@@BLACKVAULTMARKEThope it never happens to you again or anyone for that matter. That's a really bad experience I'm sure, but at least you know now to take a different step/approach to make sure you get paid first or get the item back first before a full return.
All eBay cares about is separating you from your money. They have no customer service because they don’t give a shit. No business anywhere gives a shit anymore. It’s just how can I get the most money out of this person’s pocket and do the least. I’m still shocked they kicked PWCC off.
I think they only kicked pwcc to do their ebay vault and the psa vault programs. Big contract with psa before fanatics bought out pwcc. Kicked them out to take their biasness on the site.
They blatantly ignore these types of claims, there’s no such thing as seller protection, I’ve never seen such thing happen! But I’ve seen countless buyer protection, or shall I say scammer protection ✅
@@doyouevendab77 because it was fraud, the only reason he is returning the cards is cause of the people pressuring him maybe here and instagram and his account on ebay should be suspended, since ebay dropped the ball
I’m so happy to see this update! I was very bothered and upset for you after seeing your original video. I’m a seller of collector cards on eBay myself. I’ve never had something this egregious happen but did have a person try and say I sent an open item that was listed as new and sealed which it was. He had opened it and stole a card out of it and then requested a return. I remember how awful that felt and could only imagine the stress this imposed on you. Watching this video and hearing you reflect on how you acquired and submitted some of these cards was a great feeling! So happy it worked out for you!!!
@doyouevendab77 definitely not! Lying and making false claims and prepared to fraudulently scam someone out of nearly 8k is not acceptable. He has only given them back because he was named and shamed publicly by the seller! The aggravation and stress alone would be terrible. You'd you be ok with it if someone scammed you out of 8k?
Glad it worked out , I stopped selling anything over 100 dollars on eBay , because their money back guarantee item not as described give's scammers a license to steal without consequence .
Glad it worked out for you. eBay still needs to own up on not backing you up with all your proof and evidence you submitted to them. They can not be trusted when they can’t do their job and still wouldn’t.
Guy is still scum and it took all that for him to do the right thing . After all that time, he couldn't even cover shipping when his card company refunded him the purchase amount. I wish he could still get further consequences for this
@@doyouevendab77the commenter who is stating the guy is awful because he wouldn’t cover shipping after attempting to scam him for thousands, is worse than the guy in the video ? What planet are you on?
Excellent good to hear it worked out all ok for you in the end. Maybe split them up and do some lower value sales from now on, that way will not be to much out of pocket if goes tits up.
So glad you got satisfaction. Never count on eBay to stand up for you as a seller. Eventually, they will lose enough sellers, and come to the realization that their lack of protection for sellers SUCKS.
I had someone try that with me, got ebay involved, conference call to buyer. Listened to his BS, and then I said to ebay, where do I send the video of the packaging of the order, sealing of the package and hand off to the clerk at the PO. I an used to doing things like this used to send classified mail to the government twice a week. The switched item magically was the right one
Glad it worked out for you. Lots of scammers on eBay both buyers and sellers. Not only in the card community but in the coin collecting community as well. I watched your last video and couldn’t believe that eBay was doing nothing for you. But glad you finally got it back in your possession.
I'm glad you got your stuff back 👌 And it's a wake-up call for all of us not trust much eBay or any other selling platform. Find a private buyer remains the best way to complete a transaction 💪
You can definitely sue a company for doing illegal things, even if their policy says you can't. The illegal activity on eBay behalf here would be violating their own terms of service in order to aid felonious financial transactions on their platform
Very good glad you got them back, that is shameful integrity on eBay’s part, that other person should be banned from their completely and be charged with a felony!
Glad you got stuff back... any advice about how not to have this happen again. I'm confused as to how this guy paid regarding his bank refunded the money or was this a credit card?
more like he was shitting himself waiting for someone to rock up and throw him a beating or maybe someone did do that we dont know he didnt say and i wouldnt say even if i did
So glad for you! Are you going to continue to sell cards on ebay? If so, what is the most expensive card/set you're willing to list, after this experience? As a seller, I'm genuinely curious...
So happy for you, man. And good for the "buyer" for doing the right thing in the end, regardless his motivations. What matters is that you're not out $7700, because that's a life-changing amount of money to many people. And F**K eBay!
So happy you received that precious lot back. We feel your joy. Still think you should report him to the places we suggested with your first video. Shame on Ebay for not assisting you with this confirmed scammer. He even had the audacity to ask you to pay for return shipping of the cards he stole from you! We spread his name to all our selling community. Did he change his name again at 0:17 ? We will block that also.
You know if there wasn't the pressure from "overcorrecting" he'd have never sent those to you. He's a bad enough person he'll do it again and again and again. Unfortunately people have short memories and someone else will be ripped off by that scammer who won't have the platform to bring pressure.
it will only have “all worked out” once this buyer is charged criminally. if what you say is true, a price must be paid by him for attempted felony fraud. he cannot try to commit the theft, apologize, and make all good. we are not in kindergarten, this is many thousands of dollars. prosecute.
So glad you got your cards back I been posting about your stolen cards. I could only imagine the backlash the guy got that's why our community has to stick together so when these things happen we can all get out cards back
His message to you is ridiculous too. He’s worried about $292 for shipping so he thinks it’s fair to split it with you, even though he basically stole $7700 worth of cards from you. Where is the Jordan with the OC that he claimed he received? Why’s he putting “without” in quotation marks? Also, I’m glad your original video went viral and that he felt enough pressure to send everything back. It was already a red flag from the beginning when he started messaging about a return. I agree that he probably had buyer’s remorse. And I’m guessing it was related to the cost (because he said something about working double shifts and then asks to split shipping with you). It’s just another example of how “no returns accepted” doesn’t mean anything on eBay. An immoral buyer will definitely lie and even commit fraud to get their money back, and in some cases (like this one), try to keep the item as well!
Yeah that's bs how Ebay treats sellers sometimes. Ive had some minor issues but nothing like what u experienced. Glad u got em back tho. Good luck in the future.
glad it all went well.. but he should not be allowed to buy on eBay again.. and shame on eBay for not doing their job and protecting long time eBay sellers..
I don't know what you been touching to think it will leave you skin, burn through the plastic sleeve, than the plastic case and finally damage the card. I bet you are an upright dude who is tons of fun to be around
This has nothing to do with eBay once they do a chargeback eBay has to play by the rules of the credit card. They will not reimburse in a case this large, no selling site will offer you seller protection for over $2500
So what finally made him change his mind? Were there multiple people putting pressure on him? I’m so happy someone finally had a good outcome from a situation like this.
eBay customer service-if you can even reach an actual person-is terrible. Just as likely to side with scammers as they are an honest buyer/seller. Whatever they can do to avoid getting their hands dirty.
Sellers have no power anymore on ebay. It's all up to the buyer to do the right thing. I'm an ebay seller, non sports cards. Very happy you got yr set back
Ebay is simply not in favor of the seller anymore they are with the buyer 100% of the time. With a buyer 100% money back guarantee for any reason. It's no wonder scammers are getting away with everything. You are lucky he did not just send back a couple bricks and then have proof the package came back to you. I guess the real question is are you going to relist the set back on Ebay? I mean on top of all of this you are also out the sellers fees that I assume was $200-$300 or did it ship it back through Ebay?
Moral of story and eBay if you watch this don't do high end card business on eBay until they fix the system. Use Goldin/other high end auction houses or go to shows. EBay doesn't protect sellers and most sellers have quit the site especially high end card selling boxes/packs/sets.
@metsrus Goldin has the cards in their possession when auctioned. If this happens it's between Goldin and them. Unlike eBay you send the card to them when it's not certified so eBay doesn't protect you. If they get the card that is certified eBay still protects you as the seller unless you committed fraud.
@metsrus Fraud charge back is different from eBay and Goldin. Goldin has the card in possession they protect you unlike eBay unless eBay certifies the card.
The guy asking for you to pay shipping is fucking wild. I would still post this guys name everywhere because these people will continue to do shit like this.
Shit man, just the fees they charged you in the earlier video is enough to avoid Ebay. They know they have #'s to sell pretty much anything anywhere and are now abusing the hell out of it.
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eBay should at least block his account. This is high enough for a felony.
They too busy blocking other citizens accounts based on race and religion....PROFILING & DISCRIMINATING.
Over 10x the felony minimum.
Millions of sellers use fake jerseys as real... u complain and they are still on ebay
there's no evidence that the buyer and seller weren't in on this together to try to scam eBay. Don't sell it online if you can't afford to lose it
@@bizman2488 Seriously! I notified eBay of a seller who made a blatant eBay violation. They're still selling and they have multiple accounts.
Glad you received them back. You are correct eBay should have stepped in and helped resolve it.
Ebay are useless. I have a case on hold with them since Dec 21st
Huge disappointment!
@@BLACKVAULTMARKEThope it never happens to you again or anyone for that matter. That's a really bad experience I'm sure, but at least you know now to take a different step/approach to make sure you get paid first or get the item back first before a full return.
All eBay cares about is separating you from your money. They have no customer service because they don’t give a shit. No business anywhere gives a shit anymore. It’s just how can I get the most money out of this person’s pocket and do the least. I’m still shocked they kicked PWCC off.
I think they only kicked pwcc to do their ebay vault and the psa vault programs. Big contract with psa before fanatics bought out pwcc. Kicked them out to take their biasness on the site.
No business anywhere gives a shit anymore. EXACTLY
They blatantly ignore these types of claims, there’s no such thing as seller protection, I’ve never seen such thing happen! But I’ve seen countless buyer protection, or shall I say scammer protection ✅
eBay did not help?!? what are all the selling fees for!!!
Their stockholders.
So someone can sip martinis on a beach.
I've been selling on ebay for 4 months now. Already been ripped off twice. Ebay is of no help to their sellers.
eBay rips you off with the 14% seller fee, and no customer service
Thank you for sharing and posting. So happy you got your cards back and very glad you got to expose this con man.
eBay should be ashamed
💯
I so wish you could get him in trouble with his credit card company for lying and committing fraud. So happy you got the cards back
Why do bro dirty like that?
@@doyouevendab77 because it was fraud, the only reason he is returning the cards is cause of the people pressuring him maybe here and instagram and his account on ebay should be suspended, since ebay dropped the ball
@@doyouevendab77You must be the scammer
@@doyouevendab77 He committed a crime
@@doyouevendab77He's dirty and must be punished. Get him on grand theft, mail fraud and wire fraud.
I’m so happy to see this update! I was very bothered and upset for you after seeing your original video. I’m a seller of collector cards on eBay myself. I’ve never had something this egregious happen but did have a person try and say I sent an open item that was listed as new and sealed which it was. He had opened it and stole a card out of it and then requested a return. I remember how awful that felt and could only imagine the stress this imposed on you. Watching this video and hearing you reflect on how you acquired and submitted some of these cards was a great feeling! So happy it worked out for you!!!
Guys committed fraud he should face charges!
Bro made an oversight, can we leave bro alone now please?
@@doyouevendab77😂
@doyouevendab77 definitely not! Lying and making false claims and prepared to fraudulently scam someone out of nearly 8k is not acceptable. He has only given them back because he was named and shamed publicly by the seller! The aggravation and stress alone would be terrible. You'd you be ok with it if someone scammed you out of 8k?
@@doyouevendab77dude didn't make an oversight. He committed fraud.
@@doyouevendab77you kidding right?
Glad you got your set back. Makes me think twice about ever selling a card(s) of significant value on eBay.
Glad you got this resolved. It shouldn't have been this much work for you. Especially with the insane amount of money involved.
I know man!
Glad you got your set back!!!!
I was actually going to reach out and inform you how to press criminal charges on the buyer!!!!!!!!!!
Shame on ebay they should of protected the seller from fruad
So glad this was finally resolved.
Thank you! Me too!
The guy seen the pressure and it hit him that you have his address 😂
Should have displayed his address on the video.
@@tashchris5502 a simple mistake. Everyone is happy now. Bro needs to be left alone.
Glad it worked out , I stopped selling anything over 100 dollars on eBay , because their money back guarantee item not as described give's scammers a license to steal without consequence .
The world is a little more just today.
Congrats on getting the set back. Thanks for sharing with us about the scammer.
Absolutely! We gotta put these fires out
Glad it worked out for you. eBay still needs to own up on not backing you up with all your proof and evidence you submitted to them. They can not be trusted when they can’t do their job and still wouldn’t.
It's insane to me. Especially after 16 years of history with them
Guy is still scum and it took all that for him to do the right thing . After all that time, he couldn't even cover shipping when his card company refunded him the purchase amount. I wish he could still get further consequences for this
Can we leave bro alone now please? You are worse than him.
@doyouevendab77 guy needs to donate some teeth for his actions
@@doyouevendab77the commenter who is stating the guy is awful because he wouldn’t cover shipping after attempting to scam him for thousands, is worse than the guy in the video ? What planet are you on?
@@doyouevendab77 I 100% disagree with your statement.
@@AWPYY he honestly felt the seller wasn't honest in his selling practices. Everybody is whole now. Nobody needs to threaten bro over cards.
00:44 hey thats my comment. Glad you got your stuff back man. Im sure the stress relief is huge
It was concerning how many sellers went through similar scenarios. It's a big problem
@@BLACKVAULTMARKET check none have been swapped out
Excellent good to hear it worked out all ok for you in the end. Maybe split them up and do some lower value sales from now on, that way will not be to much out of pocket if goes tits up.
Ebay is shady, they manipulate my feedback, block my auctions then say your sales are low!!! 😂😂😂😂 ...can't make this shit up smh
So glad you got satisfaction. Never count on eBay to stand up for you as a seller. Eventually, they will lose enough sellers, and come to the realization that their lack of protection for sellers SUCKS.
awesome dude! Super glad things got rectified. As a part-time ebay seller myself, your story was very disconcerting!
Absolutely!
Congrats on getting them back. I’ve been scammed twice in a similar way. I record video of me packaging almost every sale now.
you have to nowadays, in case shit hits the fan!
I had someone try that with me, got ebay involved, conference call to buyer. Listened to his BS, and then I said to ebay, where do I send the video of the packaging of the order, sealing of the package and hand off to the clerk at the PO. I an used to doing things like this used to send classified mail to the government twice a week. The switched item magically was the right one
Recording doesn’t do anything except waste your time
@@OldManAndTheTree wrong if done with witnesses works great in mail fraud cases.
@@OldManAndTheTreefalse, recording and the weight of the package is critical.
Glad it worked out for you. Lots of scammers on eBay both buyers and sellers. Not only in the card community but in the coin collecting community as well. I watched your last video and couldn’t believe that eBay was doing nothing for you. But glad you finally got it back in your possession.
social media pressure always work, when ebay and banks fail you.
100%. It's the world we live in now
I'm glad you got your stuff back 👌
And it's a wake-up call for all of us not trust much eBay or any other selling platform.
Find a private buyer remains the best way to complete a transaction 💪
Yeah definitely good to see that the pressure got to him.
Happy you got your set man.
I would find a buyer for that set and then use the money on a lawyer to sue eBay for 50k
eBay has a non arbitration clause you can't sue them
You can definitely sue a company for doing illegal things, even if their policy says you can't. The illegal activity on eBay behalf here would be violating their own terms of service in order to aid felonious financial transactions on their platform
Really happy for you. And the balls to ask you to pay for shipping to return the stuff he stole from you....unreal.
Very good glad you got them back, that is shameful integrity on eBay’s part, that other person should be banned from their completely and be charged with a felony!
This reminds me of that story on Better Call Saul where that guy was trying to get his cards back
Glad you got stuff back... any advice about how not to have this happen again. I'm confused as to how this guy paid regarding his bank refunded the money or was this a credit card?
Happy his conscience kicked in. Happy you got your cards back.
more like he was shitting himself waiting for someone to rock up and throw him a beating or maybe someone did do that we dont know he didnt say and i wouldnt say even if i did
My guess is he (and possibly others close to him) seen the other vide, and how many people knew what he done and sh!t himself like a newborn baby.
So glad you got the cards back, man.
me too man!
Happy for you! Absolutely insane eBay left you to do this on your own.
good that you got your collection back but the stress that you get to yourself is not paid back.
Did you see that there's newer PSA card bags out now without the PSA label on the bottom of them??
I haven't but I'll look them up!
Very good to hear that you received your cards back!!!
Thank you! Me too!
So glad for you! Are you going to continue to sell cards on ebay? If so, what is the most expensive card/set you're willing to list, after this experience? As a seller, I'm genuinely curious...
So happy for you, man. And good for the "buyer" for doing the right thing in the end, regardless his motivations. What matters is that you're not out $7700, because that's a life-changing amount of money to many people. And F**K eBay!
isnt there a safer place online to sell high value cards?
Wow. I'm surprised. But he somehow did the right thing.
Yar, was probably worried about ppl going round to his house and giving him a good hiding
Crazy times we live in
Imagine buying a full set and NOT knowing what was in it. I’m glad Payless Fred Durst sent the cards back
Dude was shady. No place in our society for that dude
So happy you received that precious lot back. We feel your joy. Still think you should report him to the places we suggested with your first video. Shame on Ebay for not assisting you with this confirmed scammer. He even had the audacity to ask you to pay for return shipping of the cards he stole from you! We spread his name to all our selling community. Did he change his name again at 0:17 ? We will block that also.
Thanks man! We did it together. He changed his name on eBay and IG
@@BLACKVAULTMARKET you should post up his new names
You know if there wasn't the pressure from "overcorrecting" he'd have never sent those to you. He's a bad enough person he'll do it again and again and again. Unfortunately people have short memories and someone else will be ripped off by that scammer who won't have the platform to bring pressure.
❤🙏 I am so happy for you! That is so much money and times are tough these days! Hope many more blessings come your way and you come up big!
it will only have “all worked out” once this buyer is charged criminally. if what you say is true, a price must be paid by him for attempted felony fraud. he cannot try to commit the theft, apologize, and make all good. we are not in kindergarten, this is many thousands of dollars. prosecute.
happy you got your stuff back.
So glad you got your cards back I been posting about your stolen cards. I could only imagine the backlash the guy got that's why our community has to stick together so when these things happen we can all get out cards back
Team effort! Thank you man!
His message to you is ridiculous too. He’s worried about $292 for shipping so he thinks it’s fair to split it with you, even though he basically stole $7700 worth of cards from you.
Where is the Jordan with the OC that he claimed he received? Why’s he putting “without” in quotation marks?
Also, I’m glad your original video went viral and that he felt enough pressure to send everything back. It was already a red flag from the beginning when he started messaging about a return. I agree that he probably had buyer’s remorse. And I’m guessing it was related to the cost (because he said something about working double shifts and then asks to split shipping with you).
It’s just another example of how “no returns accepted” doesn’t mean anything on eBay. An immoral buyer will definitely lie and even commit fraud to get their money back, and in some cases (like this one), try to keep the item as well!
Ebay should forfeit their sales fee when they mess up like this.
Very happy you got the set back!
Thanks!!
Why the gloves man? Psa slabs in sleeves..
🤣🤣
The criminal probably had hand herpes
@@DanielCordone9 lol
Yeah that's bs how Ebay treats sellers sometimes. Ive had some minor issues but nothing like what u experienced. Glad u got em back tho. Good luck in the future.
EBay need to do an internal investigation on this one, upgrade their protocols
the only thing they can legally do is fight the chargeback charges in court. the card company just took their money back without a fight.
so happy to hear you got the product back.
Thanks!!
Did you apply to ebay to get your fees back?
So the bank gave him his money & you gave him a refund to get the set back?
"This is a very fair deal..."
Signed,
Scammer
glad it all went well.. but he should not be allowed to buy on eBay again.. and shame on eBay for not doing their job and protecting long time eBay sellers..
That's awesome u got your whole setback that guy was very shady in the beginning but thank God everything worked out in your favor 👍
Glad it all worked out. And the buyer for returning cards.
I stopped selling on eBay years ago…total scam site
Glad you got them back but what’s with the gloves ? The cards are in plastic !
Glad you got them back. eBay is not the place to sell high value products and I hope you get even more money from a reputable auction house
I don't know what you been touching to think it will leave you skin, burn through the plastic sleeve, than the plastic case and finally damage the card. I bet you are an upright dude who is tons of fun to be around
Any collectible cards over 5k should be sent automatically to 3rd party for verification as eBay does for watches over 3-5k before end user receives
Where eBay failed at least the RUclips algorithm stood up for you.
The hobby community rallied. Very fortunate
This has nothing to do with eBay once they do a chargeback eBay has to play by the rules of the credit card. They will not reimburse in a case this large, no selling site will offer you seller protection for over $2500
Then why are they in business if they do not protect the seller....
@@tgkoski306 because the seller is a R because he didn't sell individual cards and didn't require a wire transfer which is not uncommon over $5000
because the seller is a big R because he didn't sell individual cards via authentication and didn't require a wire which is not uncommon over $5000
Big question do you delist and sell similar lol
I would stop selling on eBay if I were you. They absolutely DO NOT stand behind sellers.
Hey, beautiful set ! Why work so hard to put together and then sell ? Glad you got them back !
Wow. Guy is still a loser. At least he sent them back but come on. Stop lying and taking advantage of others
I would still report him to the police to create a record of this incident.
Glad you got them all back and everything turned out good. Well, as good as it could have gone.
Thanks man! Was quite a ride
So what finally made him change his mind? Were there multiple people putting pressure on him? I’m so happy someone finally had a good outcome from a situation like this.
Insane that it has to get to this
My OCD is so bad in my head I would think somehow he got in there and switched cards
eBay customer service-if you can even reach an actual person-is terrible. Just as likely to side with scammers as they are an honest buyer/seller. Whatever they can do to avoid getting their hands dirty.
Sellers have no power anymore on ebay. It's all up to the buyer to do the right thing.
I'm an ebay seller, non sports cards.
Very happy you got yr set back
Sellers are posting, selling, providing tracking and not shipping, fairly frequently now. The whole medium has issues
You also lost ebay fees and chargeback fees most likely. But a small loss is better than 7700$! Good job and I am sorry ebay did not solve this…
Great that you got back the set.
Yeaaaa we was on his ass! 😂 Glad you got your shit back. Keep “lot” from out of your listings from now on bro 🫡
Awesome, you got them back, but it sucks what you had to go through.
I can't stand thieves.....at least he did the RIGHT thing and returned it all back to you.
Sooo glad to see you get this set back.
Thanks man!!
Ebay is simply not in favor of the seller anymore they are with the buyer 100% of the time. With a buyer 100% money back guarantee for any reason. It's no wonder scammers are getting away with everything. You are lucky he did not just send back a couple bricks and then have proof the package came back to you. I guess the real question is are you going to relist the set back on Ebay? I mean on top of all of this you are also out the sellers fees that I assume was $200-$300 or did it ship it back through Ebay?
Glad you got them back, but please people stop using eBay. Don't sell or buy anything using their platform. There are plenty other places to go to.
ain't no where you can go that will expose you to more buyers and higher selling price
Congrats I am glad to hear that!!
Moral of story and eBay if you watch this don't do high end card business on eBay until they fix the system. Use Goldin/other high end auction houses or go to shows. EBay doesn't protect sellers and most sellers have quit the site especially high end card selling boxes/packs/sets.
don't matter what platform you use if buyers can do fraud chargeback on their credit cards.
@metsrus Goldin has the cards in their possession when auctioned. If this happens it's between Goldin and them. Unlike eBay you send the card to them when it's not certified so eBay doesn't protect you. If they get the card that is certified eBay still protects you as the seller unless you committed fraud.
That's what I'll be doing soon. I've been done out of $750
@metsrus Fraud charge back is different from eBay and Goldin. Goldin has the card in possession they protect you unlike eBay unless eBay certifies the card.
you're not wrong!
The guy asking for you to pay shipping is fucking wild. I would still post this guys name everywhere because these people will continue to do shit like this.
This guy will definitely be a repeat offender. You can see it in his beady little eyes
That’s why you should only sell on whatnot. Way better customer service
Shit man, just the fees they charged you in the earlier video is enough to avoid Ebay. They know they have #'s to sell pretty much anything anywhere and are now abusing the hell out of it.
Huge failure on eBay’s part! Glad u received your cards back. Honestly I wouldn’t do business on eBay if they handled it this way
Totally disappointed with Ebay
Guys don't sell high value on Ebay, trust me. It's a huge risk.
so after all this you are still down 150? pretty bold of him to ask you to cover half