was about to ask "Why combat discipline if damage to shields also triggers it?", but because of the i-frames, only that can damage you trhough i-frames, brilliant !!
And Penance should heal that up immediately, which can trigger Archon Intensify... maybe I'll slot that instead of Transient Fortitude, Narrow Minded or Primed Continuity.
One of Harrow's best primaries I think it was criminal not to mention is the Trumna. It hugely benefits from the firerate Penance gives + Arcane Acceleration, and the reload speed buff can bring it down to ~1 second with the strength you have on this build. He's pretty easily the second best user of the weapon in the game, imo anyway.
@@turbo_killer347 Gauss, 100%. The Trumna has essentially infinite scaling with fire rate buffs, and Redline starts at over double the baseline fire rate boost of Penance at max battery. Gauss can also stack the shit out of Duration comfortably, based on your build, to boost that to stupid levels, where most optimal Harrow builds don't get too much Strength.
I just build harrow the other day and I loved it, I mainly play solo so I can use lasting covenant for those juicy red crits. I like big red numbers on screen.
Augur mods arent too good of an idea on a frame that uses shield gating a lot, if you're getting shot at and you use your 1 you are going to die unless an enemy is exactly in front of you. You're essentially replacing your big shield gate for a tiny bit of shields that will give a shield gate so small it's like it doesnt exist, its why augur mods kill protea.
@@FerunaLutelou Personally I prefer his 1, it lets me attack, reload, move during the whole time while giving a cc effect that is quite handy. I dont think the armour strip that pillage has is worth it over replacing his 1 since you gotta cast it 2-3 times for the full strip.
@@chungo2548 after the armor changes you dont need to a full strip and at 200%+ (more than 250% in my case) strength you strip a significant amount of armor, so 1 cast is enough. Also, every Harrow main knows to put at least 2 yellow or 1 yellow tau shard for casting speed. I have 2 yellow tau for that, so casting pillage is pretty much instant. Finally, there's your companion that ckhkd be made to apply corrosive + heat or cold (either one is good for Harrow) lowering enemy armor even further and CCing everything in the room.
On Harrow I really like pillage over his 1, it does practicaly the same thing (give us shields) while also armor stripping and it allows us to focus entirely on strength and duration.
Idk why would use armor strip ability on harrow tbh u can just mod for actual corrosive, throw 2 green shards, get viral from nourish and it just works straight up better lol. To each their own tho.
I love Harrow, when I have a new weapon and I don’t know what to do with it Harrow is my go to. My first level cap disruption was with Harrow I was invincible almost the entire way
I like archon intensify instead of transient fortitude, I'm not sure if the extra strength is applied on penance but it does help with thurible and condemned, and you get back the 27% duration
subsuming nourish over his 3 feels like giving rhino eclipse over his roar kinda, i get the viral part but every revenant timmy and his mom runs with nourish/roar, viral is not that hard to come by. I love seeing those floating blue + energy numbers, its his thing, equally to the red brrrr crits. I guess it makes playing him way more streamlined because handling all parts of his kit gets in the way of just shooting some things.
Its much simpler honestly. You are playing in a team and you need to kill people to give energy to your team, preferably with headshots. If your team has streamlined dps and builds you will never manage to get that many kills and give them energy. While nourish, u stand somewhat close to them. You hit it. Wow everyone has energy and viral damage. Just way more consistent, nothing else
@@WispGraxx its sad that anyone could do that, it devalues the honestly cool kit harrow has, but i get it, that khorsa last night carving her way through conjunction survival didnt care for my amazing owls or book buff all that much:P
@@UndergroundBirdok but what is better? Sitting on the open and casting thurrible for 10 seconds without being able to fight back or just hit nourish, do the exact same thing and shoot anything that can kill you? Read the title. It says "comfy". Its supposed to remove harrow's weaknesses in current meta
@@UndergroundBird he literally explained how its not better just more consistent and comfortable to him, and then your reply is "its not that hard" do you understand the subjectivity in using something to be more comfortable, if that is the reason and the way he likes it, how can you know better in than him
I personally dont see why you put nourish on harrow, perosnally while yes you do get some damage bonuses from this his normal 3rd will give INFINITELY more energy than nourish
is it really worth using nourish though? i mean its nice I get that but you're gonna be goingafter so many kills anyways and easily get headshots too, and what about those iffy moments where you cant find any orbs? just curious
can you explain why u add a damage mod like serration on top of having primary deadhead? most guides ive seen say having that additive damage is bad, just curious
If you are still interested it's a niche case based on "gun condition overload". Certain weapons the %dmg from gun CO will multiply with so serration is MUCH more than just +% You have to dig around to find if the gun CO on a weapon is additive or multiplicative.
Because the affect of PD only lasts for 24 seconds and only after your first kill, which can be really a pain depending on weapon or if you want to play slower...
So I accidentally figured this out while messing with my duration after watching this vid. Even though it is true that duration is mostly personal preference, I think at least 200% is where you want to be. With 203% duration, 1 cast of penance with full shields (assuming the 2 tau blues are installed) caps out the 120s duration of penance.
Ron you remind me of a good friend of mine! This video has all your answers: ruclips.net/video/fcuOwWaP65s/видео.htmlsi=8vWdc_APkZDUwSzt Any of the builds showcased will do
you can go with redirection and adaptation combo, harrow becomes incredibly tanky after just a couple of seconds on SP, I couldnt believ how comfortable I was doing that
im contemplating replacing his 3 with nourish. in all honesty this dumb ability should be refreshable, not expire, make sure you have a huge energy pool to cast this long ass animation then get back to killing. his 3 is a chore to keep up along with his 2 and survive. also i think its bs you cant benefit from shield regain on hit when it comes to overguard. Let the ability give you shields on hit and have a small cooldown on whatever target you hit to gain shields from em again. Sure you cant CC the eximus but at the least you can grab some shield off of em.
it work but alot of confused! YOu need crit but not crit! So you actually need riven + crit dam, not crit chance and - status chance. You can dont use prime crit chance mod
his 1 isnt clunky at all, and you dont really need any range on it, its 20m at base, thats plenty unless you are trying to chain enemies across the open world which makes no sense his 1 is much better faster and cheaper way of replenishing shields without any investment, at base, pillage while better needs actual build around it
I personaly don‘t like it. For me there are situations where do you want shield fast but have to come near the enemy. With Pillage on duration you can just spam, you have shield, armor strip, then good energy sustain from your 3 with Natural Talent and the crit chance buff and immortality from the 4. You just need a bit duration and strength but you need that anyways. It‘s just my opinion.
@@sidneysnow5096 your opinion is valid except the part that you need to come near the enemy its 20 meters brother, there is no coming near enemy, if anything the only thing his 1 has over pillage, is tha tit doesnt need any investment, and its actually a better shield replenisher pillage is better because it does more than just replenish the shields, but with new green shards and other tools its becoming more and more obsolete to run pillage on all except few specific builds and frames Id personally rather have something that my Harrow doesnt have (grouping, different form of weapon buffing, CC, nuking), and use his 1 and green shards to acccomplish what pillage does with more freedom with my modding
Pillage over his 1 is spammy but it saves you the rolling guard slot and removes both armor and shield from enemies.Extremely useful. Makes every faction infested.
needs ton of range strenght basically no duration to spam it its trash , too costy to use not worth it use 2 green shard for max coro stacks and ur good to go
i mean have you actually played the build bc both have merits hate this dumbass one is bad one is good shit. pillage is solid for high eximus enviroments or where you want instant strip w/o needing high firerate/ multishot. corrosive w viral on nourish is solid for the high fire rate high multishot weapons and allows for solid weapons in duviri and deep archimedea. one is very specific but solid at its job the other is trying to be general use. both are solid both can lvl cap pillage harrow is very confy and i trust moug.
@@Huh-0.1 pillage removes status effects in addition to everything else it does. For its duration. I've played it and it works. Nautilus to group, zenistar disk spreads status, manifold bond. Helstrum etc. Main dps tenet arca plasmor.
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was about to ask "Why combat discipline if damage to shields also triggers it?", but because of the i-frames, only that can damage you trhough i-frames, brilliant !!
And Penance should heal that up immediately, which can trigger Archon Intensify... maybe I'll slot that instead of Transient Fortitude, Narrow Minded or Primed Continuity.
The Firelink Shrine music hit me like a truck, it's been ages since I played DS3 and the vibe fits Harrow so well
DS3 Firelink Shrine is so good and nostalgic. Love it
One of Harrow's best primaries I think it was criminal not to mention is the Trumna. It hugely benefits from the firerate Penance gives + Arcane Acceleration, and the reload speed buff can bring it down to ~1 second with the strength you have on this build. He's pretty easily the second best user of the weapon in the game, imo anyway.
Who's the first one in your opinion?
@@turbo_killer347 Gauss, 100%. The Trumna has essentially infinite scaling with fire rate buffs, and Redline starts at over double the baseline fire rate boost of Penance at max battery. Gauss can also stack the shit out of Duration comfortably, based on your build, to boost that to stupid levels, where most optimal Harrow builds don't get too much Strength.
I have been loving the stahlta, hitting 2 million red crits off the bullets alone. The radial attack just kills everything.
i just got Harrow from the resurgence your guide its the most recent one and after i finished the build i really like it it flows really well
I just build harrow the other day and I loved it, I mainly play solo so I can use lasting covenant for those juicy red crits.
I like big red numbers on screen.
Love the build man! Harrow absolutely shreds and he's definitely in my top 3 weapon platforms now.
the music is so suiting for harrow lol
Augur mods arent too good of an idea on a frame that uses shield gating a lot, if you're getting shot at and you use your 1 you are going to die unless an enemy is exactly in front of you. You're essentially replacing your big shield gate for a tiny bit of shields that will give a shield gate so small it's like it doesnt exist, its why augur mods kill protea.
That's why some people just replace his 1 with pillage from Hildryn. It's much more reliable and it strips armor too
@@FerunaLutelou Personally I prefer his 1, it lets me attack, reload, move during the whole time while giving a cc effect that is quite handy. I dont think the armour strip that pillage has is worth it over replacing his 1 since you gotta cast it 2-3 times for the full strip.
@@chungo2548 after the armor changes you dont need to a full strip and at 200%+ (more than 250% in my case) strength you strip a significant amount of armor, so 1 cast is enough. Also, every Harrow main knows to put at least 2 yellow or 1 yellow tau shard for casting speed. I have 2 yellow tau for that, so casting pillage is pretty much instant. Finally, there's your companion that ckhkd be made to apply corrosive + heat or cold (either one is good for Harrow) lowering enemy armor even further and CCing everything in the room.
Trumna and Tenet Archa Plasmor os also good guns for Harrow, with the fire rate and reload speed buffs
Love the ds3 music🗿
On Harrow I really like pillage over his 1, it does practicaly the same thing (give us shields) while also armor stripping and it allows us to focus entirely on strength and duration.
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Idk why would use armor strip ability on harrow tbh u can just mod for actual corrosive, throw 2 green shards, get viral from nourish and it just works straight up better lol. To each their own tho.
@@Huh-0.1 because not everyone like to use corrosive build.
@@nguyenhuyduc9151 alright bro you can keep the magnetic blast builds to yourself, I prefer building damage
@@nguyenhuyduc9151 bruh what faction are u even playing against are u acoustic? genuine question
Dark souls music in the video makes it better for some reason
Harrow with prisma angstrum is really good due to that 50 more damage on overshield
I love Harrow, when I have a new weapon and I don’t know what to do with it Harrow is my go to. My first level cap disruption was with Harrow I was invincible almost the entire way
I like archon intensify instead of transient fortitude, I'm not sure if the extra strength is applied on penance but it does help with thurible and condemned, and you get back the 27% duration
@@hafbaik3472 ye for sure, i just want the less duration so i can cast 4 more often
the fire rate of the burston is ungodly
subsuming nourish over his 3 feels like giving rhino eclipse over his roar kinda, i get the viral part but every revenant timmy and his mom runs with nourish/roar, viral is not that hard to come by. I love seeing those floating blue + energy numbers, its his thing, equally to the red brrrr crits. I guess it makes playing him way more streamlined because handling all parts of his kit gets in the way of just shooting some things.
Its much simpler honestly. You are playing in a team and you need to kill people to give energy to your team, preferably with headshots. If your team has streamlined dps and builds you will never manage to get that many kills and give them energy. While nourish, u stand somewhat close to them. You hit it. Wow everyone has energy and viral damage. Just way more consistent, nothing else
@@WispGraxx its sad that anyone could do that, it devalues the honestly cool kit harrow has, but i get it, that khorsa last night carving her way through conjunction survival didnt care for my amazing owls or book buff all that much:P
@@WispGraxxa single kill is enough to refill everyones damage and getting a kill is not that hard
@@UndergroundBirdok but what is better? Sitting on the open and casting thurrible for 10 seconds without being able to fight back or just hit nourish, do the exact same thing and shoot anything that can kill you? Read the title. It says "comfy". Its supposed to remove harrow's weaknesses in current meta
@@UndergroundBird he literally explained how its not better just more consistent and comfortable to him, and then your reply is "its not that hard"
do you understand the subjectivity in using something to be more comfortable, if that is the reason and the way he likes it, how can you know better in than him
Will the torid work with harrow?
I usually use soma incarnon with harrow so the gun can crit, its really fun
Hey can you reed important values out loud. I just like to listen while driving it woud be appreciated 👏
I personally dont see why you put nourish on harrow, perosnally while yes you do get some damage bonuses from this his normal 3rd will give INFINITELY more energy than nourish
At least for me personally I don’t like the cast
im building him rn, would telos boltor be good on him? i feel like it can be quite nice with the crit and the slash stacks it deals
Im rank 11 currently what primary would you say is best for me (i completed the harrow build)
is it really worth using nourish though? i mean its nice I get that but you're gonna be goingafter so many kills anyways and easily get headshots too, and what about those iffy moments where you cant find any orbs? just curious
omg a harrow build
can you explain why u add a damage mod like serration on top of having primary deadhead? most guides ive seen say having that additive damage is bad, just curious
If you are still interested it's a niche case based on "gun condition overload". Certain weapons the %dmg from gun CO will multiply with so serration is MUCH more than just +%
You have to dig around to find if the gun CO on a weapon is additive or multiplicative.
Because the affect of PD only lasts for 24 seconds and only after your first kill, which can be really a pain depending on weapon or if you want to play slower...
Great build but you can run archon intensify instead of transient fortitude for more strength and more duration
So I accidentally figured this out while messing with my duration after watching this vid.
Even though it is true that duration is mostly personal preference, I think at least 200% is where you want to be. With 203% duration, 1 cast of penance with full shields (assuming the 2 tau blues are installed) caps out the 120s duration of penance.
Would the stahlta make for a good primary choice?
Stahlta is always a good primary choice. For harrow specifically one of the best primaries that I missed is the sporothrix
Can u make a build for stahlta and harrow that will work well together?
Ron you remind me of a good friend of mine!
This video has all your answers: ruclips.net/video/fcuOwWaP65s/видео.htmlsi=8vWdc_APkZDUwSzt
Any of the builds showcased will do
Can we get a build for ash? :) loved the video btw
If i find something more interesting than the basic ash build sure!!
Why not archon intensify instead of transient fortitude? You get more duration and more strenght since you heal with the 2…
@@PrimeRicci thats 100% viable option. I like less duration so i can safely recast my 4 thats all
@@WispGraxx humm i see. I might change around the build to free up a mod slot with a bit less duration (removing narrow minded and range mod)
did you show the hind build?
Sounds like bloodborne music
Please do a Latron build sometime in the future🙌
i feel like the shield shards are useless cus of condem
They increase s time so uh... NUH UH *also higher duration per cast for 2 lol
@@Huh-0.1 u do under stand how SPAMMABLE condem is right?
you can go with redirection and adaptation combo, harrow becomes incredibly tanky after just a couple of seconds on SP, I couldnt believ how comfortable I was doing that
im contemplating replacing his 3 with nourish. in all honesty this dumb ability should be refreshable, not expire, make sure you have a huge energy pool to cast this long ass animation then get back to killing. his 3 is a chore to keep up along with his 2 and survive. also i think its bs you cant benefit from shield regain on hit when it comes to overguard. Let the ability give you shields on hit and have a small cooldown on whatever target you hit to gain shields from em again. Sure you cant CC the eximus but at the least you can grab some shield off of em.
I hear Phenmor is unusable on Harrow.
@@gorefinger845 what who said that lol
Phenmor doesn't benefit from crit bonus because of the 2000% dmg on non crit, but I wouldn't say it's "useless" 😅
My crits are. Red,bloody red,and black
The look of ya harrow reminds me of gothic:D
Opinion on using laetum secondary with the overwhelming attrition build?
im not sure how you could make it work since harrow gives crit
@@WispGraxx xata makes it proc despite crits
it work but alot of confused! YOu need crit but not crit! So you actually need riven + crit dam, not crit chance and - status chance. You can dont use prime crit chance mod
Interesting.
Pillage on his one is insanse too. No clunky chains, no need for range anymore and with enough strength one cast to fully armor strip
How is it clunky tho
his 1 isnt clunky at all, and you dont really need any range on it, its 20m at base, thats plenty unless you are trying to chain enemies across the open world which makes no sense
his 1 is much better faster and cheaper way of replenishing shields without any investment, at base, pillage while better needs actual build around it
I personaly don‘t like it. For me there are situations where do you want shield fast but have to come near the enemy. With Pillage on duration you can just spam, you have shield, armor strip, then good energy sustain from your 3 with Natural Talent and the crit chance buff and immortality from the 4. You just need a bit duration and strength but you need that anyways. It‘s just my opinion.
@@sidneysnow5096 your opinion is valid except the part that you need to come near the enemy
its 20 meters brother, there is no coming near enemy, if anything the only thing his 1 has over pillage, is tha tit doesnt need any investment, and its actually a better shield replenisher
pillage is better because it does more than just replenish the shields, but with new green shards and other tools its becoming more and more obsolete to run pillage on all except few specific builds and frames
Id personally rather have something that my Harrow doesnt have (grouping, different form of weapon buffing, CC, nuking), and use his 1 and green shards to acccomplish what pillage does with more freedom with my modding
@@nbassasin8092 harrow 1 also gives u shield/overshield basically instantly lol and locks enemies in place for easy headshots n such
Pillage over his 1 is spammy but it saves you the rolling guard slot and removes both armor and shield from enemies.Extremely useful. Makes every faction infested.
heavily disagree
needs ton of range strenght basically no duration to spam it its trash , too costy to use not worth it use 2 green shard for max coro stacks and ur good to go
i mean have you actually played the build bc both have merits hate this dumbass one is bad one is good shit. pillage is solid for high eximus enviroments or where you want instant strip w/o needing high firerate/ multishot. corrosive w viral on nourish is solid for the high fire rate high multishot weapons and allows for solid weapons in duviri and deep archimedea. one is very specific but solid at its job the other is trying to be general use. both are solid both can lvl cap pillage harrow is very confy and i trust moug.
"Pillage over his 1 is spammy but it saves you the rolling guard slot" ...so true??? (what the actual fk did i just reed how, does it make any sense)
@@Huh-0.1 pillage removes status effects in addition to everything else it does. For its duration. I've played it and it works. Nautilus to group, zenistar disk spreads status, manifold bond. Helstrum etc. Main dps tenet arca plasmor.
haro
some how the first 5 minutes soundes like ChatGPT🙃
my bad
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ben
Very bad
Why no archon intensify instead of transient fortitude.