Almost to a fault. Vinnie can't make up his mind about anything, Yngwie makes up his mind immediately, whether or not it's the right decision. At least Yngwie is still out there making music and playing shows.
I second the motion!! I remember hearing that album No parole from rock and roll and being blown away by Yngwie still stands the test of time, he had a lot of guitar players saying holy crap !! There is a new sheriff in town!!!! Lol!!
Then he went to Steeler, and you can tell it’s Yngwie bc he’s always had the same facial expression… pity his vocals are less than best if anyone wants to chat about Yngwie, you know who to look for….
@@dragonqueen6589 actually he was in Steeler first then Alcatrazz , my favorite album from yngwie probably would be Odyssey with Joe lynn turner on vocals , my drummer brain can only handle so many notes after a while lol! Need me some good vocals ya dig?
@@Joseph-xp3hh My fave album is Trilogy… you can guess who my fave vocalist is then - and I think he’s Yngwie’s as well because there’s an interview with this vocalist where he tells a tale of Yngwie, during the recording of ‘99’s alchemy turning to him and asking why after 8 years of lessons, why he still wasn’t sounding great… and the vocalist quite bluntly told Yngwie that he couldn’t automatically expect to be as great a vocalist as he was a guitarist and songwriter. I surmise that this is one of the reason the vocalist left during the “War to end all wars” tour - because I expect Yngwie never expected the vocalist to be so up-front and brutally honest with him, and Yngwie has always struck me as the type who would hold grudges… However, they must’ve mended fences, because Yngwie was content to let him play a set of tracks from Trilogy a few years back.
@@dragonqueen6589 let's see that would be Mr. Mark boals. Correct? Lol! Check out jeff scott soto singing with journey on the song I'll be alright with out you. Live .another great vocalist who got his start with Yngwie.
I totally agree with you. "Saint and Sinner" and "That Time of Year" are two examples of Vinnie at his best. "Saint and Sinner" sounds just like Jeff Beck and "That Time of Year" is as tasty and soulful as it gets. I suspect Vinnie saw Van Halen become a huge band and he thought playing as fast as possible would translate into album sales and it simply didn't work. If he would've done his best to come up with killer songs rather than trying ro show everyone how fast he could play, the Vinnie Vincent Invasion would've sold more albums.
Pretty sad, listening to that Warrior Demo, those songs for 1982 were way ahead of it's time. A few made it on Invasion, but Warriors version are so much better without the chaos speed licks all over them.
I never got Vincent… He seem to be in that weird space where he was an older guy trying to keep up with the younger guitar hero‘s and even all the glam stuff but he just seem to go too hard into it. Like he was just trying so hard it just felt weird… not trying to disrespect the guy, I just never really understood whether to take him seriously or not
It seems like he couldn't find his new place after Kiss. Tried to follow the current trends and become the next Yngwie or Van Halen. I think he just really wanted to be accepted somewhere. Not an easy thing considering his weird character.
Yes! Vinnie thought he was on the same level as Eddie and Yngwie, but he never was. And a bunch of other 80’s guitarists were also better than Vinnie, as well. The dude totally overrated himself. Kiss should have got Bruce Kulick back in ‘82 instead of Vinnie.
The thing about Bonnie was that he was a really good songwriter, but not so much lyrics and solos. The very best song completely structurally was "That Time of Year". Very little if anything was overdone in that song, and it should have been the first single from ASG. bonnie was like MAB without the discipline. Talented, but he didn't have the patience to structure the solos carefully. That's why I love Ace and early KISS... If you can SING the solo, it works really well. Try that with most of the VBI material and you will roast your vocal cords and sprain your tongue.
I've never met Vinny and I don't know him.. but from what I've read he must be a real pain in the ass to work with.. and that's a shame because as a musician he is an amazing talent.. if you're a guitar player try to find Any videos of Vinnie Vincent lead guitar covers... they are hard to find.. he had a style like nobody else and technique for days. It's a shame he turned out the way he did
You won't find covers of his lead guitar because he's not a very influential guitarist. His style wasn't that appealing if you ask me, his phrasing wasn't that great. And as far as technique goes he was a sloppy player. He was a pretty good songwriter though.
@@MrClassicmetal He was an okay vocalist as well, the demo of Back on the streets on here with his vocals is pretty good. There’s a link between him and Yngwie and that’s Goran Edman. I heard Goran say that Vinnie tricked him into coming to the states to see the sights only to keep him locked up in the studio, recording demos for an album that never ended.being released… a while after Goran got picked by Yngwie Malmsteen to be the vocalist on 1992’s Fire and ice.
@@MrClassicmetal Hey, Don’t I know ya from the comments on a different channel? I can’t remember what upload that was on, but I swear we’ve talked before…
Yngwie a Vinnie are completely different players, and I can imagine that he wanted to be the new Yngwie. But there's only one. Vinnie had chops from hell, and I love fast, technical guitar playing. But I think he overkilled it to the point where it wasn't even musical. People accuse Yngwie of that, but I think his playing is melodic, with chops beyond hell, killer vibrato, and I am a big fan of his. Too bad Vinnie couldn't sort out his demons. He had a helluva talent going.
Ken Edie Vinnie has no musicality, especially to his soloing. Sure he could pick Fast and knew a few tricks,, but it was a clusterfuck of notes and it didn't have any musical sense to it. A lot of people don't pay attention to that, maybe because they are tone deaf. I have been playing music most of my life so I picked on that immediately.
Vinnie was no where near the level of YJMs playing or writing.... I never really got Vinnies playing. His instructional guitar vid was something I had never seen before...jus my view...
You have some inaccuracies in what was being said. The largest one being that he joined KISS in 1983. It was actually 1982. Also what was left out is the fact that Paul Stanley produced New England's debut album, and of course brought them out on tour during the Dynasty tour.
Didn't Warrior open up for Loudness on the Thunder in the East Tour in the US? Or was it a different band all together, with the same name? I have never been able to find out any information on said band...anywhere.
Did you ever hear the guitar work he did for Laura Nero? That's Rock Royalty. He worked with Dan Hartman from White Trash again Rock Royalty. He wrote some of Kiss best songs too. Not to mention ,That time of year and Back on the streets again.
There’s only one Yngwie I’ve never met VV The only albums I like are the ones he’s on He’s cool flamboyant but Damn brother I have not heard from him since Grunge took over in the 90’s plus you either lose track of fade away like Niel Young verbal song says I’m not putting him down but maybe we need Metal back as a community not fighting among each other
For the most part Vinnie is talented when kept in control and not going off the deep end. Vinnie shouldn't have tried to be like Yngwie he should have stayed true to himself and not trying to copy other guitarists. Be original if you want to be a talented musician.
Weirdly enough Vinessa had Goran Edman do demos for the first VVI lp. Then Goran,apparently not having enough of ego driven guitar players,joined Rising Force for two lps.
just because one gets inspired by someone, doesn't mean they are trying to rip someone off. Billions of people learned the English alphabet, but who wrote exactly the same letters? No one. In the end, it makes no sense to make these comparisons. I remember hearing Vincent many years ago, he never sounded like Malmsteen to me. This kind of generalization is common, and made by people who are unable to get into details, in this case that it's all fast picking. But if I know nothing about martial arts and see two martial artists who have different styles, it's all too easy to decide that it's all just kicking and punching.
If you listen to lick it up, VV’s solos are all pretty much the same. He has this one lick, that permeates every single song, a descending blue scale riff played as fast as possible, again and again, every track. He did the same thing in the Invasion. While most players, Malmsteen included, have signature runs, Vincent seemed to have played this riff over and over and over. So, in a way, he was a LOT like Malmsteen!!
To say he was trying to play like yng. Isn't just an insult to Yng its an insult to Rock the electric guitar and music as a whole he is good at BOVINE SCATOLOGY
@@richardlawson6787 bruh, no way. I'm half baked... for real? By comparison were we all that surprised at Rob Halford announcing he was gay in retrospect? But then again I'm not singing Vinnie Vincent songs while I pound chicks bowlegged. That Turbo Lover album is highly underrated, btw. Love machines in harmony, that is totally about me and a female. Totally
Money of course. It was the 80's and metal was in. Every guitar player wanted to be the next Eddie Van Halen. Jazz didn't pay well at the time, it still doesn't pay well.
As much as I like some of Vinnie s guitar playing, he looked like an old perverted crossdressing dude on some of those pictures, not a good look at all, even considering the movement that was going on at that time. I think to be a guitar god, as he wanted to be, you also had to have the look and he didnt have it in my opinion. Theres just this weird vibe that he has when you look at him, like at 3:49 . Yngwie was way ahead of him, of everyone actually.
Malmsteen's best stuff was in Alcatraz, because they had good songs. Malmsteen solo albums, where he wrote everything, were mediocre, a good song here and there but mostly boring. With Vinnie, his best stuff were the solos, the rest of the songs were nothing special.
@@spacelube5845 he's much better than a good songwriter, he's a textbook on how to write great songs, almost as good as Paul Simon. He worked with Laura Nero. VINNIE is Rock Royalty, people just haven't caught up to him yet.
One thing is for sure, Yngwie can make his mind up on things
Ain't that the truth
Almost to a fault. Vinnie can't make up his mind about anything, Yngwie makes up his mind immediately, whether or not it's the right decision. At least Yngwie is still out there making music and playing shows.
The first Alcatraz album is still one of my all time favorite albums of all time. If you like any Yngwie Malmsteen, you'll like this album a lot.
I second the motion!! I remember hearing that album No parole from rock and roll and being blown away by Yngwie still stands the test of time, he had a lot of guitar players saying holy crap !! There is a new sheriff in town!!!! Lol!!
Then he went to Steeler, and you can tell it’s Yngwie bc he’s always had the same facial expression… pity his vocals are less than best if anyone wants to chat about Yngwie, you know who to look for….
@@dragonqueen6589 actually he was in Steeler first then Alcatrazz , my favorite album from yngwie probably would be Odyssey with Joe lynn turner on vocals , my drummer brain can only handle so many notes after a while lol! Need me some good vocals ya dig?
@@Joseph-xp3hh My fave album is Trilogy… you can guess who my fave vocalist is then - and I think he’s Yngwie’s as well because there’s an interview with this vocalist where he tells a tale of Yngwie, during the recording of ‘99’s alchemy turning to him and asking why after 8 years of lessons, why he still wasn’t sounding great… and the vocalist quite bluntly told Yngwie that he couldn’t automatically expect to be as great a vocalist as he was a guitarist and songwriter.
I surmise that this is one of the reason the vocalist left during the “War to end all wars” tour - because I expect Yngwie never expected the vocalist to be so up-front and brutally honest with him, and Yngwie has always struck me as the type who would hold grudges… However, they must’ve mended fences, because Yngwie was content to let him play a set of tracks from Trilogy a few years back.
@@dragonqueen6589 let's see that would be Mr. Mark boals. Correct? Lol! Check out jeff scott soto singing with journey on the song I'll be alright with out you. Live .another great vocalist who got his start with Yngwie.
vinnie was an incredible, very soulful and tasty guitar player when he wanted to be. just listen to the album he did with felix cavalera, Treasure.
He could play anything. He chose to play over-the-top solos with 1001 notes per second. Damn, his career could've been so fantastic.
What's the name of the album?
@@symbiosisai look for "Treasure live at the Bottom Line". I don't know their album's title.
I totally agree with you. "Saint and Sinner" and "That Time of Year" are two examples of Vinnie at his best. "Saint and Sinner" sounds just like Jeff Beck and "That Time of Year" is as tasty and soulful as it gets. I suspect Vinnie saw Van Halen become a huge band and he thought playing as fast as possible would translate into album sales and it simply didn't work. If he would've done his best to come up with killer songs rather than trying ro show everyone how fast he could play, the Vinnie Vincent Invasion would've sold more albums.
@@meatwad1 Kiss made the same mistake in the 80s. They started following the trends instead of doing their own original music like in the 70s.
Pretty sad, listening to that Warrior Demo, those songs for 1982 were way ahead of it's time. A few made it on Invasion, but Warriors version are so much better without the chaos speed licks all over them.
Vinnie looked like Liza Minelli
Vicki's dickie😂
Nothing but love & respect for Gary Shea!!! miss U bro.
Hit me up if you"re ever near Clearwater Florida
I often felt he had heavy self doubt. That shit doesnt just appear. People put it there; we are solid till we develop ego. Then other people slice it.
Great interview ,, liked this.,
Thanks for listening
Im recent to the channel. Love learning new facts. Great interview.
I never got Vincent…
He seem to be in that weird space where he was an older guy trying to keep up with the younger guitar hero‘s and even all the glam stuff but he just seem to go too hard into it. Like he was just trying so hard it just felt weird… not trying to disrespect the guy, I just never really understood whether to take him seriously or not
It seems like he couldn't find his new place after Kiss. Tried to follow the current trends and become the next Yngwie or Van Halen. I think he just really wanted to be accepted somewhere. Not an easy thing considering his weird character.
Vincent was a great guitarist. But a horrible person
HEROES not hero's
@@ralphsmith2683 Heerowz
herOES....NOT hero's
Vinnie wrote " i love it loud" one of my favorite kiss songs
He’s still trying to make up his/her mind.... Vickie Vincent
Or she…
😅
Ha ha😂 good one Gene was right he was a weird looking fellow
Vinnie wanted to be THE 80s guitar god. His ego destroyed him.
Yes! Vinnie thought he was on the same level as Eddie and Yngwie, but he never was. And a bunch of other 80’s guitarists were also better than Vinnie, as well. The dude totally overrated himself. Kiss should have got Bruce Kulick back in ‘82 instead of Vinnie.
Exactly…
@@demoninvader ,, for sure Bruce would have put KISS in a new realm w/his guitar playing I can only imagine what he could have done..
The thing about Bonnie was that he was a really good songwriter, but not so much lyrics and solos. The very best song completely structurally was "That Time of Year". Very little if anything was overdone in that song, and it should have been the first single from ASG.
bonnie was like MAB without the discipline. Talented, but he didn't have the patience to structure the solos carefully. That's why I love Ace and early KISS... If you can SING the solo, it works really well. Try that with most of the VBI material and you will roast your vocal cords and sprain your tongue.
Be cool...he has transitioned!
I've never met Vinny and I don't know him.. but from what I've read he must be a real pain in the ass to work with.. and that's a shame because as a musician he is an amazing talent.. if you're a guitar player try to find Any videos of Vinnie Vincent lead guitar covers... they are hard to find.. he had a style like nobody else and technique for days.
It's a shame he turned out the way he did
¨Talented people are quite often dicks. I have the impression of.
Talented people are often weird.
You won't find covers of his lead guitar because he's not a very influential guitarist. His style wasn't that appealing if you ask me, his phrasing wasn't that great. And as far as technique goes he was a sloppy player.
He was a pretty good songwriter though.
@@MrClassicmetal He was an okay vocalist as well, the demo of Back on the streets on here with his vocals is pretty good. There’s a link between him and Yngwie and that’s Goran Edman. I heard Goran say that Vinnie tricked him into coming to the states to see the sights only to keep him locked up in the studio, recording demos for an album that never ended.being released… a while after Goran got picked by Yngwie Malmsteen to be the vocalist on 1992’s Fire and ice.
@@MrClassicmetal Hey, Don’t I know ya from the comments on a different channel? I can’t remember what upload that was on, but I swear we’ve talked before…
The V V invasion was a great debut album until you get to the guitar solos
Ok you made me look up the Warrior cd very interesting to hear the early version of the songs 🥂 but Vinnie is still a dork
It's been out at least a few years now.
Yngwie a Vinnie are completely different players, and I can imagine that he wanted to be the new Yngwie. But there's only one. Vinnie had chops from hell, and I love fast, technical guitar playing. But I think he overkilled it to the point where it wasn't even musical. People accuse Yngwie of that, but I think his playing is melodic, with chops beyond hell, killer vibrato, and I am a big fan of his. Too bad Vinnie couldn't sort out his demons. He had a helluva talent going.
Ken Edie Vinnie has no musicality, especially to his soloing. Sure he could pick
Fast and knew a few tricks,, but it was a clusterfuck of notes and it didn't have any
musical sense to it. A lot of people don't pay attention to that, maybe because they are tone deaf. I have been playing music most of my life so I picked on that immediately.
@@rbagel55 Vinnie is a much better songwriter than Ingvar
Vinnie was no where near the level of YJMs playing or writing.... I never really got Vinnies playing. His instructional guitar vid was something I had never seen before...jus my view...
You have some inaccuracies in what was being said. The largest one being that he joined KISS in 1983. It was actually 1982. Also what was left out is the fact that Paul Stanley produced New England's debut album, and of course brought them out on tour during the Dynasty tour.
Gary played with many guitar legends: Vinnie, Yngwie & Steve Vai!!!
xoxo The Clarences
I remember Warrior. Fighting for the Earth, song. Los Angeles radio played it a lot. 🤘🎸
Not a fan of Vinnie Vincent Invasion. 🥱
Didn't Warrior open up for Loudness on the Thunder in the East Tour in the US? Or was it a different band all together, with the same name? I have never been able to find out any information on said band...anywhere.
That's a different band
@@nonrevnosnibormetalbeerrev6251 Thanks for the info.
@@MrChiprocks1 I remember Loudness opening for Motley Crue in 1985.
@@nonrevnosnibormetalbeerrev6251
Thank you for answering the very question I had.
It’s sad cause that Vicki Vincent invasion album was awesome. Vicki lol
Funny thing....
Steve Vai was the best fit for Alcatrazz but damn if they weren't burnt on crazy guitarists by then.
I'll say it till I die. I want the two bucks I spent on a used copy of the first Vinnie Vincent Invasion album
What a horrific shet guitar player he was and is. Amazing he got anywhere at all.
Did you ever hear the guitar work he did for Laura Nero? That's Rock Royalty.
He worked with Dan Hartman from White Trash again Rock Royalty.
He wrote some of Kiss best songs too.
Not to mention ,That time of year and Back on the streets again.
I'm pretty sure that both Vinnie and Yngwie had the same manager? this would be the coalition between them. But you can't compete with the swift Swede
Yes, his name was Nigel Thomas.
Josh Kaye, the swift Swede can't write for s"!+.
There’s only one Yngwie I’ve never met VV The only albums I like are the ones he’s on
He’s cool flamboyant but Damn brother
I have not heard from him since Grunge took over in the 90’s plus you either lose track of fade away like Niel Young verbal song says I’m not putting him down but maybe we need Metal back as a community not fighting among each other
For the most part Vinnie is talented when kept in control and not going off the deep end. Vinnie shouldn't have tried to be like Yngwie he should have stayed true to himself and not trying to copy other guitarists. Be original if you want to be a talented musician.
Weirdly enough Vinessa had Goran Edman do demos for the first VVI lp. Then Goran,apparently not having enough of ego driven guitar players,joined Rising Force for two lps.
I was never that impressed with Vinnie Vincent. Too complicated, too many notes.
Saw the Invasion open for Maiden in '87. Horrible! Endless terrible soloing and noodling.
just because one gets inspired by someone, doesn't mean they are trying to rip someone off. Billions of people learned the English alphabet, but who wrote exactly the same letters? No one. In the end, it makes no sense to make these comparisons. I remember hearing Vincent many years ago, he never sounded like Malmsteen to me. This kind of generalization is common, and made by people who are unable to get into details, in this case that it's all fast picking. But if I know nothing about martial arts and see two martial artists who have different styles, it's all too easy to decide that it's all just kicking and punching.
If you listen to lick it up, VV’s solos are all pretty much the same. He has this one lick, that permeates every single song, a descending blue scale riff played as fast as possible, again and again, every track. He did the same thing in the Invasion. While most players, Malmsteen included, have signature runs, Vincent seemed to have played this riff over and over and over. So, in a way, he was a LOT like Malmsteen!!
To say he was trying to play like yng. Isn't just an insult to Yng its an insult to Rock the electric guitar and music as a whole he is good at BOVINE SCATOLOGY
That was weird.
What was Vinny thinking with that look of Prince meets Barbarella?
Just the 80s fashion. Nothing new.
You should see her now...yes her....he transformed into a woman
@@richardlawson6787 bruh, no way. I'm half baked... for real?
By comparison were we all that surprised at Rob Halford announcing he was gay in retrospect?
But then again I'm not singing Vinnie Vincent songs while I pound chicks bowlegged.
That Turbo Lover album is highly underrated, btw.
Love machines in harmony, that is totally about me and a female.
Totally
@@homeslipper yep...he is now a she... So she was always feminine but now there's no doubt...to each her own I suppose
Lmao that's comparing a novice to a freaking Master ! Yngwie is a freaking beast lol Vinie wouldn't stand a chance lol
Vinnie is a much better songwriter.
He actually can play some melodic jazzy stuff, why he chose to be a shredder….
Money of course. It was the 80's and metal
was in. Every guitar player wanted to be the
next Eddie Van Halen. Jazz didn't pay well at the time, it still doesn't pay well.
That's the explanation of why VV sucks
Where can those demos be found
Use the internet much?
Funny how VVI had one guy with all the makeup on and the other 3 with none.
Kind of shows Vinnie for the problems he had.
@Sam Coon The whole band was wearing make up.
Yngwie hates donuts. Getcha' pull.
Vinnie Vincent! I saw Yngwie open for Dio on Magica tour. Craig Goldy blew Yngwie off the stage. Vinnie is amazing. PISS OFF!
Funny everyone coming out bashing VV lately.
And look what happen ,he made up his mind and changed to a girl 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 not a very good looking one may I add.🤦🤷♂️
As much as I like some of Vinnie s guitar playing, he looked like an old perverted crossdressing dude on some of those pictures, not a good look at all, even considering the movement that was going on at that time. I think to be a guitar god, as he wanted to be, you also had to have the look and he didnt have it in my opinion. Theres just this weird vibe that he has when you look at him, like at 3:49 . Yngwie was way ahead of him, of everyone actually.
Malmsteen's best stuff was in Alcatraz, because they had good songs. Malmsteen solo albums, where he wrote everything, were mediocre, a good song here and there but mostly boring. With Vinnie, his best stuff were the solos, the rest of the songs were nothing special.
I think it´s the opposite. Vinnie´s songwriting was superb, his solos were iffy depending on the track, but he was a very good songwriter.
@@spacelube5845 he's much better than a good songwriter, he's a textbook on how to write great songs, almost as good as Paul Simon.
He worked with Laura Nero.
VINNIE is Rock Royalty, people just haven't caught up to him yet.
VINCENT CUSANO....
Vicky
Angel
Crazy/Egotistical/Erratic = guitarists
Vv is a BS artist that's all. His style isn't that impressive. Sure it worked w Kiss BUT No. Sloppy off time. If you play its painfully obvious
It's painfully obvious that he did a lot better than you ever will.
Vicki's dickie😂
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