Comparing 5 Generations of Intel i7 Processors! 12700K vs 11700K vs 10700K vs 9700K vs 8700K
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- Опубликовано: 3 июл 2024
- I’ve compared the last 5 generations of Intel i7 processors in games and applications so you can see if it’s time to upgrade your CPU or save money buying an older model! Check prices 👇
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5 Generation Intel i7 Comparison Timestamps
0:00 Intro
0:10 CPU Spec Differences
0:32 Test PC
1:02 Windows 11
1:26 Cinebench R23
2:07 Linux Kernel Compilation
2:39 Blender Open Data
3:05 V-Ray
3:24 Corona Renderer
3:50 Handbrake
4:11 Adobe Premiere
4:25 DaVinci Resolve
4:40 Adobe Photoshop
4:58 Microsoft Office (Word/Excel/PowerPoint/Outlook)
5:11 7-Zip Compression & Decompression
5:28 AES Encryption & Decryption
5:41 GeekBench
5:49 9700K vs 8700K - All Application Differences
6:15 10700K vs 9700K - All Application Differences
6:30 11700K vs 10700K - All Application Differences
6:43 12700K vs 11700K - All Application Differences
7:15 12700K vs 8700K - All Application Differences
7:30 12700K vs 9700K - All Application Differences
7:38 12700K vs 10700K - All Application Differences
7:53 Power Draw
8:21 Temperatures
8:37 12th Gen CPU Size Changes & Coolers
8:59 Far Cry 6
9:42 Cyberpunk 2077
10:17 Red Dead Redemption 2
10:52 Microsoft Flight Simulator
11:18 Watch Dogs Legion
11:38 Control
12:01 Rainbow Six Siege
12:39 Assassin’s Creed Valhalla
12:57 F1 2021
13:16 Shadow of the Tomb Raider
13:43 10 Game Average FPS
14:25 Cost Per Frame Value
15:08 Cost Per Cinebench Point
15:31 Conclusion - Which Intel i7?
This i7 comparison includes the following old vs new configurations:
8700K vs 12700K
9700K vs 12700K
10700K vs 12700K
11700K vs 12700K
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I've also done the same 5 generational comparison with i5 here: ruclips.net/video/Xic6Sfq9veY/видео.html
All testing here was done at stock, no MCE or OC or anything, other than XMP profile on the memory as mentioned.
Amazing!
You are the most underrated PC related channel.
You deserve 10M subs
@Jarrod’sTech Please make a power consumption/battery life test of laptop Intel processors. I am choosing between a 100wh 7 gen laptop and a 60wh 11 gen laptop. Currently there is no info on this topic. Thanks!
Great video and exactly what I was wondering. I have an 8700k and was wondering if it was time to upgrade. I think I’ll wait an see what the new cpus look like next year.
@@mwdavis77 You're in for a treat, small cores are getting doubled.
This is by far the best analysis of performance improvements over time. Great Job Jarrod!
It's proof that you don't need a new cpu evey time you upgrade your gpu
This analysis is bad because no testing with core overclock (at 5.0ghz all cores for example)and no testing in complete cpu bottleneck situations. Also no testing with gpus other than 3090, for example 3070, which is more suitable for 1080p/1440p resolutions.
this is exactly the kinds of videos i love seeing. proper indepth comparisons without just "jumping to the punchline". I really love this channel.
Man I just started watching but your timestamps are SOOO useful! Often I come back to your videos to check some aspect or one specific device and it's so awesome to be able to find it easily. I really appreciate it, I started to expect and complain if other creators don't do it. :)
I think people generally upgrade every 5-6 years so this is a very useful video!
I'm using a 8700K + 1060 combo for 5 years now. For 1080P gaming, even the latest titles cause no issues. They are pretty playable in High - Max settings. The only missing feature is Ray Tracing, which I'm not sure if it is even worth. Lads with 3060s tell me that they keep it turned off. Donno...
I’m personally not a fan of DLSS (even 2.0 with its improvements over 1.0) as for my eyes it seems to put a little bit of smearing over the image and I also personally don’t like that it has to be paired with TAA for the most part. I’d rather just play at native resolution or deal with the aliasing at lower resolutions.
@@RecklessTurtle ray tracing is just for taking screenshots while playing i always keep it off .. on the other hand DLSS is the main thing with rtx cards .. i always play 1440p dlss (RTX 3070)
@@RecklessTurtle Seems like a slightly odd combo even for 2017, with a higher end CPU and a mid range GPU, but if you're happy with it that's all that matters. Perhaps gaming isn't your primary use for the system? Anyway you upgrade when you're ready new GPU's are on the way sometime next year after all, assuming there'll be any stock available of course.
@@justbecause3187 When I bought the laptop, RTX 20 series had just been launched. If I had the budget, I would have gone the 20XX route but they were too expensive, so I opted for 1 Gen older model. But yeah, I don't yearn for the max FPS on every game and be a competitive. I game leisurely and this combo works just fine. Any combo that gives me 30+FPS with High graphics is good enough for me.
One of the best CPU generation comparison videos I have seen so far. Super work. Subscribed :)
Thank you so much for this! Super helpful comparison.
Dude, what a FANTASTIC work. Great video.
No trash talking , straight to the point .I love your videos man .it's full of data that we want to know. Love you Jarrod 😍
This is an incredibly useful video!
Really well put together dude, great job!
Just recently found your channel while hunting laptop reviews. Managed to pick one up in the BF sales. Got the Legion 5, however was only able to get the 1650, 8GB RAM, Ryzen model due to finance constraints. The 3060 was about twice the price here in the UK. Wanted to do some really basic video editing to start to learn it. After watching your upgrade video i have went and got some extra RAM for it. Your reviews certainly helped. Thanks. For what its worth you gained another sub!
Happy to help, hope it goes well!
Great comparison, enjoyed this one! See that you have an i5 video coming up next week. Any plans for an AMD version of this? 1600x/2600x/3600x/5600x?
Also include the last midrange FX CPU just for reference.
@@gurjindersingh3843 bro I don't wanna watch a massacre
@@faranocks oooh I do, I had an fx 6300 as a starter cpu last year
@@gurjindersingh3843 The FX cpus are so bad they bottleneck even gtx 1050 and i'm not even joking but it will be hillarious to see a video like that
@@adrianbaraboiu1607 We deserve to know, but more importantly AMD deserves to have their improvements highlighted.
I’ve been looking forever for a vid like this. Thank you
Glad I could help
Such a good and detailed analysis, good job
that helped a lot , I was thinking of an upgrade but after I saw the difference its not worth selling my 9700K because I'm playing at 1440p .
thanks a lot.
In single threaded task the 9700k is still a beast.
👍
Even a 8700k isn't worth upgrading at 1440p or 4k. I have a 6700k and need a upgrade since I just got a 3080.
I was thinking the same, going to keep my 9700k for a while longer.
@@Allhype214 Team 9700k going strong...
Great content. While I work off my machine, the only thing that pushes it is gaming at 1440p, so I think this shows me I'm safe to hold on to the 9700k for another gen or two. Very much appreciated.
Really nice work!!!
amazing work and effort done. highly appreciated.
Another mega test compilation, awesome work. Ya improvements are constant but not enough to justify upgrades from one gen to the immediate next one, rather wait two or three gen to upgrade provided you actually notice the lag and rather prioritise upgrading gpu for more significant gaming improvements
Very informative and clear video, I was thinking of taking the plunge and doing some upgrading as my almost 10 year old 700w PSU won't be able to handle a 3080. I was going to splurge and upgrade to 12th gen. But after watching this, I'm going to get a new PSU, new PC Case and put the rest towards a 3080. Looks like my 9700k is more than adequate for 1440p for some time to come.
i also stay with my 9700k, its paired with a 3070 strix, playing 2K, no problems at all, my cpu is sleeping, still a beast
I'm running a 6700k with a 7900XT at 1440/60 fps and it's never bound by anything. I managed to get it to be GPU bound once at 190 fps in a benchmark. The highest I've seen my CPU go is 60% in Hogwarts Legacy. It's sad because I actually want to upgrade but there's no benefit until 2025. I will probably wait and grab a 7800x3d around that time.
Jarrod, this is great stuff !
It's like a Xmas gift by itself !
Thx for the video N benchmarks !
Brilliant video with very clear charts and spot on summary
Best comparisons are from Jarrod, period.
Great job, can only imagine what an immense job this was.
Haven't seen anyone else do a direct comparison like this.. much appreciated. I especially appreciate the gaming benchmarks at 2 different resolutions, the results are very informative and helped me confirm my decision to prioritize my GPU upgrade over CPU. Thank you for this video.
This is a brilliant analysis and exactly what I was looking for! Subscribed. I hope you continue doing this form of testing, as I'll be sitting on my 10700k until I see some compelling reasons to upgrade for gaming at 1600p ultrawide resolutions.
I went from the 7700k to the 11700k right after they announced the 12th gen processors. Why would I do such a thing? For starters the 11700k went from 400 to 320 usd, and I didn't have to replace my ram or AIO. After experiencing the DDR3 to DDR4 transition, I remembered the pricing and limited availability, and during that time the market was far more stable. I think I made the right call and from these charts the 11700k(at 320USD) was a damn good upgrade. Great Video!
Nicely done. Looks like 10th gen are the best offer at the moment unless you need every last bit of performance ...
And who really needs that. No one!! Ppl think they do, but unless you're doing finance related ish, you won't need that extra boost!
10700K is 210 on Microcenter.
Go for an i5 12600K with DDR4 setup it would be much better with a normal cooler
@@Amorousstake4 I prefer the i7, has 8 high perfomance cores. And for someone upgrading from a quad core like a 4790K, 7700K or 6700K is better.
@@saricubra2867 7700k is getting older so atleast one should think of an i5 10400
Amazing video! Thanks!
Incredible analysis!! So informative and useful. Thank you very much!
I've been waiting for someone to finally revisit the 9700K, thank you Jarrod.
Still a beast!
@@Abdelja18 still rocking it ☺️, going to upgrade next year
No hyperthreads, no problems 💪
I finally upgraded to the i7 12700k from my old i7 7700k. The old i7 was a beast for a long time, but all those extra cores/threads of the newer i7 are so nice to have. Also upgraded from my 1080 FE to a 3080ti FE
Big improvement there I bet!
😵Holy Moly bruh🔥
I have 9900KS and it's still not worth upgrading to new 14900K because of power inefficiency. 7850X3D would be better choice for upgrading
This video is SO good! Cheers man, excellent job!
Was waiting for this thanks
could you please also do this with the i5's? since there is quite a difference between the two. it would be awesome to see how the lower end of the spectrum stack up against the mid-high range i7's.
love my 10700k, so easy to OC too, super stable at 5ghz. Even went to 5.1 for a while without any problems.
I was thinking about doin that. You just amde my decision a little easier now lol
Awesome work. I have been watching your channel for the last few days. You are doing an excellent job.
Amazing work! Thanks
Excellent video! I'm on 8700k and considering upgrading, Perfect video for me ;) Maybe sometime next year if gpus become more reasonably available, I might do a complete system overhaul.
GPU become more reasonably available in 2022 ? Sorry man but i don't think so at all... Normal prices never come back
@@romainprovost7164 They definetely will. Like they did in 2018.
As for 8700k. You can add at least 20% to its results if you overclock it. Probably closer to 30%. Because stock clocks are pathetic (3700Mhz) So the difference would not be as drastic. Especially in games. But its a good upgrade nevertheless.
@@romainprovost7164 Depends what normal prices are in ur opinion.
The rtx 3000 Series would normally be cheaper than the rtx 2000 was, will they drop to that price? I dont think so.
But the prices are already dropping and will drop further.
But the prices will stay 20-30% higher for years than before the shortage (Becaue the shortage wont disappear in 2022 and 2023)
After the shortage the prices could drop extrem, if Intel, AMD, NVIDA have 2 compete with each other, and innosilicon is trying to get into the GPU marktet.
So i think in 2025 the situation will be much better than today.
If the supplier (for waver etc) can fullfill the demand the prices could drop even to prices 10years ago, Cloudgaming could also cause a drop.
@@Andisepp Si i will wait until 2025 :)
Great comparison of real performance increases gen over gen. Upgrading to 12th gen for production workloads is very good but for gaming, upgrading from 8th and 9th gen is worthwhile...but stick with 10th and 11th for gaming at 1440p and above..Though the 8700K is still a great CPU, loved mine and overclocks very well especially delidded!
Do you think it's worth upgrading the 8400 to a used 8700k for $230 in order to sit on it for another 2-3 years? or to build a completely new system on the 12th generation for $350+? 8400 is not enough to work with 3d
@Jonathan Hoffman As a result, my whole upgrade turned into a move to a new platform 12600k / Z690 + RTX 3070😅
Thanx for the hard work!
Brilliant analysis. You cover everything that’s important. Well done.
Been rocking my 10700k in my rig for a little over a year now and im loving it.
Temps always stay at about 65 under max load.
yeah man you have atleast 4 years left and that's before overclocking the cpu so chill this vid to me was the people from 8th gen and lower i'm on 4th gen still and wanted an i7 8700 setup then boom 12th gen made think shit sell my current pc and get 12th gen or new ryzens in 2022.
Av been rocking my 9700k for nearly 2 years and still loving it, when u get a 3080, going to slap it in and upgrade in around 1/2 years 😉
@@erikbritz8095 4? This dude is set for at least 6 years, OC to 5.1 ghz and you get 620 pts of single core on cpuz, basically the same as the top 5xxxx ryzens.
I overclocked my 10700k to 5.1 ghz but only with hyperthreading off. With it on I get around 4.9 ghz. I only overclocked for DCS World
@@airgunner8371 then you did it wrong. Every 10700k can at least reach 5ghz. HT or not.
Thanks, very useful and very well made video, i have my 9900K @5.3ghz and i play at 1440p so i'm still good.
AMAZING VIDEO!! Thank you Jarrod's Tech!!
You did a great job. The video is really interesting. Thank you.
The 4 year upgrade cycle for PC seems to hold up for general usage. For gaming, maybe 6-7 years for the CPU
Most people just need a storage upgrade. Chrome and word are all io not CPU bound
My 6950x still work fine ,3.5ghz for 10 cores 20threads at 3.5 ghz is still a beast
Thats only true if Windows hold a similar cycle, if windows comes up with windows 12 tomorrow and force only 2yr old cpu to compatible then its an issue
Shouldnt it be the other way round, for general use 6-7 years and 4 years for gaming?
@@DEANluxray its depend,if you use a hedt cpus ,6 7 years is normal but i3 will struggle
I just wanted to know which laptop to get... 38 videos later and I have knowledge and understanding of shit I never cared about. Jarrod you old bastard,.. Im hooked!
i recomendering you buy gigabyte aorus 17x
@@servetozdemir5333 legion 560 will be killing it
Great video as usual, and this time even discovered a new band from your shirt. Excellent!
good work mate
i5-2400 and GTX 550ti.. it still runs games so good enough!
maybe games from 2010 but good luck playing modern games even at 720p with the 550 Ti. gtx 550 ti will deliver you a staggering 14fps on average at 640x480p and lowest settings in RDR2 as a reference
@UCOvjeU4LHs9LJ6YIi0CS7fA holy f*ck u killrd him dude XD
Mmmmm....
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@Ladioz Starcraft II, Age of Empires 4, all Total War series games :D
Сразу видно русский гейминг, суровый и беспощадный
Very nice breakdown I appreciate this.
I'm on a 8700k, 32Gb of DDR4 3600 and M2 drives with a 1080TI pushing a 32 inch Samsung cured 1440p monitor, it runs like a champ but those productivity gains seem to be calling me. Maybe I'll hold out until next fall since I can't get a GPU anyways... been on a list for 10 months!
I've a similar set up, I'm playing in 4k with a 2080, definetly GPU is key for gaming
Oof, I've got a Ryzen 7 5809X and 32 GB DDR4 3600 but a 1050 so only low-setting 1080p gaming for me
A lot of great info here Thanks for doing this.
rly good vid! thx for the work :)
I upgraded from a 8700 to a 12700k. Been loving it so far. Only complaint is how hot it gets.
I am still happy with my 8700K , but i am very surprised by the last cpu , it s a true upgrade !
Great. Thank you for your work and time.
It seems it might finally be time to upgrade my 8700k... or wait for one more year for the P+E core setup to mature a bit.
Great and very informative video!
yes overclock your current setup slightly chill and like me go for 13th gen :p or newer ryzen setups
no its not.. OC 8700K and you have like 2-3 more years.
I went from oc 8086k at 5.3ghz all cores to 9900kf at 5ghz all cores. It wasn't too expensive as the resale on the 8086k was solid and my mobo could do both chips. I cannot* see a reason to go beyond my 9900kf at the moment. I guess it all depends on what u use the PC for. Gaming looks hard to justify the upgrade.
8700K 5 ghz 4.7 ghz cache 4200 CL16 ram with tunned subtimings. No issues at all with 165 hz monitor.
@@club4ghz Exactly man it the i7 8700 and i7 8700K is still solid if you just game.
can't wait for laptop H series version
Thank you very much for the video!
I've been looking for this
Just remember that cpu tests were conducted using RTX 3090. If someone has RTX 3070 or lower the differences should be marginal, even at 1080p.
this is the main takeaway
100% the takeaway.
Did the productivity tests go over your head or something? It would hardly be minimal even with a lower tier gpu, period.
Almost 2x more performance after 5 generations is good. Back during the Intel monopoly days, the difference between 2600k vs 7700k was nowhere near as big lmao
Ikr my 2011 i5 2500s iMac is faster then my i5 8250u hp laptop
oh my god jarrod i love your work
Awesome video. I'm currently running the I7 9700K and will be in the market for an upgrade closer to the holiday season.
Great review. Have a 9900K and primarily game at 4K or 1440P with a 3080- don't really need a 12700K other than I just want it lol
Well 9900k = 10700k so you should be fine
@@PhoenixSky7 I know but I already have ddr5, a z690, cooler, and 12700k on the way.
Great, I got a 9700k + RTX 3070 and I'm playing @ 1440p. Bought the CPU 2 years ago and I'm still pretty happy with it.
No reason why you shouldn't be happy lol. Imagine buying a 350€ cpu only to think its bad 2 years later
@@Avarent01 Well, if you bought a 10th gen I don't think you would be happy by now lol
sell that crap, replace it with a 9900K.
@@Abdelja18 10700K is a good i7, it was the best i7 ever made since 4790K.
Your videos are best in this field and video topics are 🔥👌🔥
great video comparison !!! Great !!!
Thank you! 👍
10th gen was really good, 12th gen is exceptionally good
I have one PC with a i7 9700k and one with a i5 9600k and I love them both. Never had issues, playing, streaming, rendering stuff, it's all super fast. For me there is no reason to upgrade in the next 5+ years even tho the values in this comparison video show that especially the 12. gen is super fast.
9700k is a underrated Beast
Yes but new one are more power hungry . So it’s still cheaper to be on older generations
Hi jarrod, your videos are the best and you deserve much more subs.
KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!😁😁
Perfect Perfect just what i was looking for!!
Currently running a 8700k at 4.7Ghz OC. Seems like the OC makes it still completely viable even compared to the 12th gen
Its wat less stable.. ive upgraded from 8700k to 10700k and than 12700k. Its feels a lot better and less drops and weird stutters what i did had with the 8700k...
@@annagrajczyk1102 Was your 8700k overclocked?
Curious to see the power draw under gaming load and see how well the E-cores lowers the power draw compared to 11th gen.
Der8auer just made a video comparing the 12900K and 5950X in power efficiency during gaming, check it out. The 12900K is quite a bit more efficient than the 5950X while being quite a lot faster in some games. You can also look at igorlabs' FPS per watt data for the 12700K or the 12600K, which are even more efficient than the already-efficient 12900K.
Good video mate
Good analysis, good analytics here, good job man!!!! I will stick with my I7 9th Gen, as I play at 4K in most of my games. Thank you!
This was very helpful. I've got the non k version of the i7 8700 and I've just upgraded to a 6800xt. It looks as though I should be okay to step up to 1440p triple a gaming
This video would've taken ages to make. Thank you
I went from i7 6700K to i7 12700K on DDR4 and the difference is stunning even if comapring to overcloked 6700K to 4.5GHz. I decided that 6 years paid off the value of 6700K and have no regrets.
I'm barely upgrading right now from 6700k to 12700k too..cant wait for my parts to come in
I'm running a 6700k @ 4.8ghz and I'm just looking to upgrade now.. it's become a real bottleneck@ 1440p
Thank you for the great comparison!
No problem, thanks for watching!
Great video and very informative. I would say unless you have a higher than 120hz monitor its probably not worth upgrading for any of the cpus even at 1080p if its only for gaming. Would have been interesting seeing the 2nd hand prices and the value there in. Picking up a cheap i7-10700k and motherboard and wait a couple of generations for the big/little architecture and windows 11 to improve is probably worth consideration (particularly if coming from older cpus than on show here).
Would love to see a video like this with AMD, maybe going from the last itteration of Bulldoser all the way up to now.
wanted to upgrade my i7-9700k but I play at 1440p so I changed my mind and gonna save my money!
Nice man! What gpu do you have paired with your 9700k?
@@therostaam2270 RTX3080
Awesome video!! 😎
Great analysis.
Crazy how my 7700k is already 6 generations old. It feels like I got it recently.
Same here Harry, time flies!
I upgraded my 7700k to an I9 10850k recently, actually cost me the same as the 7700k did then. It was worth it, and don't have crazy temp spikes anymore, except running the i910850k in tmp, 100c instantly on a Noctua dh15 😂.
Halo infinite uses 15% of the new cpu, never goes past 70c on the most taxing games, idles at 27-30 c in Windows high performance power mode.
Im on i5 760 oced to 3.8ghz here guys...
I just built a system about a week ago and was seriously considering going with an 8700K. This video made me SOOOOOO glad I went with a 12700K instead.
Yeah the 8700k is starting to show its age, that 12700k will probably be all you need for atleast 5 years.
why were you seriously considering a 5 year old cpu
@@tyre1337 I'm not. As I said, I already got the 12700K
@@KML3rd the 12700k will last 10 years easy. You won’t be needing more then a 12 core processor in only 10 years🤣
@@darkhaven9119the same I was thinking. New Games are running best on 8c/16t so no need to upgrade at all on more cores if it’s just in gaming case. I’m on 6700k but I started to fell struggles a bit in newer titles.
Great video. I do wish that you had shown power draw when gaming but otherwise great video!
jarrod you don't know how many times i've referenced this video already, it's super helpful
Glad to hear it!
i still don't see the need to upgrade my 8700k OC @5ghz with rtx 3080
Nah your good m8 I got the same setup there and it worked good it does bottle neck a bit but only fps wise, no stutters or anything bad like that just lower frames 👍🏼
Good roundup, especially since all of these are capable of going up to Windows 11 if you want to and anything before is officially not supported.
Despite all the infinity 14nm+++++++ gaming performance memes (at the expense of more power), there were some genuine IPC gains for productivity albeit nothing as drastic as the huge shift on Alder Lake when Intel finally hit both their "ancient" Tik and Tok cycle at once.
9700k performs better than 8700k because it has 2 more physical cores. 10th gen performs better than 9th gen because of more cache and 11th gen has basically the same performance as 10th gen... 12th gen is finally a bigger improvement.. . so there was no real IPC gain made to the architecture itself. they literally just increased clockspeed and cache amount. amd will do the same with ryzen v cache soon..
@@SweatyFeetGirl no, 11th gen actually has ipc improvement even with clockspeed decrease over 10th gen
@@muhammadazissetiabudi1228 yea we can see how much more ipc the 11th gen has when it scores lower fps in gaming in many titles xD gamers nexus didnt call the 11700k a waste of sand for no reason.
@@SweatyFeetGirl i mean for aplication not only games, even 12 gen didn't give you a massive jump in fps. Gn talking 11 th gen i7 waste of sand for their msrp. Look at the current price before amd cut their 5800x. You can have 11700f for a less money than 5600x
@@muhammadazissetiabudi1228 5800x only got cut in USA , nowhere else.
The 11700f is 50$ more expensive than the 5600x where i live.
Came here for one thing, and got the answer I need and hoped for! Thank you!
Glad I could help!
Wow, this is one of the best CPU and GPU comparison channels on the RUclips. I'm new to your channel, but I'm hooked. You're like computer crack. Subbing for the long-haul, Friendo.
8700k no problem in all games and programs.
8700k has a lot better oc potencial. 9700k better only in games like minecraft or city skylines...
Amazing! I still use an 8700K and that's very compelling for me to get a 12700K seeing a 2x perf boost! However I'm not interested in Windows 11 yet and I think I will wait for future products too. I'm dissatisfied with the gaming perf tho.
Coming from 4790 it was tempting as well. It gives around 3x performance boost, although I think of using this PC for few more years
The human has a hard time observing the difference from 10 milliseconds from 20 milliseconds ! Save your money as there are big hardware changes coming in the next 3 years that will make 12th gen obsolete.
@@RizalBoon I jumped from a 4790 to an 8700K
@@Garth2011 that's what im doing lol
@@Garth2011 I'm sorry, what?
If you're talking about gaming - 20ms is 50fps and 10ms is 100fps.
Even 50fps>60fps (20ms>16.6ms) is quite noticable, let alone 20ms>10ms or 50fps>100fps.
Surely you weren't talking about gaming and i just misunderstood..
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Upgrading from my 8700 (non-k) to a 12700k this month. I'm pretty stoked to see the improvements! :D
I went from a 9600k to a 12600k. The improvement is absolutely noticeable. I never thought I would notice the lack of hyper-threading but I did. 12600k, purrs like a kitten, temps are the same or lower... and Minecraft runs better than ever (with mods). It won't be a night & day sitch, like if you went from a i5-3470 to an i5-9600K (i did this), more like a noon to afternoon difference but definitely noticeable and welcome. Hope you love the 12700k. BTW, 13th gen will be out next year. It should see some improvements in comparison to the 12600k. I'm thinking of buying the 13600k or 13700k and donating the 12600k just to be on the bleeding edge.
@@theramblingmillennial3770 Did you get big fps improvements in yout games? I'm upgrading from 3770k to 12700k in a few weeks. I can play every new game quite fine due to my 1080 but i get like fps drops to 5 or 1 fps in World of Warcraft in some fighting situations took me a while to dig around i found out my card throttles to 1 watt usage at that time so i figured it has to be the cpu which is bottlenecking the gpu although i never go above 70% usage. That's the main reason why i upgrade. When i can't even play my maingame smoothly anymore its def. the time to upgrade.
@@williehrmann I didn't necessarily gain huge improvements as far as average FPS but I did gain frame consistency. It's ridiculous how much consistent it is now. I hadn't noticed any frame drops in the games I play since the upgrade. I can say with all honesty, it will be night and day for you since you're coming from a 3rd gen though. Plus I play @ 1440p, so there has been a definite improvement from 9th gen to 12th. I will say that I so missed my 3rd gen PC though. I did all sorts of experiments with it. Don't get rid of the 3770k though. Turn it into a hackintosh station or make it a server with unRAID, freenas, promox, or something similar. It will still be useful for at least a few more generations.
I’ve got a system with a 10700K running rock solid at 5.3 GHz with a 3080 ti at 1440p, and was looking at upgrading to a 12th gen, but man - the advantages are sooo small in gaming.
Yea don't do it. Wait at least another generation so that software/games are developed to utilize ddr5 better as well. As long as you keep your gpu at its limits then the cpu choice will hardly matter at all. Cost in general in a year or so will also be far better than current prices for a 12th gen system with new mobo and ddr5 scalper prices :s