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That 1984 crocodile monster incident was really cool to learn about, I'm kinda hoping you're right about Totodile now just to see what they can do with that concept
@NinJaguar right? I now have a vested interest in Totodile being the water pick cuz of it besides just loving the mon. I really enjoyed reading about it! I'd honestly find it so cool if it's referenced throughout the game too like if we get to enter sewers at some point especially
I still believe Empoleon and Serperior are the choices for the main two, with Empoleon's inspiration going more into the General aspect of Napoleon, not overlapping too much with Serperior, but the Fire starter is the hardest one to figure out
I think Turtwig has a shot, for one simple reason: The Paris Catacombs. Hear me out. Torterra's whole schtick is that it's based on the myth of the world turtle, so what if a variant of Torterra was based on the Paris Catacombs? The Paris Catacombs span an insane amount of Paris's underground, with Paris built on top of it and expanded over time. A Grass/Ghost or Grass/Rock type Torterra that uses old catacombs/tombs as its shell would not only fit Kalos, but also fit into the "monster" category of starter possibilities.
Serperior, Cinderace, and Feraligatr would be a really good starter trio. Especially since all 3 of them are monotype, and if they get Megas then they could each gain a new type through those. Serperior could become part Dragon, Cinderace could become part Electric, and Feraligatr could become part Dark. (I’d love to have Feraligatr be part Dragon, but Dark also makes sense for it, and I don’t think there’s any other type that makes sense for Serperior)
Something else to keep in mind is that in Pokemon Z-A, we'll likely have access to all of the mega evolutions at one point or another. Meaning starters with mega evolutions feel kinda unlikely to be the starters. Although a Mega Kalonian Version of Blazekin VS a Mega Blazekin does sound kinda cool. With that said, it makes me think Serperior, Feraligator, and Incenaroar
I don't wanna discount any starter save for the ones from gen 6 and legends arceus, but I agree it heavily impacts their likelihood. Them and the gen 4 starters both imo should be disqualified from being chosen but who knows what gf might do 😆 After all gen 9 starters were only in the 1 game and gen 4 starters are more popular than ever now cuz of gen 8 so they might just capitalize on those things for all we know
I’d love for popplio to be one of the starters but piplup is a more on the nose reference so they’ll prob go with it😅 specially since it’s super popular
@@johtojonny The fact that Piplup was featured in 2 sinnoh games in the last few years with nothing but a new ability and little tweaks to it moves set. Yeah I think Piplup/Empoleon deserves more respect!! A new mega or new form is what I ask for 😭😭😭 heavily focused on? They replaced Piplup as a starter in legends in favor of Oshawott 💀💀 I'm pissed!!
When Legends Arceus had yet to show its starters, TCG ended up leaking them ahead of time, intentionally or not. TCG has done the same thing recently with three specific starters. You're so close with some of your final predictions. I won't spoil it in this post in case you want to look for yourself.
I would love to see Fennekin (Fire/Dark), Popplio (Water/Ghost), and Chikorita (Grass/Fairy). Fennekin's inclusion would break from the Arceus pattern of 2/5/7, but considering the gen 5 reflected the region of Sinnoh, I think using one Kalos (6) pokemon instead would fit Z-A better. Fennekin already fits the region, but I'd love it if the concept was tweaked for the later evols to use the voirloup as a concept. "The voirloup is a man or a woman with a ‘dark soul’ who has committed the seven cardinal sins. They are possessed by Satan and, at midnight, transform themselves into animals, often wolves but also foxes... They then spend the night roaming the forest, eating dogs or flock, lighting fires and generally frightening locals". Popplio could reference the Phantom of the Opera, The Unknown of the Seine, and Melusine. Chikorita would be able to reference perfumes with it's signature dex entry reflecting the sweet aroma it gives off. It could also reference Marie Antoinette and the royal/rococo type of style with it's neck and head flourishes. I think the use of a fairy secondary typing would be reflect the theme well! Also interesting to note that Arceus' starter final evols were very similar to the design of the trainers of their added secondary type in their respective generation. Meaning that Fennekin could incorporate some design aspects of Emma and Popplio with Acerola. Chikorita as a Fairy type would be free from this though as there were no fairy types in gen 2.
11:04 You imply that Charmander can't have any strong connection to France but: both its English and French names (Salameche) reference the Salamander. While we know it as an amphibian, in the Middle Ages there is also a mythological fiery creature called the Salamander which does... look like a salamander, since some species were thought to have some sort of connection with fire and resist it. In fact this is why the Charmander line exists and is a fire type, as it is based on the mythological creature. Francis the First ("François Premier" (written "1er")) is a well known French king that ruled during the Renaissance, specifically in the 16th century. He had a pretty big impact on France, establishing an alliance with the Turks, participating in wars in Italy, was very fond of Leonardo da Vinci and known for building and refurbishing some of the country's most beautiful castles such as the Chateau de Chambord or Chateau d'Amboise (this was where Leonardo da Vinci actually lived during his time in France under Francis 1st's recognition, at the Clos Lucé). One of Francis the first's most recognizable symbol was... the Salamander! It was another nobility symbol not exclusive to him however many heraldric symbols with a crowned salamander directly refer to the king. In Chambord's Castle, you can find the Salamander etched in the chimneys. These castles are located in what is called the Loire Valley, following the Loire River, and many of them are only about 1 or 2 hour drives from Paris. Paris was the capital of the kingdom but the kings loved to spend time in the properties they had in either Orléans or the Loire Valley, but Paris still retained its royal importance since this is where the King still has its main governing functions until Louis XIV rebuilt Versailles and moved there (before the kings used to exert their power from the Louvre Castle, now the museum, and even before then it used to be from "La Conciergerie", once a palace). So Charmander definitely has some very French connections. The only reason it's definitely not gonna be a PLZA is what you said: they already were available as secondary starters in X and Y. Having a mega already prevents it from being a PLZA starter, alongside the other Gen 1 and Gen 3 starters, if Gamefreak wants to give the PLZA starters new megas. Though gamefreak also loves breaking their own rules (or rather rules made up by fans lol).
starters with typings base form and mega form: Serperior- Grass/Fairy/Steel Empoleon- Water/Flying/Ghost Blaziken- Fire/Psychic/Dark It would take a lot to explain how I got to those picks, but I feel like I'm close.
A mon with a mega getting a regional form would be redundant since gamefreak will defitely include them in their regular forms somehow in order to make the mega available.
For my own personal guess I’m gonna say that we’re going to get a Johto starter, a Unova one, and a Galar one. So Totodile, Snivy, and Scorbunny. Scorbunny is popular so it would make sense. Snivy would work because Serperior fits with Kalos on an aesthetic and themeatic level. And Totodile is cute… I want it because it’s cute lol. A Sinnoh one seems very unlikely to me given that they got focus in BDSP, and were wild Pokémon in PLA. Additionally, since the Kanto and Hoenn starters all have mega evolutions I’m gonna assume they’re all going to be obtainable in Z-A, just not as starters. Probably in the post-game? But we’ll have to see.
I have a region based on northwest Usa, and my legends game Ideas water starter is piplup, Based on Napoleon Dynamite which taked place and was filmed in Idaho, so I’m REALLY hoping the water starter isn’t Piplup, also I love the idea for totedile
Another note for Surperior being the grass starter is that in an interview, Ken Sugimori, the designer for the snivy line also based her off of Lady Oscar from The Rose of Versailes(prob spelt that wrong), Who was a france guard in her manga, so she has a another point of contention for being the starter, granted just because she was based on a French character dosent mean its confirmed but since the creator said she was based on it, and her being royalty i personally believe its almost guaranteed to be her
Ohhh that's awesome! Yes that ups her chances to be the same as Empoleon, but I'm convinced only one "royalty" figure can get in so I'm hoping it's her!
Honestly dude while I think that they're not gonna pick totodile as a starter I do really hope we get a quest that is related to the sewer monster, imagine how cool that would be.
The only thing I can confidently say at this point in time since we have nothing is that I can rule out gens 1, 3,, 9, and pla starters because they either have a mega already or are the current starters. As HPP pointed out, we don't know if the starters are getting Megas or regional variants. If it is Megas, it would be redundant to give them to one's that have one already. My picks as of rn are serperior, empoleon or primarina (I'll explain this split), cinderace. I don't think I need to explain serperior at all. For empoleon, they could have it represent a prominent historical French general or admiral but I hesitate as I'm not sure they would pick this for a 3rd game in a row. I pick primarina otherwise as it represents opera and operas and play were prominent entertainment methods in France. As for cinderace, it's the generic pick as idk what direction they're going with but it could be a fencer.
Friday August 30th, 2024 I think Piplup(For Empoleon) needs to be a starter for Legends Z-A because no Pokémon from Sinnoh got a regional form outside of the region. In Legends Arceus(older Sinnoh), we got Hisuian Sneasel but not Hisuian Weavile. Only Pokémon from Kanto(33), Johto(6), Hoenn(2), Unova(9), Kalos(3) and Alola(1) got regional forms outside of their home region.
Call me crazy, but I think we're going to see starters from Gens 2, 5, & 7 again. Apart from Incineroar (and Serperior to a smaller degree), the Pokemon from these generations have been in significant need for competitive buffs. Additionally these three generations are less popular and this gives a chance to reinvigorate interest in these starter sets. I'm naturally inclined to eliminate Gen 1 & 3 starters as they were fortunate to receive Mega Evolutions previously as well as Gen 8 & 9 starters because of recency bias, plus naturally Gen 6 is eliminated as the game takes place in Kalos. One theory that I propose that would be really cool is that the Legends games will ultimately become a trilogy. The final set of unused starters from Gens 2/5/7 will be saved for the 3rd game in this trilogy.
Starters are gonna be turtwig, totodile and litten. Look at the Temporal Forces fun pack, it's what they dod with Legends Arceis just before the starters were revealed as well.
If it is the trio of Serperior/Primarina/Cinderace, I think this would be a combo: Serperior: Grass/Fairy or Grass/Dragon (royalty with the fleur de lei) Primarina: Water/Psychic (Opera composure) Cinderace: Fire/Electric (football players have to stay energized on the field) Just a theory of discussion, and open to hear what others have to say.
Getting caught up on watching videos today! Love this analysis! 😊 I’m thinking that we get our starters, we can catch Kalos starters, and we’re also gifted a starter from another gen like we did in XY. My guess is our chosen starters don’t mega but have new Kalosian forms. Then we get gifted gen 2 starters that get megas. Gen 2 because they need some love badly, and because other than that it’d be Gen 5, but Snivy’s gotta get a Kalosian form or we riot sooo Gen 2 it is. 😆
Serperior, yeah that one with its royal line I can see. But I don’t know what second type its form would have. Grass steel maybe to give it a royal gold line But Emboar feels more likely as pigs are native to France. Typing there is hard as well, fire ground maybe as warthog ruin many fields Some starters from Arceus did not inmeely make sense either to me so Feraligatr can be picked in my opinion, water fifth hg maybe to get with a wrestling theme But two from Unovq cannot be selected so maybe they take Scoorbunny instead Serperior Golf theme Feraligatr Wresrling theme Scorbunny Soccer theme Probly won’t make sense though
I hope it’s just the Gen 6 trio of starters and they receive mega’s and then you can catch every other starter in the wild and all the starters get mega’s. Then, we can get a XY remake with new mega’s for the competitive players so they can either play with mega’s (xy) or no mega’s (sv) this will also keep competitive from becoming dry because they can’t wait till 2026 for gen 10 competitive. Keep in mind this is just a dream for me.
Serperior, Primarina, and Cinderace would be really cool! Although, I'm a big Incineroar fan, so replacing Cinderace with Incineroar would be my jam. I'm also a big Feraligatr fan, and I love that some rom hacks edit its typing to be Water/Dark, and I got fascinated by the legend in Paris that linked it to a Feraligatr. Not sure if a Water/Dark repeat would be alright to some tho. I also just wanna appreciate that I like the editing in this video like a lot! And the footage choices you made to keep my eyes on what starter you're bringing up in every moment.
I feel like the Megas will be in regardless & won’t be the new starters. So, with what’s left, My choices would be Grookey, Totodile, and Litten. But, if that happened, it would be hard for me to choose.
Oh geez there’s a lot of good choices for starters for Legends ZA! On my right hand I want to say I’m going with that the TCG leak where it’s going to be Litten, Turtwig and Totodile but on my left hand I want to say Chikorita with Popplio and Tepig! Kalos Meganium could be part fairy type as in it either becomes all about French roses or French perfume. Kalos Primarina could be part dragon type to be based on the myth Melusine which is actually the inspiration for the Starbucks logo. And Kalos Emboar could be a chef because French food I heard is supposed to be good. Oh and maybe part steel type because it uses cooking utensils! Until then, let’s just see what happens with the starters! ❤️
Oh man turtwig would be so weird! But at least I'd get totodile 😶 (don't really like incin unless his new form is cooler) Chiko, popplio, and tepig would be cute! I love all 3 so that would be my preferred outcome of these 2 Ohhh yes DRAGON type for Primarina! Now THAT would be dope! I mentioned Melusine and the reptilian form in the vid but didn't even think about how that would change her typing! Ohhhh nice connection for Chikorita! That makes me happy since you're right that COULD put her in play
I think I would give more credit to Meganium being the grass starter because It fit the fairy typing with it flower and look like Florges, also it need buff otherwise because it's been since the beggining GF didn't touch it although being very few interesting. Nevertheless I don't think Meganium would be as likely as Serperior.
I like Totodile being the water starter, Empoleon is the most obvious choice since it's the most clear inspiration from France. However I prefer the more obscure crocodile tale, it's perfect in my eyes especially when Empoleons design is alright France based so I feel like Furaligator could be more of a mystery. I do not like Cinderace for the fire starter at all, yes football is the popular sport in France but that's not unique since football is by far one of the most popular sports globally. Incineroar is far more connected to France as a cat and isn't as recent either whilst Cinderace was the generation just prior to gen 9.
Wait, think with me for a sec... What if, just like X and Y, there are 2 sets of starters??? The special for this game ones (that are probably gonna have regional forms) and a second set of starters that is the Kalos starters that could have mega evolutions in this game. Its just like in X and Y, we had new pokemon for the real starters and the second set got mega evolutions. Doesn't it make sense??
I would add something that makes primarina alot more likely is that france is very famous for operas and primarina is partly based on an opera singer. Is this manly because I want a Phantom of the Opera (which is from france) pokemon... yes...
Totodile and turtwig are my 2 favourite by far. I would like those two and litten to make it as long as they get new evolutions. There is a new card pack coming with those 3 on the front. Too good to be true for sure
Honestly I don't really have a preference lol.i already got my favorite starter as one of them in legends so I'm good. Maybe Snivy since it can use some love. Personally despise the Piplup line thanks to the anime so would rather not see him 😂😂...
Jonny, what do you think of XY’s story/ main quest? I’m playing through it again and while Lysander and team flare are dog shit I think the actual adventure is pretty underrated, probably would be better than SwSh if the rivals like Shauna were good for anything.
I'll be honest. X and Y, to me, failed so much on all fronts that I don't remember almost anything from it save for: - the first cutscene you meet the box legendary - the fall area where you catch pumpkaboo - the e4 champion (I think?! Idk, the girl with wings) - lumiose was annoying to navigate and it was exacerbated by that awful, repetitive theme and the amount of the game that took place solely there So to answer your question I musta throught the story and adventure was nothing short of forgettable
@@johtojonny I’ll be honest lumiose is a pain and the story/ postgame are weak. But the main adventure is a lot more fun than I remembered it being back in 2013. I’m 4 badges in and having fun. Megas aren’t well implemented but you can basically ignore them. For me it’s a good way to cope with the boredom of waiting for ZA news. I’m walking through lumiose and seeing actual locations from the ZA trailer like the aqueduct from route 13 might be where the hawlucha guy was catching the dragonair.
@@AJ-ey5eh I'm really glad you're having fun! That's all that's important! 😁 and it def sounds like a good way to pass the time if you're enjoying yourself
As much as I would like to see Serperior represented as a starter. I can't see it. When I'm theorizing which starters they'll pick, I'm disqualifying any starter from a generation that was used on Legends Arceus. I had also heard rumors that mega evolutions would be returning. So I also disqualified any starter that already has a mega evolution. With that said. I'm thinking Piplup would be the water starter and Scorbunny for the fire starter. I just can't seem to decide what I think the grass starter could be. Sprigatito is probably the next best candidate.
if it is a mixed set of starters, they should have regional forms in their final stage. The only positive that ZA would have is new pokemon and new regional forms. But the rest of the game I am not looking forward to.
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That 1984 crocodile monster incident was really cool to learn about, I'm kinda hoping you're right about Totodile now just to see what they can do with that concept
@NinJaguar right? I now have a vested interest in Totodile being the water pick cuz of it besides just loving the mon. I really enjoyed reading about it!
I'd honestly find it so cool if it's referenced throughout the game too like if we get to enter sewers at some point especially
Oh absolutely. I would prefer it over Piplup/empoleon anyday.
I still believe Empoleon and Serperior are the choices for the main two, with Empoleon's inspiration going more into the General aspect of Napoleon, not overlapping too much with Serperior, but the Fire starter is the hardest one to figure out
Blaziken maybe
Just a heads up, Eleonore died in 2021. Which could make it possibly a Water/Ghost type.
I think Turtwig has a shot, for one simple reason: The Paris Catacombs. Hear me out. Torterra's whole schtick is that it's based on the myth of the world turtle, so what if a variant of Torterra was based on the Paris Catacombs? The Paris Catacombs span an insane amount of Paris's underground, with Paris built on top of it and expanded over time. A Grass/Ghost or Grass/Rock type Torterra that uses old catacombs/tombs as its shell would not only fit Kalos, but also fit into the "monster" category of starter possibilities.
I absolutely love this theory.
i‘m convinced they do litten as the fire starter just for the mega incineroar meme for wolfeyvgc
my picks are Seperior, Cinderace, and Primarina. 1 i love them all so much 2 they have the best ties in my opinion
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I think they'll go similar to Legends Arceus Gen 2/5/7 so in that case Feraligatr /Serperior / Incineroar, would make sense to me
Serperior literally has an upside down “fleur de lis” on its chest.
One thing about the Litten line you forgot is that there is a black cat pub in France that is supposedly popular.
Honestly, Serperior, Cinderace and Primarina would be such a good starter trio
Serperior, Cinderace, and Feraligatr would be a really good starter trio. Especially since all 3 of them are monotype, and if they get Megas then they could each gain a new type through those. Serperior could become part Dragon, Cinderace could become part Electric, and Feraligatr could become part Dark.
(I’d love to have Feraligatr be part Dragon, but Dark also makes sense for it, and I don’t think there’s any other type that makes sense for Serperior)
Something else to keep in mind is that in Pokemon Z-A, we'll likely have access to all of the mega evolutions at one point or another. Meaning starters with mega evolutions feel kinda unlikely to be the starters. Although a Mega Kalonian Version of Blazekin VS a Mega Blazekin does sound kinda cool. With that said, it makes me think Serperior, Feraligator, and Incenaroar
Imo the gen 9 started should be counted as impossible.
I don't wanna discount any starter save for the ones from gen 6 and legends arceus, but I agree it heavily impacts their likelihood. Them and the gen 4 starters both imo should be disqualified from being chosen but who knows what gf might do 😆
After all gen 9 starters were only in the 1 game and gen 4 starters are more popular than ever now cuz of gen 8 so they might just capitalize on those things for all we know
I’d love for popplio to be one of the starters but piplup is a more on the nose reference so they’ll prob go with it😅 specially since it’s super popular
Piplup is my favorite! It has to be Piplup 😭😭😩 it's time!! I would be happy with Totodile tho ❤
Wym it's time 😭 girl Piplup was in the last 3 games it's BEEN had its time 😆💀 and 2 of those it was heavily focused on 💀💀💀
@@johtojonny The fact that Piplup was featured in 2 sinnoh games in the last few years with nothing but a new ability and little tweaks to it moves set. Yeah I think Piplup/Empoleon deserves more respect!! A new mega or new form is what I ask for 😭😭😭 heavily focused on? They replaced Piplup as a starter in legends in favor of Oshawott 💀💀 I'm pissed!!
When Legends Arceus had yet to show its starters, TCG ended up leaking them ahead of time, intentionally or not. TCG has done the same thing recently with three specific starters. You're so close with some of your final predictions. I won't spoil it in this post in case you want to look for yourself.
I would love to see Fennekin (Fire/Dark), Popplio (Water/Ghost), and Chikorita (Grass/Fairy). Fennekin's inclusion would break from the Arceus pattern of 2/5/7, but considering the gen 5 reflected the region of Sinnoh, I think using one Kalos (6) pokemon instead would fit Z-A better.
Fennekin already fits the region, but I'd love it if the concept was tweaked for the later evols to use the voirloup as a concept.
"The voirloup is a man or a woman with a ‘dark soul’ who has committed the seven cardinal sins. They are possessed by Satan and, at midnight, transform themselves into animals, often wolves but also foxes... They then spend the night roaming the forest, eating dogs or flock, lighting fires and generally frightening locals".
Popplio could reference the Phantom of the Opera, The Unknown of the Seine, and Melusine.
Chikorita would be able to reference perfumes with it's signature dex entry reflecting the sweet aroma it gives off. It could also reference Marie Antoinette and the royal/rococo type of style with it's neck and head flourishes. I think the use of a fairy secondary typing would be reflect the theme well!
Also interesting to note that Arceus' starter final evols were very similar to the design of the trainers of their added secondary type in their respective generation. Meaning that Fennekin could incorporate some design aspects of Emma and Popplio with Acerola. Chikorita as a Fairy type would be free from this though as there were no fairy types in gen 2.
11:04 You imply that Charmander can't have any strong connection to France but: both its English and French names (Salameche) reference the Salamander. While we know it as an amphibian, in the Middle Ages there is also a mythological fiery creature called the Salamander which does... look like a salamander, since some species were thought to have some sort of connection with fire and resist it. In fact this is why the Charmander line exists and is a fire type, as it is based on the mythological creature.
Francis the First ("François Premier" (written "1er")) is a well known French king that ruled during the Renaissance, specifically in the 16th century. He had a pretty big impact on France, establishing an alliance with the Turks, participating in wars in Italy, was very fond of Leonardo da Vinci and known for building and refurbishing some of the country's most beautiful castles such as the Chateau de Chambord or Chateau d'Amboise (this was where Leonardo da Vinci actually lived during his time in France under Francis 1st's recognition, at the Clos Lucé). One of Francis the first's most recognizable symbol was... the Salamander! It was another nobility symbol not exclusive to him however many heraldric symbols with a crowned salamander directly refer to the king. In Chambord's Castle, you can find the Salamander etched in the chimneys. These castles are located in what is called the Loire Valley, following the Loire River, and many of them are only about 1 or 2 hour drives from Paris. Paris was the capital of the kingdom but the kings loved to spend time in the properties they had in either Orléans or the Loire Valley, but Paris still retained its royal importance since this is where the King still has its main governing functions until Louis XIV rebuilt Versailles and moved there (before the kings used to exert their power from the Louvre Castle, now the museum, and even before then it used to be from "La Conciergerie", once a palace).
So Charmander definitely has some very French connections. The only reason it's definitely not gonna be a PLZA is what you said: they already were available as secondary starters in X and Y. Having a mega already prevents it from being a PLZA starter, alongside the other Gen 1 and Gen 3 starters, if Gamefreak wants to give the PLZA starters new megas. Though gamefreak also loves breaking their own rules (or rather rules made up by fans lol).
Im thinking piplup surperior and cinderace
Extremely possible
I'm soft predicting Piplup and scorbunny.
For the grass starter, I could easily see sprignaittio but if they swerve us with snivy I'm not surprised
starters with typings base form and mega form:
Serperior- Grass/Fairy/Steel
Empoleon- Water/Flying/Ghost
Blaziken- Fire/Psychic/Dark
It would take a lot to explain how I got to those picks, but I feel like I'm close.
A mon with a mega getting a regional form would be redundant since gamefreak will defitely include them in their regular forms somehow in order to make the mega available.
For my own personal guess I’m gonna say that we’re going to get a Johto starter, a Unova one, and a Galar one. So Totodile, Snivy, and Scorbunny. Scorbunny is popular so it would make sense. Snivy would work because Serperior fits with Kalos on an aesthetic and themeatic level. And Totodile is cute… I want it because it’s cute lol.
A Sinnoh one seems very unlikely to me given that they got focus in BDSP, and were wild Pokémon in PLA.
Additionally, since the Kanto and Hoenn starters all have mega evolutions I’m gonna assume they’re all going to be obtainable in Z-A, just not as starters. Probably in the post-game? But we’ll have to see.
I have a region based on northwest Usa, and my legends game Ideas water starter is piplup, Based on Napoleon Dynamite which taked place and was filmed in Idaho, so I’m REALLY hoping the water starter isn’t Piplup, also I love the idea for totedile
Another note for Surperior being the grass starter is that in an interview, Ken Sugimori, the designer for the snivy line also based her off of Lady Oscar from The Rose of Versailes(prob spelt that wrong), Who was a france guard in her manga, so she has a another point of contention for being the starter, granted just because she was based on a French character dosent mean its confirmed but since the creator said she was based on it, and her being royalty i personally believe its almost guaranteed to be her
Ohhh that's awesome! Yes that ups her chances to be the same as Empoleon, but I'm convinced only one "royalty" figure can get in so I'm hoping it's her!
Honestly dude while I think that they're not gonna pick totodile as a starter I do really hope we get a quest that is related to the sewer monster, imagine how cool that would be.
@@justdominik9812 100% I hope they acknowledge it somehow
@@johtojonny btw it seems that there have been leaks from pokemon TCG that place totodile as a starter so it might actually happen.
The only thing I can confidently say at this point in time since we have nothing is that I can rule out gens 1, 3,, 9, and pla starters because they either have a mega already or are the current starters. As HPP pointed out, we don't know if the starters are getting Megas or regional variants. If it is Megas, it would be redundant to give them to one's that have one already. My picks as of rn are serperior, empoleon or primarina (I'll explain this split), cinderace. I don't think I need to explain serperior at all. For empoleon, they could have it represent a prominent historical French general or admiral but I hesitate as I'm not sure they would pick this for a 3rd game in a row. I pick primarina otherwise as it represents opera and operas and play were prominent entertainment methods in France. As for cinderace, it's the generic pick as idk what direction they're going with but it could be a fencer.
I just want us to have access to the Gen 6 starters early. I just want my chespin in the beginning of the game.
Friday August 30th, 2024
I think Piplup(For Empoleon) needs to be a starter for Legends Z-A because no Pokémon from Sinnoh got a regional form outside of the region. In Legends Arceus(older Sinnoh), we got Hisuian Sneasel but not Hisuian Weavile. Only Pokémon from Kanto(33), Johto(6), Hoenn(2), Unova(9), Kalos(3) and Alola(1) got regional forms outside of their home region.
Call me crazy, but I think we're going to see starters from Gens 2, 5, & 7 again. Apart from Incineroar (and Serperior to a smaller degree), the Pokemon from these generations have been in significant need for competitive buffs. Additionally these three generations are less popular and this gives a chance to reinvigorate interest in these starter sets. I'm naturally inclined to eliminate Gen 1 & 3 starters as they were fortunate to receive Mega Evolutions previously as well as Gen 8 & 9 starters because of recency bias, plus naturally Gen 6 is eliminated as the game takes place in Kalos.
One theory that I propose that would be really cool is that the Legends games will ultimately become a trilogy. The final set of unused starters from Gens 2/5/7 will be saved for the 3rd game in this trilogy.
Starters are gonna be turtwig, totodile and litten. Look at the Temporal Forces fun pack, it's what they dod with Legends Arceis just before the starters were revealed as well.
If it is the trio of Serperior/Primarina/Cinderace, I think this would be a combo:
Serperior: Grass/Fairy or Grass/Dragon (royalty with the fleur de lei)
Primarina: Water/Psychic (Opera composure)
Cinderace: Fire/Electric (football players have to stay energized on the field)
Just a theory of discussion, and open to hear what others have to say.
Getting caught up on watching videos today! Love this analysis! 😊 I’m thinking that we get our starters, we can catch Kalos starters, and we’re also gifted a starter from another gen like we did in XY. My guess is our chosen starters don’t mega but have new Kalosian forms. Then we get gifted gen 2 starters that get megas. Gen 2 because they need some love badly, and because other than that it’d be Gen 5, but Snivy’s gotta get a Kalosian form or we riot sooo Gen 2 it is. 😆
Serperior, yeah that one with its royal line I can see. But I don’t know what second type its form would have. Grass steel maybe to give it a royal gold line
But Emboar feels more likely as pigs are native to France. Typing there is hard as well, fire ground maybe as warthog ruin many fields
Some starters from Arceus did not inmeely make sense either to me so Feraligatr can be picked in my opinion, water fifth hg maybe to get with a wrestling theme
But two from Unovq cannot be selected so maybe they take Scoorbunny instead
Serperior Golf theme
Feraligatr Wresrling theme
Scorbunny Soccer theme
Probly won’t make sense though
I hope it’s just the Gen 6 trio of starters and they receive mega’s and then you can catch every other starter in the wild and all the starters get mega’s. Then, we can get a XY remake with new mega’s for the competitive players so they can either play with mega’s (xy) or no mega’s (sv) this will also keep competitive from becoming dry because they can’t wait till 2026 for gen 10 competitive. Keep in mind this is just a dream for me.
I'll admit you almost got me until I read the last sentence 😆
Serperior, Primarina, and Cinderace would be really cool! Although, I'm a big Incineroar fan, so replacing Cinderace with Incineroar would be my jam. I'm also a big Feraligatr fan, and I love that some rom hacks edit its typing to be Water/Dark, and I got fascinated by the legend in Paris that linked it to a Feraligatr. Not sure if a Water/Dark repeat would be alright to some tho.
I also just wanna appreciate that I like the editing in this video like a lot! And the footage choices you made to keep my eyes on what starter you're bringing up in every moment.
@@BuizelCream those are all great choices!
And thanks for your kind words 😁 you know I love having you around in the audience!
@@johtojonny You're welcome man, everytime! 😁🎶
I believe it's likely we will be getting the two starters. Where one will mega evolve an the other having a new form.
I feel like the Megas will be in regardless & won’t be the new starters. So, with what’s left, My choices would be Grookey, Totodile, and Litten. But, if that happened, it would be hard for me to choose.
Oh geez there’s a lot of good choices for starters for Legends ZA! On my right hand I want to say I’m going with that the TCG leak where it’s going to be Litten, Turtwig and Totodile but on my left hand I want to say Chikorita with Popplio and Tepig!
Kalos Meganium could be part fairy type as in it either becomes all about French roses or French perfume.
Kalos Primarina could be part dragon type to be based on the myth Melusine which is actually the inspiration for the Starbucks logo.
And Kalos Emboar could be a chef because French food I heard is supposed to be good. Oh and maybe part steel type because it uses cooking utensils!
Until then, let’s just see what happens with the starters! ❤️
Oh man turtwig would be so weird! But at least I'd get totodile 😶 (don't really like incin unless his new form is cooler)
Chiko, popplio, and tepig would be cute! I love all 3 so that would be my preferred outcome of these 2
Ohhh yes DRAGON type for Primarina! Now THAT would be dope! I mentioned Melusine and the reptilian form in the vid but didn't even think about how that would change her typing!
Ohhhh nice connection for Chikorita! That makes me happy since you're right that COULD put her in play
I think I would give more credit to Meganium being the grass starter because It fit the fairy typing with it flower and look like Florges, also it need buff otherwise because it's been since the beggining GF didn't touch it although being very few interesting. Nevertheless I don't think Meganium would be as likely as Serperior.
I like Totodile being the water starter, Empoleon is the most obvious choice since it's the most clear inspiration from France.
However I prefer the more obscure crocodile tale, it's perfect in my eyes especially when Empoleons design is alright France based so I feel like Furaligator could be more of a mystery.
I do not like Cinderace for the fire starter at all, yes football is the popular sport in France but that's not unique since football is by far one of the most popular sports globally.
Incineroar is far more connected to France as a cat and isn't as recent either whilst Cinderace was the generation just prior to gen 9.
If feel like Snivy will mostly likely will be the grass starter especially since theirs a Serperior on the gate of the Parfum Palace in X & Y.
Wait, think with me for a sec... What if, just like X and Y, there are 2 sets of starters??? The special for this game ones (that are probably gonna have regional forms) and a second set of starters that is the Kalos starters that could have mega evolutions in this game. Its just like in X and Y, we had new pokemon for the real starters and the second set got mega evolutions. Doesn't it make sense??
You have convinced me of Totodile
We have to take mega evolutions into account though because think about all the Pokémon that has mega evolutions and they’re probably gonna add more
I would add something that makes primarina alot more likely is that france is very famous for operas and primarina is partly based on an opera singer.
Is this manly because I want a Phantom of the Opera (which is from france) pokemon... yes...
Ideal picks
Primarina, Torchchick, Snivy
Totodile or I don’t want it 😫. Totodile has been on the back burner since Gold
I can see them just doing kalos starters and then giving them megas.
I swear if they give incin a regional form and its gonna be a buff its gonna be crazy.
Personally, I feel like the starters are going to be Totodile, Litten and Snivy
Totodile and turtwig are my 2 favourite by far. I would like those two and litten to make it as long as they get new evolutions. There is a new card pack coming with those 3 on the front. Too good to be true for sure
Only five starters doesnt have 7 star raid yet and I believe the PLZA starters will be from the starters who haven't have 7 star raid yet
I’m thinking piplup for water and either chimchar or tepig for fire and then honestly either snivey or turtwig for grass
Honestly I don't really have a preference lol.i already got my favorite starter as one of them in legends so I'm good. Maybe Snivy since it can use some love. Personally despise the Piplup line thanks to the anime so would rather not see him 😂😂...
I’m not sure abt the legitimacy but I think I saw a leak
Of crockarock and now I know abt that sewer story it does make sense
Starters in my opinion
Snivy, turtwig or grookey
Piplup, totodile or sobble
Scorbunny, Litten or chimchar
Watch them just be the regular Kalos starters but now they have mega evolutions
@@Oscarsome that would be so funny
When is the direct?
Puss in boots and Phantom of the opera and Marie-Antoinette are french. Could be a chance for megaevolution for the Paldeastarters?
Snivy Litten Totodile or Chikorita Tepig Popplio
Both of these I'd be so happy with haha
@@johtojonny for me its the only logical choice because Its literally the remaining 6 starters from the pool of starters GF chose for PLA
Jonny, what do you think of XY’s story/ main quest? I’m playing through it again and while Lysander and team flare are dog shit I think the actual adventure is pretty underrated, probably would be better than SwSh if the rivals like Shauna were good for anything.
I'll be honest. X and Y, to me, failed so much on all fronts that I don't remember almost anything from it save for:
- the first cutscene you meet the box legendary
- the fall area where you catch pumpkaboo
- the e4 champion (I think?! Idk, the girl with wings)
- lumiose was annoying to navigate and it was exacerbated by that awful, repetitive theme and the amount of the game that took place solely there
So to answer your question I musta throught the story and adventure was nothing short of forgettable
@@johtojonny I’ll be honest lumiose is a pain and the story/ postgame are weak. But the main adventure is a lot more fun than I remembered it being back in 2013. I’m 4 badges in and having fun. Megas aren’t well implemented but you can basically ignore them.
For me it’s a good way to cope with the boredom of waiting for ZA news. I’m walking through lumiose and seeing actual locations from the ZA trailer like the aqueduct from route 13 might be where the hawlucha guy was catching the dragonair.
@@AJ-ey5eh I'm really glad you're having fun! That's all that's important! 😁 and it def sounds like a good way to pass the time if you're enjoying yourself
Ok so these are my predictions for the starters
Serperior
Blaziken
Empoleon
Charizard, Blastoise and Venasaur would be cool or Charizard, Blastoise and Torterra
@@besset3807 wait-
Click baited
Turrtera , incineroar , Totodile ( forgot final evo name). will be the starters, mark my words
Torterra?!?!?! Explainnnn
@@johtojonny France made tanks and I can see turrtera as a new tank Pokémon and maybe gaining the steel type
To me Quaquaval is based on Brazilian Carnaval
Didnt age well; its turtwig litten and totadile subtypings are unknown but look into tcg leaks
Wrong, Joe from Serebii debunked it
Piplup, treecko, tepig would be my favorite lineup personally.
Serperior Primarina Incineroar
As much as I would like to see Serperior represented as a starter. I can't see it. When I'm theorizing which starters they'll pick, I'm disqualifying any starter from a generation that was used on Legends Arceus.
I had also heard rumors that mega evolutions would be returning. So I also disqualified any starter that already has a mega evolution.
With that said. I'm thinking Piplup would be the water starter and Scorbunny for the fire starter. I just can't seem to decide what I think the grass starter could be. Sprigatito is probably the next best candidate.
if it is a mixed set of starters, they should have regional forms in their final stage. The only positive that ZA would have is new pokemon and new regional forms. But the rest of the game I am not looking forward to.