LeBron cant win a chip in the first 7 years in Cleveland, Skip Bayless: "He always needs help" Durant can't win a chip in OKC, Skip Bayless: "He was STUCK" lmao clown
Gian Magrine no one in NBA history other than a prime MJ would be able to beat those Warriors with that Cavs team. And even MJ, I’m unsure if he could do it, but he’d probably have the best shot.
@@scopeworth7781 shaq would,prime duncan spurs could,Showtime lakers could,this Warriors team is not this demon that you guys portray,their defense is pathetic and offensively they are also limited,with a post up Guy like duncan,shaq their defense would fall easy
Hes right 2 and 1 in the finals is way better than 3 and 6. Lebumb should be 2 and 7 in the finals or 1 and 8 if ray didnt save him. Sad this steroid using bum is considered a goat lmao. Kd, Kobe and jordan are way better than bron not even an argument.
He has an irrational hate for LeBron because Skip is too romantic when it comes to sports. Analytics and reality doesn't come first for Skip, Skip uses analytics to support or hurt guys who he agrees with philosophically. Shannon is way more analytical and objective. LeBron has his eyes outside of the game, he wants to become a billionaire, and take over industry. All Jordan cared about was the game, winning, and being the best, and doing it ruthlessly and aggressively. That's why Skip will always support Jordan over LeBron, because of Jordan's romantic obsession with winning and competing, has nothing to do with who ACTUALLY is the best.
They forget that KD gets to play 1 on 1 meanwhile Jordan and Kobe had double coverage. Imagine if you put LeBron on GSW instead of KD... No way LeBrons getting double covered
Bron haters gotta come at you with the “ifs” because they know past the FT % and Bron choosing too pass off instead of taking the big shot (even though Brons hit buzzer beaters back in the day and hits crazy clutch shots all the time.) Brons Top 2 All-Time. Where he is in those two is up to you.
KD even being in the convo is a joke. I'm.not some Lebron dickrider either. Just look what happens when he left Miami and Cleveland. They instantly became bottom 5 teams. OKC has been just fine since LD left
"He'll go to the east and start dominating there" - skip bayless This did not age well at all. Lost to bucks in 7 then come back next year to just get swept
Corpy Hogan stop watching Naruto and read my comment it's not rocket science. It's like all y'all fans want the media to say Curry is the best player in the world.. You can't seriously believe that right???????
Shannon be tearing the Fur off Skip, I love this show!
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@TruMusic89 Jordan was making the playoffs with losing team records. Lebron was missing the playoffs with a better team record than Jordan, so there's that.
does it matter? everyone knows Jordan lost that game but putting 63 against hall of famers loaded team in a playoff game is impresive! It is still a record until today
bruh. Skip and the haters will say he only won because of the bubble environment, the west was weak and AD. Look these people always do the same if Lebron wins, its because the refs, luck, NBA is rigged, his teammates. When Lebron loses, its all on him, Lebron choked. When MJ won it had nothing to do with Pippen or Phil Jackson it is 100% on MJ. Lebron is the most hated NBA all-time great in HISTORY. Imagine how good he has been that despite all that hate and the 4-6 media narrative. He is still in the Mount Rushmore of basketball
@Lucas Walker lol that's your pathetic argument? Lebron missed 28 games last year and when he came back half of the team is injured too. They were 4th seed before he went down. I wonder what you're thinking now that Lebron is about to win another ring 😂
Lucas Walker No one has ever won a ring without another top tier player and good role players on their team, that’s why championships are TEAM achievements not individual achievements.
Lucas Walker the Heat played awful that series and Golden States’ two best players were out, there’s always exemptions to a rule? Your examples are 2 of 73 championships.
Lucas Walker Klay went down in that series, Cousins was hurt, Curry has never had a great finals series and Green was a shadow of his former DPOY self. Like I said the Heat played bad, LeBron tried to let Wade be the number one option and it didn’t work.
U Mean IT,Love and wade with drose last year? I wouldnt say they took over the league. They were like 5th in the weak east, 29th defense and struggling to share the ball.
shoutrightnow wait but they made it to the finals right? Also you talking about IT the overrated gimp midget who played like 4 games in Cleveland? Also washed up Dwayne wade who played like half a season there? Also the part time all star Kevin love? And Derrick Rose the guy who gets a ankle injury like every week and left Cleveland by the trade deadline? You talking about those guys? They don’t sound like much help no wonder why lebron had to carry so much that season.
@@legoatjames2740 they didnt make to the finals cause half the team got traded in february.U are wrong my dude. "Washed up" wade was the best player in miami in the playoff that same year and this season too (not out of the playoff run in march like lebron), IT got injuried against this year, d rose was the best player in minnie playoffs and about to make all star game this year. Crawford is again decisive player in utah and the Key to win their only game against the rockets and did great in last year playoffs. The only ones that made it to the finals of that group are lebron and love after surpassing in 7 games the celtics without their 2 best player and the pacers .and in that finals they got SWEPT.Love in that finals averaged 19 and 11. In the last 2 finals they have a total record of 1-8 (kyrie won that game), they have won in 2 finals just one game less than the clippers this year against gs.With 0 all star.
@@hawks19_65 jordan would've gotten swept in the first round like he usually does when he has no help and no scottie pippen lol. I'd like to see jordan win a playoff game when only one of his teammates made more than two shots
@@king_charlemagne9150 MJ predicted the game, he asked Kerr to take it. Thats the genius of MJ. He also predicted, he will steal Karl Malone's last posession and he wants longley to cover him. Nobody in the NBA has ever come close, that bold of winning a championship. Which championship game kukuc win it for MJ?
KD is already bored because the game is way too easy in the West, let alone the East where they don't even try. Then you give him Kyrie, Love, Jr, Shumpert Thompson, and more. Easiest route to the finals and only competition is a tired out finals team.
Skip calling Steph, Klay and Draymond weak is obscene. I watched Klay rip the hearts out of KD and Russ in the WCF. KD decided to join the Warriors after watching Steph nail that game winner in OKC and demoralizing the entire OKC team.
Kevin and LeBron are completely different stylisticly. Kevin will break records, but he won't be breaking LeBron's records. My question is can Kevin do what LeBron did with the Cavs?
Corpy Hogan no, I was woke. And if in 2016 KD got the injury of bogut and suspension of green for a close out game 5 he won too. Also being the one who initiated the contact to get green suspended and let’s not forget the league stepping in and fouling curry out game 6 when he hadn’t fouled out at all - none that year until then. Yes KD could definitely do that bogus title in 2016 with Kyrie, Love, JR. Smith etc
This has nothing to do with KD. All ya'll is missing the point. Who do Skip loves the most, MJ. And the fact that ppl compares LBJ to MJ makes him upset. This beef with LBJ is bigger than KD. He just uses KD's name for a cover up...
Yung mulla fine AF.. 😍from the UK.. BUT back to the point..you are correct and let's not forget skip made his career shitting on LeBron and blowing Timothy Tebow
They forget that KD gets to play 1 on 1 meanwhile Jordan and Kobe had double coverage. Imagine if you put LeBron on GSW instead of KD... No way LeBrons getting double covered
Just another example of how the media tries to play the narrative. The sad part is KD fans are going to try to run with that too because realistically he has no real ties to GS just like LeBron didn't have any with Miami.
coolio33388 Exactly when the Warriors 73 win season the media kept saying one of the best teams of all time and Steph being the greatest shooter of all time and now they wanna back pedal nothing new ig
BeingWokeTV That’s plenty. They have two former MVPs in their primes(meaning they are both playing amazing) and a former DPOY. Not to mention a great wing shooter and some good role players. That’s more than any other team in history has had.
Doni Evan's you guys who make this arguement are silly lol check the games without Durant carrying them they lost the first 2 games they won and thats facts. Durant carried them 2/3 of that series.
Dominique Tucker Portland isn’t as good as Houston. Klay handled Lillard no Durant against Houston when Harden was going for 40-50 to keep the score close and they would have lost.
Doni Evan's That is what happens when your team actually runs a real offensive system. Unlike Lebron’s team who almost lost to the Pacers in the first round.
This segment is fantastic to come back to in 2021. Everything skip said, he completely contradicts during the 2021 playoff and when the bucks win the championship. Skip extending that bias to try to diminish yet another player.
The Reel TV They were a great team but that wasn’t an upset. The Cavs were considered the most talented team prior to that season starting. The Cavs were favored to win before that regular season.
@@Wavystarj thats not true the whole story around tht finals was if curry can beat a fully healthy cavs team bc the prior season kyrie and love were both hurt
All skips argument is based on "What If." But cool thing, when shannon reply "What if everything goes right for Lebron and he goes 9-0 in the finals." Then skip change the perception again.
What if LeBron James Never lost in the finals? What if Jordan Lost Every Finals He competed? What if Kobe wasn't stole by the lakers in the draft and stayed in the hornets? What If NBA never existed? This What If predictions are just pure nonsense at all.
Nate Pehrson hahaa yes it does. The only reason they won by 4 is because LBJ hit 1 of 2 free throws. If Kyrie missed, another position and if GSW scores game is over. They only fouled LBJ because they were behind after Kyrie’s shot.
I'm usually hating on LeBron, I'll admit that... but Skip is wrong here. 1) Cleveland v San Antonio, was a done deal before it even started. 2) Heat v. Dallas, yes Heat should've won that. 3) Heat v. OKC, he got the win he should've gotten 4) Heat v. Spurs, pretty even matchup, Heat won 5) Heat v. Spurs, pretty even matchup, Spurs won 6) Cavs v. Warriors, would've been a fair match if the Cavs hadn't lost Kyrie AND Love. LeBron was by himself. 7) Cavs v. Warriors, kinda even matchup Cavs win. 8) Cavs v. Warriors, KD joins Steph, Klay, Draymond, and Iggy. Cavs lose. 9) Cavs v. Warriors, Bron by himself again. Cavs lose. Aside from the Dallas series, you cannot really pick at his finals record. Especially in his Cavs years. To be honest, the only time in Cleveland where he ever had a fair matchup, he won the title, and Cleveland was the underdog. In Miami, he probably should've won 3, but whatever. He got 2/4. KD has never been in a finals where he was not the favorite. Think about that. He was asked to carry OKC one time when Westbrook got injured, and he couldn't even take them past the semis.
Well if you think Heat should have beaten Dallas, then by that token Heat should have lost to Spurs in 2013. So it could have easily been 1/4 in Miami.
@Sam Garza Yep, I made the same point about losing to Spurs in 2013. Also why should the Heat have beaten Dallas? Lebron didn't know how to win yet so he was still immature. Dirk was on fire and at his peak. That series didn't even go 7 games so you can't say the Heat "should have won".
@Sam Garza That's why I don't agree with folks that said what KD did in joining GS was the same as Lebron forming his team in Miami. First of all, building a team no matter who you collect as players is always harder than joining an established team. Chemistry takes time to develop. Secondly, the Heat were a self-proclaimed superteam/juggernaut but the data suggests otherwise. 2/4 in finals and very well could have been 1/4 with no future after 2014...that's hardly dynasty material. GS on the otherhand with KD is 2-0 and may threepeat and no one has yet to step up to beat them yet in a 7 game series. So they so far are "unbeatable". The Heat lost that distinction after their first year!
Death Yes he did by the best team of all time. Replace LeBron with anyone and they getting swept. He dominated the East for a reason. Warriors will have made 5 straight. They have a team perfectly built together ( not this season)
Kevin Anthony 7 games against a Celtics team without their two stars? How many times has he gone to seven against trash teams. He did dominate for a reason. Because the east was trash. He goes to the west and can’t even make the playoffs with a better team then he has had in Cleveland.
Firstly, not all rings are equal. LeBron's championship with the Cavs after 52 years is worth more than his Miami rings. And worth 4 times KD's GSW rings. But individually: MVPS: LeBron 4, KD 1 All-NBA First Teams: LeBron 13 (most in nba history), KD 6 All-NBA Defense Teams: LeBron 6, KD 0 Career PPG: LeBron (barely LBJ, both average just above 27 ppg)....and LBJ is already the playoffs leading scorer APG: LeBron...also the only player in nba history top 10 in BOTH points and assists RPG: LeBron Steals PG: LeBron Blocks PG: KD Career PER: LeBron (2nd all-time behind MJ) Box Plus Minus: LeBron (1st all-time) Win shares: LeBron (4th all-time)
Kacey Rodriguez not true you bronsexual. That cavs ring was bought you fool waits until Kylie becomes an all star trades away the #1 pick for an all star in Kevin love. Trades for key role players. Your queen is overrated and is not top10. Give me KD a non ball hog who is better offensively and defensively
SIN fg percentage is barely more but KD shoots from a wider range. Finals appearance from being on a stacked team in a weak conference. Playoff game winners? KD didn’t find himself in that position too often but we saw what happened the last 2 game 3’s of the finals.
The Flash 2024 Wade is better than Klay Thompson. Can agree with you on that. But Dwayne Wade isn’t better than or equal to 2 KLAY THOMPSONS. That’s a whole stretch and Skip is bugging for saying that.
LMAO this "greatest run of his career" that KD is on: 2018-19 KD playoff PER: 27.7 LeBron CAREER playoff PER: 28.3 What KD is doing now is literally below LeBron's career playoff average.
@@whitemamba-ct7xc You get more wins and better defensive ratings playing against mostly East teams genius. Didnt the Hawks win 60 with Bud? Yea such a GREAT team smh
Shawn Cannon Lebron is good but he aint better then Jordan or Kobe. Lebron is 3rd and will be unless he wins a title in LA that is the only way he will be considered #2 the reason Kobe is better is simple.
Kinda crazy how curry went from potential best player in the league to being ignored in the convos and it was through no fault of his own lol because kd decided he wanted some free rings
@Kenny Strawser ha ha i didn't say it was identical situation. but lebron joined forces with two of the other best players in the league and then got the best shooter in the history of the game on their team at that time. Maybe you need to raise your frequency bruh. lol
@Kenny Strawser don't need to be helped.....the bottom line is you can't say the KD/Warriors situation was a fraud and not say the James/Heat situation isn't a fraud. Lebron started this superstar movement several years ago and he has wrought this. can't call championships frauds when you're the one who started it.
@@TV-ob1if you probably dont realize that miami heat team wasnt even the favorite in some of their finals. GSW was the heavy favorite. there is a massive difference.
Because KD ruined his relationship with the media. Skip now hates KD more than LeBron now tbh. Although these guys troll back in forth Shannon doesnt actually believe Bron is better than MJ and Skip doesnt believe Bron is some overrated bum who didn't even pass Kobe yet lol
The94thbrotherhood why can’t you compare the two. Bosh was like the first stretch 5. He was a perennial all star. Wade a top 3 player. Both transcendent players. Why is that laughable?
God Of All Anime News No it isn’t a valid point. God forbid teammates actually trying to make a shot that would help the team win a game. What was Ray Allen or Kyrie Supposed to do, throw the ball out of bounds because Bron didn’t take the last shot? Everybody contributes in different areas and different parts in the game Lol
@@DaQuavious408 he has to be about young af or a different type of special. hes not even worth responding to because I highly believe he cant be involved in a rational conversation
Bruh lol. People actually like his takes. Do they not realize that this is a debate show? He's saying these things to go against what Unc is saying. Most of what he says, he doesn't even believe lol.
Might sound like disrespect but Hakeem has my top 10 AND HE IS LIGHTYEARS AHEAD INFRONT OF KD IN TERMS OF GREATNESS he has to pass WilT and some other guys too this is my top 10 list btw 10.Hakeem 9.Duncan 8.Bird 7.Kobe 6.Shaq 5.Bill Russel 4.Magic Johnson 3.LBJ 2.Kareem 1.Jordan
They forget that KD gets to play 1 on 1 meanwhile Jordan and Kobe had double coverage. Imagine if you put LeBron on GSW instead of KD... No way LeBrons getting double covered
Lol if lebron was on the gsw... they would get first round exit... lebron is not a great shooter. He commands the ball 90% of the time. Nobody would be involved. Lebron cant play iso ball, one of the worst offensive skill player in history for superstars.
LeBron's team always been way more stacked than any other in the league. GSWs is a bunch of drafted players that other teams didn't even want. Draymond went in the 2nd round. Miami cHeats had like 8 Superstars on a paycut bigger than the salary cap.
Guess he played iso ball in okc too huh averaging 27-29 pretty much effortlessly throughout his tenure in Okc . y’all really be acting like he became this offensive juggernaut cuz he in Golden state and cuz of curry and klay and blah blah blah . dude nobody could guard him in okc either lol yeah he didn’t win like he is now but kds game NO BODY EVER HAD TO QUESTION
William Brooks he’s been to 9 from the weak eastern conference I believe you. First season in west and don’t make playoffs. Smdh...maybe next year though
Not all rings are equal. 2016 Bron chip >>>>> KD's rings 2011 Dirk chip >>>>>> KD's rings 2006 Wade chip >>>>> KD's rings 2010 Kobe chip >>>>> KD's rings KD was never the engine of a championship team. That credit goes to Steph Curry who imho is being undervalued because of KD.
Help me understand on why people think kd a snake idk much of basketball but I know he was a FA when he chose to go to GS so idk how that makes him a snake
2015 finals and 2016 finals champs both deserve asterisks to some degree...I guess 2016 finals seem remarkable when having tunnel vision though I can't denied it was a feel good story.
Dar Eus the video is talking about Lebron, any idiot knows he didn’t do it by himself. Kyrie played a huge part, Love and JR also. Warrior fans will always talk about Green getting suspended, and that’s how the Cavs won. Dramond should’ve been suspended in the OKC series for kicking Adams nuts.
skips arguments get worse every time I watch this show. such a hater when it comes to lebron. both are amazing players but skip just can't ever give lebron credit
Yh Skip poor KD, stuck with Westbrook for 8 years with role players Harden and Ibaka along the way. While lucky LeBron was having the time of his life surrounded by all-stars in his first 7 years with the Cavs...
That 2016 OKC roster also had Oladipo, Kanter, Collision, Sabonis, Roberson, Steven Adams and decent auxiliary parts such as Taj Gibson, Doug Mcdermott(One of the best 3point shooters in the league and, analytically, the history of the NBA) and Illyasova. That team was stacked from top to bottom.
If you say career wise LeBron is better fine...but currently KD is better than LeBron... Every time KD and LeBron have matched up head to head, one on one in the past two finals, KD outclassed LeBron. Shot over him, crossed him up...blocked him.
It’s funny that ppl don’t remember before kid went to gsw when he had Westbrook and harden and bron had wade and bosh. Bron owned this guy before he joined the greatest backcourt shooting wise in nba history
L G R W yeah harden only averaged 17 off the bench and Westbrook only averaged 23 that year and he had a guy in Ibaka who lead the league in blocks.... poor Kd
Will Kevin Durant pass LeBron on the NBA's all-time great list?
Skip and Shannon: UNDISPUTED yes
Skip and Shannon: UNDISPUTED no
KayGoKrazy nope
No. Next.
Skip and Shannon: UNDISPUTED already has use your eye test.
Lebron beat the 73-9 team
KD joined the 73-9 team
Jn Mc and then destroyed Lebron in the last two Finals
@@paulwilliams2024 That's why he joined the 73-9 team! The only way to destroy Lebron.
Eric Lind facts
TruMusic89 How about the next year. GS had the best regular season record and won it all.
EXACTLY LOL PUSSIE
"Never ever in his long legged life have he done that" 😂😂😂 Shannon funny asf
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That joint had me rolling
I nearly spat out pieces of my chocolate muffin
@@xxxlostxxxxx lol there tryna compare a speeding ticket to an arm robbery 💀😭😂
Poetik Sweat he should of said long armed because he can touch his kneecaps standing straight
LeBron cant win a chip in the first 7 years in Cleveland,
Skip Bayless: "He always needs help"
Durant can't win a chip in OKC,
Skip Bayless: "He was STUCK" lmao clown
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Ralphunreal still the 🐐
A Cato C he is not the 🐐 but stil better all time than KD
A Cato C lmfaooooo you mean The GLOAT right
KD couldnt play his game though with Russ? Just like Paul George can’t either
“Bron melted down in the 2018 Finals right on schedule”
Averaged 34, 10, and 8.5
Here comes the stats zombie,where's the ring ??
Lebron is a stat padder, he knows his fans Will use his stats to defend his 6 L
@@gianmagrine3947 I mean if he doesn't put up those stats cavs ain't getting nothing
Gian Magrine no one in NBA history other than a prime MJ would be able to beat those Warriors with that Cavs team. And even MJ, I’m unsure if he could do it, but he’d probably have the best shot.
@@scopeworth7781 shaq would,prime duncan spurs could,Showtime lakers could,this Warriors team is not this demon that you guys portray,their defense is pathetic and offensively they are also limited,with a post up Guy like duncan,shaq their defense would fall easy
"They're trying to compare a speeding ticket to armed robbery" Shannon
Do you ever get tired of quoting what they say everyday for likes? Every damn video 😂😂😂 like stop wasting your time I'm tryna help u
Jason Caban do you ever get tired of using emojis like a 12 year old girl?
Hes right 2 and 1 in the finals is way better than 3 and 6. Lebumb should be 2 and 7 in the finals or 1 and 8 if ray didnt save him. Sad this steroid using bum is considered a goat lmao. Kd, Kobe and jordan are way better than bron not even an argument.
@@War_Maker What's wrong with being a 12 y/o girl?
@@PureNathan96 u mad bro?
I noticed skip does a lot of what if's when it comes to LeBron but for no other athlete
It's so annoying bro
It's so annoying bro
He has an irrational hate for LeBron because Skip is too romantic when it comes to sports. Analytics and reality doesn't come first for Skip, Skip uses analytics to support or hurt guys who he agrees with philosophically. Shannon is way more analytical and objective.
LeBron has his eyes outside of the game, he wants to become a billionaire, and take over industry. All Jordan cared about was the game, winning, and being the best, and doing it ruthlessly and aggressively. That's why Skip will always support Jordan over LeBron, because of Jordan's romantic obsession with winning and competing, has nothing to do with who ACTUALLY is the best.
It's because you fanboys come with infinite excuses for him.
Last Of The Starmakers Sure that’s the reason skip does it Lol
"In his long legged life" - Shannon Sharpe
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😂😂😂😂 I was praying somebody else caught that. People can disagree with Shannon but his jokes are solid .
Omm Shannon caught a body wit that comment 😭😭😭
Just a tremendous comment by Shannon.
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"NEVERR EVER in his Long Legged Life has he done that" 😭😭😂
Funny ASF.....🤭🤭😅😅😅😅
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skip is always talking about "prisoner of the moment" arguments
how ironic,...
They forget that KD gets to play 1 on 1 meanwhile Jordan and Kobe had double coverage. Imagine if you put LeBron on GSW instead of KD... No way LeBrons getting double covered
We all know what this guy is without the curry effect
Goat Man Goat Man Ringless
Aamer C Jordan didn’t get doubled but there were hand checks... I guess they’re the same
TimothyKK Jordan did get doubled it just didn’t mean anything he was that nice 😂
LeBron won 2012 NBA Championship by beating OKC 4-1 in the Finals. Yet Skip argues he was 9 seconds away from losing the series 😂😂 next level hate
On God...Skip really pisses me off with all this hate
The games were competitive thoe
Lebron won?? Or the heat won?
Scoop N Score So why does skip says lebron is 3-6 in the finals ??? like if it was his fault
PRESIDENTIAL idk why skip bayless does anything. I’m not responsible for him. I’m asking if lebron won or the heat won. Damn skip
Shannon Sharpe: *says anything*
Skip: hmm. mmm. hmm. mmm
Just noticed it 😂😂😂😂💯👌
I hate that noise
Anish Sabnis 😂
My mother passed ... skip: mm
"Long legged life" nah im dead🤣🤣
I died too
SInce we doing IF's...what if KD NEVER went to Golden State...we wouldn't be having this discussion at all. *Endgame*
What if Portland drafted Kevin Durant?
What if Seattle ran the ball?
Same if lebron went to miami. Lmao
Michael Bellamy
Wait?
I thought LBJ fans love using the “what if” game? Or does it only apply to MJ when trying to discredit him?
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Y'all noticed how many "ifs" Skip used to try to prove his point? Lo 😂
Top10In TheWorld Facts
Skip liked to move the goal post when he argues about anything.
Bron haters gotta come at you with the “ifs” because they know past the FT % and Bron choosing too pass off instead of taking the big shot (even though Brons hit buzzer beaters back in the day and hits crazy clutch shots all the time.) Brons Top 2 All-Time. Where he is in those two is up to you.
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Not as many as lebron fans use to defend losing 6 out of 9 finals lol 🤷♂️
Dude Draymond had a 30 point triple double in 2016 , wtf Skip talking about?
Donkeys the 2nd most overrated player in the league after Westbrick.
KD even being in the convo is a joke. I'm.not some Lebron dickrider either. Just look what happens when he left Miami and Cleveland. They instantly became bottom 5 teams. OKC has been just fine since LD left
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@@banquetmeal663 okc just fine, lol they ant made out of the 1st round since he left 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@banquetmeal663 Okc 3 straight first round exit, but they're "fine" without KD...
"He'll go to the east and start dominating there" - skip bayless
This did not age well at all. Lost to bucks in 7 then come back next year to just get swept
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Shannon you chewed Skip up again. Skips rebutted is nonsense. Shannon stay Sharpe my friend.
Skip Is hating on and diminishing Steph Curry to enhance is argument that KD is going to surpass Lebron...smh
Uh oh... Curry fans unite yourselves quick!! Hurry up so Skip can see!! 💀
Bball 33 What? Lmao
Yeah, he ignores the fact that Curry pretty much draws double teams due to his range and off ball movement
Corpy Hogan stop watching Naruto and read my comment it's not rocket science. It's like all y'all fans want the media to say Curry is the best player in the world.. You can't seriously believe that right???????
I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility for KD to do it.
Maybe, maybe not. He will still be considered one of the best for sure though.
Shannon: ‘You never say who won the game when Jordan hit 63!’
Skip: ...
Shannon be tearing the Fur off Skip, I love this show!
@TruMusic89 Jordan was making the playoffs with losing team records. Lebron was missing the playoffs with a better team record than Jordan, so there's that.
does it matter? everyone knows Jordan lost that game but putting 63 against hall of famers loaded team in a playoff game is impresive! It is still a record until today
Terry Y so it’s not impressive when lebron does it right
@@Viciousthedark I can tell u never see MJ plays
Skip:”lebron is not going to win another championship”
Lebron now: 4 games away
bruh. Skip and the haters will say he only won because of the bubble environment, the west was weak and AD. Look these people always do the same if Lebron wins, its because the refs, luck, NBA is rigged, his teammates. When Lebron loses, its all on him, Lebron choked. When MJ won it had nothing to do with Pippen or Phil Jackson it is 100% on MJ. Lebron is the most hated NBA all-time great in HISTORY. Imagine how good he has been that despite all that hate and the 4-6 media narrative. He is still in the Mount Rushmore of basketball
Yup lets go
1 day away
Done ✅
Like Lil Flip said, GAME OVER.
durant will NEVER pass lebron. this topic sounds like "can 5 miles ever become longer than 10 miles?"
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he already better than lebron so what is your point
Goatbe Bryant he’s not a better defender, all he’s got on lebron is a jumper and rings that he mostly won because of shaq
Butthurt lebron fan LOL.
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This is a laughable topic, KD could never take those Cleveland teams to the finals like Bron did.
@Lucas Walker lol that's your pathetic argument? Lebron missed 28 games last year and when he came back half of the team is injured too. They were 4th seed before he went down.
I wonder what you're thinking now that Lebron is about to win another ring 😂
Lucas Walker No one has ever won a ring without another top tier player and good role players on their team, that’s why championships are TEAM achievements not individual achievements.
Lucas Walker the Heat played awful that series and Golden States’ two best players were out, there’s always exemptions to a rule?
Your examples are 2 of 73 championships.
Lucas Walker Klay went down in that series, Cousins was hurt, Curry has never had a great finals series and Green was a shadow of his former DPOY self.
Like I said the Heat played bad, LeBron tried to let Wade be the number one option and it didn’t work.
Also we’ve just seen what Kawhi does against a healthy team when he’s asked to lead and play both ends of the court.
Taking over the league with 3 other all stars in his starting lineup 😂 and a former finals mvp coming off the bench
😂😂😂 facts
U Mean IT,Love and wade with drose last year? I wouldnt say they took over the league. They were like 5th in the weak east, 29th defense and struggling to share the ball.
shoutrightnow wait but they made it to the finals right? Also you talking about IT the overrated gimp midget who played like 4 games in Cleveland? Also washed up Dwayne wade who played like half a season there? Also the part time all star Kevin love? And Derrick Rose the guy who gets a ankle injury like every week and left Cleveland by the trade deadline? You talking about those guys? They don’t sound like much help no wonder why lebron had to carry so much that season.
Thank you 😂
@@legoatjames2740 they didnt make to the finals cause half the team got traded in february.U are wrong my dude. "Washed up" wade was the best player in miami in the playoff that same year and this season too (not out of the playoff run in march like lebron), IT got injuried against this year, d rose was the best player in minnie playoffs and about to make all star game this year. Crawford is again decisive player in utah and the Key to win their only game against the rockets and did great in last year playoffs. The only ones that made it to the finals of that group are lebron and love after surpassing in 7 games the celtics without their 2 best player and the pacers .and in that finals they got SWEPT.Love in that finals averaged 19 and 11. In the last 2 finals they have a total record of 1-8 (kyrie won that game), they have won in 2 finals just one game less than the clippers this year against gs.With 0 all star.
“He scored 51”.
“He melted down right on schedule.”
Inside the mind of a LeBron hater.
Lmfao right????
i mean at the end of the day he got swept. he should’ve won that if u replace mj with lebron in that 2018 finals i’d say cavs in 6
@@hawks19_65 MJ is not beating KD, Curry, Thompson, and Green with Love as his second best player.
@@justt7767 easy mj would’ve cooked them all there’s a reason y he’s the greatest scorer in nba history. lebron can’t score easily the way mj did
@@hawks19_65 jordan would've gotten swept in the first round like he usually does when he has no help and no scottie pippen lol. I'd like to see jordan win a playoff game when only one of his teammates made more than two shots
Skip always have the weakest argument against lebron. Dude is funny.
Don Sulit they just gotta make the show interesting, I really don’t think he believes any of it
At least I hope he doesn’t
Dude said they would have went to over time knowing lebron will hit a game winner!😂
Michael M he definitely does. Skip has been a Lebron hater since the very beginning
Skips argument against lebron are always what if lebron never stats
If he stays with GSW, Nope. If he can make a team like the Knicks, Clippers or Wizards win a couple of titles then the debate could be there.
Not any more
COULD be...lol
More than jus chips tho. If he makes his team BETTER as LBJ ALWAYS has & win chips...THEN the debate could be possible...
@@marcrichardson517 an a couple of mvps
Not even then
@@TheLuscious that’s why I said COULD...lol
Nobody:
Not a single soul:
Skip: ''What if LeBron played baseball?''
thats not the point. Lebron was bailed out by ray allen and kyrie.
@@MrDotaleavers Jordan was bailed out by Kerr and Kukoc
@@king_charlemagne9150 MJ predicted the game, he asked Kerr to take it. Thats the genius of MJ. He also predicted, he will steal Karl Malone's last posession and he wants longley to cover him. Nobody in the NBA has ever come close, that bold of winning a championship.
Which championship game kukuc win it for MJ?
dota leavers lmao that’s what you going with?
@@king_charlemagne9150 and paxton in the 1993 finals game 6.
"Never ever in his long legged life has he done that" HAHAHAHA Shannon making debates always with humor. Funny af 😂😂
Put kd on the Cavs and Lebron on the warriors and we’ll see what would of happened
KD on the Heat? Mavs would have zero championships
cavs will go to finals easily....they have better team than the lakers...
KD is already bored because the game is way too easy in the West, let alone the East where they don't even try. Then you give him Kyrie, Love, Jr, Shumpert Thompson, and more. Easiest route to the finals and only competition is a tired out finals team.
Put KD on the heat and they would’ve won 4 times in a row 🤷🏾♂️
@@danielmuhreno4715 www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbssports.com/nba/news/2012-nba-finals-thunder-favored-by-vegas-oddsmakers/amp/ 🙄
Skip calling Steph, Klay and Draymond weak is obscene. I watched Klay rip the hearts out of KD and Russ in the WCF. KD decided to join the Warriors after watching Steph nail that game winner in OKC and demoralizing the entire OKC team.
Sal Martinez true 👌👌👌👌
I thought green called kd crying too join them but okay
Kevin and LeBron are completely different stylisticly. Kevin will break records, but he won't be breaking LeBron's records.
My question is can Kevin do what LeBron did with the Cavs?
Team up with Kyrie and Love and a bunch of shooters and lose to a superior Western team? I think he could definitely do that
Bball 33 I guess you were asleep in 2016 Lol
In the east ..... Yea bro ... name one player other then KL that’s going to stop him ...
Corpy Hogan no, I was woke. And if in 2016 KD got the injury of bogut and suspension of green for a close out game 5 he won too. Also being the one who initiated the contact to get green suspended and let’s not forget the league stepping in and fouling curry out game 6 when he hadn’t fouled out at all - none that year until then. Yes KD could definitely do that bogus title in 2016 with Kyrie, Love, JR. Smith etc
Munoken 23 you’re kidding right? He took the warriors to 7 games with dellavedova as the next best player
LeBron - arguably the GOAT
KD - Never been compared to being the GOAT or even better than magic.
If KD wins with the nets he’ll be top 3-5 coming from a Lebron Fan
@@user-hq4uv1kf4s but number 1 is the GOAT not 3-5
@@nikolairodriguez9088 ik I’m just saying by the end of KD career he can be the GOAT 🐐
@@user-hq4uv1kf4s KD is not a two way player he will never be the goat, and his accolades are terrible without GS he wouldn’t even be top 25
@@wkeyz851 he has 4 scoring titles 2 rings 2 finals MVP, and after his tenure with the nets he will have 5 rings and 5 finals mvp..
Skip hates Lebron so much he like to talk down on Steph klay and Draymond to make it sound like Kevin Durant ain’t playing with good players
Yung Mulla exactlyyyyyy
Thank you, he does this all of the time
This has nothing to do with KD. All ya'll is missing the point. Who do Skip loves the most, MJ. And the fact that ppl compares LBJ to MJ makes him upset. This beef with LBJ is bigger than KD. He just uses KD's name for a cover up...
Yung mulla fine AF.. 😍from the UK.. BUT back to the point..you are correct and let's not forget skip made his career shitting on LeBron and blowing Timothy Tebow
KD drop 50 in the first round against 8th seed: OMG he the goat
LeBron drop 50 in the finals against the JUSTICE League: he suppose 2 do that 🤦♂
This gotta be the most disrespectful topic of all time lmao
How?
Not really KD better than lebron now
The Messenger he isn’t close win on ur own
@@OMGitsLucas69 LeBron has never won on his own
@@osoarrogant9785 Lmao , this topic shouldn't exist , you Lebron Haters are wayyyyyy too crazyy !!!
The disrespect not just towards LeBron but towards Kobe also! 🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️
Kobe😂😂 pff just stop it
@@GEICO316 all great players put kobe ahead of lebron anyway, kobe is still 2
GEICO316 you think KD is better than Kobe 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Kobe is barely top 10.
Kobe isn't in the convo with lebron or mj
Seeing this when Lebron is up 3-1 against the heat in the finals. “Can’t add to his legacy” 😂
👌🏻👌🏻💯💯
Crazy how open the court becomes when you have the 2 BEST SHOOTERS IN THE HISTORY OF THE NBA on your team....
Yep
Does the court open up when they don't hit their shots and they can't get open?
They forget that KD gets to play 1 on 1 meanwhile Jordan and Kobe had double coverage. Imagine if you put LeBron on GSW instead of KD... No way LeBrons getting double covered
Last Of The Starmakers yea because they still can drop 20 at any moment
@@lastofthestarmakers6800 they parted the red Sea for this man to get back to the promise land... Foh
Skip makes the most mentally challenged arguments about LeBron!!!! SMH!!
I love how phrases that lmao
U must be the 10% that believes a speeding ticket is more of a crime than an armed robbery
Shannon said...”Kevin Durant came up shorter than Vern Toya”...I think he meant Verne Troyer aka Mini Me...😂😂😂😂
Short short shorty!!!! 🤣
OMG SKIP JUST ADMITTED THAT LEBRON IS THE SECOND GREATEST PLAYER EVER I CAN'T BELIEVE IT
i thought i was the only one
This dude Skip really said Golden State is overrated in star power 💀
Just another example of how the media tries to play the narrative. The sad part is KD fans are going to try to run with that too because realistically he has no real ties to GS just like LeBron didn't have any with Miami.
coolio33388 Exactly when the Warriors 73 win season the media kept saying one of the best teams of all time and Steph being the greatest shooter of all time and now they wanna back pedal nothing new ig
They lost alot of depth to get KD. Right now, it's just a big 3. KD,Curry,Klay (Draymond isn't a allstar & Boogie is injured)
he said the 2016 warriors where
BeingWokeTV That’s plenty. They have two former MVPs in their primes(meaning they are both playing amazing) and a former DPOY. Not to mention a great wing shooter and some good role players. That’s more than any other team in history has had.
That stats reading from Shannon 😂 I died “5-Nothing” BRONNN!!!
Rayshad Miller ik 😂
Sounded like an Electric shock
Hey skip. THE warriors sent home Houston. While Kd was at home
James Hardens bs only works in reg season. Refs didn’t help Harden this time.
Doni Evan's you guys who make this arguement are silly lol check the games without Durant carrying them they lost the first 2 games they won and thats facts. Durant carried them 2/3 of that series.
And they swept Portland
Dominique Tucker Portland isn’t as good as Houston. Klay handled Lillard no Durant against Houston when Harden was going for 40-50 to keep the score close and they would have lost.
Doni Evan's That is what happens when your team actually runs a real offensive system. Unlike Lebron’s team who almost lost to the Pacers in the first round.
This segment is fantastic to come back to in 2021. Everything skip said, he completely contradicts during the 2021 playoff and when the bucks win the championship. Skip extending that bias to try to diminish yet another player.
Until KD can lock up a unanimous MVP on a crucial possession in a game 7 of the finals, he ain't even surpass me yet.
Lmao
God likes a trier..... lol
Until LBJ can lock up KD and win a finals against him your point is futile
Arquis Fisher but Lebron did win a finals against kd
KD is the MVP every game 😅
This team goes 73-9 and skip says they’ve been overrated with star power 😂
The Reel TV They were a great team but that wasn’t an upset. The Cavs were considered the most talented team prior to that season starting. The Cavs were favored to win before that regular season.
Join Me Traveling you are incredibly stupid the warriors were favored to win it before the season even started
@@Wavystarj thats not true the whole story around tht finals was if curry can beat a fully healthy cavs team bc the prior season kyrie and love were both hurt
No the warriors were favored every step of the way and I can send you a link if you're too stupid to research it yourself.
@@ezrasmith3389 ur wrong my friend
I've notice the things that Skip Bayless criticize LeBron James for, he praises Tom Brady for, when it comes to being great or winning.
Eric Reed they both flip flop on because lebrons like Brady, and KD is like Rodgers in those analogies. But they both can’t see the hypocrisy 😂
Brady: 6-3 in Super Bowls
Lebron: 3-6 in Finals
Mister3Smiley LBJ never had to cheat tho
@@Exile97 how is LeBron like Brady?
U R ABSOLUTELY RIGHT MY FRIEND...HE CONTRADICTS HIMSELF SO MUCH ITS PATHETIC
I like when Skip only use the “what if” when it come to LBJ but not other players. Skip is a straight up hater man
SKIP IS A STR8 HATER ON LEBRON 🤔🤔🤔😂😂😂
All skips argument is based on "What If."
But cool thing, when shannon reply "What if everything goes right for Lebron and he goes 9-0 in the finals." Then skip change the perception again.
@Dr Dickinson
So you like to play What If.
Now, What if Lebron never got to NBA. Endgame
@Dr Dickinson well the Cavs won by more than 3 so technically kryies shot doesn't mean squat
@Dr Dickinson What if KD didn't join the Warriors to give him easiest rings in the NBA history?
What if LeBron James Never lost in the finals?
What if Jordan Lost Every Finals He competed?
What if Kobe wasn't stole by the lakers in the draft and stayed in the hornets?
What If NBA never existed?
This What If predictions are just pure nonsense at all.
Nate Pehrson hahaa yes it does. The only reason they won by 4 is because LBJ hit 1 of 2 free throws. If Kyrie missed, another position and if GSW scores game is over. They only fouled LBJ because they were behind after Kyrie’s shot.
KD being better than LeBron is like saying Paul Pierce is better than DWade
lmao facts
L
Eric na you way off with that statement should said KD being better than Lebron is like saying Lebron better than Jordan.
Yeah those Libra’s can’t touch Capricorn goats !!!
not at all
I'm usually hating on LeBron, I'll admit that... but Skip is wrong here.
1) Cleveland v San Antonio, was a done deal before it even started.
2) Heat v. Dallas, yes Heat should've won that.
3) Heat v. OKC, he got the win he should've gotten
4) Heat v. Spurs, pretty even matchup, Heat won
5) Heat v. Spurs, pretty even matchup, Spurs won
6) Cavs v. Warriors, would've been a fair match if the Cavs hadn't lost Kyrie AND Love. LeBron was by himself.
7) Cavs v. Warriors, kinda even matchup Cavs win.
8) Cavs v. Warriors, KD joins Steph, Klay, Draymond, and Iggy. Cavs lose.
9) Cavs v. Warriors, Bron by himself again. Cavs lose.
Aside from the Dallas series, you cannot really pick at his finals record. Especially in his Cavs years. To be honest, the only time in Cleveland where he ever had a fair matchup, he won the title, and Cleveland was the underdog.
In Miami, he probably should've won 3, but whatever. He got 2/4.
KD has never been in a finals where he was not the favorite. Think about that. He was asked to carry OKC one time when Westbrook got injured, and he couldn't even take them past the semis.
This comment is GOLD!
Well if you think Heat should have beaten Dallas, then by that token Heat should have lost to Spurs in 2013. So it could have easily been 1/4 in Miami.
@Sam Garza Yep, I made the same point about losing to Spurs in 2013. Also why should the Heat have beaten Dallas? Lebron didn't know how to win yet so he was still immature. Dirk was on fire and at his peak. That series didn't even go 7 games so you can't say the Heat "should have won".
@Sam Garza That's why I don't agree with folks that said what KD did in joining GS was the same as Lebron forming his team in Miami. First of all, building a team no matter who you collect as players is always harder than joining an established team. Chemistry takes time to develop. Secondly, the Heat were a self-proclaimed superteam/juggernaut but the data suggests otherwise. 2/4 in finals and very well could have been 1/4 with no future after 2014...that's hardly dynasty material. GS on the otherhand with KD is 2-0 and may threepeat and no one has yet to step up to beat them yet in a 7 game series. So they so far are "unbeatable". The Heat lost that distinction after their first year!
Max 117 💯💯
Love watching these old Undisputed clips lmfao. This one did not age well for Skip or KD.
When KD can lead a squad of bums to the Finals, then we can talk.
Felix Felicis Exactly that Wat I'm saying
lebron was in a weak conference tho
@@christopherkb2432 Doesn't matter
@@EJINSANE yes it does he played in a weak conference thats why he was able to get to the finals
@@christopherkb2432 What makes the East weak?
Never.. Dude blew a 3-1 lead in the wcf then joined the team that beat him
Westbrick blew a 3-1 lead
Durant was worse than Westbrook in those last 3 games
Vu Pham excuses kd did too, he joined them after so he’s even more pathetic
22 Chad kd choked too stop making excuses for him, he joined them like a coward
@@kaywall2817 stay and lose or leave and win... staying a loser will always be more pathetic to me, just saying lol
What if LeBron was never born.....😂skipbaseless
then he never would've lost 6 NBA Finals
@@andycardenas3561
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How many you been too?!
@@sticktothescript8299 what a stupid question.
@@andycardenas3561 then skip would be working in a local sports channel hatin on a high school kid.....😂boron made his career#skip thankless#
Then the NBA would be completely boring
2:00 Never ever in his long legged life!..🤣🤣..priceless!!
Skip “Mhm” Bayless
call skip omelly aka roddy rich...ridin roun with v12 wit racks in the middle lol!
Skip:Over the last 2 years kd has taken over the league
Me:Am i the only one who saw the playoffs last season when lebron took over the playoffs
Rajeevi Hebbar Took over what? He got swept. SWEPT
Death dont matter he lead a trash team to the finals
Death Yes he did by the best team of all time. Replace LeBron with anyone and they getting swept. He dominated the East for a reason. Warriors will have made 5 straight. They have a team perfectly built together ( not this season)
Akeem Francis against other trash teams he went 7 games with a celtics team with 2 of their best players out
Kevin Anthony 7 games against a Celtics team without their two stars? How many times has he gone to seven against trash teams. He did dominate for a reason. Because the east was trash. He goes to the west and can’t even make the playoffs with a better team then he has had in Cleveland.
Firstly, not all rings are equal. LeBron's championship with the Cavs after 52 years is worth more than his Miami rings. And worth 4 times KD's GSW rings. But individually:
MVPS: LeBron 4, KD 1
All-NBA First Teams: LeBron 13 (most in nba history), KD 6
All-NBA Defense Teams: LeBron 6, KD 0
Career PPG: LeBron (barely LBJ, both average just above 27 ppg)....and LBJ is already the playoffs leading scorer
APG: LeBron...also the only player in nba history top 10 in BOTH points and assists
RPG: LeBron
Steals PG: LeBron
Blocks PG: KD
Career PER: LeBron (2nd all-time behind MJ)
Box Plus Minus: LeBron (1st all-time)
Win shares: LeBron (4th all-time)
THANK YOU!!! Also...
FG Percentage: LeBron
Playoff Game Winners: LeBron (most all time)
Finals Appearances: LeBron
Finals Wins: LeBron
Kacey Rodriguez not true you bronsexual. That cavs ring was bought you fool waits until Kylie becomes an all star trades away the #1 pick for an all star in Kevin love. Trades for key role players. Your queen is overrated and is not top10. Give me KD a non ball hog who is better offensively and defensively
@@TheAztecWarrior100 - :|
Kacey Rodriguez that rings equal is BS. No one cares about that Cavs ring except Cavs fans. Y’all wasn’t saying that until KD joined GSW.
SIN fg percentage is barely more but KD shoots from a wider range. Finals appearance from being on a stacked team in a weak conference. Playoff game winners? KD didn’t find himself in that position too often but we saw what happened the last 2 game 3’s of the finals.
Until KD get some hard rings he'll never pass up Lebron with that being said MJ still the Goat
Skip had to been the worst kid to argue with in elementary school 🤦🏽♂️
😂
“To me, Dwayne Wade equals 2 Warriors.”
SKIP. BRUH.
I know like wade is an all timer without a doubt but being better than the best shooter of all time + another top 10 all time shooter?
Dwyane Wade is better than Klay Thompson. If you're argument is Klay is better because he's a better shooter, then Ray Allen should be better
The Flash 2024 Wade is better than Klay Thompson. Can agree with you on that. But Dwayne Wade isn’t better than or equal to 2 KLAY THOMPSONS. That’s a whole stretch and Skip is bugging for saying that.
Yeah, skip don't like Curry either. That's what that is all about.
curry and kd are both better than dwade so 😂
LMAO this "greatest run of his career" that KD is on:
2018-19 KD playoff PER: 27.7
LeBron CAREER playoff PER: 28.3
What KD is doing now is literally below LeBron's career playoff average.
whitemamba1656 lebron played in the East. Stop.
@@DanteGoldz u mean against top 5 defenses his whole career? Look it up
also beat more 60 win teams and 70 win teams than that guy in ur photo.
@@whitemamba-ct7xc You get more wins and better defensive ratings playing against mostly East teams genius. Didnt the Hawks win 60 with Bud? Yea such a GREAT team smh
@@The_Gamers_Gamer better than the clippers LMAO
Did skip just admit LeBron is top 2
I heard that too. Now if called out about it hed say he mispoke. He just said the other day he had him number 9 all time.
That dude should be sued for slander, he really has made people think Lebron is not great smh
Bill Scott for the first time ever
Shawn Cannon Lebron is good but he aint better then Jordan or Kobe. Lebron is 3rd and will be unless he wins a title in LA that is the only way he will be considered #2 the reason Kobe is better is simple.
Z Gaming lebron is better than both of them
stop acting like the all the warriors players are garbage and KD carried them
fax
Preach! Skip acting like KD drugged the 07 Cavs to the finals! When seen how trash KD was in the playoffs the year Beaverly hurt Russ knee
The first game of the playoffs curry had like 38 and 15 and like 7... and klay went for like 50 didn’t he lmfao
Stop taking Skip so serious guys 😂😂😭 we know how he is.
Kd not even top 25 all time
Shannon: makes valid points
Skip: what if what if what if
Is this really a question 🤦♂️ My God Why do you hate Lebron so much Skip?
Skip always acting like its 1v1. KD has the two most fraudulent rings of all time.
Kinda crazy how curry went from potential best player in the league to being ignored in the convos and it was through no fault of his own lol because kd decided he wanted some free rings
Ok. So lebrons two Miami rings are fraudulent then. This argument can go both ways
@Kenny Strawser ha ha i didn't say it was identical situation. but lebron joined forces with two of the other best players in the league and then got the best shooter in the history of the game on their team at that time. Maybe you need to raise your frequency bruh. lol
@Kenny Strawser don't need to be helped.....the bottom line is you can't say the KD/Warriors situation was a fraud and not say the James/Heat situation isn't a fraud. Lebron started this superstar movement several years ago and he has wrought this. can't call championships frauds when you're the one who started it.
@@TV-ob1if you probably dont realize that miami heat team wasnt even the favorite in some of their finals. GSW was the heavy favorite. there is a massive difference.
Did Skip just say LeBron is the second greatest player of all time?? 3:26
Yeah he did, he finally broke character on live TV as a troll of LeBron.
JuuLeZz TryhardPolizei i mean he never hated LeBron, he just knows MJ was better.
Because KD ruined his relationship with the media. Skip now hates KD more than LeBron now tbh. Although these guys troll back in forth Shannon doesnt actually believe Bron is better than MJ and Skip doesnt believe Bron is some overrated bum who didn't even pass Kobe yet lol
No said he’s on his way to being the second best
Anthony he said Bron was 7th best last year
KD needed the first and third greatest shooters ever to do what he’s doing. He’s already blew a 3-1 lead also
TruMusic89 please tell me you’re not comparing wade and bosh to klay and curry😂
He didn’t need them to do wat he is doing bc he was doing it with okc they just didn’t win😂😂
Nijal Sanders he needed them
The94thbrotherhood why can’t you compare the two. Bosh was like the first stretch 5. He was a perennial all star. Wade a top 3 player. Both transcendent players. Why is that laughable?
and Lebron has gotten swept. The 3-1 lead argument is irrelevant.
Skip doing hypothetical for lebron being 0-9 is dumbest thing ever😂😂😂
why? pretty valid point
@@RTTVplug it's redicolous as it's all dealt in what ifs. If my aunt had balls she be my uncle!!
God Of All Anime News No it isn’t a valid point. God forbid teammates actually trying to make a shot that would help the team win a game. What was Ray Allen or Kyrie Supposed to do, throw the ball out of bounds because Bron didn’t take the last shot? Everybody contributes in different areas and different parts in the game Lol
@@corpyhogan4433 exactly than you!👏👏👏👏
Mark O'Dwyer ridiculous*** 🤪
skip said lebron couldn’t add anything but won this year 🤣 goofy
Draymond looked like a 2nd round pick in 2016??? Dude had a 30 point triple double in game 7....
I was thinking the same thing...
Skip be talking some bull💩
wow 1 game. where has that been since
blackshirts9321 It doesn't matter what he looked like that what he is a second round draft pick...smh
joceja23 so then why do GS bandwagons always say “Draymond isn’t an all star, so they only have 3” when others say “they have 4 all stars”?
KD's legacy will never stand up to Kobe's, Lebron's or MJ's. He did that to himself
Razor Jerzey. Cringe
@@HillTopHungBuck7 Super-Cringe
Razor Jerzey. how old are you? 9?
@@DaQuavious408 he has to be about young af or a different type of special. hes not even worth responding to because I highly believe he cant be involved in a rational conversation
Lol he's from the Philippines. They the only ones who talk like that🤣🤣
The Thumbnail Explain How Unc Feel! 😂 ---> 😑
I was dying with that alone 😂
2:00 “LONG LEGGED LIFE” 😂😂😂🤦🏾♂️
“Draymond sometimes looks like the 2nd round draft pick he is”
That’s just cold Skip...
😂😂
The man that put up a >30 point triple double in game 7 of the 2016 finals.
Shannon's face in the thumbnail says it all...really bruh
Fax!
asanda dandala I’m dead 😂😂 I didn’t even realize it 😂😂
This was Skip Bayless at his all time worst. He's fun to watch but he has literally no credibility.
The King completely disagree
Credibility shouldn’t even be mentioned around THE skip bay less. He’s been around since the 80s.
Bruh lol. People actually like his takes. Do they not realize that this is a debate show? He's saying these things to go against what Unc is saying. Most of what he says, he doesn't even believe lol.
I Might Be alone in This one but im not sure when kd's career is over he will Even Be A top 10 all time player
You ain’t lying
As of now no. He has to win a ring or two somewhere else first.
Top ten small forward or all time but top like top ten with bron mj and Kareem and magic or Larry nah to far
@@leoster6118 I don’t think so 🤷🏾♂️ top 15 tho
Might sound like disrespect but Hakeem has my top 10 AND HE IS LIGHTYEARS AHEAD INFRONT OF KD IN TERMS OF GREATNESS he has to pass WilT and some other guys too this is my top 10 list btw
10.Hakeem
9.Duncan
8.Bird
7.Kobe
6.Shaq
5.Bill Russel
4.Magic Johnson
3.LBJ
2.Kareem
1.Jordan
They forget that KD gets to play 1 on 1 meanwhile Jordan and Kobe had double coverage. Imagine if you put LeBron on GSW instead of KD... No way LeBrons getting double covered
@Flyin Brian put Kobe, Mj or Bron on Golden State and they become better
Lol if lebron was on the gsw... they would get first round exit... lebron is not a great shooter. He commands the ball 90% of the time. Nobody would be involved.
Lebron cant play iso ball, one of the worst offensive skill player in history for superstars.
LeBron's team always been way more stacked than any other in the league.
GSWs is a bunch of drafted players that other teams didn't even want. Draymond went in the 2nd round.
Miami cHeats had like 8 Superstars on a paycut bigger than the salary cap.
Guess he played iso ball in okc too huh averaging 27-29 pretty much effortlessly throughout his tenure in Okc . y’all really be acting like he became this offensive juggernaut cuz he in Golden state and cuz of curry and klay and blah blah blah . dude nobody could guard him in okc either lol yeah he didn’t win like he is now but kds game NO BODY EVER HAD TO QUESTION
Jalelle Sudler bruh Chris Paul was shutting down KD IN THE POST during the playoffs.
LeBron James is currently ranked 1st in all time NBA Playoffs Win Shares.
@The R. www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/ws_career_p.html
William Brooks he’s been to 9 from the weak eastern conference I believe you. First season in west and don’t make playoffs. Smdh...maybe next year though
he got sweep in the finals
@@SNIPEonSIGHT If Anthony Davis signs with the Lakers that will help LeBron get back to the playoffs for sure.
@The R. it's always funny when people use vs Lebron what he did in 2007 and in the year with Mozgov and Delly in the starting 5.
Not all rings are equal.
2016 Bron chip >>>>> KD's rings
2011 Dirk chip >>>>>> KD's rings
2006 Wade chip >>>>> KD's rings
2010 Kobe chip >>>>> KD's rings
KD was never the engine of a championship team. That credit goes to Steph Curry who imho is being undervalued because of KD.
Rings are rings idiot.
@@thebassman3757 they don't have the same value, nephew
TheNamesDitto Rings are Ring don't matter
That’s why KD has 2 Finals MVPs to Steph’s zero?
Jack Drew yes and no.
'HE NEVER DONE THAT"
'HE NEVER DONE THAT" (SHANNON") FUNNY ASF
😂😂😂😂😂😂
The title should say "can Kevin Durant SLITHER his way past LeBron on the NBA's all time great list ?
Jan-Michael Vincent LMAOOOO
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Lol 😂
Jan-Michael Vincent w
Help me understand on why people think kd a snake idk much of basketball but I know he was a FA when he chose to go to GS so idk how that makes him a snake
Take a shot every time Skip says "if", RIP.
KD the best player right now. But NO WAY he is better than LeBron all time. Shut up Skip pls...
Imagine GS without Steph
Skiup is soo dumb his sperms cant procreate. 😂😂😂
Why is he better than Embiid, Harden, & Giannis?
@@JoeSmith-ie3cx BC he is a back to back finals MVP
@@Eivn-gq1dpThey pick from the team that wins the trophy, not the actual best player, plus he couldn't win the regular mvp either year
As good as Kevin Durant is there's no way he'll stay healthy long enough to pass LeBron and any category.
I love when skip switches the subject every time Shannon makes a valid point. He just is to prideful to admit It 😹
ZACH LANDING facts😂💯
Nope, Lebron went back to Cleveland and delivered a title against a 73-9 Warriors team
False circumstances did that but he did do his part as well and his team.
Kd better tho
2015 finals and 2016 finals champs both deserve asterisks to some degree...I guess 2016 finals seem remarkable when having tunnel vision though I can't denied it was a feel good story.
Shoulda stayed home too......
Dar Eus the video is talking about Lebron, any idiot knows he didn’t do it by himself. Kyrie played a huge part, Love and JR also. Warrior fans will always talk about Green getting suspended, and that’s how the Cavs won. Dramond should’ve been suspended in the OKC series for kicking Adams nuts.
Did Skip just say KD is on his way to becoming the 2nd greatest player of all time 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
lol
Lol
So skip is saying lebron is the second best player of all time lol, I’m a lebron fan but I don’t think he is number 2 all time
He could be, as of now he is not yet top 15.
@@Shawn.Mathew YES HE IS
Skip has been claiming LeBron is ranked #8-9 on his all-time list. He slipped in this conversation. 3:18
skips arguments get worse every time I watch this show. such a hater when it comes to lebron. both are amazing players but skip just can't ever give lebron credit
Yh Skip poor KD, stuck with Westbrook for 8 years with role players Harden and Ibaka along the way. While lucky LeBron was having the time of his life surrounded by all-stars in his first 7 years with the Cavs...
That 2016 OKC roster also had Oladipo, Kanter, Collision, Sabonis, Roberson, Steven Adams and decent auxiliary parts such as Taj Gibson, Doug Mcdermott(One of the best 3point shooters in the league and, analytically, the history of the NBA) and Illyasova. That team was stacked from top to bottom.
Phantom Rain you sound like your gonna cry
@@poetryinmotion7025 Oladipo never played with Durant.
Lebron was having the time of his life playing in the east
Phantom Rain you say “against a stacked Western Conference” OKC always had a better team than 99% of the West since 2010
Man the disrespect from Skip is crazy.... LeBron still better than KD.
If you say career wise LeBron is better fine...but currently KD is better than LeBron... Every time KD and LeBron have matched up head to head, one on one in the past two finals, KD outclassed LeBron. Shot over him, crossed him up...blocked him.
Still ?
badrobot3 NG Did you rly just say KD is better than Lebron 🤦♂️
@@kawhileonardscrustylaugh599 did I stutter...?
badrobot3 NG so you gonna leave out the part that lebron average a 32 point triple double for the series ?
It’s funny that ppl don’t remember before kid went to gsw when he had Westbrook and harden and bron had wade and bosh. Bron owned this guy before he joined the greatest backcourt shooting wise in nba history
Harden was a bench player and wade was way better than Russ at that point u have no idea what you’re talking about a
L G R W yeah harden only averaged 17 off the bench and Westbrook only averaged 23 that year and he had a guy in Ibaka who lead the league in blocks.... poor Kd
@@sawyerbix3028
Not to mention OKC was favored
THANK YOU SHANNON ONCE AGAIN YOU BRING LIGHT TO MY DAY. I LOVE YOU SHANNON
Zerik He is always saying what I dream to say to Skip’s face !!
KD might be better then 16th year Lebron but in all time list.. He’ll Nah!!!
This why Russell Westbrook get hated on so much he gets slandered so it kd can get more praise 🤦🏽♂️