It would be cool if the Gen 6 starters get a mega, and if later-Gen Pokemon in general got a mega. With how many Gen 1 and 3 megas already exist, it would be a bit of a shame if they prioritized the earlier gens for megas again. Though, I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s a third Charizard mega or something lol
fun fact! in the indigo disk trailer, Rowlet was shown alongside Snivy, Oshawott was shown alongside Piplup, and Cyndaquil was shown alongside... Torchic. this does not seem like coincidence to me
It may be unlikely due to his already existing mega but Torchic is also great at representing France since the rooster is one of France's symbol (just look at Footix, a french football icon at 3:59 in the background)
itd be interesting if they did like they did in the kalos games and gave you two starters the first the new ones with the regional forms and the original kalos ones witb megas
I know that Piplup and Snivy will be starters, since they're French, but Torchic would be really cool. Even if it doesn't make sense since it already has a Mega
daft punk empoleon is absolutely bonkers i love him these videos have such consistently high production values. the originally composed and always changing bgm, the custom art for each design, and the detailed script are so wonderful in every one of your videos and i appreciate the details every time.
I know people are assuming that the game will somehow take place in the future, I personally don't think that's the case... My impression of the trailer was that the neon futuristic effect was meant to show what Lumiose City was _going_ to become, not what it will be like in-game. Its visualizing the great plans they have for the city (hence why the "redevelopment plan" is shown on parchment paper).
@@l_Tea You apparently didn't read... "the neon futuristic effect was meant to show what Lumiose City was going to become, not what it will be like in-game." There are smart phones in the modern day, and the game will likely take place during the past. It showed a smart phone because its a preview of what the city will be like later on.
i personally hope that we get both types of group like how X and Y gave us the kalos starters plus the kanto starters with new mega forms under their belts Z-A could give us the mix and match set with new regional forms, and then the original kalos starters now with newly discovered megas
I personally think that Game Freak and Pokémon Works are going crazy adding in megas, as this is a legends title it could easily see many broken megas because like PLA the online functions don't have to exist. I'm talking gen 6 megas to make up for the lack in x and y (including starters) charzard z combining both mega charzards. Having a brand new ability that hurts charzard because the z form eventually tames into the x and y form, same with mewtwo Z. Then each starter will have two megas, one for kalosian/luminosian form and one for original starter form (would be weird to not let original form mega as well) zygard gets 110% 150% and 200% mega forms (like with rayquaza, zygard can mega after collecting enough cells to achieve each form, sending zygard out in 100% form each time.) Xernius and yvaltal megas to swap domains, with life comes death, death births new life. All previous megas will exist in game, for non kalos pokemon, hoopa distortions let you capture them. Elemental monkies used to show off mega mechanic in game (3 new megas) Watchdog will also mega Flygon gets mega Furfrow megas with 1 stone, megas exhibit unique qualities for each trim. Many more magas wait in store
This is the first thing to make me genuinely _want_ Z-A to be set in the future, wow As for the question you posed, I've seen it floated that we might get two sets of starters again, like in XY, and I think it'd be a perfect parallel if the first set was non-native with regional forms while the second set was Kalosian starters with new Megas
I don’t think pokemon Z-A is going to be in the future,first of all the name of the game:the name of the game is the name of that old giant dude from the x/y game who killed a lot of pokemon in the past,also I don’t think that it will be in the future because the trailer is talking about the creation of the city of light also maybe that it wouldn’t have been created in the past and it’s a project: I might be wrong and I hope it will be in the future too
please return to having 4 artists designing Pokemon. are you becoming a "comment channel"? when you make Five Nights In Ultra Space? when you do, we eatinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
Timestamps: 0:00 Intro 1:55 How the Starters wouldn´t be from that Region 3:45 Starters for Legends Z-A (ranked by Probability) 5:58-6:26-6:56 The Lumiosian Pokemon-Counterparts 7:26 But... 10:00 Mega Evolution (Sigh...) 11:03-11:44-12:08 Mega Kalos Starters 12:43 Outro
My friend and I were talking about the “Ride” Pokémon in XY and how they would appear in Z-A: Skiddo/Gogoat (Evo/Mega?) Mamoswine (Variant/Mega) Rhyhorn (Mega Rhyperior?) Variant Altaria (Thunderstorm?) Mega Noivern (Hang Glider) Water Travel Mon? Plus alternative methods of traveling: - Bikes (The bike was invented in France) - Roller Skates (Invented in France) - Carriages (XY’s Taxi Service)
Nice!! Double prediction with a twist! Honestly? I'd be ecstatic to see megas of the original starters, though I think I'd be more excited to see regional variants of existing ones. Love the designs you made for both!!!
Question: What is stopping most starters from being foreign to their "home" region. If you play red and blue you find that Charmander, Squirtle, and Bulbasaur cannot be caught in the wild in their own region. However, in some later generations, they are available in the wild (therefore numerously). Why would they be more populous in some regions that are not even their home region? Are they native to one of these other regions? It's crazy to think that the Kantonian starters may not even be truly Kantonian Pokemon at all. At that point who even knows what Pokemon are native and which ones are invasive species. Your starters are either Pokemon endangered but only within their own home region OR actually invasive species.
I'm pretty sure the neon imagery is just that imagery, at most it may represent the present by way of the player character as they, like in Arceus, may be going into the past so the more future-y stuff is to represent the present day player who knows modern day Lumiose City going into the past to help it develop
I don't think relying on Mega Evolutions to shake up the starters fits with the Legends gameplay, at least unless they change the system to fit better. Mega Evolution has, up to this point, been strictly a combat mechanic, and so when letting your starter out on the overworld it would look exactly the same as it did back in Gen 6. This isn't to mention the way fights were set up in Legends: Arceus, where the large majority of them were brief encounters with wild Pokémon, with major fights few and far between, so you'd rarely ever get to see them. As previously mentioned, changing how Mega Evolution works could remedy this, but as it stands now, I'd much prefer regional forms, or even new evolutions to signify how they've evolved alongside a now futuristic world (if that does end up being the time period of the game)
Something to keep in mind though is that if ZA does the whole "back in time" thing like Legends Arceus, France was still a nation that wasn't that isolated. Japan however for most of it's history has been, and going back the same amount then that potentially means we're looking at the Frankish Kingdom. Potentially that means more villages to go to, more trainers, and maybe some sort of proto Pokemon League perhaps? Clearly not 1-to-1 but something that would fit within a European region moreso than one on Japan. Course this is all spitball from some internet rando so take it all for what it is, speculation. Edit: That could also be an explanation for non reagional starters. It was well after the viking age started so it could be explained by them being brought by traders, especially given how the Kingdom of Normandy took over the throne of England (or Galar in universe). Story potential is there, but just to wait and see what GF does with it.
Piplup is my favourite starter! I really hope they are in z-A Edit: I absolutely LOVE your designs but a common (kind of) problem with your designs are that the starters' new forms are far too close to the original's. Though you did put a really cool twist on each of the megas!
Yeah I've grown to see the appeal and logic of a modern Legends game. A futuristic Legends though is already making my brain resist that thought. Gamefreak's writer should really be good in order to create a very consistent lore timeline from the happenings of XY, the next pokemon games, and then Legends ZA.
I saw one or two of these "legends ZA starters" videos and the algorithm went crazy recommending them all the time! I've already watched like 5 out of curiosity and was ready to drop them but I love your art so I couldn't miss your thoughts on these! Great vid and art! I almost wish Gamefreak give us alternate starters AND Kalos starters mega evos. Kalos was the 2nd Gen I skipped (after the 4th one), so I don't have nostalgia for it. I do like the lore, though, and enjoyed Legends Arceus a lot. I'm looking forward to this game and your videos on it!
I'd LOVE to see megas of the three Kalosian starters! I'd obviously hope for it to happen either way, whether they're the main starters or not, but if they aren't then I still hope they're available like the Sinnoh starters were in Legends Arceus!
I just now noticed that the type triangle goes the same direction for both types of the _Legends Arceus_ starters. Fighting < Ghost < Dark < Fighting. Almost. Ghost isn’t SE against Fighting. Your selections of Steel, Electric, and Fairy are close to an inverted triangle, but it actually puts Empoleon at a disadvantage, since it’s still weak to Serperior’s Grass, but unlike Serperior’s Steel vs Cinderace’s Fairy, Empoleon has nothing to hit Serperior with for SA damage. This has the function of making Serperior the objectively best starter for type effectiveness. I do love Cinderace with the light wheels though.
Remember, X and Y had you choose between the Kalos starters and the original Kanto starters. So it's possible that both the Kalos starters and a mixed and matched set could be featured.
calling it now, its likely that totodile, grookey and litten from process of elimination and popularity will be used. i eliminated them using: does it already have a mega? is it already too popular? no paldean starters, etc. i feel like atleast one of them will be used but idk feel free to call me an idiot when the games release and im totally wrong granted i haven't watched basically any of this video yet edit: also totodile hasn't gotten much attention but is pretty well liked, grookey is pretty hated on, they could definitely change it, and litten, well you already know what incinaroars issue was, yeah? edit: eh yeah, it feels like snivy, piplup, and scorbunny are pretty likely too.
Those regional variants are so cool, you turned the future paradox style actually good. Also the reasoning of using the frenchiest trio with the future theme makes a lot of sense.
I honestly believe when it comes to mega, if there is anything with the past that we get to be in, I believe we will personally have to find the specific mega stones and mine then ourselves.
@@supershoutmonx8327 In my opinion, I think that the hologram that the Pikachu runs through is to represent modern day Lumiose, hence why there would be a phone, but it really is still too early to tell
@@supershoutmonx8327that’s a holographic version of a future kalos at the end of shows the planned redevelopment on paper so it’s more than likely they are gonna make it the lumiose we see in x and y
I think that the starters will be Piplup, Snivy and Torchic since they were seen next to the legends starters in the scarlet and violet indigo disc trailer. I don't know if they will all get new megas or forms but that's just what I think.
That doesn’t mean anything they showed the starters like that bc that’s showing what starters could be found in that area but do think it’ll be snivy piplup but not torchic if they plan on giving megas
I honestly think we’re gonna be getting off for the kanto starters and whatever other starters, they will get me evolutions. This is the generation where we almost immediately got access to six different starters and regional forms makes sense for anyone who already has a mega evolution.
I still cant believe that its a pokemon Z game like kalos was such a naked region in terms of story amongst other things and now it will be clothed finally COMEPLETE
But what if they do like X and Y, and we get TWO pack of starter. The one from Kalos with a new mega evolution and the one from other regions with a new regional form?
It might also be best to keep in form to perhaps choose the starter pokemon that also do not have a new form; since the Galar trio already have a mode change when their G-MAXs, it might be best to single them out too. PLUS, if we take into account how Legends Arceus proceeded things, it's likely we'll have to assume that all Pokemon (both Kalos & non-regionals + Megas) that appeared in the XY Pokedex will appear in Z-A; just like how Legends Arceus did with all pokemon that were available in Diamond, Pearl, & Platinum; plus a Few extra additions like the region variants or branch evos
I actually had my own kalos starter megas thought up for fun and I went with evolving their DND traits, turning them from a basic Fighter/Mage/Rogue trio into a Paladin, a Sorcerer/Warlock/Whatever I can't remember the differences, and a Ninja Master, Chestnaught would be able to grow all kinds of paladin-y weapons like lances, hammers and big shields from each of its arms, Delphox would get a big long tree branch staff that doubles as a witches broom, and for Greninja I decided to be cheeky and tie the Ash Greninja form into its mega, even giving it lore in a pokedex entry detailing a legend that if a Greninja and its trainers bond is at its peak, they can achieve this form without the need of a mega stone
Legends: Arceus had Variants + Catchable Gen 4 Depending on how many Pokémon will be in Legends: Z-A, we might get 3 sets of Starters minimum! XY featured Kalos’s trio, AND Kanto’s trio were Given as well. If EVERY Mega is back, that might include Hoenn’s trio as well. (Not including M Rayquaza, P Groudon, P Kyogre, M Latias or M Latios) What this means *potentially* Mixed Trio (“Legends”): Snivy (Grass/Poison) Scorbunny (Fire/Steel? /Electric? /Ground?) Piplup (Water/Ice? Water/Flying?) Kanto Trio (Obtainable) Bulbasaur, Charmander, Squirtle Hoenn Trio (Obtainable) Treecko, Torchic, Mudkip Kalos Trio (Obtainable) Chespin, Fennekin, Froakie* **Battle Bond Starters//Greninja ≠ “Mega” Kalos//Greninja???**
i think what they might do is give us new regional forms of the Kalos starters but also give us the mega evolution factor so your ideas might just be thrown in a combination of what could possibly happen
BDSP releasing close to Legends: Arceus being the reasoning for the alternate starters is why I think it's very possible we might get Kalos starters for Legends: ZA, but with mega evolutions this time. Glad to see someone else thinks the same! I love your mega designs, Chesnaught and Greninja have rather busy designs but you managed to make them work even with more details.
My subspition on legends za is that we will travel to the past or have cutseanes to the past and the future and get to have portals to those time periods, also it might influence the future
Your on the right track but the legends starters where selected from Pokémon starters that weren’t available on switch like rowlet there was no way of catching one at the time and cyndiquil was from a game with no origins nor remakes on the switch and same with oshawatt so remake the list without gen 1,4,8,9 and any other gen I forgot to mention Revise: fire Water Grass Torch Mud Triko Pig. Toto. Snivy Litten. Popli. Chikor
I believe Z-A is in the past, the reason it looks futuristic is because it looks like a blueprint, there might be a phone in 1800 pokemon because pokemon tech might be advanced
I feel like the game will be set in the past, though I can see the Gen 6 starters getting Mega Evolutions. As for the main starters, I can see Serperior being Grass/Ghost with a ragged look compared to its Unovan counterpart, referencing deposed royalty with the French Revolution of 1812, Cinderace being Fire/Fighting with martial arts gear based on savate (French kickboxing), and Empoleon being Water/Psychic (this one is a stretch, but I'm stumped for what to have it based on, so suggestions are appreciated).
Or maybe like in original X & Y, you actually get two starters (one gen 6 & one gen 1)- so maybe you get two in this game as well, including the original Kalos starters now with megas?
i’ve been saying this a lot but i’m pretty confident we’ll get those starters or most of them as our first 3, and the kalosian starters right after with megas, like how in x and y we got starters then kanto starters with megas
My idea for an Alola Region Legends game is called Pokemon Legends Dimensional. It take place mainly in Akala Island with the labratory. Basically it takes place in the future, so after champions league. Where you go and stop Ultra Beasts. I dont have many predictions, but i feel like the starters could be, Grookey, Squirtle, Torchic. All kinda represent parts of the alola region. Grookey represents the grass and the music. Squirtle represents the Beaches around alola and the water in the fact that alola is made of 4 (5 if you count aether paradise) islands, and Torchic represents the Festivals inside of Alola.
Glad to see someone else thinking Legends could just be heavily involving the title Legendary rather than being in the past. Those are some great designs for "evolving" Starters, my initial thought of having a Chaos Pokemon who can cause rapid evolution in Pokemon, the source not only of Mega Evolution but also the Paradox Pokemon. This gives reasoning for why we have 2 that look like thier Megas and an explanation for why the beasts have paradoxes, being altered to suit a harsh tropical environment awakened similar traits that Ho-oh did.
I want to put it out there. Is win they did a remake or one name Mina omega, ruby and alpha sapphire, and they gave the other two starters mega forms in that game. People were hoping that all starters forget, make up forms at some point, because the gimmick was kind of knew some people thought it would be something in the last for a few games. So I don’t think we should fully rule out old starter. I think it’s mega evolution is coming back, opens up the door for possibility for the other starters distill get mega forms so the sales center quail is not a possibility instead of getting new regional forms, they could actually beginning mega forms.
Maybe instead of Kanto starters as the second starters we get Galar starters? I really honestly want Sobble…. Inteleon being the Secret Agent Pokemon and some James Bond movies were in France does hold some logic…
Ok, so X/Y did a thing where you get your starter, then you get a second starter later from the Kanto starters who had a mega (or two if you're someone's favorite) I'd love them to play it like you get your cool set of mixed up starters with a new final evo and then a second starter from Kalos with a new mega
I agree about Scorebunny and Piplup, but I feel the Chikorita line is in far greater need of a regional variant than Snivy line. Snivy line can be saved for an eventual Legends Celebi.
Your options sound amazing!❤ But i think it would be cool if we would get a new form of Meganium or (like you said) serperior since we haven't seen them much in newer games, and i think they could give them cool mega evolution, especially Meganium🦕
I hope if one of my favourites are the starter, they don’t end up being disappointing or worse like my favourite starter of all time did in Hisui (Decidueye).
i really like this take but I feel like the colour schemes of the pokemon staying the same in Z-A isn't really sitting right with me, like how legends arceus starters basically revamped all the colours of the pokemon along with their design. i think having the same colour scheme makes feel more like a future paradox pokemon.
Even if we just get the Kalos Starters, it could be possible that other Starters like Snivy or Piplup are catchable/obtainable in-game similar to Sinnoh Starters in PLA.
Honestly I kinda hope they take a why not both approach. New starters with regional forms but no megas, but the Kalos starters and their megas can be obtained in the wild. I just love the new starters old region thing and hope they keep it even if it isn't neccecary
I think the secondery typing is also going to be super efective against the second typing of the already weak one . For example grass steel fire ground water ice
Alternatively, the Mixed/ *Legends* Trio COULD be as follows: Bulbasaur *Battle Bond* Torchic *Battle Bond* Froakie *Battle Bond* INSTEAD of “Megas” they’ll ALL be referred to as “Battle Bond” Forms, since that’s what LEADS to a strong connection to ACHIEVE a Mega Evolution-Strong *BONDS* between the Trainer and Pokémon while in *BATTLE* ! (Since Legends: Arceus didn’t have “Held Items”, Mega Stones might not even appear in Z-A…?)
It would be cool if the Gen 6 starters get a mega, and if later-Gen Pokemon in general got a mega. With how many Gen 1 and 3 megas already exist, it would be a bit of a shame if they prioritized the earlier gens for megas again. Though, I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s a third Charizard mega or something lol
Mega charizard z
I wouldn't mind if Blastoise and Venusaur both got one new mega each, to match Charizards two. No other Kanto megas tho, please x)
@zsigmondfeher4624 That sounds like a Pokemon based ripoff of DBZ 😂 (RIP Toriyama, you were a GOAT)
Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if they only introduced like 5 new megas and that's it
Mega Zard Z and Mega Zard A
fun fact! in the indigo disk trailer, Rowlet was shown alongside Snivy, Oshawott was shown alongside Piplup, and Cyndaquil was shown alongside... Torchic. this does not seem like coincidence to me
It may be unlikely due to his already existing mega but Torchic is also great at representing France since the rooster is one of France's symbol (just look at Footix, a french football icon at 3:59 in the background)
@@Hirubanif regional forms remain a thing we don't know if torchic will still have one
itd be interesting if they did like they did in the kalos games and gave you two starters the first the new ones with the regional forms and the original kalos ones witb megas
@@prcervi or like how some people wanted regional mega's
I know that Piplup and Snivy will be starters, since they're French, but Torchic would be really cool. Even if it doesn't make sense since it already has a Mega
daft punk empoleon is absolutely bonkers i love him
these videos have such consistently high production values. the originally composed and always changing bgm, the custom art for each design, and the detailed script are so wonderful in every one of your videos and i appreciate the details every time.
I know people are assuming that the game will somehow take place in the future, I personally don't think that's the case... My impression of the trailer was that the neon futuristic effect was meant to show what Lumiose City was _going_ to become, not what it will be like in-game. Its visualizing the great plans they have for the city (hence why the "redevelopment plan" is shown on parchment paper).
I agree but then why is there a smartphone?
@@l_Teait’s supposed to be a look into the vision of the future that they want to build lumiose into, so what we see is the modern version of lumiose
@@l_Tea You apparently didn't read... "the neon futuristic effect was meant to show what Lumiose City was going to become, not what it will be like in-game." There are smart phones in the modern day, and the game will likely take place during the past. It showed a smart phone because its a preview of what the city will be like later on.
Exactly!
It could also just be a blueprint style, you do see stylized blueprints that have similar effects to the trailer be used
i personally hope that we get both types of group
like how X and Y gave us the kalos starters plus the kanto starters with new mega forms under their belts
Z-A could give us the mix and match set with new regional forms, and then the original kalos starters now with newly discovered megas
I personally think that Game Freak and Pokémon Works are going crazy adding in megas, as this is a legends title it could easily see many broken megas because like PLA the online functions don't have to exist. I'm talking gen 6 megas to make up for the lack in x and y (including starters) charzard z combining both mega charzards. Having a brand new ability that hurts charzard because the z form eventually tames into the x and y form, same with mewtwo Z.
Then each starter will have two megas, one for kalosian/luminosian form and one for original starter form (would be weird to not let original form mega as well)
zygard gets 110% 150% and 200% mega forms (like with rayquaza, zygard can mega after collecting enough cells to achieve each form, sending zygard out in 100% form each time.)
Xernius and yvaltal megas to swap domains, with life comes death, death births new life.
All previous megas will exist in game, for non kalos pokemon, hoopa distortions let you capture them.
Elemental monkies used to show off mega mechanic in game (3 new megas)
Watchdog will also mega
Flygon gets mega
Furfrow megas with 1 stone, megas exhibit unique qualities for each trim.
Many more magas wait in store
@@fdrehug7318 that could work, the monkeys, furfrou, and patrat line are still yet to arrive on the switch after all
Flygon was supposed to get a mega and be dragon and bug.
This is the first thing to make me genuinely _want_ Z-A to be set in the future, wow
As for the question you posed, I've seen it floated that we might get two sets of starters again, like in XY, and I think it'd be a perfect parallel if the first set was non-native with regional forms while the second set was Kalosian starters with new Megas
I don’t think pokemon Z-A is going to be in the future,first of all the name of the game:the name of the game is the name of that old giant dude from the x/y game who killed a lot of pokemon in the past,also I don’t think that it will be in the future because the trailer is talking about the creation of the city of light also maybe that it wouldn’t have been created in the past and it’s a project: I might be wrong and I hope it will be in the future too
The points made in this video are so good, people have been following patterns without actually considering the logic behind them.
6 designs??? We feastin
please return to having 4 artists designing Pokemon. are you becoming a "comment channel"? when you make Five Nights In Ultra Space? when you do, we eatinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
Oh yo hi bonnyjohn! Nice seeing ya here
Your deep logical conlusions and outside view of things is impressive and detailed, keep up with the project!
i really like how you drew chicorita here 2:02 looks like a little happy yappy dog ready to go yip yip!
Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
1:55 How the Starters wouldn´t be from that Region
3:45 Starters for Legends Z-A (ranked by Probability)
5:58-6:26-6:56 The Lumiosian Pokemon-Counterparts
7:26 But...
10:00 Mega Evolution (Sigh...)
11:03-11:44-12:08 Mega Kalos Starters
12:43 Outro
My friend and I were talking about the “Ride” Pokémon in XY and how they would appear in Z-A:
Skiddo/Gogoat (Evo/Mega?)
Mamoswine (Variant/Mega)
Rhyhorn (Mega Rhyperior?)
Variant Altaria (Thunderstorm?)
Mega Noivern (Hang Glider)
Water Travel Mon?
Plus alternative methods of traveling:
- Bikes (The bike was invented in France)
- Roller Skates (Invented in France)
- Carriages (XY’s Taxi Service)
Oh my gosh I hope we get to ride on Gogoat, it's one of my favorite pokemon
Nice!! Double prediction with a twist! Honestly? I'd be ecstatic to see megas of the original starters, though I think I'd be more excited to see regional variants of existing ones. Love the designs you made for both!!!
Question: What is stopping most starters from being foreign to their "home" region. If you play red and blue you find that Charmander, Squirtle, and Bulbasaur cannot be caught in the wild in their own region. However, in some later generations, they are available in the wild (therefore numerously).
Why would they be more populous in some regions that are not even their home region?
Are they native to one of these other regions? It's crazy to think that the Kantonian starters may not even be truly Kantonian Pokemon at all. At that point who even knows what Pokemon are native and which ones are invasive species.
Your starters are either Pokemon endangered but only within their own home region OR actually invasive species.
I think that’s why they call those starters from that region one of a kind as they aren’t findable in that region
These are the most unique designs and inspirations for regional variants I've seen. Good on you.
I'm pretty sure the neon imagery is just that imagery, at most it may represent the present by way of the player character as they, like in Arceus, may be going into the past so the more future-y stuff is to represent the present day player who knows modern day Lumiose City going into the past to help it develop
I don't think relying on Mega Evolutions to shake up the starters fits with the Legends gameplay, at least unless they change the system to fit better. Mega Evolution has, up to this point, been strictly a combat mechanic, and so when letting your starter out on the overworld it would look exactly the same as it did back in Gen 6. This isn't to mention the way fights were set up in Legends: Arceus, where the large majority of them were brief encounters with wild Pokémon, with major fights few and far between, so you'd rarely ever get to see them. As previously mentioned, changing how Mega Evolution works could remedy this, but as it stands now, I'd much prefer regional forms, or even new evolutions to signify how they've evolved alongside a now futuristic world (if that does end up being the time period of the game)
Something to keep in mind though is that if ZA does the whole "back in time" thing like Legends Arceus, France was still a nation that wasn't that isolated. Japan however for most of it's history has been, and going back the same amount then that potentially means we're looking at the Frankish Kingdom. Potentially that means more villages to go to, more trainers, and maybe some sort of proto Pokemon League perhaps? Clearly not 1-to-1 but something that would fit within a European region moreso than one on Japan.
Course this is all spitball from some internet rando so take it all for what it is, speculation.
Edit: That could also be an explanation for non reagional starters. It was well after the viking age started so it could be explained by them being brought by traders, especially given how the Kingdom of Normandy took over the throne of England (or Galar in universe). Story potential is there, but just to wait and see what GF does with it.
@@Lv-sl3rm very well-articulated comment, you especially sold me on the whole isolation point
your presentation skills are impeccable, always a pleasure to watch!
Piplup is my favourite starter! I really hope they are in z-A
Edit: I absolutely LOVE your designs but a common (kind of) problem with your designs are that the starters' new forms are far too close to the original's. Though you did put a really cool twist on each of the megas!
I’ll just take what you say and apply that to Scorbunny
Thanks 😊
( 6:30 ) one-eyed cyborg Chicken? If it’s shiny is green, I’m totally naming him Gigan.
i want the original kalos starters and your theory at the end has truly reignited my hope for it
Yeah I've grown to see the appeal and logic of a modern Legends game. A futuristic Legends though is already making my brain resist that thought. Gamefreak's writer should really be good in order to create a very consistent lore timeline from the happenings of XY, the next pokemon games, and then Legends ZA.
I saw one or two of these "legends ZA starters" videos and the algorithm went crazy recommending them all the time! I've already watched like 5 out of curiosity and was ready to drop them but I love your art so I couldn't miss your thoughts on these! Great vid and art!
I almost wish Gamefreak give us alternate starters AND Kalos starters mega evos. Kalos was the 2nd Gen I skipped (after the 4th one), so I don't have nostalgia for it. I do like the lore, though, and enjoyed Legends Arceus a lot. I'm looking forward to this game and your videos on it!
Just commenting to let you know that your Pokémon illustrations are absolutely adorable
Delphox Mega was really good
Tbh I just want Torterra to get some love. It's my fav starter so heavy bias
Based Torterra enjoyer
Need a mega Torterra!🙏
I love Torterra
Torterra needs a mega so do the other Gen 4 starters but I think ageaslash needs a mega sword storm army of storms
2:18 and pokemon has NEVER shown clear favoritism towards certain starters **looks at charizard and blaziken** NEVER
I'd LOVE to see megas of the three Kalosian starters! I'd obviously hope for it to happen either way, whether they're the main starters or not, but if they aren't then I still hope they're available like the Sinnoh starters were in Legends Arceus!
12:12 The gummy frobbles! Oh, no, you were going for the tongue. Would have been a funny callback to that weird line though lol
I just now noticed that the type triangle goes the same direction for both types of the _Legends Arceus_ starters. Fighting < Ghost < Dark < Fighting. Almost. Ghost isn’t SE against Fighting.
Your selections of Steel, Electric, and Fairy are close to an inverted triangle, but it actually puts Empoleon at a disadvantage, since it’s still weak to Serperior’s Grass, but unlike Serperior’s Steel vs Cinderace’s Fairy, Empoleon has nothing to hit Serperior with for SA damage. This has the function of making Serperior the objectively best starter for type effectiveness.
I do love Cinderace with the light wheels though.
I completely agree with that!
Also Love the Ciderace!
Remember, X and Y had you choose between the Kalos starters and the original Kanto starters. So it's possible that both the Kalos starters and a mixed and matched set could be featured.
calling it now, its likely that totodile, grookey and litten from process of elimination and popularity will be used.
i eliminated them using: does it already have a mega? is it already too popular? no paldean starters, etc.
i feel like atleast one of them will be used but idk feel free to call me an idiot when the games release and im totally wrong
granted i haven't watched basically any of this video yet
edit: also totodile hasn't gotten much attention but is pretty well liked, grookey is pretty hated on, they could definitely change it, and litten, well you already know what incinaroars issue was, yeah?
edit: eh yeah, it feels like snivy, piplup, and scorbunny are pretty likely too.
8:59 what song is this?
When I'm bored I start humming the music of your videos!
I love lumiosian serperior because I love snakes 🐍
I like complete zygarde the most
Those regional variants are so cool, you turned the future paradox style actually good.
Also the reasoning of using the frenchiest trio with the future theme makes a lot of sense.
Bit of a coincidence but cinderace kinda looks like it takes inspiration from the tour de france
Ah yes P E R F E C T I O N
IDc if cinderace design is horrible I just love scorbunny and will choose it any day as a starter choice
I hope there are non gen 6 starters that get regional forms and you can find the gen 6 starters and they get megas
I honestly believe when it comes to mega, if there is anything with the past that we get to be in, I believe we will personally have to find the specific mega stones and mine then ourselves.
Interesting take! I honestly can't tell if this is game is gonna set in the past or future, either way, I hope its good!
Probably in the future because he pointed out the phone
@@supershoutmonx8327 In my opinion, I think that the hologram that the Pikachu runs through is to represent modern day Lumiose, hence why there would be a phone, but it really is still too early to tell
@@TotallyNotTheQueen Fair
probably in the past since it was hinted that its based off of the redevelopment program that happened in france back in the 1800s!!
@@supershoutmonx8327that’s a holographic version of a future kalos at the end of shows the planned redevelopment on paper so it’s more than likely they are gonna make it the lumiose we see in x and y
Your artstyle is so COOL I like it a lot :)
I didn’t hear anyone thinking Z-A taking place in the 1800s, I only saw the trailer an immediately assumed a cyberpunk future vibe
Ah you didn't see poketubers theorycrafting just hours after the reveal trailer. It's the most common theory out there.
The starter final forms made me smile. Thank you.
Dang, had us in the first half ngl
I hope popplio does come
You forgot not
Mega Delphox would be a very good reason to pick Fennekin ngl
I literally cheered the moment you told off Ash Greninja. 🤣
I think that the starters will be Piplup, Snivy and Torchic since they were seen next to the legends starters in the scarlet and violet indigo disc trailer. I don't know if they will all get new megas or forms but that's just what I think.
I would like to also hear your opinions as well
That doesn’t mean anything they showed the starters like that bc that’s showing what starters could be found in that area but do think it’ll be snivy piplup but not torchic if they plan on giving megas
I honestly think we’re gonna be getting off for the kanto starters and whatever other starters, they will get me evolutions. This is the generation where we almost immediately got access to six different starters and regional forms makes sense for anyone who already has a mega evolution.
I still cant believe that its a pokemon Z game like kalos was such a naked region in terms of story amongst other things and now it will be clothed finally COMEPLETE
Yeah kalos was the most needing of a legends game
all the kalos music in the background of the video is giving me so much nostalgia as it was my first pokemon game
I love your take that doesn't just involve past Serperior, Empoleon and Cinderace👍
“The answer is that we dont” made laugh and im not sure why lol
I love these starters! They're going to be on a Pokémon Legends Z-A trailer.
finally, someone with a brain. legends ZA will definitely be in the future
But what if they do like X and Y, and we get TWO pack of starter.
The one from Kalos with a new mega evolution and the one from other regions with a new regional form?
It might also be best to keep in form to perhaps choose the starter pokemon that also do not have a new form; since the Galar trio already have a mode change when their G-MAXs, it might be best to single them out too.
PLUS, if we take into account how Legends Arceus proceeded things, it's likely we'll have to assume that all Pokemon (both Kalos & non-regionals + Megas) that appeared in the XY Pokedex will appear in Z-A; just like how Legends Arceus did with all pokemon that were available in Diamond, Pearl, & Platinum; plus a Few extra additions like the region variants or branch evos
I actually had my own kalos starter megas thought up for fun and I went with evolving their DND traits, turning them from a basic Fighter/Mage/Rogue trio into a Paladin, a Sorcerer/Warlock/Whatever I can't remember the differences, and a Ninja Master, Chestnaught would be able to grow all kinds of paladin-y weapons like lances, hammers and big shields from each of its arms, Delphox would get a big long tree branch staff that doubles as a witches broom, and for Greninja I decided to be cheeky and tie the Ash Greninja form into its mega, even giving it lore in a pokedex entry detailing a legend that if a Greninja and its trainers bond is at its peak, they can achieve this form without the need of a mega stone
Legends: Arceus had Variants + Catchable Gen 4
Depending on how many Pokémon will be in Legends: Z-A, we might get 3 sets of Starters minimum!
XY featured Kalos’s trio, AND Kanto’s trio were Given as well.
If EVERY Mega is back, that might include Hoenn’s trio as well.
(Not including M Rayquaza, P Groudon, P Kyogre, M Latias or M Latios)
What this means *potentially*
Mixed Trio (“Legends”):
Snivy (Grass/Poison)
Scorbunny (Fire/Steel? /Electric? /Ground?)
Piplup (Water/Ice? Water/Flying?)
Kanto Trio (Obtainable)
Bulbasaur, Charmander, Squirtle
Hoenn Trio (Obtainable)
Treecko, Torchic, Mudkip
Kalos Trio (Obtainable)
Chespin, Fennekin, Froakie*
**Battle Bond Starters//Greninja ≠ “Mega” Kalos//Greninja???**
i think what they might do is give us new regional forms of the Kalos starters but also give us the mega evolution factor so your ideas might just be thrown in a combination of what could possibly happen
BDSP releasing close to Legends: Arceus being the reasoning for the alternate starters is why I think it's very possible we might get Kalos starters for Legends: ZA, but with mega evolutions this time. Glad to see someone else thinks the same! I love your mega designs, Chesnaught and Greninja have rather busy designs but you managed to make them work even with more details.
They wouldn’t have the main starters be the same ones from the original version of the game (x and y)
10:31 'Get that hairy frog outta here'😂
4:59 it's just an animation of the blueprints
It might be recent but probably not in the future
My subspition on legends za is that we will travel to the past or have cutseanes to the past and the future and get to have portals to those time periods, also it might influence the future
Your on the right track but the legends starters where selected from Pokémon starters that weren’t available on switch like rowlet there was no way of catching one at the time and cyndiquil was from a game with no origins nor remakes on the switch and same with oshawatt so remake the list without gen 1,4,8,9 and any other gen I forgot to mention
Revise: fire Water Grass
Torch Mud Triko
Pig. Toto. Snivy
Litten. Popli. Chikor
Did you do the art (and if not can you tell me who did?)
Lumiose Serperior and Cinderace look so cool!
that mega delphox design is absolutely tremendous and if anything like it is in Z-A I'm most definitely calling it Marisa
Istg I love the way you draw Pokemon
I believe Z-A is in the past, the reason it looks futuristic is because it looks like a blueprint, there might be a phone in 1800 pokemon because pokemon tech might be advanced
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My first Pokémon game was X and Y on my mom’s old DS, so I’m very exited!
I feel like the game will be set in the past, though I can see the Gen 6 starters getting Mega Evolutions. As for the main starters, I can see Serperior being Grass/Ghost with a ragged look compared to its Unovan counterpart, referencing deposed royalty with the French Revolution of 1812, Cinderace being Fire/Fighting with martial arts gear based on savate (French kickboxing), and Empoleon being Water/Psychic (this one is a stretch, but I'm stumped for what to have it based on, so suggestions are appreciated).
Or maybe like in original X & Y, you actually get two starters (one gen 6 & one gen 1)- so maybe you get two in this game as well, including the original Kalos starters now with megas?
i’ve been saying this a lot but i’m pretty confident we’ll get those starters or most of them as our first 3, and the kalosian starters right after with megas, like how in x and y we got starters then kanto starters with megas
I think the logo as well points to it being at least modern times but most likely in the future
I’m imagining Z-A is going to have us in both the past *and* future
My idea for an Alola Region Legends game is called Pokemon Legends Dimensional. It take place mainly in Akala Island with the labratory. Basically it takes place in the future, so after champions league. Where you go and stop Ultra Beasts. I dont have many predictions, but i feel like the starters could be, Grookey, Squirtle, Torchic. All kinda represent parts of the alola region. Grookey represents the grass and the music. Squirtle represents the Beaches around alola and the water in the fact that alola is made of 4 (5 if you count aether paradise) islands, and Torchic represents the Festivals inside of Alola.
That Cinderace looks sweet! That would be my pick
Glad to see someone else thinking Legends could just be heavily involving the title Legendary rather than being in the past. Those are some great designs for "evolving" Starters, my initial thought of having a Chaos Pokemon who can cause rapid evolution in Pokemon, the source not only of Mega Evolution but also the Paradox Pokemon. This gives reasoning for why we have 2 that look like thier Megas and an explanation for why the beasts have paradoxes, being altered to suit a harsh tropical environment awakened similar traits that Ho-oh did.
I want to put it out there. Is win they did a remake or one name Mina omega, ruby and alpha sapphire, and they gave the other two starters mega forms in that game. People were hoping that all starters forget, make up forms at some point, because the gimmick was kind of knew some people thought it would be something in the last for a few games. So I don’t think we should fully rule out old starter. I think it’s mega evolution is coming back, opens up the door for possibility for the other starters distill get mega forms so the sales center quail is not a possibility instead of getting new regional forms, they could actually beginning mega forms.
Where can I find the Pokemon medley playing in the background of this video?
Gen 6 allowed us to grt 2 stsrters, so maybe we can get both the Legends starters and XY starters too
Maybe instead of Kanto starters as the second starters we get Galar starters? I really honestly want Sobble…. Inteleon being the Secret Agent Pokemon and some James Bond movies were in France does hold some logic…
Cinderace is a skater boi.
see ya later boi.
10:05 I was sure you were going to propose regional variants for all 3 stages of the Kalos starters lol
Ok, so X/Y did a thing where you get your starter, then you get a second starter later from the Kanto starters who had a mega (or two if you're someone's favorite)
I'd love them to play it like you get your cool set of mixed up starters with a new final evo and then a second starter from Kalos with a new mega
I would personally love a revisit of feragulator. I loved him as a kid.
I agree about Scorebunny and Piplup, but I feel the Chikorita line is in far greater need of a regional variant than Snivy line. Snivy line can be saved for an eventual Legends Celebi.
Your options sound amazing!❤ But i think it would be cool if we would get a new form of Meganium or (like you said) serperior since we haven't seen them much in newer games, and i think they could give them cool mega evolution, especially Meganium🦕
THIS LOOKS AWESOME
I hope if one of my favourites are the starter, they don’t end up being disappointing or worse like my favourite starter of all time did in Hisui (Decidueye).
i really like this take but I feel like the colour schemes of the pokemon staying the same in Z-A isn't really sitting right with me, like how legends arceus starters basically revamped all the colours of the pokemon along with their design. i think having the same colour scheme makes feel more like a future paradox pokemon.
Even if we just get the Kalos Starters, it could be possible that other Starters like Snivy or Piplup are catchable/obtainable in-game similar to Sinnoh Starters in PLA.
Honestly I kinda hope they take a why not both approach. New starters with regional forms but no megas, but the Kalos starters and their megas can be obtained in the wild. I just love the new starters old region thing and hope they keep it even if it isn't neccecary
I think that the new starters will get new Forms and the og starters will get megas
What I want to see in Z-A is the battle chateau, maybe that would help with battling being more common.
I think the secondery typing is also going to be super efective against the second typing of the already weak one .
For example grass steel fire ground water ice
Alternatively, the Mixed/ *Legends* Trio COULD be as follows:
Bulbasaur *Battle Bond*
Torchic *Battle Bond*
Froakie *Battle Bond*
INSTEAD of “Megas” they’ll ALL be referred to as “Battle Bond” Forms, since that’s what LEADS to a strong connection to ACHIEVE a Mega Evolution-Strong *BONDS* between the Trainer and Pokémon while in *BATTLE* !
(Since Legends: Arceus didn’t have “Held Items”, Mega Stones might not even appear in Z-A…?)
I think since empoleon was based on daft punk, his blades should look more like disks