Alibaba Break-up Q&A Highlights! | BABA & HK:9988 Stock

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  • Опубликовано: 17 сен 2024

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  • @LearningWithAnishSrinivas
    @LearningWithAnishSrinivas Год назад +2

    That answered most of my questions that I had from your previous video. Thank you Tom :)

  • @siggiAg86
    @siggiAg86 Год назад +3

    Great summary Tom. Btw I got an Alibaba ad while I watched😂

  • @robinwagstaff7807
    @robinwagstaff7807 Год назад +1

    The book the Outsiders describes these decentralized models as a cornerstone of the best CEOs. Bill Sturitz had a chapter in the book where he used Spin offs to increase shareholder value when he felt a business line was not getting the value it deserved.

  • @_cipriangg_
    @_cipriangg_ Год назад +1

    Thank you❤

  • @FanOfSkribbly
    @FanOfSkribbly Год назад +1

    Really appreciate your BABA updates!
    You still powerlifting?

  • @dq9405
    @dq9405 Год назад +2

    Great fucking cover man. Always love watching your videos. You were super inspiring to become as I started to learn about value investing. I hope to always find your videos and continue to watch them for a loooong time!
    Keep up the great and awesome work!

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  • @benjaminwhite2156
    @benjaminwhite2156 Год назад +2

    I think in the short term it will generate good value for shareholders so on a CAGR basis it might be better. However the separation of the businesses allows them to actively decide whether to work and synergies with other alibaba subsidiaries and if they chose not to synergise then it’s a sign some subsidiaries aren’t competitive enough or bad management could decide to not synergise and degrade alibabas competitive advantage

  • @Mesozoic_mammal
    @Mesozoic_mammal Год назад +2

    Why would the units need to raise capital and IPO? Alibaba was buying back shares massively.

  • @hristolakov3563
    @hristolakov3563 Год назад +4

    The only incentive i can think of about doing it is actually selling some of their stake in a shitty business to the public.
    Maybe lowering the antimonopoly oversight could be another one.
    To me everything else sounds like pretty much mumbo-jumbo. Outside capital, ipo, why is that needed? It does not change anything. BABA can raise capital and borrow as much as we can imagine, perhaps at better rates and price, so it makes no sense to think that this will create more value.
    Maybe selling the media business to the public will "Create" value for the shareholder and rob the public, who knows.

    • @InvestingwithTom
      @InvestingwithTom  Год назад +2

      I agree with a huge amount of what you've said. Time will tell how it plays out!

  • @andrewkiesow3205
    @andrewkiesow3205 Год назад +2

    Any thoughts on if existing shareholders could see an ownership % dilution once these business units start raising more capital via IPOs?

    • @daveinvests2671
      @daveinvests2671 Год назад

      Existing shareholders will own the holding company. IPOs mean the holding company will dilute it's shares in exchange for cash which they will either reinvest or return to shareholders

  • @tiggertubs7152
    @tiggertubs7152 Год назад +2

    China is u investable

  • @telmeboutit
    @telmeboutit Год назад +1

    How will it works from a tax prospective. Will the money making businesses now have to pay taxes on all profits and the money losing businesses will now have to dilute or take on leverage to sustaine themselves? If that happens then I don't see the value creation other than maybe higher stock price because they are going to be valued seperatly (not real value creation). Most conglomerates create alot of value simply by the fact that capital can move from one business to the next tax free.

  • @investidorpobre2303
    @investidorpobre2303 Год назад

    Soube ia much better! Good job

  • @JaPoSkipper
    @JaPoSkipper Год назад +1

    It seems funny to me that on the last video customer was first... now employees had become first thing to focus on ....

    • @InvestingwithTom
      @InvestingwithTom  Год назад

      Correction - customer first! I think the translator struggled with that one on the call haha

  • @soulesailor
    @soulesailor Год назад

    so what is going to happen to my shares if they have all these new IPOs of the different departments?

    • @InvestingwithTom
      @InvestingwithTom  Год назад +2

      Time will tell - I suspect either BABA holders will receive shares in the other companies when/if IPOs happen, or you'll simply retain the BABA shares and the holding company will be a controlling shareholder in each unit. We should get more clarity as time goes on.

    • @jarredwoolis4929
      @jarredwoolis4929 Год назад

      Your shares are for the holding company, which will wholly own or part own the other businesses. The cash produced from the IPOs will go back to the holding company

    • @jackpotter7317
      @jackpotter7317 Год назад

      ​@JSW the third the cash from the IPO likely won't go back to the holding company. Each company will be in charge of their own finances and all (apart from maybe alibaba cloud) are loss making so will need the money generated from IPO

  • @Ljcoleslaw
    @Ljcoleslaw Год назад

    This whole charade is simply how they give up on their underperforming business units. They will sell down their shares in the local consumer services and digital media businesses at a minimum, while retaining taobao and cloud.
    They are overly focused on perceptions at alibaba. They don’t want to sell off entire business units all at once. That would be an unacceptable admission of massive failure from management. They ‘spawned’ a lot of businesses, but they all have low fundamental returns and many attract negative attention from regulators.
    This approach lets them frame their failure as a good thing. In reality, it’s just management’s escape hatch on some really bad investments they should not have made in the first place.

  • @danienishanov738
    @danienishanov738 Год назад

    Any ideas about the CCP's views on the whole thing?

    • @christiantretter4605
      @christiantretter4605 Год назад +1

      They were probably who suggested it. I feel like they would approve of a monopoly being split up, since they would be less of a threat

    • @MrPookiexL3oi
      @MrPookiexL3oi Год назад

      CCP controls everything in CHINA

  • @index516
    @index516 Год назад

    Way too many ads brother

    • @InvestingwithTom
      @InvestingwithTom  Год назад

      Apologies, just ran with the RUclips automatic placements for this one

    • @index516
      @index516 Год назад

      @@InvestingwithTom It must be on my side. These 45 minute advertisements disguised as financial podcasts are really lame. I walk into a different room and I'm wonder what I'm watching and have to skip.

  • @cookiejar01
    @cookiejar01 Год назад +1

    Why own the Chinese Amazon, when the real Amazon is on sale? Better company, higher potential returns and no political risk!

    • @oreln640
      @oreln640 Год назад

      Not that big of a sale

    • @useyourbrain1232
      @useyourbrain1232 Год назад

      The real Amazon does not make enough profits to justify its price