What a stupid video. What a pity Christians believe in it. The word "trinity" does not even exist in the Bible. It was officiated in 325 AD in Nicean Council & formulated in 381 AD. Jesus says to keep the most important commandment of all: "Hear O Israel, our Lord is ONE God," not TRINITY! WAKE UP GUYS!!!
@@1234poppycat "Three in one": a human tradition "The true worshippers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for the Father also seeks such as his worshippers" (John 4:23). This is like a demand that should give every human being pause for thought. Jesus teaches unequivocally that the Father is pleased only with those who worship Him "in spirit and truth." Every truly God-fearing person must therefore be ready, undaunted and sparing no effort, to seek the truth that can lead him to the knowledge of the Creator of all things. Once one has recognized this, this truth becomes one's own view of life, giving meaning and direction. God is quite right to make such demands on His creatures - and thus His subjects. We all have to admit this sooner or later when we deal with this problem mentally. It would not occur to anyone to approach a worldly monarch without scrupulously observing all the rules of etiquette. If those rules were unknown to the subordinate, he would no doubt immediately make a serious effort to obtain the necessary information. How much more important it is then to proceed accordingly, or even more carefully, when we wish to approach the Ruler of all things! Well-disposed worship of God is possible only when we truly know the Lord we wish to serve. Let us be completely open: Almost all "Christian" denominations and sects profess the doctrine of the Trinity. In principle, they acknowledge the "one God", but according to this claim, this one God is at the same time a "triune being", consisting of Father, Son and Holy Spirit. This dogma is not biblically based. It owes its existence to a proposal by Athanasius, the bishop of Alexandria. At the Council of Nicaea in 325 A.D., under the leadership of the Roman Emperor Constantine the Great, this proposal was accepted and officially recognized as a profession of faith in the 5th century A.D.
@@Tessinentdecken The Nicaean Creed was not the first time Catholicism / Christianity understood in the trinity -- One person could not make it upp In any case why would they ??? 90% of what you posted does not conflict with the trinity and I post it here """The true worshippers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for the Father also seeks such as his worshippers" (John 4:23). This is like a demand that should give every human being pause for thought. Jesus teaches unequivocally that the Father is pleased only with those who worship Him "in spirit and truth." Every truly God-fearing person must therefore be ready, undaunted and sparing no effort, to seek the truth that can lead him to the knowledge of the Creator of all things. Once one has recognized this, this truth becomes one's own view of life, giving meaning and direction. God is quite right to make such demands on His creatures - and thus His subjects. We all have to admit this sooner or later when we deal with this problem mentally. It would not occur to anyone to approach a worldly monarch without scrupulously observing all the rules of etiquette. If those rules were unknown to the subordinate, he would no doubt immediately make a serious effort to obtain the necessary information. How much more important it is then to proceed accordingly, or even more carefully, when we wish to approach the Ruler of all things! Well-disposed worship of God is possible only when we truly know the Lord we wish to serve. Let us be completely open: Almost all "Christian" denominations and sects profess the doctrine of the Trinity. In principle, they acknowledge the "one God", but according to this claim, this one God is at the same time a "triune being", consisting of Father, Son and Holy Spirit. """ Nearly every Christian believe in the trinity because it is true
To all those on this feed, one of guys I often share bible topic with, verbalized that he felt I am lost. If that is your feelings as well, I want to thank you for your concern. I take consultation in one scripture. John 17:3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. The passage above denotes the things we need things we need to do to gain everlasting life. To take knowledge of Jehovah and Jesus. No where in the passage does it speak of three. Nor does it require me to take in knowledge of a trinity. Thanks for you loving concern.
@Simply Scripture 1 john 5:6 This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth. 7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. Google this, this passage was not in the original text. Some one added it. Note when Jesus make this statement he was the embodiment of the Word and he also housed the Holy Spirit. Read John 20:17 Master. 17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.
@@Tessinentdecken amen the trinity is a teaching of humans a teaching of the apostasy that paul spoke about. Jesus is indeed the king of the jews these jews being those who are jews by the spirit not the flesh
To even question "the Trinity" is like lighting a fuse. Someone's bound to explode with anger and accusations like "cult" and "heretic." But being mortal as we are, we don't "get" what it's like to be spirit and are poorly qualified to explain spiritual things. However: in scripture we can we can find plenty of evidence *against* a trinity. ▬ Most New Testament letters begin with greetings such as "Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ." All these greetings *_include both God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ._* But *_none of them includes the holy spirit._* Not one of them mentions or includes or addresses the holy spirit as a person. Can we be open-minded enough to consider this as evidence that the apostles - the writers of these letters - did *not* believe the holy spirit was a third person? ▬ John 14:23 shines much-needed light on the topic. Here Jesus explains that both He and the Father would come and dwell in us. *They - the two - would make their "abode" in us:* ⚫ "Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him." (John 14:23) Jesus said He and the Father would dwell in is. Obviously that's two, not three. ⚫ "But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him." (1 Cor 8:6) Again, it's two: the Father and the Lord Jesus. [It's interesting to note the similarity between this verse, and others which show creation of all things was directed (re: "of whom") by the Father . . . and was executed (re: "by whom") -by or through Jesus. Compare to Eph 3:9, Hebrews 1:1,2 and Col 1:16; only the Father and Jesus are in these verses as well. "And we by him"??? Creation is *still* in process by or through Jesus. Through Jesus sons and daughters for the Fathers eternal family are being created, right now, as they abide in Him.] The two - the Father and Jesus - function as one. Jesus said: ⚫ "I and my Father are one." (John 10:30) Again, that's two -"I and my Father" . . . no mention of a third person. "God is a spirit" (John 4:24) and is holy. When we have the holy spirit in us, we have God the Father and Jesus dwelling in us -just as Jesus said in John 14:23: " . . . and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him." Now notice Romans 8:9: the "Spirit of God" and the "Spirit of Christ" both dwell in us (not some sort of third/other person): ⚫ "But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his" ▬ We see God as "us" back in Genesis: ⚫ "And God said, Let *us* make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth." (Gen 1:26) Who are the "us"? The Father and Jesus, as we saw earlier in 1 Cor 8:6 where creation was directed by the Father and executed by Jesus. Here are additional examples: ⚫ "God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;" (Hebrews 1:1,2) ⚫ "And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ" (Eph 3:9). ▬ Who are the "us"? It is the Father, and the "Word" who was *with* God from the beginning . . . And *was* God . . . and *was made flesh:* Jesus. ⚫ "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him [just like the "by him" we saw back in 1 Cor 8:6] and without him was not any thing made that was made." (John 1:1-3) ⚫ "And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth." (John 1:14) Here's another example of "us" in Genesis: ⚫ "And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of *us,* to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:" (Gen 3:22). ▬ Although the Father and Jesus are "one," they seemingly can have separate identity or person: ⚫ "And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was." (John 17:5) What about the favorite trinitarian verses? ▬ 1 John 5:7-8 has questionable origin. Look up the "Johannine Comma" ("comma" referring to the phrase in 1 John 5:7,8) to get the detail on that. 1 John 5:7-8 is apparently not found in the majority of early Greek texts, but appears in later Latin texts . . . causing great controversy back in the early 1500s. ▬ Matthew 28:19 is also questionable: ⚫ "Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost" Why is it questionable? Because what the apostles actually *did* was baptize *in Jesus' name only:* ⚫ "Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost." (Acts 2:38) ⚫ "(For as yet he was fallen upon none of them: only they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.)" (Acts 8:16) ⚫ "And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days." (Acts 10:48) ⚫ "When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus." (Acts 19:5) ⚫ "Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?" (Romans 6:3)
The (Trinitarians) shall die in their sins. The (Trinity) is not only a vain, idle, perverse, corrupt, word of confusion and the word is not only not found in the book of the LORD'S holy scriptures, but the doctrine of the (Trinity) is also a lie, a doctrine of devils and damnable heresy. Ephesians 5:6 Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience. 2Peters 2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. 2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. 3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not. Jesus is the only wise God and Saviour, the blessed and only Potentate, the Almighty and he is known by many names. God is a Spirit, a Holy Spirit and when he was manifested in the flesh he was known as the Son of God and the Son of man. The (he) that was manifested to take away our sins in 1John 3:5 is the (Father) in 1John 3 line 1: 1John 3:1 Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not. 2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 3 And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure. 4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law. 5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin. Jesus is the Father, the everlasting Father, the Almighty: John 14:8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth us. 9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father? Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. 1John 2:23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also. Genesis 17:1 And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, the LORD appeared to Abram, and said unto him, I am the Almighty God; walk before me, and be thou perfect. John 8:56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad. 57 Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham? 58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. Exodus 3:13 And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, What is his name? what shall I say unto them? 14 And God said unto Moses, I Am That I Am: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I Am hath sent me unto you. Revelation 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen. 8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. 1Timothy 6:14 That thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ: 15 Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords; 16 Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen. John 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins. 25 Then said they unto him, Who art thou? And Jesus saith unto them, Even the same that I said unto you from the beginning. 26 I have many things to say and to judge of you: but he that sent me is true; and I speak to the world those things which I have heard of him. 27 They understood not that he spake to them of the Father.
You have altered understanding of John 1:1. Jesus gave John this revelation 60 some years after his ascension to heaven. The word "Word" is not a name, it is a title. Question 1:If was God; Who or What is he now? Question 2: Why did Jesus not mention the third person of the trinity? Question 3: Why didn't Jesus just is God instead of was? Question 4: Remember Jesus was anoited with Holy Spirit, by your understanding he is now 2/3 of the Godhead. Question 5: Why did the Apostle have to wait for the Holy Spirit? Question 6: Why was Jesus stated sitting to the right hand of God? Question 7: If Jesus is God why does he have wait for all things to be place under him? If Jesus is God, all things are already in subjection to him.
@@PInk77W1 Whereas the word "name" is singular, nowhere in the Scriptures say that all three are one. Besides, nowhere says that Jesus is God. He is the Son of God, but not God the son.
Read Philo’s Trinity and you will see where this heresy of a doctrine was truly first from philosophical and Hell bound teaching turn from it while you still have a chance is the name of the Lord Jesus Christ.🔥📖
Sadly, the so-called ‘Trinity: God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit’ is a false doctrine, and whomsoever believe in such is revering Satan, the ‘god the holy spirit,’ thus stripping God and His Son of worship. According to the Scriptures the Father and the Son ALONE should be worshipped. In 1 Corinthians 8:6 we read, I quote, "But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him." Apostle Paul made it very clear that "but to us there is but one God, the Father" and "one Lord Jesus Christ." If the ONE GOD would consist of three Divine and Co-eternal Beings, as many believe, then, he would have said "but to us there is but one God: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit" but he did not say that. But, if for arguments sake, the Triune God is true, then, in this verse we would end up with to Christs as the ONE GOD would include the God the Son and with another one Lord Jesus Christ, but it is not so! If this piece of Scripture does not open our spiritual eyes, then, believe me, nothing would. It is also interesting that in the New Testament we find ONLY two Divine Beings, the Father and the Son. Nowhere do we find in the Scriptures the term: God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. The Scriptures, however, clearly and plainly reveal to us TWO Divine Beings and not THREE. They also clearly and plainly reveal to us the Holy Spirit as being the Spirit of God and of the Son. For example, Jesus told His disciples He is the Comforter. (John 14:16-18) In verse 18 Jesus called the "Comforter" the "Spirit of Truth" and the "Spirit of Truth" is none other than Jesus Christ Himself! (John 14:6) Another example, is John 10:30 where Jesus said, I quote, "I and my Father are one." But this verse does not say, "I and the Father, and the Holy Spirit are one." Similarly, in the book of Revelation we find only TWO Divine Beings sitting on the throne, but no where do we find the Holy Spirit as a separate being to the Father and to the Son. We have to be very careful not to take the Scripture out of context since it interprets itself and, as I already mentioned, throughout the whole Scripture the Holy Spirit is referred to as the Spirit of God and of Christ.
Your assertions are refuted by Scriptural quotes expained in context as pointed out in the video. Did you listen through to the end? You're right that "we have to be very careful not to take the Scripture out of context". Unfortunately, you've ignored your own advice.
16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; 17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. 18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.” (John 14:16-18) In John 14:16-18 we read that the Comforter is Jesus Christ Himself (v. 17,) called ‘even the Spirit of truth.’ Jesus said, “…I am the way, THE TRUTH, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.” (John 14:6, emphasis supplied.) So, if He is ‘the truth,’ then, I believe, it would be fair to say that He is the ‘Spirit of Truth.’ In v. 18 Jesus went even further by telling His disciples that, ‘I WILL NOT LEAVE YOU COMFORTLESS: I WILL COME TO YOU.’ (Emphasis supplied.) In John 10:30 Jesus said, ‘I and my Father are one.’ He did not say, ‘I and my Father, and the Holy Spirit are one.’ In 1 John 2:1 the apostle clearly tells us who our Comforter is, I quote, “My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:” I am sure you know that both in John 14:16 and 1 John 2:1 the Greek word ‘paraklete’ (‘parakletos’ in John 14:16, and ‘parakleton’ in 1 John 2:1,) is used which means the same. So, according to 1 John 2:1, the Comforter in John 14:16 is ‘Jesus Christ the righteous.’ Despite of all the efforts Trinitarians make, there is not a single piece of Scripture which supports such a doctrine. To the contrary, the Scriptures clearly and plainly speak of the Father and the Son, and not God the Son, as many interpret it. Also, I found nowhere in the Scriptures the term: God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit, as the Scriptures always refers to the Holy Spirit as the Spirit of God and of Christ. Throughout the New Testament (or the whole Scripture) the writers refer to two distinct Divine Beings, the Father and the Son. For example, in the Book of Revelation are only two beings sitting on the throne, the Father and the Lamb, Jesus Christ. If the Holy Spirit is a separate being from the Father and the Son, how is it that it is nowhere in the Scriptures mentioned as such? Or, could it be that the ‘god the holy spirit’ is none other than Satan himself who, through a false doctrine, is seeking worship which belongs to the Father and the Son ALONE? I believe the latter to be true. (All Scriptures are quoted from the King’s James version.)
Also, for example in 1 Corinthians 8:6 we read, I quote, "But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him." Apostle Paul made it very clear that "but to us there is but one God, the Father" and "one Lord Jesus Christ." If the ONE GOD would consist of three Divine and Co-eternal Beings, then, he would have said "but to us there is but one God: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit" but he did not say that. But, if for arguments sake, the Triune God is true, then, in this verse we would end up with to Christs as the ONE GOD would include the God the Son and with another one Lord Jesus Christ.
@Jim Euan The Holy Spirit IS the Father's AND the Son's Spirit (Gal. 4:6). You said, 'The Son is the Father's body', please could you support it with the Scripture?
Exactly The Trinity doctrine belongs to Satan it is The Beast, The Dragon & the false prophet. Don't be conformed to the world. This doctrine is of the world, not God of the Bible.
Romans 8 : 34 "Who shall impeach the elect of God? It is God who acquits. Who is he who condemns? It is Jesus Christ who died, nay rather, who was raised from the dead, and who is at the right hand of God, who also intercedes for us." God intercedes with himself and sits at his right hand. Come on guys get real I am astonished at trinitarians lack of logic.Psalm 58 : 3 “Even from birth the wicked go astray ; from the womb they are wayward and speak lies. Their venom is like the venom of a snake, like that of a cobra that has stopped its ears, that will not heed the tune of the charmer, however skillful the enchanter may be.” satan will not listen he knows everything so are his children.
The easiest way to defend the trinity is to compare it with what the Bible says about God. If the two agree 100%, then that should confirm that the trinity is based squarely on Scripture. But is that the case? Well, judge for yourself: 1a. THE BIBLE says the Father-a single person-is the “only true God.” (John 17:3). 1b. THE TRINITY DOCTRINE says that “every Person [of the trinity] BY HIMSELF [is] God.” That’s THREE GODS! 2a. THE BIBLE says that “for us there is one God, the Father." (1 Cor. 8:6) 2b. THE TRINITY DOCTRINE says “we worship one God IN TRINITY.” 3a. THE BIBLE says the “Father is greater…” (John 14:28) 3b. THE TRINITY DOCTRINE says: “In this trinity, NONE is greater…” 4a. THE BIBLE says Jesus is the Son of God. (John 20:31) 4b. THE TRINITY DOCTRINE says “Jesus IS God,” which makes him a different God from the “one God in trinity." 5a. THE BIBLE says the “Father is greater…” (John 14:28) 5b. THE TRINITY DOCTRINE say that “the whole three persons [of the trinity] are “co-equal.” 6a. THE BIBLE says the holy spirit is not God, but a possession of God and that he gives it to deserving ones. As 1 Thess. 4:8 says: “Therefore, whoever disregards this, disregards not a human being but God, who (also) gives HIS holy Spirit to you.” 6b. THE TRINITY DOCTRINE says that “the holy spirit IS God.” However, A Catholic Dictionary says: “On the whole, the New Testament, like the Old, speaks of the spirit as a divine energy or power.” It adds: “The majority of New Testament texts reveal God’s spirit as someTHING, not someONE.” 7a. THE BIBLE says that the Father is the ONLY person that “the true worshipers” (Christians) should worship. (John 4:23) 7b. THE TRINITY DOCTRINE says: “The trinity in unity is to be worshiped.” So, do the Bible and the Catholic trinity doctrine agree on who God is? Absolutely not! As the New Catholic Encyclopedia says, the trinity “is NOT directly and immediately the Word of God.”
@@Tessinentdecken Basically Christians stopped worshiping the Jewish God (YHWH) a long time ago, the Trinity is based on Neoplatonism, so Christians replaced the Jewish God with the Greek God lol
@@oceanmachine1906 True Christians never stopped worshiping God, whose name is Yahweh, who is Jesus' Father. As Jesus said to his apostles: "But the hour is coming -- indeed is already here -- when true worshippers will worship the Father in spirit and truth: that is the kind of worshipper the Father seeks." (John 4:23) Catholics don't worship the God of the Bible. Instead, they worship a mythical triune deity. As the apostate Athanasian Creed says: "We worship one God in trinity."
No Trinity exists because no "third divine Person" exists. In the Trinity doctrine in order to put a face to the Holy Spirit, even an omnipotent GOD has been INVENTED: the LORD WHO GIVES LIFE ! The alleged "Lord": 1. doesn't talk to the Father in the gospels, 2. doesn't talk the Son in the gospels, 3 He doesn't speak at all: no one ever heard ONE SINGLE WORD from him. 4 is ignored by the Bible (no "Lord who gives life" can be found) 5. is forgotten by Jesus: " My Father works now, so I work." 6. is again forgotten by Jesus : "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" 7. is again forgotten by Jesus : "...I am going to my Father who is greater than I am." 8. is again forgotten by Jesus: " You neither know me nor my Father." 9. is again forgotten by Jesus. " I and my Father are one." 10. is again forgotten by Jesus: " On that day you will know that I am in my Father, you are in me, and I am in you." 11. Jesus crystal clearly states that God is NOT THREE BUT TWO PERSONS: "I am not ALONE because the Father is with me" 12. is again forgotten by Jesus: "...I have not yet ascended to my Father." 13. is again forgotten by Jesus: "I am not ALONE, but I and the Father who sent me are one." 14. is again forgotten by Jesus: "The Father has not left me ALONE because I always do what pleases Him." 15. You cannot pray to Him, just to the Father and to the Son: "Whatever you ask the Father in my name, he will give you.". 16. is again forgotten by Jesus, when He states that ONLY THE FATHER knows the future: "...only the Father knows" 17. is again forgotten by Jesus when He states that "God is a spirit", Jesus should say "God and the Holy Spirit are TWO Spirits". 18. is again forgotten by Jesus when He states that "no one ever saw God", what happens with the "Lord", can He be seen ? 19. the Lord is brutally ignored in the sharing of the property : "the Father had given all things into His hands " 20. allegebly the Lord cannot give you ANYTHING: "whatever you ask of the Father in my name, He will give it to you." 21. the " phantom Lord" also DOES NOT JUDGE: "The Father judges no man, but has turned over all judgment to the Son." 22 the "phantom Lord" does NOT SIT in heaven: " ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power... " 23 the "Holy angels" will be with Jesus, but not the "phantom Lord" "When the Son of man comes WITH HIS HOLY ANGELS, He shall sit upon the throne of His glory." The "Lord" is thus only AN INVENTION! Indeed many christians still believe that the Holy Spirit is a kind of "MAGICAL DUST" falling down the sky, which gives them awesome abilities! Well, the HOLY SPIRIT is neither a magical fluid, nor the invented "Lord": He is the FATHER WHO IS IN THE FORM OF A SPIRIT, because "God is a spirit" means "the Father is a spirit" and is called "the Holy Spirit". In other words, Jesus has the Father who is a spirit and calls Him sometimes "Father", sometimes "Spirit"(Holy), according to circumstances, and this leads to confusion. Thus, blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is SYNONYM of blasphemy against the Father ("...but blasphemy against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven."). No one has been forgotten there: just TWO blasphemies are possible! Jesus also directly confirms that the HOLY SPIRIT inside Him IS THE FATHER: “The words I say to you, I say not on my own but from the FATHER who DWELLS IN ME.” In a smart way you can skip the whole difficult "Comforter paragraph" to directly see who is inside the apostles: the "Spirit of your Father", i.e. once again the Father who is a spirit: no "third God" exists. Here ruclips.net/video/fHw7e4Xhp4w/видео.html you can find 20 verses of the gospels that don't make any sense when interpreted according to the Trinity theory and that make perfectly sense instead with a "DUALITARIAN" interpretation.
@@PInk77W1 They are just a bunch of....The result of their incompetence, cowardy, indifference is that Christianity is now in a full state of collapse in the western countries, about 1 per cent go to mass. The pope hasn't the faintest idea of what Christianity is, neither traditional, nor "modern". How Vigano can be so stupid to campaign against vaccines instead of dealing with other topics also I really cannot figure out. All that is incredible.
@@claudiozanella256 the church has been messed up since day one. Peter was a coward Judas was hand picked by Jesus King David was a murderer Paul wanted Christians dead. The two brother apostles wanted to be Jesus besties. 11 fled the cross when Jesus was kllld. So your interpretation is off, again. As per usual. We have had many bad popes. In fact all 266 were sinners. You have missed everything
The Trinity is illogical, irrational & absurd. Jesus preached that God is only ONE, not 3. The 10 Commandments of #1 says to pray to ONE God and #2 no graven images. The word "trinity" is not even found in the Bible. It was officiated in 325 AD Nicean Council & formulated in 381 AD by a Bishop. The Jews & Muslims worship to only ONE God.
ABSOLUTELY...The Trinity belongs to Satan it is The Beast, The Dragon & the false prophet. Don't be conformed to the world. This doctrine is of the world, not God.
It naturally means G-d is one person with 3 personality .. So its true ..they G-d died !! .. If jesus died then G-d died !! .. Bcoz both are same G-d !! But Tanak said .. There is only one G-d .. Adonai Alohenu Adonai hano ekhad ( Lord G-d is one & He is lord ) !!
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What a great video. What a pity so few have been directed towards it. Thank you... God Bless
What a stupid video. What a pity Christians believe in it. The word "trinity" does not even exist in the Bible. It was officiated in 325 AD in Nicean Council & formulated in 381 AD. Jesus says to keep the most important commandment of all: "Hear O Israel, our Lord is ONE God," not TRINITY! WAKE UP GUYS!!!
Jesus is not God. Jesus is the King of the Jews. The Teaching of the "Trinity God" is man made.
@@Tessinentdecken So sorry you are not a Christian
@@1234poppycat "Three in one": a human tradition "The true worshippers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for the Father also seeks such as his worshippers" (John 4:23). This is like a demand that should give every human being pause for thought. Jesus teaches unequivocally that the Father is pleased only with those who worship Him "in spirit and truth." Every truly God-fearing person must therefore be ready, undaunted and sparing no effort, to seek the truth that can lead him to the knowledge of the Creator of all things. Once one has recognized this, this truth becomes one's own view of life, giving meaning and direction. God is quite right to make such demands on His creatures - and thus His subjects. We all have to admit this sooner or later when we deal with this problem mentally. It would not occur to anyone to approach a worldly monarch without scrupulously observing all the rules of etiquette. If those rules were unknown to the subordinate, he would no doubt immediately make a serious effort to obtain the necessary information. How much more important it is then to proceed accordingly, or even more carefully, when we wish to approach the Ruler of all things! Well-disposed worship of God is possible only when we truly know the Lord we wish to serve. Let us be completely open: Almost all "Christian" denominations and sects profess the doctrine of the Trinity. In principle, they acknowledge the "one God", but according to this claim, this one God is at the same time a "triune being", consisting of Father, Son and Holy Spirit. This dogma is not biblically based. It owes its existence to a proposal by Athanasius, the bishop of Alexandria. At the Council of Nicaea in 325 A.D., under the leadership of the Roman Emperor Constantine the Great, this proposal was accepted and officially recognized as a profession of faith in the 5th century A.D.
@@Tessinentdecken The Nicaean Creed was not the first time Catholicism / Christianity understood in the trinity -- One person could not make it upp In any case why would they ??? 90% of what you posted does not conflict with the trinity and I post it here """The true worshippers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for the Father also seeks such as his worshippers" (John 4:23). This is like a demand that should give every human being pause for thought. Jesus teaches unequivocally that the Father is pleased only with those who worship Him "in spirit and truth." Every truly God-fearing person must therefore be ready, undaunted and sparing no effort, to seek the truth that can lead him to the knowledge of the Creator of all things. Once one has recognized this, this truth becomes one's own view of life, giving meaning and direction. God is quite right to make such demands on His creatures - and thus His subjects. We all have to admit this sooner or later when we deal with this problem mentally. It would not occur to anyone to approach a worldly monarch without scrupulously observing all the rules of etiquette. If those rules were unknown to the subordinate, he would no doubt immediately make a serious effort to obtain the necessary information. How much more important it is then to proceed accordingly, or even more carefully, when we wish to approach the Ruler of all things! Well-disposed worship of God is possible only when we truly know the Lord we wish to serve. Let us be completely open: Almost all "Christian" denominations and sects profess the doctrine of the Trinity. In principle, they acknowledge the "one God", but according to this claim, this one God is at the same time a "triune being", consisting of Father, Son and Holy Spirit. """ Nearly every Christian believe in the trinity because it is true
To all those on this feed, one of guys I often share bible topic with, verbalized that he felt I am lost. If that is your feelings as well, I want to thank you for your concern. I take consultation in one scripture. John 17:3
And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. The passage above denotes the things we need things we need to do to gain everlasting life. To take knowledge of Jehovah and Jesus. No where in the passage does it speak of three. Nor does it require me to take in knowledge of a trinity. Thanks for you loving concern.
Refer to 1st JOHN 5:6-8
@Simply Scripture 1 john 5:6 This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth. 7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
Google this, this passage was not in the original text. Some one added it. Note when Jesus make this statement he was the embodiment of the Word and he also housed the Holy Spirit. Read John 20:17 Master. 17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.
the word trinity is not in the holy words proverbs 30:5,6 all who accept the trinity will and have denied the God of Jesus
Jesus is not God. Jesus is the King of the Jews. The Teaching of the "Trinity God" is man made.
@@Tessinentdecken amen the trinity is a teaching of humans a teaching of the apostasy that paul spoke about. Jesus is indeed the king of the jews these jews being those who are jews by the spirit not the flesh
Excellent video!!!!!!!! Well done!!!!
Jesus is not God. Jesus is the King of the Jews. The Teaching of the "Trinity God" is man made.
To even question "the Trinity" is like lighting a fuse. Someone's bound to explode with anger and accusations like "cult" and "heretic." But being mortal as we are, we don't "get" what it's like to be spirit and are poorly qualified to explain spiritual things. However: in scripture we can we can find plenty of evidence *against* a trinity.
▬ Most New Testament letters begin with greetings such as "Grace be unto you, and peace, from God our Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ." All these greetings *_include both God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ._*
But *_none of them includes the holy spirit._* Not one of them mentions or includes or addresses the holy spirit as a person.
Can we be open-minded enough to consider this as evidence that the apostles - the writers of these letters - did *not* believe the holy spirit was a third person?
▬ John 14:23 shines much-needed light on the topic. Here Jesus explains that both He and the Father would come and dwell in us. *They - the two - would make their "abode" in us:*
⚫ "Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him." (John 14:23)
Jesus said He and the Father would dwell in is. Obviously that's two, not three.
⚫ "But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him." (1 Cor 8:6)
Again, it's two: the Father and the Lord Jesus.
[It's interesting to note the similarity between this verse, and others which show creation of all things was directed (re: "of whom") by the Father . . . and was executed (re: "by whom") -by or through Jesus. Compare to Eph 3:9, Hebrews 1:1,2 and Col 1:16; only the Father and Jesus are in these verses as well.
"And we by him"??? Creation is *still* in process by or through Jesus. Through Jesus sons and daughters for the Fathers eternal family are being created, right now, as they abide in Him.]
The two - the Father and Jesus - function as one. Jesus said:
⚫ "I and my Father are one." (John 10:30) Again, that's two -"I and my Father" . . . no mention of a third person.
"God is a spirit" (John 4:24) and is holy. When we have the holy spirit in us, we have God the Father and Jesus dwelling in us -just as Jesus said in John 14:23: " . . . and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him."
Now notice Romans 8:9: the "Spirit of God" and the "Spirit of Christ" both dwell in us (not some sort of third/other person):
⚫ "But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his"
▬ We see God as "us" back in Genesis:
⚫ "And God said, Let *us* make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth." (Gen 1:26)
Who are the "us"? The Father and Jesus, as we saw earlier in 1 Cor 8:6 where creation was directed by the Father and executed by Jesus. Here are additional examples:
⚫ "God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;" (Hebrews 1:1,2)
⚫ "And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ" (Eph 3:9).
▬ Who are the "us"? It is the Father, and the "Word" who was *with* God from the beginning . . . And *was* God . . . and *was made flesh:* Jesus.
⚫ "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
The same was in the beginning with God.
All things were made by him [just like the "by him" we saw back in 1 Cor 8:6] and without him was not any thing made that was made." (John 1:1-3)
⚫ "And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth." (John 1:14)
Here's another example of "us" in Genesis:
⚫ "And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of *us,* to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:" (Gen 3:22).
▬ Although the Father and Jesus are "one," they seemingly can have separate identity or person:
⚫ "And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was." (John 17:5)
What about the favorite trinitarian verses?
▬ 1 John 5:7-8 has questionable origin. Look up the "Johannine Comma" ("comma" referring to the phrase in 1 John 5:7,8) to get the detail on that. 1 John 5:7-8 is apparently not found in the majority of early Greek texts, but appears in later Latin texts . . . causing great controversy back in the early 1500s.
▬ Matthew 28:19 is also questionable:
⚫ "Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost"
Why is it questionable? Because what the apostles actually *did* was baptize *in Jesus' name only:*
⚫ "Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost." (Acts 2:38)
⚫ "(For as yet he was fallen upon none of them: only they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.)" (Acts 8:16)
⚫ "And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days." (Acts 10:48)
⚫ "When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus." (Acts 19:5)
⚫ "Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?" (Romans 6:3)
Refer to 1st JOHN 5:6-8
Good video. Thank God.
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The (Trinitarians) shall die in their sins.
The (Trinity) is not only a vain, idle, perverse, corrupt, word of confusion and the word is not only not found in the book of the LORD'S holy scriptures, but the doctrine of the (Trinity) is also a lie, a doctrine of devils and damnable heresy.
Ephesians 5:6 Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience.
2Peters 2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.
3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.
Jesus is the only wise God and Saviour, the blessed and only Potentate, the Almighty and he is known by many names. God is a Spirit, a Holy Spirit and when he was manifested in the flesh he was known as the Son of God and the Son of man.
The (he) that was manifested to take away our sins in 1John 3:5 is the (Father) in 1John 3 line 1:
1John 3:1 Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.
2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.
3 And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.
4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
Jesus is the Father, the everlasting Father, the Almighty:
John 14:8 Philip saith unto him, Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth us.
9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?
Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
1John 2:23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.
Genesis 17:1 And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, the LORD appeared to Abram, and said unto him, I am the Almighty God; walk before me, and be thou perfect.
John 8:56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad.
57 Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham?
58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
Exodus 3:13 And Moses said unto God, Behold, when I come unto the children of Israel, and shall say unto them, The God of your fathers hath sent me unto you; and they shall say to me, What is his name? what shall I say unto them?
14 And God said unto Moses, I Am That I Am: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I Am hath sent me unto you.
Revelation 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.
8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.
1Timothy 6:14 That thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ:
15 Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;
16 Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.
John 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.
25 Then said they unto him, Who art thou? And Jesus saith unto them, Even the same that I said unto you from the beginning.
26 I have many things to say and to judge of you: but he that sent me is true; and I speak to the world those things which I have heard of him.
27 They understood not that he spake to them of the Father.
You have altered understanding of John 1:1. Jesus gave John this revelation 60 some years after his ascension to heaven. The word "Word" is not a name, it is a title.
Question 1:If was God; Who or What is he now?
Question 2: Why did Jesus not mention the third person of the trinity?
Question 3: Why didn't Jesus just is God instead of was?
Question 4: Remember Jesus was anoited with Holy Spirit, by your understanding he is now 2/3 of the Godhead.
Question 5: Why did the Apostle have to wait for the Holy Spirit?
Question 6: Why was Jesus stated sitting to the right hand of God?
Question 7: If Jesus is God why does he have wait for all things to be place under him? If Jesus is God, all things are already in subjection to him.
The Bible specifically says that only the Father is God.
So, where in the Bible says specifically that there is a trinity?
Jesus is not God. Jesus is the King of the Jews. The Teaching of the "Trinity God" is man made.
Jesus said
Go baptize
In the name of the
Father
And of the
Son
And of the
Holy Spirit.
Name is singular
Three names is TRINITY.
@@PInk77W1 Whereas the word "name" is singular, nowhere in the Scriptures say that all three are one.
Besides, nowhere says that Jesus is God. He is the Son of God, but not God the son.
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No where in scripture does it say it has to be in scripture. You start from a false notion and u go
Wrong from there.
@@guate4 Son of God ?
I’m human
If I have a son
is he a dog ?
Is he a bird ?
Is he a human ?
So helpful!
Jesus is not God. Jesus is the King of the Jews. The Teaching of the "Trinity God" is man made.
Read Philo’s Trinity and you will see where this heresy of a doctrine was truly first from philosophical and Hell bound teaching turn from it while you still have a chance is the name of the Lord Jesus Christ.🔥📖
Sadly, the so-called ‘Trinity: God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit’ is a false doctrine, and whomsoever believe in such is revering Satan, the ‘god the holy spirit,’ thus stripping God and His Son of worship. According to the Scriptures the Father and the Son ALONE should be worshipped.
In 1 Corinthians 8:6 we read, I quote,
"But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him."
Apostle Paul made it very clear that "but to us there is but one God, the Father" and "one Lord Jesus Christ." If the ONE GOD would consist of three Divine and Co-eternal Beings, as many believe, then, he would have said "but to us there is but one God: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit" but he did not say that. But, if for arguments sake, the Triune God is true, then, in this verse we would end up with to Christs as the ONE GOD would include the God the Son and with another one Lord Jesus Christ, but it is not so! If this piece of Scripture does not open our spiritual eyes, then, believe me, nothing would.
It is also interesting that in the New Testament we find ONLY two Divine Beings, the Father and the Son. Nowhere do we find in the Scriptures the term: God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. The Scriptures, however, clearly and plainly reveal to us TWO Divine Beings and not THREE. They also clearly and plainly reveal to us the Holy Spirit as being the Spirit of God and of the Son. For example, Jesus told His disciples He is the Comforter. (John 14:16-18) In verse 18 Jesus called the "Comforter" the "Spirit of Truth" and the "Spirit of Truth" is none other than Jesus Christ Himself! (John 14:6)
Another example, is John 10:30 where Jesus said, I quote, "I and my Father are one." But this verse does not say, "I and the Father, and the Holy Spirit are one." Similarly, in the book of Revelation we find only TWO Divine Beings sitting on the throne, but no where do we find the Holy Spirit as a separate being to the Father and to the Son.
We have to be very careful not to take the Scripture out of context since it interprets itself and, as I already mentioned, throughout the whole Scripture the Holy Spirit is referred to as the Spirit of God and of Christ.
Your assertions are refuted by Scriptural quotes expained in context as pointed out in the video. Did you listen through to the end? You're right that "we have to be very careful not to take the Scripture out of context". Unfortunately, you've ignored your own advice.
16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.” (John 14:16-18)
In John 14:16-18 we read that the Comforter is Jesus Christ Himself (v. 17,) called ‘even the Spirit of truth.’ Jesus said,
“…I am the way, THE TRUTH, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.” (John 14:6, emphasis supplied.)
So, if He is ‘the truth,’ then, I believe, it would be fair to say that He is the ‘Spirit of Truth.’
In v. 18 Jesus went even further by telling His disciples that, ‘I WILL NOT LEAVE YOU COMFORTLESS: I WILL COME TO YOU.’ (Emphasis supplied.)
In John 10:30 Jesus said,
‘I and my Father are one.’
He did not say, ‘I and my Father, and the Holy Spirit are one.’
In 1 John 2:1 the apostle clearly tells us who our Comforter is, I quote,
“My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:”
I am sure you know that both in John 14:16 and 1 John 2:1 the Greek word ‘paraklete’ (‘parakletos’ in John 14:16, and ‘parakleton’ in 1 John 2:1,) is used which means the same. So, according to 1 John 2:1, the Comforter in John 14:16 is ‘Jesus Christ the righteous.’
Despite of all the efforts Trinitarians make, there is not a single piece of Scripture which supports such a doctrine. To the contrary, the Scriptures clearly and plainly speak of the Father and the Son, and not God the Son, as many interpret it.
Also, I found nowhere in the Scriptures the term: God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit, as the Scriptures always refers to the Holy Spirit as the Spirit of God and of Christ. Throughout the New Testament (or the whole Scripture) the writers refer to two distinct Divine Beings, the Father and the Son. For example, in the Book of Revelation are only two beings sitting on the throne, the Father and the Lamb, Jesus Christ.
If the Holy Spirit is a separate being from the Father and the Son, how is it that it is nowhere in the Scriptures mentioned as such? Or, could it be that the ‘god the holy spirit’ is none other than Satan himself who, through a false doctrine, is seeking worship which belongs to the Father and the Son ALONE? I believe the latter to be true.
(All Scriptures are quoted from the King’s James version.)
Also, for example in 1 Corinthians 8:6 we read, I quote, "But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him." Apostle Paul made it very clear that "but to us there is but one God, the Father" and "one Lord Jesus Christ." If the ONE GOD would consist of three Divine and Co-eternal Beings, then, he would have said "but to us there is but one God: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit" but he did not say that. But, if for arguments sake, the Triune God is true, then, in this verse we would end up with to Christs as the ONE GOD would include the God the Son and with another one Lord Jesus Christ.
@Jim Euan The Holy Spirit IS the Father's AND the Son's Spirit (Gal. 4:6).
You said, 'The Son is the Father's body', please could you support it with the Scripture?
Exactly The Trinity doctrine belongs to Satan it is The Beast, The Dragon & the false prophet. Don't be conformed to the world. This doctrine is of the world, not God of the Bible.
Romans 8 : 34 "Who shall impeach the elect of God? It is God who acquits. Who is he who condemns? It is Jesus Christ who died, nay rather, who was raised from the dead, and who is at the right hand of God, who also intercedes for us." God intercedes with himself and sits at his right hand. Come on guys get real I am astonished at trinitarians lack of logic.Psalm 58 : 3 “Even from birth the wicked go astray ; from the womb they are wayward and speak lies. Their venom is like the venom of a snake, like that of a cobra that has stopped its ears, that will not heed the tune of the charmer, however skillful the enchanter may be.” satan will not listen he knows everything so are his children.
The easiest way to defend the trinity is to compare it with what the Bible says about God. If the two agree 100%, then that should confirm that the trinity is based squarely on Scripture. But is that the case? Well, judge for yourself:
1a. THE BIBLE says the Father-a single person-is the “only true God.” (John 17:3).
1b. THE TRINITY DOCTRINE says that “every Person [of the trinity] BY HIMSELF [is] God.” That’s THREE GODS!
2a. THE BIBLE says that “for us there is one God, the Father." (1 Cor. 8:6)
2b. THE TRINITY DOCTRINE says “we worship one God IN TRINITY.”
3a. THE BIBLE says the “Father is greater…” (John 14:28)
3b. THE TRINITY DOCTRINE says: “In this trinity, NONE is greater…”
4a. THE BIBLE says Jesus is the Son of God. (John 20:31)
4b. THE TRINITY DOCTRINE says “Jesus IS God,” which makes him a different God from the “one God in trinity."
5a. THE BIBLE says the “Father is greater…” (John 14:28)
5b. THE TRINITY DOCTRINE say that “the whole three persons [of the trinity] are “co-equal.”
6a. THE BIBLE says the holy spirit is not God, but a possession of God and that he gives it to deserving ones. As 1 Thess. 4:8 says: “Therefore, whoever disregards this, disregards not a human being but God, who (also) gives HIS holy Spirit to you.”
6b. THE TRINITY DOCTRINE says that “the holy spirit IS God.” However, A Catholic Dictionary says: “On the whole, the New Testament, like the Old, speaks of the spirit as a divine energy or power.” It adds: “The majority of New Testament texts reveal God’s spirit as someTHING, not someONE.”
7a. THE BIBLE says that the Father is the ONLY person that “the true worshipers” (Christians) should worship. (John 4:23)
7b. THE TRINITY DOCTRINE says: “The trinity in unity is to be worshiped.”
So, do the Bible and the Catholic trinity doctrine agree on who God is? Absolutely not! As the New Catholic Encyclopedia says, the trinity “is NOT directly and immediately the Word of God.”
Jesus is not God. Jesus is the King of the Jews. The Teaching of the "Trinity God" is man made.
@@Tessinentdecken Absolutely. The "Christian" trinity is an invention of the apostate Catholic Church.
@@Tessinentdecken Basically Christians stopped worshiping the Jewish God (YHWH) a long time ago, the Trinity is based on Neoplatonism, so Christians replaced the Jewish God with the Greek God lol
@@oceanmachine1906 True Christians never stopped worshiping God, whose name is Yahweh, who is Jesus' Father. As Jesus said to his apostles: "But the hour is coming -- indeed is already here -- when true worshippers will worship the Father in spirit and truth: that is the kind of worshipper the Father seeks." (John 4:23)
Catholics don't worship the God of the Bible. Instead, they worship a mythical triune deity. As the apostate Athanasian Creed says: "We worship one God in trinity."
No Trinity exists because no "third divine Person" exists. In the Trinity doctrine in order to put a face to the Holy Spirit, even an omnipotent GOD has been INVENTED: the LORD WHO GIVES LIFE !
The alleged "Lord":
1. doesn't talk to the Father in the gospels,
2. doesn't talk the Son in the gospels,
3 He doesn't speak at all: no one ever heard ONE SINGLE WORD from him.
4 is ignored by the Bible (no "Lord who gives life" can be found)
5. is forgotten by Jesus: " My Father works now, so I work."
6. is again forgotten by Jesus : "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?"
7. is again forgotten by Jesus : "...I am going to my Father who is greater than I am."
8. is again forgotten by Jesus: " You neither know me nor my Father."
9. is again forgotten by Jesus. " I and my Father are one."
10. is again forgotten by Jesus: " On that day you will know that I am in my Father, you are in me, and I am in you."
11. Jesus crystal clearly states that God is NOT THREE BUT TWO PERSONS: "I am not ALONE because the Father is with me"
12. is again forgotten by Jesus: "...I have not yet ascended to my Father."
13. is again forgotten by Jesus: "I am not ALONE, but I and the Father who sent me are one."
14. is again forgotten by Jesus: "The Father has not left me ALONE because I always do what pleases Him."
15. You cannot pray to Him, just to the Father and to the Son: "Whatever you ask the Father in my name, he will give you.".
16. is again forgotten by Jesus, when He states that ONLY THE FATHER knows the future: "...only the Father knows"
17. is again forgotten by Jesus when He states that "God is a spirit", Jesus should say "God and the Holy Spirit are TWO Spirits".
18. is again forgotten by Jesus when He states that "no one ever saw God", what happens with the "Lord", can He be seen ?
19. the Lord is brutally ignored in the sharing of the property : "the Father had given all things into His hands "
20. allegebly the Lord cannot give you ANYTHING: "whatever you ask of the Father in my name, He will give it to you."
21. the " phantom Lord" also DOES NOT JUDGE: "The Father judges no man, but has turned over all judgment to the Son."
22 the "phantom Lord" does NOT SIT in heaven: " ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power... "
23 the "Holy angels" will be with Jesus, but not the "phantom Lord" "When the Son of man comes WITH HIS HOLY ANGELS, He shall sit upon the throne of His glory."
The "Lord" is thus only AN INVENTION! Indeed many christians still believe that the Holy Spirit is a kind of "MAGICAL DUST" falling down the sky, which gives them awesome abilities!
Well, the HOLY SPIRIT is neither a magical fluid, nor the invented "Lord": He is the FATHER WHO IS IN THE FORM OF A SPIRIT, because "God is a spirit" means "the Father is a spirit" and is called "the Holy Spirit".
In other words, Jesus has the Father who is a spirit and calls Him sometimes "Father", sometimes "Spirit"(Holy), according to circumstances, and this leads to confusion. Thus, blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is SYNONYM of blasphemy against the Father ("...but blasphemy against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven."). No one has been forgotten there: just TWO blasphemies are possible!
Jesus also directly confirms that the HOLY SPIRIT inside Him IS THE FATHER: “The words I say to you, I say not on my own but from the FATHER who DWELLS IN ME.”
In a smart way you can skip the whole difficult "Comforter paragraph" to directly see who is inside the apostles: the "Spirit of your Father", i.e. once again the Father who is a spirit: no "third God" exists.
Here ruclips.net/video/fHw7e4Xhp4w/видео.html you can find 20 verses of the gospels that don't make any sense when interpreted according to the Trinity theory and that make perfectly sense instead with a "DUALITARIAN" interpretation.
The Holy Spirit is the eternal love between
The Father and the Son. Since it is eternal it is
Divine
@@PInk77W1 The LOVE WHO BECOMES the LORD WHO GIVES LIFE !! No comment....
@@claudiozanella256 the church is the teacher.
The church teaches the Trinity
@@PInk77W1 They are just a bunch of....The result of their incompetence, cowardy, indifference is that Christianity is now in a full state of collapse in the western countries, about 1 per cent go to mass. The pope hasn't the faintest idea of what Christianity is, neither traditional, nor "modern". How Vigano can be so stupid to campaign against vaccines instead of dealing with other topics also I really cannot figure out. All that is incredible.
@@claudiozanella256 the church has been messed up since day one.
Peter was a coward
Judas was hand picked by Jesus
King David was a murderer
Paul wanted Christians dead.
The two brother apostles wanted to be
Jesus besties.
11 fled the cross when Jesus was kllld.
So your interpretation is off, again. As per usual.
We have had many bad popes. In fact all 266 were sinners. You have missed everything
The Trinity is illogical, irrational & absurd. Jesus preached that God is only ONE, not 3. The 10 Commandments of #1 says to pray to ONE God and #2 no graven images. The word "trinity" is not even found in the Bible. It was officiated in 325 AD Nicean Council & formulated in 381 AD by a Bishop. The Jews & Muslims worship to only ONE God.
Why because you do not have the capacity to understand it?
ABSOLUTELY...The Trinity belongs to Satan it is The Beast, The Dragon & the false prophet. Don't be conformed to the world. This doctrine is of the world, not God.
Jesse said of the Father
“EVERYTHING you have is MINE”
Jn 17
@Sir Reginald the CHURCH noticed it thousands of years before u
Ay gallo religion
Jesus Christ is the Father
It naturally means G-d is one person with 3 personality ..
So its true ..they G-d died !! ..
If jesus died then G-d died !! ..
Bcoz both are same G-d !!
But Tanak said ..
There is only one G-d ..
Adonai Alohenu Adonai hano ekhad
( Lord G-d is one & He is lord ) !!
Jesus said to the Father
“EVERYTHING you have is MINE”
Jn 17