If filling to much does it affect the clutch bathing? Drown gears maybe had a low splashing effect and the splash cant reach the clutch...is it logical?😅 Just asking...btw thanks for the engine sacrifice....
Had to replace clutch arm lever as mine was chewed up and single Oring kept leaking. So Installed new clutch lever with two Orings. Thought i might aswell try this different oil whilst im at it. Replaced oil with 80w90gl4 about 400ml. Now can't set clutch, have 2mm at lever and and all seems to be operating fine, but can't move freely in 1st when clutch pulled in, if I adjust cable any tighter I get no kick start. When scooter is on putting in 1st gets a little jump and feels like it's pulling with clutch fully engaged. Super weird, maybe it's the thicker oil not upto temperature or not made it to the plates yet and they sticking? Does anyone know if you can remove the clutch cover with oil in the scooter still?
yes it does. instead of overpriced stoneage sae30 of course (like with 2 stroke oils) modern gearbox oils can be used. Original linings 75/80/90 api gl4. With honda linings: 10w40 mineral. Or seminhydraulic motorbike oil.
@@FreakMoPed8 you mean original lining vespa clutch using 80w90 GL4? Even though the oil is actually intended for gears and not for wet clutches, is it still good? Thank you for your answer brother.
Works fine, yes 👍 The thing with the old sae30 is that it gets very fast thin and has to exchanged often. On top of that its quite expensive if you compare. Modern oils dont get thin so fast and needs to be exchanged less therefore
@@FreakMoPed8 ahh thank you so much brother. You answered my doubts all along, and I decided to use Castrol 80W90 GL4 (usually this oil is used for trucks and cars) because finding SAE30 oil in Indonesia is very difficult.
Two different separate things gearbox and twostroke oil. Regarding honda clutch linings, Lets listen to honda, what they recommend for their bikes. honda GN4 or HP4 standard, which means mineral or semisyntetic 10W30 or 10W40 motorbike oil for oil bath clutch with JASO MA spec, the latest one is MA2. Original clutch linings u use gl4/5 gearbox oil w75-90
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thank you for sacrificing an engine case for this experiment, so that we dont have to do so.. ;)
i do have a cheap supplier of used vespa parts, happy to kindof reinvest some cents in needed research :)
Nice video, I always use 400ml for my P150XE because 500ml sometimes over flow from the clutch cover hole
Thank you!
Is there any argument for or against increasing the oil capacity above the notional 200ml?
original is a bit little. i recommend using more
If filling to much does it affect the clutch bathing? Drown gears maybe had a low splashing effect and the splash cant reach the clutch...is it logical?😅 Just asking...btw thanks for the engine sacrifice....
My guess: the more oil the more oil wind/fog
hello sir, is it possible to add 350ml of gearbox oil through the original inlet or do i have to add it through the clutch area? thank you sir
lean scoot to the left!
Had to replace clutch arm lever as mine was chewed up and single Oring kept leaking. So Installed new clutch lever with two Orings. Thought i might aswell try this different oil whilst im at it. Replaced oil with 80w90gl4 about 400ml. Now can't set clutch, have 2mm at lever and and all seems to be operating fine, but can't move freely in 1st when clutch pulled in, if I adjust cable any tighter I get no kick start. When scooter is on putting in 1st gets a little jump and feels like it's pulling with clutch fully engaged. Super weird, maybe it's the thicker oil not upto temperature or not made it to the plates yet and they sticking? Does anyone know if you can remove the clutch cover with oil in the scooter still?
yes u can open the cover.
@@FreakMoPed8 nice thanks
So what the your recommendation?
350
What about if oil leaking at hub side..
New seal
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Hi Mista, does gearbox oil also lubricate the clutch on the vespa classic?
and also what is the viscosity value for vespa classic gear oil? thanks
yes it does. instead of overpriced stoneage sae30 of course (like with 2 stroke oils) modern gearbox oils can be used. Original linings 75/80/90 api gl4. With honda linings: 10w40 mineral. Or seminhydraulic motorbike oil.
@@FreakMoPed8 you mean original lining vespa clutch using 80w90 GL4?
Even though the oil is actually intended for gears and not for wet clutches, is it still good?
Thank you for your answer brother.
Works fine, yes 👍
The thing with the old sae30 is that it gets very fast thin and has to exchanged often. On top of that its quite expensive if you compare. Modern oils dont get thin so fast and needs to be exchanged less therefore
@@FreakMoPed8 ahh thank you so much brother.
You answered my doubts all along, and I decided to use Castrol 80W90 GL4 (usually this oil is used for trucks and cars) because finding SAE30 oil in Indonesia is very difficult.
@@andreasugara jadi kesimpulan nya oli dengan kekentalan brp yg ia rekomendasikan bro?
79 MPH at the of the video!👍
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Whats your clutch, primary drive teeth?
Thank you brother...
What quantity do you recommend with your experience?
I use 350ml
Dont forget the oil thins out as it heats up so adding to much might be detrimental
No worries, such kind of oldschool tractor engine wont bring modern gearbox oil to its imits
@@FreakMoPed8 Hi what would be the best gearbox oil to use thank you
@@DS-_JOCK 75/80-90 api gl... standard, with original clutch linings, 10w40 jaso ma2 with hond linings
@@FreakMoPed8 Thank you for the information
I use 20W50 for the oil did you already try it ?
Thanks bro 👍🏻👌
Oil leaking from kickstarter, i have changed the seal, but no solve,, can u give me tips and trick?? Thank for ur attn.
If seal. Doesnt help maybe the shaft is not straight anymore? Are ubsure it comes from. The kickstarter?
mista FreakMoPed ohh let me check again to make sure sir, i will inform u later
2:41 Cheers guys 😃
10W40 not too thick for racing cylinder?
u do know that we are talkong about GEARBOX oil here.
Not to be confused with twostroke oil.
mista FreakMoPed I get advise to use 20w50 for the gear box instead of 10w40... I wanted to share and get opinion of vespa lovers 😃
Two different separate things gearbox and twostroke oil.
Regarding honda clutch linings, Lets listen to honda, what they recommend for their bikes.
honda GN4 or HP4 standard, which means mineral or semisyntetic 10W30 or 10W40 motorbike oil for oil bath clutch with JASO MA spec, the latest one is MA2.
Original clutch linings u use gl4/5 gearbox oil w75-90
mista FreakMoPed what about KTM they are using 15w50 for oil bath. In 300 2t
Gearbox oil is separate from. The cylinder at a two stroke. It depends on the clutch linings whats needed. Not on the 2/4 stroke.
Freakmoped forscht 😊
so isses :)