The free thinkers, freaks, weirdos, what have you. You could fit emos in there too. The portion of society who's more perceptive of the world around them than self-aware. Highlighting their existence makes me think they wanted this sector of people because they buy expensive niche items that are otherwise hard to sell. In order to even be a beatnik you had to come from some sort of privelage, or be at least semi good looking, but it was painted up like this terrible group of people wasting their lives, presumably to bait the rebels
There's always an ancestor just Evolution after Evolution music style scene and death then rebirth into an adaptation into the times they were trying to survive in
To put this in a bit of perspective, this was 1964. It was the tail end of the beatnick era. It had become a fad by then, lots of kids just showing up and doing it because it was the in thing to do. It as almost twenty years after the time when "On The Road" was set. The original beats were serious writors, mostly. Highly eccentric people, yes, but seriouse readers and writers. Also, some of these people were actors. Anyway, waht is so bad about young people asking some questions and having a little fun.
Do you really want to know what is wrong with a degenerate culture of haters of conformity, straightness and who they tried to sneer at all and every day? IE Those they called 'Squares' (Non Freaks). What do you mean also 'waht (What) is so bad about young people asking some questions'. The year was 1964 so those young adults were not really Beatniks but those led on by the dissident attitudes of those trying to claim they are/were the leaders of the Beats. So they are a by-product of the earlier down trodden garbage that ate out of dumpsters, husseled/begged or stole to try to earn enough for their fix or alcohol fueled binge. But isn't it ironic or hypocritical to spend so much of their time trying to get the money when the very essence of their anti-materialistic revolt was against that so called machinery of corruption? Those supposed Poets were not as such asking question as part of their revolt. They were sniping or sneering. Having a poke. Their published books are not question asking, but statements. Here is a question! Is the attempted steering of a teenage generation in to Bohemian decadency, illegal drug abuse, sodomy, revolt, hate, subversion, drunken non caring underworld contempt of society really as you say 'having a little fun'?
I laughed too as I started watching this because the title of the recording was misleading, but he did write in the description that they are actors. I did not read it until too late. Anyway, these scripted scenes look like something that could have been in "On the Road" or "The Dharma Bums."
Woodie Gutherie was an okie that influenced the scene in the viallage. He was there in the 40’s, but his impact was felt well into the 60’s and beyond.
@@zadiefluxx7140 my brother took part in the 68 summer of love in golden gate park. my mother and i had to go pick his sorry ass up at the police station. he was living in the park and he looked homeless. we picked him up in the haight. We got lost because we didn't know sf and the street sign on the corner of haight/ashbury was covered with a bra draped over it. I swear it was a freak show, better than television, whenever we went into the city with my dad. That was the start of the downward spiral of sf. I wish i was older to have experienced sf during the beatnick generation
The Beatniks were a "pure" movement compared to the Hippies. They were more arty types who lived in certain areas. I would consider them a more "pure: movement outside of commercialism and faddism. For the most part, the Hippies I ran across were a bunch of immature druggy punk kids.
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Bohemians have been around forever. The worst thing that can happen to a counterculture is to become accepted by mainstream youth. It then becomes commercialized and silly.
Wow David, your work is extremely impressive! I've accidentally stumbled onto a few of your videos now. It's so raw, but comprehensive and immersive. Thank you for sharing all of this.
...asking questions, thinking, drinking wine smoking cigarettes having early rap sessions with spoken word poetry looks idealistic to me I could certainly adapt to such a culture.
Sukintree replied to this but I can't find it here. I wasn't saying that women didn't contribute to the poetry of this period but that the way this was staged showed the men taking the limelight
The beat generation NEVER called themselves beatniks that came from mainstream media. They called themselves beat. I was there and am a beat poet even now.
I feel like there's a solid documentary here on what the Beats were and why and how it lead into the hippies because honestly none of it makes any sense to me now. I wonder if that's what people will think of the hipsters 60 years from now.
It doesn't make sense (maybe) because what you were told was happening was not what happened. The Beats were not the farthers of the Hippies. There are many over-lapping simmilarities and a lot does just merge in to one. Because that was what the media sold them as. Sold as the post war generation degenerating youthwho they (The media) called beatniks. There were Beats before there were supposed Beatniks (Beatnik label began at Sputnik time and was coined by a San F'sco) media distributor. Beats likwise was a label for a paticular type of identifiable types with in society. But those types predat the Nineteen-Forties war and go back evey decade even in to the Nineteenth century (Hoods, hoodlums, gangsters, brothel keepers, pimps, card sharks, hustlers, vagabonds and opium dealers to mention some). So there was nothing new about a subclass. So did it lead in to the Hippies. No. The Hippies were fundementally different as their father (Not the fathers such as Ginsberg, or keroac et all) was the Vietnam war and the growing peace movement. So here you have some of the over laps where both invole protest, some revolt, anti govermental dissatisfation and more. Both werein part magnets to many of the societal drifters, forlorn, hopeless, runaways and needy and when both groups were in the same location it would not be easy to tell them apart. Both groups with drifters, hobos, runaways, vagrants, disaffected youth could have their share of drifters from the other group and there would in affect be no difference there. So there was some inter-changebleness with in the two groups. But that did not make the two groups the same. There were clear differences with some over laps. But clearly something did happen and some how there has become the media idea of one being the father of the other and a small group of supposed originators being the principle idealists. The main guys. But that is media. Even some of those supposed originators objected to themselves being identified as beatniks and the original fathers. Whilst some gave that media sterotypisation their blessing and tried to fullfill the roles as bogus as it may have been. So what we have then is a 'High jacking' by both media as well as certain individules who sought to merge the two and make out the Hippies were the children of the Beatniks. Even when the Hippy child was not the son or daughter of an actual beat. So with the high-jacking, attempted steering, and moneterisational media frenzy wie reach a situation of the 'dish running away with the spoon'. Rather than the Hippies being the actual children of the beatnik fathers. They are different and have different ideological fathers rather than the media legend claiming supposed fathers. Fathers who would be more foster fathers rather than real fathers if they were accepted as the fathers. Yes. Some (Or most if not all) Hippies could be said to be Beatniks themselves. As they are 'Beats'. But for the purposes of goverment studies, sociological stereotyping & media those Hippies who are clearly Beats are not referred to as beats as they are a later clearly identifiable sub group with a clearly different idological outlook even though many characteristics are similar or identical. So Hippies who are Beats are not referred to as Beats but as Hippies. Then throw in to all that a load of mind bending mentally debilitating drugs which were common to both Beats & Hippies and you have the confusion and dopey brianed stereotypical characteristics of millions of others being confused to what was or who really is who or what. But does it really matter if they do not really know who themselves are or were or if they are confused? Of course some would say yes it matters. But when you come to trying to straighten the bent out. You may find there the impossible dream. A society with an adversion to being straight. So they are just left with their confusional nacotic states as parts of the underworld underclass. Why would it make sense to you? If you tried to make sense of those who tried to make non-sense out of most things which made sense. Then at the end you are surly left with the end result of it not making sense. Another famouse poet or lyricst once wrote 'Stop trying to make sense'. This is a case where that can be applied and that's why so much does not make sense to those trying to make sense of it. There is sometimes about as much sense in a Beat's or Hippies head as you can find in a surrealists artwork. So if you want to make sense of the two diffent cultures you would need to go or read the works of those who make sense of such. Such as sociologists. But don't try to make any sense from the Beats or Hippies them selves as they are in the business of not making sense and rejecting conventionalism and what is perfectly straight in a straightforward world. A world where the Beats & Hippies do not really reside.
I recognize the actor with the microphone in the last segment; James Frawley he was on many 60s TV shows and directed many Monkee’s episodes. So yes this had to be clips from a movie (s) of the time.
no privacy No it shows the Beats as they were. I think that’s a good thing. I’m glad you posted it. Thank you. It’s really hard to do valuable things in this world. It takes courage, humility, love, discipline and dedication. It took me a long time and a lot of mistakes to learn that. The Beats and Hippies were a wrecking ball. Destruction is easy. Any fool can destroy but it takes real courage to heal.
Actually, those are ACTORS pretending to be beatniks to probably please the Christian Church, and to make Beatniks look very stupid, when they were actually communicating that Materialism is stupid. And they were right.
I remember the Beat Generation of the 1950’s and the beatniks who read Kerouac and listened to the cool jazz of Chet Baker. I was just a little kid in the 1950’s but I learned to stay away from teenage beatniks. Beatniks were mean sadistic violent teenagers who liked to hide and beat me up and knock me and other little kids down on the sidewalk. They were a bunch of cowards when 5 teenage beatniks had to beat up a little 8 year old boy to get their kicks. And these beatniks all worshipped Kerouac books so whenever I saw one of his books in a library or bookstore I tore out the pages and defaced his books as much as I could when no one was looking. It made me feel good to do this to the books of the beatniks god, Kerouac. The beatniks also liked the cool jazz of Chet Baker snd whenever I saw one of his records in a record store I would slash the record with a knife when no one was watching. The beatniks hated me and made fun of me because I liked early jazz as a kid and bought 78’s by Louis Armstrong and Bix Beiderbecke in a Salvation Army store. The teenage beatniks would wait for me walking home with my jazz 78’s and grab them from me and break them on the sidewalk then beat me up. I have hated Jack Kerouac and his mean sadistic violent followers my whole life.
Kerouac was actually fiercely against all the "beatniks" and later on the hippies who worshipped his work. He thought they were nothing but a bunch of hoodlums and thugs who diluted his message of love and tolerance, and enjoying life. Watch his interview on William Buckley's Firing Line to see how much he loathed these types
@@strawberrymilkman412 so he rejected these beatniks who worshipped his work. Nice to know that. Some of these beatniks were mean violent thugs who hit and kicked little kids like me. They hated me because they were part of those old jazz wars between the traditionalists and the moderns. They knew I liked Louis Armstrong and Bix and early jazz. They liked Chet Baker and Dave Brubeck who played the cool jazz of the 1950’s and they would attack anyone who liked early jazz. II would ask them why are you hitting me and knocking me on the ground and hurting me. They said because YOU are the enemy. I should have said, “Fine if I am the enemy then you are my enemy and you want a war I will give you one.” Next time they went after me to hurt me I should have had a .38 in my little red wagon and as they approached me I should have said, “ You aren’t going to hurt me ever again. This is WAR and I should have blasted all of them. Then laughed at them when THEY were on the sidewalk bleeding as before they had knocked me to the sidewalk and laughed at me. I was just a little kid then but looking back I should have asked my father to buy a gun for me. I reported them to the police and the police said get away and don’t bother me kid. Ok, cop you won’t do anything then I am going to blast these bastards next time they try to hurt me.
What a joke. I knew a real beatnik. He taught college and had a wife and three daughters. It had nothing to do with hanging out in a cafe; it was a state of mind. Cafes of the 50s and 60s were great. We were there; we lived that life. Some of the poetry was terrible, as was the artless art on the walls. Beatniks? None of them in this video were real beatniks.
My father lived in the California Venice Canals late 1950’s when it was a flea infested slum painting his abstract expressionist oil paintings Walter Hopps even came by to view my dad’s work n even interested asked about the pink paint I painted on to the back door I was 3 years old then
No! Unless you were of that metally retarded sub normal underworld set who didn't object to going to prison or being incarcerated of fellonious drug charges. If you study the beat generation supposed fathers you will find most of them all had admissions in to what were called Pyschiatic Hospitals. So even had eletrroshock treatment or labotomy old style. So if you thought getting out of your head in the 1950s was with out pyschological risks then you have been either mislead or are greatly delusional. Labotomy old style was how they used to drill a hole in to the brain or remove certain parts before the advent of tranquillisers.
unintentionally funny, the melodrama those kids putting down people who produce oughta be happy someone produced the clothes they wear and car they ride in
Brunno. Apparently your view is that a stereotype is a deception. It confuses me. My opinion is that stereotypes have some elements of truth. David Hoffman filmmaker
Thank God Manson was just a few years away from showing this pretentious bunch of half wits the error of their ways lol only joking. Love and peace to all.
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I never knew goths and hippies shared a common ancestor.
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The free thinkers, freaks, weirdos, what have you. You could fit emos in there too. The portion of society who's more perceptive of the world around them than self-aware. Highlighting their existence makes me think they wanted this sector of people because they buy expensive niche items that are otherwise hard to sell. In order to even be a beatnik you had to come from some sort of privelage, or be at least semi good looking, but it was painted up like this terrible group of people wasting their lives, presumably to bait the rebels
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But before Beatniks there was Dada.
There's always an ancestor just Evolution after Evolution music style scene and death then rebirth into an adaptation into the times they were trying to survive in
To put this in a bit of perspective, this was 1964. It was the tail end of the beatnick era. It had become a fad by then, lots of kids just showing up and doing it because it was the in thing to do. It as almost twenty years after the time when "On The Road" was set. The original beats were serious writors, mostly. Highly eccentric people, yes, but seriouse readers and writers.
Also, some of these people were actors.
Anyway, waht is so bad about young people asking some questions and having a little fun.
I agree with your comments.
Do you really want to know what is wrong with a degenerate culture of haters of conformity, straightness and who they tried to sneer at all and every day? IE Those they called 'Squares' (Non Freaks). What do you mean also 'waht (What) is so bad about young people asking some questions'. The year was 1964 so those young adults were not really Beatniks but those led on by the dissident attitudes of those trying to claim they are/were the leaders of the Beats. So they are a by-product of the earlier down trodden garbage that ate out of dumpsters, husseled/begged or stole to try to earn enough for their fix or alcohol fueled binge. But isn't it ironic or hypocritical to spend so much of their time trying to get the money when the very essence of their anti-materialistic revolt was against that so called machinery of corruption? Those supposed Poets were not as such asking question as part of their revolt. They were sniping or sneering. Having a poke. Their published books are not question asking, but statements. Here is a question! Is the attempted steering of a teenage generation in to Bohemian decadency, illegal drug abuse, sodomy, revolt, hate, subversion, drunken non caring underworld contempt of society really as you say 'having a little fun'?
I laughed too as I started watching this because the title of the recording was misleading, but he did write in the description that they are actors. I did not read it until too late. Anyway, these scripted scenes look like something that could have been in "On the Road" or "The Dharma Bums."
I might take you a little more seriously if you could actually spell "beatnik" correctly.
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I so wanted to be a beatnik but you know, living in small-town western Oklahoma, it was hard. 😢
Pls tell me you dress up nowadays ❤️🔥🌹
Come to Gypsy Coffee House in Tulsa, write some poetry and read it there.
Chet Baker was also from a small town in Oklahoma.
Woodie Gutherie was an okie that influenced the scene in the viallage. He was there in the 40’s, but his impact was felt well into the 60’s and beyond.
@@doydivision3984 ...and he left.
1964 The Hippies were just aroung the corner. The Beats were fading.
i'de prefer the beats, at least they took baths
Once Bob Dylan plugged in at Monterey Pop, it was all over. Still, it’s fun to think of how it might’ve been...
@@gregh7457 the dirty hippie stereotype didn't come until Woodstock most of the people at summer of love wore silks and pretty clothes
@@zadiefluxx7140 my brother took part in the 68 summer of love in golden gate park. my mother and i had to go pick his sorry ass up at the police station. he was living in the park and he looked homeless. we picked him up in the haight. We got lost because we didn't know sf and the street sign on the corner of haight/ashbury was covered with a bra draped over it. I swear it was a freak show, better than television, whenever we went into the city with my dad. That was the start of the downward spiral of sf. I wish i was older to have experienced sf during the beatnick generation
The Beatniks were a "pure" movement compared to the Hippies. They were more arty types who lived in certain areas. I would consider them a more "pure: movement outside of commercialism and faddism. For the most part, the Hippies I ran across were a bunch of immature druggy punk kids.
I've always liked the laid back "bongo" of the beatnik scene 😎😎😎😎
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That looks more like "reefer madness" propaganda than raw footage.
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Bohemians have been around forever. The worst thing that can happen to a counterculture is to become accepted by mainstream youth. It then becomes commercialized and silly.
Wow David, your work is extremely impressive! I've accidentally stumbled onto a few of your videos now. It's so raw, but comprehensive and immersive. Thank you for sharing all of this.
🥃👴🏻 AWW SHUT UP
How goofy. This people are just theater kids.
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1964? Someone co-opted the scene several years after the fact. Weirdsville for sure. Herman Munster was a hipper beatnik than these kids. :)
Let's see man.... hmmmm there once was a Man from Nantucket...
...asking questions, thinking, drinking wine smoking cigarettes having early rap sessions with spoken word poetry looks idealistic to me I could certainly adapt to such a culture.
except none of the women got to contribute, even when the poem went round
Sukintree replied to this but I can't find it here. I wasn't saying that women didn't contribute to the poetry of this period but that the way this was staged showed the men taking the limelight
That and the counterculture fashion were always appealing to me. Love my beret and turtleneck
This film is Greenwich Village Story by Jack O'Connell from1963
1:40 say the first thing that comes to mind .. "I want some pringles..man! I WANT PRINGLES NOW!"
The beat generation NEVER called themselves beatniks that came from mainstream media.
They called themselves beat. I was there and am a beat poet even now.
I do not believe that you were there. Checking you out from what I can see, you are younger.
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@@DavidHoffmanFilmmaker I frequently change my ID in social media
Get my book of poems - Garden of Words. First name Ivy.
Sputnik, Beatnik, making propaganda stick.
They were pretty chill
This channel is such a treasure trove I swear
Gosh I'm fucking beatnik 😮
but without poetry.
Dig 😎
how did they get their hands on such a cool old benz
They stole it.
They're ex-Nazis in hiding. Clever disguise.
@@tonydanis1480 Never nazis some were veterans of WW2.
@@yourmother2739 Whoosh!
I feel like there's a solid documentary here on what the Beats were and why and how it lead into the hippies because honestly none of it makes any sense to me now. I wonder if that's what people will think of the hipsters 60 years from now.
hipsters dont do crap besides were beanies in the middle of summer and whine about trump.
It doesn't make sense (maybe) because what you were told was happening was not what happened. The Beats were not the farthers of the Hippies. There are many over-lapping simmilarities and a lot does just merge in to one. Because that was what the media sold them as. Sold as the post war generation degenerating youthwho they (The media) called beatniks. There were Beats before there were supposed Beatniks (Beatnik label began at Sputnik time and was coined by a San F'sco) media distributor. Beats likwise was a label for a paticular type of identifiable types with in society. But those types predat the Nineteen-Forties war and go back evey decade even in to the Nineteenth century (Hoods, hoodlums, gangsters, brothel keepers, pimps, card sharks, hustlers, vagabonds and opium dealers to mention some). So there was nothing new about a subclass. So did it lead in to the Hippies. No. The Hippies were fundementally different as their father (Not the fathers such as Ginsberg, or keroac et all) was the Vietnam war and the growing peace movement. So here you have some of the over laps where both invole protest, some revolt, anti govermental dissatisfation and more. Both werein part magnets to many of the societal drifters, forlorn, hopeless, runaways and needy and when both groups were in the same location it would not be easy to tell them apart. Both groups with drifters, hobos, runaways, vagrants, disaffected youth could have their share of drifters from the other group and there would in affect be no difference there. So there was some inter-changebleness with in the two groups. But that did not make the two groups the same. There were clear differences with some over laps.
But clearly something did happen and some how there has become the media idea of one being the father of the other and a small group of supposed originators being the principle idealists. The main guys. But that is media. Even some of those supposed originators objected to themselves being identified as beatniks and the original fathers. Whilst some gave that media sterotypisation their blessing and tried to fullfill the roles as bogus as it may have been. So what we have then is a 'High jacking' by both media as well as certain individules who sought to merge the two and make out the Hippies were the children of the Beatniks. Even when the Hippy child was not the son or daughter of an actual beat. So with the high-jacking, attempted steering, and moneterisational media frenzy wie reach a situation of the 'dish running away with the spoon'.
Rather than the Hippies being the actual children of the beatnik fathers. They are different and have different ideological fathers rather than the media legend claiming supposed fathers. Fathers who would be more foster fathers rather than real fathers if they were accepted as the fathers. Yes. Some (Or most if not all) Hippies could be said to be Beatniks themselves. As they are 'Beats'. But for the purposes of goverment studies, sociological stereotyping & media those Hippies who are clearly Beats are not referred to as beats as they are a later clearly identifiable sub group with a clearly different idological outlook even though many characteristics are similar or identical. So Hippies who are Beats are not referred to as Beats but as Hippies. Then throw in to all that a load of mind bending mentally debilitating drugs which were common to both Beats & Hippies and you have the confusion and dopey brianed stereotypical characteristics of millions of others being confused to what was or who really is who or what.
But does it really matter if they do not really know who themselves are or were or if they are confused? Of course some would say yes it matters. But when you come to trying to straighten the bent out. You may find there the impossible dream. A society with an adversion to being straight. So they are just left with their confusional nacotic states as parts of the underworld underclass.
Why would it make sense to you? If you tried to make sense of those who tried to make non-sense out of most things which made sense. Then at the end you are surly left with the end result of it not making sense. Another famouse poet or lyricst once wrote 'Stop trying to make sense'. This is a case where that can be applied and that's why so much does not make sense to those trying to make sense of it. There is sometimes about as much sense in a Beat's or Hippies head as you can find in a surrealists artwork.
So if you want to make sense of the two diffent cultures you would need to go or read the works of those who make sense of such. Such as sociologists. But don't try to make any sense from the Beats or Hippies them selves as they are in the business of not making sense and rejecting conventionalism and what is perfectly straight in a straightforward world. A world where the Beats & Hippies do not really reside.
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Wasn't expecting to see James Frawley at the end.
What movie was this clip from? I'd love to see it.
The guy with the sunglasses became a martial arts promoter in nyc during the 60s,70s,80s .. Aarron Banks..
2:01 David Blaine didn't feel that one
I recognize the actor with the microphone in the last segment; James Frawley he was on many 60s TV shows and directed many Monkee’s episodes. So yes this had to be clips from a movie (s) of the time.
This reminds me of Maynard G Krebs on the TV show Doe B Gillis
Nice. The Emperor was naked. What seemed profound to me and so many others was clatter.
I was born in 1950. I was a hippie. I admired the Beats and thought they were wise and wonderful. I changed my mind.
no privacy No it shows the Beats as they were. I think that’s a good thing.
I’m glad you posted it. Thank you.
It’s really hard to do valuable things in this world. It takes courage, humility, love, discipline and dedication. It took me a long time and a lot of mistakes to learn that.
The Beats and Hippies were a wrecking ball. Destruction is easy. Any fool can destroy but it takes real courage to heal.
That snapping fingers🤣
Underreated subculture
this looks like an episode of dobie gillis
Get that man some anti-perspirant.
so hipsters.....
Exactly.
I would've laughed if they got smacked in the mouth.
The originals
Patient zero.
I think the 90s swing revival is what connects those hipsters to today's hipsters.
@@Dayglodaydreams That swing revival was so weird to me. Unexpected.
Jesus Christ, the pretentiousness..
“My soul squeezed in the hydraulic press of eternal drip drip drip” 😂
That's what I thought, just a group of middle-class university students smoking weed and spouting pretentious woffel😎
Cool Daddio, like way out.
Actually, those are ACTORS pretending to be beatniks to probably please the Christian Church, and to make Beatniks look very stupid, when they were actually communicating that Materialism is stupid. And they were right.
We toked, and smoked, some wicked weed, this cool daddy's steed choked, then no more need.
At 2.03 is that Actor James Frawley from the Outer Limits episode The Inheritors? Or the the 1963 film Lady Bird Lady Bird?
By 1966 the "beatnik" was giving way to the "hippie" And by 1967 the "Beatnik" was no more.
Lol the poetry segment looked like it could be a modern day meme.
I remember the Beat Generation of the 1950’s and the beatniks who read Kerouac and listened to the cool jazz of Chet Baker. I was just a little kid in the 1950’s but I learned to stay away from teenage beatniks. Beatniks were mean sadistic violent teenagers who liked to hide and beat me up and knock me and other little kids down on the sidewalk. They were a bunch of cowards when 5 teenage beatniks had to beat up a little 8 year old boy to get their kicks. And these beatniks all worshipped Kerouac books so whenever I saw one of his books in a library or bookstore I tore out the pages and defaced his books as much as I could when no one was looking. It made me feel good to do this to the books of the beatniks god, Kerouac. The beatniks also liked the cool jazz of Chet Baker snd whenever I saw one of his records in a record store I would slash the record with a knife when no one was watching. The beatniks hated me and made fun of me because I liked early jazz as a kid and bought 78’s by Louis Armstrong and Bix Beiderbecke in a Salvation Army store. The teenage beatniks would wait for me walking home with my jazz 78’s and grab them from me and break them on the sidewalk then beat me up. I have hated Jack Kerouac and his mean sadistic violent followers my whole life.
Kerouac was actually fiercely against all the "beatniks" and later on the hippies who worshipped his work. He thought they were nothing but a bunch of hoodlums and thugs who diluted his message of love and tolerance, and enjoying life. Watch his interview on William Buckley's Firing Line to see how much he loathed these types
@@strawberrymilkman412 so he rejected these beatniks who worshipped his work. Nice to know that. Some of these beatniks were mean violent thugs who hit and kicked little kids like me. They hated me because they were part of those old jazz wars between the traditionalists and the moderns. They knew I liked Louis Armstrong and Bix and early jazz. They liked Chet Baker and Dave Brubeck who played the cool jazz of the 1950’s and they would attack anyone who liked early jazz. II would ask them why are you hitting me and knocking me on the ground and hurting me. They said because YOU are the enemy. I should have said, “Fine if I am the enemy then you are my enemy and you want a war I will give you one.” Next time they went after me to hurt me I should have had a .38 in my little red wagon and as they approached me I should have said, “ You aren’t going to hurt me ever again. This is WAR and I should have blasted all of them. Then laughed at them when THEY were on the sidewalk bleeding as before they had knocked me to the sidewalk and laughed at me. I was just a little kid then but looking back I should have asked my father to buy a gun for me. I reported them to the police and the police said get away and don’t bother me kid. Ok, cop you won’t do anything then I am going to blast these bastards next time they try to hurt me.
Damn
You made that up honey.
@@yourmother2739 No I didn’t. You just don’t want to hear the truth.
Jack Kerouac’s insufferable friends.
What a joke. I knew a real beatnik. He taught college and had a wife and three daughters. It had nothing to do with hanging out in a cafe; it was a state of mind. Cafes of the 50s and 60s were great. We were there; we lived that life. Some of the poetry was terrible, as was the artless art on the walls. Beatniks? None of them in this video were real beatniks.
They sound like hipsters
“I’ve been swallowed by the ring-a-ding doom of shattered civilizations.”
Thank you.
Our cities looked like they were in good shape back then. Unlike now.
My father lived in the California Venice Canals late 1950’s when it was a flea infested slum painting his abstract expressionist oil paintings
Walter Hopps even came by to view my dad’s work n even interested asked about the pink paint I painted on to the back door
I was 3 years old then
It would have been fun to get high in the 1950s.
No! Unless you were of that metally retarded sub normal underworld set who didn't object to going to prison or being incarcerated of fellonious drug charges. If you study the beat generation supposed fathers you will find most of them all had admissions in to what were called Pyschiatic Hospitals. So even had eletrroshock treatment or labotomy old style. So if you thought getting out of your head in the 1950s was with out pyschological risks then you have been either mislead or are greatly delusional. Labotomy old style was how they used to drill a hole in to the brain or remove certain parts before the advent of tranquillisers.
Nah. Unless your just another junky.
@@pepsi_man4962 your what?
@@alexjames1397 not a junky
I was born in the wrong era
So much affectation. It kind of was a dress rehearsal for today.
Beat is to beatnik as hip is to hippie.
This should be re-titled: “How Hollywood saw beatniks”.
Hollywood was not involved in any way in my documentary or in the old films are used to create this show.
David Hoffman filmmaker
Thank you
cool man.
Adoreable ❤️
😎😎
So these were the hippies before hippies.
The beatniks and the hippies have similarities but Did not practice the same values.
David Hoffman filmmaker
Man drugs were something else back then huh
unintentionally funny, the melodrama
those kids putting down people who produce oughta be happy someone produced the clothes they wear and car they ride in
Like yea David dig that lifestyle
Beatniks > Hippies
This is what the Wonder Years was to that era
and the weed wasn't even that strong then. these people would have been spouting some real unintelligible jibberish with todays bud.
What is/was a Beatnik?
Hahahah this is like Gen Z and millennials speaking drivel on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook. Narcissism in every generation.
Clips from the TV show, Charlie's Paradise, I'll bet.
The fifties are why the Beat Generation rebelled from its stagnation for example.
Cool
They came from new York 😮
Pretentious incorporated.
radiant cool crazy nightmare zen new jersey nowhere
Zen Leaf in NJ?
that sucked....lets start over 2:00
Mannered G. Crabes please come home.
"lost keys blame hofmann"
Did beatniks put out?
Their version of hipsters
No different then punk going suburban in 1980
Same difference.
not much of a short...
I am confused. It is not a short.
David Hoffman filmmaker
I bet female beatniks had that good good but it prolly skanked tho cause eeer one was beating it
These were the hipsters of back then lol
I see the similarities. The coffee culture has comeback strong although in more of a corporate way.
That's pure stereotype... What a deception
Brunno. Apparently your view is that a stereotype is a deception. It confuses me. My opinion is that stereotypes have some elements of truth.
David Hoffman filmmaker
Hippys copied beatniks 😢
Thank God Manson was just a few years away from showing this pretentious bunch of half wits the error of their ways lol only joking. Love and peace to all.
Bad acting LOL
It was brown
watch the roger corman film a bucket of blood thats better
this is jive...real beats never acted it..they lived it
Ummm, no thanks.
A bunch of muggle heads
Small correction to he description: *nearly all the poetry was awful 😊
Can you be a black beatnik lol
Yes ofc
Dobie gillis was a beatnik
How brave 🏳️🌈✊🏿