I agree, such an excellent question. Really insightful, because that truly is an incredibly unique perspective Big Show has; spanning the three major promotions of the past few decades. Very sharp of him to pick up on that and ask him about it (really great answer from Show, as well👍)
The main takeaway here is, Bischoff liked to spend money that wasn't his, Vince did whatever he wanted whether you liked him or not and TK wants to be liked by his employees lol
I always find it interesting that people will talk about how Vince will have things mapped out for the next year, but then we also hear about how he's constantly changing the booking hours before the show. Like, ok great, you have a road map of what we're doing for the next 6-12 months. But if you're just going to constantly change that road map, it doesn't really count. That plan means nothing if he can't stick to it.
@@twiztedclown because Cody winning would have done what exactly? He wins the title and the momentum slows down as it has with every single babyface before him. Prolonging the chase has been very beneficial to him, stinky mark.
@@twiztedclown I take it as the sale/merger had a hand in it. Endeavor would want a known name being the focal point not someone who next to no one outside of wrestling knows
You can have a long term plan and move things around while still achieving that long term plan. It's like tv shows that have mini plots in the overall plot of the show. x-files is a good example of that with the monster of the week episodes and then the long term mulder/sister/ufo abduction thing.
So, what I'm taking away is: Vince: "Mm, good idea pal, but we're doing it my way." Tony: "Thank you for showing up." Eric: "We got plans, we'll put you in the nWo."
@@adamled99 This. Anyone who blames Eric is uneducated when it comes to that entire situation. He didn't have total control like Vince did. He had higher ups that constantly meddled in WCW and made his job difficult. Thunder is a great example. Nitro going 3 hours, Standards and Practices.. etc.
Right? 😂 Hey, who knows… Maybe Vince really *does* make plans that far out, and he just coincidentally always ends up tearing them up when the night to enact ‘em comes around 🤣
Thats because he is an old senile, depraved, doofus with issues- who can no longer see the writing on the wall. Vince lives on the surplus rainchecks of the business he built to almost run itself in automation so much that he is no longer concerned with real growth both in profits and the qualify of the product. The old worn man no longer has it and hes become complacent, boring and lives in a comfort zone. He has become worst than the man he once hated- Ted Turner.
@@POWERHOUSEFiteClub I don't think it's that modern. Remember why Austin walked out? Because he found out the day of or day before that he was going to job to Brock on Raw.
It's funny to me, when people in the industry have something even remotely nice to say about Vince, the internet calls it complete bullshit, as if they were there working.
Vince comes across as a boss you don't want to mess with. Tony comes across as a fun boss, the type that organises a wild office Xmas part in a comedy movie.
Say what you want about Vince but wrestling is where its at now, because of him. Far from a fan of his but im mature enough to think with my head and not emotion. Made wrestling relevant for the last 30 + years.
Paul is definitely a legend, icon and a personal childhood favorite. Have had the privilege of meeting the man twice and seeing him wrestle several times. Anyone on that roster not taking the time to approach people like him, Mark Henry and Jim Ross with the utmost respect and questions are sorely missing out.
funny thing is people in the comments who never owned or ran a wrestling promotion, never personally met with or spent time with Vince or Tony or Bischoff, and are jumping to conclusions on why Vince is a better boss and tony is just everybody's friend. first Vince is almost twice the age of tony, Vince grew up in a wrestling promotion business of father, Vince has decades of experience at hand, it is not odd that he might be better than tony at running the business, . People also need to understand no matter how friendly or people first guy tony is , he is still the boss, holds all the cards in his hand as the owner, you have seen just now that he fired CM punk for the backstage altercation, at the end of the day he call the shots, and in a few years he will get the experience aspect too.
@@al5306 Aaah...makes sense. VKM had yearlong character arcs for his wrestlers and rewrote weekly shows multiple times up until showtime is NOT, in fact, contradictory. He had yearly plans for all his wrestlers EXCEPT for the ones he didn't have yearly plans for...and those are the people he decided at showtime what to do with. I was skeptical at first; but the way you described it is entirely logical and clears everything up. Good lookin out, Bruce!
@@dangerousdays2052 I mean, that's the way it is. You'd have a point if WWE had no long term stories before he stepped down, but they did. I never said he had plans for everyone. I also never said he didn't rip up scripts before the shows either. I'm saying he's not going to plan things out for a long time and pitch it all in the trash 5 minutes before the show. He might come up with a different angle or match to further that long term story 5 minutes before the show. Again, if they didn't have any long term stories, you guys would have a point, but they had so you don't. You could also talk like a grown adult, bud.
It is possible that this interview happened before Punk's return in 2021. You'll soon realize that some interviews are taken years before they are officially released on their channel.
3:00 "The inmates aren't running the prison" is a very interesting choice of words there. Given this interview is from 2021 Big Show was wrong even back then and very wrong now.
@@k.t.1641 If he has no experience, why is he doing it in the first place. He can afford to hire more experienced people to run things. The fact that he doesn't shows you where his priorities are.
"The inmates aren't running the prision, and make no mistake about it, Tony's in charge..." is by far, the biggest lie the Big Show has ever told. I wonder how much Tony's paying him NOT to tell the truth?
Hes not wrong. Vince runs things the way he wants and thats okay. Its his company. Tony is the type of business man that listens and thats also okay and provides a healthier work environment to be in but its like Big Show said; some people like Eric Bischoff and Chris Jericho knew how to change Vincent's mind about things and some people weren't.
big show was a yes man who did what they wanted , even trashing wrestlers like bret who had grievances to move up the ladder and now he’s the one with grievances
Yeah. Vince built his empire from the ground up. Tony was able to just jump into the game due to his fathers cash. It feels like more of a hobby for him than an actual business.
@@finsfan90 vince was also given a territory from his daddy too , if you don't believe me it was in a 2001 playboy magazine where he opened up about it
@@IlejayWayne He wasn't "given" anything. He took a very regional promotion after BUYING it and made it profitable and national within three years. The kid with a billion+ dollars still can't make AEW's revenue exceed its expenditures.
Show can deny that the inmates don't run it in Aew but that's exactly how it comes across. It shows in every aspect of it. What bothers me about the show, is how they claim to be the anti WWE but it's model is exactly like wwes and they have to mention them or resort to profanity to get any real reaction. Those so called pipe bombs are nothing new. They're just more exaggerated and personalized.
No No all they mean is that Vince changes the little stuff like a random Raw or smackdown Wrestlemainia plans or big PPVs would already be in motion regardless
I love the fact McMahon comes back to WWE wearing a disguise, dyed black hair and a dodgy Moustache, it's like saying, forget the accusations I am a new man now, but WWE will be the same boring shit it has been for years... Even though HHH is trying, we all know who will have the last word…
😂😂😂😂😂. That’s the one thing people don’t get that I get. He does not give in to the people & give them what they want which makes it more funnier when he books at match like Brock vs Omos at WM 😅
He has to be Big Show here because if the title said “Paul Wight”, the video wouldn’t have views 😂😂 Now it makes sense why WWE feels entitled to revenues made by wrestlers using their trademarked WWE names 😂😂
@@NATUR3F33LS The ''Untold" part makes it slightly disingenuous as the things he says about the respective bosses and their visions have already been out there for years at this point. While I get the desire to call it out, I would say that at least the video was about what the title claims it's about.
Funny that everyone he interviews Americans Canadians Europeans all understand him yet you can't I think you need to listen better our learn how to understand simple English language and before somebody says it Scottish language is English language
Tony clearly operates like a leader should. Vince is a demander. Thats why so many people are unhappy working for vince, and why they end up leaving or released for "not performing". A good example was the iconics. They were great entertainment. They knew what they were doing. Vince decided he wanted Peyton as a solo star, they were against it, but vince wanted the square peg in the round hole & blamed the talent for it.
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Who do you think is the greatest promoter and booker of all time? Let us know in the comments.
Me been watching for years ❤
Vince
The greatest booker ever is Jeff Jarrett
(Let me just lay this tasty bait)
Jim crockett vs. Vince was the real question. 😅
Probably more money in clips and people have short attention spans, but you should upload s full interview.
This is probably the best question I’ve ever seen asked in a wrestling interview.. Bravo!
I agree, such an excellent question. Really insightful, because that truly is an incredibly unique perspective Big Show has; spanning the three major promotions of the past few decades. Very sharp of him to pick up on that and ask him about it (really great answer from Show, as well👍)
The main takeaway here is, Bischoff liked to spend money that wasn't his, Vince did whatever he wanted whether you liked him or not and TK wants to be liked by his employees lol
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This is the perfect explanation
I always find it interesting that people will talk about how Vince will have things mapped out for the next year, but then we also hear about how he's constantly changing the booking hours before the show. Like, ok great, you have a road map of what we're doing for the next 6-12 months. But if you're just going to constantly change that road map, it doesn't really count. That plan means nothing if he can't stick to it.
Well I think he just gets a overall idea of what he wants and based off views , crowd reaction or other things he makes little changes as things go
@@BeeSmokeYT well Roman holding the title over cody was definitely a dementia moment.
@@twiztedclown because Cody winning would have done what exactly? He wins the title and the momentum slows down as it has with every single babyface before him. Prolonging the chase has been very beneficial to him, stinky mark.
@@twiztedclown I take it as the sale/merger had a hand in it. Endeavor would want a known name being the focal point not someone who next to no one outside of wrestling knows
You can have a long term plan and move things around while still achieving that long term plan. It's like tv shows that have mini plots in the overall plot of the show. x-files is a good example of that with the monster of the week episodes and then the long term mulder/sister/ufo abduction thing.
So, what I'm taking away is:
Vince: "Mm, good idea pal, but we're doing it my way."
Tony: "Thank you for showing up."
Eric: "We got plans, we'll put you in the nWo."
Well said Pal!
"Tony is really kind and appreciative and Vince um... ... ...."
Tony's a sucker.
vince knows what he wants and tony doesnt
Yeah and the ratings show.
@@samhoss553WWE's ratings went way up after Vince left creative. Stats don't lie.
@@elmerinase5734 I know. I wasn’t talking about wwe ratings.
'it was hard to do anything wrong at that time' and yet bischoff still managed to.
It's not entirely his fault. I blame the TV executives more than anything else.
@@adamled99
This. Anyone who blames Eric is uneducated when it comes to that entire situation. He didn't have total control like Vince did. He had higher ups that constantly meddled in WCW and made his job difficult. Thunder is a great example. Nitro going 3 hours, Standards and Practices.. etc.
LOL
The idea of Vince having plans for 12 months and not tearing them up last minute is sending me 😂
Right? 😂 Hey, who knows… Maybe Vince really *does* make plans that far out, and he just coincidentally always ends up tearing them up when the night to enact ‘em comes around 🤣
Thats because he is an old senile, depraved, doofus with issues- who can no longer see the writing on the wall. Vince lives on the surplus rainchecks of the business he built to almost run itself in automation so much that he is no longer concerned with real growth both in profits and the qualify of the product. The old worn man no longer has it and hes become complacent, boring and lives in a comfort zone. He has become worst than the man he once hated- Ted Turner.
Exactly! How can he have a plan for the next year when no one knows what they're doing THAT NIGHT!
Yeah but that’s like a modern thing he’s changed about , back in the day I’m sure it was like that
@@POWERHOUSEFiteClub I don't think it's that modern. Remember why Austin walked out? Because he found out the day of or day before that he was going to job to Brock on Raw.
It's funny to me, when people in the industry have something even remotely nice to say about Vince, the internet calls it complete bullshit, as if they were there working.
Internet Smarks think they know more about Wrestling then the Wrestlers.😂
Now I understand why Jericho is able to manipulate Tony Khan so much.
You don't know a thing
Because it's clear why MJF called him a mark?
Tony Khan is nothing more than doofus money mark.
@@yoholmes273 if he’s a money mark then why is AEW drawing revenue lmao
@@WCWThunderRosa Revenue is not profit, ya goofy MARK.
Vince comes across as a boss you don't want to mess with. Tony comes across as a fun boss, the type that organises a wild office Xmas part in a comedy movie.
Say what you want about Vince but wrestling is where its at now, because of him. Far from a fan of his but im mature enough to think with my head and not emotion. Made wrestling relevant for the last 30 + years.
Vince is a captain leader boss boss.
Tony is a people pleaser boss.
Eric got lucky and knows a lot in hindsight.
Paul is definitely a legend, icon and a personal childhood favorite. Have had the privilege of meeting the man twice and seeing him wrestle several times. Anyone on that roster not taking the time to approach people like him, Mark Henry and Jim Ross with the utmost respect and questions are sorely missing out.
It is a good time to be talking about pro wrestling right now, so many different companies to watch every single week!
In a way, Big Show also worked for ECW/Paul Heyman. I mean Heyman ended up has his manager.
That was a WWE company dog…stop
That's a fucking reach lol
@@mikeboillard9071 I mean....sorta is.. but same time he held a different title for a another brand.
Awesome Question
funny thing is people in the comments who never owned or ran a wrestling promotion, never personally met with or spent time with Vince or Tony or Bischoff, and are jumping to conclusions on why Vince is a better boss and tony is just everybody's friend. first Vince is almost twice the age of tony, Vince grew up in a wrestling promotion business of father, Vince has decades of experience at hand, it is not odd that he might be better than tony at running the business, . People also need to understand no matter how friendly or people first guy tony is , he is still the boss, holds all the cards in his hand as the owner, you have seen just now that he fired CM punk for the backstage altercation, at the end of the day he call the shots, and in a few years he will get the experience aspect too.
he basically called tony a mark 🤣🤣🤣 " appreciative "
Fantastic question and answer
Where is the full episode?!
Tony is just a fan who had access to a bunch of money
Love how Vince would map out a character arc a year out only to rip up the RAW 3x the night of the show
He didn't plan something for a year and rip it up on the fly. He'd rip up the stuff that wasn't long term.
@@al5306 Wrong, stop simpin, lol. You are in every comment simpin so hard for Vince like you want to play Human Centipede with him. 🤣😂
@@al5306 Aaah...makes sense. VKM had yearlong character arcs for his wrestlers and rewrote weekly shows multiple times up until showtime is NOT, in fact, contradictory. He had yearly plans for all his wrestlers EXCEPT for the ones he didn't have yearly plans for...and those are the people he decided at showtime what to do with.
I was skeptical at first; but the way you described it is entirely logical and clears everything up. Good lookin out, Bruce!
@@dangerousdays2052 I mean, that's the way it is. You'd have a point if WWE had no long term stories before he stepped down, but they did. I never said he had plans for everyone. I also never said he didn't rip up scripts before the shows either. I'm saying he's not going to plan things out for a long time and pitch it all in the trash 5 minutes before the show. He might come up with a different angle or match to further that long term story 5 minutes before the show. Again, if they didn't have any long term stories, you guys would have a point, but they had so you don't. You could also talk like a grown adult, bud.
Did nobody catch him saying “with C M Punk coming back…”
It is possible that this interview happened before Punk's return in 2021. You'll soon realize that some interviews are taken years before they are officially released on their channel.
He is one of the greatest dungeons and dragons players.
Come on show. You cappin’! Vince, king of the last minute change, has 12 months of shows planned? 😂
Can’t make a last minute change if you didn’t have a plan to change in the first place…
He said during the attitude era. Vince never used to changed plans until the 2010s
He'd tear up the little stuff. If he planned something for a year, he wasn't going to tear it up last minute.
@@jkelley1947 glad to see someone has common sense! Bravo J Kelley
What's he going to do now that they cancelled aew dark thats the only place you ever seen or herd the big show
Big show vs Chris Jericho vs John Moxley vs Daniel, Robinson aew 2023 may 15
lol no
This didn’t age well …. “Tony’s definitely the boss” lmfao
Simple.
Vince is an actual boss.
Tony wants to be everybody’s boy. Very similar to how Bischoff was.
You don’t have to be a scumbag
@@Xxrocknrollgod But you can't be a meek, pathetic, easily manipulated dweeb either. Tony is a complete buffoon and joke.
@@Xxrocknrollgod Are we supposed to treat Tony like a charity case?
"I didn't watch the video, here's my opinion that I'm going to pretend is a fact" - you
@@al5306 He didn't even mention TK, lol. Why you obsessed with TK? You're so obsessed, hahaha! 🤣😂
Show must be talking about 15-20 years ago Vince.
Vince had his mind set paul wright is a giant. It would be real hard for him to give eny ideas 💡
So this explains why Tony's Booking hurts my head trying to follow week to week.
Tony should consider making Big Show a creative writer.
He is retired ,right...
3:00 "The inmates aren't running the prison" is a very interesting choice of words there. Given this interview is from 2021 Big Show was wrong even back then and very wrong now.
You couldnt have said it better, he's not the Big Slow for no reason
Tony has to take input. Hes a kid to the biz
"You feel like Tony is growing with you" is probably the most diplomatic way of saying he doesn't know what he's doing.
No
Or the only way of saying “he’s only just started”. Wtf so you expect? Someone to walk in and know how to run a wrestling company? Vince had his daddy
@@k.t.1641 If he has no experience, why is he doing it in the first place. He can afford to hire more experienced people to run things. The fact that he doesn't shows you where his priorities are.
"The inmates aren't running the prision, and make no mistake about it, Tony's in charge..." is by far, the biggest lie the Big Show has ever told. I wonder how much Tony's paying him NOT to tell the truth?
Hes not wrong. Vince runs things the way he wants and thats okay. Its his company. Tony is the type of business man that listens and thats also okay and provides a healthier work environment to be in but its like Big Show said; some people like Eric Bischoff and Chris Jericho knew how to change Vincent's mind about things and some people weren't.
Tony khan the man who can't make a profit.
Vince is a proven winner Tony still up for debate
@@Micfri300 lol
@@chadk890 💯
@@thruthemotionsimagine responding with lol in December 2023..
Be careful ordering magazines from this company they send the wrong issues and will not answer any emails to help you out
Wait did he just say CM punk coming back?
BIG SHOW RIGHT TONY KHAN HERE ON INSIDE THE ROPE ?
big show was a yes man who did what they wanted , even trashing wrestlers like bret who had grievances to move up the ladder and now he’s the one with grievances
Big show if what your saying was true you’d still be there
They have the ability to manage a bunch of egos ....really cause The Cm Punk situation says they don't 🤷♂
Basicly what he just said is Tony is a fan trying to make friends instead of run a. Company
I’ll translate. Vince is a boss. Tony is a money mark with Daddy’s bankroll.
Yeah. Vince built his empire from the ground up. Tony was able to just jump into the game due to his fathers cash. It feels like more of a hobby for him than an actual business.
Watch your mouth
@@CeemPlay the truth hurts sometimes.
@@finsfan90 vince was also given a territory from his daddy too , if you don't believe me it was in a 2001 playboy magazine where he opened up about it
@@IlejayWayne He wasn't "given" anything. He took a very regional promotion after BUYING it and made it profitable and national within three years. The kid with a billion+ dollars still can't make AEW's revenue exceed its expenditures.
Geezz. That's why i listen to Jim Cornette. He seldom adds fluff and most of the time brutally honest
Show can deny that the inmates don't run it in Aew but that's exactly how it comes across. It shows in every aspect of it. What bothers me about the show, is how they claim to be the anti WWE but it's model is exactly like wwes and they have to mention them or resort to profanity to get any real reaction. Those so called pipe bombs are nothing new. They're just more exaggerated and personalized.
There is no V vs T, that's just employees puffing up the fluff... #AndNowYouKnow 🌠
Jarrett
Surprised captain insano hasn’t kicked off yet 🤣
So many contradictory statements here that I don't even know where to begin
He looked like Ryback here lol
The word he used for tony was "appreciative" the word he wanted to say was "markish"
Full blown MARK
"I've been booking AEW since the 90's....in my mind"
- Tony MARK Khan 👀
No No all they mean is that Vince changes the little stuff like a random Raw or smackdown Wrestlemainia plans or big PPVs would already be in motion regardless
I love the fact McMahon comes back to WWE wearing a disguise, dyed black hair and a dodgy Moustache, it's like saying, forget the accusations I am a new man now, but WWE will be the same boring shit it has been for years... Even though HHH is trying, we all know who will have the last word…
😂😂😂😂😂. That’s the one thing people don’t get that I get. He does not give in to the people & give them what they want which makes it more funnier when he books at match like Brock vs Omos at WM 😅
Don't forget the face lift
@@kevinbrooks1104 🤣🤣🤣
@@kevinbrooks1104they're accusations, not facts.
And yet Mania and Backlash were fantastic
3:03 lmao come on Paul, I think the recent incidents with the so called elite and c.m. punk prove otherwise.
He has to be Big Show here because if the title said “Paul Wight”, the video wouldn’t have views 😂😂
Now it makes sense why WWE feels entitled to revenues made by wrestlers using their trademarked WWE names 😂😂
Uh.....ummmmm.....y'know...uhhh
Clearly Tony is a players coach that takes the players ideas over this own ideas. Which shows why their ratings are dying a slow death. Sad sad sad.
Click Bait
tbh its less clickbait than a lot of their titles
In what sense? he compared and contrasted the two bosses, plus another.
@@NATUR3F33LS The ''Untold" part makes it slightly disingenuous as the things he says about the respective bosses and their visions have already been out there for years at this point.
While I get the desire to call it out, I would say that at least the video was about what the title claims it's about.
😁
The tribalism in this comment section, bruh. 💀💀💀💀
JUNIOR PUT PAUL INTO A DIAPER AND RUINED HIS CAREER
But you are not in the ring anymore
They should get a host we could understand
Funny that everyone he interviews Americans Canadians Europeans all understand him yet you can't I think you need to listen better our learn how to understand simple English language and before somebody says it Scottish language is English language
Tony clearly operates like a leader should. Vince is a demander.
Thats why so many people are unhappy working for vince, and why they end up leaving or released for "not performing".
A good example was the iconics. They were great entertainment. They knew what they were doing. Vince decided he wanted Peyton as a solo star, they were against it, but vince wanted the square peg in the round hole & blamed the talent for it.
TK can handle egos? I dont think so when you see what the wlite get away with.
Yea cause it’s three years old 😂 and he has billions of dollars give it 5 years
It’s clickbait not worth the watch
big show , another wrestler in denial about being past his prime
2:34 Uhhhhhhh, are we sure Big Show is talking about the same Vince *card subject to change & tear up the script twice while RAW is on air* McMahon?
WWE is so overrated.
Big man mcmahon is the boss
Yeah, a terrible boss that ran his promotion into the ground, loool! 😂🤣
@@dangerousdays2052 loool ? Really?
Vince looks 🌈
Acts like it too. Remember he was making all the guys kiss his butt
The goatcho!