Around 38 minutes in, he mentions a woman sheltering in a doorframe during an earthquake. If you know to do that, it is because you're part of a group that has seen a lot of earthquakes. That's not an intuitive move. In other words, this is not evidence of _an_ earthquake. It is evidence of many earthquakes.
They assume she was sheltering, she could have been rushing either inside or outside and got struck, but it also means her body was not buried, instead was left where it fell, which on its own indicates the city was abandoned immediately, but in that case I would expect the body to have been dragged and scattered by scavengers (creatures), so I don't buy what they are saying at all based on the interpretation of that body alone.
@@_John_P no it doesn't mean that her body wasn't burried. The fact they found the body at all is proof scavengers couldn't get to her. It's not prove the place was immediately abandoned. I think its more likely that nobody found her in the rubble and just like with the dinosaurs, the soil became her tomb
@@RichardsNickname People reuse stones, any pile of ruble would have been taken eventually to build walls or other structures elsewhere, exposing the remains, unless the place was abandoned and forgotten.
To what end? It is the fairy tale of a man debunking the fairy tales told him when he was a student in college. They are all fairy tales from the mouths of men and of no value. They are distractions, diversions from life.
@@TheRootedWord This presentation may not be for you, but your opinion does not apply to others. For most of us here, it is not a distraction or diversion, but furthering our understanding of the past. There must be people in every society who researches and keeps a record of the past. A world without people like this Professor (and his colleagues) and his lust for the truth and understanding about our world's history would be akin to some of what he talks about - things that are forgotten (and having to be re-learned later). We would not learn anything because we would forget everything that got us here in the first place. Without knowing and understanding the past we are doomed to make the same mistakes going forward. Knowing the history of past cultures and people of the world gives us perspective and many people have a wanton need to know this history. There is a famous quote, I believe is was Cornel West, who said something like, "You can't really move forward until you look back." It would take a lot longer for mankind to move forward if he does not embrace the history of the past. Mankind might even reach a point in the future where mankind can go no further because we think the past is irrelevant.
I dont. I have been a history student my whole life, and I was a psychology major in college. Our liberal arts colleges can not even teach semi accurate twentieth century history. Now we have marauding young zombies screaming about a system that they have no actual knowledge of, and worshiping evil, racist, sociopaths like marx, Trotsky, and Lenin. If we dont stomp it out soon, we will see our collapse also.
@@usefulidiots3970 We also have the complicating factor of critical infrastructure that is capable of instantaneous widespread failure. At least failure propagation back then took months or years. Today, it can take seconds.
Came out of curiosity, stayed an hour because this was the most interesting history lesson I've ever listened to. Why cant middle and high school history classes be taught like this?
b/c middle and high school history teachers have not went on archaeological digs, they do not have a passion, amazing memory, and knowledge of the subject matter as does Dr. Cline. Instead we have over 12 years of public schooling, we’re meant to find out what we’re truly passionate about. Instead, those 12 years are spent developing an obsession with grades, the ability to regurgitate information, and the realization that achievement is more important than understanding.
This is the second of his presentations I have viewed. He knows his subject. He does not have to refer to notes. He knows his names and his dates. He is clearly a professional in every sense of the word. He knows the names in his field, the state of current digs and research. When I get a chance, I am getting his book. I’m also searching for any videos on this take on Exodus. Most of all, he’s funny and relaxed.
He's a great presenter but he's probably given this talk on his book a million times. Referring to your notes is essential for historians because there's so many gd facts and dates.
The reasons his presentation is smooth are 1) he has excellent long term memory and 2) he is well practiced from decades of reciting to students. Excellent professors could almost give their standard lectures in their sleep. That is no insult. It comes with the job.
Fake! Those people with families were refugees of the invasions of Sea Peoples. Also the depictions (of those invasion wars) depicts (and not only in Egypt) all kind of people which were all involved in these wars and migrations, are NOT all the infamous Sea Peoples, but ALL peoples involved in these wars, the autochton victims, plus the invaders). Many fake info (and all based on BS and infantile speculations) is today being purposely spread allover Media concerning the Sea Peoples, but the real informations, based on real proof (also thoroughly documented by the greatest history investigator of all times, Dinu Costel Linta aka "DCL" or "LCD") exists allready, about WHO were the Sea Peoples, documented also by the Egyptian tablets (as well as the Babylonian ones), and even by this very guy in this clip, but when he was younger, sane and incoruptibile, in another clip (See "The Colaps of the Bronze Age Civilisation" documentary on youtube, about the "Sea People", the perpetual killers of the human race, who they are/were: ruclips.net/video/MjuZjHpxUWQ/видео.html ), long before he was hansomly paid by the Sea Peoples of today (who owes the Media, the banks etc.) to divert the atention from them (the descendents of the Sea Peoples), to other cheap fairytales for weak minds (as a sane person sees through it right away), as the comediant type speculations in this clip shows.
He is a fine lecturer, but what he says is an opinion set, hardly more than 140 years old. To pass his course, indeed all of this opinion must be followed... or you will fail the course. But his thoughts are countered by many other enquiring people today. And the truth? The pharaoh he calls 'Rameses III, in 1177 BC', is really a much later famous monarch called Apries by Greek authors and Khophra by a Hebrew prophet. And he was alive and well in the lifetimes of Jeremiah, Plato, Thales of Miletes and Zedekiah, the last king of Judah. This pharaoh famously sailed his fleet to Cyprus, defeated the Cypriot fleet and then conquered the island itself. He used the captured booty to build some nice monuments back home in Egypt. After that, the entire eastern Mediterranean region was ravaged by the Babylonian tide.
An ancient historian friend once claimed that I, who study modern U.S. history, have access to more information on any one YEAR in the 1930s than he does to ALL of antiquity. I doubted his claim -- at first. Then I thought about all the books, magazines, and newspapers I could get in one way/form or another from, say, 1937. Then I moved on to art and popular culture sources: paintings, photography, illustrations, sculptures, movies, radio show recordings, music recordings, sheet music, comic books, etc., etc., and then all the manuscripts sources in archives: diaries, letters, oral histories, and so much more. Yup, he had less than that from thousands of years of the ancient world. Amazing that we can piece together what we have to create anything like a coherent story.
Karen Houser the Actual Academic Art world- around the world, tho lib, is loosing our shit. Iconoclasm is our cross! Burning books and toppling democratic symbols has never gone well historically. Out side of click bait and media prompts there is massive legislative power working to restore history for fear its further white washed. Heritage monuments will be restored to higher glory and their importance in public space every more honored. Toppling monuments is a crime against humanity, so internationally defended against, not just our nation; its part of media (art=1st amendment control) consciousness suppression, dare I say wafting with Marxism.
He knows so well what he wants to communicate, how to spend the time allotted. So many lecturers are hampered by narrow thinking, like being slaves of their own powerpoints.
Many that I have listened to in the past on similar subjectsI didn't continue to listen to as the lecturer was boring and uninspiring. This guy not only knew what he was talking about was also quite entertaining making the topic interesting, and as a result I listened to it all and learned a great deal. Well done!
Very good lecture. After years of history classes and reading history books this in perhaps one of the best explanations of what took place in this area. Thank you. I really enjoyed listening to you. And, yes, history does repeat itself and those who refuse to learn history are destined to re-learn it, i.e. “us today”.
As a layperson untrained in archeology, this is utterly fascinating -- particularly the numerous parallels that can be drawn between 3200 years ago and now. We have a lot still to learn from the ancient world.
the point ov history is to learn from it. but the way sociaty uses it i think it may be best to use history as a playbill. as in 'OH a global pandimic... yep leads to food and fuel resource loss and panic in smaller countries.... rome fell to less. LETS GO COVID/SHRI LANKA!!"
What's fascinating about the bronze age collapse is that it was a complete apocalypse for most of the world. An extinction of society never before seen.
@Valentina Valley Destroying enemy cities and expelling and even eradicating entire populations was, sadly, not uncommon in the Ancient Era: the Assyrians, Babylonians, Egyptians, Greeks/Macedonians, Hebrews, Huns, Romans, and barbarian tribes all practiced this to varying degrees. However, this mostly wasn't "genocide" as it's understood post WW2, but rather an often merciless waging of total war against enemy states and their peoples, and the savagery unleashed by a victorious army upon a defeated enemy after suffering large losses in combat. This has been seen throughout history, including WW2 after the Nazi German state was conquered and its people, especially in the eastern areas under Soviet control, were subjected to mass rape, brutality, reprisal killings and a limited form of "ethnic cleansing" from ancient German(ic) lands. All of this occurred as revenge for the previous 3-4 years of atrocities, mass rape and murder (and genocide of Jews &c) inflicted upon Soviet POWs and subjugated people in conquered areas of the USSR, during "Operation Barbarossa" (some of which acts were actually "genocide" as considered in the post-WW2 context).
Actually I think he looks more like Sigi Schmid (former coach of the Galaxy) than Captain Kangaroo. But I agree, while this is not my favorite period in history, he made it interesting enough that I watched until the end and was actually disappointed that the lecture was over. Very well done.
Dr. Eric Cline. I listen to youtube lectures and debates to help me sleep. This one kept me up. I'm doing it again, this time watching it. Hats down to you, sir
I was very surprised at how interesting this is. I’m getting to love U tube for all the information available. I’m not bored at all, staying at home. Thank you for a great program!👍🏻
Yes, I've had numerous movie streaming accounts for years that I've barely used because RUclips is such a deep source of fascinating information. Almost like once you get a taste of it, you can't go back to watching fiction.
@@0ptimal well ,apparently you are living under the rock, otherwise you would know that there is no real information in RUclips. It's all main stream media information and common core knowledge at the best. The alternative information on any topic never pass the youtube gestapo department. So, keep learning from RUclips...Good luck ..
@@0ptimal I agree with you. I believe RUclips has some brilliant content. During this 'crisis' it has been a brilliant alternative to the disappointing mainstream media. Science, engineering, history, cooking, sporting archive etc. It's a media library and if you were in a book library, you can always skip past Mein Kampf!
But just think of all the CO² output with chariots running about all over the place......No wonder with all the modern chariots.....History does repeat itself....
When I was at school (60's) History was taught as elements on a Line - battle dates, death of kings etc. Later it was looked upon as elements within a Square. Now, and especially with this excellent lecturer, it is a Cube full of moving, interacting elements.
I was in school in the 70s-80s (SE Europe) and I did Ancient history in grade 5 and 9 (high school), medieval history grade 6 and 10, modern history grade 7 and 11, and. national history (from ancient times to modern) in grade 8 and 12. So we learned about Egyptians and their ancient kingdoms, Phoenicians, Persia, Greece, Roman empire and others around. My son, in Canada in the 2010s, did almost nothing at history, except from the 1812 war.
I once had a prof who taught modern history. He taught it n reverse, so our 20th century were so much easier to understand when I was shown how western culture in the 19th undermined near and middle eastern culture. Not to mention the far east. Which shows so much about even our lives to this day.
It's better to learn history as a timeline. One needs to know the basic facts of when and where before the discussion of the why can be had. It also takes too long to have the discussion about the debate of why something happened because there is rarely a consensus about the why. Add discussion of the why for each event and you would rarely get beyond a few events during a semester. The why needs to be confined to advanced courses or books if you want to explore a particular event.
As one often hears a professor say 'It's not my period'. It's not my period either but I clicked on it out of curiosity. After a couple of minutes, I couldn't stop watching. He speaks so honestly and everything is simply and inerestingly explained. - Absolutely fascinating, (I must look out for that new book). Thank you for givining me a very happy hour and ten minutes in this sad time of quarantine. (P.S. This could easily become "my period)
lol how do you speak "honestly" about events you haven't witnessed? No good historian who specialize in ancient societies are truly confident in their sources apart from the few rare cases where you have both multiple cohesive written accounts and archaeological evidence to back it. Most times they basically just choose to believe something someone wrote thousands of years ago, or they look at pottery and make guesses.
This is RUclips, and just last week I saw a video that suggested the Sea Peoples were Atlantians, which included somehow both the Basques, Ainu, and Aztecs. There were holes in this story and the way the information was presented did not admit countering evidence.
I took a Classics degree, a Bachelor of Arts and I think that if Dr. Cline had been my advisor, I would have hung in there and gone for the doctorate. That. Was. Brilliant!
I always regretted that the Bronze age was skipped entirely in my world history class. It was mentioned for about 3 seconds and then suddenly jumped to the golden ages of ancient Greek and Rome. I thought that era was just as interesting as the renaissance period.
@@heffalumptarkin1384 history is written by the winner. if you stop the antinazi propaganda for a second, one might start to question eradicating german civilians and dropping nukes on woman and children.
More people would learn about the Bronze Age if milestone wedding anniversaries (10, 25,50,75) had gifts tied to various ages. Digital age would be the last one, so whatever is current is good for a gift.
@@humphrex - Boo, f*cking hoo. Nazis killed millions of Russians. Stalin killed tens of millions. Now Putin is looking to restart the process. Whining about the West? Really? Look at the scale of killing before even mentioning nukes. More people died from ethnic cleansing than ever died from nukes.
The teachers don't know anything about it. They could make it relatable by watching the movie "Troy." And say, THESE people. We're talking about these people." There are other things from popular culture. Knowing Bible stories is essential. All sorts of exotic peoples and cultures that lived in the Bronze Age
The great lesson of history is that its never THAT simple. As our society increasingly craves simple answers that might be the most important lesson to be learned.
the great lesson here is the middle east is not humanities cradle of civilization , its the cradle of in humane beliefs and acts of genocide , nothing about the middle east or Mediterranean are civilized.
It’s interesting to note that this also relates to events that were happening in the Orkney Islands during the same period. Before circa 1,500 BC we had community burials at sites such as Orkahaugr and The Tomb of the Eagles, and large building projects such as the Standing Stones and the Brodgar Complex. Once we pass that date, there is a huge shift from these practices with more simple burials in cist graves, and a lack of large building projects. When we reach the 1,000 BC point, we then see the return of a more structured society with the beginning of the Broch Builders time...
Sounds like a massive volcano that erupted and people moved from the north to the Mediterranean coast. Southern coast of France and later Sardinia and Sicily. Maybe the Sardinians and Sicilians moved east due to the massive influx of people from the north. Hence where the Sea people came from. There is evidence that a massive volcano in Iceland erupted at this time.
Activity at the Neolithic Orkney structures and tombs, and most of their equivalents further south, including Stonehenge and Silbury Hill ceased quite suddenly around 2,300 BC. This coincided with the arrival of beaker culture and migrants into Britain from the east and the start of the Bronze Age (in Britain). Therefore there is a gap of about 1,000 years between the Orkney civilisation and the events in the Mediterranean, although these might have had some knock-on effect on Britain in the late Bronze Age?
@STEVEN CHARLTON Hello, and Thanks. I am interested in this 'weather/geology related' topics about the past - but as I am no professional and this topic is not yet well established in our land, I find it hard to find some info. :-)
Amazing, thoughtful presentation. As a student of ancient near eastern civilizations, this brings things together for me in a cogent and careful way that I really appreciated.
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to look at him, you would never think he could be capable of such charisma. this guy is easily one of the top 3 educators ive ever seen. absolutely nailed this topic and perfectly delivered the info while keeping it very interesting and entertaining.
thats what i thought sorry ass troll. at least jesus loves you. this i know. know why? the bible told me so. may the lord bless you and free you from your misery. love you man.
I'm gonna have to carry a marker with me so I can write "The sea peoples were here!" as a sort of history enthusiast's Kilroy. ;) Fantastic stuff. Thank you.
@@adrianseanheidmann4559 Seeing as the tone has already been lowered: Who is the most virile man in the world?.... Santa Clause; he only comes once a year, but when he does he fills your stockings!....
That was an amazing lecture, really got me thinking about things I didn't know about. Also, I love how this is proof that history is always relevant … very similar to the present day.
Robert S. I wish all teachers had the opportunity to talk about this subject. It’s easy to talk well about something you love. Not all of us are given that opportunity.
According to GISP2 Ice Core data, each great civilization of the past reached its peak during a spike in temperature, but then quickly faded in-correlation with the sharp and prolonged spell of cooling that followed. You mentioned earthquakes, there'd probably also be volcanoes which can completely decimate crops by shutting out sunlight, especially during a solar minimum. ps I loved this lecture
Your comment will not age well I think just as those predicting collapse in 2020. I know it's a good joke but I preffer jokes that have basis on reality.
@@Game_Hero as was discussed in the lecture, collapse happens over a century, not in a single year. So as 1177 is used as a short hand so could too be 2021.
Four years later...but so glad I found this or RUclips recommended it to me, anyway I rarely enjoy these lectures but this one had me from the start!! I would pay to hear this guy talk! Thank you sir!!
really what i think is that if we knew what happened in a short period of time (quick knowledge) we would have a lot of misunderstaning, new cults (like flatearthers etc. ) wars ,religious things (even if we knew that religion is a fantasy ) and other things like that ....you catch the point ..and most of all we would not hear the truth before it would appear on every platform from every big leader...we would consider that another propaganda .
Terrific presentation! Eloquent speaker, informative slides, fascinating topics that are relevant to what might lie ahead. I plan to watch it again. Thank you! Good for novices and experts both I believe.
I'm watching , but I am not worried. But then I'm 72 and most of my life is in the rear view mirror. I do appreciate that this professor is not "politically correct" ( use of B.C. ).
Interested. Not Worried. (worrying never helps you make anything but panic, make bad descision mistakes, errors. worrying never helps. it only increases retardenednes)
Watching from "work from home" self-isolation, but not worried... about covid19. More worried (concerned? sympathetic?) about all the people who have lost jobs or loved ones. Need to get the economy back on its feet and get people back to work. Came here from Tom Scott videos, check that stuff out!
An excellent lecture from Father Ted Crilly. I've watched this lecture 3 or 4 times since it was posted on youtube and it is as interesting and engaging now as it was the first time.
I’d be happy to pay to sit thru a class with this man! He was just engaging like my best history professors Points to consider and evidence to support his arguments And in the end for the people who don’t like what he has to say...he clearly says...we don’t really know...this is the hypothesis I’ve worked out but we’re not 100% sure And that makes sense there is no complete one word answer but our society wants that and can’t handle when that doesn’t come out
Excellent historical presentation! This is why I have always loved the story of history! Research backed by evidence and continued speculation. Well done!
Great lecture. The Mayans of South America inherited the belief that time was circular...(thus the Mayan calandar) and that you can forsee the future by looking at the past. They described the rise and fall of nations as "Great Ages" even incorporating the stars as signs of things to come. Interesting that a people halfway around the globe had such knowledge of the world so long ago!
I love the fact that He did not use any assumptions or took the theory that He belived is correct, but told the whole story, all the possible versions even those that He clearly does not belive is true. This is science in pure form.
This is best & most satisfying explanation that I've read/heard on this period in time. The events sound chillingly like what's going on here in the US. Thanks for the AWESOME lecture!👍👍
Brilliant lecture and a wonderful view of a parallel between a globalized world system and what is taking place today. I have shared this link with a number of my friends. ... Thank you Dr. Eric Cline. Barry Manclark Australia
I loved the video, but his analysis in the end ("ISIS as the Sea People", "There is famine") is unfortunately a bit misleading. That collapse in antiquity was so devastating because it hit the leading civilizations of the day, what he call the "G7 of the Bronze Age". Today's Middle East might be at the center of world news, but it is not in terms of the world economy. Now the Corona situation might come closer. If the outbreak in the US becomes much worse and reaches a point where it threatens the stability of society. But I remind you, that would mean a death toll high enough to permanently disrupt how the country operates, e.g. a breakdown of electricity because there are no engineers left to operate the power plants. Thankfully, they are far from there yet and (fortunately) very likely won't reach that point, despite the very tragic (and unnecessary) toll the virus had so far. Let's continue our scenario: in November, Trump does not accept his defeat and calls his supporters to march on Washington. Courtesy to the 2nd Amendment, a civil war breaks out. Needless to say, the subsequent collapse of the US Dollar and of global trade would send serious ripples across the globe. A complete parallel failure of the wheat harvests in Russia, Ukraine, Kazakhstan, Canada and the US over several years. Now if we, on top of that, have say a complete and violent breakdown of the EU, full USSR-style, devastating Earthquake in China and an abrupt end of oil supplies from the whole Middle East (all out war between Saudi-Arabia and Iran?) Maybe a nuclear war There are a lot of ifs and a lot of small probabilities there. It's not as unthinkable as we would like it to be and even on their own, many of these events would be devastating. But reaching the level of perfect storm that wiped Myceans, Minoans, Assyrian, Hethites and all the others as civilizations is quite another level.
@@maibws9170 That was the point. Sea peoples were not from the bronze-G9, they were a backwater... like the Middle East is today. And we won't need several years worth of famine, we only have around 60 days worth of food supply, globally. We're much more efficient, and unwilling to pay for insurance (stored food, etc), so we're going to have to sacrifice people. Which we're doing, only a 60-80,000 so far - but we're just getting started.
There's not too much reason to worry yet. These collapses take decades of ruinous events. No matter how bad the media portrays events today (because they make money by drumming up the news), things used to be worse. The numbers are grim, but it's good to have perspective. Coronavirus has killed 370,000 people, and will probably hit 1.5 million deaths. So, about as bad as the yearly deaths from Malaria or car crashes. Meanwhile, the "Spanish Flu" killed somewhere between 20-50 million people, and it happened at the same time as the "Great War" which also killed over 20 million people, and was followed by the Great Depression where nearly half the banks failed, international trade fell by 65%, a quarter of Americans were unemployed. And that still didn't cause a Systems Collapse.
About 30 some years ago I got a BA in Classical Studies. I remember in one of my courses that we touched upon this concept of "The Sea People" being this scourge that attacked everywhere and destroyed everything. I can remember thinking " But...these were strong interconnected countries, in communication with each other. How is it that they are all going down, one after another in a wave of collapsing cities and populations?" I knew there had to be more than one answer. Because they WOULD have done what they could to help each other, sending navies or armies to support the attacked cities. They WERE interconnected through trade and treaties, and royal marriages. But if they were all dealing with the after effects of various disasters; crop failures, extended drought, earthquake damage, civilian unrest...they wouldn't be able to leap to one another's aid. It's hard to field a capable , fit army when you can't feed your populace. If there has been internal upheaval, it's not going to be easy to organize a proper defense against a hardened, experienced group of invaders. Their societies fractured and fell because of multiple assaults. And am I the only one to be nibbling my fingernails over his list of stress factors that led to the "1177 BC" collapse that matches what's happening NOW???
Yeah its really scary. And even without this you can see there is stress in our civilization that can lead to collapse. Even before the Syrian refugees
The sea people was from Santorini Crete Rhodes etc. Except from the Greek tribes there's nobody else around here who knew how to build ships and use the stars for navigation. Greeks build the first Greek cities in Egypt at the bronze age, Egyptians on the other hand never managed to cross the sea.
"Be careful who you write to - you may know him..." This was an really entertaining lecture which I am really enjoying even as english is not my first language. Good work!
I don't think it's easy to present a lecture to an audiance in an interesting way and requires a good deal of effort. Eventually not all lecturers are willing to put that effort into their presentations, obviously. This one here is really a gem and I am actually looking on yt if he has some other lectures online :)
twothreebravo whats stopping you ? I'd go listen just for the band name. Better than "Your Wife is Backstage" Almost as good as "Free Beer and the Your Wifes not Here." w/ opener "The Nymphos"
I've been a proud Bronze Age nerd since the age of about 6. This was a good take on a period that to some extent is being (rightly) re-interpreted in the light of new science, especially genetics.
Can't believe I be chillin on this video while eating and working and this is a dang class lecture lol! Love this professor and the video production overall, thanks for sharing!
Très bien informé, étayé, cohérent et en plus Mr Cline est agréable à écouter. Et le sujet est d'actualité, c'est le moins qu'on puisse dire - et aucune chance qu'on trouve ça dans les mainstream. Merci beaucoup pour ces informations et pour la qualité de la prestation.
1178 BC is the year of the eclipse mentioned in Homer's Odyssey. The consensus sacking of Homer's Troy was in 1184 BC. That Greek oral tradition seems to emphasize this decade suggests the significance of this time period in Mediterranean cultures.
M. Ygr. You can’t say that civilation began from Greek cause the hole scructure of lies will collapse.I have read that even Maori have similarities with ancient Spartans that has Rasta hair,or white people with maiandros in japan and in polenysia.
@@ΜιχΛαζ The Red Hair and Blue Eyes of the Maoris came from North African Berber people displaced by the movement of people from the middle east as they expanded west. They crossed the Atlantic, settled Central America and then kept going west into the Pacific mingling with other races and ending up in New Zealand! One of the reasons why the Americans were taken aback by the arrival of the Spanish because they were expecting further visitors as they were told others would follow!
When he talks about only 1% being able to read or write, I have to wonder if the huge increases that we've seen over the last couple hundred years correlate directly with the democratization of literacy, if we can draw a straight line from the availability of literacy to landing on the moon. By casting a wider net you have a much greater chance to catch the Newtons and Einsteins it would seem. How many people prior to Newton could have invented calculus but were born into a world where they had no access to education? Just an interesting thought.
Yes, I agree, but remember also that the global population itself is also much, much bigger. World population was around 30-50 million. Today, 7 billion. So we also should have more Einsteins and Newtons to catch. One can imagine that a combined effect of the increase in population and the proportion of literacy in world population together might correlate well with the rise in technology. ... He did mention though, that the 1% were not necessarily the same as the aristocracy. The kings were not literate; only the scribes. To me, this suggests that they might have had some system for selecting for capability in becoming a scribe, as well as for engineers, ship builders, etc. Some way of catching Einsteins, so to speak.
brindlebriar I am sure you're at least possibly correct. I tend to thing though that even if you are correct that the largest mass of people would still have no access to education. I think that the mass of people lived below the level where they would have any access at all to education.
Jim LaGuardia Not sure what your point is. Had someone better educated Torquemada for example, if someone had educated theism out of him, he would have had a much harder time justifying torturing people to death. An educated population, one that's taught critical thinking, is insulated against falling for a Hitler, Stalin, or Trump. No one with much understanding of what happened in 1920s-30s Germany voted for Donald Trump. Education prevents fascism.
Good lecture...it points out that these well connected Civilizations all depended upon one another....add a little stress and it can collapse.. Many similarities to present day..
@@BarNuun Right, and the Romans dug up and replaced pottery, clay tablets, recarved hieroglyphics, rewrote Chinese records. Those crazy Romans sure must have been busy.
Wonderful interesting talk I use to be involved in archeology and did a ten year study in China. 12,000 BC to 500BC. Why does everyone never talk or mentions ancient China. They where very advanced at one point but then every thing seemed to collapsed and eventually started back up all over again. Don’t forget the fact that all the oceans where 400 feet lower back then. Many people traveled all over by foot from continent to continent more than by boat.
Gotta love these people who search for lectures like this and completely misinterpret or try to twist what the professor is saying to fit their biases.
What, the people comparing illegal immigration to invaders of those times? That's not misinterpreting or twisting anything the professor is saying, that is extrapolating.
Captivating. History was painful in high school with the emphasis only on dates and names. Never, a discussion of cause and effect. Found this lecture by chance as stayed glued to my laptop. Where can I find more???
It always interesting to know how things are done in another country: Here in Denmark - in the public school (Folkeskolen) - we were teached the way the teacher did it in the video. I think it is the reason to why i love history.
If Americans find this 'captivating' then god help those who are educated in USA. We know god does not help them since they require no help but are successful in destroying any semblance of civilisation which remains in any country Americans have invaded. If you wish to hear someone who may waken your apathetic minds then Christpher Hitchens is one example of someone speaking who is articulate (this big word means" good at talking" for those of you who have never been to primary school). Best of luck world, no point in me staying.
Same here. Such a shame. They did not deserve the title of educators, underestimating our intelligence like that--or they just didn't know much themselves and were too lazy to find out.
This professor is so great! He is so interesting to listen to! And the topic is very interesting. Watched a documentary on History which featured him among the other historians
"The function of the body, as a group of sustaining and protective organs for the central nervous system, is to act as buffer against sudden variations of stimulus in the physical and social environment. Sudden social failure or shame is a shock that some may "take to heart" or that may cause muscular disturbances in general, signaling for the person to withdraw from the threatening situation." [Understanding Media: The Extension of Man, Marshall McLuhan, 1964, Ch. 4: The Gadget Lover; Narcissus as Narcosis]
Around 38 minutes in, he mentions a woman sheltering in a doorframe during an earthquake. If you know to do that, it is because you're part of a group that has seen a lot of earthquakes. That's not an intuitive move. In other words, this is not evidence of _an_ earthquake. It is evidence of many earthquakes.
Good point
They assume she was sheltering, she could have been rushing either inside or outside and got struck, but it also means her body was not buried, instead was left where it fell, which on its own indicates the city was abandoned immediately, but in that case I would expect the body to have been dragged and scattered by scavengers (creatures), so I don't buy what they are saying at all based on the interpretation of that body alone.
@@_John_P If the body was buried under a lot of debris, it's possible that scavengers weren't able to get to it.
@@_John_P no it doesn't mean that her body wasn't burried. The fact they found the body at all is proof scavengers couldn't get to her. It's not prove the place was immediately abandoned. I think its more likely that nobody found her in the rubble and just like with the dinosaurs, the soil became her tomb
@@RichardsNickname People reuse stones, any pile of ruble would have been taken eventually to build walls or other structures elsewhere, exposing the remains, unless the place was abandoned and forgotten.
Dr. Clines energy for this topic is so infectious! He has me so interested in the late bronze era.
Watching this now for a second time!
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@Kellie p
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mr. or miss. legs . one should be concernd with whats going down today , not the bronze age ! just say-ing !
I know , mind my own bizz !
I love that this is freely accessible. What a time to be alive.
Exactly!!!
To what end? It is the fairy tale of a man debunking the fairy tales told him when he was a student in college. They are all fairy tales from the mouths of men and of no value. They are distractions, diversions from life.
The Rooted Word His work is researched, and evidence-based. Fairytales are imagination-based, mythology, like most of the contents of “holy” texts.
@@TheRootedWord looks like someone doesn't understand the content
@@TheRootedWord This presentation may not be for you, but your opinion does not apply to others. For most of us here, it is not a distraction or diversion, but furthering our understanding of the past. There must be people in every society who researches and keeps a record of the past. A world without people like this Professor (and his colleagues) and his lust for the truth and understanding about our world's history would be akin to some of what he talks about - things that are forgotten (and having to be re-learned later). We would not learn anything because we would forget everything that got us here in the first place. Without knowing and understanding the past we are doomed to make the same mistakes going forward. Knowing the history of past cultures and people of the world gives us perspective and many people have a wanton need to know this history. There is a famous quote, I believe is was Cornel West, who said something like, "You can't really move forward until you look back." It would take a lot longer for mankind to move forward if he does not embrace the history of the past. Mankind might even reach a point in the future where mankind can go no further because we think the past is irrelevant.
The fact that this has five million views gives me a smallish amount of hope.
I dont. I have been a history student my whole life, and I was a psychology major in college. Our liberal arts colleges can not even teach semi accurate twentieth century history. Now we have marauding young zombies screaming about a system that they have no actual knowledge of, and worshiping evil, racist, sociopaths like marx, Trotsky, and Lenin. If we dont stomp it out soon, we will see our collapse also.
@@usefulidiots3970 We also have the complicating factor of critical infrastructure that is capable of instantaneous widespread failure. At least failure propagation back then took months or years. Today, it can take seconds.
@@usefulidiots3970 AMEN!!!
@@usefulidiots3970 Wow, sociopathic fissures are closing fast.
Its also good to sleep to
I came to RUclips to watch cat videos and seventy minutes later. . . Dr. Cline, you are a great lecturer, that was really fun, thank you!
its a lie.. in Transilvania tere are artefacts that date 6000 bc .. propaganda
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Metal rock guitar lessons and now im watching THIS! What happened?! 😳
@@theodoret4556 why aren't they a major subject? Maybe because they are not decifired? Maybe they are
@granite tiger oo
Came out of curiosity, stayed an hour because this was the most interesting history lesson I've ever listened to. Why cant middle and high school history classes be taught like this?
Money.
I know why you brought it up, you wanted to tell the world how high your IQ is. Mine's 141 btw.
Adolescents are typically more concerned with hormones than history.
b/c middle and high school history teachers have not went on archaeological digs, they do not have a passion, amazing memory, and knowledge of the subject matter as does Dr. Cline. Instead we have over 12 years of public schooling, we’re meant to find out what we’re truly passionate about. Instead, those 12 years are spent developing an obsession with grades, the ability to regurgitate information, and the realization that achievement is more important than understanding.
That is because, the teachers that teach history are told to teach from a text book not to think outside the book.
This is the second of his presentations I have viewed. He knows his subject. He does not have to refer to notes. He knows his names and his dates. He is clearly a professional in every sense of the word. He knows the names in his field, the state of current digs and research. When I get a chance, I am getting his book. I’m also searching for any videos on this take on Exodus. Most of all, he’s funny and relaxed.
referring to notes is not a sign of weakness or intelligence.... Get out of here with that bullshit
He's a great presenter but he's probably given this talk on his book a million times. Referring to your notes is essential for historians because there's so many gd facts and dates.
Even when all the experts agree, they may well be wrong. - Bertrand Russell
The reasons his presentation is smooth are 1) he has excellent long term memory and 2) he is well practiced from decades of reciting to students. Excellent professors could almost give their standard lectures in their sleep. That is no insult. It comes with the job.
@@dp6003 please state your reasons ... otherwise, you will be taken for a jerk.
I watched this informative lecture two years ago. But, RUclips algorithms recommended I watch it again. It is worth the second viewing.
I'll uh jj
I’ll just bet your right. Think of what life would be like if we had access to this stuff as kids on a Friday night.
I'm here too!
Same
Fake! Those people with families were refugees of the invasions of Sea Peoples. Also the depictions (of those invasion wars) depicts (and not only in Egypt) all kind of people which were all involved in these wars and migrations, are NOT all the infamous Sea Peoples, but ALL peoples involved in these wars, the autochton victims, plus the invaders). Many fake info (and all based on BS and infantile speculations) is today being purposely spread allover Media concerning the Sea Peoples, but the real informations, based on real proof (also thoroughly documented by the greatest history investigator of all times, Dinu Costel Linta aka "DCL" or "LCD") exists allready, about WHO were the Sea Peoples, documented also by the Egyptian tablets (as well as the Babylonian ones), and even by this very guy in this clip, but when he was younger, sane and incoruptibile, in another clip (See "The Colaps of the Bronze Age Civilisation" documentary on youtube, about the "Sea People", the perpetual killers of the human race, who they are/were: ruclips.net/video/MjuZjHpxUWQ/видео.html ), long before he was hansomly paid by the Sea Peoples of today (who owes the Media, the banks etc.) to divert the atention from them (the descendents of the Sea Peoples), to other cheap fairytales for weak minds (as a sane person sees through it right away), as the comediant type speculations in this clip shows.
This is what I miss about college sometimes. Listening to a history professor who loves his or her subject.
Welcome to the good part of RUclips :D
@@LithiumFusion1 I know right. If only more people would watch stuff like this rather than 'reality' TV we would be a more advanced species. lol
He is a fine lecturer, but what he says is an opinion set, hardly more than 140 years old.
To pass his course, indeed all of this opinion must be followed... or you will fail the course.
But his thoughts are countered by many other enquiring people today. And the truth?
The pharaoh he calls 'Rameses III, in 1177 BC', is really a much later famous monarch
called Apries by Greek authors and Khophra by a Hebrew prophet. And he was alive and
well in the lifetimes of Jeremiah, Plato, Thales of Miletes and Zedekiah, the last king of Judah.
This pharaoh famously sailed his fleet to Cyprus, defeated the Cypriot fleet and then conquered
the island itself. He used the captured booty to build some nice monuments back home in Egypt.
After that, the entire eastern Mediterranean region was ravaged by the Babylonian tide.
@@jkeister I was going to skip this video until I read your comment. * Presses Play *
@@christophermills9289 haha good comment. This stuff does not just keep me sane, it gives me joy in lockdown.
I can only imagine how much more we would know if books, art, statues and other things weren't destroyed in wars and fires.
@Saint Lucifer They're all awful at destroying knowledge and culture. It even happens today. It's awful.
Imagine how much extra junk we would have and how costly it would be to keep it all cataloged and in good condition. We could all do with less junk.
An ancient historian friend once claimed that I, who study modern U.S. history, have access to more information on any one YEAR in the 1930s than he does to ALL of antiquity. I doubted his claim -- at first. Then I thought about all the books, magazines, and newspapers I could get in one way/form or another from, say, 1937. Then I moved on to art and popular culture sources: paintings, photography, illustrations, sculptures, movies, radio show recordings, music recordings, sheet music, comic books, etc., etc., and then all the manuscripts sources in archives: diaries, letters, oral histories, and so much more. Yup, he had less than that from thousands of years of the ancient world. Amazing that we can piece together what we have to create anything like a coherent story.
George B but black lives matter. Marxist iconoclasts
Karen Houser the Actual Academic Art world- around the world, tho lib, is loosing our shit. Iconoclasm is our cross! Burning books and toppling democratic symbols has never gone well historically. Out side of click bait and media prompts there is massive legislative power working to restore history for fear its further white washed. Heritage monuments will be restored to higher glory and their importance in public space every more honored. Toppling monuments is a crime against humanity, so internationally defended against, not just our nation; its part of media (art=1st amendment control) consciousness suppression, dare I say wafting with Marxism.
One of best talks i have seen. He is the sort of lecturer that would make study a pleasure!
He knows so well what he wants to communicate, how to spend the time allotted. So many lecturers are hampered by narrow thinking, like being slaves of their own powerpoints.
Yes, I was thinking about how refreshing it is to listen and flow the line of thought so pleasantly.
Many that I have listened to in the past on similar subjectsI didn't continue to listen to as the lecturer was boring and uninspiring. This guy not only knew what he was talking about was also quite entertaining making the topic interesting, and as a result I listened to it all and learned a great deal. Well done!
Could not agree more. He knows how to communicate.
@Jeff Addinsall
Very good lecture. After years of history classes and reading history books this in perhaps one of the best explanations of what took place in this area. Thank you. I really enjoyed listening to you. And, yes, history does repeat itself and those who refuse to learn history are destined to re-learn it, i.e. “us today”.
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He’s fantastic! Laughing all the way to lunchtime.
As a layperson untrained in archeology, this is utterly fascinating -- particularly the numerous parallels that can be drawn between 3200 years ago and now. We have a lot still to learn from the ancient world.
the point ov history is to learn from it. but the way sociaty uses it i think it may be best to use history as a playbill. as in 'OH a global pandimic... yep leads to food and fuel resource loss and panic in smaller countries.... rome fell to less. LETS GO COVID/SHRI LANKA!!"
The global warming-climate change bandwagon just keeps rolling.
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They don't want you to know the truth
What have we got to learn, More ancient ignorance and superstition.
NO thank you.
What's fascinating about the bronze age collapse is that it was a complete apocalypse for most of the world.
An extinction of society never before seen.
If you're arguing with your spouse over the Trojan War rather than mortgage payments or infidelity, you got a *good* marriage.
i'd like someone to argue about history with...
Unless maybe if her name is Helen?
You may think that but you’d be wrong.
Valentina Valley That’s a stretch.
@Valentina Valley Destroying enemy cities and expelling and even eradicating entire populations was, sadly, not uncommon in the Ancient Era: the Assyrians, Babylonians, Egyptians, Greeks/Macedonians, Hebrews, Huns, Romans, and barbarian tribes all practiced this to varying degrees. However, this mostly wasn't "genocide" as it's understood post WW2, but rather an often merciless waging of total war against enemy states and their peoples, and the savagery unleashed by a victorious army upon a defeated enemy after suffering large losses in combat.
This has been seen throughout history, including WW2 after the Nazi German state was conquered and its people, especially in the eastern areas under Soviet control, were subjected to mass rape, brutality, reprisal killings and a limited form of "ethnic cleansing" from ancient German(ic) lands. All of this occurred as revenge for the previous 3-4 years of atrocities, mass rape and murder (and genocide of Jews &c) inflicted upon Soviet POWs and subjugated people in conquered areas of the USSR, during "Operation Barbarossa" (some of which acts were actually "genocide" as considered in the post-WW2 context).
I gotta say, Cap’n Kangaroo is one of the best lecturers I’ve ever listened to . Precise, entertaining, and a pleasure to listen to! ! Bravo!!!
Mike Charron WOW! Someone else remembers Captain Kangaroo! Glad to know I’m not the only one!!
Jan Zimny
Ditto! Friendly Giant was earlier but still on when I was a kid. Captain w Moose!
m.ruclips.net/video/SSpPyTNSlTU/видео.html
yes - surprising, considering it was usually mr green jeans that i found more interesting...
So, was he one of the Sea People?
Actually I think he looks more like Sigi Schmid (former coach of the Galaxy) than Captain Kangaroo. But I agree, while this is not my favorite period in history, he made it interesting enough that I watched until the end and was actually disappointed that the lecture was over. Very well done.
Dr Cline has a lovely, spontaneous & conversational manner of presentation. With humoristic puns, it makes it entertaining. 😊
Dr. Eric Cline. I listen to youtube lectures and debates to help me sleep. This one kept me up. I'm doing it again, this time watching it. Hats down to you, sir
3.2k dislikes are from Sea People
Lol anti sea peoples propaganda
The dang sea peoples
@Boz Scaggs it shows the number of dislikes next to likes king
No, it's probably from Fundamentalist Christians because he said the time of the Exodus, "if it took place."
Or earthquakes.
I was very surprised at how interesting this is. I’m getting to love U tube for all the information available. I’m not bored at all, staying at home. Thank you for a great program!👍🏻
Yes, I've had numerous movie streaming accounts for years that I've barely used because RUclips is such a deep source of fascinating information. Almost like once you get a taste of it, you can't go back to watching fiction.
You are joking , right ? WHAT INFORMATION ?
@@ileavazan7693 strange question to ask.
@@0ptimal well ,apparently you are living under the rock, otherwise you would know that there is no real information in RUclips. It's all main stream media information and common core knowledge at the best. The alternative information on any topic never pass the youtube gestapo department. So, keep learning from RUclips...Good luck ..
@@0ptimal I agree with you. I believe RUclips has some brilliant content. During this 'crisis' it has been a brilliant alternative to the disappointing mainstream media.
Science, engineering, history, cooking, sporting archive etc.
It's a media library and if you were in a book library, you can always skip past Mein Kampf!
Absolutely loved this lecture, brilliant, accurate, accesible and very humorous! Definitely I have become a follower of Dr. Cline!
imagine you have to travel the same routes 4 times, dodging sea peoples, hippos, and pirates just because you deliver the wrong sandals to Hammurabi.
Worth it, using the discount Hammurabi Code.
Ha ha ha!!! I can just imagine the mumbling under the breath now!
More likely to get a refund or get back the right product than from Amazon now with all the modern stuff we got.
Probably more reliable delivery than USPS.
But just think of all the CO² output with chariots running about all over the place......No wonder with all the modern chariots.....History does repeat itself....
When I was at school (60's) History was taught as elements on a Line - battle dates, death of kings etc.
Later it was looked upon as elements within a Square.
Now, and especially with this excellent lecturer, it is a Cube full of moving, interacting elements.
I was in school in the 70s-80s (SE Europe) and I did Ancient history in grade 5 and 9 (high school), medieval history grade 6 and 10, modern history grade 7 and 11, and. national history (from ancient times to modern) in grade 8 and 12. So we learned about Egyptians and their ancient kingdoms, Phoenicians, Persia, Greece, Roman empire and others around. My son, in Canada in the 2010s, did almost nothing at history, except from the 1812 war.
Machine learn algorithms will take it to the hypercube and beyond.
I once had a prof who taught modern history. He taught it n reverse, so our 20th century were so much easier to understand when I was shown how western culture in the 19th undermined near and middle eastern culture. Not to mention the far east. Which shows so much about even our lives to this day.
It's better to learn history as a timeline. One needs to know the basic facts of when and where before the discussion of the why can be had. It also takes too long to have the discussion about the debate of why something happened because there is rarely a consensus about the why. Add discussion of the why for each event and you would rarely get beyond a few events during a semester. The why needs to be confined to advanced courses or books if you want to explore a particular event.
A hypercube
As one often hears a professor say 'It's not my period'. It's not my period either but I clicked on it out of curiosity. After a couple of minutes, I couldn't stop watching. He speaks so honestly and everything is simply and inerestingly explained. - Absolutely fascinating, (I must look out for that new book). Thank you for givining me a very happy hour and ten minutes in this sad time of quarantine. (P.S. This could easily become "my period)
lol how do you speak "honestly" about events you haven't witnessed? No good historian who specialize in ancient societies are truly confident in their sources apart from the few rare cases where you have both multiple cohesive written accounts and archaeological evidence to back it. Most times they basically just choose to believe something someone wrote thousands of years ago, or they look at pottery and make guesses.
This is RUclips, and just last week I saw a video that suggested the Sea Peoples were Atlantians, which included somehow both the Basques, Ainu, and Aztecs. There were holes in this story and the way the information was presented did not admit countering evidence.
@@BarNuun When you started with Velikovsky I stopped reading.
I am not into archeology at all, nor history at this level, but I watched it to the end. So well presented.
What a great speaker. Good voice & knows his material. I was never interested in archaeology or anthropology but this was captivating.
I took a Classics degree, a Bachelor of Arts and I think that if Dr. Cline had been my advisor, I would have hung in there and gone for the doctorate. That. Was. Brilliant!
Last week, I visited Tiryns & Mycenae again. When combined with your lectures, these places come to life with time travel effect-
I always regretted that the Bronze age was skipped entirely in my world history class. It was mentioned for about 3 seconds and then suddenly jumped to the golden ages of ancient Greek and Rome. I thought that era was just as interesting as the renaissance period.
@@heffalumptarkin1384 history is written by the winner. if you stop the antinazi propaganda for a second, one might start to question eradicating german civilians and dropping nukes on woman and children.
More people would learn about the Bronze Age if milestone wedding anniversaries (10, 25,50,75) had gifts tied to various ages. Digital age would be the last one, so whatever is current is good for a gift.
@@humphrex - Boo, f*cking hoo. Nazis killed millions of Russians. Stalin killed tens of millions. Now Putin is looking to restart the process. Whining about the West? Really? Look at the scale of killing before even mentioning nukes. More people died from ethnic cleansing than ever died from nukes.
The teachers don't know anything about it. They could make it relatable by watching the movie "Troy." And say, THESE people. We're talking about these people." There are other things from popular culture. Knowing Bible stories is essential. All sorts of exotic peoples and cultures that lived in the Bronze Age
@Joshua Pray Many respected historians disagree with you. Professor Donald Kagan of Harvard to mention only one.
It’s been a pleasure to listen to this excellent lecture while on a hike in Western Siberia! Greetings from Russia!
The great lesson of history is that its never THAT simple. As our society increasingly craves simple answers that might be the most important lesson to be learned.
the great lesson here is the middle east is not humanities cradle of civilization , its the cradle of in humane beliefs and acts of genocide ,
nothing about the middle east or Mediterranean are civilized.
Nah, it’s simple because our brains are too feeble
Ossie Dunstan errr - a sweeping generalisation
@@ossiedunstan4419 I think your getting your geography mixed up it's Europe your talking about.
@Tony Wilson well said.
It’s interesting to note that this also relates to events that were happening in the Orkney Islands during the same period.
Before circa 1,500 BC we had community burials at sites such as Orkahaugr and The Tomb of the Eagles, and large building projects such as the Standing Stones and the Brodgar Complex.
Once we pass that date, there is a huge shift from these practices with more simple burials in cist graves, and a lack of large building projects.
When we reach the 1,000 BC point, we then see the return of a more structured society with the beginning of the Broch Builders time...
Sounds like a massive volcano that erupted and people moved from the north to the Mediterranean coast. Southern coast of France and later Sardinia and Sicily. Maybe the Sardinians and Sicilians moved east due to the massive influx of people from the north. Hence where the Sea people came from.
There is evidence that a massive volcano in Iceland erupted at this time.
@@bubba842 Hello. Can You please recommend me some reliable resource on this topic ?
Activity at the Neolithic Orkney structures and tombs, and most of their equivalents further south, including Stonehenge and Silbury Hill ceased quite suddenly around 2,300 BC. This coincided with the arrival of beaker culture and migrants into Britain from the east and the start of the Bronze Age (in Britain). Therefore there is a gap of about 1,000 years between the Orkney civilisation and the events in the Mediterranean, although these might have had some knock-on effect on Britain in the late Bronze Age?
@@giderahwolf It seems that there is a possibility of several eruptions around Iceland - premium.weatherweb.net/weather-in-history-400-to-100bc/
@STEVEN CHARLTON Hello, and Thanks. I am interested in this 'weather/geology related' topics about the past - but as I am no professional and this topic is not yet well established in our land, I find it hard to find some info. :-)
Amazing, thoughtful presentation. As a student of ancient near eastern civilizations, this brings things together for me in a cogent and careful way that I really appreciated.
Husband: OH SO YOU'RE JUST GONNA IGNORE THE DESTRUCTION LAYERS AT HISARLIK?
Wife: YOU KEEP USING THAT TONE WITH ME AND I'LL SHOW YOU A NEW KIND OF DESTRUCTION LAYER
Top comment! You win the internet today!
Nice... very witty.
..divorce papers delivered inside a small wooden horse, given ostensibly as a gift..
Husband: I concede
to look at him, you would never think he could be capable of such charisma. this guy is easily one of the top 3 educators ive ever seen. absolutely nailed this topic and perfectly delivered the info while keeping it very interesting and entertaining.
but not truth.
why not truth? In 1 line can you give 1-2 reasons please - it's not my field and would appreciate alternative views. Thx
why are you here Arthur?
Arthur Bonehead.
thats what i thought sorry ass troll. at least jesus loves you. this i know. know why? the bible told me so. may the lord bless you and free you from your misery. love you man.
It's a pleasure to hear a man who knows what he's talking about
What an excellent Lecturer, giving a highly interesting presentation. All Teachers should be this engaging.
This was a total waste of time. Tell me one solution to fix things today.
Where were you when I was in school. You are the best teacher I've seen in quite a while. Thank you.
I'm gonna have to carry a marker with me so I can write "The sea peoples were here!" as a sort of history enthusiast's Kilroy. ;)
Fantastic stuff. Thank you.
@Jeremy Kirkpatrick Yes, me too! lol
@Jeremy Kirkpatrick Are you Semen??
@@adrianseanheidmann4559 Seeing as the tone has already been lowered:
Who is the most virile man in the world?....
Santa Clause; he only comes once a year, but when he does he fills your stockings!....
It was Walpole
YOU KNOW KILROY??? I KNOW KILROY TOO!!!
This was EXCELLENT! Thanks for posting Eric Cline's lecture.
2nd time I've watched this lecture and took away more than the first time. I wish my professors were as entertaining when I was in college...
That was an amazing lecture, really got me thinking about things I didn't know about. Also, I love how this is proof that history is always relevant … very similar to the present day.
3rd time I'm watching this. What a great presentation. I wish all teachers were this good at keeping our attention and imparting a ton of info.. :)
lol. This may be the third time I've watched it. It's great.
@@Dadecorban 9th time
@Jeremy Kirkpatrick Or because it's interesting
Second time for me.
Robert S. I wish all teachers had the opportunity to talk about this subject. It’s easy to talk well about something you love. Not all of us are given that opportunity.
According to GISP2 Ice Core data, each great civilization of the past reached its peak during a spike in temperature, but then quickly faded in-correlation with the sharp and prolonged spell of cooling that followed. You mentioned earthquakes, there'd probably also be volcanoes which can completely decimate crops by shutting out sunlight, especially during a solar minimum. ps I loved this lecture
The ash which settles on crop land can also decimate crops.
Aren't we headed into a solar minimum?
They didnt have led lights back then
You can watch civilizations by there economic systems
Except that Cline is a religious zealot who alters history to suit religious beliefs and not the truth.
1177 : civilization collapses. 2021: hold my mead.
Your comment will not age well I think just as those predicting collapse in 2020. I know it's a good joke but I preffer jokes that have basis on reality.
@@Game_Hero as was discussed in the lecture, collapse happens over a century, not in a single year. So as 1177 is used as a short hand so could too be 2021.
@@Game_Hero if you have a preference of jokes then you don't understand humour. js
@@rorythomson3439 And why not 2001 or 1993 or 1948?
@@Game_Hero no reason why not. Only time will tell. 2021 is just the most nialistic year of this generation I guess lol
Four years later...but so glad I found this or RUclips recommended it to me, anyway I rarely enjoy these lectures but this one had me from the start!! I would pay to hear this guy talk! Thank you sir!!
Nice way to convey information. I will put the book in my buying list.
So interesting with ancient history. I'm sure we would be blown away if knew all that has happened on this earth.
Shepherds Chapel. Pastor Arnold Murray. Chek' it.
Daniel Willett 🙏🏼 I just looked him up and watching now.
really what i think is that if we knew what happened in a short period of time (quick knowledge) we would have a lot of misunderstaning, new cults (like flatearthers etc. ) wars ,religious things (even if we knew that religion is a fantasy ) and other things like that ....you catch the point ..and most of all we would not hear the truth before it would appear on every platform from every big leader...we would consider that another propaganda .
Yes, like who shot Kennedy, Lincoln & J.R.
Their killers still run free, people! It's a dangerous world we live in.
indeed.
Thank you Professor Cline, that was a very interesting and informative lecture, delivered with great passion and humor.
Nice teacher!
I like him a lot.
Terrific presentation! Eloquent speaker, informative slides, fascinating topics that are relevant to what might lie ahead. I plan to watch it again. Thank you! Good for novices and experts both I believe.
Who's watching this from their Quarantine and feeling particularly worried?
I'm watching , but I am not worried. But then I'm 72 and most of my life is in the rear view mirror. I do appreciate that this professor is not "politically correct" ( use of B.C. ).
Yes, and Yes.
Interested. Not Worried. (worrying never helps you make anything but panic, make bad descision mistakes, errors. worrying never helps. it only increases retardenednes)
I've already seen it. Worried about why the algorithm suggested it to me again. Worried about why I'm watching it again.
Watching from "work from home" self-isolation, but not worried... about covid19. More worried (concerned? sympathetic?) about all the people who have lost jobs or loved ones. Need to get the economy back on its feet and get people back to work. Came here from Tom Scott videos, check that stuff out!
An excellent lecture from Father Ted Crilly. I've watched this lecture 3 or 4 times since it was posted on youtube and it is as interesting and engaging now as it was the first time.
Except for the 3rd Sunday in June of course, when it's ok.
Great lecture, fine sense of humour and perfect tie!
I’ve had this on my watch list for a long time. It was even better than I had hoped it would be.
I’d be happy to pay to sit thru a class with this man!
He was just engaging like my best history professors
Points to consider and evidence to support his arguments
And in the end for the people who don’t like what he has to say...he clearly says...we don’t really know...this is the hypothesis I’ve worked out but we’re not 100% sure
And that makes sense there is no complete one word answer but our society wants that and can’t handle when that doesn’t come out
this even better than a movie or a play, isnt? I'll pay too
Excellent historical presentation! This is why I have always loved the story of history! Research backed by evidence and continued speculation. Well done!
Great lecture. The Mayans of South America inherited the belief that time was circular...(thus the Mayan calandar) and that you can forsee the future by looking at the past. They described the rise and fall of nations as "Great Ages"
even incorporating the stars as signs of things to come.
Interesting that a people halfway around the globe had such knowledge of the world so long ago!
A very relaxed, easy manner of speaking. The best style from which to learn.
And a little self-deprecating humor. Nice mix.
And with an enthusiasm for the subject. Infectious.
Well researched and explained. I learned a lot. Good teacher.😊
I love the fact that He did not use any assumptions or took the theory that He belived is correct, but told the whole story, all the possible versions even those that He clearly does not belive is true. This is science in pure form.
This is best & most satisfying explanation that I've read/heard on this period in time.
The events sound chillingly like what's going on here in the US.
Thanks for the AWESOME lecture!👍👍
I'm half way through and I'm already going, 'what a great lecture'. Brilliant exposition.
Brilliant lecture and a wonderful view of a parallel between a globalized world system and what is taking place today. I have shared this link with a number of my friends. ... Thank you Dr. Eric Cline. Barry Manclark Australia
My wife and I argue about Trojans at home too. But that's a subject for a whole other lecture.
She propably suggests the samler sizes, right?
Yes, she is incredibly worried how infested her computer is.
well that escalated quickly.
The Reaction Does she call Bullshit too? Like scholars do to this video?
Mick G. hi no no
My company has no idea they pay me money to sit and watch these sorts of videos in the middle of any given Tuesday.
I found this today and i find the latter part rather chilling, when applied to what is going on today.
Good I'll watch it for the Doom, Gloom, Death and Destruction! What more could we possibly need?
Me too. Lessons from History.
I loved the video, but his analysis in the end ("ISIS as the Sea People", "There is famine") is unfortunately a bit misleading. That collapse in antiquity was so devastating because it hit the leading civilizations of the day, what he call the "G7 of the Bronze Age". Today's Middle East might be at the center of world news, but it is not in terms of the world economy.
Now the Corona situation might come closer. If the outbreak in the US becomes much worse and reaches a point where it threatens the stability of society. But I remind you, that would mean a death toll high enough to permanently disrupt how the country operates, e.g. a breakdown of electricity because there are no engineers left to operate the power plants. Thankfully, they are far from there yet and (fortunately) very likely won't reach that point, despite the very tragic (and unnecessary) toll the virus had so far.
Let's continue our scenario: in November, Trump does not accept his defeat and calls his supporters to march on Washington. Courtesy to the 2nd Amendment, a civil war breaks out.
Needless to say, the subsequent collapse of the US Dollar and of global trade would send serious ripples across the globe. A complete parallel failure of the wheat harvests in Russia, Ukraine, Kazakhstan, Canada and the US over several years. Now if we, on top of that, have say a complete and violent breakdown of the EU, full USSR-style, devastating Earthquake in China and an abrupt end of oil supplies from the whole Middle East (all out war between Saudi-Arabia and Iran?) Maybe a nuclear war
There are a lot of ifs and a lot of small probabilities there. It's not as unthinkable as we would like it to be and even on their own, many of these events would be devastating. But reaching the level of perfect storm that wiped Myceans, Minoans, Assyrian, Hethites and all the others as civilizations is quite another level.
@@maibws9170 That was the point. Sea peoples were not from the bronze-G9, they were a backwater... like the Middle East is today. And we won't need several years worth of famine, we only have around 60 days worth of food supply, globally. We're much more efficient, and unwilling to pay for insurance (stored food, etc), so we're going to have to sacrifice people. Which we're doing, only a 60-80,000 so far - but we're just getting started.
There's not too much reason to worry yet. These collapses take decades of ruinous events. No matter how bad the media portrays events today (because they make money by drumming up the news), things used to be worse.
The numbers are grim, but it's good to have perspective.
Coronavirus has killed 370,000 people, and will probably hit 1.5 million deaths. So, about as bad as the yearly deaths from Malaria or car crashes.
Meanwhile, the "Spanish Flu" killed somewhere between 20-50 million people, and it happened at the same time as the "Great War" which also killed over 20 million people, and was followed by the Great Depression where nearly half the banks failed, international trade fell by 65%, a quarter of Americans were unemployed.
And that still didn't cause a Systems Collapse.
About 30 some years ago I got a BA in Classical Studies. I remember in one of my courses that we touched upon this concept of "The Sea People" being this scourge that attacked everywhere and destroyed everything. I can remember thinking " But...these were strong interconnected countries, in communication with each other. How is it that they are all going down, one after another in a wave of collapsing cities and populations?" I knew there had to be more than one answer. Because they WOULD have done what they could to help each other, sending navies or armies to support the attacked cities. They WERE interconnected through trade and treaties, and royal marriages.
But if they were all dealing with the after effects of various disasters; crop failures, extended drought, earthquake damage, civilian unrest...they wouldn't be able to leap to one another's aid. It's hard to field a capable , fit army when you can't feed your populace. If there has been internal upheaval, it's not going to be easy to organize a proper defense against a hardened, experienced group of invaders. Their societies fractured and fell because of multiple assaults.
And am I the only one to be nibbling my fingernails over his list of stress factors that led to the "1177 BC" collapse that matches what's happening NOW???
Yeah its really scary. And even without this you can see there is stress in our civilization that can lead to collapse. Even before the Syrian refugees
Adûnâi so you believe those third world countries will prosper and destroy all civilization?
Globalisation and multi-culture are weakening societies at all times in history.
And who knew that fantasy had such amazing health benefits? Oh, btw; Rump and Rocket Man are no longer a "thing."
The sea people was from Santorini Crete Rhodes etc. Except from the Greek tribes there's nobody else around here who knew how to build ships and use the stars for navigation. Greeks build the first Greek cities in Egypt at the bronze age, Egyptians on the other hand never managed to cross the sea.
"Be careful who you write to - you may know him..."
This was an really entertaining lecture which I am really enjoying even as english is not my first language. Good work!
He's fun to listen to, isn't he. If only all lecturers had his gift :-)
I don't think it's easy to present a lecture to an audiance in an interesting way and requires a good deal of effort. Eventually not all lecturers are willing to put that effort into their presentations, obviously.
This one here is really a gem and I am actually looking on yt if he has some other lectures online :)
Thank you for making this available for free.
I'm three minutes in and I already love this guy! It's great having access to material like this!
Death Pits of Ur?
That would be an amazing Metal band name
I actually saw Death Pits of Ur open for Metallica in Toronto, in 1994.
twothreebravo whats stopping you ? I'd go listen just for the band name.
Better than "Your Wife is Backstage" Almost as good as "Free Beer and the Your Wifes not Here."
w/ opener "The Nymphos"
sounds like a Bal-Sagoth song name, but a little bit too short for a Bal-Sagoth song name hahaha
Sounds like a fantasy prison mine
Check out Nile from the US. Their songs are inspired by Egyptian, Hittite, & Sumerian mythology.
I've been a proud Bronze Age nerd since the age of about 6. This was a good take on a period that to some extent is being (rightly) re-interpreted in the light of new science, especially genetics.
Hence the name giving " COLON- nizers
Can't believe I be chillin on this video while eating and working and this is a dang class lecture lol! Love this professor and the video production overall, thanks for sharing!
"Everybody is marrying each others daughters" is prob the most compact description of the ancient world i have ever heard
The creation didn't have alot of mileage on it yet so it was ok.
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What a brilliant lecture by Eric Cline. Very informative!
This is fantastically entertaining. One of the few times I've been delighted by RUclips's recommendations.
RUclips has been recommending this to me for quite some time now, and I've always ignored it. I finally decided to give in. I'm so glad I did!
Dr H Klein, why couldn't my history teachers make it as easy as you did to understand this period? 10/10
We learn from history that we learn nothing from history.
We learn that people do the same things the we do differently.
Lewis takes the cake for the most profound comment
Its because Spengler was and is a idiot. Along with Toynbee.
It most be history starts and ends with their own small life
Lewis Taishoff The Sodomy is the last sign before the complete destruction of a civilization.
Fascinating historical review and a very engaging and knowledgeable speaker, a pleasure to watch and learn, and wonder. Thank you.
Great, great presentation. Thanks Dr. Cline for making it available.
Très bien informé, étayé, cohérent et en plus Mr Cline est agréable à écouter. Et le sujet est d'actualité, c'est le moins qu'on puisse dire - et aucune chance qu'on trouve ça dans les mainstream. Merci beaucoup pour ces informations et pour la qualité de la prestation.
Brilliant in both conception and delivery - one of the finest lectures I have heard
1178 BC is the year of the eclipse mentioned in Homer's Odyssey. The consensus sacking of Homer's Troy was in 1184 BC. That Greek oral tradition seems to emphasize this decade suggests the significance of this time period in Mediterranean cultures.
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Andrew Sickafoose nice point friend some ancient explanation may seem wierd but may not be literally that what is been subscribed.
M. Ygr. You can’t say that civilation began from Greek cause the hole scructure of lies will collapse.I have read that even Maori have similarities with ancient Spartans that has Rasta hair,or white people with maiandros in japan and in polenysia.
@@ΜιχΛαζ The Red Hair and Blue Eyes of the Maoris came from North African Berber people displaced by the movement of people from the middle east as they expanded west. They crossed the Atlantic, settled Central America and then kept going west into the Pacific mingling with other races and ending up in New Zealand! One of the reasons why the Americans were taken aback by the arrival of the Spanish because they were expecting further visitors as they were told others would follow!
When he talks about only 1% being able to read or write, I have to wonder if the huge increases that we've seen over the last couple hundred years correlate directly with the democratization of literacy, if we can draw a straight line from the availability of literacy to landing on the moon. By casting a wider net you have a much greater chance to catch the Newtons and Einsteins it would seem. How many people prior to Newton could have invented calculus but were born into a world where they had no access to education? Just an interesting thought.
Yes, I agree, but remember also that the global population itself is also much, much bigger. World population was around 30-50 million. Today, 7 billion. So we also should have more Einsteins and Newtons to catch. One can imagine that a combined effect of the increase in population and the proportion of literacy in world population together might correlate well with the rise in technology. ...
He did mention though, that the 1% were not necessarily the same as the aristocracy. The kings were not literate; only the scribes. To me, this suggests that they might have had some system for selecting for capability in becoming a scribe, as well as for engineers, ship builders, etc. Some way of catching Einsteins, so to speak.
brindlebriar I am sure you're at least possibly correct. I tend to thing though that even if you are correct that the largest mass of people would still have no access to education. I think that the mass of people lived below the level where they would have any access at all to education.
No Way When you educate the populace, you not only educate Einstein and Newton, but also Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Torquemada.
Jim LaGuardia Not sure what your point is. Had someone better educated Torquemada for example, if someone had educated theism out of him, he would have had a much harder time justifying torturing people to death. An educated population, one that's taught critical thinking, is insulated against falling for a Hitler, Stalin, or Trump. No one with much understanding of what happened in 1920s-30s Germany voted for Donald Trump. Education prevents fascism.
Genius, spirituality, evil... can't be learned in school. These are gifts. Tesla could do calculus in his head, learn that!
What a pleasant lecturer. All professors should watch and listen.
Super presentation and I learned a lot. This man has a real gift of orating~!! Thanks for the class.
This is worth another view! I’ve already shared it. Time to see it again.
One lesson from this lecture is that nations in the middle east are connected and the collapse of one leads to the collapse of another...
interesting point!
Best explanation of Bronze Age collapse I've heard presented all in one place. Thanks.
Good lecture...it points out that these well connected Civilizations all depended upon one another....add a little stress and it can collapse..
Many similarities to present day..
@@BarNuun Right, and the Romans dug up and replaced pottery, clay tablets, recarved hieroglyphics, rewrote Chinese records. Those crazy Romans sure must have been busy.
You just " unintentionally" explained my D. N. A. Results... That explains so much! Thank you!
Wonderful interesting talk I use to be involved in archeology and did a ten year study in China. 12,000 BC to 500BC. Why does everyone never talk or mentions ancient China. They where very advanced at one point but then every thing seemed to collapsed and eventually started back up all over again. Don’t forget the fact that all the oceans where 400 feet lower back then. Many people traveled all over by foot from continent to continent more than by boat.
Very good presentation, well thought out, multi-dynamic disaster sequences.
Gotta love these people who search for lectures like this and completely misinterpret or try to twist what the professor is saying to fit their biases.
Welcome to youtube.
Welcome to academia. Educated profs are not immune to human fallacies.
In my experience they are in fact prone to them. Not all of them of course
What, the people comparing illegal immigration to invaders of those times?
That's not misinterpreting or twisting anything the professor is saying, that is extrapolating.
They're just connecting the past to the present and showing how it relates and what we can learn from it as far as I can tell
Captivating. History was painful in high school with the emphasis only on dates and names. Never, a discussion of cause and effect. Found this lecture by chance as stayed glued to my laptop. Where can I find more???
It always interesting to know how things are done in another country: Here in Denmark - in the public school (Folkeskolen) - we were teached the way the teacher did it in the video.
I think it is the reason to why i love history.
If Americans find this 'captivating' then god help those who are educated in USA. We know god does not help them since they require no help but are successful in destroying any semblance of civilisation which remains in any country Americans have invaded. If you wish to hear someone who may waken your apathetic minds then Christpher Hitchens is one example of someone speaking who is articulate (this big word means" good at talking" for those of you who have never been to primary school).
Best of luck world, no point in me staying.
still need to be careful as to how "true" these theories are and what the dark controllers have distorted
example: what isis (mossad/cia/mi6) was intent on destroying
Same here. Such a shame. They did not deserve the title of educators, underestimating our intelligence like that--or they just didn't know much themselves and were too lazy to find out.
A lovely and relaxed lecturing style, which I think is very encouraging to learning.
What an amazing lecture! I could listen to Cline all day.
This professor is so great! He is so interesting to listen to! And the topic is very interesting. Watched a documentary on History which featured him among the other historians
"The function of the body, as a group of sustaining and protective organs for the central nervous system, is to act as buffer against sudden variations of stimulus in the physical and social environment. Sudden social failure or shame is a shock that some may "take to heart" or that may cause muscular disturbances in general, signaling for the person to withdraw from the threatening situation."
[Understanding Media: The Extension of Man, Marshall McLuhan, 1964, Ch. 4: The Gadget Lover; Narcissus as Narcosis]
Podcast Tip: Episode 2 of Ancient Greece Declassified is an interesting interview with Eric Cline.
Excellent conference! Impressive the last two slides showing how similar it is the situation nowadays and 33 centuries ago!!
Matthew 24:22, Halleluyah.