Doom Eternal: The Ancient Gods - Why Did The Seraphim Become Samuel Hayden?

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  • Doom Eternal: The Ancient Gods - Why Did The Seraphim Become Samuel Hayden?
    In todays video we are going to talk about why The Seraphim became Samuel Hayden in Doom Eternal. It was revealed on The Ancient Gods that Samuel Hayden is indeed The Seraphim, so now, we need to explore his past to get an answer as to why he became human.
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  • @soggie_wookie8224
    @soggie_wookie8224 3 года назад +1238

    "Where would all this be if i didn't have the foresight to create you"
    Mars would'nt have a hole in it?

  • @poshduck9696
    @poshduck9696 3 года назад +422

    Oh of course now it makes sense why when the slayer first entered Urdak the voice said “welcome seraphim” it’s because Hayden was in the slayers suit

  • @jamvously7170
    @jamvously7170 3 года назад +295

    Love how Doomguy just enters the portal without the Seraphim finishing his sentence like "Don't care didn't ask time to go back into killing."

  • @del10krejoicing9
    @del10krejoicing9 3 года назад +718

    Hugo did say that this is the end of the samuel hayden arc, so we will never see him again until further notice!!! good game though!

    • @Supermarauder
      @Supermarauder 3 года назад +83

      @FELIPE Augustosame here. I enjoyed Hayden/Seraphim as a character

    • @LivedLegna
      @LivedLegna 3 года назад +5

      Source?

    • @del10krejoicing9
      @del10krejoicing9 3 года назад +2

      @FELIPE Augusto I know right

    • @del10krejoicing9
      @del10krejoicing9 3 года назад +41

      @@LivedLegna it was a live that someone said hugo said this is the end of the samuel arc because you fight him and now the father took him so thats it, the ancient gods pt 2 is we will fight the darklord

    • @phillipvereen8614
      @phillipvereen8614 3 года назад +18

      @FELIPE Augusto how can you say Hayden wasn't all that bad, he had a hand in the invasion of earth, not to mention throwing shade at the slayer at the end of 2016 remember? All those dead people he literally has blood on his hands and in the DLC turns into a demon but apparently "he ain't that bad" lmao

  • @jordanstamey
    @jordanstamey 3 года назад +702

    Is it possible Hayden forgot he was Seraphim? Just like when Vega was plugged into that machine and quoted “I see now, I am The Father?” As though Vega forgot who he was, is it possible as time passed the Seraphim forgot who he actually was?

    • @poshduck9696
      @poshduck9696 3 года назад +65

      I hope that’s the case

    • @icedtea3347
      @icedtea3347 3 года назад +131

      probably not if samuel knew a little too much about hell and anything surrounding urdak he would have known what his goals are

    • @ExodusHunter15
      @ExodusHunter15 3 года назад +136

      @@icedtea3347 It feels jarring as hell tho. In doom 2016 Hayden knows very little about hell, yet all of a sudden he knows everything in doom eternal? Maybe him being exposed to the crucible helped him to remember?
      IMO it was a dumb idea to have Hayden and the seraphim be the same person

    • @thedreamz9376
      @thedreamz9376 3 года назад +65

      @@ExodusHunter15 what are talking he knew a lot back in doom 2016 as well

    • @jakubpociecha8819
      @jakubpociecha8819 3 года назад +16

      "Vegas"

  • @zoskiacultus6337
    @zoskiacultus6337 3 года назад +499

    The Doom Slayer himself knew, allow the Father to be resurrected and save Samur’s life but preventing him from killing the Dark Lord, or crush the Father’s sphere and fulfilling his goal, but leaving Samur to his ultimate fate. The Doom Slayer may have even showed signs of hesitations when he was about to finish off the transfigured Samur, he was slowly lifting his arm-blade, and he is never slow. A tragedy indeed.

    • @bro89174
      @bro89174 3 года назад +17

      He was slow killing the hell priest on sentinel prime after he defeated the gladiator

    • @zoskiacultus6337
      @zoskiacultus6337 3 года назад +54

      @@bro89174 that was pretty obvious. The hell priest was bound to be killed by Doom Slayer. Samur was just desperately standing in his way to save his own life.

    • @zoskiacultus6337
      @zoskiacultus6337 3 года назад +28

      And I do not think he was necessarily slow when killing the hell priest. He was just pointing his super shotgun and shot him until he heard enough of his rant.

    • @Mrjohnny164
      @Mrjohnny164 3 года назад +41

      @@bro89174 "slow killing"? He didnt even let him finish his sentence

    • @sentinelslayer8328
      @sentinelslayer8328 3 года назад +13

      He was slow with gladiators death...

  • @simonsenaviev7541
    @simonsenaviev7541 3 года назад +181

    The longer the Seraphim stays on Urdak the weaker he will become

    • @Toothig
      @Toothig Год назад +1

      you have a lot of likes but no reply’s and now you have one

  • @dumdumballoon
    @dumdumballoon 3 года назад +549

    So all this time he was pushing for humanity to use Argent, it was all to further The Father's original plan? Even to the point of *betraying* Doomguy, the one being this all centers about.. bloody hell, literally.

    • @libertyprime1614
      @libertyprime1614 3 года назад +27

      They would come to Earth either (remember Khan Maykr) Samuel wanted to do it on his terms and retrieve the Doomslayer in process.

  • @Midnighthalo
    @Midnighthalo  3 года назад +417

    Seraphim: "Your gifts are owed to us now!"
    Doom Slayer: *unf*
    Seraphim: "kay you can keep them"
    Hey guys, be sure to leave a like and share this video to push it through recommendations. Have a good day!

    • @bigdaddyshrek27
      @bigdaddyshrek27 3 года назад +1

      I still haven't beaten ancient gods got half way though the final boss game crashed and I no longer speak the games name

    • @williamcrutchfield7211
      @williamcrutchfield7211 3 года назад

      I have it was awesome

    • @bigdaddyshrek27
      @bigdaddyshrek27 3 года назад +1

      The fact that I'm on console makes it even worse jumping and dashing makes it near impossible to aim

    • @Evil_Dr.SlapNuts
      @Evil_Dr.SlapNuts 3 года назад +1

      What song do you put at the end of all your video's?

    • @grantleslie4293
      @grantleslie4293 3 года назад

      Where is the review my guy?

  • @loganlehmann6418
    @loganlehmann6418 3 года назад +57

    Samuel Hayden: "Its really a great honor to be blessed by the seraphim, he is a very wise and noble being. I might add that he is strikingly handsome as well"
    I'm kind of sad that we wont be seeing more samuel/samur, I really enjoyed RESOOOOOOOOOOLVEing conflicts with him.

    • @masterdeity3400
      @masterdeity3400 3 года назад +11

      Omg the nostalgia for Doom 2016 hits hard. To this day, I still don’t understand why he said it like that. “Resooooooooooooooooooooooooooooolve this problem in a way that benefits us both.”

    • @The94Venom
      @The94Venom 3 года назад +5

      @@masterdeity3400 Robots do glitch

    • @sandwhich14
      @sandwhich14 3 года назад +1

      Lmao I thought I was the only one who noticed his funny way of speaking 🤣

  • @bobisconsumed520
    @bobisconsumed520 3 года назад +245

    The Seraphim shouldve transferred his consciousness into Vega’s system and take control of the UAC’s weaponry and robotics, kinda like Skynet.

    • @thecommentguy9380
      @thecommentguy9380 3 года назад +17

      you mean the system that nuked a whole sector of the mars base?

    • @garadus1767
      @garadus1767 3 года назад +26

      Skynet vs Hell... Robots vs an unrelanting army of demons that never stop until the flesh from your bones is between their teeth.... nah, I'll still with Doomguy, an immortal demigod

    • @MasterGamerXGamerboi
      @MasterGamerXGamerboi 2 года назад +1

      @@garadus1767 but that would've been cool to see

  • @bobisconsumed520
    @bobisconsumed520 3 года назад +149

    “You cant just blow a hole in the surface of Mars!” We miss you Samy😢

    • @dondeka2086
      @dondeka2086 3 года назад +7

      I like to think that ANCIENT GODS aren’t canon. To me after the slayer killed icon of sin he plays doom 1 and 2 in his fortress of doom with samuel hayden telling him all the level secrets

  • @supremefankai5480
    @supremefankai5480 3 года назад +215

    Form the way Samuel acts in Doom 2016 and even Eternal, it feels like the human personality was separate from Samur, it was only after he got ripped apart that Samur started resurfacing which is why Sammy now had info he couldn't have before. It was only the transfer back into his original body that all of Samuel Hayden seems to have been purged which also detached him from humanity. Then it was all about saving his own hide with none of Samuel's noble intention left, so tragic.

    • @Otgel
      @Otgel 3 года назад +51

      Actually it's most likely that being attached to his og body actually started the process of being corrupted, sorta like the maykrs

    • @aevvah_flxwer8550
      @aevvah_flxwer8550 3 года назад +9

      @@Otgel Still very tragic... ;(

    • @muramasa870
      @muramasa870 3 года назад +49

      @@Otgel should've stayed badass cyborg professor...

    • @goonished
      @goonished 3 года назад +32

      I think they just originally had a different plan for sam in 2016, one where he was just a regular dude in a robot body, which got thrown out the window during the development of Eternal.

    • @aevvah_flxwer8550
      @aevvah_flxwer8550 3 года назад +6

      @@UNATCO Interesting interpretation. I hope this will be explained/expanded upon in Part 2, or in DOOM Eternal's sequel somehow (through the Codex maybe? Idk). Samuel/The Seraphim is such an interesting character (imo). I'd hate for this to go on unexplained like it is.

  • @youngmadman13
    @youngmadman13 3 года назад +93

    So Samur was first a maykr, who then landed on Earth in a human body (later in his life getting cancer), then transferred his consciousness into the UAC robot body??

    • @TheAmazingToma2003
      @TheAmazingToma2003 3 года назад +6

      Of course

    • @ripgasbaron9716
      @ripgasbaron9716 3 года назад +25

      Yeah, I think Gamefreak is kinda pushing it with these new Pokémon evoluiton lines...

    • @TheAmazingToma2003
      @TheAmazingToma2003 3 года назад +1

      @@ripgasbaron9716 uh.. wrong topic sir?

    • @tessament
      @tessament 3 года назад +11

      @@ripgasbaron9716
      Underrated joke

    • @sonsoyeah760
      @sonsoyeah760 3 года назад +3

      This is some real devilman shit right here

  • @ZinisterMusic
    @ZinisterMusic 3 года назад +220

    DoomGuy: did I ever tell you the tragedy of Samuel Hayden the wise
    Demons: is it possible to obtain this power
    DoomGuy: not from a seraphim

    •  3 года назад +6

      A man of culture I see... very well said sir.

    • @unrealevent0
      @unrealevent0 3 года назад +5

      Not from a mykre

  • @dejected107
    @dejected107 3 года назад +12

    I like characters like Samuel hayden.
    Characters that had to guide and/or lead humanity developing them to be all that they can be.
    Raiden from mortal Kombat and gandalf from Lord of the Rings also had underwent similar under takings.
    Characters like this go to extreme lengths to achieve their goals and face some of the toughest decisions to make which takes them to a thin grey line between good and evil. They encourage the audience to think deeply about the bigger picture and what they might have done if they were in their shoes.
    This makes them all the more admirable.

  • @cerealmilk1803
    @cerealmilk1803 3 года назад +222

    "I'm here to help you, as I have always" bruh u betrayed us in doom 2016

  • @quantumhorizon
    @quantumhorizon 3 года назад +48

    Is anyone else curious where the wraiths fit into this hierarchy? It seems like they've been retconned out of the lore.

    • @the_furry_inside_your_walls639
      @the_furry_inside_your_walls639 3 года назад +18

      The Wraiths are the angels of the Argenta. They have nothing to do with the Maykr Angels.

    • @beebob2877
      @beebob2877 3 года назад +18

      They’re just unrelated primordial beings now. They’re basically mini gods

    • @shinobi_endure
      @shinobi_endure 3 года назад +4

      Argent Energy = Hell Essence (derived from mortal souls) + Sentinel Essence/Energy (derived from wraiths)
      Argent Energy is basically one of the energies of life itself and the tech to manipulate life energies, the Maykrs are quite proficient in.

  • @invinma427
    @invinma427 3 года назад +9

    i think Samur killed samuel hayden, the leader of the UAC, and took over his persona in order to infiltrate it. he then created a lie that hayden discovered how to transfer his own consciousness into a machine, but it was actually Samur. i remember in the doom 2016 lore it was mentioned that Hayden changed immensely when his consciousness was transferred

  • @midnightthespartan3071
    @midnightthespartan3071 3 года назад +55

    Im gonna miss Samuel :[

    • @juanisol8275
      @juanisol8275 3 года назад +7

      mee to.... who knows maybe will see him in other time....

    • @aevvah_flxwer8550
      @aevvah_flxwer8550 3 года назад +5

      We all will...
      *God damn it*

  • @peet3449
    @peet3449 3 года назад +72

    Hugo, please, dont take Hayden from us! Bring him back sometime in the future!
    Im still wanting to know when are we going to get a new quake sequel tho D:

    • @JeremyRedus
      @JeremyRedus 3 года назад +21

      Well, Samuel didn't die necessarily, The Father teleported him out before the slayer could kill him. So who knows.

    • @trashbeast
      @trashbeast 3 года назад +10

      Yeah, but he was already undergoing transfiguration, which marks the end of a Maykr's life.

    • @Winterstormadvisory
      @Winterstormadvisory 3 года назад +6

      I wanna see the og Lovecraftian style of quake reborn with modern graphics and shit.

    • @Winterstormadvisory
      @Winterstormadvisory 3 года назад +3

      Though gameplay-wise I struggle to see it being anything other than a doom eternal reskin

    • @fieldy409
      @fieldy409 3 года назад +7

      @@trashbeast I don't think transfiguration is death like we think about it. I think it's transformation into a mutated and mad thing. More like a death of who you were and much worse. They are immortal after all.

  • @TheAmazingToma2003
    @TheAmazingToma2003 3 года назад +11

    Fun fact:
    In doom 2016 on the research faclity before entering the level with the cyberdemon
    Theres a portrait of a man named HIS name at the bottom of the stair when entering the level.
    I remember that when his human corpse is dying, their team have built his robot body to prevent his souls from like evaporate from his human life.
    Plus in Eternal in Urdak, we found that theres humans shape but they are at stage of a phetus but in adult size
    I belive that my theory is right

  • @colonialspicy6516
    @colonialspicy6516 3 года назад +21

    One thing from the DLC that I haven't seen talked about is who's life spheres are the little ones surrounding The Father and The Dark Lord?

    • @hambonepng1152
      @hambonepng1152 3 года назад +9

      Apparently those are the life spheres of the other gods that the dark lord killed

    • @boldandbrash6170
      @boldandbrash6170 3 года назад +1

      Aren't they prime evils (gods) Of their universes that are a lot less power than the father / the dark lord?

  • @me-ky6hl
    @me-ky6hl 3 года назад +23

    Fun fact: When you kill the kahn maker in doom eternal the subtitles will say the The Dark Lord: Nooo

    • @matispure2
      @matispure2 3 года назад

      It was mysterious voice no?

    • @me-ky6hl
      @me-ky6hl 3 года назад

      I think it had said ???

    • @me-ky6hl
      @me-ky6hl 3 года назад +2

      And now if you finish the normal game it says that the dark lord says that

    • @matispure2
      @matispure2 3 года назад

      @@me-ky6hl ok i see i always wondered who that voice was

    • @me-ky6hl
      @me-ky6hl 3 года назад

      @@matispure2 Same

  • @MasterGamerXGamerboi
    @MasterGamerXGamerboi 2 года назад +8

    I kinda liked the reveal of Hayden being the Seraphin because after you explaining that he seems to have more of a character arc than just being known as the "I am not the villain of this story, I do what I do because there is no choice" funny robot man

    • @IntenseEffectDripVegetaXV2
      @IntenseEffectDripVegetaXV2 Год назад

      But they kinda retcon the lore making him seraphim because in 2016 he stole the crucible and likes argent energy and wouldn’t even help Doom now in the next game it’s all cool? Doom would’ve rip and tear him limb from limb next time they met up

  • @The94Venom
    @The94Venom 3 года назад +5

    Hugo confirmed that Samur is still alive, but that his Transfiguration is still in progress, and that he will eventually turn into a Cthulu-like monster (as all Maykrs will now that the Father can't save them). So even if Samur does return, it's safe to say that Samuel Hayden is definitely a thing of the past.

  • @TivonSanders
    @TivonSanders 3 года назад +14

    2:20 Doom Eternal WAS a tutorial.
    Big picture, Midnight. Big picture. ;-) lol

  • @jonnymars2254
    @jonnymars2254 3 года назад +2

    Played it and this made it make way more sense. Thanks I didn’t read into it. Best video yet and straight to point

  • @theduke9264
    @theduke9264 3 года назад +2

    This channel helps with all the details that im new to doom lore I finally understood what you were talking about and its an amazing story way to go

  • @fanman6568
    @fanman6568 3 года назад +8

    (9:48) maybe it’s because there must be a balance between good and evil. I seen some shows and movies where they say there must be a balance of it.

  • @smormann
    @smormann 3 года назад +10

    But why did Samur leave Slayer on Mars after he retrieved the Crucible?

  • @mercifulmartyr
    @mercifulmartyr 3 года назад

    ive had this question for so long and haven't been able to find anything thank you midnight u really are one of my favorite RUclipsrs

  • @antoniomastro8334
    @antoniomastro8334 3 года назад

    I was waiting for this one, thanks Midnight!

  • @GarudAtma
    @GarudAtma 3 года назад +5

    Samuel becomes cocky because he is affected by transfiguration or he is always cocky. Whatever the reason, he gets to his senses after getting crushed under slayer boots

  • @onlyicedgarrett7791
    @onlyicedgarrett7791 3 года назад +2

    The one thing that's consistent about Samuel is that he will do anything to make Hell lose, or at least not become the dominant power in the universe. He went against all tradition and sanctions to turn Doomguy into the Slayer which broke the Siege of Taras Nabad, he made off with the Father to keep the corrupt Maykrs from getting their hands on him, and he basically went undercover as a human to prepare humanity against Hell and to get the Slayer out of his prison in Hell. Don't forget that, Samuel went WAY out of his way to get the Slayer out of Hell, because he knew that he was the best weapon to use against Hell. Once 2016 starts and the Slayer is freed, he continually assists the Slayer to stop Hell's incursion. Samuel took the Crucible because it has Argent Energy, and he needs that to reinforce Humanity. Fast forward to Eternal after Sammy got rekt in battle and got backed up to the Slayer's fortress, he helps the Slayer stop the Khan Makyr from assimilating Earth. He helps humanity because those are the Slayer's people, and the best way to create a kind of association with the Slayer and to give the Slayer motivation. Samuel NEEDS the Slayer in play to win.
    Now the Ancient Gods is when we see a shift in his priorities, so far it seemed like he wanted Humanity to prosper, but that coincides with wanting Hell stopped no matter what. Hell has taken over Urdak, and that has shifted the balance of power way in their favor. Samuel's plan was to restore The Father and The Father would restore balance to the universe, thus Hell doesn't take over everything. Has the slight upside of also saving Samuel from Transfiguration. Slayer has a different plan to stop Hell: resurrect the Dark Lord and kill him. Hell would be as strong as ever, but if they are vanquished in that moment, they are vanquished forever. And he's fucking Doomguy, you already know what he's going to choose. Samuel cannot abide this, as this leaves him and The Father left out to dry. Plus, Samuel thinks if the Dark Lord is resurrected, not even the Slayer could stop him, which means game over. That's why Samuel stands in the Slayer's way.
    These two characters have had an alliance full of disagreement from the very beginning, so it being resolved by a fight where Slayer obviously wins but spares Samuel (tho sparing him to a fate of Transfiguration is pretty rough) is the natural way for the arc to end. I think they could have done a much better job tying it all together. I think all the points are there, all the reasons Sammy does what he does, but they're not tied together, they seem alien from each other. His actions as Hayden and helping humanity and as the Seraphim and restoring the Father seem like two different people, but they share the same goal of defeating Hell. However, Samuel has different priorities and is willing to make different sacrifices from the Slayer, which is where the conflict arises.

  • @bingusbongus7417
    @bingusbongus7417 3 года назад +69

    Sammy was too tall in Doom 2016, even taller than the Slayer, I knew he was a complicated character with almost no lore at the point he was created and would become a villain in a future Doom game.

    • @juanjoyaborja.3054
      @juanjoyaborja.3054 3 года назад +6

      The slayer was only 6’0 which is understandable

    • @Scazoid
      @Scazoid 3 года назад +2

      @@juanjoyaborja.3054 In Doom Eternal his height is retconned to 6'8, yet Samuel Hayden's torso is almost as huge as him.

    • @computerman789
      @computerman789 5 месяцев назад

      @@juanjoyaborja.3054 Dude is at least 6'4" outside of armour in Doom 2016 and Eternal. Maybe in the original MS-DOS Doom he/his counterpart was 6'0" (I did see a splash screen of 'Doom Guy' being 6'0" in Quake Arena) but most definitely not the modern rendition.

    • @juanjoyaborja.3054
      @juanjoyaborja.3054 5 месяцев назад

      @@computerman789 I got updated information, he’s actually 6’8”, it’s just that Samuel Hayden is a towering beast

    • @computerman789
      @computerman789 5 месяцев назад

      @@juanjoyaborja.3054 I've taken that into account, I was just giving a perspective of the actual height disparity and speculating.
      I've seen somewhere that he's 6'8" in full armour, probably 6'6" at the very tallest out of armour, but I'll admit that's speculation.
      If we can go by other prominent ostensibly superpowered characters in full-bodied super armour like Marvel's 'Iron Man' (who's 6'1" out of armour and 6'6" in armour according to Marvel's database last time I checked) we can speculate it's probably a similar situation with the Doom Slayer, just take an inch or so.

  • @monkeygorrila6105
    @monkeygorrila6105 3 года назад

    Great video

  • @AntiWanted
    @AntiWanted 3 года назад

    Nice job

  • @Dark_Jaguar
    @Dark_Jaguar 3 года назад +31

    It's not "all good stuff", he also messed with the demons and called them to Earth. He is directly responsible for what they did. I mean seriously, there's SO many energy solutions that don't involve rituals to go to hell and syphon the tortured souls of the damned. I mean think long term. That energy, the energy he wanted humans to use, REQUIRED demons to invade and kill and eternally torture beings on worlds, forever, to be sustainable. He also didn't seem to be particularly bothered by the lives lost as he explained how it was "worth it". Frankly, he was awful even before returning to his original body.
    In any case, this does explain it. Simply put, he put himself in a human body to avoid being discovered and hunted down by the Kahn Maykr, who considered him a traitor. With her dead, he had no reason not to return to his original form.
    However, I do have one criticism. I didn't get to fight Optimus. I wanted to punch a robot devil, not just another Maykr. Well, he's still out there. Maybe he'll build an even better robo-angel body for us to fight next time!
    Just one thing. Doomguy was already a powerful badarse BEFORE Sammy enhanced him with the god machine. Samur takes full credit for "creating" doomguy, but all he did was turn him into the Slayer. Doomguy wrecked and ruined Hell's plans 5 times BEFORE becoming the Slayer, and he was already fast enough to outrun his own rockets THEN. Samur, thanks for those gifts, but seriously do you think I was trash before you met me?

    • @the_furry_inside_your_walls639
      @the_furry_inside_your_walls639 3 года назад +15

      You completely forgot that the rituals were carried out by the UAC cultists, not Samuel Hayden. Olivia Pierce was the one who pushed for the rituals. Samuel Hayden had no idea she'd go crazy and form a satanic cult.

    • @Mrjohnny164
      @Mrjohnny164 3 года назад +7

      You got it wrong. First of all the reason he wanted to go to Hell was to get the doom slayer. He didnt go there or opened any portals to hell to syphon out argent from there that happened naturally on mars, its why he built the facility on mars, to syphon the energy from the breach and oversee its usage because he knew mankind would fuck it up (and they did) without help. Also argent energy contains the souls of the damned because argent is part sentinel energy and part hell energy and its the hell part that contains the souls which leads me to my next point. Remember that samuel had energy filters in the mars base to make argent safe to use and it had red energy going in and blue coming out? What other energy is blue? Sentinel. They never really confirmed it but Im pretty sure samuel was taking out the hell energy out of argent which makes it pure sentinel energy which is nice and safe and doesnt have any souls in it.
      Also before the ending of DOOM 2016 the demons had acess to The Well which accelerated the build up of hell energy which meant more argent energy as long as the maykrs and sentinels kept making sentinel energy. But the slayer shuts down The Well which forced Samuel to take the demonic Crucible away from him and eventually (my speculation) the Khan Maykr to invade Earth for more Hell essence to prevent her transfiguration through argent
      And so what if he used argent? What do you think the ballista fires? The doom slayer is willing to use it to achieve his goals the same way that samuel is willing to use to save mankind. Hes a super intelligent beeing created directly by God, if he says theres no other way to solve the energy crysis then there isnt one

    • @davidfiser8593
      @davidfiser8593 3 года назад

      Invasion by hell was being prepared long time ago by three hell priests also with cooperation by that litle girl from mars (That got betrayed and killed, woohoo!) Dont forget that north of earth was full of burried ancient warriors connected with other worlds.

  • @lflmura
    @lflmura 3 года назад

    Dude, I love these videos.

  • @ryukse1903
    @ryukse1903 3 года назад

    Man i love your vids

  • @spartana1116
    @spartana1116 3 года назад +1

    Intersting that we also learn on the origins of hell, I guess he also brought him back to help kill the khan maker because he knew that she was being corrupted amd needed to be removed to save other dimensions from the makers treachery

  • @isakisak9989
    @isakisak9989 3 года назад +112

    The seraphim did a fucky wucky owo, so he became samuel so he could work a lot closer with the slayer Uwu so together they could work and resoooooolve this situation.

  • @gonhunter3994
    @gonhunter3994 3 года назад +17

    The Seraphim is one cool character (at least, when it comes to the looks)

    • @thedootslayer3339
      @thedootslayer3339 3 года назад +3

      Nah, Doomslayer better

    • @ShaqNasty557
      @ShaqNasty557 3 года назад +2

      Yeah i gotta admit the robe and hood makes him look fresh as fuck

  • @lucisxz
    @lucisxz 3 года назад +4

    9:30 midnight, you really like The First Hunter ost.

  • @danooshansureshkumar8405
    @danooshansureshkumar8405 3 года назад +1

    So I was playing UAC atlanta today, and when I dived into the water, instead of trying to find my way in I looked around... There is a big tentacle monster coming out of the seafloor eating a ship, I love doom

  • @Borat_is_the_GOAT
    @Borat_is_the_GOAT 3 года назад +39

    Is this the end of the doom franchise with hell’s leader finally being defeated will The Doomslayer become the king of hell and rule with an iron fist.

    • @cwp24
      @cwp24 3 года назад +19

      I think what will happen is that the doomslayer kills hell’s leader and leaves it for good. Leaving hell to cave in on itself, eating itself alive until nothing of hell is left.
      Hope that made sense. I really want to see hell destroyed for good, in real life and in the game. Which would bring the doom franchise to an official conclusion story wise. The fans will continue to bring new user generated content to the game whenever they decide to get that up and running in eternal. This was a story that was 27 years in the making after all. I think it’s time to officially conclude it.

    • @chonkycat841
      @chonkycat841 3 года назад +24

      @@cwp24 Before Doom Eternal's release Hugo said that they want to build a whole Doom universe. Would be pretty stupid to end it after only 1 game

    • @cwp24
      @cwp24 3 года назад +4

      @@chonkycat841 your right, I forgot about that. Well then that means more doom for us. Which is a good thing. Yeah my thought of thinking it should end after this was a pretty dumb one now. Yep very stupid take on my part.

    • @MP-li2yk
      @MP-li2yk 3 года назад +15

      @@cwp24 Well I mean your suggestion is pretty likely. It would make sense to have an epic boss fight where you have a 1v1 with the dark lord and kill hell. Maybe, however, since there's a multiverse, there are other versions of hell. With infinite universes, the possibilities are... Eternal.

    • @cwp24
      @cwp24 3 года назад +7

      @@MP-li2yk okay, that makes sense. I’m right, it will be end of THIS particular universe. But we would have others start as well once that one is concluded.

  • @rampage75_25
    @rampage75_25 2 года назад +2

    You know, who was the third maykr? You see 3 maykrs in the scene when steven marine (the doomslayer) is putted back to rest. Vega the father, Seraphim and a third one. Who was that?

    • @mado-wh4jv
      @mado-wh4jv Год назад

      Those weren't Vega and Samur, Vega is still an AI even if he is in Urdak and Samuel fall into transportation. Those 3 Maykrs are likely just random guys that were loyal to the Father (Vega), at best they were same Maykrs that helped with the resurrection of the Dark Lord.

  • @calumward1192
    @calumward1192 3 года назад +1

    I don’t understand why you haven’t got more subs... your content is like the best shit when your awake at like 2am and can’t sleep cause you keep watching more lore videos 😂

  • @Equinox_4D2
    @Equinox_4D2 3 года назад

    YOOO the bloodborne music near the end, Gehrman Theme

  • @jamesdeadlocked6664
    @jamesdeadlocked6664 3 года назад +1

    Say Midnight do u have video of the Marauder and Doom Slayer talking that we never heard before

  • @j_mack1996
    @j_mack1996 3 года назад +7

    This is a " What If " . What if there are other Devoths out there in other dimensions that are waiting for this guy to Kick the Bucket and then take his place.

    • @LoneSwordsmanTheory
      @LoneSwordsmanTheory 3 года назад

      As well as the Mother Demon and other lords of Hell.

    • @j_mack1996
      @j_mack1996 3 года назад

      @@LoneSwordsmanTheory . I guess you can think of her as Lilith.

  • @AsPlayBox
    @AsPlayBox 3 года назад +4

    somebody theorized already that Samuel Hayden and The Seraphim is one on one of your videos, I forgot where it was

    • @koldraxonofthefirstseven5718
      @koldraxonofthefirstseven5718 3 года назад +2

      Many had theorized this due to seeing Samur's (shrouded; face obscured/untextured or not even modelled) head, removing the hood, and seeing the similarities of it and Samuel Hayden's machine-head. I was among those who took note.

    • @AsPlayBox
      @AsPlayBox 3 года назад +1

      @@koldraxonofthefirstseven5718 I don't know about the other's seeing the model but I take that as one of the reasons they're the same, but somebody theorized that they're goal is almost the same like "What if Samur is helping DoomGuy to kill the demons and before that, The Seraphim have done it too by giving him godlike powers" and here we are, they're the same

    • @koldraxonofthefirstseven5718
      @koldraxonofthefirstseven5718 3 года назад +2

      @@AsPlayBox They also spoke similar or had very similar lines of dialogue that caused the speculation - namely ones regarding gifts (Divinity Machine and when Samuel Hayden gives the Slayer a sample of Argent energy for his Praetor suit).

  • @gunslinger_7.629
    @gunslinger_7.629 3 года назад +1

    Did anyone else notice that the Earth is destroyed in the Holt? In the pinky blood punch room at the end the earth has been split apart (facing Asia)... I think Samur did something before meeting us in the Luminarium.

  • @GugaGT12
    @GugaGT12 3 года назад +1

    I discovered that they were the same person by the voice, in that doomguy's flashback

  • @Lord-Darkness
    @Lord-Darkness 3 года назад

    Always knew it was this due that gave him his powers man that voice is not normal

  • @tammyandtimstewart8558
    @tammyandtimstewart8558 3 года назад

    This answers my question

  • @Chaxzer
    @Chaxzer 3 года назад

    Never missed any video

  • @JeremyRedus
    @JeremyRedus 3 года назад

    Man does this tie together the plots of Doom 2016 and Doom Eternal nicely.

  • @blenderboi1668
    @blenderboi1668 3 года назад

    i can't afford doom eternal right now so I'm happy to explore the story for now. thanks for sharing :)

  • @wwcwcp09
    @wwcwcp09 3 года назад

    @Midnight will you do a video on what happened to the Doom Slayer's SENTIENAL SHIP last seen in orbit over Earth??

  • @aquaticnub1399
    @aquaticnub1399 3 года назад

    thank you so much I saw this cutscene and I was so confused what haapend. Im not that into doom eternal lore unlike I am in other games but its still really cool and interesting.

  • @gendygoblin8391
    @gendygoblin8391 3 года назад +1

    The Seraphim definitely seems like a King in Yellow sort of character. I wish he continues being a key player in the franchise.

  • @james737er
    @james737er 3 года назад +35

    You had a little oopsy poopsy on the title, it’s Become not became. Anyways thanks for the great video, Midnight!

    • @CygnusTheSilly
      @CygnusTheSilly 3 года назад +4

      And I got kono dio da-d just because I looked at the comments
      Not complaining

    • @james737er
      @james737er 3 года назад

      @@couriersix8493 I’m proud of that fact.

    • @RIGHTFOOTPYRO
      @RIGHTFOOTPYRO 3 года назад

      @@couriersix8493 What's wrong with that?

    • @--------352
      @--------352 3 года назад

      BeCUM*

  • @raykstel089
    @raykstel089 3 года назад +3

    I have a question: What are the little orbs on the mountain where the life sphere of the father and of the dark lord were being held? Are those life spheres of lesser gods or something completely different?
    (Sorry for any mistakes)

    • @p_serdiuk
      @p_serdiuk 3 года назад +6

      Yes, spheres of other failed gods.

  • @minecraftslover
    @minecraftslover 3 года назад +2

    So since the doom slayer and the devil look the same, and the father says “he’s their version of you” does that mean that the doom slayer is earths primeval (earths god) and that’s why he’s so feared and powerful

  • @infinity_label
    @infinity_label 3 года назад +2

    TWIST WITH DARK LORD BEING LIKE DOOMGUY IS NOT ENOUGH!WE NEED NEW DESIGNS IN FUTURE

  • @j3romega
    @j3romega 3 года назад +2

    I might have missed this but, the big angel(?) in urdak looks like the seriphim but transformed, what is/was it?

    • @ayushkaushik8794
      @ayushkaushik8794 3 года назад

      It was either a previous Khan Maykr's or The Father's body.

  • @earrapetime1886
    @earrapetime1886 3 года назад +1

    4:25 the cursor lol, is it that hard to move it a bit for the sake of a screenshot

  • @thanashs
    @thanashs 3 года назад

    thnx for uploading every day my man and keep me company

  • @Caim6311
    @Caim6311 3 года назад +1

    I think why samuel hayden was looking for clues on mars that link to the seraphims

  • @wilhelmwagner3353
    @wilhelmwagner3353 3 года назад

    Nice

  • @ChrisDanceMusic
    @ChrisDanceMusic 3 года назад

    Im gonna miss that awesome voice
    Its put a hole in my heart just like the surface of Mars

  • @joemamuhtop10s20
    @joemamuhtop10s20 3 года назад +5

    Not first, also how’s it going midnight?

  • @anonoanon1198
    @anonoanon1198 3 года назад +3

    I can see a prequel spin off series centred around the dark Lord.

    • @Ragingknight12
      @Ragingknight12 3 года назад +1

      I hope to God that doesn't happen

    • @anonoanon1198
      @anonoanon1198 3 года назад +1

      @The Immaculate Slayer it'd be cool asf playing as the dark Lord with all his abilities. Imagine conquering alien worlds with boss battles against the lesser gods. No guns, just godly abilities and a crucible. He gains new abilities every time he kills a lesser God. He would get progressively more dark and brutal as his arc advances until he becomes the dark Lord of hell.

    • @anonoanon1198
      @anonoanon1198 3 года назад

      @@Ragingknight12 it'd be cool asf playing as the dark Lord with all his abilities. Imagine conquering alien worlds with boss battles against the lesser gods. No guns, just godly abilities and a crucible. He gains new abilities every time he kills a lesser God. He would get progressively more dark and brutal as his arc advances until he becomes the dark Lord of hell.

  • @vargamarioalexan9853
    @vargamarioalexan9853 3 года назад

    2:32 that face really made me happier

  • @gamingwithryan2.071
    @gamingwithryan2.071 3 года назад +1

    All I want is to meet the Doom 3 marines (Lost mission,ROE and the real campaign)And also he will be alive if he wasn’t killed by demons,because he would be a couple of years old,he would still be alive if he didn’t get overwhelmed by the demons

  • @Lou528491
    @Lou528491 3 года назад

    A video on the father would be cool

  • @extranationrecordsofficial1826
    @extranationrecordsofficial1826 3 года назад +1

    Samaual Hayden: Your "gifts" are owed to us now
    Doom Slayer lefts the chat

  • @qqq29441
    @qqq29441 3 года назад

    Midnight! can you make a video of my question Ïs the doom slayer the dark lord?

  • @passionatemelon6627
    @passionatemelon6627 3 года назад

    We need to get midnight to 150k subs

  • @willowyknight7645
    @willowyknight7645 3 года назад +13

    So I guess the question now is why did he transfer his mind back into his origanal body insteas of staying mechanicle?

    • @pacer1705
      @pacer1705 3 года назад +1

      Alex Carvell I quote from Pitch Meeting scriptwrite, "I will need to ask you to get all the way off my back on this." Lol.

    • @Edongg
      @Edongg 3 года назад +2

      I think his original robo-body got destroyed as we saw in the main story, which couldnt be repaired because it's of alien (maykr) design. thats why he stayed as a vega replacement for the final act of the campaign and for some of the ancient gods until he was returned to the seraphim body

    • @DatAsianGuy
      @DatAsianGuy 3 года назад +1

      considering that his OG body is still technically in the Slayer's fortress half destroyed and that this DLC probably takes place not too long after the main campaign, I assume that there was no time for a new body and besides that the human scientist mentioned when you were picking up Hayden's left over body, that it's "too alien" for them.
      Second of all is he probably had to switch back to his body for some reason.

    • @Mrjohnny164
      @Mrjohnny164 3 года назад +1

      2 reasons
      -his old body was destroyed
      -his OG body allows him to tp on the earth realm and to urdak

    • @BLOrtega
      @BLOrtega 3 года назад +1

      Because the robot that Samuel occupied was very alien to Humans, so repairing it would take ages

  • @lumerianknight2199
    @lumerianknight2199 3 года назад +1

    I cant get over how his voice is vibrato sam hayden.

  • @richardalfaro4933
    @richardalfaro4933 3 года назад

    Cool I didn't know about this lore from Halo I always thought the Didact was imprisoned and hated the master chief

  • @Starda.
    @Starda. 3 года назад +5

    You know what I wander, what happened between Eternal and 2016

    • @dondeka2086
      @dondeka2086 3 года назад

      The doomslayer buys the Fortress of doom with UAC weapons from the Sentinels , that’s why you start with a shotgun in doom eternal and nothing else

  • @KS1M1R4
    @KS1M1R4 3 года назад +2

    "Doom Eternal: the Ancient Gods makes Doom Eternal look as a tutorial" I agree with it. El DLC es muy difícil. No consigo pasar de la primera misión en Ultra-Nightmare 😭

    • @AquaGaming1607
      @AquaGaming1607 3 года назад

      Oh yeah, the DLC was real hard. I can’t imagine the effort needed to play this DLC on UN. I know a couple dudes like Allstin who did it first try tho.

  • @indrast5203
    @indrast5203 3 года назад +1

    The use of Soulsborne music is great

  • @FeriRezakarnaPutra
    @FeriRezakarnaPutra 3 года назад

    @midnight
    Question : if the maker took the dark lord life sphere, then who took the maker life sphere ?
    or maybe I'm understand wrongly? can someone enlighten me ?

  • @tuckerhenrikson7709
    @tuckerhenrikson7709 3 года назад +10

    The keywords in the description lol

    • @roberthawks1084
      @roberthawks1084 3 года назад

      Are they for the algorithm or something?

    • @tuckerhenrikson7709
      @tuckerhenrikson7709 3 года назад

      @@roberthawks1084 Yeah

    • @roberthawks1084
      @roberthawks1084 3 года назад

      @@tuckerhenrikson7709 lol

    • @mastatoe
      @mastatoe 3 года назад

      They put doom eternal marauder and doom eternal dlc trailer, how desperate is this guy to get people to watch his videos

  • @rikybj0276
    @rikybj0276 2 года назад

    8:21 "RESOOOOLVE"

  • @red-ops9813
    @red-ops9813 3 года назад

    What are the other smaller life spheres that are stored around father’s and Dark lord’s life spheres?

  • @craigeichler8351
    @craigeichler8351 3 года назад +1

    Is it possible for the game Ancient gods part 2 if doom slayer is ready for RIP and tur attack dark lord

  • @generalseal6948
    @generalseal6948 3 года назад

    Midnight be like: have I ever told you the tragedy of the saraphim

  • @Arbiter-mk4ew
    @Arbiter-mk4ew 3 года назад

    I needed to watch this video, I couldn't make sense that Samuel Hayden was the Seraphim before the DLC

    • @ExodusHunter15
      @ExodusHunter15 3 года назад +2

      It was pretty obvious even before the DLC that Hayden was the seraphim. First they had VERY similar names "Samur" and "Samuel".
      The both say the exact same line in doom 2016 and eternal "I offer you a gift, take it, it will give you strength, help you on your journey". When the slayer is at the divinity machine in Taras Nabad and when getting the first argent cell in 2016.
      Finally the fact Hayden knows so much about hell and urdak in eternal, there is no way he could have found this info from simply reading the corax tablets

    • @Arbiter-mk4ew
      @Arbiter-mk4ew 3 года назад

      Thank you, I hadn't noticed those details while playing Eternal Doom and I quickly forgot a few things about Doom 2016

  • @chiefdeep
    @chiefdeep 3 года назад +1

    Hayden is probably the seraphim, because when you entered to the holt and see seraphim, he would say "hes the one who gave you power" even though he never had hayden back then when he went into the divinity machine.

  • @jodybranson925
    @jodybranson925 3 года назад

    Acidglow: cover's the lore of gears of war, aliens vs predator, predator, Doom and lore from other games, movies and comic books ( or graphic novels )
    Midnight: covers the lore of Doom, halo and maybe gears of war or wolfenstein.
    Acidglow: I tip my hat to you, one legend to another.

  • @vergiltheartofpower6616
    @vergiltheartofpower6616 3 года назад

    So the UAC could have tidbits of maykr technology or Sentinel Technology on their hands when Samur is at a human body name Samuel Hayden? Could it be?

  • @mabes448
    @mabes448 3 года назад +1

    At the end I'm just wondering why didnt samuel just transfer his mind into a different machine or body a body of sorts lime a angel? He done it like twice

  • @shittymicgaming5137
    @shittymicgaming5137 3 года назад

    Can you make a vid about why the slayer did not destroy the devils lige sphere

  • @JohnA...
    @JohnA... 3 года назад

    ...so who are all those other smaller spheres surrounding the Father and Devil? They don't seem to just be fancy lights, they are far too similar while a bit smaller than the other two spheres.