certainly no e-correction on a pup this young and generally never for any dog when on bird scent now, on the practical side, whilst hunting in the UK, I'll assume (correct me if wrong) that one is not likely to be startled, coming over a berm and glimpsing your hunting dog chasing a coyote into the woods, or a river otter down the other side of a swale - better the handler shut that sort of chase down and impart a learning moment, than the varmint do it when caught - many big-running pointing-breeds can outrun coyotes and give a deer a pretty good chase - another name for the e-collar is "trash buster" and it works: last month in some pretty rough country my pup flushed a big buck, but didn't chase, just stood and watched it run off - no correction necessary - and only one prior on deer, only took one - never caught him in a porcupine burrow yet, but maybe the one time he got quilled (at some distance) was enough to learn him - luckily he only had about a dozen in the nose, thank goodness none in the mouth - nevertheless, I do nick him out of gopher holes if a verbal hack fails - in these parts rattlers are sometimes seen sliding in and out of gopher holes...hey come on hunting with us sometime one tip: don't talk to your dog when correcting it, and especially not when on point - I know in the video he's talking to the dog mostly for the audience, but lest one get the wrong idea, he should've made that clear - this is the essence of it: "...Everything that happens after the dog becomes aware of the bird, by scent or sight, until the bird flushes and flies away is between the dog and the bird..." from steadywithstyle.com/west-method-overview/
Hi - the dog locking up will be completely natural for the most part. Some dogs may want to charge in after the bird when they small it but with some mild coaxing they should stop. The tricky part is them staying steady once the bird has been flushed. That's where training takes place. Thanks for your question.
Good training
would love to see what this looks like with a dog that has never don this before looks like.
Do you only start this after "whoa" training?
I (and my GSP) really appreciate the excellent video. The grouse and woodcock we’re hunting? Not so much.
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This is a great video, wish there were more like it using this style of training
Excellent video.
this one of the best demo vids I've seen .elec collars not popular in uk and should not be needed good vid
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certainly no e-correction on a pup this young and generally never for any dog when on bird scent
now, on the practical side, whilst hunting in the UK, I'll assume (correct me if wrong) that one is not likely to be startled, coming over a berm and glimpsing your hunting dog chasing a coyote into the woods, or a river otter down the other side of a swale - better the handler shut that sort of chase down and impart a learning moment, than the varmint do it when caught - many big-running pointing-breeds can outrun coyotes and give a deer a pretty good chase - another name for the e-collar is "trash buster" and it works: last month in some pretty rough country my pup flushed a big buck, but didn't chase, just stood and watched it run off - no correction necessary - and only one prior on deer, only took one - never caught him in a porcupine burrow yet, but maybe the one time he got quilled (at some distance) was enough to learn him - luckily he only had about a dozen in the nose, thank goodness none in the mouth - nevertheless, I do nick him out of gopher holes if a verbal hack fails - in these parts rattlers are sometimes seen sliding in and out of gopher holes...hey come on hunting with us sometime
one tip: don't talk to your dog when correcting it, and especially not when on point - I know in the video he's talking to the dog mostly for the audience, but lest one get the wrong idea, he should've made that clear - this is the essence of it: "...Everything that happens after the dog becomes aware of the bird, by scent or sight, until the bird flushes and flies away is between the dog and the bird..." from steadywithstyle.com/west-method-overview/
So is this a natural thing for the dog to lock on ur do u need to train him
Hi - the dog locking up will be completely natural for the most part. Some dogs may want to charge in after the bird when they small it but with some mild coaxing they should stop. The tricky part is them staying steady once the bird has been flushed. That's where training takes place.
Thanks for your question.
That’s a hell of a heel haha!
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