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I am also a son of british army so wanna salute brave gurkhas from my inner heart jai nepal
Real Hero Rajesh hamal Sir🙏good point
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Rajesh hamal ji can you do interview with one of the represent of MOD uk and question about retired Gurkhas unequal pension.thank u
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The history of the Limbus, who originally hailed from Sichuan and later sought refuge in Nepal and Sikkim, is marked by a series of opportunistic betrayals that significantly altered the region's political landscape in the 19th century. By aligning themselves with the British, the Limbus played a pivotal role in reducing the borders of both Nepal and Sikkim. Limbus’ actions, aimed at pleasing their British masters, led to their elevation to first-class citizen status in newly conquered British territories, while other local ethnic groups were relegated to second-class citizenship.
The Origins of the Limbus
The Limbus were not originally indigenous to Nepal or Sikkim. They were refugees from Sichuan who fled the Mongol expansion into northern Tibet during the 13th century. In their quest for safety, they migrated from Tibet to the eastern regions of Nepal and Sikkim. Seeking refuge, they settled under the protection of the Sen Thakuris and the Lepcha tribe, integrating themselves into the local communities.
The Anglo-Nepalese War: The First Act of Betrayal
The Anglo-Nepalese War (1814-1816) marked the first significant instance of the Limbus’ betrayal. Despite being subjects of the Gorkha rulers in Nepal, the Limbus chose to support the British invasion of eastern Nepal. Leveraging their intimate knowledge of the local terrain and conditions, the Limbus provided intelligence and support to the British forces. Their decision to aid the British was motivated by the hope of gaining favor and rewards.
Although the British were not immediately successful in their campaign, the Limbus’ initial act of betrayal laid the groundwork for future alliances. This action demonstrated their willingness to collaborate with foreign powers against their own rulers, a move that would have lasting repercussions.
The Darjeeling Accord: Shifting Allegiances
The Limbus’ betrayal became more evident during the events surrounding the Darjeeling region in the mid-19th century. In 1835, the British sought to secure the Darjeeling region from the Kingdom of Sikkim. The Limbus, with their deep understanding of the region's political and geographical intricacies, played a crucial role in facilitating this transfer of power. Their cooperation with the British ensured that Darjeeling came under British control, significantly weakening Sikkim's territorial integrity.
This betrayal was driven by the Limbus’ desire for autonomy and recognition from the British. By aiding the British in securing Darjeeling, they hoped to receive land and privileges, solidifying their status under British rule. This opportunistic behavior further strained their relationships with neighboring ethnic groups and rulers, particularly the Gorkhas of Nepal.
The Protectorate of Sikkim: The Ultimate Betrayal
The culmination of the Limbus’ betrayal occurred in 1861 when they assisted the British in making Sikkim a protectorate. The Kingdom of Sikkim, weakened by internal strife and external threats, was vulnerable to British manipulation. The Limbus seized this opportunity to align themselves with the British, facilitating negotiations and ensuring that British strategic interests were met.
This alliance with the British was seen as a profound betrayal by both Nepal and Sikkim. By aiding the British in establishing control over Sikkim, the Limbus directly contributed to the reduction of the region's autonomy and territorial sovereignty. The once-independent kingdom of Sikkim was now under the effective control of the British, thanks in large part to the Limbus’ actions.
Rewards and Consequences
In recognition of their critical role in British successes in Darjeeling and Sikkim, the Limbus were granted land and a degree of autonomy within British-controlled territories. However, the most significant reward was their elevation to first-class citizen status in the newly conquered British lands. This privileged status allowed them greater opportunities and benefits under British rule.
In contrast, other ethnic groups such as the Lepchas, Bhutias, Khas Aryas, and Newars were relegated to second-class citizenship. These groups were seen as less loyal to the British due to their historical resistance and lack of collaboration. As second-class citizens, they faced numerous disadvantages and discriminatory policies that limited their opportunities and rights.
The Gorkhas, the historical rulers of the Limbus, viewed these actions as deep betrayals that undermined their sovereignty and territorial integrity. The Limbus’ alignment with the British had far-reaching consequences for the region. By aiding the British in their territorial ambitions, the Limbus not only secured their own privileges but also played a key role in shortening the borders of both Nepal and Sikkim. Their actions facilitated the expansion of British influence in the region, leading to the diminishment of local autonomy and control.
Recruitment into the British Army
The final chapter in the Limbus’ betrayal was their recruitment into the British Indian Army. Starting in 1914, the British began recruiting the Limbus as Gurkha mercenaries, recognizing their martial skills and the value of their strategic contributions in previous decades. This recruitment was a testament to the trust and value the British placed in the Limbus, who had proven themselves reliable allies in undermining Nepalese and Sikkimese sovereignty.
By serving in the British Army, the Limbus further solidified their alliance with the colonial powers. This relationship provided them with new opportunities and recognition but also cemented their role as betrayers in the eyes of their former rulers and neighbors.
@@user-tg5ut6ic8l Your claims are not only misleading but also a blatant attempt to rewrite history with no basis in fact. It's laughable to say that the Limbus and Rais have no archaeological evidence of their presence and influence in Eastern Nepal when the Kirata dynasty, which includes the Limbus and Rais, ruled long before the arrival of any Brahmins.
Solid Proof of Indigenous Status:
Archaeological Evidence: Numerous archaeological sites and artifacts across Eastern Nepal and Sikkim clearly indicate the presence of the Kiratas, including the Limbus and Rais, long before the 19th century. These include ancient inscriptions, fortifications, and relics found in regions like the Kathmandu Valley and eastern hills, which are dated back to the Kirati period.
Historical Records: Licchavi inscriptions and Newari chronicles from centuries ago document the rule and influence of the Kirata tribes, which were well-established long before the arrival of Brahmins in the region. These records confirm the historical prominence of the Limbus and Rais.
Cultural Heritage: The rich cultural heritage of the Limbus and Rais, including the Sirijonga script and Mundhum oral scriptures, clearly show a long-standing civilization. These traditions predate British involvement and show deep roots in the region.
Brahmins as Refugees:
Historical Migration: It's well-documented that Brahmins migrated to the hills of Nepal from Bihar after the Mughal invasions. This makes them the actual refugees, who later allied themselves with the Khas people of Western Nepal.
Integration Strategy: These Brahmin refugees cleverly integrated themselves with the Khas community to secure their position and influence in the region, unlike the Limbus and Rais, who were already indigenous and established.
Addressing False Information:
Your spamming of false information everywhere is not only misleading but also illegal. Spreading such misinformation can lead to legal consequences. It's essential to stop falsifying history and respect the verified facts. The indigenous status of the Limbus and Rais is backed by solid archaeological, historical, and cultural evidence, unlike the baseless claims you're promoting.
It's time to confront the truth: The Limbus and Rais are the indigenous people of Eastern Nepal and Sikkim, with a rich history that predates any Brahmin influence. Your attempts to distort this reality only serve to highlight your lack of understanding and respect for the true history of the region.
Gret veus about the age
I know about this matter, I am not ex army, but related to this subject, son of ex army and served in the British projects.
गोर्खा भर्ती केन्द्र नै बन्द गरिनुपर्छ।
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भारत तो बहुत सुंदर
भर्तीकाे माेह छाेडनपर्छ, ब्यपार र उधाेग अविस्कातिर लागनुपर्याे
The history of the Limbus, who originally hailed from Sichuan and later sought refuge in Nepal and Sikkim, is marked by a series of opportunistic betrayals that significantly altered the region's political landscape in the 19th century. By aligning themselves with the British, the Limbus played a pivotal role in reducing the borders of both Nepal and Sikkim. Limbus’ actions, aimed at pleasing their British masters, led to their elevation to first-class citizen status in newly conquered British territories, while other local ethnic groups were relegated to second-class citizenship.
The Origins of the Limbus
The Limbus were not originally indigenous to Nepal or Sikkim. They were refugees from Sichuan who fled the Mongol expansion into northern Tibet during the 13th century. In their quest for safety, they migrated from Tibet to the eastern regions of Nepal and Sikkim. Seeking refuge, they settled under the protection of the Sen Thakuris and the Lepcha tribe, integrating themselves into the local communities.
The Anglo-Nepalese War: The First Act of Betrayal
The Anglo-Nepalese War (1814-1816) marked the first significant instance of the Limbus’ betrayal. Despite being subjects of the Gorkha rulers in Nepal, the Limbus chose to support the British invasion of eastern Nepal. Leveraging their intimate knowledge of the local terrain and conditions, the Limbus provided intelligence and support to the British forces. Their decision to aid the British was motivated by the hope of gaining favor and rewards.
Although the British were not immediately successful in their campaign, the Limbus’ initial act of betrayal laid the groundwork for future alliances. This action demonstrated their willingness to collaborate with foreign powers against their own rulers, a move that would have lasting repercussions.
The Darjeeling Accord: Shifting Allegiances
The Limbus’ betrayal became more evident during the events surrounding the Darjeeling region in the mid-19th century. In 1835, the British sought to secure the Darjeeling region from the Kingdom of Sikkim. The Limbus, with their deep understanding of the region's political and geographical intricacies, played a crucial role in facilitating this transfer of power. Their cooperation with the British ensured that Darjeeling came under British control, significantly weakening Sikkim's territorial integrity.
This betrayal was driven by the Limbus’ desire for autonomy and recognition from the British. By aiding the British in securing Darjeeling, they hoped to receive land and privileges, solidifying their status under British rule. This opportunistic behavior further strained their relationships with neighboring ethnic groups and rulers, particularly the Gorkhas of Nepal.
The Protectorate of Sikkim: The Ultimate Betrayal
The culmination of the Limbus’ betrayal occurred in 1861 when they assisted the British in making Sikkim a protectorate. The Kingdom of Sikkim, weakened by internal strife and external threats, was vulnerable to British manipulation. The Limbus seized this opportunity to align themselves with the British, facilitating negotiations and ensuring that British strategic interests were met.
This alliance with the British was seen as a profound betrayal by both Nepal and Sikkim. By aiding the British in establishing control over Sikkim, the Limbus directly contributed to the reduction of the region's autonomy and territorial sovereignty. The once-independent kingdom of Sikkim was now under the effective control of the British, thanks in large part to the Limbus’ actions.
Rewards and Consequences
In recognition of their critical role in British successes in Darjeeling and Sikkim, the Limbus were granted land and a degree of autonomy within British-controlled territories. However, the most significant reward was their elevation to first-class citizen status in the newly conquered British lands. This privileged status allowed them greater opportunities and benefits under British rule.
In contrast, other ethnic groups such as the Lepchas, Bhutias, Khas Aryas, and Newars were relegated to second-class citizenship. These groups were seen as less loyal to the British due to their historical resistance and lack of collaboration. As second-class citizens, they faced numerous disadvantages and discriminatory policies that limited their opportunities and rights.
The Gorkhas, the historical rulers of the Limbus, viewed these actions as deep betrayals that undermined their sovereignty and territorial integrity. The Limbus’ alignment with the British had far-reaching consequences for the region. By aiding the British in their territorial ambitions, the Limbus not only secured their own privileges but also played a key role in shortening the borders of both Nepal and Sikkim. Their actions facilitated the expansion of British influence in the region, leading to the diminishment of local autonomy and control.
Recruitment into the British Army
The final chapter in the Limbus’ betrayal was their recruitment into the British Indian Army. Starting in 1914, the British began recruiting the Limbus as Gurkha mercenaries, recognizing their martial skills and the value of their strategic contributions in previous decades. This recruitment was a testament to the trust and value the British placed in the Limbus, who had proven themselves reliable allies in undermining Nepalese and Sikkimese sovereignty.
By serving in the British Army, the Limbus further solidified their alliance with the colonial powers. This relationship provided them with new opportunities and recognition but also cemented their role as betrayers in the eyes of their former rulers and neighbors.
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Indian gorkha army ❤️
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गोराहरुले अन्यायपूर्ण काम गर्छन् भन्ने कुरा गोरखा सैनिकको व्यवहारले हेर्दाखेरि प्रमाणित भो
The Fabricated Kirat Myth: Lack of Archaeological Evidence for Limbu-Kirat Connection
Recent archaeological discoveries in Nepal have shed new light on the ancient history of the region, providing tangible evidence of the presence and influence of various ethnic groups. However, these findings directly contradict the mythical narrative of a unified "Kirat" kingdom or lineage that has been promoted by certain Limbu and Rai groups.
Excavations of Licchavi period temples dedicated to Hindu deities like Shiva and Ram, as well as remnants of Khas Malla and Katyuri era architecture, clearly demonstrate the historical significance of Indo-Aryan cultures in Nepal. Numerous inscriptions in archaic forms of the Nepali language have been uncovered at these sites, attesting to the widespread use of Indo-Aryan languages long before the Limbus and Rais arrived in the region.
In contrast, there is a complete lack of archaeological or epigraphic evidence linking the Limbus and Rais to any ancient "Kirat" civilization or kingdom. No Limbu or Rai inscriptions, temples, or other structures dating back more than a few centuries have been discovered. This stands in stark contrast to the abundant material proof of the Khas, Newar, and other Nepali ethnic groups' deep roots in the region.
The Limbu and Rai claims of being the indigenous "Kirat" people are further undermined by historical records and linguistic analysis. Scholars have traced the migration of Limbu and Rai communities from Tibet and China to eastern Nepal and Sikkim only in the 13th-16th centuries CE, centuries after the Khas, Newar, and other groups had already established themselves in the region.
In short, while the Khas, Newar, and other Nepali ethnicities have a well-documented history stretching back over a millennium, the Limbus and Rais are relative newcomers to the area. Their mythical "Kirat" narrative, promoted with the patronage of the British colonial authorities in Darjeeling, is not supported by any concrete archaeological, epigraphic, or historical evidence. It appears to be a fabrication designed to elevate the status of these groups at the expense of Nepal's true indigenous peoples.
As more archaeological discoveries are made and historical research continues, the true diversity and complexity of Nepal's past is being uncovered. The Limbu and Rai "Kirat" myth is being systematically dismantled by the weight of empirical evidence. It is time to acknowledge the rich, multilayered history of Nepal's ethnic groups, rather than promoting the revisionist agenda of certain opportunistic communities.
लाहुरे भएर पैसा कमाउँदा सम्म गोरा साप भन्दै Salute ठोक्यो।पेन्सन दिएर नेपाल पठाएसी रक्सी र रमाइलो मा पैसा सक्यो अहिले गोरा लाई गाली गर्दै छ।नेपाल मा विभेद गरेको छ मूलबासी लाई कमसेकम गोरा हरु ले लेखमा,पढ्न र दुनिया बुझ्ने मौका त दिए।लाहुरे हुदा सम्म राम्रो ,लाहुरे को म्याद सकेर पद नपाएसी खराब भन्दै हिड्ने ।गोरा भन्दा नेपाल सरकार सँग अधिकार खोज मूर्ख हरु।
@@RavishPatel-q2t Enough with your ridiculous claims and fabricated nonsense. Let's break down why your so-called "facts" are just baseless drivel.
First off, the Kirat identity isn't some recent invention. Historical texts like the Mahabharata and the Vishnu Purana mention the Kiratas, an ancient people inhabiting the Himalayan region. The Rai and Limbu communities have been integral parts of the Kirat lineage, and their cultural heritage predates your revisionist nonsense by centuries.
Lack of Archaeological Evidence:
Your claim about a "lack of archaeological evidence" is laughable. Just because there aren't grand palaces or temples doesn't mean a civilization didn't exist. The Kirat people, including the Rais and Limbus, traditionally lived in simpler structures suited to their environment. Their history is preserved through oral traditions, cultural practices, and ancient texts.
While it's true that Indo-Aryan inscriptions and architecture are more prominent, it doesn't negate the presence of other groups. Different civilizations have different ways of leaving their marks, and the absence of one type of evidence isn't proof of non-existence.
Historical Records and Linguistic Analysis:
Migration patterns are complex and don't fit into your neat, biased narrative. The Rai and Limbu people have long been established in Eastern Nepal, with cultural and linguistic ties to the region going back centuries. The suggestion that they only arrived in the 13th-16th centuries is an oversimplification that ignores the nuanced history of human movement and settlement.
British Patronage:
The idea that the British somehow invented the Kirat identity is absurd. The British recognized and documented existing social structures for their administrative convenience. They didn't create them. The Kirat identity existed long before British colonial influence and continues to be a significant part of Nepal's ethnic tapestry.
Genetic Evidence:
Genetic studies show that the Rai and Limbu people have distinct markers that tie them to the region. Their ancestry includes elements from both the Mongoloid and Indo-Aryan gene pools, reflecting the complex and intertwined history of South Asia.
In conclusion, your argument is nothing more than a poorly constructed attempt to discredit the rich and diverse history of the Rai and Limbu people. Your reliance on cherry-picked evidence and misleading claims doesn't hold up to scrutiny. The Kirat identity, with its deep historical roots and cultural significance, stands strong against your baseless accusations. So, spare us your pseudo-historical garbage and stop spreading misinformation.
@@RavishPatel-q2t Enough with your ridiculous claims and fabricated nonsense. Let's break down why your so-called "facts" are just baseless drivel.
First off, the Kirat identity isn't some recent invention. Historical texts like the Mahabharata and the Vishnu Purana mention the Kiratas, an ancient people inhabiting the Himalayan region. The Rai and Limbu communities have been integral parts of the Kirat lineage, and their cultural heritage predates your revisionist nonsense by centuries.
Lack of Archaeological Evidence:
Your claim about a "lack of archaeological evidence" is laughable. Just because there aren't grand palaces or temples doesn't mean a civilization didn't exist. The Kirat people, including the Rais and Limbus, traditionally lived in simpler structures suited to their environment. Their history is preserved through oral traditions, cultural practices, and ancient texts.
While it's true that Indo-Aryan inscriptions and architecture are more prominent, it doesn't negate the presence of other groups. Different civilizations have different ways of leaving their marks, and the absence of one type of evidence isn't proof of non-existence.
Historical Records and Linguistic Analysis:
Migration patterns are complex and don't fit into your neat, biased narrative. The Rai and Limbu people have long been established in Eastern Nepal, with cultural and linguistic ties to the region going back centuries. The suggestion that they only arrived in the 13th-16th centuries is an oversimplification that ignores the nuanced history of human movement and settlement.
British Patronage:
The idea that the British somehow invented the Kirat identity is absurd. The British recognized and documented existing social structures for their administrative convenience. They didn't create them. The Kirat identity existed long before British colonial influence and continues to be a significant part of Nepal's ethnic tapestry.
Genetic Evidence:
Genetic studies show that the Rai and Limbu people have distinct markers that tie them to the region. Their ancestry includes elements from both the Mongoloid and Indo-Aryan gene pools, reflecting the complex and intertwined history of South Asia.
In conclusion, your argument is nothing more than a poorly constructed attempt to discredit the rich and diverse history of the Rai and Limbu people. Your reliance on cherry-picked evidence and misleading claims doesn't hold up to scrutiny. The Kirat identity, with its deep historical roots and cultural significance, stands strong against your baseless accusations. So, spare us your pseudo-historical garbage and stop spreading misinformation.
The history of the Limbus, who originally hailed from Sichuan and later sought refuge in Nepal and Sikkim, is marked by a series of opportunistic betrayals that significantly altered the region's political landscape in the 19th century. By aligning themselves with the British, the Limbus played a pivotal role in reducing the borders of both Nepal and Sikkim. Limbus’ actions, aimed at pleasing their British masters, led to their elevation to first-class citizen status in newly conquered British territories, while other local ethnic groups were relegated to second-class citizenship.
The Origins of the Limbus
The Limbus were not originally indigenous to Nepal or Sikkim. They were refugees from Sichuan who fled the Mongol expansion into northern Tibet during the 13th century. In their quest for safety, they migrated from Tibet to the eastern regions of Nepal and Sikkim. Seeking refuge, they settled under the protection of the Sen Thakuris and the Lepcha tribe, integrating themselves into the local communities.
The Anglo-Nepalese War: The First Act of Betrayal
The Anglo-Nepalese War (1814-1816) marked the first significant instance of the Limbus’ betrayal. Despite being subjects of the Gorkha rulers in Nepal, the Limbus chose to support the British invasion of eastern Nepal. Leveraging their intimate knowledge of the local terrain and conditions, the Limbus provided intelligence and support to the British forces. Their decision to aid the British was motivated by the hope of gaining favor and rewards.
Although the British were not immediately successful in their campaign, the Limbus’ initial act of betrayal laid the groundwork for future alliances. This action demonstrated their willingness to collaborate with foreign powers against their own rulers, a move that would have lasting repercussions.
The Darjeeling Accord: Shifting Allegiances
The Limbus’ betrayal became more evident during the events surrounding the Darjeeling region in the mid-19th century. In 1835, the British sought to secure the Darjeeling region from the Kingdom of Sikkim. The Limbus, with their deep understanding of the region's political and geographical intricacies, played a crucial role in facilitating this transfer of power. Their cooperation with the British ensured that Darjeeling came under British control, significantly weakening Sikkim's territorial integrity.
This betrayal was driven by the Limbus’ desire for autonomy and recognition from the British. By aiding the British in securing Darjeeling, they hoped to receive land and privileges, solidifying their status under British rule. This opportunistic behavior further strained their relationships with neighboring ethnic groups and rulers, particularly the Gorkhas of Nepal.
The Protectorate of Sikkim: The Ultimate Betrayal
The culmination of the Limbus’ betrayal occurred in 1861 when they assisted the British in making Sikkim a protectorate. The Kingdom of Sikkim, weakened by internal strife and external threats, was vulnerable to British manipulation. The Limbus seized this opportunity to align themselves with the British, facilitating negotiations and ensuring that British strategic interests were met.
This alliance with the British was seen as a profound betrayal by both Nepal and Sikkim. By aiding the British in establishing control over Sikkim, the Limbus directly contributed to the reduction of the region's autonomy and territorial sovereignty. The once-independent kingdom of Sikkim was now under the effective control of the British, thanks in large part to the Limbus’ actions.
Rewards and Consequences
In recognition of their critical role in British successes in Darjeeling and Sikkim, the Limbus were granted land and a degree of autonomy within British-controlled territories. However, the most significant reward was their elevation to first-class citizen status in the newly conquered British lands. This privileged status allowed them greater opportunities and benefits under British rule.
In contrast, other ethnic groups such as the Lepchas, Bhutias, Khas Aryas, and Newars were relegated to second-class citizenship. These groups were seen as less loyal to the British due to their historical resistance and lack of collaboration. As second-class citizens, they faced numerous disadvantages and discriminatory policies that limited their opportunities and rights.
The Gorkhas, the historical rulers of the Limbus, viewed these actions as deep betrayals that undermined their sovereignty and territorial integrity. The Limbus’ alignment with the British had far-reaching consequences for the region. By aiding the British in their territorial ambitions, the Limbus not only secured their own privileges but also played a key role in shortening the borders of both Nepal and Sikkim. Their actions facilitated the expansion of British influence in the region, leading to the diminishment of local autonomy and control.
Recruitment into the British Army
The final chapter in the Limbus’ betrayal was their recruitment into the British Indian Army. Starting in 1914, the British began recruiting the Limbus as Gurkha mercenaries, recognizing their martial skills and the value of their strategic contributions in previous decades. This recruitment was a testament to the trust and value the British placed in the Limbus, who had proven themselves reliable allies in undermining Nepalese and Sikkimese sovereignty.
By serving in the British Army, the Limbus further solidified their alliance with the colonial powers. This relationship provided them with new opportunities and recognition but also cemented their role as betrayers in the eyes of their former rulers and neighbors.
प्रयोग मात्र गर्यो!
Sahi vanai ho hjr ko Ani yo bahaduri ko naam ma yasari nepali lai Kun halat ma purairaheko xa kahile bujhne ho?
Rajesh jii british government ko MOD bujnu
तै पनि ब्रिटिसमा भर्ति हुन मरिहत्ते गर्छन् , यो भन्यो भने नेपाल मा रोजगार छैन बाध्यताले हो भन्छन् ,बाध्यताले भएपनि भर्ति भए ल ब्यवहार त समान हुनुपर्ने हो गोर्खाली गोरा हरुले जस्तै ।
Yini bir hoin Kamara haru ho kinki kamaro haru arkako laagi marchha ramauchhau bir haru ta aafno simana aafno ghar ko laagi satru sang antim swas rahunjhel ladchha aafno ko laagi ho yinka purkha bir thiye Aaj yiniharu kamaro kaayer hun
राई र लिम्बूहरू चीनको सिचुवान प्रान्तबाट aaeka आप्रवासी हुन्, जसले विभिन्न समयका दौरान विभिन्न क्षेत्रमा शरण लिएका छन्। सिचुवानबाट उत्तर तिब्बतसम्मको यात्रा राई र लिम्बूहरूको यात्रा सिचुवान प्रान्तबाट सुरु भएको हो। १३औं शताब्दीमा, मंगोलहरूको आक्रमणका कारण उनीहरूको जीवनमा ठूलो उथलपुथल आयो र उनीहरूले आफ्नो मातृभूमि छोड्न बाध्य भए। यस कठिन समयमा, उनीहरूले उत्तर तिब्बतमा शरण लिए, जहाँ उनीहरूले केही समय बसोबास गरे। उत्तर तिब्बतबाट नेपालसम्मको यात्रा उत्तर तिब्बतमा पनि आन्तरिक संघर्ष र अस्थिरताका कारण, राई र लिम्बूहरूले अर्को सुरक्षित ठाउँको खोजीमा १६औं शताब्दीमा नेपालतर्फ यात्रा गरे। नेपालमा, उनीहरूले सेन राजाहरू र लेप्चा समुदायको संरक्षण पाए। यसरी, उनीहरूलाई बसोबासका लागि भूमि दिइयो र उनीहरूले आफ्नो नयाँ जीवनको सुरुवात गरे।
सिक्किममा पनि, उनीहरूले भुटिया चोग्यालहरूको संरक्षण पाए र आफ्नो बसोबासको प्रबन्ध मिलाए। राई र लिम्बूहरूको मंगोलियन डीएनएको प्रमाणले उनीहरूको सिचुवानबाट आप्रवासनको तथ्यलाई पुष्टि गर्छ। विभिन्न आनुवांशिक अध्ययनहरूले उनीहरूमा उच्च मात्रामा मंगोलियन र उत्तर चीनको डीएनएको उपस्थिति देखाएको छ, जसले उनीहरूलाई भारतीय उपमहाद्वीपका अन्य तिब्बती-बर्मेली समूहहरूसँग फरक पार्छ। उनीहरूको सांस्कृतिक अभ्यास, भाषा र परम्पराहरू पनि उत्तर चीन र मंगोलियाका समुदायहरूसँग नजिक देखिन्छ, जुन उनीहरूको वास्तविक उत्पत्तिको प्रमाण हो। किरात पहिचानको निर्माण राई र लिम्बूहरूले किरात पहिचानलाई अंगीकार गरेर आफ्नो ऐतिहासिक अस्तित्वलाई झुटा रूपमा प्रमाणित गर्न प्रयास गरेका छन्। यद्यपि, किरात वंशावलीसँग उनीहरूको कुनै ठोस पुरातात्विक वा ऐतिहासिक प्रमाण छैन। प्रसिद्ध लिम्बू इतिहासकार इमान सिंह चेम्जोङले किरात पहिचानलाई बढावा दिन महत्वपूर्ण भूमिका खेलेका थिए, जसले राई र लिम्बू समुदायलाई किरात वंशमा समावेश गरिएको झुटा धारणा फैलाए।
Ho ra
Hami nepali aarkai ko des ma jiyan falna tayar xau apaman sahana tayar xau j kam pani garna tayar xau sab paisa ko lagi matra tara des ma kehi garna sakyanau.. yahi chalan le aaja des ma uba xaina
नेपाल आमा एउटा् असल सासक जन्माउन सब नेपालि नेपाल मै बसौन
First ma British recruitment band garda ramro .
Bahadur ko name ma gora le pura luteko chha .
Hamro desh khaya ko nai gora le ho actually. Indian army ma kunai pani bivedh xain Nepali educational system ma pani offrs Huna sakinxa baki rajye le sochnu party tq sir❤
Bhanis hijo naam Pani Lekhna najanni..bolna Pani najanni haru lai Duniya Dekhaera ..Lekhna Ra bolna Sikayu.. jasle Afno Gaughar.Pariwar KO bhabisya banayu ahile tyu Gora haru lai Gali gardai cha..Nepal ma bhako bhae kun chepata ma basera din katdai hunthyu..K hi sip ra talim deara Pathaeko ho Nepal ma tara k garne Nepal sarkal le kahile Bhupu lahure haru KO talent lai bujena ra Gora le deako Pension ma tax lagaera Nepal Sarkar le Lootdai cha.
@@Narjun94हाम्रो आफ्नै भाषा थियो, भेषभुषा र लिपि थियो! गोराले सिकायो रे आफ्नो गुरुकुल मासेर विदेशी वस्तुहरू आयात गर्ने बानी परेर हामी तल परेका हौ
Arkako desh ma naukri garnu janu bhanda AFNO desh ma kaam garera desh lai agi barako ramro ho. furukka paryo bhandai furkinu hudaina
@@somtsheringlepcha7321 देशलाई अघि बढाउन देशसँग नै कुनै योजना छैन! भ्रष्टाचार, कमिसन र शोसकको खेल छ! नीति छैन, त्यसैले नेपाललाई माथि उठ्न गाह्रो भएको हो!
Tara ahile uha harule awaj uthayera nai ho.. ahile dherai sudhar aaisako.. ahile varti hune wala harulai ta testo naramro gardainn....❤
The history of the Limbus, who originally hailed from Sichuan and later sought refuge in Nepal and Sikkim, is marked by a series of opportunistic betrayals that significantly altered the region's political landscape in the 19th century. By aligning themselves with the British, the Limbus played a pivotal role in reducing the borders of both Nepal and Sikkim. Limbus’ actions, aimed at pleasing their British masters, led to their elevation to first-class citizen status in newly conquered British territories, while other local ethnic groups were relegated to second-class citizenship.
The Origins of the Limbus
The Limbus were not originally indigenous to Nepal or Sikkim. They were refugees from Sichuan who fled the Mongol expansion into northern Tibet during the 13th century. In their quest for safety, they migrated from Tibet to the eastern regions of Nepal and Sikkim. Seeking refuge, they settled under the protection of the Sen Thakuris and the Lepcha tribe, integrating themselves into the local communities.
The Anglo-Nepalese War: The First Act of Betrayal
The Anglo-Nepalese War (1814-1816) marked the first significant instance of the Limbus’ betrayal. Despite being subjects of the Gorkha rulers in Nepal, the Limbus chose to support the British invasion of eastern Nepal. Leveraging their intimate knowledge of the local terrain and conditions, the Limbus provided intelligence and support to the British forces. Their decision to aid the British was motivated by the hope of gaining favor and rewards.
Although the British were not immediately successful in their campaign, the Limbus’ initial act of betrayal laid the groundwork for future alliances. This action demonstrated their willingness to collaborate with foreign powers against their own rulers, a move that would have lasting repercussions.
The Darjeeling Accord: Shifting Allegiances
The Limbus’ betrayal became more evident during the events surrounding the Darjeeling region in the mid-19th century. In 1835, the British sought to secure the Darjeeling region from the Kingdom of Sikkim. The Limbus, with their deep understanding of the region's political and geographical intricacies, played a crucial role in facilitating this transfer of power. Their cooperation with the British ensured that Darjeeling came under British control, significantly weakening Sikkim's territorial integrity.
This betrayal was driven by the Limbus’ desire for autonomy and recognition from the British. By aiding the British in securing Darjeeling, they hoped to receive land and privileges, solidifying their status under British rule. This opportunistic behavior further strained their relationships with neighboring ethnic groups and rulers, particularly the Gorkhas of Nepal.
The Protectorate of Sikkim: The Ultimate Betrayal
The culmination of the Limbus’ betrayal occurred in 1861 when they assisted the British in making Sikkim a protectorate. The Kingdom of Sikkim, weakened by internal strife and external threats, was vulnerable to British manipulation. The Limbus seized this opportunity to align themselves with the British, facilitating negotiations and ensuring that British strategic interests were met.
This alliance with the British was seen as a profound betrayal by both Nepal and Sikkim. By aiding the British in establishing control over Sikkim, the Limbus directly contributed to the reduction of the region's autonomy and territorial sovereignty. The once-independent kingdom of Sikkim was now under the effective control of the British, thanks in large part to the Limbus’ actions.
Rewards and Consequences
In recognition of their critical role in British successes in Darjeeling and Sikkim, the Limbus were granted land and a degree of autonomy within British-controlled territories. However, the most significant reward was their elevation to first-class citizen status in the newly conquered British lands. This privileged status allowed them greater opportunities and benefits under British rule.
In contrast, other ethnic groups such as the Lepchas, Bhutias, Khas Aryas, and Newars were relegated to second-class citizenship. These groups were seen as less loyal to the British due to their historical resistance and lack of collaboration. As second-class citizens, they faced numerous disadvantages and discriminatory policies that limited their opportunities and rights.
The Gorkhas, the historical rulers of the Limbus, viewed these actions as deep betrayals that undermined their sovereignty and territorial integrity. The Limbus’ alignment with the British had far-reaching consequences for the region. By aiding the British in their territorial ambitions, the Limbus not only secured their own privileges but also played a key role in shortening the borders of both Nepal and Sikkim. Their actions facilitated the expansion of British influence in the region, leading to the diminishment of local autonomy and control.
Recruitment into the British Army
The final chapter in the Limbus’ betrayal was their recruitment into the British Indian Army. Starting in 1914, the British began recruiting the Limbus as Gurkha mercenaries, recognizing their martial skills and the value of their strategic contributions in previous decades. This recruitment was a testament to the trust and value the British placed in the Limbus, who had proven themselves reliable allies in undermining Nepalese and Sikkimese sovereignty.
By serving in the British Army, the Limbus further solidified their alliance with the colonial powers. This relationship provided them with new opportunities and recognition but also cemented their role as betrayers in the eyes of their former rulers and neighbors.
@@user-tg5ut6ic8l Your claims are not only misleading but also a blatant attempt to rewrite history with no basis in fact. It's laughable to say that the Limbus and Rais have no archaeological evidence of their presence and influence in Eastern Nepal when the Kirata dynasty, which includes the Limbus and Rais, ruled long before the arrival of any Brahmins.
Solid Proof of Indigenous Status:
Archaeological Evidence: Numerous archaeological sites and artifacts across Eastern Nepal and Sikkim clearly indicate the presence of the Kiratas, including the Limbus and Rais, long before the 19th century. These include ancient inscriptions, fortifications, and relics found in regions like the Kathmandu Valley and eastern hills, which are dated back to the Kirati period.
Historical Records: Licchavi inscriptions and Newari chronicles from centuries ago document the rule and influence of the Kirata tribes, which were well-established long before the arrival of Brahmins in the region. These records confirm the historical prominence of the Limbus and Rais.
Cultural Heritage: The rich cultural heritage of the Limbus and Rais, including the Sirijonga script and Mundhum oral scriptures, clearly show a long-standing civilization. These traditions predate British involvement and show deep roots in the region.
Brahmins as Refugees:
Historical Migration: It's well-documented that Brahmins migrated to the hills of Nepal from Bihar after the Mughal invasions. This makes them the actual refugees, who later allied themselves with the Khas people of Western Nepal.
Integration Strategy: These Brahmin refugees cleverly integrated themselves with the Khas community to secure their position and influence in the region, unlike the Limbus and Rais, who were already indigenous and established.
Addressing False Information:
Your spamming of false information everywhere is not only misleading but also illegal. Spreading such misinformation can lead to legal consequences. It's essential to stop falsifying history and respect the verified facts. The indigenous status of the Limbus and Rais is backed by solid archaeological, historical, and cultural evidence, unlike the baseless claims you're promoting.
It's time to confront the truth: The Limbus and Rais are the indigenous people of Eastern Nepal and Sikkim, with a rich history that predates any Brahmin influence. Your attempts to distort this reality only serve to highlight your lack of understanding and respect for the true history of the region.
Lahure varti banda garnu parx
दु:खद पक्ष 😱। वास्तविकता यहि हो, यहाँ प्रती संमान छ 🌼🙏🌼 । यी नागरिक र राज्यले यो कुरा कहिले बुझ्ला 🤔। साम्राज्यवादले कहिल्यै कम्जोर देशलाई संमान र सहयोग गर्दैन कहिलेकाही घाँस हाल्छ त्यो सहयोग बुझ्ने मुर्खता हो !! यहाँ तिनका दलालहरु ठुलो कुरा गर्छन् 🤗
The history of the Limbus, who originally hailed from Sichuan and later sought refuge in Nepal and Sikkim, is marked by a series of opportunistic betrayals that significantly altered the region's political landscape in the 19th century. By aligning themselves with the British, the Limbus played a pivotal role in reducing the borders of both Nepal and Sikkim. Limbus’ actions, aimed at pleasing their British masters, led to their elevation to first-class citizen status in newly conquered British territories, while other local ethnic groups were relegated to second-class citizenship.
The Origins of the Limbus
The Limbus were not originally indigenous to Nepal or Sikkim. They were refugees from Sichuan who fled the Mongol expansion into northern Tibet during the 13th century. In their quest for safety, they migrated from Tibet to the eastern regions of Nepal and Sikkim. Seeking refuge, they settled under the protection of the Sen Thakuris and the Lepcha tribe, integrating themselves into the local communities.
The Anglo-Nepalese War: The First Act of Betrayal
The Anglo-Nepalese War (1814-1816) marked the first significant instance of the Limbus’ betrayal. Despite being subjects of the Gorkha rulers in Nepal, the Limbus chose to support the British invasion of eastern Nepal. Leveraging their intimate knowledge of the local terrain and conditions, the Limbus provided intelligence and support to the British forces. Their decision to aid the British was motivated by the hope of gaining favor and rewards.
Although the British were not immediately successful in their campaign, the Limbus’ initial act of betrayal laid the groundwork for future alliances. This action demonstrated their willingness to collaborate with foreign powers against their own rulers, a move that would have lasting repercussions.
The Darjeeling Accord: Shifting Allegiances
The Limbus’ betrayal became more evident during the events surrounding the Darjeeling region in the mid-19th century. In 1835, the British sought to secure the Darjeeling region from the Kingdom of Sikkim. The Limbus, with their deep understanding of the region's political and geographical intricacies, played a crucial role in facilitating this transfer of power. Their cooperation with the British ensured that Darjeeling came under British control, significantly weakening Sikkim's territorial integrity.
This betrayal was driven by the Limbus’ desire for autonomy and recognition from the British. By aiding the British in securing Darjeeling, they hoped to receive land and privileges, solidifying their status under British rule. This opportunistic behavior further strained their relationships with neighboring ethnic groups and rulers, particularly the Gorkhas of Nepal.
The Protectorate of Sikkim: The Ultimate Betrayal
The culmination of the Limbus’ betrayal occurred in 1861 when they assisted the British in making Sikkim a protectorate. The Kingdom of Sikkim, weakened by internal strife and external threats, was vulnerable to British manipulation. The Limbus seized this opportunity to align themselves with the British, facilitating negotiations and ensuring that British strategic interests were met.
This alliance with the British was seen as a profound betrayal by both Nepal and Sikkim. By aiding the British in establishing control over Sikkim, the Limbus directly contributed to the reduction of the region's autonomy and territorial sovereignty. The once-independent kingdom of Sikkim was now under the effective control of the British, thanks in large part to the Limbus’ actions.
Rewards and Consequences
In recognition of their critical role in British successes in Darjeeling and Sikkim, the Limbus were granted land and a degree of autonomy within British-controlled territories. However, the most significant reward was their elevation to first-class citizen status in the newly conquered British lands. This privileged status allowed them greater opportunities and benefits under British rule.
In contrast, other ethnic groups such as the Lepchas, Bhutias, Khas Aryas, and Newars were relegated to second-class citizenship. These groups were seen as less loyal to the British due to their historical resistance and lack of collaboration. As second-class citizens, they faced numerous disadvantages and discriminatory policies that limited their opportunities and rights.
The Gorkhas, the historical rulers of the Limbus, viewed these actions as deep betrayals that undermined their sovereignty and territorial integrity. The Limbus’ alignment with the British had far-reaching consequences for the region. By aiding the British in their territorial ambitions, the Limbus not only secured their own privileges but also played a key role in shortening the borders of both Nepal and Sikkim. Their actions facilitated the expansion of British influence in the region, leading to the diminishment of local autonomy and control.
Recruitment into the British Army
The final chapter in the Limbus’ betrayal was their recruitment into the British Indian Army. Starting in 1914, the British began recruiting the Limbus as Gurkha mercenaries, recognizing their martial skills and the value of their strategic contributions in previous decades. This recruitment was a testament to the trust and value the British placed in the Limbus, who had proven themselves reliable allies in undermining Nepalese and Sikkimese sovereignty.
By serving in the British Army, the Limbus further solidified their alliance with the colonial powers. This relationship provided them with new opportunities and recognition but also cemented their role as betrayers in the eyes of their former rulers and neighbors.
@@user-tg5ut6ic8l Your claims are not only misleading but also a blatant attempt to rewrite history with no basis in fact. It's laughable to say that the Limbus and Rais have no archaeological evidence of their presence and influence in Eastern Nepal when the Kirata dynasty, which includes the Limbus and Rais, ruled long before the arrival of any Brahmins.
Solid Proof of Indigenous Status:
Archaeological Evidence: Numerous archaeological sites and artifacts across Eastern Nepal and Sikkim clearly indicate the presence of the Kiratas, including the Limbus and Rais, long before the 19th century. These include ancient inscriptions, fortifications, and relics found in regions like the Kathmandu Valley and eastern hills, which are dated back to the Kirati period.
Historical Records: Licchavi inscriptions and Newari chronicles from centuries ago document the rule and influence of the Kirata tribes, which were well-established long before the arrival of Brahmins in the region. These records confirm the historical prominence of the Limbus and Rais.
Cultural Heritage: The rich cultural heritage of the Limbus and Rais, including the Sirijonga script and Mundhum oral scriptures, clearly show a long-standing civilization. These traditions predate British involvement and show deep roots in the region.
Brahmins as Refugees:
Historical Migration: It's well-documented that Brahmins migrated to the hills of Nepal from Bihar after the Mughal invasions. This makes them the actual refugees, who later allied themselves with the Khas people of Western Nepal.
Integration Strategy: These Brahmin refugees cleverly integrated themselves with the Khas community to secure their position and influence in the region, unlike the Limbus and Rais, who were already indigenous and established.
Addressing False Information:
Your spamming of false information everywhere is not only misleading but also illegal. Spreading such misinformation can lead to legal consequences. It's essential to stop falsifying history and respect the verified facts. The indigenous status of the Limbus and Rais is backed by solid archaeological, historical, and cultural evidence, unlike the baseless claims you're promoting.
It's time to confront the truth: The Limbus and Rais are the indigenous people of Eastern Nepal and Sikkim, with a rich history that predates any Brahmin influence. Your attempts to distort this reality only serve to highlight your lack of understanding and respect for the true history of the region.
I just want to say one thing for British government,if your country soldiers can win war and save your country, don’t recruit our country soldier because you can’t give equal respect and payment and facilities scale thats your narrow mineded thougt and you lost your brain, I belong from 1/11 GR, beavest of the brave,The first “BATALIK “ from commanding officer lalit rai (VRC) kargil war hiroes, dont think on your mind British government, gorkhali is fit anywhere, indain government equally behave us in our regiment because they respect us and our bravery histry.🙏🙏🙏
British afulai faida na hune kaam kahilai gardaina. British nepali le pani kati innocent manche ko jyan liyeko cha british ko lailai ma lagera. British ko dusman hamro nepal ko dusman hoina ni. Tyo bujhnu parcha. Paap lageko ho. Paisa ko lagi nirdosh ko jyan lina tayar vaye pachi yestai ho. Paapi ko sath dine papi nai huncha.
Ab gorkhaliko Nam rkera aruko lagi ladnu galat chah
Firstma yo aruko deshko lagi kina gorkhali ladne Nepal bahaek aruko lagi ladnu Gorkhali hoina okey
Thats why India is far more better than UK...jai hind
The Fabricated Kirat Myth: Lack of Archaeological Evidence for Limbu-Kirat Connection
Recent archaeological discoveries in Nepal have shed new light on the ancient history of the region, providing tangible evidence of the presence and influence of various ethnic groups. However, these findings directly contradict the mythical narrative of a unified "Kirat" kingdom or lineage that has been promoted by certain Limbu and Rai groups.
Excavations of Licchavi period temples dedicated to Hindu deities like Shiva and Ram, as well as remnants of Khas Malla and Katyuri era architecture, clearly demonstrate the historical significance of Indo-Aryan cultures in Nepal. Numerous inscriptions in archaic forms of the Nepali language have been uncovered at these sites, attesting to the widespread use of Indo-Aryan languages long before the Limbus and Rais arrived in the region.
In contrast, there is a complete lack of archaeological or epigraphic evidence linking the Limbus and Rais to any ancient "Kirat" civilization or kingdom. No Limbu or Rai inscriptions, temples, or other structures dating back more than a few centuries have been discovered. This stands in stark contrast to the abundant material proof of the Khas, Newar, and other Nepali ethnic groups' deep roots in the region.
The Limbu and Rai claims of being the indigenous "Kirat" people are further undermined by historical records and linguistic analysis. Scholars have traced the migration of Limbu and Rai communities from Tibet and China to eastern Nepal and Sikkim only in the 13th-16th centuries CE, centuries after the Khas, Newar, and other groups had already established themselves in the region.
In short, while the Khas, Newar, and other Nepali ethnicities have a well-documented history stretching back over a millennium, the Limbus and Rais are relative newcomers to the area. Their mythical "Kirat" narrative, promoted with the patronage of the British colonial authorities in Darjeeling, is not supported by any concrete archaeological, epigraphic, or historical evidence. It appears to be a fabrication designed to elevate the status of these groups at the expense of Nepal's true indigenous peoples.
As more archaeological discoveries are made and historical research continues, the true diversity and complexity of Nepal's past is being uncovered. The Limbu and Rai "Kirat" myth is being systematically dismantled by the weight of empirical evidence. It is time to acknowledge the rich, multilayered history of Nepal's ethnic groups, rather than promoting the revisionist agenda of certain opportunistic communities.
@@RavishPatel-q2t Enough with your ridiculous claims and fabricated nonsense. Let's break down why your so-called "facts" are just baseless drivel.
First off, the Kirat identity isn't some recent invention. Historical texts like the Mahabharata and the Vishnu Purana mention the Kiratas, an ancient people inhabiting the Himalayan region. The Rai and Limbu communities have been integral parts of the Kirat lineage, and their cultural heritage predates your revisionist nonsense by centuries.
Lack of Archaeological Evidence:
Your claim about a "lack of archaeological evidence" is laughable. Just because there aren't grand palaces or temples doesn't mean a civilization didn't exist. The Kirat people, including the Rais and Limbus, traditionally lived in simpler structures suited to their environment. Their history is preserved through oral traditions, cultural practices, and ancient texts.
While it's true that Indo-Aryan inscriptions and architecture are more prominent, it doesn't negate the presence of other groups. Different civilizations have different ways of leaving their marks, and the absence of one type of evidence isn't proof of non-existence.
Historical Records and Linguistic Analysis:
Migration patterns are complex and don't fit into your neat, biased narrative. The Rai and Limbu people have long been established in Eastern Nepal, with cultural and linguistic ties to the region going back centuries. The suggestion that they only arrived in the 13th-16th centuries is an oversimplification that ignores the nuanced history of human movement and settlement.
British Patronage:
The idea that the British somehow invented the Kirat identity is absurd. The British recognized and documented existing social structures for their administrative convenience. They didn't create them. The Kirat identity existed long before British colonial influence and continues to be a significant part of Nepal's ethnic tapestry.
Genetic Evidence:
Genetic studies show that the Rai and Limbu people have distinct markers that tie them to the region. Their ancestry includes elements from both the Mongoloid and Indo-Aryan gene pools, reflecting the complex and intertwined history of South Asia.
In conclusion, your argument is nothing more than a poorly constructed attempt to discredit the rich and diverse history of the Rai and Limbu people. Your reliance on cherry-picked evidence and misleading claims doesn't hold up to scrutiny. The Kirat identity, with its deep historical roots and cultural significance, stands strong against your baseless accusations. So, spare us your pseudo-historical garbage and stop spreading misinformation.
@@RavishPatel-q2t Enough with your ridiculous claims and fabricated nonsense. Let's break down why your so-called "facts" are just baseless drivel.
First off, the Kirat identity isn't some recent invention. Historical texts like the Mahabharata and the Vishnu Purana mention the Kiratas, an ancient people inhabiting the Himalayan region. The Rai and Limbu communities have been integral parts of the Kirat lineage, and their cultural heritage predates your revisionist nonsense by centuries.
Lack of Archaeological Evidence:
Your claim about a "lack of archaeological evidence" is laughable. Just because there aren't grand palaces or temples doesn't mean a civilization didn't exist. The Kirat people, including the Rais and Limbus, traditionally lived in simpler structures suited to their environment. Their history is preserved through oral traditions, cultural practices, and ancient texts.
While it's true that Indo-Aryan inscriptions and architecture are more prominent, it doesn't negate the presence of other groups. Different civilizations have different ways of leaving their marks, and the absence of one type of evidence isn't proof of non-existence.
Historical Records and Linguistic Analysis:
Migration patterns are complex and don't fit into your neat, biased narrative. The Rai and Limbu people have long been established in Eastern Nepal, with cultural and linguistic ties to the region going back centuries. The suggestion that they only arrived in the 13th-16th centuries is an oversimplification that ignores the nuanced history of human movement and settlement.
British Patronage:
The idea that the British somehow invented the Kirat identity is absurd. The British recognized and documented existing social structures for their administrative convenience. They didn't create them. The Kirat identity existed long before British colonial influence and continues to be a significant part of Nepal's ethnic tapestry.
Genetic Evidence:
Genetic studies show that the Rai and Limbu people have distinct markers that tie them to the region. Their ancestry includes elements from both the Mongoloid and Indo-Aryan gene pools, reflecting the complex and intertwined history of South Asia.
In conclusion, your argument is nothing more than a poorly constructed attempt to discredit the rich and diverse history of the Rai and Limbu people. Your reliance on cherry-picked evidence and misleading claims doesn't hold up to scrutiny. The Kirat identity, with its deep historical roots and cultural significance, stands strong against your baseless accusations. So, spare us your pseudo-historical garbage and stop spreading misinformation.
@@RavishPatel-q2t Your claims are not only misleading but also a blatant attempt to rewrite history with no basis in fact. It's laughable to say that the Limbus and Rais have no archaeological evidence of their presence and influence in Eastern Nepal when the Kirata dynasty, which includes the Limbus and Rais, ruled long before the arrival of any Brahmins.
Solid Proof of Indigenous Status:
Archaeological Evidence: Numerous archaeological sites and artifacts across Eastern Nepal and Sikkim clearly indicate the presence of the Kiratas, including the Limbus and Rais, long before the 19th century. These include ancient inscriptions, fortifications, and relics found in regions like the Kathmandu Valley and eastern hills, which are dated back to the Kirati period.
Historical Records: Licchavi inscriptions and Newari chronicles from centuries ago document the rule and influence of the Kirata tribes, which were well-established long before the arrival of Brahmins in the region. These records confirm the historical prominence of the Limbus and Rais.
Cultural Heritage: The rich cultural heritage of the Limbus and Rais, including the Sirijonga script and Mundhum oral scriptures, clearly show a long-standing civilization. These traditions predate British involvement and show deep roots in the region.
Brahmins as Refugees:
Historical Migration: It's well-documented that Brahmins migrated to the hills of Nepal from Bihar after the Mughal invasions. This makes them the actual refugees, who later allied themselves with the Khas people of Western Nepal.
Integration Strategy: These Brahmin refugees cleverly integrated themselves with the Khas community to secure their position and influence in the region, unlike the Limbus and Rais, who were already indigenous and established.
Addressing False Information:
Your spamming of false information everywhere is not only misleading but also illegal. Spreading such misinformation can lead to legal consequences. It's essential to stop falsifying history and respect the verified facts. The indigenous status of the Limbus and Rais is backed by solid archaeological, historical, and cultural evidence, unlike the baseless claims you're promoting.
It's time to confront the truth: The Limbus and Rais are the indigenous people of Eastern Nepal and Sikkim, with a rich history that predates any Brahmin influence. Your attempts to distort this reality only serve to highlight your lack of understanding and respect for the true history of the region.
Sorry for ur lack of knowledge madhisey@@RavishPatel-q2t
British peoples are 100 times wise than the nepalse people .
The history of the Limbus, who originally hailed from Sichuan and later sought refuge in Nepal and Sikkim, is marked by a series of opportunistic betrayals that significantly altered the region's political landscape in the 19th century. By aligning themselves with the British, the Limbus played a pivotal role in reducing the borders of both Nepal and Sikkim. Limbus’ actions, aimed at pleasing their British masters, led to their elevation to first-class citizen status in newly conquered British territories, while other local ethnic groups were relegated to second-class citizenship.
The Origins of the Limbus
The Limbus were not originally indigenous to Nepal or Sikkim. They were refugees from Sichuan who fled the Mongol expansion into northern Tibet during the 13th century. In their quest for safety, they migrated from Tibet to the eastern regions of Nepal and Sikkim. Seeking refuge, they settled under the protection of the Sen Thakuris and the Lepcha tribe, integrating themselves into the local communities.
The Anglo-Nepalese War: The First Act of Betrayal
The Anglo-Nepalese War (1814-1816) marked the first significant instance of the Limbus’ betrayal. Despite being subjects of the Gorkha rulers in Nepal, the Limbus chose to support the British invasion of eastern Nepal. Leveraging their intimate knowledge of the local terrain and conditions, the Limbus provided intelligence and support to the British forces. Their decision to aid the British was motivated by the hope of gaining favor and rewards.
Although the British were not immediately successful in their campaign, the Limbus’ initial act of betrayal laid the groundwork for future alliances. This action demonstrated their willingness to collaborate with foreign powers against their own rulers, a move that would have lasting repercussions.
The Darjeeling Accord: Shifting Allegiances
The Limbus’ betrayal became more evident during the events surrounding the Darjeeling region in the mid-19th century. In 1835, the British sought to secure the Darjeeling region from the Kingdom of Sikkim. The Limbus, with their deep understanding of the region's political and geographical intricacies, played a crucial role in facilitating this transfer of power. Their cooperation with the British ensured that Darjeeling came under British control, significantly weakening Sikkim's territorial integrity.
This betrayal was driven by the Limbus’ desire for autonomy and recognition from the British. By aiding the British in securing Darjeeling, they hoped to receive land and privileges, solidifying their status under British rule. This opportunistic behavior further strained their relationships with neighboring ethnic groups and rulers, particularly the Gorkhas of Nepal.
The Protectorate of Sikkim: The Ultimate Betrayal
The culmination of the Limbus’ betrayal occurred in 1861 when they assisted the British in making Sikkim a protectorate. The Kingdom of Sikkim, weakened by internal strife and external threats, was vulnerable to British manipulation. The Limbus seized this opportunity to align themselves with the British, facilitating negotiations and ensuring that British strategic interests were met.
This alliance with the British was seen as a profound betrayal by both Nepal and Sikkim. By aiding the British in establishing control over Sikkim, the Limbus directly contributed to the reduction of the region's autonomy and territorial sovereignty. The once-independent kingdom of Sikkim was now under the effective control of the British, thanks in large part to the Limbus’ actions.
Rewards and Consequences
In recognition of their critical role in British successes in Darjeeling and Sikkim, the Limbus were granted land and a degree of autonomy within British-controlled territories. However, the most significant reward was their elevation to first-class citizen status in the newly conquered British lands. This privileged status allowed them greater opportunities and benefits under British rule.
In contrast, other ethnic groups such as the Lepchas, Bhutias, Khas Aryas, and Newars were relegated to second-class citizenship. These groups were seen as less loyal to the British due to their historical resistance and lack of collaboration. As second-class citizens, they faced numerous disadvantages and discriminatory policies that limited their opportunities and rights.
The Gorkhas, the historical rulers of the Limbus, viewed these actions as deep betrayals that undermined their sovereignty and territorial integrity. The Limbus’ alignment with the British had far-reaching consequences for the region. By aiding the British in their territorial ambitions, the Limbus not only secured their own privileges but also played a key role in shortening the borders of both Nepal and Sikkim. Their actions facilitated the expansion of British influence in the region, leading to the diminishment of local autonomy and control.
Recruitment into the British Army
The final chapter in the Limbus’ betrayal was their recruitment into the British Indian Army. Starting in 1914, the British began recruiting the Limbus as Gurkha mercenaries, recognizing their martial skills and the value of their strategic contributions in previous decades. This recruitment was a testament to the trust and value the British placed in the Limbus, who had proven themselves reliable allies in undermining Nepalese and Sikkimese sovereignty.
By serving in the British Army, the Limbus further solidified their alliance with the colonial powers. This relationship provided them with new opportunities and recognition but also cemented their role as betrayers in the eyes of their former rulers and neighbors.
@@user-tg5ut6ic8l Your claims are not only misleading but also a blatant attempt to rewrite history with no basis in fact. It's laughable to say that the Limbus and Rais have no archaeological evidence of their presence and influence in Eastern Nepal when the Kirata dynasty, which includes the Limbus and Rais, ruled long before the arrival of any Brahmins.
Solid Proof of Indigenous Status:
Archaeological Evidence: Numerous archaeological sites and artifacts across Eastern Nepal and Sikkim clearly indicate the presence of the Kiratas, including the Limbus and Rais, long before the 19th century. These include ancient inscriptions, fortifications, and relics found in regions like the Kathmandu Valley and eastern hills, which are dated back to the Kirati period.
Historical Records: Licchavi inscriptions and Newari chronicles from centuries ago document the rule and influence of the Kirata tribes, which were well-established long before the arrival of Brahmins in the region. These records confirm the historical prominence of the Limbus and Rais.
Cultural Heritage: The rich cultural heritage of the Limbus and Rais, including the Sirijonga script and Mundhum oral scriptures, clearly show a long-standing civilization. These traditions predate British involvement and show deep roots in the region.
Brahmins as Refugees:
Historical Migration: It's well-documented that Brahmins migrated to the hills of Nepal from Bihar after the Mughal invasions. This makes them the actual refugees, who later allied themselves with the Khas people of Western Nepal.
Integration Strategy: These Brahmin refugees cleverly integrated themselves with the Khas community to secure their position and influence in the region, unlike the Limbus and Rais, who were already indigenous and established.
Addressing False Information:
Your spamming of false information everywhere is not only misleading but also illegal. Spreading such misinformation can lead to legal consequences. It's essential to stop falsifying history and respect the verified facts. The indigenous status of the Limbus and Rais is backed by solid archaeological, historical, and cultural evidence, unlike the baseless claims you're promoting.
It's time to confront the truth: The Limbus and Rais are the indigenous people of Eastern Nepal and Sikkim, with a rich history that predates any Brahmin influence. Your attempts to distort this reality only serve to highlight your lack of understanding and respect for the true history of the region.
Gora ta gora nai ho
The history of the Limbus, who originally hailed from Sichuan and later sought refuge in Nepal and Sikkim, is marked by a series of opportunistic betrayals that significantly altered the region's political landscape in the 19th century. By aligning themselves with the British, the Limbus played a pivotal role in reducing the borders of both Nepal and Sikkim. Limbus’ actions, aimed at pleasing their British masters, led to their elevation to first-class citizen status in newly conquered British territories, while other local ethnic groups were relegated to second-class citizenship.
The Origins of the Limbus
The Limbus were not originally indigenous to Nepal or Sikkim. They were refugees from Sichuan who fled the Mongol expansion into northern Tibet during the 13th century. In their quest for safety, they migrated from Tibet to the eastern regions of Nepal and Sikkim. Seeking refuge, they settled under the protection of the Sen Thakuris and the Lepcha tribe, integrating themselves into the local communities.
The Anglo-Nepalese War: The First Act of Betrayal
The Anglo-Nepalese War (1814-1816) marked the first significant instance of the Limbus’ betrayal. Despite being subjects of the Gorkha rulers in Nepal, the Limbus chose to support the British invasion of eastern Nepal. Leveraging their intimate knowledge of the local terrain and conditions, the Limbus provided intelligence and support to the British forces. Their decision to aid the British was motivated by the hope of gaining favor and rewards.
Although the British were not immediately successful in their campaign, the Limbus’ initial act of betrayal laid the groundwork for future alliances. This action demonstrated their willingness to collaborate with foreign powers against their own rulers, a move that would have lasting repercussions.
The Darjeeling Accord: Shifting Allegiances
The Limbus’ betrayal became more evident during the events surrounding the Darjeeling region in the mid-19th century. In 1835, the British sought to secure the Darjeeling region from the Kingdom of Sikkim. The Limbus, with their deep understanding of the region's political and geographical intricacies, played a crucial role in facilitating this transfer of power. Their cooperation with the British ensured that Darjeeling came under British control, significantly weakening Sikkim's territorial integrity.
This betrayal was driven by the Limbus’ desire for autonomy and recognition from the British. By aiding the British in securing Darjeeling, they hoped to receive land and privileges, solidifying their status under British rule. This opportunistic behavior further strained their relationships with neighboring ethnic groups and rulers, particularly the Gorkhas of Nepal.
The Protectorate of Sikkim: The Ultimate Betrayal
The culmination of the Limbus’ betrayal occurred in 1861 when they assisted the British in making Sikkim a protectorate. The Kingdom of Sikkim, weakened by internal strife and external threats, was vulnerable to British manipulation. The Limbus seized this opportunity to align themselves with the British, facilitating negotiations and ensuring that British strategic interests were met.
This alliance with the British was seen as a profound betrayal by both Nepal and Sikkim. By aiding the British in establishing control over Sikkim, the Limbus directly contributed to the reduction of the region's autonomy and territorial sovereignty. The once-independent kingdom of Sikkim was now under the effective control of the British, thanks in large part to the Limbus’ actions.
Rewards and Consequences
In recognition of their critical role in British successes in Darjeeling and Sikkim, the Limbus were granted land and a degree of autonomy within British-controlled territories. However, the most significant reward was their elevation to first-class citizen status in the newly conquered British lands. This privileged status allowed them greater opportunities and benefits under British rule.
In contrast, other ethnic groups such as the Lepchas, Bhutias, Khas Aryas, and Newars were relegated to second-class citizenship. These groups were seen as less loyal to the British due to their historical resistance and lack of collaboration. As second-class citizens, they faced numerous disadvantages and discriminatory policies that limited their opportunities and rights.
The Gorkhas, the historical rulers of the Limbus, viewed these actions as deep betrayals that undermined their sovereignty and territorial integrity. The Limbus’ alignment with the British had far-reaching consequences for the region. By aiding the British in their territorial ambitions, the Limbus not only secured their own privileges but also played a key role in shortening the borders of both Nepal and Sikkim. Their actions facilitated the expansion of British influence in the region, leading to the diminishment of local autonomy and control.
Recruitment into the British Army
The final chapter in the Limbus’ betrayal was their recruitment into the British Indian Army. Starting in 1914, the British began recruiting the Limbus as Gurkha mercenaries, recognizing their martial skills and the value of their strategic contributions in previous decades. This recruitment was a testament to the trust and value the British placed in the Limbus, who had proven themselves reliable allies in undermining Nepalese and Sikkimese sovereignty.
By serving in the British Army, the Limbus further solidified their alliance with the colonial powers. This relationship provided them with new opportunities and recognition but also cemented their role as betrayers in the eyes of their former rulers and neighbors.
@@user-tg5ut6ic8l Your claims are not only misleading but also a blatant attempt to rewrite history with no basis in fact. It's laughable to say that the Limbus and Rais have no archaeological evidence of their presence and influence in Eastern Nepal when the Kirata dynasty, which includes the Limbus and Rais, ruled long before the arrival of any Brahmins.
Solid Proof of Indigenous Status:
Archaeological Evidence: Numerous archaeological sites and artifacts across Eastern Nepal and Sikkim clearly indicate the presence of the Kiratas, including the Limbus and Rais, long before the 19th century. These include ancient inscriptions, fortifications, and relics found in regions like the Kathmandu Valley and eastern hills, which are dated back to the Kirati period.
Historical Records: Licchavi inscriptions and Newari chronicles from centuries ago document the rule and influence of the Kirata tribes, which were well-established long before the arrival of Brahmins in the region. These records confirm the historical prominence of the Limbus and Rais.
Cultural Heritage: The rich cultural heritage of the Limbus and Rais, including the Sirijonga script and Mundhum oral scriptures, clearly show a long-standing civilization. These traditions predate British involvement and show deep roots in the region.
Brahmins as Refugees:
Historical Migration: It's well-documented that Brahmins migrated to the hills of Nepal from Bihar after the Mughal invasions. This makes them the actual refugees, who later allied themselves with the Khas people of Western Nepal.
Integration Strategy: These Brahmin refugees cleverly integrated themselves with the Khas community to secure their position and influence in the region, unlike the Limbus and Rais, who were already indigenous and established.
Addressing False Information:
Your spamming of false information everywhere is not only misleading but also illegal. Spreading such misinformation can lead to legal consequences. It's essential to stop falsifying history and respect the verified facts. The indigenous status of the Limbus and Rais is backed by solid archaeological, historical, and cultural evidence, unlike the baseless claims you're promoting.
It's time to confront the truth: The Limbus and Rais are the indigenous people of Eastern Nepal and Sikkim, with a rich history that predates any Brahmin influence. Your attempts to distort this reality only serve to highlight your lack of understanding and respect for the true history of the region.
यो बृटिसको षडयन्त्र होईन,,,500 बर्ष अगाडी नेपाल छिरेका हिन्दुस्तानी सर्णार्थी को षडयन्त्र थियो,,यो कुरा किन भाबी सनातन लाई बुझाउन सक्दैन.........
Nonsense it’s not true. I am a retired British Gorka Soldier they treat us best
Rai ta paryo 🤣👍
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Now you get benefits but not before sir
British people is racist
I know about this people
Very well because I have experience working with this people in hospitality industry
@@yuvarajsapkota4199 I was RGR retired soldier I am fully satisfaction with my full Pension, Jai Nepal 🇳🇵 Jai Royal British
They buy you as a missionary solder. what do you expect? slaves got no dignity.
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The Fabricated Kirat Myth: Lack of Archaeological Evidence for Limbu-Kirat Connection
Recent archaeological discoveries in Nepal have shed new light on the ancient history of the region, providing tangible evidence of the presence and influence of various ethnic groups. However, these findings directly contradict the mythical narrative of a unified "Kirat" kingdom or lineage that has been promoted by certain Limbu and Rai groups.
Excavations of Licchavi period temples dedicated to Hindu deities like Shiva and Ram, as well as remnants of Khas Malla and Katyuri era architecture, clearly demonstrate the historical significance of Indo-Aryan cultures in Nepal. Numerous inscriptions in archaic forms of the Nepali language have been uncovered at these sites, attesting to the widespread use of Indo-Aryan languages long before the Limbus and Rais arrived in the region.
In contrast, there is a complete lack of archaeological or epigraphic evidence linking the Limbus and Rais to any ancient "Kirat" civilization or kingdom. No Limbu or Rai inscriptions, temples, or other structures dating back more than a few centuries have been discovered. This stands in stark contrast to the abundant material proof of the Khas, Newar, and other Nepali ethnic groups' deep roots in the region.
The Limbu and Rai claims of being the indigenous "Kirat" people are further undermined by historical records and linguistic analysis. Scholars have traced the migration of Limbu and Rai communities from Tibet and China to eastern Nepal and Sikkim only in the 13th-16th centuries CE, centuries after the Khas, Newar, and other groups had already established themselves in the region.
In short, while the Khas, Newar, and other Nepali ethnicities have a well-documented history stretching back over a millennium, the Limbus and Rais are relative newcomers to the area. Their mythical "Kirat" narrative, promoted with the patronage of the British colonial authorities in Darjeeling, is not supported by any concrete archaeological, epigraphic, or historical evidence. It appears to be a fabrication designed to elevate the status of these groups at the expense of Nepal's true indigenous peoples.
As more archaeological discoveries are made and historical research continues, the true diversity and complexity of Nepal's past is being uncovered. The Limbu and Rai "Kirat" myth is being systematically dismantled by the weight of empirical evidence. It is time to acknowledge the rich, multilayered history of Nepal's ethnic groups, rather than promoting the revisionist agenda of certain opportunistic communities.
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