes place Valyrian traditions were more alive (like poligamy and incest). Incest has been practices a lot in history and this is based in history. Most of us have incest in our lineage since most have relatives from towns and small towns were most tend to be related over the centuries.

  • @loods2215
    @loods2215 Год назад +82

    I remember first reading the book years ago and falling in love with all the intrigue and war. Watching the same story in one of your top-notch videos is a true blessing, I've been waiting for this one. Brilliant job to everyone who worked on this!👏

  • @ledzep215
    @ledzep215 Год назад +111

    Holy hell. An hour long documentary. Well done dude :3

    • @Sulla-ps3jv
      @Sulla-ps3jv Год назад +3

      Nah this video was mediocre at best. They completely skipped Maegor the Cruel!

  • @stussymishka
    @stussymishka Год назад +123

    I picture Valeria like a modern looking futuristic city with dragons flying about. Hope they bring it to life in HOTD.

    • @JoseSanchez-fk9dg
      @JoseSanchez-fk9dg Год назад +26

      At the time the show take place it been destroyed for almost 200 years give or take several decades

    • @rinmartell2678
      @rinmartell2678 Год назад +3

      @@JoseSanchez-fk9dg It’s more than 200 years. I guess🤔

    • @kaihamasaki9307
      @kaihamasaki9307 Год назад +8

      Valeria is long destroyed in HOTD

    • @tsarofshadows1347
      @tsarofshadows1347 Год назад +29

      Why would it be modern? It makes more sense to imagine Ancient Rome at its height, except with very tall skyscrapers and dragons.

    • @margopolo3440
      @margopolo3440 Год назад +9

      I like to think of it as like that elf city in the lord of the rings they all go to in the first movie like super rich and fantasy like and magical

  • @Dave-pq5xc
    @Dave-pq5xc Год назад +55

    Thank you for all the awesome content you put out and thank you to the patrons that support the channel as well.

  • @bongueta
    @bongueta Год назад +21

    This is the best docummentary channel hands down. What a treat this is! Thanks

  • @martinconway8174
    @martinconway8174 Год назад +10

    After just finishing the Dance of the Dragons section of Fire and Blood, I get the notification for this video, what timing!

  • @Biostasis5x7
    @Biostasis5x7 Год назад +13

    WHAT THE HELL? Kings and Generals has a fantasy and fiction channel and it has TONS of videos? I had no idea! This is like an early Christmas present.

    • @otgunz
      @otgunz Год назад +1

      Welcome on board sir!

  • @stephenbaluran3298
    @stephenbaluran3298 Год назад +17

    These longform videos are great. Keep 'em coming.

  • @YeeeeGreg
    @YeeeeGreg Год назад +13

    The K&G channels always do an incredible job! And videos of this length and quality best examples of their work. Thank you again for the content you create!

  • @TheAlexkon3
    @TheAlexkon3 Год назад +107

    wait you skipped Aenys, Maegor, Faith Militant uprising, the whole reign of Jaehaerys, Fourth Dornish War, Myrish Bloodbath, the war in the stepstones and skipped right to the dance. Thats a shame if you want to do all of the history of the Targs

    • @melkor3496
      @melkor3496 Год назад +6

      It’s heresy.

    • @superspies32
      @superspies32 Год назад +1

      Because House Of The Dragons are on aid. I think those will be covered after the series ended and before John Snow sequel begin.

  • @denniscleary7580
    @denniscleary7580 Год назад +98

    Excellent video kings and looking forward to the new House of Dragon series.

  • @TheDemonAngel28
    @TheDemonAngel28 Год назад +14

    damn, this youtube channel deserves more than a million subs, not only they give great visual representation of the books/lore, but it has great narration as well! Can't believe i just discovered this channel now!

    • @nighthawk7817
      @nighthawk7817 Год назад +3

      It's a secondary channel of the Kings and Generals channel, they have +2M subs

  • @bulldogrc6891
    @bulldogrc6891 Год назад +6

    This was absolutely awesome. I can't tell you how much I appreciate you going through the history step by step like this. Keep up the amazing work and you have a new subscriber!

  • @awesomehpt8938
    @awesomehpt8938 Год назад +57

    It’s actually quite possible that the Targaryens fled from Valyria due to some political mishap at court and chose exile on dragonstone rather than death. The whole thing about Danys the dreamer foretelling the destruction of Valyria is likely a myth conjured up afterwards.

    • @joecooper7843
      @joecooper7843 Год назад +27

      The Targaryens do have 'Dragon Dreams' the gift of prophecy as seen amongst many Targaryens (Daeron the Drunkard) and Blackfyres (Daemon II Blackfyre) whose visions do come true just not in the way they have interpreted. However I do think that idea that its a myth is an interesting one in this case.

    • @princeali1932
      @princeali1932 Год назад +7

      Could have been both prophetic dreams and political mishap

    • @UGNAvalon
      @UGNAvalon Год назад +7

      Dream: _~If you stay, it’ll mean the destruction of your line~_
      “Yeah, I’d rather not be a victim of political intrigue. Time to head out!”
      _Valyria gets destroyed_
      “…..yeah! Totally knew that cataclysm was coming!”

    • @josephnarvaez9507
      @josephnarvaez9507 Год назад +4

      @@UGNAvalon To be fair, many dragon dreams are misinterpreted by the dreamers

  • @SamtheIrishexan
    @SamtheIrishexan Год назад +5

    Fantastic. Love the long format! Keep up the good work guys always a pleasure.

  • @CoRLex-jh5vx
    @CoRLex-jh5vx Год назад +6

    Some random shepherd thousands of years ago: Lmao bet you won't go up that mountain bro

  • @joshuaaudiedepositario3041
    @joshuaaudiedepositario3041 Год назад +50

    You forgot Maegor there, after Aenys I.
    But it is DoD so, it's okay. Nice video as always. 🥰
    Gonna wait for warhammer 40k or Malazna hopefufully.

  • @caetanobassoli618
    @caetanobassoli618 Год назад +5

    Simply amazing video, I love longer formats even though they do not perform very well on youtube.

  • @lordoffleabottom136
    @lordoffleabottom136 Год назад +17

    My first time in this channel and i knew immediately it was related to Kings And Generals!!
    Dude you're my major source of ancient knowledge, both on real and fantasy worlds! Thanks for that!

    • @987jof
      @987jof Год назад +1

      Normally I’d agree but they really did a bad job researching the info for this episode. They got so many details wrong ☹️

  • @ivoneray1472
    @ivoneray1472 Год назад +8

    Wow! This gave me the feeling of watching a documentary. Well done! 👏👏👏

  • @americastrainerangler3077
    @americastrainerangler3077 Год назад +22

    This history is amazing. I study it as If it really happened. What a story.

  • @martinconway8174
    @martinconway8174 Год назад +215

    So in terms of military units, the Dragons are not as all powerful as I once thought.
    In terms of dragons against armies, the dragons need to be supported from the ground by infantry, as while devastating they are vulnerable to ranged weaponry (crossbows and Scorpions notably). Myraxes shows this, as even during the Conquering a single dragon is defeatable. You can get away with just dragons though, if you have a decisive number of them. The Battle of the Gullet shows this, as well as the dragons weakness to ranged attack.
    Dragon on Dragon combat however I would not advise, in any scenario really. The only example I can see of a straight victory is the battle between Aemond and Lucerys, and that only ended cleanly because Aemond outweighed Lucerys threefold (according to the book) and had years more experience riding. Every other example of combat between dragons ended in mutual defeat. Aemond himself would meet his end in what could be argued as the most even fight between dragons of the war, between himself and Daemon, but in the end the dragons were destroyed weakening both sides (as well as denying them able commanders). Aegon II too, would shatter both his legs in his fight to retake Dragonstone, and while he and Sunfyre can claim victory, again both rider and dragon were incapacitated as a result.
    So how should dragons be used? Several ways, I think:
    First, reconnaissance. Excellent flight range, fast as hell and if you choose not to engage the enemy can’t really touch you. Prince Daeron shows this, as the young man proved vital to the Hightower advance from the reach doing exactly this.
    Second, fire support. Dragons should not be deployed dirslectly to the frontline, anywhere. They are too valuable, costly, and are often ridden by people of supreme importance to the army overall. As such, they should be kept at maximum range most of the time, and deployed at pivotal points of the engagement. To create breaches in a wall, to curtail a cavalry charge. To break a stubborn shield wall. While a Field of Fire style decimation sounds good, the risk in my estimation is too high.
    Last, that I can think of anyway, deterrence. Frankly, the threat of dragons is more beneficial than actually using them. Since Harrenhall, every lord in the land knows what could happen if you piss off a dragonrider. Using them as a threat can bring rebellions to premature ends before they begin. King Jaraharys I (Spelling, I know…) famously flew to Oldtown with his dragon just to make a point, he also forgave his step-uncle Lord Baratheon very magnanimously, while they were both standing in front of his dragon eating. The Lord got the message.
    Dragons do not win fights by themselves, and losing one is equivalent to losing a battle by itself. But used properly, you can conquer a continent with them!
    [Thank you for reading, those who did! Also good job GRRM, for creating such a believable universe to discuss, and the lads at Wizards, for this ace video!]

    • @otgunz
      @otgunz Год назад +7

      yep same as tanks or carriers.

    • @fatihk1194
      @fatihk1194 Год назад +3

      Very good analyis thanks.

    • @Bayard1503
      @Bayard1503 Год назад +13

      Yup, only the show made them look like some unbeatable force and then easily to kill.... They are great but they can't help you control the land and you can kill them in battle and the rider has no protection. So it took Valyria like a thousand years to conquer the Giscari cities... What happened in Westeros was unusual but because the people didn't know how to fight the dragons.

    • @Argos-xb8ek
      @Argos-xb8ek Год назад +19

      @@Bayard1503 I don't know I feel Merexys was an extremely lucky shot through her eye was the only way to kill a fully grown adult dragon as shown through the sources the only thing that can hurt a healthy adult dragons are other adult dragons.

    • @jansandman6983
      @jansandman6983 Год назад +2

      yeah like tanks while it is powerful it also has obvious weaknesses easy to exploit without infantry.

  • @CrimsonFlash7
    @CrimsonFlash7 Год назад +18

    Awesome video and just in time for our return to Westeros!

  • @ClintonPlaatjies-md9yl
    @ClintonPlaatjies-md9yl 28 дней назад

    The insight into the history of the lesser houses like Baylish, Gregane and Bolton makes watching GOT again so satisfying.... Thanks for this

  • @princepscivitatis4083
    @princepscivitatis4083 Год назад +34

    "Old Ghis ruled an empire when the Valyrians were still fucking sheep, and we are the sons of the harpy."
    - Kraznys mo Naklo

    • @riccardocirielli
      @riccardocirielli Год назад +2

      Old Ghis: *gets destroyed and turned to ash

    • @princepscivitatis4083
      @princepscivitatis4083 Год назад

      @@riccardocirielli Irony is a fickle bitch.

    • @gangsteryengec873
      @gangsteryengec873 Год назад +2

      @@riccardocirielli Valyria: *gets destroyed and turned to ash

    • @riccardocirielli
      @riccardocirielli Год назад +1

      @@gangsteryengec873 Thousands of years later and not by the hand of the Ghiscari lmao

    • @outlawfly664
      @outlawfly664 Год назад +2

      @@riccardocirielli As if that matters? Valyrian freehold was still wiped out for good, so was the Targeryan dynasty eventually. Irony comes in different forms.

  • @shinfitz
    @shinfitz Год назад +5

    Very detailed. Thank you for the video, this couldn’t have been simple to put together.
    Also, Daemon is such a beast!

  • @hereforthecommentsection9451
    @hereforthecommentsection9451 Год назад +44

    I’ve come to appreciate this Channel much more than the K&G since we’re past most of the early Roman history. Thanks for the content!

  • @TheMinalorettamartin
    @TheMinalorettamartin Год назад +2

    Finally. This way is much clearer the order and how of the happenings. Thanks. Excellent video!

  • @mhshafi2
    @mhshafi2 Год назад +6

    amazing, you did a good job, a very good job. This is the most well-put-together and easy-to-understand Targaryen timeline of events on the internet.

  • @dopeocalypsenow6826
    @dopeocalypsenow6826 Год назад +4

    I watched this a while ago and tonight was wondering why the heck I couldn't find it on the Kings and generals channel. Didn't realize that there was another channel by the same creator, this is awesome!

  • @mariusstorm2584
    @mariusstorm2584 Год назад +5

    This was a heartfelt revisitation for me, and I can't wait for part two !!

  • @bretwatts6235
    @bretwatts6235 Год назад +2

    Brilliant piece of work, thank you for the through and clear information

  • @lindamcmeeking23
    @lindamcmeeking23 Год назад +2

    I'm loving this history. It really helps with trying to follow what's happening. Thanks for your hard work.

  • @dogysipo
    @dogysipo Год назад +4

    Watching these videos gives me a whole nother perspective on characters and events. Can you make a video about Rob's final plan and how he planned to take Casterly rock?

    • @thatoneblackdude3333
      @thatoneblackdude3333 Год назад +1

      That was a tv show addition he actually planned to retake the North from the iron born.

  • @salazarway
    @salazarway Год назад +6

    After a hard working day, these videos come from heavens 🐲
    Keep it strong fellas

  • @TheSweeneytom
    @TheSweeneytom Год назад +1

    I love your content! Lore videos like this one are the just awesome.

  • @budabnett2382
    @budabnett2382 Год назад +59

    You made a mistake with Qarth and the Red wastes. There were numerous cities around Qarth and the Red waste wasn't a desert until it's lake and rivers ran dry after the Doom.

  • @siremilcrane
    @siremilcrane Год назад +6

    Good lord, every single Dance of Dragons battle ends with "so and so won a great victory, but died during the battle"

  • @awesomehpt8938
    @awesomehpt8938 Год назад +30

    The Targaryens are like Kaiba from Yu-Gi-Oh always relying on dragons to win a match when all else fails

  • @GiovanniTheDark
    @GiovanniTheDark Год назад +4

    Fantastic documentary! It would be a great and wonderful joy if you all made one akin to this for the Star Wars LEGENDS timeline! From the Rakata Infinite Empire to the fall of Darth Krayt's One Sith Empire!

  • @iamkaedahara
    @iamkaedahara Год назад +1

    Thank you for this! Now I have a lil bit of high expectations in regards of how bloody the series gonna be.

  • @MrShaneVicious
    @MrShaneVicious Год назад +6

    57:26 The Starks weren't at the Battle of Kingsroad. The war was over by the time the Starks made it that far South. They didn't make it to Kings Landings until after it was taken by the Tully/Blackwater host.

  • @chadczternastek
    @chadczternastek Год назад +3

    Just so well done. Thank you. Wow!

  • @klajdihatija6750
    @klajdihatija6750 Год назад +2

    The quality of this explanation is so good 👏🏻👏🏻

  • @peterdestefano1232
    @peterdestefano1232 Год назад +2

    Very well put together, great work!

  • @rolandszalai718
    @rolandszalai718 Год назад +14

    Its a bit weird to depict the Strong bastard boys with silver hair. It was a big part of the story that they had brown hair and common peasant features.

    • @mihailupu5107
      @mihailupu5107 Год назад +1

      well if the tv show wont respect stuff like this why should they ?

    • @rolandszalai718
      @rolandszalai718 Год назад +4

      @@mihailupu5107 the lads are abs brown-haired in the show...

    • @theliato3809
      @theliato3809 Год назад

      @@mihailupu5107 Why not?

  • @lerneanlion
    @lerneanlion Год назад +39

    Considering that plenty of medieval fantasy series have been covered on this channel, will Pirates of the Caribbean be covered on this channel as well?

    • @LexIconLS
      @LexIconLS Год назад +3

      There's not really a "war" going on in that series fron what I remember. There are some battles, but they're not really connected as part of one conflict. That being said, I'd still probably watch it.

    • @UGNAvalon
      @UGNAvalon Год назад +2

      They did cover the battles of the early Star Wars Rebellion (with sick 3D animations too!) so I don’t see why not.

    • @AIRRAID2
      @AIRRAID2 Год назад +2

      I hope not. :)

    • @trevorward6040
      @trevorward6040 Год назад +2

      pirates of the caribbean definitely doesn't have enough lore for a video like this lmao

  • @aireesme9885
    @aireesme9885 Год назад +2

    this whole video gave me my fix. THANK YOUUUUUUU!!! Perfectly executed.

  • @WhoIsCalli
    @WhoIsCalli Год назад

    Thanks for putting all this together. Great stuff

  • @lotus___freedom
    @lotus___freedom Год назад +4

    Thank you! Great visual representation and pleasant voice, new subscriber.

  • @Erokk1988
    @Erokk1988 Год назад +1

    Loved this video. Excellent history of the fantasy

  • @nicholasmiguelignacio3851
    @nicholasmiguelignacio3851 Год назад +1

    Thank you, for this! Deeply appreciated!

  • @sadsam3684
    @sadsam3684 Год назад +6

    “Leading to the entire Lannister army being slaughtered.”
    Me: yes, good…good

  • @LeeGirl82
    @LeeGirl82 Год назад +4

    This is one of the most amazing things I have seen put together by an "amateur"

  • @librengcoins
    @librengcoins Год назад +1

    Thanks for the video, I have not watch the whole video house of the dragon but because of this I was able to glimpse the story behind before the Games of Thrones

  • @pdxoneway
    @pdxoneway 6 месяцев назад +1

    Great video. Looks like you took your time and it shows. I've watched thr3e times now. Bravo-s👏🏼sir

  • @theawesomeman9821
    @theawesomeman9821 Год назад +6

    Looking forward to see how HBO adapts "Dance of the Dragons."

  • @monitar123
    @monitar123 Год назад +8

    since the show is taking liberties, one change i would like is for Rhanyra to join in the dragon fights and use Syrax more. amazing video btw

    • @dopeocalypsenow6826
      @dopeocalypsenow6826 Год назад +1

      Same here. I'd like them to affirm Daemon living after killing Aemond though, even if it means he's grievously wounded or disappears into self-imposed exile out of grief from losing his dragon.

    • @monitar123
      @monitar123 Год назад +1

      @@dopeocalypsenow6826 that will be cool, also if they do the Nettles love story with him it will be amazing seeing them together after Daemon VS Aemond.

    • @swordshield5592
      @swordshield5592 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@dopeocalypsenow6826not really, it fits so perfectly Daemon and Aemond dying together, it's destiny

  • @krayjd3449
    @krayjd3449 Год назад +1

    the map looks so detailed and so informative

  • @brandonlordbaltimore5182
    @brandonlordbaltimore5182 9 месяцев назад +1

    As a long time ASOIAF fan. Let me say great video & presentation. Truly.
    Sidenote I couldn't help but chuckle at 49:40 when you called the city Queen's landing. 😂 Knowing the reason being you had been saying queen a great many times at that point. Well done brother 🤘👍

  • @letoatreides5165
    @letoatreides5165 Год назад +4

    I mean... Arming peasants with giant flying Napalm machines would be a pretty good description of the Vietnamese war😂

  • @DezNutzBich
    @DezNutzBich Год назад +6

    I remember listening to the story book of this, and now i get to see it in visually told. THANK YOU W&W/K&G!!!

  • @VineNbranches1
    @VineNbranches1 Год назад +2

    THis was thorough and fantastic and I watched the entire video. Thank you

  • @temwaninyondo4193
    @temwaninyondo4193 Год назад +1

    That was the most ambitious crossover between a TV show and nordpass I've ever seen

  • @frankie3010
    @frankie3010 Год назад +25

    Wait, what about Maegor the Cruel? You just skipped him?

  • @JTDavis3100
    @JTDavis3100 Год назад +3

    You work is great! You should do Mass Effect and Harry Potter lore also!

  • @Ef3us
    @Ef3us 28 дней назад

    Amazing video... Thoroughly explained, great animations and u have a soothing voice.

  • @matyasspevacek286
    @matyasspevacek286 Год назад +9

    Dont ask me why. I was just bored. Hot D comes out a day later in Eastern Europe
    4:51 Norvos, Qohor nor Volantis shouldnt exist at this time. Also Sarnor is not a city.
    6:39 Nymeria didn't travelled to Westeros right away, but I get why you would cut that bc its complicated. A small problem is the animation. The Rhoynar lived near river Rhoyne. These ships sailed into Westeros through the river, not from the western coast of Essos. The area of Rhoynish civilisation is also wrong.
    6:50 I dunno its ever stated the people of Dorne are mostly of Rhoynish ancestry. I would actually say Rhoynish ancestry is much smaller than that of the Andals and the First man in Dorne.
    7:02 the Valyrian freehold never was that big like depicted on the map. The Kingdom of Sarnor was independent and never part of Valyrian influence. Only mention in Canon from this part of history is this: Sarnor remained a trading partner with Valyria. Qarth likewise wasn't a part of Valyria.
    7:38 House Targaryen wasn't the most powerful yes. Yet it was still one of 40 ancient noble houses, so definitely not politically unimportant, minor power or on the periphery.
    18:30 We just dont know that. Part of this battle here is made up not canon.
    22:00 We only know the location of Aegons footmen.
    22:55 Any mention of archers in canon I fear. I wouldnt mind that much but You also got the one fact that is known about this battle wrong. The left and right under Oakhearth and Lannister actually didn't charged right in. The plan was that only the center under king Gardener would charge. The left and right tried to swing and attack from behind but they probably didn't make it in time.
    24:29 Sharra Arryn was no king. She is a woman and the king was her son Ronnel. She was just regent.
    25:00 The Red keep was finished by king Maegor the cruel, long way after Aegons death.
    25:45 Tower of Joy propably wasn't standing yet. And if it was, it got its name from Rhaegar Targaryen like 300 years after conquest.
    27:00 Like you mixed two kings, Aenys and Maegor into one I guess. Maegor was the one that defeated the faith militants.
    30:20 the council was made up from green supporters except for Lyman Beesbury, so they were not deeply torn. Likewise we don't know if Criston Cole killed him.
    32:50 Nope Luk is not Aemonds cousin but nephew. I mean you have the family tree right there. And why does Daeron have such a magnificent beard. He died when he was like fresh 16. Gosh the boy drunk some milk🥛.
    33:18 Her sons were not Targaryens but Velaryons. They are sons of Laenor Velaryon.
    33:28 Rhaenys isnt a sister of Viserys. Rhaenys is a daughter of Aemon and Viserys is a son of Baelon.
    33:55 Is this true? Aegon did not have a majority of noble houses supporting him. It was the opposite I would say. Aegon from the start had like only Lannisters, Hightowers and what... Brackens? Vances of Atranta? Does it sound like a majority?
    36:39 The Riverlords didn't join bc Harrenhal was conquered. They joined bc they remembered their oaths of loyalty towards Rhaenyra. They just used Harrenhal as their base, but it was not the reason for them joining. Also, the Tullys stayed neutral in this period and for quite some time, but the map shows them black already. Also, most of the Crownlands joined Rhaenyra. Basically Aegon had just Kings Landing.
    39:19 Did you just said Triosh instead of Tyrosh? And why is there a black dragon atop Sunspear? The Dorne was neutral for the entire war.
    42:00 These people were just from Dragonstone and Driftmark, bc of their Valyrian blood due to the Targaryens practicing the custom of first night. So the animation of them appearing from all of Westeros is wrong.
    44:10 The map is wrong. The Triarchy split their fleet in half. The southern attack pushed as far as Driftmark and they raided the island. So the battle happened on and near the island of Driftmark. When there is not enough material for a battle you add non canon things. When there is a pretty detailed battle description, you ignore it.
    45:00 Wrong. Tom and Rowan were in the same army and they were going from the north. The another army coming from the south was under Tarly, Beesbury and Costayne.
    Uff... Also prince Daeron did not came from Kings Landing. He was in Oldtown as a squire for Lord Hightower for many years.
    46:10 these battles were not triumphs for the Lannisters. At the Red fork they were defeated on third occasions by lord Vance before finally breaching the defenses. They also lost their lord/general. Victory sure, but triumph?
    46:40 Roddy Dustin was just a lord, why call him a warlord?
    48:30 lol Dalton Greyjoy joined the blacks and raided green territory in the Westerlands. So why is the map showing him raiding black territories in the Riverlands? 😅
    52:15 ehmm... no. Nettles wasn't even in KL with Addam she was with Daemon in Maidenpool hunting for Aemond. They didn't escaped together. So why call them a pair?
    55:40 Ambushed by Addam with a large Riverlord army yet they are never mentioned. Also Ulf the White didn't die in the battle. He was drunk during it. He was then killed later by the greens themselves.
    57:10 the army of blacks arrived from the north from kingsroad, not from the west. Also only Riverlords defeated the Baratheon host. Cregan Stark was days behind them.
    1:02:40 So you said he was crowned in the Red keep but the video is showing Dragonstone.
    1:04:03 You showed Dorne on the map joining the Seven kingdoms. Why is like half of the Reach including Oldtown and the Arbor also joining now. They were part of it from the beginning. Or did your map maker thought this is also part of Dorne?
    1:05:25
    Aegor "Bittersweet"? 🤣 That one broke me btw. Also Quentyn Ball wasn't Aegons bastard I think.
    Please all spam 🤓 under this comment. Bye gonna watch the bloody show now I think it aired finally...

  • @chiyosake
    @chiyosake Год назад +6

    Man, I love the editing here and how the video presents the strategy and the players involved in these battles.
    Well done, WnW.

  • @soso694
    @soso694 Год назад +1

    This is a great video for studying battle strategies, my goodness!

  • @jimgolfos9879
    @jimgolfos9879 Год назад +1

    Great Job Guys and Gals on this Series Topic! Thank You!

  • @AB-gk8cs
    @AB-gk8cs Год назад +5

    Good work and excellent art work - allthough I would say, the history of house Targaryon is to much for one video (even such a long one). It would be even better, if you had concentrated the video only on the Dance of Dragons (and annother video for the conquest, one for the Dornish war, one for the Blackfyre rebellion etc.).

  • @williamboadu6188
    @williamboadu6188 Год назад +5

    a vivid account of the Targaryens. I think the greens (lead by Lord Otto) is the cause of the doom of this noble and fearfull house. Greediness all needed to bring this house on it knees

  • @lizstimson859
    @lizstimson859 Год назад +1

    This was awesome. Thank you 🥰

  • @ginshivers5868
    @ginshivers5868 Год назад +1

    Amazing way of presentation 🖤🖤🖤

  • @alberto2287
    @alberto2287 Год назад +5

    The reason they never found Daemon is simple: the TARDIS came for him and took him to new adventures

  • @giod6266
    @giod6266 Год назад +11

    This was really good and detailed video, thanks! But I should not have watched it, especially now when House of the dragon tv show just started. I just couldn't resist :)

    • @alfieingrouille1528
      @alfieingrouille1528 Год назад

      You should read the fire and blood book

    • @giod6266
      @giod6266 Год назад

      @@alfieingrouille1528 I have red first three books, lost kinda interest after tv show. But I may continue reading..

    • @alfieingrouille1528
      @alfieingrouille1528 Год назад

      @@giod6266 but with fire and blood you can read it on its own you don't have to read any other books it's self contained

  • @nickfeder
    @nickfeder Год назад +2

    NGL I've watched this like eight times. Well done.

  • @lomaudit9674
    @lomaudit9674 3 месяца назад +1

    All this came from one mans head.... that's incredible. Truly astonishing.

  • @caveatlector1591
    @caveatlector1591 Год назад +4

    Thank you for this. This is so well done!

  • @Vantoris
    @Vantoris Год назад +46

    You Lads are handsome rember that if nooone told yoy recently

  • @Epicsandmore24
    @Epicsandmore24 Год назад +1

    I can watch this over and over again

  • @courtneorona7794
    @courtneorona7794 10 месяцев назад

    I learned so much from this. Thank you!

  • @hugohernandez610
    @hugohernandez610 Год назад +3

    Aegon did see the dornish fall, but he didn’t get to bring them down himself. THE QUEEN OF DORN REMAINED UNBOWED, UNBENT, UNBROKEN !! Then died of old age

    • @tomz5704
      @tomz5704 Год назад

      Kinda like Elizabeth