Always loved the 8th doctors TARDIS as it had the concrete look to it just like what a real police box was made of. You done a nice job tidying and painting this model :)
So I actually make up a type of liquid filler mix to use on some 3d prints (depending on the print). I basically squirt some 5 minute epoxy into a plastic shot glass and mix in isopropyl alcohol until it's a more watery consistency and then paint it on. It may need more than one cot as PLA prints aren't water proof so the first thing it does is seal it. It then leaves you with a resin shell that's easier to sand and paint as the paint doesn't just sink into the plastic.
Funny you say that, something similar to this was what I had in mind, but when I reached for the IPA, I realised that I only had a drop left... which was a bugger. The long way round it was then!
Definitely an interesting video for me as I gingerly step into the world of 3d printing. I've looked at various methods for "smoothing" the prints ready for painting but they are all quite time consuming. I think I shall print my console as a proof of concept/prototype and once I'm happy I'll get it resin printed. Brilliant video, really enjoyed it.
There's all manner of ways to smooth these kinds of prints out, but in general, whichever way you chose, it's not going to be quick. It's probably better that you do as you suggest and print up a test "proof of concept" first, then get your main one done in resin - it'll be a lot nicer. Best of luck with your project, I'm sure it'll be great - and thanks for watching, as always!
Phil, thank you so much for taking part - it really made a difference to the production because I was struggling with how I could present yet another video on the same topic, having you on board helped me find that new angle. Here's to the next collab between us... whatever that may be.
Terrific video, really interesting to see how much work you had to do to get the kit to come together, hopefully it's one of those things that will improve with time, and as the technology impoves. I had a lot of similar problems with a 3D Hartnell box that I got from ebay (you get what yoy pay for), the windows were an absolute nightmare, and the walls needed a lot of filling where the print was wonky. Happily your texturing and weathering techniques jelped to disguise any glaring problems when it was finished!
I think it's all a balancing act with calibrating the printer... Well, I say "I think" - actually, I know it is. The good thing about TARDISes is that they have the texturing and that hides a lot of crimes, as my dear old Dad used to say. Thanks for watching, I'm really glad that you liked it.
My first few 3d kits were filament based... Now for smaller things I insist on resin, there's just too much work involved otherwise.. Great to see Mr Segal on here too, what a lovely chap he is.
Great work, as always! Your reaction to 'lenticular' surfaced objects is the same as mine to foam rubber, and, as I've mentioned before, the sound of wire brush vs. expanded polystyrene. Great to see Philip Segal, too. I'm going to have a look at his channel ASAP. And I'll let him know you sent me. 👍
Thanks for watching, as always - and yeah, this is the one thing that I simply cannot stand. Regarding Phil, I think you'll like his stuff, I certainly do!
Yeah, I knew I was going to have some work to do - but not that much, though I had a fairly good idea on the outset. It's done now, so hopefully the sanding and filing nightmares will stop.
Several weeks on adjusting it to put it together. Definitely worth it though, looks as spectacular as usual good sir. There I was thinking this would be one for your own collection...then you mentioned the client. Hope you have one for yourself some day.
Maybe one day, but after making so many for other people, I tend to get a little bored by doing the same thing over and over again. You never know, I may do one for myself. Just not yet.
Another great video explaining an area of modelling that I am also interested in getting into. Definitely eying off a few different resin printers as the resolution is really getting better and better. Some of the prints I have bought of Etsy and eBay are superb. Thanks again for a really good video that has helped add a great deal of new information into my modelling brain! And awesome guest spot from Phillip Segal...great to see the man who brought us the TV movie is a fellow modeler!
Well I'm really happy that you've found it useful and given you food for thought. I too have been eying up printers, but I've been holding off for nearly two decades. They're at a point now where I'm happy with the resolution, so when I can afford it (and have the space) I'll take the plunge. I've always said that I need another me to help out and short of cloning, this is the next best thing. Also it was great to have Phil take part. I find his section rather amusing and quite touching. A big thanks to him for playing!
I'd love to get a Tardis print I get the physics of it needs to be made to work, resin is best I find if more expensive Your work is professional and awesome the knowledge to fit the parts and get a lot out of it Learned a lot here Mr segal been watching him and his ET ship build
Every day i always find something new ive never seen before on your channe pb i love it. Always a good interesting watch and i learn a hell of a lot and its fun too. Also i had a thought where you could take the frame, base and doors if this kit and possibly incorporate into a larger console room model the only bug bear would be the awkward doors but im sure skilled propmen like you would be able to use your magic and find a way to combat that.
Excellent work on the whole kit, you really made it shine. Your breakdown of how you modified and prepared the pieces was very informative for those looking to work with 3D prints. When it comes to the tolerance issues you had, the unfortunate thing is that most free design programs don't allow you to test for clearance. So without that testing option you end up with the tight fitting pieces. Having them warp on you is a whole other problem that gives you to many headaches. Either way, I am glad to see that you follow Phil's channel as well (I can't wait to see him finish the Titanic) and I look forward to your next upload.
The whole point of the video was just to demonstrate that these kind of things happen because many have been caught out before - it's simply part and parcel of model making. But thanks for watching.
It was actually planned that each TARDIS would be an accurate representation, but then finances came into play and they used the accurate design for the 1980's TARDIS and modified it for everything else. Shame, but it's better than having no TARDISes at all, I guess.
Another great build chap, was thinking of doing a scratch build or mod on a CO box ,managed to get a 5th Dr visitation one at a reasonable price but am disinclined to mod it as it looks pretty good as is , may custom it at sometime in the near, but in the meantime will start accumalating some styrene to attempt a scratch build , have done a couple of modded comet daleks over the lockdown that came out pretty well .
I've been designing a 9/10th tardis because of this video and pretty much ended up with the same design just with the 10th tardis dimensions, I also scaled it down to a 1/19 scale because I'm impatient and I have a pretty decent printer that can get some small details, but it still gonna take over a day of printing for me to finish all the parts, especially with ironing to help with the sanding, but hopefully in a few days I'll be looking back on this video and the painting and weathering video to finish it
12:20 With my personal (admittedly highly limited and even more amateurish) experience with creating and printing 3D models, the extra dimensions probably come from the printing. Can't be sure, but it seems that that's the base, and the first layer (printed onto a platform) is usually done slightly differently to the higher levels (printed onto the plastic), and so that sort of anomaly is unsurprising to me. So, I would give the CG-modeller the benefit of the doubt here (I think that sort of mistake is really quite unlikely when doing that sort of thing). In fact, checking again, you can see that the edge goes inwards after a layer or so of plastic. 14:10 Oh (I ought to watch videos fully before beginning to type, shouldn't I?), and I think that bowing is probably also in part because the outer edges, like the base layer, are handled differently to the main surface parts. The pronounced problems at the corner posts are also probably because the nozzle motion mechanism can have notable difficulty at corners. You're certainly right about 3D printing not being any sort of panacea...The sheer number of discarded tests you can get when preparing the CG model is outrageous. (I often say that 3D printing adds a whole extra dimension of difficulty to normal printing.) Anyway, the result of the model from the 3D print is genuinely staggering, and I think the tips and information you've given will be very useful for me (as someone planning a number of my own similar 3D printed models, at an early stage), and so thank you. A very inspiring and informative channel generally. I'll certainly take a look at Segal's channel, and what a (pleasantly) surprising cameo!
As I've said elsewhere, the whole point of this video was simply to highlight the ups and downs of using this technology, just as I highlight the ups and downs of scratch building or any other type of fabrication. Creation is not easy and for those who go in to it thinking it is, I just wanted to highlight the reality. Thanks for watching!
I don't mind sanding in general at all, it's just lenticular stuff and even then, while the sound is painful, it's the feeling that really gets to me though. Thanks for the suggestion!
I know he is just a man like the rest of us, buy the hero worship side of me can't believe that Philip Segal has a RUclips hobby channel. Aleays hoped to meet him knew day at one of the numerous conventions I've attended but never seem to have had the chance. 😢
I see your point, but I don't see him as a celebrity - though there are celebrities out there who have dabbled in creating RUclips content, Brie Larson and Will Smith spring to mind. It seems a bit odd, almost like they're trying to reach out to their audience and fanbase, though I have to admit that I'm slightly cynical of this and suspect that there may actually be ulterior motives... Promotion of themselves and their brand being one such idea. I do not believe for one moment that their presence here is to connect with their fans. Phil on the other hand has a genuine interest in his model making and wants to share his journey with other like minded people, so you have to respect him for that. I know that I certainly do!
What we make these models from is largely irrelevant to the end product, it's how you make and finish them. I've made models in the past from all manner of "junk" - including cereal packets, scrap card and old lids from things, but with the end result, you couldn't tell, so I'm not surprised that your popsicle sticks build turned out nice.
The skills come with practise. I'd suggest just having a go and take it from there. You don't need a printer for something like this - it's just a box with details.
Thanks for the sub - you obviously have great taste. As for your skill set, well, these develop over time, just give it a chance... it's the only way it can grow.
So I decided.. I like doctor who... I like the TARDIS and then thought why not make one with a model kit... Holy hell sanding down the doors and walls has given me bach ache
I hear you. Growing up in the 1970's and 1980's, it was everywhere - on rulers, lunch boxes, place mats and cups. What a nightmare. I try to avoid it as much as possible!
Always loved the 8th doctors TARDIS as it had the concrete look to it just like what a real police box was made of. You done a nice job tidying and painting this model :)
Cheers, glad you liked it - thanks for watching.
this came at the perfect time for me as i literaly just finished printing the parts our for a first doctor box yesterday
Excellent, I hope the video proves useful for you and best of luck with your project!
Why the hell is this so therapeutic to watch???
It's so much fun to just sit and watch these things
I'm really glad that you enjoyed this one. Thanks for watching!
Your work never ceases to amaze me, honestly, all the models and restoration work I've seen you do is amazing!
That's very kind of you to say, thank you. Feel free to spread the word and share the videos!
28:55 Best part of the entire video... 'tighter than a ducks arse under water'
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
So I actually make up a type of liquid filler mix to use on some 3d prints (depending on the print). I basically squirt some 5 minute epoxy into a plastic shot glass and mix in isopropyl alcohol until it's a more watery consistency and then paint it on. It may need more than one cot as PLA prints aren't water proof so the first thing it does is seal it. It then leaves you with a resin shell that's easier to sand and paint as the paint doesn't just sink into the plastic.
Funny you say that, something similar to this was what I had in mind, but when I reached for the IPA, I realised that I only had a drop left... which was a bugger. The long way round it was then!
Definitely an interesting video for me as I gingerly step into the world of 3d printing.
I've looked at various methods for "smoothing" the prints ready for painting but they are all quite time consuming. I think I shall print my console as a proof of concept/prototype and once I'm happy I'll get it resin printed.
Brilliant video, really enjoyed it.
There's all manner of ways to smooth these kinds of prints out, but in general, whichever way you chose, it's not going to be quick. It's probably better that you do as you suggest and print up a test "proof of concept" first, then get your main one done in resin - it'll be a lot nicer.
Best of luck with your project, I'm sure it'll be great - and thanks for watching, as always!
A real joy to watch the craftsmanship! Bravo! I am not only a like and subscribe guy, I’m a fan!
Phil, thank you so much for taking part - it really made a difference to the production because I was struggling with how I could present yet another video on the same topic, having you on board helped me find that new angle.
Here's to the next collab between us... whatever that may be.
When he said segal i yelped in shock!
Holy crap! I've been watching his modelling channel for years and had no idea who he was!!
Great build to watch, and very well produced/edited together! 👍
Thank you very much, really glad that you enjoyed watching it!
Terrific video, really interesting to see how much work you had to do to get the kit to come together, hopefully it's one of those things that will improve with time, and as the technology impoves.
I had a lot of similar problems with a 3D Hartnell box that I got from ebay (you get what yoy pay for), the windows were an absolute nightmare, and the walls needed a lot of filling where the print was wonky. Happily your texturing and weathering techniques jelped to disguise any glaring problems when it was finished!
I think it's all a balancing act with calibrating the printer... Well, I say "I think" - actually, I know it is. The good thing about TARDISes is that they have the texturing and that hides a lot of crimes, as my dear old Dad used to say. Thanks for watching, I'm really glad that you liked it.
My first few 3d kits were filament based... Now for smaller things I insist on resin, there's just too much work involved otherwise..
Great to see Mr Segal on here too, what a lovely chap he is.
For me, filament is for substrate work and resin is for the finer details. That's how I've always seen it.
The end result does look good ...and the eighth Doctor looks ready to rock..
Cheers chum!
Great work, as always! Your reaction to 'lenticular' surfaced objects is the same as mine to foam rubber, and, as I've mentioned before, the sound of wire brush vs. expanded polystyrene. Great to see Philip Segal, too. I'm going to have a look at his channel ASAP. And I'll let him know you sent me. 👍
Thanks for watching, as always - and yeah, this is the one thing that I simply cannot stand. Regarding Phil, I think you'll like his stuff, I certainly do!
"I'm hoping my time on this is really gonna be quite limited."
Me: Sees the total time of the video.
Also me: Honey, you got a big storm coming.
Yeah, I knew I was going to have some work to do - but not that much, though I had a fairly good idea on the outset. It's done now, so hopefully the sanding and filing nightmares will stop.
Several weeks on adjusting it to put it together. Definitely worth it though, looks as spectacular as usual good sir. There I was thinking this would be one for your own collection...then you mentioned the client. Hope you have one for yourself some day.
Maybe one day, but after making so many for other people, I tend to get a little bored by doing the same thing over and over again. You never know, I may do one for myself. Just not yet.
Wow! Didn't quite expect it to look so awesome on completion.
Me neither, but thank you.
Another great video explaining an area of modelling that I am also interested in getting into. Definitely eying off a few different resin printers as the resolution is really getting better and better. Some of the prints I have bought of Etsy and eBay are superb. Thanks again for a really good video that has helped add a great deal of new information into my modelling brain!
And awesome guest spot from Phillip Segal...great to see the man who brought us the TV movie is a fellow modeler!
Well I'm really happy that you've found it useful and given you food for thought. I too have been eying up printers, but I've been holding off for nearly two decades. They're at a point now where I'm happy with the resolution, so when I can afford it (and have the space) I'll take the plunge. I've always said that I need another me to help out and short of cloning, this is the next best thing.
Also it was great to have Phil take part. I find his section rather amusing and quite touching. A big thanks to him for playing!
I'd love to get a Tardis print I get the physics of it needs to be made to work, resin is best I find if more expensive
Your work is professional and awesome the knowledge to fit the parts and get a lot out of it
Learned a lot here
Mr segal been watching him and his ET ship build
Glad that you learnt something, thanks.
Every day i always find something new ive never seen before on your channe pb i love it. Always a good interesting watch and i learn a hell of a lot and its fun too.
Also i had a thought where you could take the frame, base and doors if this kit and possibly incorporate into a larger console room model the only bug bear would be the awkward doors but im sure skilled propmen like you would be able to use your magic and find a way to combat that.
I'm really happy that you're finding the content entertaining, so thanks for sticking with it. I appreciate it.
Excellent work on the whole kit, you really made it shine. Your breakdown of how you modified and prepared the pieces was very informative for those looking to work with 3D prints.
When it comes to the tolerance issues you had, the unfortunate thing is that most free design programs don't allow you to test for clearance.
So without that testing option you end up with the tight fitting pieces. Having them warp on you is a whole other problem that gives you to many headaches.
Either way, I am glad to see that you follow Phil's channel as well (I can't wait to see him finish the Titanic) and I look forward to your next upload.
The whole point of the video was just to demonstrate that these kind of things happen because many have been caught out before - it's simply part and parcel of model making. But thanks for watching.
I’ll say this, I’d love for this to be a CO set one day with this actual accurate design
It was actually planned that each TARDIS would be an accurate representation, but then finances came into play and they used the accurate design for the 1980's TARDIS and modified it for everything else. Shame, but it's better than having no TARDISes at all, I guess.
@@PBProps true. I’m just hoping we get another first Doctor tardis set soon. The old one is quite rare and quite expensive on eBay
Great Build. Love the music!
Thanks!
ITS PHILLIP SEGAL OH MY GODDDD
In deed, nice to have him on board, eh?
@@PBProps literally had already just subscribed to his RUclips before this vid
Thanks, I appreciate that. Good man, you have excellent taste. Clearly!
Love watching your builds. Keep thinking about buying a printed tardis kit, but still not sure.
Well thanks for watching - and as for the kit, take the plunge - you're not going to lose much!
@@PBProps it's all the sanding I don't fancy.
@@markbelsom3174 Well, to get what you want, sometimes you have to go through things that you don't like. That's life, unfortunately!
Fantastic Anthony. Amazing attention to detail. But remind me to never show you my 3D prints 🤣
Cheers, I'm sure your prints are fine.
Nice shout out from PS!
Yup, we've been chatty for a while now.
@@PBProps Sometimes it’s crazy how things come full circle.
I SLA printing for my model consoles and laser cutting for my police boxes. I don’t use FDM much anymore but it still has its advantages.
Good man, I'd do it that way too - as I said at the end - in a round about way.
@@PBProps fantastic build of yours as always! Can’t wait to see what’s next
Another great build chap, was thinking of doing a scratch build or mod on a CO box ,managed to get a 5th Dr visitation one at a reasonable price but am disinclined to mod it as it looks pretty good as is , may custom it at sometime in the near, but in the meantime will start accumalating some styrene to attempt a scratch build , have done a couple of modded comet daleks over the lockdown that came out pretty well .
Well, whatever you decide to do, good luck with it.
I've been designing a 9/10th tardis because of this video and pretty much ended up with the same design just with the 10th tardis dimensions, I also scaled it down to a 1/19 scale because I'm impatient and I have a pretty decent printer that can get some small details, but it still gonna take over a day of printing for me to finish all the parts, especially with ironing to help with the sanding, but hopefully in a few days I'll be looking back on this video and the painting and weathering video to finish it
Best of luck with your project, it sounds like fun!
WOW, as always fantastic job, hopefully you don't wake up with the cold sweats after yet another police box dream/nightmare 😉👍
Thanks for the kind comments and for watching. I have pills for the TARDIS nightmares, so no worries there. ;)
‘Tardises weren’t built, they were grown’
Well this one certainly was...
Out of filament
Really enjoyed that thanks. Look forward to the next one cheers
Glad you enjoyed it, thanks for watching.
12:20 With my personal (admittedly highly limited and even more amateurish) experience with creating and printing 3D models, the extra dimensions probably come from the printing. Can't be sure, but it seems that that's the base, and the first layer (printed onto a platform) is usually done slightly differently to the higher levels (printed onto the plastic), and so that sort of anomaly is unsurprising to me. So, I would give the CG-modeller the benefit of the doubt here (I think that sort of mistake is really quite unlikely when doing that sort of thing). In fact, checking again, you can see that the edge goes inwards after a layer or so of plastic.
14:10 Oh (I ought to watch videos fully before beginning to type, shouldn't I?), and I think that bowing is probably also in part because the outer edges, like the base layer, are handled differently to the main surface parts. The pronounced problems at the corner posts are also probably because the nozzle motion mechanism can have notable difficulty at corners.
You're certainly right about 3D printing not being any sort of panacea...The sheer number of discarded tests you can get when preparing the CG model is outrageous. (I often say that 3D printing adds a whole extra dimension of difficulty to normal printing.)
Anyway, the result of the model from the 3D print is genuinely staggering, and I think the tips and information you've given will be very useful for me (as someone planning a number of my own similar 3D printed models, at an early stage), and so thank you. A very inspiring and informative channel generally.
I'll certainly take a look at Segal's channel, and what a (pleasantly) surprising cameo!
As I've said elsewhere, the whole point of this video was simply to highlight the ups and downs of using this technology, just as I highlight the ups and downs of scratch building or any other type of fabrication. Creation is not easy and for those who go in to it thinking it is, I just wanted to highlight the reality. Thanks for watching!
A tip for when standing, I use wireless noise cancelling earphones to block out the noise. Otherwise I think I will probably have a panic attack.
I don't mind sanding in general at all, it's just lenticular stuff and even then, while the sound is painful, it's the feeling that really gets to me though. Thanks for the suggestion!
Philip Seagal seems like such a nice guy and a big Doctor Who fan.
Yeah, he's a lovely bloke!
Great video. Where can I get hold of the kit?
Thanks for watching, glad you liked it. The kit was supplied to me by the client, I had no contact with the maker.
1:00 general kenobi
Why, hello there...
I know he is just a man like the rest of us, buy the hero worship side of me can't believe that Philip Segal has a RUclips hobby channel. Aleays hoped to meet him knew day at one of the numerous conventions I've attended but never seem to have had the chance. 😢
I see your point, but I don't see him as a celebrity - though there are celebrities out there who have dabbled in creating RUclips content, Brie Larson and Will Smith spring to mind. It seems a bit odd, almost like they're trying to reach out to their audience and fanbase, though I have to admit that I'm slightly cynical of this and suspect that there may actually be ulterior motives... Promotion of themselves and their brand being one such idea. I do not believe for one moment that their presence here is to connect with their fans.
Phil on the other hand has a genuine interest in his model making and wants to share his journey with other like minded people, so you have to respect him for that. I know that I certainly do!
Not to seem ungrateful for modern technology, but wouldn't it be easier to do this with cut card and wood?
It's a double edged sword really, but in this case, I was asked to assemble the kit, so that's what I did.
I build mine with popsicle sticks and it didn’t turn out half that bad
What we make these models from is largely irrelevant to the end product, it's how you make and finish them. I've made models in the past from all manner of "junk" - including cereal packets, scrap card and old lids from things, but with the end result, you couldn't tell, so I'm not surprised that your popsicle sticks build turned out nice.
I’d give a kidney to have the skills and the printer to do things like this lol
The skills come with practise. I'd suggest just having a go and take it from there. You don't need a printer for something like this - it's just a box with details.
@@PBProps You overestimate my box making skills. 😁 But I do appreciate the encouragement and you have my sub!
Thanks for the sub - you obviously have great taste. As for your skill set, well, these develop over time, just give it a chance... it's the only way it can grow.
So I decided.. I like doctor who... I like the TARDIS and then thought why not make one with a model kit... Holy hell sanding down the doors and walls has given me bach ache
I feel your pain!
...Titanic in the background
There is in deed - Phil's done a video on his progress with it.
I am the exact same with lenticular stuff; it sets my teeth on edge and.. URGH nope
I hear you. Growing up in the 1970's and 1980's, it was everywhere - on rulers, lunch boxes, place mats and cups. What a nightmare. I try to avoid it as much as possible!
@@PBProps The worst thing by far for me is polystyrene; if I open something up and it's secured with that stuff I fully freak out!
I don't mind that at all, oddly enough. You'd better watch out, one or two of my videos have me working with the stuff - squeaks everywhere in those!
@@PBProps OH I KNOW I genuinely muted them at that point haha