I been using 304B for about 6yrs, earlier this year I gave in and bought a FX6. I really wished I would've kept my $. Great filter but my 304B worked just as well.
I completely understand your logic. I have owned both. When I first started in the hobby, I went with the Sunsun. You are right. It is easier to replace the entire canister than it was to fix or clean whatever issue I had with the canister. I eventually bought a FX6. At the price point I bought the FX6 for, it actually forced me to become a better fish keeper. I was more cognizant of the care I gave to the FX6 because it did cost so much more. I keep the propeller cleaner, I empty the filter more often, I actually lube the o-ring, etc. Or maybe I was just a lazy/bad fish keeper in the beginning??? I really do like the self start and the purge valve on the FX6.
So the FX6 made you do more work than when you had your Sunsun? If the FX6 provides better/ healthier water condition for your fish than the Sunsun, then great.
I have a 304B on my 40 gallon tank and i can honestly say that my tank has never been so clear, it replaced two aqua clear 50 hob filters and i had an issue with a tank full of mountain dew like water, the uv cleared it up in 5 days and now it is great. no noise, no issues priming, no issues at all. great filter.
I can't remember the model number but the sunsun I have is the 5 tray one ... Tons of room for mechanical and biological media ... Two trays sponged and floss two trays lava rock , one tray ceramic balls capped with final polish floss ... Love it!
I own both. I see your logic. I am still set on the fx 6. The flu all is a really nice filter, self prime, automatic air purge, quite. For a budget the sun sun. For ease of use, reliability and lots of flow I like the fx 6!
I agree with you JN AQUARIUM I have both when it comes to servicing the fluval fx6 I don't think about twice but the sunsun seems to take more effort to service therefore I only do it when I have to
The first canister I bought was about 3 months ago and it was an Eheim Pro 2076 E series, set it up correctly, seemed to be doing great, the next morning my basement was flooded because water poured out through the where the lid and main body join together. I didn’t lose my fish, there was about 8 inches of water left in my 125 at the time. I bought a SunSun HW-704b and it’s been running like a champ. Bought the SunSun 304b yesterday for my 75 that I haven’t yet set up because I’m currently moving, but it has the same gph as the 704b and also rated for up to 150 gallon tanks for a little less money... I’m a SunSun believer!
I have two fx4s one fx6 two 304b two 303b they all work well. The output with media slows sunsun down more then the fxs. Fxs are easier to start and more powerful. The sunsun is easier to clean. There all excellent! They all get the job done well!
The pump is the best on fluval. Sun sun are good. I've had them and still have a couple. Maintenance on fluval is so much easier. I have Oscar's and run a fx6 and fx4. So I need the flow. They keep my tank beautiful. When I ran two sun sun 304b I never got enough to keep it clean enough
I have an fx6 and I completely understand your argument. My filter works great, but it sounds like yours does too. I hope that I get overall better performance in its life, but I don’t really know.
It's been a year now since i posted the comment and have upgraded to a 75 gallon tank and switched the 304B to the bigger tank and still love it, I have a 450 Pro HOB that I have been trying on my 40 and don't like it that much the biggest issue is with the intake tube and the motor cover, one being too loose and falling off and when the motor cover comes off it takes almost putting it in a vise to get it back together. I think I will stick with the 304B, not an issue in over a year.
Fluval FX4 and 6 are the best I have both I just had to get a filter that is UL listed. If you have a flood or a fire the insurance companies will not pay for damages if the filters are not UL listed.
I've debunked that insurance myth a million times. UL listing has ZERO to do with insurance. Now, whether someone has "flood" insurance will be a determining factor in a claim, but UL listing is an advertising thing.
From my experience with the SunSun filters, I would recommend replacing the O Ring around the bucket once a year if you dont want it to leak. The O Rings are cheap on Amazon so keep a couple on hand. You will enjoy the filter for a long time...
I have a sunsun and a fx6 u did get the main 2 things it's the self start an the valve to not have to lift it full I think its mainly a thing for the older to benefit from but in the UK u can get a pre owned fx6 for same price as Sunsun so depends if your bothered about it been pre owned
Currently run 2 x 304s on my 350 litre tropical planted tank set up 8 years now. Here's a few random experience/thoughts... (1) garage has 3 faulty canister heads all because of UV light failure (2) mine leak after maintenance 20% of time (3) keep working pumps in bucket (4) have plenty PTFE tape for O ring sealing (5) use mechanical pre filter so don't open canister too often (6) use silicone lube for impeller (7) plastic is cheap so handle carefully (8) it is quiet (9) UV light burns out plastic media trays (10) parts cheap from China but order ahead due to delivery time. Overall rating: 7 out of 10 (despite all the problems listed above)
It's pretty much the same here in Canada. I'm looking at a sunsun for my 90 gallon and even they are 170 on Amazon. I wish I lived in the states.....everything is cheaper lol.
Hi Dan, I have a 304-b on a pretty good stocked 55, it came with a used 90 tank I bought, I find it to work great. think the fx-6 is alot of hype.. One thing you should consider is the booster, it has 3 sponges course, med course and fine. water runs thru the booster first to catch the crud. I open that to clean the sponges about every 2 weeks. the 304 only has media in all the trays. I only have to open the 304 about every 6 months just to shake off the media.
I've seen those peculiar little pre-filters all over the place. They have no pump, instead, they utilize the main canister’s pump to pull water/waste through both containers. Yes, segregating mech filtration in such a way is an absolute no brainer👍🏾! The best part is that it can be used with any brand canister filter.
I would never pay 300+ for a filter, cant blame ya there. However the FX4 is more then enough filter for any of my tanks. Add to that i got the fx4 for $169 last year on sale and the price gap closes. If i had to buy canisters for as many tanks as you have I would definitely have a few sun suns in the fish room. I honestly don't see why so many people take thing's so personally. The filter you choose has ZERO impact on me and vice versa. If you are enjoying this hobby thats all that matter's!!
I have had a sunsun 603, 304b and still running a 704b. The reason I do not have the 603 and 304 running is because I took down the tanks. The 704b has been running for about 6 years with the only problem I have had was it leaking until I found out I had to put silicon on the o-ring. I bought a fluval before going on vacation when the 704b started leaking which turned out to be a joke. My experience is the sunsun is way more filter than the fluval!
SO true! FILTERS are filters. The only thing I LOOK AT IS LONGEVITY and RELIABILITY b/c of that reason I GO with Eheim classic filters LAST FOREVER (many many years) cost more than sunsun but less than fluval FX series I had an fx 5 i paid at that time 250$ for it years ago and no is not worth the money it did what filter should do but i also owned sunsun for a lot cheaper it also did what a filter should do.The BIG difference was I COULD HAVE bought 2 sunsun for less and had both sides filter out! I WILL say the FX is powerful enough to filter out large tanks by itself. Great video.
I own both, and they work just fine. Fluval has more power, sef priming but is way complicated to clean and it is a lot more expensive. Sun Sun is cheapear, reliable and easy to maintain, but the plastics are poorer and if you don´t handle with care they will brake. But In the end, (and its all that matters) both they do a nice job cleaning my aquarium
I've owned several sun suns for about 6 years now. I have 3 hw203's, a 304b and bought the hw3000 last year. I really like the built in timer for the UV lamp, I had the tray problem with the 304b also. Other than that the only issues were an O ring leak (my fault) and one of the 203's primer sticks and is hard to operate . They run constantly nice and quiet and have never failed me. The 304b and 3000 hold a crap load of media
@@danaquatics4031 runs great, control buttons are a little tricky (sometimes you have to push them more than once) replaced the O-ring because of a slight trickle I noticed after a water change. Holds a ton of media (more than FX6) and has great flow. I don't like the way you have to purge it by pouring water down the lines, but I have an FX6 and am spoiled, motor at the bottom is a great design. As with all sunsuns you have to be kind of gentle when you assemble/disassemble it. The plastic parts are pretty flimsy. Overall, great filter for the price. I have the 3000 pared with the FX6 on my 180g, they do a great job.
I love this video. I own an fx6. It's all about mechanical. In fact the best mechanical filter there is. Now I do go with 704s. Only because i never have to prime. But the sunsun has far more room for biological filtration. The fluval has far more mechanical filtration. It's a choice. I actually love them both. The fluval has possibly too much flow for some fish. I keep all kinds. I wouldn't put the fluval with small fish.
I need to inform you that foam, especially 30ppi foam in the FX6 outperforms any ceramics, pebbles, plastic balls and actually is the best performer at biofiltration of all the static media in comparison tests. If you clean it every month it will just work as mechanical filtration, but let it do its thing and after 2 months it outcompetes everything.
@@cichlidkingaquatics5988The foam the most better for filteration, if you have variable ppi sponge your filteration is even better. I have 40 gallons tropical tank, the water crystal clear, the water parameters just perfect like amonia, nitrit, is 0 nitrat level is low, and any other parameters is perfect to. I do, have siporax but only 200 gramm, becouse i had home before, so i just use it. But the sponge is most better in any way like mechanikal and biological filteration.
Fluvals are good but way to bulky, they normally don't fit in smaller door stands. I have a 120 g tank with narrow cabinets under the tank, cannot fit the fx in it.
Got my last one for $225 on Black Friday and heard some were going for $170. I'll try a SunSun if I set up another big tank on your recommendation though
I have a 55 gallon. I just ordered a SunSun 303B, glass lid and new led light all for the price I would have paid for a Fluval 407 that I originally ordered and canceled....
I bought two 304’s & saved a couple hundred instead of buying one fIuval fx6. I had an Fx6 before that & my honest opinion is that I like the sun sun 304 better.... the uv gives the edge plus I hated all the knobs on the fx6 . The 304 is easier to change/clean.
Lovely info.. I m settjng up 65 Gallon Goldfish tank.. Do u think 304B is ideal or shall i go for Lil lesser 303B or so... All i wanna know is Suction power 304B, is it too strong that it can coz swimming problems to goldfish?? Reason i m asking as i wanna get a canister under $100 bucks..
@@DanHiteshew-oneandonly Thanks, Can this cover be taken off and UV light switch turned off when the filter is on, or do I turn off the filter first? IS this clear cover for the switch to be pulled off or unscrewed?
@@richarddegannes2928 It pulls off, but you might need to wiggle it or even gently pry it up if it's stuck. If you look straight down the top, you'll see a pale blue light that indicates the uv light is on. The on/off switch is under the clear cap. You can turn it off whenever.
I feel the same way about Aquaclear hang on backs. Nothing wrong with them but I can buy a 20-40 dollar hang on back that does the same thing and just add my own media to it. If something happens to it one day it doesn't take long to get 20 dollars worth out of a filter and it is easy enough to just replace it. Thanks for sharing.
i made a cannister filter for my pond out of a tidy cat 5 gallon bucket. Pumped the water through an inlet valve at the bottom, up through a course then fine sponge, then up through about 3 gallons of lava rock. worked so good when i brought the fish in for winter i used it for there winter tank
I have 125gal tank and I have a fx6 in the past I have had a sunsun 304b and over all fx6 is better but I will still buy a sunsun ether one will do great
Hello. I was using FX4s on my 75g tanks cut back to sponge filters a lot easier to clean. And I run power heads with poly fil to polish the water. And a lot less worry of pumping water all over the floor. Thanks for your time Dan .
Have used both, and many others. Never really had an issue with any canister filter, they're such a simple bit of kit. The only plus for the fluval, for me, is the no need to prime it
Can't speak for the Fluval FX but I've owned 2 sunsuns and a Fluval 07 range and the 07 is waaaaay quieter than sunsun. I had to return both sunsuns as they were intolerable in my living room.
I'm reviewing reviews, I'm just about to buy a fluval 407 or a sunsun 304b, I think your personal experience regarding the sound was very helpful. thanks for the criticism, I'm going to buy the fluval.
You call it as it is! 100% agree! The only issue for some, possibly, would be the water bypassing the mechanical filtering media. I have Fluval, Cascade, SunSun and Marineland canister filters. The only one that I believe solves this issue is the Marineland C series, I have a C220 in one of my 40 breeder. They accomplish that with the rubber seals they place in the tubes drawing water down the filter and the bottom tray that forces water up. Thumbs up!
I think the only benefit to the FX filters is the size of the canister itself and the amount of media it can hold. Other than that. They're all essentially buckets with hoses and a pump. Have you ever looked at the odyssea CFS canister filters?
Wow that's impressive considering the amount of media you can pack into those. The odyssea filters are a cheap no thrills filter. They have good reviews. I have the CFS 130 on a tank. Been a good little filter
I’m gonna put 2 Sunsuns on my 110 gallon community tank with a transparent pre filter on each. I will get one this month and if it’s not powerful enough I will get another one. Still half the price of one fx6
I just ordered a 304b filter and it’s impeller rod broke within the first day of use I’m currently waiting to go to the fish store to get the part to fix it I have no other filters to run my tank off at the moment don’t buy this the parts are cheap
I have a sun sun on my 55 g tank and my water is crystal clear I upgraded to the 304b for my 75g (hasn't came yet) currently have a fx5 I paid 200 used for ....still has 13 cichlids in it crystal clear but over all with both filter im not impressed and Managing the sun sun is easier I dont have to unbolt a motor to clean my empellar its right in the lid ...both GREAT FILTERS but hands down buy a good sun sun
I need a car that has 4 wheels, a steering wheel, a tank for gas, seats, mirrors.....😂😂😂😂 just kidding, I have the Aurora which it is the same exact filter as the sun one!
Had many friends who have had canister filters.....checked them out and in comparison to the HOB filters we use and UG filters it doesn’t seem worth the difference in price and ease of cleaning at all....great points Dan....👍
I needed a filter for my 75 gallon that I carry to the sink. I was attracted to the FX6 because I could drain it first, making it lighter for me to carry. I bought it and installed it,but my constantly digging and spitting gravel cichlids spat gravel into the motor, causing it to rattle. I took it back and now have a Hydor. I've never seen the Sunsun in the stores here. I have a Fluval 306 on my 25 gallon and the water is crystal clear. I've heard that the Sunsun is called Pond Solutions in the UK. Great video.
I'm not sure they get sold in stores. You can find them on ebay under many names. Most often it won;t even have a name, but it's the same filter out of the same factory. You can get them for about $75 on ebay, but I trust Amazon as a seller more than random people on ebay.
The reason Sunsun is so cheap is that the pump is not approved for American wiring regulations. IF it damages your wiring (it won't) but if it did your insurance will not pay to fix. It's the same pump as in their more expensive models, just without the metal tag that says approved.
Sorry Dan but you got this one wrong. I ran 2 sunsun 304b filters before switching them out for 2 Fluval, and since the change my fish are much happier! They really appreciate the quality of the Fluvals over the cheap Sunssun. My plants have also experienced 35% better growth! .... What? You don't believe me?
I have an Aquamanta Canister Filter EFX 1500U on my 200-litre and I'm in love with it; it self starts and primes after any power glitzes. The only thing Fluval I have is a U3 internal for my 145-litre and it does a magnificent job as for anything else Fluval, nope as it's way overpriced for what it is. The prices of their LED lights are overboard and a complete joke.
I have the FX6 and the sun sun and the sun sun is way better. The water in the tank that my sun sun is hooked up on is always way more clean and clear. The water stays crystal clear and I can go 2-3 months in between water changes with the sun sun filter. I’m doing water changes with the FX6 about every 2-3 weeks just to keep the water quality just as good as the sun sun filter.
FX is the best but not a great value compared to a sump. I have had others in the past but currently own a Plen Plax cascade 700, Sun Sun 304B, Fluval FX5 and FX6. The FX is larger by a decent margin so if you had a bigger tank or heavily stocked but didnt want a sump the FX is a good option. Im to a 150T with a 304B and a FX5 thats sharing a 37 gallon sump with a 180G that also has a FX6. The FX6 is worth it if you need a bigger or higher flow filter but cant easily do a sump. Most people sun sun prolly fine if not using thr UV if mentioned
sounds like you use a sunsun over fluval because sunsuns are cheaper. nothing wrong with that...but...the problems people have with sunsuns are not worth having one. just type in youtube problems with sunsun 5000 you will get plenty of reasons why NOT to buy one. me personally I went with the Fluval and have never had a problem.who knows maybe its hit and miss with the sunsun for the price they charge you got to know they are taking short cuts or there wouldn't have so many bad reviews.
its all about the electrical rating stamp the sunsun does not have a rating so if the pump failed and caught fire your house insurer wouldn't cover you.
I may be an idiot but nothing with the name Sunsun will ever cross my doors threshold. I have no need for something as large as an FX6 but I have 4 406s, 1 407 and 1 206. Love them and 2 are set up for stacked 40 breeders. Fluval would go nuts over those set ups. And they say it can't be done.🤗🤣🤣🤣
I’ve got 3 sun sun canisters 3 fx6’s and 2 fluval 207’s. The 207’s I bought to replace 2 Sun suns. The sun suns work well, but they will be replaced by a higher quality brand when they brake or die. There is definitely a difference in quality for the price differences. You really should retitle this “A rant about price of a filter I’ve never used and won’t”
Nice video, Filters filters, every canister filter works the same and if the filter size is correct for your tank it don't matter they all do the same thing pumping water trough sponge and biomedia. Fluval are nice but people are to focus on flowrate output, lower flow means better biological cleaning but higher flowrate means better mechanical cleaning and nice for fish who likes some current in the tank. Most fish keepers have a community tank and fish who don't like strong flow like Angels and so on but put big canisters on it whit high flowrate what is not needed and also a planted tank need no high flow through the fish tank. Cheaper canisters works fine like SunSun less flowrate in most cases but cost 50% cheaper and do the same mechanical/biological and also chemical if you ad carbon if you want, why spend 2 times more for the same is my opinion while they do the same. Wifi,and electronic regulated pumps lol, why you start the filter and it's running for 2-4month's need no Wifi for that to prime or when to clean a filter also flowrate can be adjusted whit a watercrane between the hose or it's already on the canister to adjust the flow a little for to much current in your tank. I use Eheim canisters, not cheap also but i will never buy the ones whit Wifi or other electronic junk on it, pump has to pump water trough a canister nothing more and every extra electronic what is added make it sensitive to fail faster in long terms and cost more to replace ! So my opinion, keep fish keeping simple you don't need al that electronic junk on a fish tank, most fish don't need huge canisters on a 125gallon only when you ad fish that need some current. Got 125gallon whit 10 aduld Discus for 5 years now whit only one Eheim Professional-4 600 whit only 320gallons a hour ! and planted.. ques what i got almost the whole Discus community after me because they say it is to little filtration lol. sure not good substrate Sand at the bottem and planted you don't need a huge filter system you already got so much substrate in your tank and plants that ammonia is fast converted to Nitrite to nitrate. Bigger filters is not alway better it depend on tank setup, plantes yes or not and substrate on the bottem yes or not, breeder yes or not and overstock tank yes or not.. so many parameters which filter is right for your tank. Also on my 90gallon got 10 Angels also planted,driftwood and sand as substrate and one canister and same filter Eheim Professional-4 600 whit 320gallons a hour works fine no to much current in the tank because Angels don't like current they live in side arms of the Amazone river where water is mostly standing still ans shallow whit lo'ts of plants and wood for hiding an hunting on insect's and small fish so here is already reason for not having to big filter whit high flowrate so a cheaper SunSun filter will also work just fine !
No, I just don't see why I should spend 3 times the money for something that does the same thing. Fancy names like "Fluval" don't impress me. I want a simple, functional filter. No need to pay hundreds of dollars for it.
@@DanHiteshew-oneandonly the sunsun is pretty awful. You get what you pay for. But hey you don’t know what you’re missing so it is all good, try the fx canister and you will see the light.
@@DanHiteshew-oneandonly yeah everybody was snagging them up last weekend, get it on sale and then you get this special 25% off coupon from a little game you play on their app and then you can also use your in-store points and really bring the price down. I just got a 304b and today for another aquarium. I think I like both of them.
Keep in mind the SunSun and some of its clones are not UL rated in the U.S. which means if the filter fails and causes damage to your home or apartment your homeowners insurance will not cover the damage. I would rather be safe and pay a bit more for a filter that's UL rated. Check out this video ruclips.net/video/NH2WO6zPaWk/видео.html&ab_channel=TrafishAquatics
You pay for better quality/design, have two SunSun 703 & 704, both started to leak from inside the pumphead, have two FX6 as well as a CrystalProfi that I never had any issuses with over the years. The SunSun´s where less than a year old when they started to leak.
I think your wrong... your forgetting the prestige and shines badge You can feel better buy spending more To be honest, had Fluval an JBL. Premium brands. Both leak. Gaskets are not made buy Fluval. They are made by the gasket companies
@@DanHiteshew-oneandonly just from experience!! a sump is better than a canister filter a whole lot quicker to clean. then having a disaster all over the place ..plus canister filters cannot breathe trapping odors and making levels rise
@@DanHiteshew-oneandonly you're comparing a filter you use to one you haven't and pretty much base your entire reasoning on price. You could have chosen any filter more expensive than a SunSun to make your point. I knew from the title what filter you used, I learnt nothing from your pointless pricing rant. 🤷♂️
@@53WRX I didn't have a bunch of people recommend other filters. I get told all the time I need to get an FX6. That FX6 can kiss my ass for that price.
@@DanHiteshew-oneandonly Eheim 2260 is the one to recommend, but it has a less popularist following. However the FX6 has almost twice the cycle of the SunSun and superior mechanical filtration and super efficient internal flow with plenty of room for biological media upgrades. The build quality, and accessories are superior in every way to the SunSun. If you like the SunSun that's great but if you look beyond the price and actually look at what can be achieved with a 'high end' canister filter you may feel differently. I agree the fluval is too expensive but it's not so expensive as to make me want to buy a SunSun. The 2260 at even more money is so much better again than the fx6 but the fx6 seems to have found it's place in the market as the go to quality fit and forget canister which to be fair it does really well. 👍if SunSun can copy properly the lid lock system of the fluval fx6 rather than looking like the 407 and redesign a larger internal media capacity with a properly capable pump, they would be onto a winner.
I been using 304B for about 6yrs, earlier this year I gave in and bought a FX6. I really wished I would've kept my $. Great filter but my 304B worked just as well.
I completely understand your logic. I have owned both. When I first started in the hobby, I went with the Sunsun. You are right. It is easier to replace the entire canister than it was to fix or clean whatever issue I had with the canister. I eventually bought a FX6. At the price point I bought the FX6 for, it actually forced me to become a better fish keeper. I was more cognizant of the care I gave to the FX6 because it did cost so much more. I keep the propeller cleaner, I empty the filter more often, I actually lube the o-ring, etc. Or maybe I was just a lazy/bad fish keeper in the beginning??? I really do like the self start and the purge valve on the FX6.
So the FX6 made you do more work than when you had your Sunsun? If the FX6 provides better/ healthier water condition for your fish than the Sunsun, then great.
I have a 304B on my 40 gallon tank and i can honestly say that my tank has never been so clear, it replaced two aqua clear 50 hob filters and i had an issue with a tank full of mountain dew like water, the uv cleared it up in 5 days and now it is great. no noise, no issues priming, no issues at all. great filter.
same thing happened to me cleared up in 3 days
I can't remember the model number but the sunsun I have is the 5 tray one ... Tons of room for mechanical and biological media ... Two trays sponged and floss two trays lava rock , one tray ceramic balls capped with final polish floss ... Love it!
I own both.
I see your logic. I am still set on the fx 6. The flu all is a really nice filter, self prime, automatic air purge, quite.
For a budget the sun sun. For ease of use, reliability and lots of flow I like the fx 6!
Is it quite ?
Mine sounds like an electric hair clippers ? Or an older whisper air pump. A vibrating humming sound.
I agree with you JN AQUARIUM I have both when it comes to servicing the fluval fx6 I don't think about twice but the sunsun seems to take more effort to service therefore I only do it when I have to
I have an FX6 on my 150, I can't speak for other canister filters but it certainly gets the job done.
The first canister I bought was about 3 months ago and it was an Eheim Pro 2076 E series, set it up correctly, seemed to be doing great, the next morning my basement was flooded because water poured out through the where the lid and main body join together. I didn’t lose my fish, there was about 8 inches of water left in my 125 at the time. I bought a SunSun HW-704b and it’s been running like a champ. Bought the SunSun 304b yesterday for my 75 that I haven’t yet set up because I’m currently moving, but it has the same gph as the 704b and also rated for up to 150 gallon tanks for a little less money... I’m a SunSun believer!
Good luck. I've had no problems with mine other that starting to get a little "rattly" sounding after a few years.
I have two fx4s one fx6 two 304b two 303b they all work well. The output with media slows sunsun down more then the fxs. Fxs are easier to start and more powerful. The sunsun is easier to clean. There all excellent! They all get the job done well!
Thank you for this upload. I really enjoy watching your fish! Especially that angel. Yowza!
The pump is the best on fluval. Sun sun are good. I've had them and still have a couple. Maintenance on fluval is so much easier. I have Oscar's and run a fx6 and fx4. So I need the flow. They keep my tank beautiful. When I ran two sun sun 304b I never got enough to keep it clean enough
I wish I knew what I knew now, when I started out this hobby. The higher tech you go, the more dramas involved.
I have an fx6 and I completely understand your argument. My filter works great, but it sounds like yours does too. I hope that I get overall better performance in its life, but I don’t really know.
Solid information.
Yep, I bought a Polar Aurora HW 304 B canister (like Aquatop, an unbranded Sunsun) from Amazon for about $75. Works great, very pleased.
Yeah, I just saw that "brand" the other day. It was cheaper than I paid. Lol
I am about to replace a Fluval 406 with something. Thanks for the knowledge on the 304b.
It's been a year now since i posted the comment and have upgraded to a 75 gallon tank and switched the 304B to the bigger tank and still love it, I have a 450 Pro HOB that I have been trying on my 40 and don't like it that much the biggest issue is with the intake tube and the motor cover, one being too loose and falling off and when the motor cover comes off it takes almost putting it in a vise to get it back together. I think I will stick with the 304B, not an issue in over a year.
I have 3 and i love all of them
Fluval FX4 and 6 are the best I have both I just had to get a filter that is UL listed.
If you have a flood or a fire the insurance companies will not pay for damages if the filters are not UL listed.
I've debunked that insurance myth a million times. UL listing has ZERO to do with insurance. Now, whether someone has "flood" insurance will be a determining factor in a claim, but UL listing is an advertising thing.
From my experience with the SunSun filters, I would recommend replacing the O Ring around the bucket once a year if you dont want it to leak. The O Rings are cheap on Amazon so keep a couple on hand. You will enjoy the filter for a long time...
I have thought about getting a SunSun but the reviews are over the place. Makes it hard to decide. Glad yours is rock solid.
I have a sunsun and a fx6 u did get the main 2 things it's the self start an the valve to not have to lift it full I think its mainly a thing for the older to benefit from but in the UK u can get a pre owned fx6 for same price as Sunsun so depends if your bothered about it been pre owned
Currently run 2 x 304s on my 350 litre tropical planted tank set up 8 years now. Here's a few random experience/thoughts... (1) garage has 3 faulty canister heads all because of UV light failure (2) mine leak after maintenance 20% of time (3) keep working pumps in bucket (4) have plenty PTFE tape for O ring sealing (5) use mechanical pre filter so don't open canister too often (6) use silicone lube for impeller (7) plastic is cheap so handle carefully (8) it is quiet (9) UV light burns out plastic media trays (10) parts cheap from China but order ahead due to delivery time.
Overall rating: 7 out of 10 (despite all the problems listed above)
Can’t you still use the canister heads without the uv light ?
Dan i live in Australia i 100% agree on the cost of the fx6 it is about 700 dollars down here but for me a sponge filters
Geeze! For that kind of money, I'd be using a hand crank pump. Lol
It's pretty much the same here in Canada. I'm looking at a sunsun for my 90 gallon and even they are 170 on Amazon. I wish I lived in the states.....everything is cheaper lol.
Got two sunsun a 304b and 302 both are great !
Hi Dan, I have a 304-b on a pretty good stocked 55, it came with a used 90 tank I bought, I find it to work great. think the fx-6 is alot of hype.. One thing you should consider is the booster, it has 3 sponges course, med course and fine. water runs thru the booster first to catch the crud. I open that to clean the sponges about every 2 weeks. the 304 only has media in all the trays. I only have to open the 304 about every 6 months just to shake off the media.
I've seen those peculiar little pre-filters all over the place. They have no pump, instead, they utilize the main canister’s pump to pull water/waste through both containers. Yes, segregating mech filtration in such a way is an absolute no brainer👍🏾! The best part is that it can be used with any brand canister filter.
I would never pay 300+ for a filter, cant blame ya there. However the FX4 is more then enough filter for any of my tanks. Add to that i got the fx4 for $169 last year on sale and the price gap closes. If i had to buy canisters for as many tanks as you have I would definitely have a few sun suns in the fish room. I honestly don't see why so many people take thing's so personally. The filter you choose has ZERO impact on me and vice versa. If you are enjoying this hobby thats all that matter's!!
I never had either of them..cause my tank not over 50 gallons ...but I too would not spend that much money on a canister filter. Good tips.
I have fx5 & fx6 running flawlessly for 12+ years. Best filters I ever had.
I have had a sunsun 603, 304b and still running a 704b. The reason I do not have the 603 and 304 running is because I took down the tanks. The 704b has been running for about 6 years with the only problem I have had was it leaking until I found out I had to put silicon on the o-ring. I bought a fluval before going on vacation when the 704b started leaking which turned out to be a joke. My experience is the sunsun is way more filter than the fluval!
SO true! FILTERS are filters. The only thing I LOOK AT IS LONGEVITY and RELIABILITY b/c of that reason I GO with Eheim classic filters LAST FOREVER (many many years) cost more than sunsun but less than fluval FX series I had an fx 5 i paid at that time 250$ for it years ago and no is not worth the money it did what filter should do but i also owned sunsun for a lot cheaper it also did what a filter should do.The BIG difference was I COULD HAVE bought 2 sunsun for less and had both sides filter out! I WILL say the FX is powerful enough to filter out large tanks by itself. Great video.
I got a sunsun 302b on a 75gallon and I love it
I own both, and they work just fine. Fluval has more power, sef priming but is way complicated to clean and it is a lot more expensive. Sun Sun is cheapear, reliable and easy to maintain, but the plastics are poorer and if you don´t handle with care they will brake. But In the end, (and its all that matters) both they do a nice job cleaning my aquarium
I have a penn Plax cascade 1000 and I love it.
I've owned several sun suns for about 6 years now. I have 3 hw203's, a 304b and bought the hw3000 last year. I really like the built in timer for the UV lamp, I had the tray problem with the 304b also. Other than that the only issues were an O ring leak (my fault) and one of the 203's primer sticks and is hard to operate . They run constantly nice and quiet and have never failed me. The 304b and 3000 hold a crap load of media
how's that 3000 holding up now?
@@danaquatics4031 runs great, control buttons are a little tricky (sometimes you have to push them more than once) replaced the O-ring because of a slight trickle I noticed after a water change. Holds a ton of media (more than FX6) and has great flow. I don't like the way you have to purge it by pouring water down the lines, but I have an FX6 and am spoiled, motor at the bottom is a great design. As with all sunsuns you have to be kind of gentle when you assemble/disassemble it. The plastic parts are pretty flimsy. Overall, great filter for the price. I have the 3000 pared with the FX6 on my 180g, they do a great job.
@@ericnortan9012 how long into owning the 3000 did you replace that o ring once you got the trickle leak?
@@danaquatics4031 about 1.5 years. It may have been damaged by me, not sure. It had a flat spot, possibly pinched.
@@ericnortan9012 my hw 3000 arrives today. Wish me luck!
I love this video. I own an fx6. It's all about mechanical. In fact the best mechanical filter there is. Now I do go with 704s. Only because i never have to prime. But the sunsun has far more room for biological filtration. The fluval has far more mechanical filtration. It's a choice. I actually love them both. The fluval has possibly too much flow for some fish. I keep all kinds. I wouldn't put the fluval with small fish.
I need to inform you that foam, especially 30ppi foam in the FX6 outperforms any ceramics, pebbles, plastic balls and actually is the best performer at biofiltration of all the static media in comparison tests. If you clean it every month it will just work as mechanical filtration, but let it do its thing and after 2 months it outcompetes everything.
@@johnfadds6089 there's not much surface area in 30 ppi foam compared to media or fine sponge
@@cichlidkingaquatics5988The foam the most better for filteration, if you have variable ppi sponge your filteration is even better. I have 40 gallons tropical tank, the water crystal clear, the water parameters just perfect like amonia, nitrit, is 0 nitrat level is low, and any other parameters is perfect to. I do, have siporax but only 200 gramm, becouse i had home before, so i just use it. But the sponge is most better in any way like mechanikal and biological filteration.
I completely agree with you!
Fluvals are good but way to bulky, they normally don't fit in smaller door stands. I have a 120 g tank with narrow cabinets under the tank, cannot fit the fx in it.
I have 4 FX filters and found all on sale. Got my last FX6 at Petsmart
Got my last one for $225 on Black Friday and heard some were going for $170. I'll try a SunSun if I set up another big tank on your recommendation though
Accidentally hit send the first time haha
Do you mind sharing what fish you have in this tank? Love your setup!
I think that's my 55 with Angelfish, Diamond Tetras, Hatchetfish,a Syno. Lucipinnis and a pleco.
I have a 55 gallon. I just ordered a SunSun 303B, glass lid and new led light all for the price I would have paid for a Fluval 407 that I originally ordered and canceled....
Totally agree
I bought two 304’s & saved a couple hundred instead of buying one fIuval fx6. I had an Fx6 before that & my honest opinion is that I like the sun sun 304 better.... the uv gives the edge plus I hated all the knobs on the fx6 . The 304 is easier to change/clean.
Lovely info.. I m settjng up 65 Gallon Goldfish tank.. Do u think 304B is ideal or shall i go for Lil lesser 303B or so... All i wanna know is Suction power 304B, is it too strong that it can coz swimming problems to goldfish?? Reason i m asking as i wanna get a canister under $100 bucks..
304b is what I'd go with.
Hello, Please advise how do I turn off the UV light on my SunSun 304B and what is your recommendation to running the UV light? Thanks.
There's a plastic cover on the top. You have to pull the clear cover off and expose the switch. I never run the UV. I don't find it necessary.
@@DanHiteshew-oneandonly Thanks, Can this cover be taken off and UV light switch turned off when the filter is on, or do I turn off the filter first? IS this clear cover for the switch to be pulled off or unscrewed?
@@richarddegannes2928 It pulls off, but you might need to wiggle it or even gently pry it up if it's stuck. If you look straight down the top, you'll see a pale blue light that indicates the uv light is on. The on/off switch is under the clear cap. You can turn it off whenever.
@@DanHiteshew-oneandonly Thanks for reaching out. Much appreciated.
I feel the same way about Aquaclear hang on backs. Nothing wrong with them but I can buy a 20-40 dollar hang on back that does the same thing and just add my own media to it. If something happens to it one day it doesn't take long to get 20 dollars worth out of a filter and it is easy enough to just replace it. Thanks for sharing.
I'm making my own freak filters out of parts of dead filters. I want to try to make a Frankenstein filter.
I've got a graveyard of old filters and parts. I'll send it all to you if you pay shipping.
i made a cannister filter for my pond out of a tidy cat 5 gallon bucket. Pumped the water through an inlet valve at the bottom, up through a course then fine sponge, then up through about 3 gallons of lava rock. worked so good when i brought the fish in for winter i used it for there winter tank
The only thing that probably is the big difference is gph. That can be a big variable if one has a cichlid or a high demanding large aquarium.
You should try oase filters instead of fluval , you can store the heater inside the filter
It says your video was a yr ago, so do you still like the Sun sun. any issues problems ?
Yes, I still use them. I've used them for years without any issues.
Hi, for 300 galons, how many sun sun 304b u recommend me?
Minimum of 2, but probably 3 for a tank that big.
I have 125gal tank and I have a fx6 in the past I have had a sunsun 304b and over all fx6 is better but I will still buy a sunsun ether one will do great
You have to buy the external uv light for the fx6 with that it keeps my 125gal crystal clear all the time and you don't burn out your trays
Hi again sunsun do a great alternative one which is the sunsun hw-5000 that is the same or some people say far superior to the fx6
I found my fx 6 for $75 . Flawless . Got lucky 🍀
I'll say! That's a steal.
For my upcoming 5 feet, I am planning 1 304a/704a + 1 eheim classic 2217, what you say
That seems like a lot of filtration for on tank.
How is your Sunsun HW-5000 doing? Did you ever get that air in the filter issue fixed?
Hello. I was using FX4s on my 75g tanks cut back to sponge filters a lot easier to clean. And I run power heads with poly fil to polish the water. And a lot less worry of pumping water all over the floor. Thanks for your time Dan .
Have used both, and many others. Never really had an issue with any canister filter, they're such a simple bit of kit. The only plus for the fluval, for me, is the no need to prime it
But is that worth 4 times the price?
@@DanHiteshew-oneandonly nope not really. I have one, wouldn't buy another, the price outweighs the benefits. The spares are expensive also.
I’ve never used the valve at the bottom of my fx6 that’s another inconvenience for me. I like to use that water to clean my sponges :)
I also run a sun sun with my fx6 on my 125 African cichlid tank
Can't speak for the Fluval FX but I've owned 2 sunsuns and a Fluval 07 range and the 07 is waaaaay quieter than sunsun. I had to return both sunsuns as they were intolerable in my living room.
I'm reviewing reviews, I'm just about to buy a fluval 407 or a sunsun 304b, I think your personal experience regarding the sound was very helpful. thanks for the criticism, I'm going to buy the fluval.
You call it as it is! 100% agree! The only issue for some, possibly, would be the water bypassing the mechanical filtering media. I have Fluval, Cascade, SunSun and Marineland canister filters. The only one that I believe solves this issue is the Marineland C series, I have a C220 in one of my 40 breeder. They accomplish that with the rubber seals they place in the tubes drawing water down the filter and the bottom tray that forces water up. Thumbs up!
i like sun sun canister filter
I have "A" version no uv, I bought 4 sunsun, same price 1 fluval
I think the only benefit to the FX filters is the size of the canister itself and the amount of media it can hold. Other than that. They're all essentially buckets with hoses and a pump.
Have you ever looked at the odyssea CFS canister filters?
No, I haven't. And the Fluval holds less material than the SunSun.
Wow that's impressive considering the amount of media you can pack into those.
The odyssea filters are a cheap no thrills filter. They have good reviews. I have the CFS 130 on a tank. Been a good little filter
@@adler819 yeah considering the size of the fx, the space for media is small.
@@thefishhouse3820 do you mean media minus the sponges?
@@adler819 yeah the inner trays, dont hold as much as youd think
I’m gonna put 2 Sunsuns on my 110 gallon community tank with a transparent pre filter on each. I will get one this month and if it’s not powerful enough I will get another one. Still half the price of one fx6
How quiet is the sunsun?
Very quiet.
I have an FX4 and i do think they are quite pricey for what they are. Id say the FX6 is probably worth 200 at most.
I just ordered a 304b filter and it’s impeller rod broke within the first day of use I’m currently waiting to go to the fish store to get the part to fix it I have no other filters to run my tank off at the moment don’t buy this the parts are cheap
I have a sun sun on my 55 g tank and my water is crystal clear I upgraded to the 304b for my 75g (hasn't came yet) currently have a fx5 I paid 200 used for ....still has 13 cichlids in it crystal clear but over all with both filter im not impressed and Managing the sun sun is easier I dont have to unbolt a motor to clean my empellar its right in the lid ...both GREAT FILTERS but hands down buy a good sun sun
Also in my 55g I have 36 fish from angels to a 8 inch plecko 11 tiger barbs I can go on and on there good
Alright alright
I need a car that has 4 wheels, a steering wheel, a tank for gas, seats, mirrors.....😂😂😂😂 just kidding, I have the Aurora which it is the same exact filter as the sun one!
Had many friends who have had canister filters.....checked them out and in comparison to the HOB filters we use and UG filters it doesn’t seem worth the difference in price and ease of cleaning at all....great points Dan....👍
A filter is a filter Ive had them all. They all do the same just different flow
The goo is working good, lol
I needed a filter for my 75 gallon that I carry to the sink. I was attracted to the FX6 because I could drain it first, making it lighter for me to carry. I bought it and installed it,but my constantly digging and spitting gravel cichlids spat gravel into the motor, causing it to rattle. I took it back and now have a Hydor. I've never seen the Sunsun in the stores here. I have a Fluval 306 on my 25 gallon and the water is crystal clear. I've heard that the Sunsun is called Pond Solutions in the UK. Great video.
You can still buy Sunsun online (eBay etc) in the UK. But, yeah, a lot of the All Pond Solutions stuff looks like rebadges.
I'm not sure they get sold in stores. You can find them on ebay under many names. Most often it won;t even have a name, but it's the same filter out of the same factory. You can get them for about $75 on ebay, but I trust Amazon as a seller more than random people on ebay.
@@DanHiteshew-oneandonly ,Price for Canada is $159.00. Still cheaper than a lot.
@@IsabellaM._ Yeah, but being Canadian, you do have a lot of the "other" costs of living as I do, so it works out even I guess? Lol
@@DanHiteshew-oneandonly I hope so...Lol.
i got 2 fx6 filiters for 170 each on black friday from petsmart.
That's a sweet deal.
Me too -best deal ever!
@@rosiefeeback5012 did you play that game?
The reason Sunsun is so cheap is that the pump is not approved for American wiring regulations. IF it damages your wiring (it won't) but if it did your insurance will not pay to fix. It's the same pump as in their more expensive models, just without the metal tag that says approved.
That's just internet nonsense. UL listed has nothing to do with your insurance.
Sorry Dan but you got this one wrong.
I ran 2 sunsun 304b filters before switching them out for 2 Fluval, and since the change my fish are much happier! They really appreciate the quality of the Fluvals over the cheap Sunssun. My plants have also experienced 35% better growth!
.... What?
You don't believe me?
come on man!
I have an Aquamanta Canister Filter EFX 1500U on my 200-litre and I'm in love with it; it self starts and primes after any power glitzes.
The only thing Fluval I have is a U3 internal for my 145-litre and it does a magnificent job as for anything else Fluval, nope as it's way overpriced for what it is.
The prices of their LED lights are overboard and a complete joke.
I have the FX6 and the sun sun and the sun sun is way better. The water in the tank that my sun sun is hooked up on is always way more clean and clear. The water stays crystal clear and I can go 2-3 months in between water changes with the sun sun filter. I’m doing water changes with the FX6 about every 2-3 weeks just to keep the water quality just as good as the sun sun filter.
FX is the best but not a great value compared to a sump. I have had others in the past but currently own a Plen Plax cascade 700, Sun Sun 304B, Fluval FX5 and FX6.
The FX is larger by a decent margin so if you had a bigger tank or heavily stocked but didnt want a sump the FX is a good option.
Im to a 150T with a 304B and a FX5 thats sharing a 37 gallon sump with a 180G that also has a FX6.
The FX6 is worth it if you need a bigger or higher flow filter but cant easily do a sump.
Most people sun sun prolly fine if not using thr UV if mentioned
One reason may be the guarantee offered by Fluval.
sounds like you use a sunsun over fluval because sunsuns are cheaper.
nothing wrong with that...but...the problems people have with sunsuns are
not worth having one. just type in youtube problems with sunsun 5000
you will get plenty of reasons why NOT to buy one. me personally I went with the Fluval
and have never had a problem.who knows maybe its hit and miss with the sunsun for the price
they charge you got to know they are taking short cuts or there wouldn't have so many bad reviews.
If I ever have a problem with one, I may change my mind.
its all about the electrical rating stamp the sunsun does not have a rating so if the pump failed and caught fire your house insurer wouldn't cover you.
That's not true. UL listing has zero to do with your insurance. (check your policy about flood damage though)
Buy a second hand one and run for a week or two and then you will find out. Ie your water will be crystal clear
I may be an idiot but nothing with the name Sunsun will ever cross my doors threshold. I have no need for something as large as an FX6 but I have 4 406s, 1 407 and 1 206. Love them and 2 are set up for stacked 40 breeders. Fluval would go nuts over those set ups. And they say it can't be done.🤗🤣🤣🤣
I don't like Fluval design, they waste a lot of space with foams and all. Especially fx6 is such a big unit with so small baskets
I like my cascade. Cheap as it gets. Its a sun sun without the UV.
All I want is the flow and space in reservoir for floss, sponge and more sponge.
I have a 1200, what I do not like is the significant water bypass around the trays, other than that, they are good.
I’ve got 3 sun sun canisters 3 fx6’s and 2 fluval 207’s. The 207’s I bought to replace 2 Sun suns. The sun suns work well, but they will be replaced by a higher quality brand when they brake or die. There is definitely a difference in quality for the price differences. You really should retitle this “A rant about price of a filter I’ve never used and won’t”
Nice video, Filters filters, every canister filter works the same and if the filter size is correct for your tank it don't matter they all do the same thing pumping water trough sponge and biomedia.
Fluval are nice but people are to focus on flowrate output, lower flow means better biological cleaning but higher flowrate means better mechanical cleaning and nice for fish who likes some current in the tank.
Most fish keepers have a community tank and fish who don't like strong flow like Angels and so on but put big canisters on it whit high flowrate what is not needed and also a planted tank need no high flow through the fish tank.
Cheaper canisters works fine like SunSun less flowrate in most cases but cost 50% cheaper and do the same mechanical/biological and also chemical if you ad carbon if you want, why spend 2 times more for the same is my opinion while they do the same.
Wifi,and electronic regulated pumps lol, why you start the filter and it's running for 2-4month's need no Wifi for that to prime or when to clean a filter also flowrate can be adjusted whit a watercrane between the hose or it's already on the canister to adjust the flow a little for to much current in your tank.
I use Eheim canisters, not cheap also but i will never buy the ones whit Wifi or other electronic junk on it, pump has to pump water trough a canister nothing more and every extra electronic what is added make it sensitive to fail faster in long terms and cost more to replace !
So my opinion, keep fish keeping simple you don't need al that electronic junk on a fish tank, most fish don't need huge canisters on a 125gallon only when you ad fish that need some current.
Got 125gallon whit 10 aduld Discus for 5 years now whit only one Eheim Professional-4 600 whit only 320gallons a hour ! and planted.. ques what i got almost the whole Discus community after me because they say it is to little filtration lol. sure not good substrate Sand at the bottem and planted you don't need a huge filter system you already got so much substrate in your tank and plants that ammonia is fast converted to Nitrite to nitrate.
Bigger filters is not alway better it depend on tank setup, plantes yes or not and substrate on the bottem yes or not, breeder yes or not and overstock tank yes or not.. so many parameters which filter is right for your tank.
Also on my 90gallon got 10 Angels also planted,driftwood and sand as substrate and one canister and same filter Eheim Professional-4 600 whit 320gallons a hour works fine no to much current in the tank because Angels don't like current they live in side arms of the Amazone river where water is mostly standing still ans shallow whit lo'ts of plants and wood for hiding an hunting on insect's and small fish so here is already reason for not having to big filter whit high flowrate so a cheaper SunSun filter will also work just fine !
How can you do strongly judge something you never tested? Sound like you are hating on the Fluval to justify your purchase of the Sun Sun.
No, I just don't see why I should spend 3 times the money for something that does the same thing. Fancy names like "Fluval" don't impress me. I want a simple, functional filter. No need to pay hundreds of dollars for it.
@@DanHiteshew-oneandonly the sunsun is pretty awful. You get what you pay for. But hey you don’t know what you’re missing so it is all good, try the fx canister and you will see the light.
Four is more than one.
Indeed.
I got the fx6 filter from PetSmart 138 bucks
That's a great price.
@@DanHiteshew-oneandonly yeah everybody was snagging them up last weekend, get it on sale and then you get this special 25% off coupon from a little game you play on their app and then you can also use your in-store points and really bring the price down. I just got a 304b and today for another aquarium. I think I like both of them.
Your money use what you like
Keep in mind the SunSun and some of its clones are not UL rated in the U.S. which means if the filter fails and causes damage to your home or apartment your homeowners insurance will not cover the damage. I would rather be safe and pay a bit more for a filter that's UL rated. Check out this video ruclips.net/video/NH2WO6zPaWk/видео.html&ab_channel=TrafishAquatics
UL has zero to do with insurance policies. Check to see if your insurance covers flood damage though. Most won't.
You pay for better quality/design, have two SunSun 703 & 704, both started to leak from inside the pumphead, have two FX6 as well as a CrystalProfi that I never had any issuses with over the years.
The SunSun´s where less than a year old when they started to leak.
I think your wrong... your forgetting the prestige and shines badge
You can feel better buy spending more
To be honest, had Fluval an JBL. Premium brands. Both leak. Gaskets are not made buy Fluval. They are made by the gasket companies
Lol I'd be willing to bet they get the gaskets from the same supplier as SunSun.
try FX6 and you will know whatis the difference between your sunsun. Lol
Why? If the SunSun works, I don't see the point in spending 3 times the money.
if you want High nitrates and high ammonia get yourself a canister filter
How so? I don't have any ammonia. Ever. And my nitrates are only as high as I let them them get between water changes.
@@DanHiteshew-oneandonly just from experience!! a sump is better than a canister filter a whole lot quicker to clean. then having a disaster all over the place ..plus canister filters cannot breathe trapping odors and making levels rise
trust me folks anything higher than a 75 gallon tank you want a sumptank!!!
@@FordExplorer420 I've never had problems.
I can see that being the case if you are not putting air into your tank
I learnt nothing from this video 🤷♂️
If you were paying attention, you'd have learned why I use the SunSun instead of the FX6, just like the title says.
@@DanHiteshew-oneandonly you're comparing a filter you use to one you haven't and pretty much base your entire reasoning on price. You could have chosen any filter more expensive than a SunSun to make your point. I knew from the title what filter you used, I learnt nothing from your pointless pricing rant. 🤷♂️
@@53WRX I didn't have a bunch of people recommend other filters. I get told all the time I need to get an FX6. That FX6 can kiss my ass for that price.
@@DanHiteshew-oneandonly Eheim 2260 is the one to recommend, but it has a less popularist following. However the FX6 has almost twice the cycle of the SunSun and superior mechanical filtration and super efficient internal flow with plenty of room for biological media upgrades. The build quality, and accessories are superior in every way to the SunSun. If you like the SunSun that's great but if you look beyond the price and actually look at what can be achieved with a 'high end' canister filter you may feel differently. I agree the fluval is too expensive but it's not so expensive as to make me want to buy a SunSun. The 2260 at even more money is so much better again than the fx6 but the fx6 seems to have found it's place in the market as the go to quality fit and forget canister which to be fair it does really well. 👍if SunSun can copy properly the lid lock system of the fluval fx6 rather than looking like the 407 and redesign a larger internal media capacity with a properly capable pump, they would be onto a winner.