Throw that SunSun Canister in the TRASH?!

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  • Опубликовано: 25 май 2017
  • #sunsun
    #sunsuncanisterfilter
    Are you about to toss your SunSun canister in the trash? You better watch this first!
    Some folks like to complain about SunSun canister filters. Are they right? Here I share my experience with my SunSun 704B. Check it out and don't give up on your SunSun canister until after you've watched this video!
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  • @BenOchart
    @BenOchart  4 года назад +1

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  • @cichlid.addict4257
    @cichlid.addict4257 7 лет назад +26

    Now that's what I call high value content! Thank you Ben for all those precious tips. Most vids, even from notorious channels, don't really bring anything. This is very usefull👍👍👍👍

    • @BenOchart
      @BenOchart  7 лет назад +3

      Thank you so much for the kind words! Much appreciated.

  • @WallabyDan
    @WallabyDan 4 года назад +4

    Ben, I took your sharing to heart. Went and bought a Sunsun 404B on line and its working great. This last week i didn't hardly see anything in the gravel at all. First time i opened it up after start up. So far a great filter. Thanks for the insight, Dan Martin

  • @oxidize99
    @oxidize99 4 года назад

    Thank you for taking the time to make this video. Very helpful in reducing noise.

  • @pondguru
    @pondguru 7 лет назад +43

    I think the SunSun are sold over here by All Pond Solutions as they look identical - very cheap but reliable filter and thousands of people use them over here. May be 'Aquatop' in other countries and likely come from the same factory in China.
    Ultimately the way a canister filter is set up and the quality of the media will be the deciding factors in how healthy the water is, not how much the filter initially cost.
    With any filters you can do a search for "(insert filter name) problems" and a huge list of results will come up for any filter, even the Eheims and noise issues are often easily solved as you usefully explained.
    Good video, man.

    • @BenOchart
      @BenOchart  7 лет назад +3

      Thank you Pondguru and yes, I believe that often the complaints that we hear are because of poor media and user error. The three SunSun's I own have run flawlessly and yes I believe that they are Aquatop (and possibly All Pond Solutions as well). All made by the same factory in China. In the U.S. some prefer the Aquatop because it is "UL Approved" but I'm not sure that means much with this product or worth the extra dollars one would pay in the U.S. for an Aquatop.

    • @sondercichlidaquariums4951
      @sondercichlidaquariums4951 6 лет назад +1

      Pondguru had 3 different all pond solutions, 2 made a racket and 2 leaked (even with new greased o rings) and the one I have atm 1400 model seems ok so far. They keep coming as part of second hand tank set ups I buy and sell. I use it alongside a fluval fx4 on my fluval Roma 240. The power of these budget canisters is greatly exaggerated also

    • @narenderchaudhary533
      @narenderchaudhary533 5 лет назад

      Agree with you completely PondGuru as all depends on the Media you put inside it

    • @Wellesly
      @Wellesly 5 лет назад

      Can I use scoria rocks as biological filter and will it affect the efficiency of the Sunsun filter?

    • @OriginalMindTrick
      @OriginalMindTrick 2 года назад

      The point is they are not reliable and tend to break, be loud and or leak. If they had no issues they would be the best thing since sliced bread but unfortunately, you get what you pay for.

  • @MrDanAng1
    @MrDanAng1 5 лет назад +1

    Thank you for this video!
    I have two different Eheim filters at the moment, bought them used and broken for the change in my pocket and bought some spares and gaskets so I have two running filters for about $100 combined.
    This video give me the confidence to go for a brand new, bigger filter for the same kind of money, that will give extra filter capacity next time I need a new filter.
    I will go for a really big tank next time I move, but until then, my Eheim filters will do the job.

  • @jpthomason
    @jpthomason 7 лет назад +1

    Thanks for taking the time. I was researching the sunsuns and watched this and it helped me go ahead and buy one for my 55.

    • @BenOchart
      @BenOchart  7 лет назад

      Set it up correctly and it will give you years of trouble-free service. Which model did you go with?

  • @modifiedridesuk
    @modifiedridesuk 4 года назад

    Great tips! I love watching your videos Ben keep up the good work! I have a sunsun302, had it for over 3 years had one new seal and one new impeller there great!

  • @rodncru1
    @rodncru1 7 лет назад +6

    Thank you for sharing. As always very informative video. I followed your advice, bought a sunsun, loving it, no regrets.

  • @vacuumnut8300
    @vacuumnut8300 5 лет назад +1

    Thank you for the video. I have a aquatop forza 7 which was making noises I had not heard before. While watching your video, I realized that during a recent filter change I had over packed it with media. Removed a good handful and it is running great. Thanks again.

    • @BenOchart
      @BenOchart  5 лет назад

      It makes me very happy when I hear of someone being helped by one of my videos. Thank you for the feedback, much appreciated.

  • @karenmeyers553
    @karenmeyers553 6 лет назад +2

    Great video Ben, I’ve been thinking about getting a sun sun to replace a hob and this vid helped a lot. Thank you 😉👍

  • @Redneckrino
    @Redneckrino 4 года назад +1

    I really love the sunun I ran it for years on my tank before I switch to salt water. Great video man 👍🏼

  • @fernandoconde9222
    @fernandoconde9222 7 лет назад +2

    I'm glad to hear this because I just bought a 704b.

    • @BenOchart
      @BenOchart  7 лет назад +2

      Good choice. I love mine, works very well.

  • @lenwyatt7853
    @lenwyatt7853 7 лет назад +3

    Great tips! I have a 304b and 505a and have been quite pleased, with the occasional need to "burp" or re-tighten the fittings on the outtake.

    • @BenOchart
      @BenOchart  7 лет назад +2

      That's been my experience too.
      Thanks for stopping by!

  • @terminalpsychosis8022
    @terminalpsychosis8022 4 года назад

    Excellent tips. Only a beginner with 20 Gal tank, but this knowledge will come in handy for any external filter.
    Thank you Mr. Ochart. Very cool channel here!

  • @kevinstafford3128
    @kevinstafford3128 6 лет назад

    Great video, earned yourself a new subscriber. I just bought 2 SunSun HW-704B filters for a new 180 tank going up and I was worried about leaking and all that. I feel a lot better about it after watching this.

  • @anthonysmalawipredators8794
    @anthonysmalawipredators8794 7 лет назад +4

    wow, tons of great info here Ben! lol the beer 😂

    • @BenOchart
      @BenOchart  7 лет назад +1

      Thank you Anthony.
      The beer was even better after the video ;)

  • @brianzambotti4510
    @brianzambotti4510 6 лет назад +3

    Great video, Ben! Appreciate your knowledge!

  • @zamora77786
    @zamora77786 6 лет назад +1

    As a first time canister filter owner (I ordered a sunsun), this video was a great. Very useful. Thank you so much.

    • @BenOchart
      @BenOchart  6 лет назад +1

      You are welcome Zamora, I'm glad that you found it helpful.

  • @sarudia
    @sarudia 3 года назад +2

    Thank you very much!!! And enjoy your beer.

  • @andyskinner7163
    @andyskinner7163 5 лет назад

    Great video Ben and advice that really can be applied to all canister filters.i,m definitely going to check out sun sun in future

  • @FishAddict1
    @FishAddict1 3 года назад +2

    The ending of the video was funny with the beer. thank you! Subscribed to you. Appreciate the information and tips

  • @JamesSarkarX
    @JamesSarkarX 6 лет назад

    superbly done Ben! loved it!

  • @maxefforts
    @maxefforts 6 лет назад +3

    This is a great review summarizing and talking about the Sunsun brand, You really pointed out a lot of the issues people have with canisters that happen. It's just normal to have issues. Some people will never have issues, some people have a lot of issues . I've seen videos of fx6 complaints, not as many but every canister or product pretty much is gonna have people complaining. But like you said you just have to troubleshoot and put the time and not be lazy. Sounds like you have a lot of experience in the hobby and knowledgeable. Great job A+ on giving a fair overall review on issues in general with the Sunsun.

    • @BenOchart
      @BenOchart  6 лет назад

      s g same here, thanks for watching

  • @RAIDERVATO44
    @RAIDERVATO44 6 лет назад +1

    Great video Ben, had my aquatop cf 500 for years never had a problem with it, still running till this day

    • @BenOchart
      @BenOchart  6 лет назад

      Jose Valladolid Thank you and yes, if you treat them right they provide years of flawless service at a very good price.

  • @ciclidosnicaragua3355
    @ciclidosnicaragua3355 7 лет назад +2

    Thanks Ben ! I use one 406 and sun sun 304b and work well for the moments. Thank for the advices....saludos

    • @BenOchart
      @BenOchart  7 лет назад +1

      Saludos mi amigo in Honduras.

  • @michael-ev5fk
    @michael-ev5fk 6 лет назад +1

    Excellent job Been! As always. Thanks

  • @jayblu8894
    @jayblu8894 7 лет назад +1

    Cant get enough of your vids man, very good advice and healthy beautiful cichlids!!!

    • @BenOchart
      @BenOchart  7 лет назад

      Thanks Jay, your support of the channel is noticed and greatly appreciated.

  • @jairorodriguez9943
    @jairorodriguez9943 7 лет назад +5

    thanks for this. I love my sun sun canister. It's great

    • @BenOchart
      @BenOchart  7 лет назад +2

      In my next video, available on Thurs 7/20/17, I'm doing a complete service on my SunSun 704-B. You might like that video.

  • @brianwilliams681
    @brianwilliams681 7 лет назад +1

    I have 2 304B on my 120. And I love em, no issues at all. Love the $$ too.

    • @BenOchart
      @BenOchart  7 лет назад

      There certainly are horror stories, but for the most part I usually hear what you said, they run great, do the job and you can't beat the price.

  • @fishdad1chadh227
    @fishdad1chadh227 7 лет назад +3

    Great video ben last week I serviced my 406B Canister and went to work came home after 12 hours and looked at the tank I saw that I lost about two gallons of water well I guess I did not have the top on right but I love my canister one other tip every six months I will I will put vaseline just A little around the rubber O ring that goes around the Head unit

    • @BenOchart
      @BenOchart  7 лет назад +1

      Great tip that will extend the life of the o ring. Thanks for watching and commenting.

  • @josephsr1101
    @josephsr1101 4 года назад +3

    I seen the video title and my heart sank I thought oh crap, I just bought my very 1st canister filter and that is what I bought, the Sun Sun 304B, glad I watched this video

    • @kimberlyd2308
      @kimberlyd2308 3 года назад +1

      Hey Joseph! I JUST ordered that same model today. It had good reviews on amazon. What do you think about it? I have a 55 gallon heavy stocked fish tank with a turtle.

    • @josephsr1101
      @josephsr1101 3 года назад

      @@kimberlyd2308 I was scared at 1st too but I absolutely love it I have it on my 120gal and it still more than enough with about 50 cichlids being kept...... Best part is I can let my sunsun go for up to 2 months without cleaning and when it comes time i just take the trays out, rinse them down, rinse the canister itself out as well, pop them back in and its good to go..... Definitely check out bends videos on proper cleaning methods and anything else SunSun though you'll be glad you bought it! happy fishing😁

  • @DELCOJAWN
    @DELCOJAWN 7 лет назад +3

    Great video Ben, agree on all points. I have an Fx6, Fx4, 2 Sunsun 304b's, and an API Filstar and have no complaints about any of them. Canister filters in general simply are not designed to be plug and play units.

    • @BenOchart
      @BenOchart  7 лет назад +1

      Damn good point. We live in a plug and play time and sometimes getting things to work right requires some thought. You should consider doing a YT video that compares each of these units, since you have first hand experience instead of just an opinion based on second hand information.
      Thank you for watching and commenting, much appreciated.

  • @paulone65
    @paulone65 7 лет назад +1

    my sunsun 304 lasted five years and then became intermittent,turning on and off. and got the new 704b and what a difference. great tips love the video

    • @BenOchart
      @BenOchart  7 лет назад

      Thank you Paul. Yes, that 704b is a beast and I'm really liking mine.
      Thanks for watching and commenting.

  • @Azlit
    @Azlit 7 лет назад

    great tips, I have two 704b on my list and this definitely made me feel better about my choice

    • @Azlit
      @Azlit 7 лет назад

      Aslo Ben, would you mind telling me the dimensions of your 135. Is it 5' or 6'

  • @a4fishsingapore305
    @a4fishsingapore305 2 года назад +1

    Great video. I use a HW 3000, 702, 603 and 602. Agree with you 100%. Using a stainless steel canister now and parito principle applies to all.

  • @efrainscichlids9038
    @efrainscichlids9038 7 лет назад +5

    great inf video Ben, I have both fx6 & the sunsun 704B, i love my fx6 but if money is an issue for some guys the sunsun is a great filter

    • @BenOchart
      @BenOchart  7 лет назад +4

      Exactly. In my mind it's not a matter of "this is better than that" discussions. It's really more a matter of finding the filter that fits your budget and can do the job.
      Also, I wanted to clear up some of the negative rumors about SunSuns. Often the complaints could have been fixed with a little patience.
      As always Efrain, thanks for watching and commenting.

  • @hungrygluttonz4134
    @hungrygluttonz4134 6 лет назад +3

    Love my SunSun. Been running for almost 3 years w/o a hitch.

    • @BenOchart
      @BenOchart  6 лет назад

      Same with mine. Thanks for watching!

    • @Bu197
      @Bu197 4 года назад

      I order 1 hw702, hope it will great

  • @forrestford7840
    @forrestford7840 6 лет назад +1

    Wow! I immensely enjoyed your video and thank you! :)

    • @BenOchart
      @BenOchart  6 лет назад

      That's great to hear Forrest. It's comments like yours that keep me at it 😀

  • @OneToothTwoFish
    @OneToothTwoFish 7 лет назад +2

    I have a 304b. It's works perfectly on my 50 gallon tank. Just got a 55 gallon was going to buy another one now going to buy two for that tank. Thank you..

    • @BenOchart
      @BenOchart  7 лет назад +1

      I love redundancy and back up. I rotate the cleaning of the two units I have on my two main tanks. Makes it less likely to shock the system and provides a back up to keep things rolling if one burns out.
      Thanks for watching!

  • @johnm4875
    @johnm4875 7 лет назад +1

    Thanks for the tips. Very Good advice. Now I got to get a beer!

    • @BenOchart
      @BenOchart  7 лет назад

      LOL, that beer was pretty tasty, even after I swirled the foam around.😀
      Thanks for stopping by watching and commenting.

  • @wantsome480
    @wantsome480 7 лет назад +1

    I understand where you're coming from. A lot of people rag on the Ehiem ECCO filters. I've had mine for years and couldn't be happier.

    • @BenOchart
      @BenOchart  7 лет назад

      There you go. If it's working for you, doing the job, then it's right for you, and in the end, that's the only person it needs to be right for, right?!

  • @bullseye_kyle4773
    @bullseye_kyle4773 4 года назад

    I just bought a 265 with the uv light.. I have it hooked up 2 a 29 gallon tank and it works great and its quite

  • @JadrenAquatics
    @JadrenAquatics 7 лет назад +1

    Thanks for the info, I'm in the process of looking for a canister so this was very helpful. New Subscriber.

    • @BenOchart
      @BenOchart  7 лет назад

      Thank you Jadren and good luck with that canister.

  • @forrestford7840
    @forrestford7840 6 лет назад

    just got my 303B for my 29g, so far so good! Slight hum but it's not in the cabinet yet. :P I love your videos!!!!

  • @mikeyrawz6087
    @mikeyrawz6087 7 лет назад +11

    never had a single issue with 304b in many years. We run 4 of them here... The problem is usually user error and not mechanical with cannisters I have found with peoples issues. Even have had generally good luck with the uv bulbs that I have on 24/7. good vid man. sure the discussion will be good in comments 🍻🦈✌️

    • @CoreyHecker
      @CoreyHecker 7 лет назад

      Aquariums by Mike I agree Mike, however I have had slight tray erosion.

    • @mikeyrawz6087
      @mikeyrawz6087 7 лет назад

      They won me over when I realized I can have 6 of them or one fx6 lol

    • @BenOchart
      @BenOchart  7 лет назад

      I agree. I use my UV on weekends.

    • @BenOchart
      @BenOchart  7 лет назад

      I'm gonna keep an eye out but I'm only using my UV on weekends, so maybe that will spare me.

    • @andrewcameron9834
      @andrewcameron9834 7 лет назад +1

      I have also had the tray erosion issue. I stopped using the uv because it seemed to happen close to the bulb

  • @ThePlantedTankTV
    @ThePlantedTankTV 6 лет назад +1

    I use a AquaTop 300 which just a re-branded SunSun and I love it!

    • @BenOchart
      @BenOchart  6 лет назад

      Essentially the same company. Love my SunSun's, especially the 704-Bs. They're beasts.

  • @48tomw
    @48tomw 7 лет назад +1

    The uvc lamps in sunsuns are primarily clarifiers and somewhat level 2 sterilization which works just fine for me so I got no complaints! My lfs instructed me to inspect all fasteners and screws and see if any are loose before setting up the filter,you'd be surprised how often those things can be loosy goosy straight out the box. Anyway Ben your service and dedication to the community is really appreciated by me and others I'm sure!! Thanks!!

    • @BenOchart
      @BenOchart  7 лет назад

      48tomw, thank you so much for the input and for the kind words of encouragement.

  • @KGcichlids
    @KGcichlids 7 лет назад

    Love it Ben! I felt like I was watching a history channel interview version of fish keeping with great info though 👍

    • @BenOchart
      @BenOchart  7 лет назад +1

      KG cichlids "Brought to you as a public service with donations from the Gates Foundation..." LOL!

  • @kevinbrislawn5918
    @kevinbrislawn5918 7 лет назад +1

    I have a great filter it's a Hydor: it's super quiet, never failed me yet in 3 years and has a strong flow. Best one I've ever owned! hooked to a 72 G. bow front

    • @BenOchart
      @BenOchart  7 лет назад

      That's awesome. It's great when something meets our needs and actually performs. Thanks for watching and commenting.

  • @rwebdaddy
    @rwebdaddy 4 года назад +1

    I have 2 sunsun 302's for a few years now and never had any problems. I also have a Aquatop cf400uv for 5yrs now and did get some rattling but went away. I will always buy sunsun filters for the rest of my fish tank hobbie life. Great video bud.

  • @RinaDasler
    @RinaDasler 7 лет назад +1

    Sold. Just ordered 2 of SunSuns to be my back ups for Eheims & also they come with UV lamp build in which is good thing.

    • @BenOchart
      @BenOchart  7 лет назад

      I don't think you will be disappointed. Watch a few YT videos on set-up tips and you'll be good to go.

  • @Puma1Sunfire1
    @Puma1Sunfire1 5 лет назад

    Nice Video Ben. Have a 304 B filter and its a love hate relationship at times for me. Currently down for maintenance because of wear and tear on o ring and a broken UV tube. Don't leave the uv light on 24/7. Just a bad idea. Uv light will run hot and burn out when it doesn't have waterflow to cool it off, not to mention the damage it can do to all the plastics that surround it. Built an inline diy out of PVC for UVC, heater, and Co2 diffusion and it works perfectly for my needs and killed the need for the uv light in canister.

  • @mattjackson1988
    @mattjackson1988 6 лет назад +1

    Just bought one of these. Great vid!

    • @BenOchart
      @BenOchart  6 лет назад

      Can't beat the price. My 704B is a beast of a filter.

  • @inventoryking
    @inventoryking 7 лет назад

    Nice video Ben. That's great that you found ways to fix your sunsun. I just had my first issue with a sunsun I have recently. It is leaking from the gasket. First time I have had an issue with sunsun. Owned these for over a year.

    • @BenOchart
      @BenOchart  7 лет назад

      You might be able to get a gasket replacement on eBay or Amazon. Some vaseline can also help.

    • @inventoryking
      @inventoryking 7 лет назад

      Thanks

  • @roxyqueen5076
    @roxyqueen5076 6 лет назад

    Mr.Ochart..you are right on..I hear nothing but good about the sun sun so I put sun sun canister filters on all of my aquariums 55 and up and they work GREAT!! But here and there i heard people complaining about some of the things that you discuss in your video..I think that we all think that evry thing that we buy should be NO maintenance at all..thats is just being in dream land..but also so far I have no issues with my filters..good video!!thanks

  • @redjack56
    @redjack56 7 лет назад +17

    I like my Sun Sun it's a great backup filter in conjunction with other filters. Regarding top of the line filters I'll take an Eheim classic over any other canister filter any day ! 👹

    • @BenOchart
      @BenOchart  7 лет назад +2

      One of these days I'm going to try out an Eheim canister.
      Thank you for watching and commenting!

    • @svtcontour
      @svtcontour 7 лет назад +4

      My Eheim 2217 classic is about 14 years old. My 2260 classic is like 17 years old now. They are wonderfully engineered products.

    • @svtcontour
      @svtcontour 7 лет назад +2

      The Eheim classics might need the same manual 'burping' but I find after a short while, it clears itself out though so I never bother.

    • @OriginalMindTrick
      @OriginalMindTrick 4 года назад

      Nothing like a bucket + a highly engineered german pump. It just works and works.

  • @GSP-76
    @GSP-76 6 лет назад

    These filters are fantastic units...you could buy the 304b variant for $75 shipped now...and the pipes come with a frame clip too...it's relatively easy to troubleshoot them too.

  • @ryanmassey586
    @ryanmassey586 8 месяцев назад

    Great tips. If i missed it the video sorry for being repetitive but the other thing I found fixes half of the impeller issues is when you check to make sure it's seated and assembled right is to grease it impeller shaft with some petroleum jelly.

  • @soarer282
    @soarer282 7 лет назад +1

    I have a 304B running my aquaponics system in the garden. It's in direct sunlight/rain and it's been going strong for the last 15 months. Oh yeah, it also ran on various tanks inside for about 5 years before it went outside and it also sat outside for a year or two before I put it on the aquaponic system.
    I seriously think they are one of the best filters ever made. They are indestructible.
    As for the uv light, it's what made me put the filter on the ap system to begin with due to the constant green water. 2000 litres (528.3441 Gallons) of water went from green to CRYSTAL clear in about 2 days.
    My original plan was to run it till it broke and replace it with a good fluval canister filter. I have 3 aquael uni max 700 running my display tanks inside now. I feel that if I had bought the overpriced filters the shop assistants wanted to sell me, I would have never been able to afford my upgraded tanks.

    • @BenOchart
      @BenOchart  7 лет назад

      That's an amazing story. 2 days to clear up that much water is epic. Thanks for sharing this with everyone!

  • @sam3d
    @sam3d Год назад

    I'm glad you said "stop" because I was on my way to the trash with my sun-sun! Lmao

  • @FrozenToast396
    @FrozenToast396 7 лет назад +1

    I'm rather new to the Bobbie but I have a sunsun 304, 404 (i believe the 404 is an updated version of the 304 and a 505 or 504 I can't remember exactly but anyway they have a been running for a little over a year with absolutely no problem. no leaks. no noise. no noticable drop in flow. awesome for the money imo!!

    • @BenOchart
      @BenOchart  7 лет назад

      Agree, for the money one can't really complain.
      Thank you for watching and commenting.

  • @MartellC.
    @MartellC. 7 лет назад +3

    Great tips Ben!

  • @robertsowinski164
    @robertsowinski164 2 года назад

    I have 6 SunSun 304 B's I love them

  • @KlikAndSeuss
    @KlikAndSeuss 3 года назад

    Ben I love your content!
    You've helped me in so many ways! My fish appreciate the shared wisdom you've given! 😃
    I'm not sure which modle to get the 304, 404 or the 704. Im considering the 704 and after watching this im still undecided. What would you reccomend? I have a 55 gallon currently but will be upgrading to either a 90 gallon or 120 in the future which is why I want to spend the money for a decent filter I can continue to use in the future.
    Thank you so much Ben you've been amazing and I appreciate everything you do, I know this video is a bit older but I do hope you see this and can respond. Thanks!

  • @joseloterry
    @joseloterry 5 лет назад +7

    6 years and still running perfect

    • @BenOchart
      @BenOchart  5 лет назад +4

      Over four for me and I have to touch them to feel if they are on because they are so quiet.

    • @JC-ps2zy
      @JC-ps2zy 3 года назад

      7 :) never even had to clean the impeller

    • @randyorr9051
      @randyorr9051 3 года назад

      4th year on mine now. No issues. I've got a fluval and a marine land as well, done more on those than my sunsun 704b

  • @RideFree317
    @RideFree317 7 лет назад +1

    hi Ben . I like my susun , and is usually a logical reason for noise or leaks . mine had a drip on the out put into tank , fixed that by trimming the little ridge off from the moulding process on the part you push hose on . the tick tick noise turned out to be ceramic rings in verry bottom like you do was tumbling around in water flow. when you fill media baskets make sure the handle goes right down , that way the next basket will fit correctly on top . the biggest difference I find with cheaper canister filters is the quality of the plastic trays and fittings is more flimsy . cheers Ben good video.

    • @BenOchart
      @BenOchart  7 лет назад

      Ricardo cichlid Agree on all points, thank you for watching and commenting

  • @Simply9527
    @Simply9527 5 лет назад

    got mine sun sun 302.265gph.about a year now. never had issue.but last month when i change the media,forget to put water back in.then push the button over 100time to suck water in .and finally ,it start leaking from the side connet,not really bad, i think it would be fix by change O ring. but who cares it still run.and love it.

  • @mr.dpfaquariums4560
    @mr.dpfaquariums4560 7 лет назад

    your video was very informative as always. I agree with you on the quality of the Sunsun filters. I have used several Sunsun filter's over 5 years now 303b and 304b with UV lamps without any problems what so ever. but the 402b with uv did melt my tray. I replaced the tray only to have it melt the tray again. So I replaced the tray and the uv bulb ...you won't believe this but it melt it a third time . the filter is still being used on my quarantine tank but without a uv bulb in it currently. I did everything to find out what caused this.

    • @BenOchart
      @BenOchart  7 лет назад

      Damn frustrating. I wonder if the base of the UV, where it screws in, is just slightly tilted causing the bulb to be at an angle and touch the tray?
      Were all the trays melted or just the top or bottom tray?

    • @mr.dpfaquariums4560
      @mr.dpfaquariums4560 7 лет назад

      the top tray melted the first time. The second trays melted the second and the third time around. Like I said there were no issues with my other 4 Sunsun canister 304b & 404b

  • @kritikaroy5058
    @kritikaroy5058 5 лет назад +3

    Loved your video.new sunsun owner here😄

    • @BenOchart
      @BenOchart  5 лет назад +1

      Thank you for watching.

  • @mau5lover2000
    @mau5lover2000 5 лет назад

    Yep i have a magnum 350 on my 55 its a great filter but it is a pain to get the air out and get it to run quietly.

  • @3xzsucof
    @3xzsucof 5 лет назад

    I have 3 sunsun canister filters, and 2 other types of sunsun filters. They are noisier than other brand filters that I have. They work great, one melted down on the inside, im guessing it was the uv bulb. Baskets, and media bags were melted. I replaced that unit with an fx6 but i still run the other ones, and plan on using the melted one after i get some new baskets. Just my experience with the brand.

  • @billwalker775
    @billwalker775 3 года назад

    Hi Ben, in other comments I've already thanked you for your excellent videos on filters, including this one. I was hoping to not be in the group who has a buzzing Sunsun 304, but it seems I am. I've gone through all your tips (two or three times) plus trying other things, yet still have a rattle/buzz. I have a single 304 on my 53 gallon in my living room display tank, and love the size of the trays packed with bio media. On my 30 gallon tanks I've got Fluval 207s, and they are really quiet, and you can adjust the flow. If I go with two Fluval 307s on this tank I can probably fit all the media from the 304, have adjustable flow, and quiet in my living room. I like the idea of the redundancy anyway.

    • @BenOchart
      @BenOchart  3 года назад +1

      Sorry to hear about that buzzing. It can be real annoying. Sounds like you have a plan!

  • @dmoore0079
    @dmoore0079 3 года назад +1

    Mine made it 10 years with only needing 2 pump head o-ring replacements and 2 impellers. I recently had to replace it due to the magnetic field in the impeller housing becoming weak and killing flow. I paid $60 back in 2010 and I think I got my moneys worth!

    • @BenOchart
      @BenOchart  3 года назад

      $6 a year, LOL, that's a bargain! I had to change an impeller because I dropped it and broke off one of the blades. The replacement was better build, bigger blades.

  • @cstrcstr8841
    @cstrcstr8841 4 года назад

    Thank you so much. Last clip though 🍻

  • @gpwnedable
    @gpwnedable 4 года назад

    My Sunsun "joint of dirtiness" failed. The night before I was leaving on a flight overseas for 3 weeks. I guess it was lucky it didn't happen the next day!

  • @alexmercer9991
    @alexmercer9991 3 года назад +1

    Very helpful video , great job

    • @BenOchart
      @BenOchart  3 года назад +1

      Glad you think so!

  • @scottgordin9709
    @scottgordin9709 3 года назад

    I have an FX6 on a 125gal African Cichlid tank with 22 fish and love how much water that beast moves and how clear the water is, I service that filter once a month only to swap the polishing pad and to see how the sponges are doing. Just recently picked up a SunSun 704B for a 75 gal South American Cichlid tank which has 2 Electric Blue Acars, 2 albino Oscars (3” each) 4 Polar Blues and a fresh water Barracuda and so far really like how it moves the water, keeps the water clear and is pretty quiet. Haven’t looked inside of it yet since I set it up only 2 weeks ago but I am interested in seeing how the bio and chem filtration looks after a month or so. Highly recommend both brands and using the pond guru videos to set up the filters.

  • @williammcdonald900
    @williammcdonald900 7 лет назад +1

    Good advice. Thanks.

  • @paulsampugnaro6919
    @paulsampugnaro6919 7 лет назад +2

    Never had a problem with noise or anything else and I have a few sunsun 404B's and they're great. Can you show me how you have your spray bars and intakes with two canisters on one tank or are you using a duck bil on one.. Thanks for Videos I've learned a lot from you.

    • @BenOchart
      @BenOchart  7 лет назад +1

      Thank you Paul.
      I don't use the spray bars but instead use both outputs (fluval fx6 & sunsun 704b) on the right side pointed slightly up to create water motion and surface tension break-up (for the release of bad gas and introduction of oxygen) and the fluval intake, along with a SunSun dual headed powerhead (1800 gph), are on the left side. Things are kept in suspension with all the water motion until one of the intakes sucks it up.
      I also stir up the sand and vacuum every week or two using a traditional Aqueon system or the vacuum system that comes with the fluval.

  • @kunalpattnayak4915
    @kunalpattnayak4915 6 лет назад +1

    Very informative, thanks

    • @BenOchart
      @BenOchart  6 лет назад

      You are welcome and I'm glad that you found it informative.

  • @richs7362
    @richs7362 3 года назад

    My SunSun had the top seal leak which I fixed with cleaning the mateing surface and a new seal but also the UV light seal leaked and corroded the bulb connection and burnt out the bulb. Cleaned up the mess and replaced the seal, tube and bulb but I'm a tad Leary to even turn on the UV now. I also keep the filter in a cut down plastic tub to contain any future leaks.And yes mine gives out a constant hum. Have to try to work on that more though.

  • @armanduval.83
    @armanduval.83 4 года назад +1

    I have one SunSun 304b and an AquaTop which is basically the same canister under a different brand name. Both of them have been non stop running since 2013 with no issues whatsoever! Awesome products that keep the water in my thanks Cristal clear with good parameters. The best you can get for what you pay!

    • @BenOchart
      @BenOchart  4 года назад +1

      I agree! Thank you for watching.

  • @gregorystark1217
    @gregorystark1217 5 лет назад

    Question, Couldn't you use a Aqua Lifter on the output side(tap into the output line), to prime it?

  • @COOPERSCICHILDS
    @COOPERSCICHILDS 7 лет назад +2

    great video Ben

  • @eipi5173
    @eipi5173 6 лет назад +1

    Temperamental at 1st But once you know what to do they're great. My 4 been purring for 3+ years.

    • @BenOchart
      @BenOchart  6 лет назад

      Ei Pi Agree, still one of the best bargains in the hobby!
      Thanks for watching!

  • @truereefkeeping6022
    @truereefkeeping6022 4 года назад

    i bought 2 sunsun 404b because you said that sunsun is good, i had them both for less than 2 months and in the same day of calening them they both started leaking everywhere

  • @joechunter1
    @joechunter1 7 лет назад +3

    Hi Ben what media do you use in that last basket in the canister? bio balls, biohome or ceramic rings, other? also where are a couple of sources for tank backgrounds? yours looks awesome!

    • @BenOchart
      @BenOchart  7 лет назад +2

      Hello Hunter, The background I'm using is a "Rocky" thin from Universal Rocks in Texas. If you order from them use the Jay Wilson discount code at checkout. It will save you, I believe, 15%.
      Regarding the canister set up, check out my Canister Maintenance playlist here: ruclips.net/p/PLr8ew8o8WXoA-6pu7lFTc_D6idLKGCE2j

  • @PiniWini73
    @PiniWini73 4 года назад +2

    About the UV light. It should be enough to run it for 24h a week. So set an appointment in your phone for every week and run it like friday afternoon till the saterday afternoon.
    That should be enough to kill the wrong bacteria.

    • @BenOchart
      @BenOchart  4 года назад +1

      Good tip. Someone mentioned that the uv would help clarify the water but not kill much because the water is moving too quickly past the light? I would run it on weekends but have it off the rest of the time. I did notice better water quality after running it.

  • @mpwall123
    @mpwall123 6 лет назад +1

    Nice concise information. Thumbs up

  • @cozygamingandvideos3914
    @cozygamingandvideos3914 6 лет назад

    I have two 302's on a 55 gallon (actual water volume approx. 45g). Initially I had them hooked up in series with a CO2 reactor. I was only getting 140 gph out of them together. I then hooked them up separately. The filter with the reactor gets about 80 gph, and the other puts out 140. The trays aren't overloaded. They have a course sponge, filter floss, and lava rock - and I've purged it - which you really have to do after water changes. No noise or leaks are evident. I just wish I had more flow was higher. I have a Penn Plax rated for 265 gph on my 30, and puts out much more flow.

  • @josephz4573
    @josephz4573 6 лет назад +1

    Great video very informational

    • @BenOchart
      @BenOchart  6 лет назад

      lil fire I’m glad you found it helpful

  • @RSP190166
    @RSP190166 6 лет назад +1

    Silicone oil is a great benefit for canister filters, Stops noise an makes impeller shaft last much longer along with seals and cheap to buy. Silicon oil is safe for your fish to... hope this helps peeps. Great video sir. I have to say i have never had a problem as of yet with any of my canister filters. So in my eyes its the user or a defect.

    • @BenOchart
      @BenOchart  6 лет назад +1

      Great tip and I agree 100%.
      Thank you for watching and commenting.

  • @TH-zb7sh
    @TH-zb7sh 7 лет назад +1

    I bought one of the 4 tray ones, the UV died fairly quickly which I'm not concerned about, what does pose an issue is that it leaks if it's not running, so in a powercut or if I switch it off to do a power change. I can stop this leaking if I'm there, by lifting the lock off lever but not removing the hoses. It's like the seam/gasket can't hold up to the pressure if theres no flow.

    • @BenOchart
      @BenOchart  7 лет назад

      I believe you can buy that small section and replace it? Check it out on eBay or Amazon. Might save you some aggravation (and some wet floors).

  • @Wellesly
    @Wellesly 5 лет назад

    Can I use scoria rocks as biological filter and will it affect the efficiency of the Sunsun filter?

  • @robertopagan5809
    @robertopagan5809 4 года назад

    Would you be able to do a review on the sunsun hw 5000?

  • @jeremycurtiss8579
    @jeremycurtiss8579 4 года назад

    Would you recommend the 704 or an FX6 ?

  • @elite2sick225
    @elite2sick225 6 лет назад +1

    I love my Sunsun 303b. Honestly, for the price, I got it for $60 CAD was a steal and the build quality in my opinion is really good. I do not know why people are complaining that it is so cheap in terms of quality as it seems like if you know what you are doing it won't break. I mean come on it is no Rolls Royce or anything.

  • @TheFunkytrapper
    @TheFunkytrapper 7 лет назад +1

    Thanks Ben

  • @wilsonong5377
    @wilsonong5377 4 года назад

    My hw5000 drain out valve comes off very easily. Just a slight tug and it falls off. Am i missing something?