I would like to counter argue you saying rosti isn't a clone/automata. Cause in the manga iirc we do see cracks on his hand as he is about to die. I wish there was a way for me to saw images on RUclips but there isn't. Then again I could be mistaken/wrong.
Do you mean chapter 24 page 44. Where they shards around his hands? I think those are some more of Will’s forgotten memories given to Rosti by the queen
@@broknowsanime hmm. Interesting. I didn't think of it in that way. Also I have a question for you. Can we assume that Will is the queens son cause cause I mean there is the whole dream of wand and sword coning together . Plus she was holding him as a baby. It got me curious of if she was his mother or not. What are your thoughts/theory on this?
Spoiler alert⚠️ Remember Elfie's favorite hobby "sleeps a lot" which gives her better control over Rosty. Elfie's magic nature is Frosty and to make it obvious Will's roomie is Rosty(Frosty - Rosty)
Let me clear it Rosti is Clone or not of Elfie 1) While Julius fighting with will, you can see after revealing his past (will) Not only Elfie but also rosti get embarrassed rather than shocked like that he's one who's past is revealed. 2) As you know Rosti is appeared in dungeon 11th floor. How he reach there so fastly and not only this he has a crystal like stone which he throws at will and saying remember will. What remember?? remember his past with Elfie ( here is a spoiler from light novel if you want me to explain that just reply it) After taking that crystal stone will remember his past with Elfie (Note : I can explicitely expand this whole point but it's give you two major spoiler so I avoiding it. It's from Light novel) So point is how rosti know about will past with Elfie. How?? Here a point from Light novel which relatively explain it but it also an spoiler 3) Elfie is named as Embodiment of laziness why?? Because she continuously sleeps or watch over will . But in prequel LN Elfie always either play with will or read books and after entering the academy she desperately trying learning about something ( This also contain an spoiler so again avoiding it) She continually read high level books and score as much as will in written and oral exam Means she matching will in academy and we know how much will capable at academics like no one match him in studying. So this whole it about like Elfie is never an lazy girl but a determined and passionate girl So why she get lazy at tower like sleeping continually ( Let me expand this point with spoiler When she entered at academy she uses her magic to create many multiple clone which whole night gain knowledge about something particular about wills one problem from that academy high level library's While doing this she sleep with will and her clone get knowledge whole night Means she controlling multiple clone which even high mages unable to stop and catch) So there a chance she can sometime control rosty . 4) Rostys behavior is same as Elfie How?? He's affectionate like Elfie toward will He's Overprotective like Elfie towards will He's taking bath with will like Elfie He's helping will like how Elfie help will He's creating magic item for will like how Elfie created He's trying to stop girl which approach will like how Elfie do. And many more cases How there personality matches 5) Rosti getting jealous of Colette Why?? Because will is going on date with other girl, Because Will will spending his time and thought with some other girl And the way he ask is that girl is Collete is like he know who can ask will this kind of stuff like he know her very well but he never knew Collete that much but Elfie know. So point is rosty getting jealous of girl who just asking will to go on shopping But not jealous of girl for which will continually working hard to reunite with He know how much will love Elfie more than himself He know how much Elfie meant for will But he never get jealous of Elfie. Despite she's just a girl like Collete Despite this He helping will to reach that tower so he can reunite with will Means Will will left rosty in future So why he not getting jealous of Elfie?? 6) Rosty know about past of will ( Spoiler alert : Which itself will forgot and that only share by will and Elfie no one other than them knew ) So how he know about it 7) This manga author is same as danmachi ( Why including this point ?? Because of there similarities in story line) . 8) the pieces of ice fragment near rosty. 9) Spoiler alert : when rosty get killer by that monster and the same time Elfie wake up and try to go to protect will How she knew will is in danger She said I going to protect whom I care Why she is sleeping in that danger situation and wake up just as rosty died 10) Rosty said that he love will more than anyone even more than Elfie do. Rest is up to you hope you get it. 11) Despite Elfie and there step father know one knows about will high potential and stength So how rosty know will going to defeat Julius in that condition even he never go on dungeon with him 12) How Elfie know what's going on stadium from that high distance deference And rosty and Elfie get flustered embrassed at same time . 13) Rosty repeating same word which always said by elfie like she never leave will, she always by his side, she love will more than anyone else. 14) Most most importantly the hint in the light novel about rosty and Elfie 15) Hiding voice artist And I heard that Elfie voice artist can also speak in boys voice. 16) Regarding controlling Elfie control her many clone which are spread across different library's different section while flirting, teasing will in his room and roaming around his room Also that clone work on there own like reading different books of different topic differently like acting on there own. 17) Elfie promised will to never leave him alone at any cost . 18) Rosty profile description at many most popular side include trivia as Elfie clone I have more points but I think this is enough.
Also, if you feel like adding this to your list: The author of Wistoria is the same author of Danmachi. Now in Danmachi season 5 episode 3-4, it is revealed that Syr was Freya all along, not a clone as many fans thought because of their similar looks, but she was literally disguised as this person using the name of Horn which was previously Syr, to get closer to Bell. Long story short, is that the author seems to like these kinds of "easter egg" if you call it like that, with the fans and even if Syr wasn't Freya's clone as many thought because of the similarities and instead it was Freya herself, this time in Wistoria the author is most likely going to use the clone card, as besides the name play, Rosty looks nothing like Elfaria herself unless you take her eyes in account. Which contrasts with Syr/Freya from Danmachi, alot, they even have different eye colours there.
@@anonymous-ix7kr while still it's an presumption to say it, Cause it doesn't mean if both stories author is same means story plotting will be as same one of them
Rosti is not exactly a clone but perhaps a human doll. Look at this way. The author of the story also wrote danmachi, in danmachi , it is told syl is a human who was found by freya and gave the goddess of her body. Idk the full reasons probably to keep eyes open for any special adventurerars like bell or keep an eye on mama and ana because they were part of her familia.Freya can see everything and hear everything syl does,even when she is not in control. Kinda like naruto with his clones, the host of their copys can relay that info their doll did.
I don't see Elfira controlling Rosti. Rosti likely is a perfected, independent clone also known as an avatar a clone with zero. imperfections. Elfira had a decade to hone her skills. As mentioned she created her independent clones when she was 2 years old. She is now seeing through the eyes of her avatar. We've seen many times in comics that MCs have always thought they met the real deal only to find out they were in contact with an avatar. Tomoe in Tsukimichi has a perfected avatar. She is aware and linked with her 'daughter' sans the POV ability but can feel her when something goes wrong.
She's controlling him when she's sleeping that's why she is always sleeping or looking down. She also knows way to much, like will graduating before being told, helping will when he was in danger And chapter 30 basically hinted at even more could say more Now it could be wrong to it's just makes way more sense
@evstark That's Finn the leader of the sword, Finn and Rosti, they are two different beings. He may look young, but he's much older, and both will be in two different places soon enough, at the same time kinda shooting that down. Yes, I did. However, I am ahead of you and well considering how a lot of panels show rosti and elfie right after each other. Not to mention, he keeps randomly appearing where he shouldn't be, has ice crystals, obsession with will, knows too much, and elfie knows things she wasn't told yet. There is a lot more than that, too, but I could spoil some of it if you want
lol there is no reason for rosti to get jealous if it wasn't elfi.but she never show any hate or jealousy when it's about elifi. and in manga when colette said she hate albis vina magia vandera rosti also said she also hate magia vandera with sad look on her face while looking on tower cause she couldn't do any thing for will and at the same time elifi got up and go for meeting after hearing/knowing that conservation she start becoming more active
She created 10 magic spells by herself at a young age and that's why people call her a genius. What if that clone is a perfectionist and unlike Julius' case which he's not even comparable to a 2 year-old Elfaria? And yes, a theory is not a spoiler unless it's actually from light novel or manga.
R u forgetting that at the age of 2 she was making 10 clones of herself... plus in the fight at the magic games when will spoke on how she use to torment him the look on that clones face...
I fully believe that rosti is elfarias hidden ultimate kinda magic. Like kinda half sentient. It all makes sense once you understand that elfira is a yandere. That all of her power advamces are due to her love for will. So its not far fetched to think that shed build a kinda clone so she can be with him always and prevent other girls from getting to him. And making rosti female would be detrimental as well because what if will falls for a female rosti. And when she isnt controlling rosti, rosti is probably fully sentient with a goal to protect will. Also what purpose would it serve elfira to reveal her ability to anyone. Her purpose is literally will she doesnt give a shit about the tower just will. So if will and the others dont know about it then she can be by him and do her job.
My theory is that rosty is the "SWORD" of will, the zonpaktho type thing i am telling, rosty's existence only depends on will and rosty will come again when the mystry of will's mother came out
lol there is no reason for rosti to get jealous if it wasn't elfi.but she never show any hate or jealousy when it's about elifi. and in manga when colette said she hate albis vina magia vandera rosti also said she also hate magia vandera with sad look on her face while looking on tower cause she couldn't do any think and at the same time elifi got up and go for meeting after hearing/knowing she start becoming more active
@@rijackuzu98 I'm going to Preface This This the Fact I'm Dying on This Hill. I will Believe That Rosti isn't Elfaria's Clone Until Stated Otherwise. Now That I Said That, I will Continue. First of all, Rosti does Have a Reason to be Jealous, Rosti is Very Obviously Gay and it's Very Clearly it's Stated Rosti Loves Will. More Than Anybody Else. Second of all, Rosti has Never Interacted With Elfaria, it's Pretty Hard to be Jealous of Someone Whom You Have Never Met. for all Rosti Knows She and Will Could Just be Platonic Besties. and Third of all, What does That Have to do to Prove Your Point? it's More Like a Transition of a Scene Where Rosti and Colette Say They Hate the Magia Vandera to a Scene of One of Them going to a Meeting. I Fail to see how That Proves Your Point.
@@BirbWhoLikesDragons lol rosti is gay?? He have never shown any affection toward will when they are alone . Only time he show he was jealous was with colette. And if you say they bath together then elife does that all time. if you have read light novel before they join magic academy. rosti have never interact with elifi true but all know who she is and what her achivements are if he is really gay then he would feel jealous. And rosti did said he love will more thany anyone the same line which elifi have said many time again and again..and at competetion why was rosti shocked when will told about their past there was no any reason for rosti getting shocked at all and elife had same reaction as rosti...🤔🤔
@@BirbWhoLikesDragons and about their meeting all magia vandera knew elifi was lazy and she was not someone who would join actively even sarissa who is with her all the time was suprised when she saw her being active .and it has never shown how elifi know all about will even tho she is in tower all the time and she is not allowed to interact with other people and mostly will cause he don't have magic people of academy don't allow them to meet. and also when they fight grand duke rosti give ice crystal and said remember will. How would he know that will can use that power by eating spell elfi knew will can do that cause he have done that to save elifi from the monster when they were kid in light novel
@@BirbWhoLikesDragons and of all rosti knew about will past event which only elifi knew about if we considered it was queen doing its not impossibe but why would use rosti use water magic which elifi can use and knew about will past. And love will romantically.if rosti was made by queen i don't think this gonna happen
You’re wrong there were shards of ice when Rostie was killed. They were somewhat easy to miss, but you see them in the panel where Will is reaching out his hand to Rostie as was being impaled by the mage slayer.
@@broknowsanime my theory is she can only make one clone to such detail to control and give semi-independence when she is not focused. You can summon familiars with magic as well and Rosty maybe a combination of summoning magic and clone magic. Elfaria is known to be the best at spell crafting after all.
Read 25 again he shatters because he's made of ice and who uses ice magic, and when he reappears who is shown in the next page sitting in same position and congratulating will on graduating
@broknowsanime You may want to go back and read it again when he was reaching for will and saying he will always been here for him. His hand started to crack, and then in the next panel, you see ice shards where his hand was just reaching out. He's not bleeding either in multiple panels even after getting stabbed by a giant sword.
@@Silenthitman44 he is bleeding after his arms get cut off there’s blood dropping and there was blood coming out his chest when get stabbed plus those same cracks can be seen on other people stabbed by the sword
no rosti and elfaria theory is Cap/too much copium they are not connected at all they just share the same admiration Rosti is definitely connected to Magic Queen Mercedes somehow for sure
@@broknowsanime If you say so and it's what most people think there's more to this than yours but you think there is no possibility other than your own. You keep telling others to prove it or back it up but you haven't really either and don't have an open mind. While yes it could be possible but a majority of the fan base actually thinks Rosty is an elfie possessed construct now yes that can be wrong to and well to be honest we could all be wrong to so at least keep that in mind
@@Silenthitman44 that’s not true to ask someone to prove it is to provide evidence without a shadow of a doubt when i myself has called this a theory and said i just don’t believe it because there is no without a shadow of a doubt on ether side. 1. To help the case of rosti being a clone he appears in the light novel after Elferia goes to the tower not before. He appears on the 11th floor of the dungeon holding a crystal or an ice shard nether of these can be confirmed because it was stated what it was just showed signs. Rosti obsessive behavior with will upon first meeting him in the light novel. Rosti hand cracking which could be a visual representation i don’t know 🤷🏻♂️ because once again it’s not stated just shown. Rosti Neumann
Indeed, i believe. Rosti is not a clone, 1. During Julius and wils fight, wil knows julius clone weaknesses by observing the temperature of the real body and not, clones temperatures isn't comparable to the real body. 2. If rosti is clone as you have said, when he is stabbed if that is clone the body would dissipate. 3. Diffinitely wil notice rosti if that is maid of clone. I believe it is not.
The most recent anime episode (11 as of writing this) clearly shows Elfie controlling Rosti so it's pretty hard to argue. Either way, Elfie somehow has the ability to see THROUGH Rosti's eyes even if he isn't a direct clone.
@@broknowsanime This is so blatantly wrong it’s almost, just almost funny. Tell me what Rosti, a craftsman and not a fighter confirmed by none other than himself, was doing on the 11th floor UNDETECTED with a deadpan expression, different eye color, different tone of voice and a magic ICE/AZURE crystal that allows Will to remember the whole ”Wand and Sword” schtik? Also why the hell was Elfie even present in those memories/flashbacks if it has ”zero relation/did nothing to show this” like you’re implying? Don’t give me the ol’ ”well ackshually he’s secretly the strongest mage in existence, just undercover as a student!!”
@@Jepegish that’s is the dumbest conclusion. There are multiple ways he can get down there. 1. The flashback is repressed memories of both Elferia and Will’s mom the dark queen, so how does Elferia have access to a memory of the queen holding her child as a baby? Let’s start with answering that 2. There are more people in this show than just Elferia that can take him down there or teach him how to get there. The dark queen was shown beside Fin a dungeon traveler who has went down to the 65th floor deeper then any magna vada has. 3. The prophecy of the wand and sword elferia doesn’t know about because if she did she would argue it to the magna vadas in later chapters the only people who know the wand and sword prophecy are the king, queen, fin, and cauldron 4 people so why would anyone outside of them mention its wand and sword? This is easily debunked if you know everything that going on in the manga and show
@@Silenthitman44 so I am guessing you never seen a anime or manga stop bleeding from a part. We see them stop it bleeding in multiple animes after attacks hell even dan machi is guilty of this. I’m guessing you also never seen someone come back as a spirit and congratulate anyone it’s a common trope buddy on both of those.
To be clear I haven’t found a English translation fan or official of the light novel I know that helps the Rosti is a clone theory a little but barely
I would like to counter argue you saying rosti isn't a clone/automata. Cause in the manga iirc we do see cracks on his hand as he is about to die. I wish there was a way for me to saw images on RUclips but there isn't. Then again I could be mistaken/wrong.
Do you mean chapter 24 page 44. Where they shards around his hands? I think those are some more of Will’s forgotten memories given to Rosti by the queen
@@broknowsanime hmm. Interesting. I didn't think of it in that way. Also I have a question for you. Can we assume that Will is the queens son cause cause I mean there is the whole dream of wand and sword coning together . Plus she was holding him as a baby. It got me curious of if she was his mother or not. What are your thoughts/theory on this?
@@thunderanime27 with chapter 45 where she is a being inside Will and holding him during the flashback I do think he is the queen and fins son
(F)Rosty (S)Nowman
Spoiler alert⚠️
Remember Elfie's favorite hobby "sleeps a lot" which gives her better control over Rosty. Elfie's magic nature is Frosty and to make it obvious Will's roomie is Rosty(Frosty - Rosty)
Let me clear it
Rosti is Clone or not of Elfie
1) While Julius fighting with will, you can see after revealing his past (will) Not only Elfie but also rosti get embarrassed rather than shocked like that he's one who's past is revealed.
2) As you know Rosti is appeared in dungeon 11th floor. How he reach there so fastly and not only this he has a crystal like stone which he throws at will and saying remember will.
What remember?? remember his past with Elfie ( here is a spoiler from light novel if you want me to explain that just reply it)
After taking that crystal stone will remember his past with Elfie
(Note : I can explicitely expand this whole point but it's give you two major spoiler so I avoiding it. It's from Light novel)
So point is how rosti know about will past with Elfie. How??
Here a point from Light novel which relatively explain it but it also an spoiler
3) Elfie is named as Embodiment of laziness why?? Because she continuously sleeps or watch over will .
But in prequel LN Elfie always either play with will or read books and after entering the academy she desperately trying learning about something ( This also contain an spoiler so again avoiding it)
She continually read high level books and score as much as will in written and oral exam Means she matching will in academy and we know how much will capable at academics like no one match him in studying.
So this whole it about like Elfie is never an lazy girl but a determined and passionate girl
So why she get lazy at tower like sleeping continually
( Let me expand this point with spoiler
When she entered at academy she uses her magic to create many multiple clone which whole night gain knowledge about something particular about wills one problem from that academy high level library's
While doing this she sleep with will and her clone get knowledge whole night
Means she controlling multiple clone which even high mages unable to stop and catch)
So there a chance she can sometime control rosty .
4) Rostys behavior is same as Elfie
How??
He's affectionate like Elfie toward will
He's Overprotective like Elfie towards will
He's taking bath with will like Elfie
He's helping will like how Elfie help will
He's creating magic item for will like how Elfie created
He's trying to stop girl which approach will like how Elfie do.
And many more cases
How there personality matches
5) Rosti getting jealous of Colette
Why?? Because will is going on date with other girl, Because Will will spending his time and thought with some other girl
And the way he ask is that girl is Collete is like he know who can ask will this kind of stuff like he know her very well but he never knew Collete that much but Elfie know.
So point is rosty getting jealous of girl who just asking will to go on shopping
But not jealous of girl for which will continually working hard to reunite with
He know how much will love Elfie more than himself
He know how much Elfie meant for will
But he never get jealous of Elfie.
Despite she's just a girl like Collete
Despite this He helping will to reach that tower so he can reunite with will
Means Will will left rosty in future
So why he not getting jealous of Elfie??
6) Rosty know about past of will
( Spoiler alert : Which itself will forgot and that only share by will and Elfie no one other than them knew )
So how he know about it
7) This manga author is same as danmachi
( Why including this point ?? Because of there similarities in story line) .
8) the pieces of ice fragment near rosty.
9) Spoiler alert : when rosty get killer by that monster and the same time Elfie wake up and try to go to protect will
How she knew will is in danger
She said I going to protect whom I care
Why she is sleeping in that danger situation and wake up just as rosty died
10) Rosty said that he love will more than anyone even more than Elfie do.
Rest is up to you hope you get it.
11) Despite Elfie and there step father know one knows about will high potential and stength
So how rosty know will going to defeat Julius in that condition even he never go on dungeon with him
12) How Elfie know what's going on stadium from that high distance deference
And rosty and Elfie get flustered embrassed at same time .
13) Rosty repeating same word which always said by elfie like she never leave will, she always by his side, she love will more than anyone else.
14) Most most importantly the hint in the light novel about rosty and Elfie
15) Hiding voice artist
And I heard that Elfie voice artist can also speak in boys voice.
16) Regarding controlling
Elfie control her many clone which are spread across different library's different section while flirting, teasing will in his room and roaming around his room
Also that clone work on there own like reading different books of different topic differently like acting on there own.
17) Elfie promised will to never leave him alone at any cost .
18) Rosty profile description at many most popular side include trivia as Elfie clone
I have more points but I think this is enough.
Nice work bro❤❤❤❤
Where I can read light novel??
where do we read light novel any link?
Also, if you feel like adding this to your list:
The author of Wistoria is the same author of Danmachi.
Now in Danmachi season 5 episode 3-4, it is revealed that Syr was Freya all along, not a clone as many fans thought because of their similar looks, but she was literally disguised as this person using the name of Horn which was previously Syr, to get closer to Bell.
Long story short, is that the author seems to like these kinds of "easter egg" if you call it like that, with the fans and even if Syr wasn't Freya's clone as many thought because of the similarities and instead it was Freya herself, this time in Wistoria the author is most likely going to use the clone card, as besides the name play, Rosty looks nothing like Elfaria herself unless you take her eyes in account.
Which contrasts with Syr/Freya from Danmachi, alot, they even have different eye colours there.
@@anonymous-ix7kr while still it's an presumption to say it, Cause it doesn't mean if both stories author is same means story plotting will be as same one of them
Rosti is not exactly a clone but perhaps a human doll. Look at this way. The author of the story also wrote danmachi, in danmachi , it is told syl is a human who was found by freya and gave the goddess of her body. Idk the full reasons probably to keep eyes open for any special adventurerars like bell or keep an eye on mama and ana because they were part of her familia.Freya can see everything and hear everything syl does,even when she is not in control. Kinda like naruto with his clones, the host of their copys can relay that info their doll did.
I would accept a human doll or a homologous
I don't see Elfira controlling Rosti. Rosti likely is a perfected, independent clone also known as an avatar a clone with zero. imperfections. Elfira had a decade to hone her skills. As mentioned she created her independent clones when she was 2 years old. She is now seeing through the eyes of her avatar.
We've seen many times in comics that MCs have always thought they met the real deal only to find out they were in contact with an avatar.
Tomoe in Tsukimichi has a perfected avatar. She is aware and linked with her 'daughter' sans the POV ability but can feel her when something goes wrong.
The only clone elfie can make is controlled clones
She's controlling him when she's sleeping that's why she is always sleeping or looking down.
She also knows way to much, like will graduating before being told, helping will when he was in danger
And chapter 30 basically hinted at even more could say more
Now it could be wrong to it's just makes way more sense
@@broknowsanime well in light novelelifi made diffrent clone to do different thing while she was playing with will tho
Rosty is s Queen Dark Mage summon. The Queen is Will's mother. The Queen use some memories of Will to courage to unlock Power for future grand battle.
My thoughts exactly!
It's not, it's elfie and an ice construct
@@Silenthitman44 Did you see the latest episode ,that Rosty talk to the Queen , therefore Rosty from the Queen not Elfie
@evstark
That's Finn the leader of the sword, Finn and Rosti, they are two different beings.
He may look young, but he's much older, and both will be in two different places soon enough, at the same time kinda shooting that down.
Yes, I did. However, I am ahead of you and well considering how a lot of panels show rosti and elfie right after each other. Not to mention, he keeps randomly appearing where he shouldn't be, has ice crystals, obsession with will, knows too much, and elfie knows things she wasn't told yet.
There is a lot more than that, too, but I could spoil some of it if you want
@@evstark Yeah that's not Rosty, that's an entirely different character who hasn't previously been introduced.
lol there is no reason for rosti to get jealous if it wasn't elfi.but she never show any hate or jealousy when it's about elifi. and in manga when colette said she hate albis vina magia vandera rosti also said she also hate magia vandera with sad look on her face while looking on tower cause she couldn't do any thing for will and at the same time elifi got up and go for meeting after hearing/knowing that conservation she start becoming more active
She created 10 magic spells by herself at a young age and that's why people call her a genius. What if that clone is a perfectionist and unlike Julius' case which he's not even comparable to a 2 year-old Elfaria? And yes, a theory is not a spoiler unless it's actually from light novel or manga.
We seen her clones in the manga already which was in this video they break the same way. We see it in her fight vs Zoe the thunder magna vaida
R u forgetting that at the age of 2 she was making 10 clones of herself... plus in the fight at the magic games when will spoke on how she use to torment him the look on that clones face...
Of herself when did she ever show making them of someone else with other genders parts
I fully believe that rosti is elfarias hidden ultimate kinda magic. Like kinda half sentient. It all makes sense once you understand that elfira is a yandere. That all of her power advamces are due to her love for will. So its not far fetched to think that shed build a kinda clone so she can be with him always and prevent other girls from getting to him. And making rosti female would be detrimental as well because what if will falls for a female rosti. And when she isnt controlling rosti, rosti is probably fully sentient with a goal to protect will.
Also what purpose would it serve elfira to reveal her ability to anyone. Her purpose is literally will she doesnt give a shit about the tower just will. So if will and the others dont know about it then she can be by him and do her job.
Hidden Magic is more believable then clone
My theory is that rosty is the "SWORD" of will, the zonpaktho type thing i am telling, rosty's existence only depends on will and rosty will come again when the mystry of will's mother came out
My Exact Thoughts on Why I don't Think Rosti is Elfaria's Clone
lol there is no reason for rosti to get jealous if it wasn't elfi.but she never show any hate or jealousy when it's about elifi. and in manga when colette said she hate albis vina magia vandera rosti also said she also hate magia vandera with sad look on her face while looking on tower cause she couldn't do any think and at the same time elifi got up and go for meeting after hearing/knowing she start becoming more active
@@rijackuzu98 I'm going to Preface This This the Fact I'm Dying on This Hill. I will Believe That Rosti isn't Elfaria's Clone Until Stated Otherwise. Now That I Said That, I will Continue.
First of all, Rosti does Have a Reason to be Jealous, Rosti is Very Obviously Gay and it's Very Clearly it's Stated Rosti Loves Will. More Than Anybody Else. Second of all, Rosti has Never Interacted With Elfaria, it's Pretty Hard to be Jealous of Someone Whom You Have Never Met. for all Rosti Knows She and Will Could Just be Platonic Besties. and Third of all, What does That Have to do to Prove Your Point? it's More Like a Transition of a Scene Where Rosti and Colette Say They Hate the Magia Vandera to a Scene of One of Them going to a Meeting. I Fail to see how That Proves Your Point.
@@BirbWhoLikesDragons lol rosti is gay?? He have never shown any affection toward will when they are alone . Only time he show he was jealous was with colette. And if you say they bath together then elife does that all time. if you have read light novel before they join magic academy. rosti have never interact with elifi true but all know who she is and what her achivements are if he is really gay then he would feel jealous. And rosti did said he love will more thany anyone the same line which elifi have said many time again and again..and at competetion why was rosti shocked when will told about their past there was no any reason for rosti getting shocked at all and elife had same reaction as rosti...🤔🤔
@@BirbWhoLikesDragons and about their meeting all magia vandera knew elifi was lazy and she was not someone who would join actively even sarissa who is with her all the time was suprised when she saw her being active .and it has never shown how elifi know all about will even tho she is in tower all the time and she is not allowed to interact with other people and mostly will cause he don't have magic people of academy don't allow them to meet. and also when they fight grand duke rosti give ice crystal and said remember will. How would he know that will can use that power by eating spell elfi knew will can do that cause he have done that to save elifi from the monster when they were kid in light novel
@@BirbWhoLikesDragons and of all rosti knew about will past event which only elifi knew about if we considered it was queen doing its not impossibe but why would use rosti use water magic which elifi can use and knew about will past. And love will romantically.if rosti was made by queen i don't think this gonna happen
Unless rosty is a magical item herself 🤔
You’re wrong there were shards of ice when Rostie was killed. They were somewhat easy to miss, but you see them in the panel where Will is reaching out his hand to Rostie as was being impaled by the mage slayer.
Clones break instantly not slowly
@@broknowsanime my theory is she can only make one clone to such detail to control and give semi-independence when she is not focused. You can summon familiars with magic as well and Rosty maybe a combination of summoning magic and clone magic. Elfaria is known to be the best at spell crafting after all.
So is no one gonna pin the fact that Elfaria didnt bother to tell will he was clone after Rosti death despite it traumatizing him
I think yes.. cus he say to collete he love will more than anyone.. first one come to my mind is elfie
i think so. because he appeared again in chapter 30 i think after being killed
Read 25 again he shatters because he's made of ice and who uses ice magic, and when he reappears who is shown in the next page sitting in same position and congratulating will on graduating
He didn’t shatter
@@Silenthitman44 yeah that part convinced me theres a big chance. that rosti is elfie's clone.
@broknowsanime
You may want to go back and read it again when he was reaching for will and saying he will always been here for him.
His hand started to crack, and then in the next panel, you see ice shards where his hand was just reaching out. He's not bleeding either in multiple panels even after getting stabbed by a giant sword.
@@Silenthitman44 he is bleeding after his arms get cut off there’s blood dropping and there was blood coming out his chest when get stabbed plus those same cracks can be seen on other people stabbed by the sword
made it bigger than will x_x
Rosti is stated by Will to be bigger
@@broknowsanime i know, its perfect canon :p
no rosti and elfaria theory is Cap/too much copium they are not connected at all they just share the same admiration Rosti is definitely connected to Magic Queen Mercedes somehow for sure
Thank you!
Yeah remember when they are trap in the floor eleven rusti drop ah crystal for will an said remember, how did rusti get there?
If my theory is correct him and elfiera are subordinates of the queen and with that he would know how to travel the dungeon through the fastest routes
@@broknowsanime
Your theory is wrong before you say anything I am all caught up on manga in 25 something happens
Your theory is also wrong 😑 see how that works I’m caught up too what evidence do you have
@@broknowsanime
If you say so and it's what most people think there's more to this than yours but you think there is no possibility other than your own.
You keep telling others to prove it or back it up but you haven't really either and don't have an open mind.
While yes it could be possible but a majority of the fan base actually thinks Rosty is an elfie possessed construct now yes that can be wrong to and well to be honest we could all be wrong to so at least keep that in mind
@@Silenthitman44 that’s not true to ask someone to prove it is to provide evidence without a shadow of a doubt when i myself has called this a theory and said i just don’t believe it because there is no without a shadow of a doubt on ether side.
1. To help the case of rosti being a clone he appears in the light novel after Elferia goes to the tower not before. He appears on the 11th floor of the dungeon holding a crystal or an ice shard nether of these can be confirmed because it was stated what it was just showed signs. Rosti obsessive behavior with will upon first meeting him in the light novel. Rosti hand cracking which could be a visual representation i don’t know 🤷🏻♂️ because once again it’s not stated just shown. Rosti Neumann
Indeed, i believe. Rosti is not a clone,
1. During Julius and wils fight, wil knows julius clone weaknesses by observing the temperature of the real body and not, clones temperatures isn't comparable to the real body.
2. If rosti is clone as you have said, when he is stabbed if that is clone the body would dissipate.
3. Diffinitely wil notice rosti if that is maid of clone.
I believe it is not.
She is actually, I always say rosti is not elfy. But recent episode obviously show that rosti is elfi
The most recent anime episode (11 as of writing this) clearly shows Elfie controlling Rosti so it's pretty hard to argue. Either way, Elfie somehow has the ability to see THROUGH Rosti's eyes even if he isn't a direct clone.
No it doesn’t episode 11 did nothing to show this
@@broknowsanime This is so blatantly wrong it’s almost, just almost funny.
Tell me what Rosti, a craftsman and not a fighter confirmed by none other than himself, was doing on the 11th floor UNDETECTED with a deadpan expression, different eye color, different tone of voice and a magic ICE/AZURE crystal that allows Will to remember the whole ”Wand and Sword” schtik?
Also why the hell was Elfie even present in those memories/flashbacks if it has ”zero relation/did nothing to show this” like you’re implying?
Don’t give me the ol’ ”well ackshually he’s secretly the strongest mage in existence, just undercover as a student!!”
@@Jepegish that’s is the dumbest conclusion. There are multiple ways he can get down there.
1. The flashback is repressed memories of both Elferia and Will’s mom the dark queen, so how does Elferia have access to a memory of the queen holding her child as a baby? Let’s start with answering that
2. There are more people in this show than just Elferia that can take him down there or teach him how to get there. The dark queen was shown beside Fin a dungeon traveler who has went down to the 65th floor deeper then any magna vada has.
3. The prophecy of the wand and sword elferia doesn’t know about because if she did she would argue it to the magna vadas in later chapters the only people who know the wand and sword prophecy are the king, queen, fin, and cauldron 4 people so why would anyone outside of them mention its wand and sword? This is easily debunked if you know everything that going on in the manga and show
Dude it’s way too obvious it’s her.
Except it’s not obvious 😀
Nah... rosti is a alchemic god... the one died is a humonculus... he make multiple copies of himself😎
Rosty is Elferia tho
Prove it
@@broknowsanime search for it don't want to argue ☺️ or let's wait for the reveal
@@broknowsanime
Have you read the manga?
@@Silenthitman44 I have read it there’s no proof in the manga 😂😂😂😂
@@Silenthitman44 I even showed panels from the manga
Yes absolutely, when rosty was killed, there was no blood spilled from her body as you will not see the blood from him in the manga. 🤣🤣🤣
I hope you’re being sarcastic or mocking the other people
@broknowsanime
They aren't they are spoiling it
There’s blood coming from his chest and arm how’s he spoiling when he’s wrong?
@@broknowsanime
And why did it just stop then and why does he basically shatter then repear later on unharmed
@@Silenthitman44 so I am guessing you never seen a anime or manga stop bleeding from a part. We see them stop it bleeding in multiple animes after attacks hell even dan machi is guilty of this. I’m guessing you also never seen someone come back as a spirit and congratulate anyone it’s a common trope buddy on both of those.
ROSTI is ELFARIA
Nah