Is The Edward L. Ryerson Returning To Service?
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- Опубликовано: 18 сен 2024
- The Edward L. Ryerson is one of the most if not the most beloved freighter to sail the Great Lakes. But now speculation over the vessel's return is the talk of boatnerds, so is the vessel really returning to service? What might that mean and look like? And is there a sure answer?
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I got word that she might be coming back, and I talked with an employee at Fraser, and they said they did boiler tests on her, and she works great!
That's Good news!
If I didn't live in Texas I would apply for the old Steamer
Thank you for hope that she sail again. I first saw her in August of 2006 on St. Clair River off Port Huron with my 5 year old Son. Hearing that Ryerson horn gave me Goose bumps. And that crowd hurrying under the Blue water Bridge to check her out was awesome! God I hope she sails again. Thanks Connor!💪🏿
@@benjamingaines6472 Your welcome!
Could make more money as a steam transport for passenger and square hold to rooms say for restaurants and stuff but I don’t know I am not an engineer at the very least she might be museumed
One of the most beautiful ships on the Lakes…
For sure
She is pretty.
The Ryerson is such an eye-catching ship with her futuristic looks and chrome accents. Seeing her active again would be a dream!
It would be great to see her run again! Definitely a beautiful ship
She really has a “striking” forward look. Being built in the late 50’s i cant help but think about the machinery in the time period, i think the futuristic space-race aesthetic played a big role in the design.. even though I cant find any info to document that. 😁 shes streamlined!
I certainly hope Fast Eddie makes a return. Easily the prettiest working ship on the Great Lakes ever... and IMO the best horn of any Laker period. Plus, if she's going to do runs to Hamilton, I'll be able to go see her again with my own eyes.
I hope so too. I would love to see her sail and hear her horn. I wish the new freighters looked good like that, but most of them are just cookiecutter ships.
@@ConnorTenold its so true and so sad
I worked for Fraser from "74 to 10". From what the old timers told me, the Ryerson was never converted to self unloader because Mrs. Ryerson objected. Apparently she said it would ruin the look of the ship. It is a beautiful ship. But it was also the reason it has been laid up so much. A little trivia. It's the only ship I know of with an actual bathtub in the Capt.s quarters and also guest quarters.
Kinda funny if that objection to the conversion is true. Is truly a beautiful vessel.
Question-What was it like working at Fraser?
Everyone in Duluth says Ryerson was not converted because her cargo holds and deck are the wrong shape… but I’m not sure how that compares to others that have ultimately been converted.
J.L. Mauthe for example was taken out of service because she was a straight decker and couldn’t easily be converted due to a difference in design, but was somehow converted to the self unloading barge Pathfinder? Maybe her stern had to be removed in order for it to work.
Regardless I can provide some evidence that the Ryerson is indeed being worked on. Noticed her AIS come on this winter, and some steam being put out of a trailer on deck, and from the stern thruster area. From the Blatnik Bridge you can see tubing going into her engine room. Her deck and mast lights became functional some time in February
An addendum to your trivia: The William A. Irvin has three bathtubs, located in the captain's quarters and two of the four guest cabins.
The USS IOWA BB61 also had a bathtub.
Algoma transport has a bathtub on captains deck as well.
They ran a boiler test and engine room test last year and it came good. There’s a fair chance she may come back. I’m very excited to see some news.
That's good
Good video! I definitely have some hope too. For the steam turbine issue, CML's Wilfred Sykes currently has a steam engine with no publicly known plans to change that, so i could see it sticking around for a while. Other than that best video on the status of the Ryerson.
Well thank you!
Arthur M Anderson and Alpena are also steam turbine powered
@@andre-rg9rp so is Clarke and callaway
@@andre-rg9rp Alpena yes, Anderson no unfortunately...
Great video !!! (Not getting too detailed but I may know a few people with a close connection/she 90% coming back don’t know when but the contract to Hamilton is set up) 🎉
Thanks! Thats great news!
@@ConnorTenoldNot so good news anymore, I heard that the Hamilton contract sorta fell through. I think they might try again next spring. 🤷🏼♂️
Nicely done. Very informative. Hoping it comes back!
Thanks mom!
Good job, Connor! I really like this channel. I almost always learn something new when you post a video. Thanks, dude! Lol. Daddy is right to be proud of his son!
Thanks again!
I am admitting my age, but I saw her launched in Manitowoc in January, 1960. I was in 3rd grade, and all the schools in Manitowoc closed for the day to see her hit the water. Later that summer in 1960, when she was finished, she tied up at the old cheese dock in Manitowoc for an open house. I went aboard, and she was beautiful then, and still is 63 years later!
Wow! That is honestly really cool! Must have been quite an experience.
Hello, Connor, it was. My grandfather was a riveter at Manitowoc Shipbuilding for 44years, from 1915-1959. He retired when the RYERSON was on the ways. But, he riveted on almost all the vessels that needed repairs, and instilled in me a love for the Great Lakes and the boats. A side note: he drove rivets on every one of the 28 submarines built in Manitowoc during WW II, his contribution to the war effort!
@@jamesnelson6980 There really is something about freighters on the lakes.
But on the topic of your Grandfather, driving rivets in every one-thats pretty impressive. Also considering that it was for the war effort is super cool too. Question: If he started from 1915 did he have any part in riveting anything for the first world war?
Yes, he did. Grandpa and I were very close, and he showed me all the work tickets he filled out on every vessel he drove rivets on. He had boxes of them, and the one I remember was an ocean going "Laker" class built in Manitowoc in 1918. Her name was COQUINA. Ironically, COQUINA was the first American flagged merchantman torpedoed by the Japanese in WW II, on Dec.7 th, 1941, Pearl Harbor day.
@@jamesnelson6980 Cool!
Thanks for the time you spent putting this together
The cement hauler Aplena is a WW2 era bulk freighter that still operates under steam. If that ship can run the inland seas to this day at 80, I’m not surprised if the Ryerson would be reasonably profitable and successful despite being a straight decker. With the lack of space in her hold to accommodate a self unloading system, I imagine she can haul more than other freighters larger than her considering her size and vintage.
Fast Eddie l love that name lol 20 miles per hour is Amazing 😊 She is a beautiful and unique ship. Keep up the great informative videos.
Thank you! Sometimes the most unique things can be the most beautiful
Great job Connor! Daddy is proud of you!
Thanks dad!
😅😅😅😂😂
As long as it’s not caught in a November storm and splits in half like the other 4 ships of the same design
The Ryerson was a one off. Nothing like her split in 2
Fabulous horn!!! Thanx Connor!! I'm very cautiously optimistic!!! That's fantastic news!
Your Welcome!
She is absolutely beautiful! I do hope she returns service.
Me too!
If this video had a drinking game where everyone had to take a shot everytime the narrator said “return to service” we would all be alcoholics.
Lol
I got to see her in person last year. a very impressive vessel.
I haven't gotten to see her up close but I might be able to soon with the way its looking.
She is the most beautiful ship!!
For sure!
I wish a lot more people realize why we should keep these ships
Me too.
@@ConnorTenold they have so mush history
From 1800 hundreds to 2000 the hold ships have retried
@@ConnorTenold can you make a video following up about the Ojibway and if she has been sold for scraps
@@Great_Lakes Thats how the great lakes business works. The companies do what is best for them and their customers. They don't give a single shit what random armchair nerds on the internet think.
This the great news we all wanted, great vid
Best looking laker I've seen...sleek
My favorite of them all
Seeing this beautiful, stylish, big boat at the dock for years, going over the bridge, I had always wondered if or when it would be ready to sail again.
See I grew up boating, cabin cruisers, speed boats, yacht clubs and all -
and I had a plan for a webcast, wont say the name, yet if it succeeded on bringing in big money - 'the plan was to buy a boat like this, build a 200 foot long wooden dance floor on the top - with a stage for live shows too, anchor it out where we would have privacy (not piracy) and people could come to the dances by launch.
Oh if all this plan had not been crushed, by corporate "gang stalking"
wjat a wonder full boat it could be.
She's such a beautiful, elegant spectacular beast
Would be great to see her back
Edward L. Ryerson (As Mushu): I LIVE!!!!!
she was known as "The Queen"; I made some repairs @50 yr ago. Back then company execs (Sups only or higher) took Summer cruises with families
Interesting.
What was it like repairing it?
Awesome
It would be GREAT!..to see Fast Eddie back out there! Love the old fore pilot house boats!!
With a rising iron ore economy currently, she very well could. She'd likely do runs from Superior to Hamilton and to Quebec City. I hope it does, and I think it does have a chance.
Time will tell....
i dont think shel run to quebec but who knows
@@battledragongun she did it a bunch in 2007 and 2008
I sailed on the Ryerson, L.E. Block and Clarence B. Randall between June 1971 and late January 1974. I was mainly on the deck but worked in the L.E.'s galley, too, and the Ryerson's deck and engine room, before my enrollment into U of Wisconsin, Madison to persue degrees in Economics. I have many fond and harrowing memories, in clouding pool games in Indiana Harbor with crewmen serving on the Edmund Fitzgerald, a "Class Mate" of the Ryerson...
That's cool! What are some other memories you have on the ships?
Would love to see the Ryerson back in the game! Prettiest boat out there! Sounds like she's in better shape than the Irvin L. Clymer and the Harry Coulby were after sitting forever in the Fraser frog pond. Definitely a good sign!
For sure a good sign!
My uncle was the captain of that ship from the beginning tell he had died
I hope to see the Ryerson back on the lakes. She's a beautiful ship.
Really is a beauty
I am hoping the Ryerson has many years of sailing ahead she's one of the most beautiful ships between the Blough and Alpena and Anderson in my opinion. I always let time tell us the outcome when it comes to these things because things are constantly changing.
Well, if they are willing to spend the money, perhaps a mounting a self unloading system along with diesel propulsion could be the answer, saving some operating costs which could offset the lost tonnage. The vessel would then be more qualified to ship and unload at a greater number of ports.
Saw a comment about the Edmund Fitzgerald because …of course there would be…. That said, I just find this to be a fascinating bit of history; The Herbert C Jackson looks like the Fitzgerald minus the paint scheme ….because she, the Jackson, is hull 302. The Fitzgerald was/is hull 301. Both from Great Lakes Engineering Works- GLEW. Fitzgerald’s “true-r” sister, the Arthur B Homer, was GLEW hull 303…but she was scrapped. Thus leaving us the Jackson today. The hull just prior to the Fitz from GLEW was The William Clay Ford, hull 300. She looked striking like the Fitz minus details- paint, Ford symbol (she hauled for Ford motor company). The William Clay Ford though not as famous as the Arthur M Anderson really deservedly should be as famous - or nearly so- as the William Clay Ford pulled up anchor and left safe port to search for the Fitz. The William Clay Ford was scrapped. Her Pilot house is now at the Dossin museum in or very near Detroit
I looked at that ship constantly while on break. Wish i had seen it running when they moved it.
That is one neat looking ship.
Really is....
I last saw her in the soo in 1997.
She should return to service and be converted to a Classic Freighter Passenger ship. The demand would be strong to ride her around the Great Lakes. There could be several ports to visit on three or four routes. Chicago - Mackinaw Is -Sault Ste Marie - Alpena or Port Huron - Detroit - Cleveland - Toronto for the major city Great Lakes Route for a start. Another second for the Eastern Great Lakes (Lake Erie -Cedar Pt or Pelee Is- ) Cleveland - Lake Ontario -Toronto - Buffalo - St Lawrence Seaway route). A third for the Western Great Lakes Route (Chicago - Milwaukee - Traverse City - Duluth). There are many and a variety places to visit and a variety of routes/trips possible…especially Summer into Autumn!
Ignore the lines thru some places ^^ above ^^ don’t know why it came up ( maybe the dashes were too close).
It will never happen. It would be a massive waste of money and I doubt the Coast Guard would sign off.
@@LokiOdinson-fz8ps sitting unused is THE waste of money. And what is your brilliant idea?
I don't have my contacts in so I read this as the Edmund Fitzgerald. Then I heard Gordon Lightfoot in my head, even though he didn't tell me that he was coming over.
Barf
Have seen a vid of the Ryerson during a storm on a demo BNVN. Nice to see her while in service. Is the current political climate concerning steel production a co tribut
A decrease in steel production a factor in her return to service?
I would call it the nedward ryerson, after the guy in groundhog day lol
Interesting the vast difference in style between two ships built only months apart, the other being the Fitzgerald, one could almost say they could have been a decade apart.
Ryerson seems more smooth and sleek in design.
Ned...Ryerson. Needle-nosed Ned. Ned the Head. I dated your sister Mary-Pat until you told me not to. Ned!
Hate to say it but they probably getting it ready for a one way trip to the scrapper. It's technology is old and the cost to re engine it would be enormous.
We'll see.....
With several self unloaders laid up already I really don't see why anyone thinks someone is going to waste money converting a one off straight decker.
@@ConnorTenoldNo "will see" about it. Straight deckers are pretty much a thing of the past. A lot of the ports are not taking straight deckers. The few that are compatible with SDs won't bring in nearly enough to even turn a profit on the ship. The sentimental value might be there but the profitability isn't .
To bad she didn't go back into service, the ore market she carries fell through again. The should make her into a museum ship that way they don't have to worry about giving her a self unloader and worry about changing things out that would need to be changed.
Personally, I hope that they bring her back with a self unloading boom. It would give her a longer life
SHP is shaft horsepower
Is retrofitting a self unloader a economical option? Seems like that is the biggest setback behind the steam engine
theoretically they could still do that one day a vessel that has a self unloader but simmilar cargo hold style is the mark w barker which is also the newest but it would all depend on weather or not they want to put a self unloader on her at all
A self unloader isn't really feasible, at least with the current cargo hold set up. It would significantly reduce the cargo capacity.
I heard they did boiler tests. She almost works like new!
That's great news!
@@ConnorTenold It sure is!
She won't be "fast Eddy" anymore when she comes back, unfortunately. They're giving her the Sykes treatment and having several of her nozzles disconnected in the name of fuel economy. She'll run from Duluth/Superior to Hamilton, just waiting on the contract to be signed so they can get the rest of the money to put her in drydock. Then its a matter of finding a crew...
That's unfortunate.....
Anything new to add to this now that work has stopped?
@@justinolsen9284probably didn't have real information in the first place. Just another keyboard commando running off at the mouth and everyone falling for it hook line and sinker.
@@LokiOdinson-fz8ps These are actually somewhat true. Take a look at this document. They are just awaiting for federal bureaucracy to get out of the way. www.dco.uscg.mil/Portals/9/DCO%20Documents/NVDC/EDWARD%20L.%20RYERSON%2004-10-2023.pdf?ver=xuG7utM_ziHypiydisZYQw%3D%3D
Or they could put a more efficient steam system into the vessel. Steam is very efficient in comparison to most other power systems
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What is i-ron?😅
In a google earth image from 8/10/22 the Ryerson was not moored at the location in Superior shown in the video. Also, in the same image, it was not at the Frazer Shipyards. So where was it?
It was along a dock very near Fraser.
It is in Fraser right now
The ryerson was moved in January of 2023 from the spot shown on google earth.
🤞🙏💪
Is this ship more beloved than the immortal Arthur M. Anderson?
I don’t really think one is more beloved than the other. They are beloved for different reasons, the Arthur M. Anderson is because of its relation to the Fitzgerald, the Edward L. Ryerson is because of its looks.
@@ConnorTenold Thank you for replying!
@@yourroyalhighness7662 You bet, anytime!
@@ConnorTenold I'm new to the Boat Nerd community. I reside in North Carolina and love the videos and nce folks I meet on RUclips.
I had never heard of "Fast Eddie" until the algorithm sent me your video this morning.
My two favorite ships are the Arthur M Anderson for obvious reasons and the 1,004 ft James R Barker becsuse of her fabulous 70 second Master Salute. Hearing it sends me to a happy place.
I look forward to future videos by yourself. Stay safe!
@@yourroyalhighness7662 Well welcome to the community then!
Just a side note-If you are interested I have a video on my channel of both the Arthur M. Anderson and James R. Barker in Duluth, MN. I will say though, hearing the horn of the Barker in real life is truly a great experience. If you ever get the chance, Duluth, MN is a great place to see ships and most all of them that come in or out will salute. Also the James R. Barker makes frequent trips to Duluth.
Dean Fraiser at KLMS confirmed.
I've heard that th ship can hit better than 22 mph, downhill. :D
lol
Keep in mind, BECAUSE she's been laid up so much, that means her engine is probably in really good shape. One of the biggest reasons for conversions isn't just fuel costs. In many cases it is a factor, but not THE factor.
Usually it's just a case of fixing the damn engine in the first place. Parts run out, and it was just too expensive to justify fixing the engine anymore on many ships. With the engines probably working well, she's probably fine for a good while.
Also, one way or I can almost guarantee they're going to TRY to get her operational. What that looks like is up in the air. Steel prices have been high for years, and this is a ship that is in excellent shape just sitting around. Literally no reason at this point no to try.
True
B.S. high operating costs and low carting capacity oh and the big one . No way to unload a straight decker.
@@LokiOdinson-fz8ps Low as compared to what? Her listed carrying capacity is around 27,000 Tons which is easily in the neighborhood of her contemporaries that are still in operation under diesel now. We also don't know that they'll keep her straight decker. Even then there are still a few places that could handle a straight deck ship. Also the fuel cost doesn't necessarily mean they won't try to get the ship operational. The Alpena is still operational as a steamship, to the point where her owners kept her that way even after a major fire. Finally, it's a perfectly good ship that's just been SITTING there. One way or another they're going to do something with it. Either it's being put back into operation (albeit not necessarily as a straight decker or steam), or it's going to get scrapped. Companies don't like to sit on assets like this.
@@LokiOdinson-fz8psthey can unload in Canada as they did the last time it was out
It looks like the Fitz
nah bro
Not even close
The Herbert C Jackson does minus the paint scheme ….because she is hull 302. The Fitzgerald was/is hull 301. Both from Great Lakes Engineering Works- GLEW. Fitzgerald’s “true-r” sister Arthur B Homer, was hull 303…but she was scrapped. Thus leaving us the Jackson. The hull just prior to the Fitz from GLEW was The William Clay Ford, hull 300. She looked striking like the Fitz minus details- paint, Ford symbol (she hauled for Ford motor company). The William Clay Ford though not as famous as the Arthur M Anderson really deservedly should be as famous - or nearly so- as the William Clay Ford pulled up anchor and left safe port to search for the Fitz….
Ed? Ed Ryerson?
Shea gonna come back to service with no unloader?
Sounds like it
Kill 2 birds with one stone add a mid body section and add a self unloader $$$$$$$
Then she wouldn't be able to run to Hamilton because she'd be too big to fit in the Welland Canal.
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