The Main Swing Difference Between LOW and HIGH Handicap Golfers
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- Опубликовано: 3 дек 2022
- How we control the golf club in its entirety will strongly influence our swing direction, strike, repeatability, effort levels, distance, launch... You get the point! If our intention is to control the golf club from the club head (whilst excluding the handle) as you'll find out in this video - this can have a huge effect on the entire golf swing.
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Great explanation Marcus 👏 Hope you've got over your Turkey-Tiredness! It's a fantastic place to be ⛳ For those new to ZGM who are just watching the videos; I truly hope they offer some improvement for you. But to gain the best possible outcome, go and have a session with any of them. I can guarantee you will not be disappointed with your results 👍
What amazing feedback, Paul! Thank you.
Loved it Marcus!
Cheers Brendon 👍
Dude! I absolutely love this video. What a fantastic way to communicate the concept of how we use the club properly! Brilliant!
I was stuck in the low 80’s for years. Started working through this a few months ago, and really started “getting it” two weeks ago when I started bringing my hands low and to the left at/through impact. Have several rounds in the mid 70’s because of these videos over the past two weeks. Fantastic!
In your driver release video, you have a segment where you are talking about maintaining the relationship between a tennis ball on your shoulder, and the tennis balls on the club. I totally missed it the first few times I watched the video.
Very, very helpful with the driver when I “got it”.
Could you do a similar video showing the relationship between a tennis ball on the shoulder and the tennis balls on the club specific to irons?
Thanks for providing one of the of the most significant light bulb moments in my 30ish 12:26 years as a golfer.
Thanks for the tutorial Marcus it’s been great for me. I had seen you use this with one of your students but it didn’t really click with me. Todays explanation has cleared it up for me, I’ve cut up my tennis balls and have been feeling the movement and hitting indoor balls for an hour now and I totally get it.
I’m no longer thinking too much about the club head.
Thanks, I live in Devon and if I get chance I would love to get a lesson so that you could tailor your instruction to my needs.
One day!
Thanks again.
Brilliant! Gonna try and find lesson video! Have you ever seen studied 3D hand path? I coached for years but never really played like most pros lost interest motivation etc!
Just another way of putting attention and awareness into something other than the club head!!
No club just palms together and with short Actions imagine the hands through impact move upwards and left?
So from face on the hand path is moving upwards and from down the line hands are moving left at and post impact!!
This totally transformed my feelings and the ball flight was nothing like what I imagined with feelings!!
The club head has to have a better path in order for hands to be moving upwards and left through impact and beyond!!
Try it let me know what you think?
Awesome and enlightening Fantastic !! THANKS !!
Brill need to sell as a training aid but and easy clip on and off tennis ball. Need to get your training aids patented as seen your grf copied already. You was using the board yrs ago. My game as completely transformed using the zen way. Never thought at 62 , I would ever outdrive my best mate. Driving 240/250 from 180/190 in just 6 weeks. So happy thanks Marcus.
Brilliant teaching Marcus!!!! Easy to understand
Cheers, Steve!
Dang great visual, going to tape some t balls on my club right now..
Thanks 👊👊👊👊
Make sure the tennis balls are aligned to your spina angle!... Joking 😂
As ever on the money brilliant work pure and simple
Thanks Andrew!
I love this method Marcus! Thank you for a excellent explanation! I’ve got to go out and buy some tennis balls now!
Haha make sure you get an extra tennis ball to cut in half too for a bit of Drop 'n Pop action also 😂👊
Brilliant well explained it all makes sense to me as well. I look forward to making my own and can't wait to see it using other checkpoints for good rotational golf swing mechanics. Thanks!
You're welcome, Robert! Let me know how you get on
Great description of how the handle works in the swing! It puts it all into perspective from what I was watching last week with Eddie Merrins who was giving a lesson to Craig T. Nelson many years ago. Thanks!
Awesome 👍
Ive been watching numerous golf instruction on YT now roughly 16 months. Robinson, Finch, Meand My Golf, Lackey and Crossfield. Since 2020 restarting the game, at age 57, ive gone from shooting upper 80's or above, to a consistant 80-81, with about 7 rounds in the 70's. Some of the big changes ive made has been changing shafts for lower weight, bigger grips, and ACTUALLY TRYING TO APPLY SOME OF THESE VIDEO LESSONS.
Such a differnt world since I first fell in love with golf in 1987.
I must say, after watching your videos, my ball striking and body movement has improved more than i thought. Your course of instruction is difficult at best, most folks cant walk and chew gum at the same time, let alone, have the patience and dedication needed to get results, especially when it comes to constantly thinking too much INTO the swing. Its like writing music to me,....if your never satisfied or confident with an end result, you will constantly write and rewrite in a vicious circle, without ever reaching a conclusion. Visualize, set-up, swing. With CONFIDENCE.
As a former military instructor, I also appreciate your presentation of the lesson. Your oratory articulation, confidence-building motivation, and usage of unfamiliar training aids for more training options for different learning levels, is TOP NOTCH.
So, at age 59, in a span of about 3 months viewing some of your videos ive gone from a 15 to an 8 HCP.
Hoping to live a dream this year and play in the WORLD AMATUER TOURNAMENT. Just for fun really, but deep down, Id like to be competitive enough to possibly win in my division. Or at least place.
Thank you and keep the videos coming.
This is absolutely amazing, Franklin - we all absolute suckers for a good dream chasing story so for that reason and many others I shall wish you all the best on your endeavour to play competitively in a World Amateur event. All the best and thank you! Be sure to keep us updated.
This is genius! Thanks Marcus.
No problem at all Señor Kipling
Sounds great and makes sense. Hogan after impact the lower tennis ball was outside also. Thank you for sharing 👍
No problem, hope it helps!
When you say the lower tennis ball was outside also, do you mean as in behind the upper tennis ball ? Thanks
Very good, as a low handicap player I do swing the head but I have experimented with this higher tennis ball leading concept before so I will give back to it at the range this week.
Great stuff, let us know how you get on!
i have given u some some neg feedback in the past...But this is BRILLIANT...this is what us "hackers need" to see. Thanks!
All feedback is good feedback - much appreciated and enjoy the drill
My name is also John. Sounds like a certain 12 step group therapy comment, when and what and how and where is the "release" ? Your videos are great ! Thank you
😂😂😂 next video "the 12 step programme"
Terrific job, guess what I’m taping to my club tomorrow
..eh would it be two little rubber ducks by any chance
This is not bashing swing coaches or people trying to help golfers in general. It needs to be said, getting into proper positions in a golf swing can be important... that being said as a pro I can purposely play a full 18 making my swing ugly as possible playing purposeful slices and Dropkick draws and still comfortably shoot under par just with my hands and feel around the green. Scoring is so much more then clinical swings it’s touch, feel, imagination, and the ability to get the ball in the hole that really makes a good golfer. Never forget this.
so as a pro it is possible to be playing "purposeful" slices and dropkick draws.. key word is purposeful. most amateurs don't know what they're doing therefore lacking purpose. only when you know the destination back to front u can choose different routes.
@@freshprinceofsolair what I’m trying to convey is touch and feel around the greens and the ability to putt will make you a lower handicap, not proper position in the full golf swing. Touch and feel around the greens is majority of the strokes in a round of golf and should be the focus to shave strokes off a handicap.
@@RMgolf have you watched many of these videos?.... Marcus never teaches positions....it's all feelings and movement....and visualization...I think these comments would be better aimed at the many other RUclips coaches out there....
I've had a lesson with Marcus and he never once told me what position to put the club in....
It's all task /visualise and movement
@@robinc3307 I addressed this in the very first message. Not bashing just changing perspectives on what good golf actually is
@@RMgolf I don't think you did really....just think it was a miss placed comment....and stating the obvious....anyone who's played for a while will know golf is about getting the ball in the hole.....not how but how many....we all know people that swing it ugly and beat the pants off us every week.....but if you look back to the beginning of this channel and teaching you will see it started as something as simple as feeling left foot right foot....and the evolved from there.......anyway we all have our views and what suits one will not suit another
Eddie Merrins concept swing the handle not the clubhead.
Never seen his concept before but looking up now 👍
This tutorial is about looking at the club as a whole and not necessarily just the handle but being aware of the handle. A lot of people think of just clubhead as path. Thanks 👍
@@GRFGolfYes A big difference from when i was a hacker is im aware of the whole club especially at impact,just like in any other sport ive been good at eg cricket/tennis all bad batsmen hit at the ball with the toe of the bat and in golf its worse as its a heavy clubhead, dont make it heavier! I focus on the lead center of the shaft (nicked this from matt christian texas)
I love this video and trying to tape the balls now. Are there specific reference points on the club as to where the balls are attached for proper alignment??? Thanks so much!!!
That's awesome David. Just below the handle and above the hosel 👍
Genius!!!!!
Thomas Edison - The Light Bulb
Albert Einstein - Mass-energy equivalence
Marcus - "Well I taped a tennis ball to a golf club once" 😅😂
@@GRFGolf Genius comes in all types of packages; the neat thing is you have found an inventive package that will help far more than Ol' Albert could have been understood - Then and Now. 👍
Never looked at it that way. Thank you for showing this technique Marcus.
Good stuff, Jonathan, you're very welcome.
This one hurt my head ! I started watching Zen videos cos I liked the thought of clearing the mind of positions and swing planes etc and just freeing the swing up but seems to be alot more of that creeping into it now.
I get it, it's not one size fits all and one person might need something explained to them differently than the next person to get them moving properly and fine tune things .
Just wondering how you introduce this drill into a golf swing without consciously thinking of where the handle, the shaft, and the clubhead are thru the swing ? Older videos made it seem like these positions just happened after you got people moving their bodies in the correct order. Or is this the kind of thing that would go on in all lessons but we've just not been seeing it as you're having to edit hours of coaching and condense into 30 minute videos ?
Not a criticism, just interested. I'll be giving the ideas in this video a try as it's something thats crept into my swing lately. I can actually feel the clubhead overtaking the hands and know it's a pull draw before I look up.
Maybe next weeks video of the lesson will explain more. 🤷👍🏻
Agree, Zen videos initially cleared my head but now they have become a bit more micro focussed it has brought back in interference at times 😕. Still helpful knowledge none the less but I agree it would be interesting to know if this happens alongside the 30 mins of footage we see !
You'll see more in the lesson video on Weds. It's an individual specific approach where I just shared an element of what we did in a pupil's lesson 👍
Take a headache tablet for your poor little head
..it hurt your head coz it’s a subtle point. If you close the face by rotating the club like Marcus showed then you won’t need to flip the club and you will never hit another fat shot, even in winter playing off mud lies. Surely a little pain in the head is worth no more fat shots, it even works out of bunkers because it’s easier to control the low point.
It is very simple if you let it brew in your skull for a few days, you’ll be a different golfer then, guaranteed. You’re welcome 👍
@@cdunne1620 leave off the drink buddy
@@benr91377 ..what do you mean, I had a cup of tea earlier, is that what you mean my friend
Patent pending....GRF tennis balls....£299.....fantastic
All joking aside...I'll be trying this....great visual aid
£299 per ball! 🤪 hope you're well, Robin
I like that !
Good to hear!
Fantastic explanation will buy tennis balls today!
Awesome! Let us know how you get on!
Thanks great image, I suspect what's problematic for many of us particularly older golfers, we have been told in many books going right back to Earnest Jones, to swing the club head, some may disagree but I think now it can lead to the good old flip? Cheers
Yeah, obviously it depends on the individual and how that information is interpreted - but in my experience too much emphasis on the club head alone can be problematic
Excellent video, but when does the turning of the shaft occur to position the club face properly? Thanks
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Had to watch this a couple of times and i might need a couple more! Very interesting but not quite sure about how to release the club to get mores speed. could it lead to dragging the club? great stuff as usual.
Ulnar deviation of the wrists in the delivery phase will release the club. It’s like the motion when you cast a fishing rod. Do that at club parallel.
@@jasonkelley6185 thanks. Milo lines describes something like turning a door knob is that similar?
@@andrewmorris9722 That would be forearm pronation and supination. Ulnar deviation would be like if you had your right arm held out in front of you with your forearm and hand pointing straight to the ceiling, palm to the left, and then you point your hand at the monitor without moving the forearm.
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Driver in detail with tennis balls
We touched on it with John's lesson video
The Main Swing Difference Between LOW and HIGH Handicap Golfers i see is that most golfers never get to their left side and only good ballstrikers ie very few! use their left side.Yes i know Zen bangs on about how to use the lower body/footwork/ground pressure which is great and gets you to your left side but good ballstrikers use their unnatural left side/left chest/left shoulder/left arm/left hand on the handle,they fling the frisbee!
Everything effects everything, Graham, I hear what you're saying. It can be a chicken and egg thing - does working with using the tool correctly then bring about efficient use of the left side? Or does efficient use of the left side then allow us to use the tool more optimally? No correct answer really! Flinging the frisbee is a great analogy! But can oftentimes fall short if the individual doesn't have a sense for what that feels like, especially in a golfing context. Appreciate your thoughts and comment on this one, great stuff.
@@GRFGolf Its taken me years to realise that the secret of golf is the same as any other sport,Athletic Anticipation.Its just harder to use it in golf as you and the ball are stationary and its on the ground.All of which kills athletic anticipation/ movement,which is why your videos are so good as they help overcome inertia.
Pull with left hand
Sequencing is at the heart of it. Hands, shoulders, torso, pelvis, legs, feet, ground reaction forces 👍
Weirdly ive had success focussing on the lead centre of the shaft ie between the 2 balls!
Awesome 👍
..well you need a third ball then in the middle
Is there a zen instructor in Chicago?
Just here at Bawtry David 👍
Do you do swing analysis of videos ? Thanks
I swear that I could hear the "PENNY DROPPING" for thousands of golfers👍👍👍👍
Now where the fek are them damn tennis balls!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'll buy that penny for £1?
@@GRFGolf Sounds like a bargain👍👍
I wonder how quickly Danny Fraud will be taping tennis balls to one of his clubs?????? LOL
Perhaps the tennis balls on a club should be the next ZEN product???? You could call it ZENBALLs..............though that name may need a little refinement
Swing a broom with a short handle ,it will tell you what your swing faults are almost instantly.
I'm a huge advocate of working on the swing and getting a few household chores done at the same time 😝😂👍
@@GRFGolf
I saw Chi Chi use a broom to explain pronate and supinate years ago, been using it with my new students ever since, I am a proponent of working with what they have ,no big changes.
…what happened to that lamp shade
@@cdunne1620
Never been that drunk
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Manuel de La Torre had a practice club with 3 club heads on it. One at bottom of shaft ( as normal) one in the middle , one up near the grip. This was to encourage pupils to swing “ the whole club.🏌️♂️😀
He also had silky smooth swing.
That's awesome, will have to check it out!!