THE TRUTH ABOUT AQUARIUM FILTERS - CANISTERS
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- Опубликовано: 15 май 2019
- Aquarium canister filtration. The truth behind them and how to actually size one to your fish tank.
Over the past 11 years, i have also mentioned rinsing your mechanical sponge in a bucket of tank water so as not to kill the bacteria living on it. While you shouldn't DEPEND on mechanical sponge when you have dedicated bio media to run an aquarium, it of course is considered and plays a role in bio filtration.
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Over the past 11 years, i have also mentioned rinsing your mechanical sponge in a bucket of tank water so as not to kill the bacteria living on it. While you shouldn't DEPEND on mechanical sponge when you have dedicated bio media to run an aquarium, it of course is considered and plays a role in bio filtration.
The king of DIY I love your reviews which one would you suggest on a 50 gallon tank freshwater
The King of DIY hey bro i have one canister filter, Aqua One Aquis 1250 Series II
In the box sais it mantaisn 1400L/h and i have na 300L Aquarium, i think you will like that canister cause i dont have any sponge in there, it comes with 3 big compartments just to put MEDIA i really like that canister
i think u should give it a try
I totally agree
Can you do a video on how to set up the fluval filter or a homemade filter to your aquarium
Sean BRosnan you are asking a question on a comment that talks about the answer.
I have a fx6. Absolutely love it. I didn’t even use the media they sent. I packed it full of different media. Tested the actual flow and it is right at that 560 gph full of dirty sponges and media. One thing to note; to get the best circulation in the aquarium install the intake and output on the same side of the aquarium. This took me a few years in the hobby and some testing to figure out. Aim the output across the tank, it will move the entire top, hit the wall, go down flow across the bottom back to the intake. The water circulation is circulation within the tank is significantly better than putting the 2 on opposite sides of the aquarium
I found the best thing to do for a canister filter is to take some filter floss and a rubber band and put it around the intake. It doesn't necessarily look the best but it'll save you a lot of cleaning from your filter. The filter floss itself will capture most of the mechanical detritis which allows the canister itself to polish the water and clean it.
@@NinjaSushi2 I’ve used pre-filter sponges on my intakes, and they work great, too!
Joey, I truly like and think you should regularly do this kind of true breakdown of heavily produced and marketed aquarium equipment. Yes, please do more of this style of truthful reviews. I have often thought and wished companies would be more truthful about their products rather than trying to hype them with a pile of bullshit. This kind of review of aquarium products is what is truly needed!!!!!! THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Exactly
..man
Fluval and affordable don't belong In the same sentence.
I buy fluval products when there on sale ngl
@@Diego-pf4hy black Friday?
@@NinjaSushi2 Yes, and petsmart has had 15% off on the aqua clear filters this whole summer.
@@Diego-pf4hy yup! Literally just got an FX4 for $145.00 at PetSmart today. No way in hell I’ll buy it for 299.00 lol
@@royy_obs8439 dude 140 for a filter is a huge amount here😢i spent 5$ on a filter for my 7*3*2 pond and still feel like its expensive
I respect you a lot for this video. The bigger you are, the harder it is to speak honesty. You're pretty big and this is as honest as it gets. Great stuff Joey.
I believe that's why Company like Fluval wants you guys experience fish keepers to review, Because when a company wants you to review a product and willing to accept any negative reviews that means they are willing to improve base on those feedbacks, and without any important feedbacks from experience fish keepers that's probably why the product is like this today.
I think u grew a moustache during this rant
Lol
Omg I totally thought it too
More reviews please Joey! People love honesty.
I've been watching you for 2-3 years now, and I think you're one of the most trustworthy fish keepers on RUclips 👍
It's great to have an honest opinion. I use fx4 now on a 75g. Would not go much more then that.
Love my fx4. I use on my 75gal, it does a great job. I also replaced all the sponges in the center and added much more bio. Great vid Joey, hope you follow up on how you customize you fx6!
Now that is a review. I could easily care less about the good things. Tell me all the bad so I can prepare for the worst.
You can’t just disregard the sponge in this filter, or any filter for that matter. All of that sponge provides a tremendous amount of surface area for beneficial bacteria to grow. They aren’t solely mechanical filtration, so it isn’t just 2 little bags of media!
Yep like others have said.... I'd love to see a video on how you would actually setup the filter canister and then setup in your tank.
Just wanted to say I love the new direction of your videos. Going back is really nice. I missed the projects and seeing your hobby and learning to help mine get better. Thank you Joey
Yep I agree. I mentioned it a few times on his other videos. Really miss the DIY stuff.
as i'm looking into getting a canister filter for a new tank this has probably been one of the most important videos i've watched so far!
Thanx Joey. You've helped me make up my mind on what kind of filtration i want in my 100 gallon tank. You always come through for us. I've watched most of your videos for the last 4 yrs. Keep up the good work bro.
Precisely why I appreciate DIY projects. You know exactly what you are getting when you do it yourself! I built my tank stand for my 180g using your build video! Much appreciated!
Joey, you did something a lot of people don’t do, read the book manual.
I personally love you doing reviews because of your honesty! Good, bad or indifferent..
Thanks for your honesty. I never understood why my aquarium was so cloudy even though my canister says it filters more than the tank capacity. Well done!
WHY ARE YOU YELLING AT ME !?
oh hai Mark.
My wife yells at me all the time
I love you honesty and your energy and passion keep up the good work and would love to see more reviews like this but show us how you would change the product as well
Look into pond filtration. Oase, a German company has statistics which prove foam/sponge is the most stable and beneficial biological filtration media, they do aquarium filtration too and it all consists of foam only, maybe a bit of plastic to please people who don’t believe what will be doing most of the work in the filter, most fish store throughout Germany run sumps on their systems with only foam because they too know this, most pond filters contain the same or in some cases less media than canister filters, the only thing that warrants them to work on thousands of litres/gallons is the flow rate of the pump. Stocking should be taken into account when buying canister filters too, for small community fish the filter size issued on the box should be fine, for larger, dirtier fish then half halving that number is necessary. FX4/5/6 also channel water through working like a vortex so a lot of the heavier debris that enters will fall to the bottom without clogging up the sponge as much
I bet it is the most stable but, it also gets clogged the fastest and requires the most maintenance. Imo you'll always be better off filling the entire thing with bio media then attaching a pre filter that is pure sponge. That way you get the best of both worlds and all you need to do is make sure the pre filter is cleaned at least once every 2 weeks.
Green Not trying to sound like a rep but Oase biomasters have a sponge prefilter and almost the entirety of the internal filtration is sponge, the prefilter needs taking out and cleaning in tap water once a week, doing this means you don’t have to open up the canister for about a year, as advised by the manufacturer, pretty easy maintenance of you ask me, obviously not as low maintenance as say fluidised or bead filtration but for a sponge filter it’s pretty good
Thank you for this video!
I have a FX6 filtering my 320 with 50+ cichlids in it. Being new to the hobby (one year) I have been using the filter the entire time, changing the sponges using the minimal media supplied cleaning at every water change. Now is the time to make this thing work the correct way....
Thanks again.
The KING has Returned!! I do enjoy when you get down and dirty about things and you always do it respectfully!! I tell many new hobbyists the same thing. GPH / 2 is what it really supports!
I think this is fair comments. I took the ceramic media out of my canister and replaced with crushed lava rock. The tank took OFF!!!
Mine too.
Lava rock is cheaper , the ceramic media is not bad but they never give you enough.
Very informative. I learned a lot about canisters I never knew. Thanks Joey.
Joey, I totally agree! I have an overstocked 65 gallon with 15 mbuna and one bristle nose. My tank was difficult to keep clean. I have a Fluval 406, a Hydro 80 Gallon sponge filter and a HOB aqua clear for an 110 tank. With all that working plus water changes at least once a week and a vacuum of the substrate and filter sponge cleaning once a month, I finally got my tank clean and yes, Im totally cycled. I listened to you and others and filled my HOB and Fluval 406 with ceramic media! You are great!! Love your videos!
Continue doing what comes to mind Joey, because I didn’t see it as a review. I see you just taught a lot of people about filter that was once blanked to us. Gallery looks great and can’t wait for the next journey.
I can confirm what you said. I have 4 FX6's for a 500 gallon system. DIY plumbed. Have a flow meter connected to output. Get between 500 to 560 gallons per hour per filter. Don't use the round sponges. They just clog it up. I fill the center with lots more ceramic media. Have them hooked up to Alexa enabled home automation electrical plugs for voice control, so that I can turn off filters during feeding, then have them turn back on automatically after 5 minutes. Have cordless impact wrench to loosen and tighten clamps. Have bidet sprayer in fishroom, so that can rinse and clean FX6 housing. I clean the media in the buckets filled with fish tank water. I also have a Drip system. Automated lights, fans, Air pumps, ect. Fishroom is really just for clown loaches.
Keith Allen I’d love to learn more about this set up!
@@UHPhilipA I haven't done any RUclips video's of my fishroom for 8 years. Maybe it's time for an update? Maybe before all my 14 to 20 year old clown loaches start dying of old age.
Joey's coming out with a canister filter with the exact flow rate on the box at a certain head height with the media! I'm buying!
You're the King of DIY and you've proven it! Get that book folks it'll blow your mind!
to be honest, Joey; idc if u do or dont do unboxing or what ever , I'm a fan of what ever u do and love what u love ,...do what u want man and keep it up
Thank you! Setting up my first tank and I'm glad I got the Fluval 407 for my 65g tank. Also glad I'm replacing the majority of the sponges with additional ceramic media!
Use the microscope thing you have to compare the amount of bacteria on the bio ball things compared to sponge from inside a filter.
I think the difference would be surface area, not necessarily bacteria count.
You can see the pasión joey has for his fish manifest in anger here. I appreciate this video s lot, we need more people like you in the hobby joey.
I’ve been thinking about getting rid of my canister and setting up a sump for a while now, but this video helped me decide! Thank you Joey and loved the video!!
Sumps have their own set of problems. Access #1. Filter socks #2. Noise #3. Redundancy #4.
It might be boring to you but i ENJOY seeing the technical parts of an aquarium, you always point out when you like the outputs, or overflows or valves even. Just doing spotlights on a single part is something I enjoy a lot. One of my FAV videos from a while back was looking at different types of filter media and seeing all kinds of options for just one aspect of the aquarium.
It’d be great if you could post a video of how exactly you’d set up your canister filter when you put it to use 👍🏽😁
If you do like you said and give trueful reviews on products then yes I would like to see these type of videos more. True reviews will be helpful to everyone in this hobby, to new comers and old timers.
You know he gets real when he takes out the fine print... Love the passion, good change from feeding fish videos 👍
Joey, the more I watch you, the more I love you and your content. You've inspired me to do so many projects.... Not just with my aquariums either. Your energy and passion are infectious. My wife has even started following my lead now and doing projects on her own.
On the review videos, I would say don't do them unless it's like this video. Do reviews on the technology and the marketing, not the products. Companies will do anything to get people to buy their products, sadly. I've always had a problem with disingenuous marketing.
Family friendly? 😂 In the last video you whipped a hot dog against a tank and asked your catfish if he wanted it! I laughed my ass off! 😂 Go ahead! Tell Fluval how you really feel! 😂😂😂
those adult innuendos are my favorite part of joeys channel. you can tell he wants to make these jokes sometimes and struggles to keep it in. I feel that pain.
He asked the catfish if he wanted this weener - I almost wet myself 😂😂😂
For some weird reason I've been dreaming of hearing him throw out an f bomb, will never happen, sooooo sad! 😭😂😂
He says, “Hey? Hey? You want this wiener? No.” ...as he slaps it against the tank! That’s funny!😂
@@phillips9945 yep that's it - still cracks me up 😂😂😂 It was far too late, here in the UK, to go back and get the exact wording..... but you've made it all the funnier again, thank you x
The ceramic rings in all cannister filters are rubbish plus the way they say it should be set up isn't correct either. Good video again Joey, the gallery is looking so much better than before. Can't wait to see how they look when you decide how your doing each one
Joey I respect you for not cursing on your channel. Good job exposing these canisters
Thanks for the tip! Been in the hobby for less then a year and youre helping me learn all the time!
I really really would like you to talk about how to make plumbing for tank with no hole in it what is the best way and the easiest to make plumbing to the sump
Look up his vid on a pvc overflow. I used his 2nd design on my 65gal with a 10gal sump. Just make sure you put a ball valve in to control the flow
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I am SO pleased you have done this! As you say, it's not Fluval, it's ALL canister filters. I have come to hate them. They killed so many of my fish when I first started out as I believed the "claims" on the box. This obviously resulted in my parameters being really bad even though I was following everything to the letter, being new to the hobby. You NEED to do these types of videos to help new and upcoming hobiests. Also, you have enough respect in the hobby to try and make these companies give better, factual information. Of course, the others thing to bare in mind is that the water is forced through the media, rather than running its way through like on a sump. This means that the maximum amount of bacteria that can be held on the media is never reached.
I almost gave up the hobby because of canister filters. Thank goodness I found you and plunged for a much bigger aquarium and a sump! xx
Thank you for the very important information. I am babysitting my pond fish over winter in a 50 gallon tank and your sizing info is golden.
Joey thanks for the video I honestly didn't know that about canister filters I have a canister "rated" 125 on my 125 gallon African tank I'll definitely be adding more filtration
Edu-tainment thanks Joey ♡♡♡♡ your energy is wonderful keep it up.
It is awesome to see you latest videos. I stop watching for a while. Glad to see you are back to the informational content that I always appreciated seeing.
Thank you! This helps loads. I have a 75g and was wondering why my current filter wasnt taking care of the detritus. And now i understand a heckuva lot more! Thank you, thank you, thank you!
I need to see more of this guy in your videos. Feelin it.
Make a DIY video how to fill fx6 properly for larger tanks, I assume you could replace some sponge to fill up with more bio media or something.
You make it all look so easy.. and afforadable 😂 I'll just tell you huge learning experience, challenges, and joy from this hobby. I've become so addicted to just wanting to upgrade everything non-stop it seems like. Keep up the great work man, and as always love hearing your knowledge, so that someone like me who is new to the hobby can learn. You gallery is looking beautiful by the way.
This makes so much sense😂! I purchased a “200gph” canister to use on my 54 gallon goldfish tank hoping that it would circulate the water 4 times per hour which is definitely necessary for such messy fish. But the flow just hasn’t seemed right after the first day (because the media was clean then). When I eventually upgrade my fish I’m definitely going to make sure I get a canister that can actually pump the water 4 times per hour, I might even get a new canister for this tank anyway 😄. Thanks for educating us on this, I think it’s gonna help me a lot and help others too. I would definitely like to see more videos like this in the future!
So, you're saying that my FX4 isn't going to be enough for my 75 gallon lmao. Ugh... Well, I guess it gives me an idea of why my nitrites and ammonia were a bit high with my Africans. Seeing as to how they also think they're oscars, therefore no plants... Ugh. Again. Thanks man.
I keep marine fish and corals but in the past I’ve used many canister filters and all the sponges are going to get packed with bacteria, that’s why your only supposed to clean 1 tray at a time, hence 3 trays, I do agree there should be extra ceramic media to increase the bacteria capacity and the manuals do tell you they sell it separate to put more in, also the gph on the box is the pump running with media, but not dirty so your technically right but the gph is tested with a media full canister with tubes at typical head height and manufacturer length of tubing in the box :) hope that helps others
I want to see you break down fluidized sumps and explain maybe what you wrote in your book, and I love hearing your opinion about different aquarium equipment. keep it up 👍
Thank you so much for making this video, Joey... I've been using canister filters for over 10 years, and now I know, using them wrong... So when I set up my new filter today, I took most of the excessive amount of sponge out, replacing it with bio media from the out-going filter instead... And all because you educated me...
Thank you, thank you, thank you...
I have Fx4, they are great but all companies lies about filtering capacity. You RIGHT!!!
Sponges are excellent for biological filtration, not just the ceramics
They're not excellent, they're adequate.
Mike Justice But they do the job too in many cases. There’re many long term pros that use simple sponge filters with an air pump and then you have high tech ones and both seem to work. In my opinion, high tech filters are overrated, at least for regular users, and some even have the idea that big complex filters could avoid the water changes, and in my opinion and experience, water changes are much more important than high tech filter on the relevance list.
honestly joey im glad you made this video. was just looking at buying a canister filter for my 120gal
Preach it! People need to know this stuff. Thanks for being informative. It’s about time you weighed in on this topic.
Your overview of hang on back filters would be cool to see
Would love the see the actual flow rate! I have the same filter and have always wondered
You should review filters every now and then. Very helpful video never user canisters filters but have looked into them this was hugely helpful. Keep up the good work, honestly is the best policy,
I've been following your channel for quite some time now & all of your videos are great & informative. Thank YOU!
Hey Joey, would you be willing to run an experiment for a few months and compare a high tech planted tank on a sump vs a canister filter? CO2 concentrations, plant growth, fish survival, etc.?
I’d love to see that video too from Joey or anyone whose qualified!
How come you're not doing the planted tank in the empty tank near your desk? I would think that it would save you from having to move the filter over. Also if you end up needing to use different lighting for that tank, it wouldn't ruin the symmetry you have on the main wall if the planted tank was on the other side of the room. Just a thought.
I have to agree...
Joey, great video! I would be interested in a video about your quarantine process.... Your setups, quarantine times, any treatments, ect. Maybe you could give us a look the next time you pick up some fish!
Thanks!
Get em👏 I really appreciate the honesty because most other RUclipsrs just advertise products for sales instead of true honest reviews. It shows just because a product is marketed everywhere doesn’t mean it’s the best or logical.
Nice video Joey but when will we see the first reef tank :)
Joey. Your opinion means a lot! Thank you.
I really needed this video bc in going to start a planted tank just like you doing and I’m gonna watch and see what u do on yours and set mine up just like yours thank you...... your channel is so helpful
I’ve had mine for 6 months on a 75 and love it. I did have to put their double jet outflow on it to move the entire 48” of surface tho and I had to buy another hose to COMFORTABLY make the connections. I haven’t used the water changer either 🤣 Cool video really informative.
Pretty sure the nitro bacteria aren't really picky about where they set up camp. Most any exposed surface in said 400g tank will ultimately be populated with our little friends, no?
Agreed. I use mostly just sponges and floss in my filters instead of adding bioballs or what not.
They provide extra filtration and are easilly rinsed for future use.
This is a damn good video thank you Joey!
I really dig how passionate you got in this video
Really good video , i have 2 fx6 on my 7ft tank , was pleased i set them up with extra media needed , would love go to sump but not sure how to do that as base has 4 cuboards rather than 2 bigger ones so not big enough
What about all of the bacteria that grows in the sponges...
Right!? If sponges don't grow bacterial well why do sponge filters work so well!?!?!? Sounds like someone is biomedia brainwashed... I barely use any biomedia and never have ammonia/nitrite issues
I pondered the same thing while watching.
Is there that much more bio capacity on ceramic compared to a sponge?
Perhaps the choice for ceramic over a sponge has something to do with not needing to clean/ change the ceramic filter, and therefore not loosing as much bacteria during the cleaning?
THE RANT I WAS WAITING FOR
Thankyou Joey. One of those “always on my my mind topics” and basically was on the right path. Hearing it from you confirms.
Great video thank you for sharing really excited to tag along with this planted tank and how your going to set everything up.
for the price that these filters cost vs the cost of actual manufacturing there is no reason not to include more media
Sponges grow beneficial bacteria too!!! There are literally filters that are just sponges with an air line run to them that do great at keeping a healthy tank. They've been around for decades.
It was verrrrryyyyy useful for me..(like always)..thank you joeyy!
Glad to hear the review. It's not you're thing but the community really looks forward to seeing your opinion AND helping us be informed
hey joey, just want to know if you can use a canister filter as pre filter?
you could always get a piece of sponge material and place it on the intake
There are prefilter canister filters that you put in line with a filter. They only have corse foam. That way you only need to clean that small filter instead of the whole (big) filter.
Joey how about talking about how you can improve the canister filter. What biological media should I purchase to improve it.
He talked about that the whole video..
Best on the market these days by far is the seachem matrix has the best surface are of all media out there and as Joey mentioned the inner compartments can be filled with it easily giving you a large area to raise those beneficial bacteria also bio media doesent need washing just a gentle rinse once in a while to remove dirt
Liked your video!! I think these type of videos can help us look right through stuff. I will look forward to see more these in future.
Hi I like your videos on how to use things properly. I just put more fluval bio balls in my FX 6. Please keep up the great information videos. Thanks for the inspiration and enthusiasm!
First truly beneficial video I’ve seen from this channel in a long time. Kudos sir.
Every video of joey is beneficial or educational in some way or the other..🙂✌️
honestly he has to put out content to be relevant but how much diy can you do? the rest is just filler to keep you obtained. not his fault
@@EngineInformant Checkout his older videos on RUclips..✌️
How good are those small hang on back or in tank filters if it’s a small tank (assuming
Upvote pls answer lol
Phil H I have a 30 gallon with a fluval/aqua clear hob 50 gallon replace the charcoal with an extra sponge so the filter is two sponges and a bag of bio media and my tank is always crystal clear
Double your tank capacity and use that size HOB filter. for your 25, get one rated at 50-75 gal. Also, look at Joey's DIY media videos for options that vastly outperform the filter cartridges included.
Modify it
Good vid. Learnt all this stuff years ago but over time one tends to forget bits and pieces. Thanks.
Glad you discussed this, I just got an 8' 300g acrylic tank that I was just trying to figure out filtration for. I thought about adding an FX6 to the SunSun HW-404B I already have on the 100g I'm going to replace for the 300g. Turns out instead of sumping it, I'm most likely going to do a pond style 55g drum using matala mat and a regular sump pump to power it.
Fluval be like “ that SOB “
Aren't the canister and hoses totaly filled with water making a siphon. If so shouldn't the water being forced down counter act the amount of force to needed to move it back up?
Because both ends of the hose are in the same tank, there's no difference in pressure between the input and output, or not significant enough to get water circulating through the filter. Good question though
afaik even with a full siphon, the pump still needs to work harder to pump water higher. i dont think the physics with head pressure differ with canisters but I could be wrong.
Then the gradual build up of waste also has an affect on the flow rate.
Fantastic info.I run a older FX5 on my 220 going on 7 or 8 yrs now and a wet dry system the canister keep the sponges along with charcoal in the trayz the other keeps all the bio and and different sizes of foam filters and between the 2 set ups has worked well for my tank
God, your new gallery looks amazing...Im LOVING IT! Great Content Joey.