This gun is broken as F%^& in pvp. Get into any range where you can even think about landing most if thebpellets and you won't die from that you'll doe because your instantly frozen. There is no counter to this up close. None. This is why I have stayed out of pvp since the introduction of subclass 3.0. So much ganky op stuff being abused.
An additional note: Many of the triumphs associated with the raid give increased drop chance for the exotic just like in Duality and Spire, so it’s going to be much easier to get if you get the challenges done.
An important note for this exotic in pve that greatly elevates it. The freezing and igniting of enemies only cares for pellets landing, not whether if they damage or not, that means if you land shots on an immune target, like the guys from the raid, it will freeze or ignite them. Same works for phalanx shields, if you hit their shields with the shotgun it will freeze or ignite them no issue you don't need to get around them.
1:45 “side notes” like this is exactly why you’ll always be my favorite destiny content creator, you really pay attention to the game, the weapons and the craftsmanship behind it, awesome vid!
About that 5 pellet freeze clip - this could be latency messing with bullet magnetism. With high ping it happens quite a bit, and down here (hi from down under) it's quite obvious since sometimes crits will count as body shots, body shots will crit and outright misses will kill enemies.
This is why I watch cool guy, the man just tells you about the fun factor of each weapon. Other youtubers will just tell you it sucks because its not meta
@@st0nedpenguin yeah, it doesn't do 6 million DPS. Its not good. Just like collective obligation, u can blind, weaken, and volatile A WHOLE ARMY ENDLESSLY... but it doesnt do 6 million DPS so it sucks
@@NobleVI_343 some exotics dont synergize well with it, like the ones u mentioned. The other do. Like nezarec sin, synergizes with collective obligation. Most titan exotics work with it. Gyrf makes it so that u always have volatile so its not as useful. All in the playstyle buddy. I personally like to use different stuff to spice up the gameplay. Not concerned about cheesing everything because I want to have fun. Thats just me
So glad you brought up the "Tool" aspect of Conditional Finality. It's usefulness as just an elemental effect applicator alone is huge. I can't wait to get it for myself.
I love the little details of this gun, things like the visuals changing as you fire, or the crackle of the fire, or the pellet spread matching the dark or light. It really feels like a labor of love for this exotic.
Not doing raids. Being a solo player in Destiny is where I like it. I’m not into this game to hand hold or buddy up to randoms. Only reason why I’m even commenting is because youtube keeps suggesting this video. Nothing is worse than when you played endlessly for a weapon and Bungie eventually nerfs it. I’m off that roller coaster
I think going forward there should be more dual element exotics like this and Two Tailed. I feel there could be some crazy synergy between a Strand/Void fusion for example.
I wonder if resilience plays a role in triggering the freeze/ignition. That could mean a conditional trigger along the lines of, "10 pellets OR a percentage of combatant's total health triggers the aftereffect."
It can prock solar surge mod being a stasis weapon. Here's the deal: if you throw out your stasis shot, your damage type will change to solar. If you have no armor charge at this moment gaining this armor charge will apply weapon surge damage buff to this shotgun despite it's "kineticness". Buff aplies to both stasis and solar shots until armor charge goes away (that means 24/7). Same goes with solar scavengers. Picking up a special brick will load more ammo to reserves if you have 1 pellet in the magazine or have none. This is great mod sinergy no other gun has.
I just love that I can shoot, freeze, shatter if it’s enough damage, (if it’s not switch to energy weapon) fire solar whenever I need, and because it shatters it works with the stasis thing that makes the seeker things that freeze enemies
@Cobe friend I'm not a pvp player so I can't speak to that but in pvp it's a fucking powerhouse. 720s just feel good and with combos like Demo/pugilist + hatchling Reconstruction + frenzy/Target lock There's alot going on with it
@xBigxBrainxWarlockxMainx I'm crafting mine for sure, I really care much for adept weapons lolol but my personal groll is demo/threading or demo/Target lock
@@xxghostyxx219 same fam! There's so many great combinations to be had & with utility perks like demo/thresh in the first trait & great power perks like Target Lock & paracausal affinity to pair with it, this thing is a must craft. Really can't wait to Meme with Rewind Rounds & Target Lock on Actium Titan 😂
Got my drop tonight. Something I love is that the sound of the solar shot is similar to hitting hot metal on an anvil, and I personally do blacksmithing as a hobby.
lucked out and got this on my first clear for the day one, haven’t taken it off since then. it’s really good in pve, you can actually freeze barriers through their shield if your in point blank range and actually go into the shield when they put it up, in a sense you can deal with barriers too but it’s definitely.
Great weapon. Very unique. Very powerful. Very versatile. Some people (who are dummies) are pooping on this weapon because it doesn’t have the boss damage of Heritage or Merciless. Also, because depending on the GM you might not be able to use this. Those are just silly comments. It’s something that feels fresh that will be useful in 95% + of content. I love my Heritage and Witherhoard but it’ll feel good to have this as an option. It’s not like something like Commemoration isn’t the only thing you need to shoot at most enemies currently anyways so the other two slots are wide open.
Note that while it's in in the first slot and stasis on paper, the dmg type actually does change in the hud with the second shot. Compare this to TTF which stays counting as void as far as buffs are concerned, or Hardlight/borealis which switches fully. I'd be interested to see if running 2x stasis boost or 1x stasis and 1x solar would be better for dmg.
I got incredibly lucky and had it drop on my first clear... granted that was after struggling for 22 hours in contest mode just to not get the day one... I hate LFG. But the gun is super fun to use! I'm not really big on shotguns but I can definitely see it being a fantastic pick for GMs and master lost sectors.
Pretty cool that the reticle for stasis shot is triangle (pyramid) and for solar it's circular (traveler). Probably the best design gun in the game for me.
I never get lucky with raid exotic drop but rng definitely graced me this one. It's the most fun weapon in the game but a mile. I've been running nightfalls and lost sectors for no reason but to just use this weapon. I hope everyone gets it
The Iceflare aspect on Warlock is what will make this thing feel wild in PvP. getting a kill and having the Iceflares find another target is just insane. On Titan you’d be making Lances which is pretty cool
for everyone who is still trying to get this if you haven’t done any of the triumphs that increase drop chance DO THEM, I got 3 done in 1 run and right after that i got conditional. SO SERIOUSLY DO THE TRIUMPHS
Only just noticed this but the stasis spread being a triangle and solar being a circle is related to one supposedly coming from the pyramids and the other coming from the traveler and with whole raid being a combination of the 2 forces this makes complete sense
If they ever added a catalyst for this gun, I think Slideshot would be the perfect perk. It would allow you to choose which round you want to load into the shotgun. You want a stasis shot? Reload like normal. Want the Solar shot? Slide to reload the solar round. Extra range from Slideshot is also nice.
This gun hands down revitalized pvp for me. I'm legit the guy on the team that hears a super go off amd while others run away I run Towards it. Feels good to freeze Thundercats titan mid air, bask in the moment and then pop him and walk away.
Love this thing. Lucked up on LFG for a raid as an add clear and got it first run. As a solo player I couldn’t be happier 😅. Guys were great with the mechanics and I did my job. 😂
This gun, sixth coyote, strand hunter. This gun, Solar Bonk Titan with Char and Blistering. Warlock on Strand with necrotics, a glaive, the shotty and an LMG
The gun looks awesome. I think Bungie should change it so you can't ads. Instead, the ads button fires the solar round and normal fire shoots the stasis round. This way, you could fire the solar first if you wanted or fire both at the same time.
Got this thing Day 1, haven't taken it off. It really is very fun to play with. Pairs extremely well with stasis obviously, but you can really boost the damage up on solar with dawn chorus. Both play styles are very fun. Even if you're not synergizing, it's still very fun and powerful!
I did this raid for the first time last night, and I got it. It's my first raid exotic ever, and I got it on my first clear. I have never been so lucky in my life! This thing is awesome!
I was fortunate enough to get this thing in my first ever clear no triumphs done. RNG gonna RNG. Anyhow I have barely taken it off since then in most any content. It's nuts to use and is more powerful than IMO everyone has fully realized yet. Having a dual on demand freeze and ignite is honestly more than a little OP. It absolutely shreds mini bosses, unstop champs, even bosses. Being up close is less of an issue considering the opening shot will give you a freeze, hit the target again and the ignite and stagger will really help keep you from getting insta stomped. It's not a catch all weapon, nothing really is but the utility of it insanely high. IMO best raid exotic bungie has made in a long time.
I just got this last night after grinding Nez 3 times a week for the past month. Could not wait to take it for a test drive. I can confirm this thing f'n rips.
Interesting how perfectly the order works in PvP vs PvE as well. In PvE you always have ammo. The freeze is normally more useful so being able to load it first and re use it over and over is great but it also means that in PvP you can’t just keep freezing every one because you don’t normally have enough ammo to reload the first shot. Perfectly balanced.
I have a theroy for why some people are freezing at 4 pellets becauae im pretty sure its suppose to be around 9-10 pellets to freeze in the crucible. So we all know that most weapons are hitscan, especially shotguns, and there is no stacking penetration either. Meaning even if you u can get a collateral you still can't hit someones arm in front of there chest AND there chest for stacked damage. But I don't think debuffs on said hit follow this rule. So let's say a hunter tumbles forward at you and you shoot his arm that's infront of his chest, the pellets damage register only the arm, but the debuff goes through both the arm and the chest apply both stacks because hit scaning for damage and debuffing are spit from eachother. Edit: Also PVE enemy models tend to be way less bendy and have much bigger solid segments of body vs player models
A cool addition they could’ve put with this was you could change the damage type and put void and arc for another barrel kind of like hard light and suros regime combined
I literally just searched for "coolguy conditional finality", lol. This thing COOKS in PvP. Got a 14 kill streak at the end of a game, which I think was my highest ever.
I got it and was playing with it yesterday in pvp I’m a 2.0trials player and I think that it’s good enough range wise not the best of course but because of no quickcharge and it having that much handling it makes it worth it it has a lot of utility its FUN I think it’s a top 5 shotgun great weapon bungie was in the lab on this one
I wish with this weapon they put the ADS range as a hip fire, make it unable to ADS, and then the ADS button turns into solar and regular trigger for stasis.
First of all, the theme of this gun is awesome. The entire Raid is about light and dark, now this has a light and a dark aspect to it, even down to details like the reticles. Second, i don't quite know how to describe it, but it feels really punchy. You can really feel the impact of this gun.
I got it on my second run. The thing is a blast. One thing I did notice was that I was getting ember of tempering to trigger off the stasis shot shot Sometimes. It seems weird with when and how it procs
I’m thinking in PvP the pellet count for the shots to trigger freeze/ignition might be tied to the resilience of the guardian you shoot at. The effect might trigger with less pellets landing if the target has lower resilience.
I got that shotgun my first run on contest mode and thought it looked not only stupid with all the pink and purple but it was also a special weapon then I took it into a dungeon with my buddy and was clearing whole rooms with it. Thing is actually really good in pve but haven't tried in pvp yet
got lucky with this one. 3 of us got it when we completed contest mode. really great substitute for when you cant use witherhoard because starfire locks need hoard more.
I need this thing just for the fun factor if nothing else, the double element n everything is so funn cool, i hope we get a legendary double barreled sawed off one day too like you said tex mechanica would be fitting
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This one is awesome and I hope you get it soon !
On the topic of shotguns will u be looking at imperial decree it's pretty nasty
This gun is broken as F%^& in pvp. Get into any range where you can even think about landing most if thebpellets and you won't die from that you'll doe because your instantly frozen. There is no counter to this up close. None. This is why I have stayed out of pvp since the introduction of subclass 3.0. So much ganky op stuff being abused.
Bungie looking at Doom's iconic Shotgun and said, "......Fuck it, I want one of those too" lol
@@joemama9457 I am, 3 red borders now. Soon.
@@CoolGuyGames I am interested in why we matched one another when you are in the US and I am in the EU. Is this to do with matchmaking being bugged?
Stasis, a darkness power, shoots out a Pyramid
Solar, a light power, shoots out a Circle
Byf is gonna go nuts
Wow never thought bout that
Resonance you mean?
@@ricardotolbert1797 no, resonance is its own separate darkness attribute from what we know
wdym Byf will go nuts, anyone with a working brain will realize "oh triangle like the pyramids and circle like the traveler"
i was thinking that too.
An additional note: Many of the triumphs associated with the raid give increased drop chance for the exotic just like in Duality and Spire, so it’s going to be much easier to get if you get the challenges done.
U are confusing raids with dungeons! Raids don't have that!
@@shiraz91this one does, that's exactly why he's saying this
@@lobinhofofo7094 didn't know that! Ty
@@shiraz91 no you're wrong
@@shiraz91 Go to triumphs for Root of Nightmares. They changed it for this raid for the first time in the game.
Pretty sure that Coolguy has had the raid exotic to drop on the first day for the past 4 raids
Last 5 actually. Wild boy
Coolguy’s luck with raid drops is like Pete Davidson’s with women
blessed by Bungie
Bungie def weights the odds for reviewers, except datto of course they love torturing him
Must be GameShark
An important note for this exotic in pve that greatly elevates it. The freezing and igniting of enemies only cares for pellets landing, not whether if they damage or not, that means if you land shots on an immune target, like the guys from the raid, it will freeze or ignite them. Same works for phalanx shields, if you hit their shields with the shotgun it will freeze or ignite them no issue you don't need to get around them.
1:45 “side notes” like this is exactly why you’ll always be my favorite destiny content creator, you really pay attention to the game, the weapons and the craftsmanship behind it, awesome vid!
I’ve always wanted a double-barrel shotgun in Destiny. Hoping to get this thing to drop, it looks extremely fun.
Duality 7 years ago
As someone who got it to drop the first run after contest mode… it’s verrryyy fun
@@jackturner3867duality has the sick reload but it's no double barrel
I love that attention to detail in the shot spread. Triangle for stasis and pyramid ships, circle for solar and the Traveler.
The reload animation has so much style/attitude, can’t wait to get it
It's the same reload animation as duality.
Looked like the forerunner weapons from halo 4 😎
borderlands vibes.
About that 5 pellet freeze clip - this could be latency messing with bullet magnetism. With high ping it happens quite a bit, and down here (hi from down under) it's quite obvious since sometimes crits will count as body shots, body shots will crit and outright misses will kill enemies.
This is why I watch cool guy, the man just tells you about the fun factor of each weapon. Other youtubers will just tell you it sucks because its not meta
Weird, I've seen every content creator say it was fun but not very good.
He also doesn't drag out the video length by weaving in cringe reddit humor into every fourth word.
@@st0nedpenguin yeah, it doesn't do 6 million DPS. Its not good. Just like collective obligation, u can blind, weaken, and volatile A WHOLE ARMY ENDLESSLY... but it doesnt do 6 million DPS so it sucks
@@mrxerxes7947 what is the purpose of any of that if I'm a starlock? a Gyrf? It just aint shiny enough for me to care.
@@NobleVI_343 some exotics dont synergize well with it, like the ones u mentioned. The other do. Like nezarec sin, synergizes with collective obligation. Most titan exotics work with it. Gyrf makes it so that u always have volatile so its not as useful. All in the playstyle buddy. I personally like to use different stuff to spice up the gameplay. Not concerned about cheesing everything because I want to have fun. Thats just me
So glad you brought up the "Tool" aspect of Conditional Finality. It's usefulness as just an elemental effect applicator alone is huge. I can't wait to get it for myself.
Frozen targets take more than double melee damage and it's what I'm looking most forward to.
I love the little details of this gun, things like the visuals changing as you fire, or the crackle of the fire, or the pellet spread matching the dark or light. It really feels like a labor of love for this exotic.
I love how this also leads to potential dual element weapons, also a solar in primary slot without osmosis
Its crazy how an exotic this simple can be this awesome, i cannot wait to get it myself its just so cool
Not doing raids. Being a solo player in Destiny is where I like it. I’m not into this game to hand hold or buddy up to randoms. Only reason why I’m even commenting is because youtube keeps suggesting this video.
Nothing is worse than when you played endlessly for a weapon and Bungie eventually nerfs it. I’m off that roller coaster
I think going forward there should be more dual element exotics like this and Two Tailed. I feel there could be some crazy synergy between a Strand/Void fusion for example.
would be a good place to make the colony that weapon, already has a threadling thing going for it
You’re a prophet lol
I wonder if resilience plays a role in triggering the freeze/ignition. That could mean a conditional trigger along the lines of, "10 pellets OR a percentage of combatant's total health triggers the aftereffect."
bro cracked the code holy fck
It can prock solar surge mod being a stasis weapon. Here's the deal: if you throw out your stasis shot, your damage type will change to solar. If you have no armor charge at this moment gaining this armor charge will apply weapon surge damage buff to this shotgun despite it's "kineticness". Buff aplies to both stasis and solar shots until armor charge goes away (that means 24/7). Same goes with solar scavengers. Picking up a special brick will load more ammo to reserves if you have 1 pellet in the magazine or have none. This is great mod sinergy no other gun has.
I just love that I can shoot, freeze, shatter if it’s enough damage, (if it’s not switch to energy weapon) fire solar whenever I need, and because it shatters it works with the stasis thing that makes the seeker things that freeze enemies
Can't wait for coolguys video on rufus's fury. Literally my favorite "kinetic" auto rifle in the game
Is it easy to hit headshots with?
@Cobe friend I'm not a pvp player so I can't speak to that but in pvp it's a fucking powerhouse. 720s just feel good and with combos like
Demo/pugilist + hatchling
Reconstruction + frenzy/Target lock
There's alot going on with it
Certainly looking forward to the Adept roll on this thing. This with Battle Harmony is going to be fun on StrandLock
@xBigxBrainxWarlockxMainx I'm crafting mine for sure, I really care much for adept weapons lolol but my personal groll is demo/threading or demo/Target lock
@@xxghostyxx219 same fam! There's so many great combinations to be had & with utility perks like demo/thresh in the first trait & great power perks like Target Lock & paracausal affinity to pair with it, this thing is a must craft.
Really can't wait to Meme with Rewind Rounds & Target Lock on Actium Titan 😂
Love the analysis mate. It's less about meta and more about fun everytime.
"is it meta? nah, not that". aged like milk 💀
Got my drop tonight. Something I love is that the sound of the solar shot is similar to hitting hot metal on an anvil, and I personally do blacksmithing as a hobby.
“Hopefully we see this as tex mechanica”
INSTEAD WE GET A FUCKING OMOLON ORNAMENT LOL
I wonder if the freeze could be related to guardian resilience stat so if you have more resilience the harder it is to freeze you with this shotgun?
Doubt it
lucked out and got this on my first clear for the day one, haven’t taken it off since then. it’s really good in pve, you can actually freeze barriers through their shield if your in point blank range and actually go into the shield when they put it up, in a sense you can deal with barriers too but it’s definitely.
Lets also not ignore that it lets you run an energy weapon in the Kinetic slot
Great weapon. Very unique. Very powerful. Very versatile.
Some people (who are dummies) are pooping on this weapon because it doesn’t have the boss damage of Heritage or Merciless. Also, because depending on the GM you might not be able to use this. Those are just silly comments.
It’s something that feels fresh that will be useful in 95% + of content. I love my Heritage and Witherhoard but it’ll feel good to have this as an option. It’s not like something like Commemoration isn’t the only thing you need to shoot at most enemies currently anyways so the other two slots are wide open.
Note that while it's in in the first slot and stasis on paper, the dmg type actually does change in the hud with the second shot. Compare this to TTF which stays counting as void as far as buffs are concerned, or Hardlight/borealis which switches fully. I'd be interested to see if running 2x stasis boost or 1x stasis and 1x solar would be better for dmg.
I got incredibly lucky and had it drop on my first clear... granted that was after struggling for 22 hours in contest mode just to not get the day one... I hate LFG.
But the gun is super fun to use! I'm not really big on shotguns but I can definitely see it being a fantastic pick for GMs and master lost sectors.
I just got it today too congrats I gonna have a lot of fun with this thing
Pretty cool that the reticle for stasis shot is triangle (pyramid) and for solar it's circular (traveler). Probably the best design gun in the game for me.
Thanks bot comment.
It's name isn't Conditional Finality, anymore.... it's the Shoto-gun
Yes, a two tailed fox shotgun. Moving on.
I never get lucky with raid exotic drop but rng definitely graced me this one. It's the most fun weapon in the game but a mile. I've been running nightfalls and lost sectors for no reason but to just use this weapon. I hope everyone gets it
The Iceflare aspect on Warlock is what will make this thing feel wild in PvP. getting a kill and having the Iceflares find another target is just insane. On Titan you’d be making Lances which is pretty cool
for everyone who is still trying to get this if you haven’t done any of the triumphs that increase drop chance DO THEM, I got 3 done in 1 run and right after that i got conditional. SO SERIOUSLY DO THE TRIUMPHS
Got mine this Sunday it SO fun, is now my go to for pve and PvP now
Your reviews on weapons are so insightful and in-depth I thoroughly enjoy watching and learning! Keep up the great work CoolGuy!
Only just noticed this but the stasis spread being a triangle and solar being a circle is related to one supposedly coming from the pyramids and the other coming from the traveler and with whole raid being a combination of the 2 forces this makes complete sense
This gun has more detail than the Lightfall campaign.
Hopefully this gets an ornament that changes the Barrell design. Not a fan of square barrels.
2:05 Another entry in "Destiny 2 noises that help you fall asleep"
I wish there was a way to change the order of the barrels. Maybe it's just me but it'd be nice to shoot the solar barrel first
imagine this bad boy if bungie ever brings back an orb equivalent of explosive wellmaker
I don't know if you realized, but the diffrent pellet patterns are for the darkness and the light respectively.
This is the perfect exotic for this raid, a dark and light weapon for the raid all about utilizing both light and dark
CoolGuy first person to ever show off how good a weapon is in actually meaningful content
If they ever added a catalyst for this gun, I think Slideshot would be the perfect perk. It would allow you to choose which round you want to load into the shotgun. You want a stasis shot? Reload like normal. Want the Solar shot? Slide to reload the solar round. Extra range from Slideshot is also nice.
This gun hands down revitalized pvp for me. I'm legit the guy on the team that hears a super go off amd while others run away I run Towards it. Feels good to freeze Thundercats titan mid air, bask in the moment and then pop him and walk away.
Just got it today.
Lots of fun. Making builds around it and going nuts with it in Terminal Overload :D
Another thing when there is an anti barrier you can go inside their bubble and take the barrier down and you don’t need an ant barrier mod on you
I leveled up my hunter today and cleared the campaign; jumped into a Nezarec checkpoint and got the drop. It’s absolutely amazing in PvE.
Love this thing. Lucked up on LFG for a raid as an add clear and got it first run. As a solo player I couldn’t be happier 😅. Guys were great with the mechanics and I did my job. 😂
The superior Tigris Prime
Got it on my Contest run, it's crazy glued to my kinetic slot and i can't stop using it. Totally using it im GMs
I still haven't gotten the last few raid exotics so I was very surprised to get this my 2nd run. Excited to really use it after seeing this
This shotgun and strand is gonna make lost sectors and nightfalls so much better
“Duality reload” bro that is the super shotgun reload from Doom. Been waiting for this for 10 years lol
This gun makes me want to play the game again
Maybe guardian resistance stats determine number of hits required for the effect? Lower resistance easier for effect to activate.
This gun, sixth coyote, strand hunter.
This gun, Solar Bonk Titan with Char and Blistering.
Warlock on Strand with necrotics, a glaive, the shotty and an LMG
The gun looks awesome. I think Bungie should change it so you can't ads. Instead, the ads button fires the solar round and normal fire shoots the stasis round. This way, you could fire the solar first if you wanted or fire both at the same time.
got it on my first and only run, its pretty neat !
Just got mine last night in my first RON. Haven’t played with it yet since it was late but the videos keep getting me excited to use it
Got this thing Day 1, haven't taken it off. It really is very fun to play with. Pairs extremely well with stasis obviously, but you can really boost the damage up on solar with dawn chorus. Both play styles are very fun. Even if you're not synergizing, it's still very fun and powerful!
How would Dawn Chorus help this? It only boosts scorch damage. And the only way for this gun to apply that is with a fragment.
i had a moment in trials where i got an ignition with 3 pellets landing, 5 damage in total from the pellets
I did this raid for the first time last night, and I got it. It's my first raid exotic ever, and I got it on my first clear. I have never been so lucky in my life! This thing is awesome!
I was fortunate enough to get this thing in my first ever clear no triumphs done. RNG gonna RNG. Anyhow I have barely taken it off since then in most any content. It's nuts to use and is more powerful than IMO everyone has fully realized yet. Having a dual on demand freeze and ignite is honestly more than a little OP. It absolutely shreds mini bosses, unstop champs, even bosses. Being up close is less of an issue considering the opening shot will give you a freeze, hit the target again and the ignite and stagger will really help keep you from getting insta stomped. It's not a catch all weapon, nothing really is but the utility of it insanely high. IMO best raid exotic bungie has made in a long time.
I just got this last night after grinding Nez 3 times a week for the past month. Could not wait to take it for a test drive. I can confirm this thing f'n rips.
Interesting how perfectly the order works in PvP vs PvE as well. In PvE you always have ammo. The freeze is normally more useful so being able to load it first and re use it over and over is great but it also means that in PvP you can’t just keep freezing every one because you don’t normally have enough ammo to reload the first shot. Perfectly balanced.
Those poor bubble titans are about to feel pain like they’ve never felt before
can't wait to get this gun for my frost pulse warlock build. so awesome!
I have a theroy for why some people are freezing at 4 pellets becauae im pretty sure its suppose to be around 9-10 pellets to freeze in the crucible.
So we all know that most weapons are hitscan, especially shotguns, and there is no stacking penetration either. Meaning even if you u can get a collateral you still can't hit someones arm in front of there chest AND there chest for stacked damage. But I don't think debuffs on said hit follow this rule.
So let's say a hunter tumbles forward at you and you shoot his arm that's infront of his chest, the pellets damage register only the arm, but the debuff goes through both the arm and the chest apply both stacks because hit scaning for damage and debuffing are spit from eachother.
Edit: Also PVE enemy models tend to be way less bendy and have much bigger solid segments of body vs player models
A cool addition they could’ve put with this was you could change the damage type and put void and arc for another barrel kind of like hard light and suros regime combined
I literally just searched for "coolguy conditional finality", lol.
This thing COOKS in PvP. Got a 14 kill streak at the end of a game, which I think was my highest ever.
I got it and was playing with it yesterday in pvp I’m a 2.0trials player and I think that it’s good enough range wise not the best of course but because of no quickcharge and it having that much handling it makes it worth it it has a lot of utility its FUN I think it’s a top 5 shotgun great weapon bungie was in the lab on this one
I'm just happy it's a double barrel break-action shotgun. It's so visually pleasing, it gives Chaperone a run for its money.
I wish with this weapon they put the ADS range as a hip fire, make it unable to ADS, and then the ADS button turns into solar and regular trigger for stasis.
First of all, the theme of this gun is awesome. The entire Raid is about light and dark, now this has a light and a dark aspect to it, even down to details like the reticles. Second, i don't quite know how to describe it, but it feels really punchy. You can really feel the impact of this gun.
Imagine the MW being chill clip and incandescent.
Managed to pull it on my first clear on contest mode, definitely needed that after still not getting touch after 40+ clears lol
Congrats just got it today on my second run
I got it on my second run. The thing is a blast. One thing I did notice was that I was getting ember of tempering to trigger off the stasis shot shot Sometimes. It seems weird with when and how it procs
Finally got a raid exotic on my first go :D
Hell yeah! Great seeing someone else loving it!
I still can’t believe I dropped it on my contest clear
There should be a catalyst that alternates between both Solar and Stasis shots in whatever order is shot.
I’m thinking in PvP the pellet count for the shots to trigger freeze/ignition might be tied to the resilience of the guardian you shoot at. The effect might trigger with less pellets landing if the target has lower resilience.
This thing is everything I want from an exotic. Definitely gonna be my most hype raid drop when I get it :)
I absolutely love this shotgun. So fun and useful!
Plot twist, that ghost 5 rounds is from the catalyst and it gives us a shot for every damage type
I got that shotgun my first run on contest mode and thought it looked not only stupid with all the pink and purple but it was also a special weapon then I took it into a dungeon with my buddy and was clearing whole rooms with it. Thing is actually really good in pve but haven't tried in pvp yet
got lucky with this one. 3 of us got it when we completed contest mode. really great substitute for when you cant use witherhoard because starfire locks need hoard more.
It is absolutelymeta.
so do i use solar or stasis armor mods for this gun?
Well... This is going to be a nightmare in Trials Friday.
very cool it represents the light and the dark with its spread to
I wonder if it is certain pellets that apply freeze and ignites
I need this thing just for the fun factor if nothing else, the double element n everything is so funn cool, i hope we get a legendary double barreled sawed off one day too like you said tex mechanica would be fitting
I have the feeling that the 5 shots in the stats was meant to be the 5 elements. a five buck shotgun that uses each of the verbs to do it's damage.
I think I ran into you while grinding my witherhoard caty yesterday