I don't get it? you don't actually HAVE to pedal it right? it just has to have operable pedals. not really much of an inconvenience then unless i'm misunderstanding
Thanks for your quick thoughts on the pedal system. I received my X model the other day and haven’t really been able to ride it much due to the rain. I might actually pick it up and have it available for when I use it on hard trails for bikes and throw the pegs on for off road riding. I know it isn’t a quick swap, but it would be nice to be able too.
I will buy with pedals because looks more like a bike .and make the police think twice if they stop me ...also like a plan B in case the battery die [you never know]
Some have added a fake (read non functional) pedal kit to the Sur-Ron so it looks more like a bike. With the pedals it can pass as an e-bike is the thinking. They can also be registered as a legal mo-ped. Thanks for the post.
Great review! I’m looking into a Sur Ron to commute. And am gonna need pedals to get incompetent military police from making life unnecessarily difficult. 😂
Thanks for vid, but would have been nice to hear what it's like to pedal with it, how does it feel pedaling at too speed, how do gear shifts happen with the pedaling, etc
yes the pedal system is behind the middle half, by like 6 inches or more. based on basic mountain bike charts etc. this is so far out its comical. the pedals were never designed to be on the Sur-Ron. its a Electric motoped not a electric mountain bike. people who cant see it that way are blind to the truth
BikeStuff actually completed the project yesterday and moved the seat back 5.5” from original position. No modification to the bike. Simply put, I used a strip of metal, bolted in factory points, then bolts the seat to that. Makes it a MUCH better riding position with the pedal kit.
@Christoph Lam can't provide a video right now, as I am now at work (bike at home), but I have uploaded a few pictures to my google drive account. In addition to moving it back 5.5", i also have now since raised it up a little over 3". The mod is still completely removable and uses only items found at Home Depot and bolts. It is NOT pretty, but very functional lol and really saved me from selling the bike. There are pictures in that album of just moved back 5.5” and then how I raised it up.
@@tenors001 yeah it works. Thanks for that. Hopefully the higher bending stress on this seat mounting frame (the black part of the frame) isn't too big. Is your raised handle bar also 3" higher than the standard one? You could even think of adding a second battery or kind of a box (you could carry your charger in that) instead of this angular brackets for raising the seat. I really like your idea but you are right about the Look!!
Hey do you know if it’s possible to add pedal assist to the Surron, Segway, or Talaria? I would love to find a way to get a workout while riding. Thanks
Yes you can! I don't own them myself, but everyone says these are great if you want that kind of thing. They're are a few different versions to choose from. www.kaniwaba.com/product-page/power-pedal-kit-v3-0-for-sur-ron-segway-x
Hey, great video, I’m from Iowa too! I’ve been looking into the Surron, and I was wondering if you think I would have any trouble legally riding this on the streets in the Des Moines area? Thanks
That's awesome! No, I haven't had any problems this far writing it on the road. I recommend watching my update video about it though. ruclips.net/video/83UcMbRcAYs/видео.html
Do the pedals function well enough that they'd work to get back if you were to run out of battery in a remote area. Or are they more for aesthetics, and you'd just as well walk it back to your starting point?
just ride the thing with pegs, this is pointless, any cop whos going to go out of their way to pull you over on an emoto or an ebike is going to get you for having illegal amounts of power anyways, it doesn't matter if you put it into a street legal 'mode', if it makes more than 1000w it's not legal 99/100 times
@@johannbach1903 i've been riding at 4000w for 7 years and i've never once been pulled over, i've gotten thumbs up from motorcycle cops the entire point of my post was that these pedals are useless, add weight, and you're probably not going to get pulled over anyways and if you did these would not be a deterrent to a cop in any way shape or form your comparison to terrorist and cartel members is fucking duuuumb lol
@@derelictdogma and you saying that pedals won't keep pigs away is dumb. You obviously don't live near shit bag officers OR you are a Trumptard. Either way there's a REASON a majority of riders in the US add pedals, because PIGS WILL harass riders.
In the USA. Mostly 0 problems here. I've never see or heard of anyone getting pulled over for riding these bikes unless the riding is doing something stupid
@@electricisbetter thanks for your fast response!. Would you say they are suitable for emergency use? I might still order the bike with them just for regulations
Not yet. They only one 1 sticker pattern that goes with the orange color for this bike. Still thinking if I should but one or not. www.ebay.com/itm/MX-Graphics-Kit-Custom-Stickers-Decal-for-Sur-Ron-Light-Bee-X-Electric-Dirt-Bike/153424274856?hash=item23b8cca5a8:m:mrAX3MdgTzHmeWg6lKkahuA
I am dumb. Can you tell me what you search for to find the longer chain needed to fit around both the larger sprocket and the pedal kit? I don't understand what kind of chain I am looking for.
This would be the chain your looking for. It just needs to be 420 in size! www.amazon.com/RK-Racing-Chain-GB420MXZ-110-Connecting/dp/B000GTXT0S/ref=pd_sim_263_1
You are also an idiot. Cannot believe you bought this and thought you would never have to do any chain work. All vehicles require maintenance, some more than others, but all will need it from time to time.
You are also an idiot. Cannot believe you bought this and thought you would never have to do any chain work. All vehicles require maintenance, some more than others, but all will need it from time to time.
You are also an idiot. Cannot believe you bought this and thought you would never have to do any chain work. All vehicles require maintenance, some more than others, but all will need it from time to time.
How so ? Im in Quebec and I checked the laws . For it it to be considered an e-bike it has to do 32km/h or less , have sticker of compliance of some sort and be 500 watt or less . This e-bike is way too powerful, but idk what would happen if you got stopped, how the hell are they gonna check your top speed unless they see you go faster than 32km/h.
@@J_Sparrow Program it so that you can easily switch to a 500W mode with a speed limited to 32kmh and if you have a ERT NXT display, you can even show the cop that its limited to 500w. But honestly if you see a cop and start pedalling and lower your speed, they shouldnt stop you in the first place
If the bike would have some kind of gears added (Nuvinci 171 or rohloff speedhub) (should withstand 5000w, but input torque limit problem) and a freewheel added to the motor, would the position of the seat(maybe shifted to the back as @@UCrnaMIdDXMqI2utyCEN4ucQ said) and the position of the pedals (maybe diy mountied to the frame instead of the swing arm mounting) allow a comfort ride for a 1.80-1.9m tall driver or is really that uncomfortable to ride? Has anyone tried a different mounting position of a diy pedal kit and also maybe with torque sensing pedals and added a cycle analyst to simulate the throttle on the bike? Greetings from Austria
I get it it's not practical to pedal it but by adding it it becomes an electric bike and tiptoes around the legal issues
I don't get it? you don't actually HAVE to pedal it right? it just has to have operable pedals. not really much of an inconvenience then unless i'm misunderstanding
Thanks for your quick thoughts on the pedal system. I received my X model the other day and haven’t really been able to ride it much due to the rain. I might actually pick it up and have it available for when I use it on hard trails for bikes and throw the pegs on for off road riding. I know it isn’t a quick swap, but it would be nice to be able too.
I will buy with pedals because looks more like a bike .and make the police think twice if they stop me ...also like a plan B in case the battery die [you never know]
Some have added a fake (read non functional) pedal kit to the Sur-Ron so it looks more like a bike. With the pedals it can pass as an e-bike is the thinking. They can also be registered as a legal mo-ped. Thanks for the post.
A moped requires insurance and registration and licensing fees. A bike doesn't !
Where do you get the fake ones?
I want your bike dude. 😂 I’m getting one and getting the peddle kit so the police leave me alone
Wouldn’t a non o ring chain be more appropriate, a lot less drag.
Great review!
I’m looking into a Sur Ron to commute. And am gonna need pedals to get incompetent military police from making life unnecessarily difficult. 😂
Thanks for vid, but would have been nice to hear what it's like to pedal with it, how does it feel pedaling at too speed, how do gear shifts happen with the pedaling, etc
watchNcarry gear shifts ??? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Can you have the pedals for legal issues and still have the pegs on and flipped uo
Does this pedal kit also make them compliant in California?
so do the pedals spin without having to pedal
They free spin and coast
Ya. That is one issue I dont like with the Sur-ron beside no plug n play turn signals compared to the Onyx RCR where there is no issue with the pedals
Wait, so its not electric assisted pedaling? So, you have to pedal around a 100lb bike?
Random Person what part of “it’s for compliance” don’t you understand
Thanks for the vid. One questions, if you are going to register it as a moped then, this means you also have to get moped license ?
yes the pedal system is behind the middle half, by like 6 inches or more. based on basic mountain bike charts etc. this is so far out its comical. the pedals were never designed to be on the Sur-Ron. its a Electric motoped not a electric mountain bike. people who cant see it that way are blind to the truth
BikeStuff actually completed the project yesterday and moved the seat back 5.5” from original position. No modification to the bike. Simply put, I used a strip of metal, bolted in factory points, then bolts the seat to that. Makes it a MUCH better riding position with the pedal kit.
@@tenors001 Could you provide some pictures or even a video of riding it in that position?
@Christoph Lam can't provide a video right now, as I am now at work (bike at home), but I have uploaded a few pictures to my google drive account. In addition to moving it back 5.5", i also have now since raised it up a little over 3". The mod is still completely removable and uses only items found at Home Depot and bolts. It is NOT pretty, but very functional lol and really saved me from selling the bike. There are pictures in that album of just moved back 5.5” and then how I raised it up.
Christoph Lam drive.google.com/drive/folders/1WDGBb3QbufrZg70_SUnwh_dCzix5hTaq let me know if this link works
@@tenors001 yeah it works. Thanks for that. Hopefully the higher bending stress on this seat mounting frame (the black part of the frame) isn't too big. Is your raised handle bar also 3" higher than the standard one? You could even think of adding a second battery or kind of a box (you could carry your charger in that) instead of this angular brackets for raising the seat. I really like your idea but you are right about the Look!!
Hey do you know if it’s possible to add pedal assist to the Surron, Segway, or Talaria? I would love to find a way to get a workout while riding. Thanks
Yes you can! I don't own them myself, but everyone says these are great if you want that kind of thing. They're are a few different versions to choose from. www.kaniwaba.com/product-page/power-pedal-kit-v3-0-for-sur-ron-segway-x
that chain looks really tight
Hey, great video, I’m from Iowa too! I’ve been looking into the Surron, and I was wondering if you think I would have any trouble legally riding this on the streets in the Des Moines area? Thanks
That's awesome! No, I haven't had any problems this far writing it on the road. I recommend watching my update video about it though. ruclips.net/video/83UcMbRcAYs/видео.html
When using in electric mode do the pedals still spin? Or can then still be used as footpegs
They are used like footpegs
waiting on mine in the mail... do the pedals spin out of control when your going fast?
No, that would be insane. There is a one way bearing in there.
did the pedal kit holled on? i saw a video fron a guy how instaled it and he said the gear broke after 4 rides..
So how many link chain do you need with the 42 tooth and pedal kit? Also no kick stand ?
what you say about 48 tooth, What options you have when you buy. And how is faster in eletric mode
It comes with a 48 tooth. However, Luna sells 60 tooth and a 25 tooth.
@@electricisbetter But on witch one is fastest at top speed ???
@@itsmylife4fucksake if you're looking to make it faster look into BAC4000 72V battery
More teeth more top speed and less acceleration. Less teeth do opposite high acceleration but lower top speed
This is like the California fin grip law for guns!
What size rider does the Sur Ron best accommodate? Look kinda small if you are over 6ft.
Do the pedals function well enough that they'd work to get back if you were to run out of battery in a remote area. Or are they more for aesthetics, and you'd just as well walk it back to your starting point?
They are just for looks.
Did u hit jumps or any off road on the pedal kit? I know they are cheap but not sure if they will just break or strip out easily.
Yes they are cheap. I won't go over any jumps with them
just ride the thing with pegs, this is pointless, any cop whos going to go out of their way to pull you over on an emoto or an ebike is going to get you for having illegal amounts of power anyways, it doesn't matter if you put it into a street legal 'mode', if it makes more than 1000w it's not legal 99/100 times
Pigs have nothing better to do. Because people on ebikes are sooooo bad. Almost as bad as any terrorist or cartel member.
@@johannbach1903 i've been riding at 4000w for 7 years and i've never once been pulled over, i've gotten thumbs up from motorcycle cops
the entire point of my post was that these pedals are useless, add weight, and you're probably not going to get pulled over anyways and if you did these would not be a deterrent to a cop in any way shape or form
your comparison to terrorist and cartel members is fucking duuuumb lol
@@derelictdogma and you saying that pedals won't keep pigs away is dumb. You obviously don't live near shit bag officers OR you are a Trumptard. Either way there's a REASON a majority of riders in the US add pedals, because PIGS WILL harass riders.
@@johannbach1903
F you and your pig references..🖕🖕
@@richardstevens5961 fuck them dirty swine's! I'm a USMC veteran & those pigs can suck on my BALLSACK. Pigs are pussies.
I cut the green wire for the speed limit and the speedometer only reads up to 45km/h
Connect it back
25km/h in eco mode what speed it will be in sport mode?
Thank you
where are you located geographically? im in canada so i was wondering if you had any problems when riding it out around town, thanks
In the USA. Mostly 0 problems here. I've never see or heard of anyone getting pulled over for riding these bikes unless the riding is doing something stupid
Are these pedals usable? If your battery runs out.. could you pedal your way back home? If so, how do they feel in regards to the bike weight?.
They work but not very well. If you'd ask me now looking back id say dont get them.
@@electricisbetter thanks for your fast response!. Would you say they are suitable for emergency use? I might still order the bike with them just for regulations
No decals and no pedals, I’d rather be in jail
Did you ever get a sticker kit? And do you have a link to them? Great reviews, ride safe Brother!
Not yet. They only one 1 sticker pattern that goes with the orange color for this bike. Still thinking if I should but one or not. www.ebay.com/itm/MX-Graphics-Kit-Custom-Stickers-Decal-for-Sur-Ron-Light-Bee-X-Electric-Dirt-Bike/153424274856?hash=item23b8cca5a8:m:mrAX3MdgTzHmeWg6lKkahuA
Will black chain fit with original sprocket
I saw another video where the person stated that the pedal kit was noisy. What do you think?
It is a bit noiser with the pedal kit on it. There is another gear the chain has to go around and you also will hear the ticking of the mechanism.
Too much talking and no demonstration of you pedaling the bike. Talk less and demo more in the future.
link for pedals?
Can one ride these on an MTB trail... without getting kicked out or cussed out ?
Probably not.
Sonic Riders 😒
Does the pedal kit work with the belt kit from Luna?
No it doesn't. The pedal kit only works with sprockets.
@@electricisbetter Just take the front sprocket off of the pedal kit and run either the stock chain or the belt
I am dumb. Can you tell me what you search for to find the longer chain needed to fit around both the larger sprocket and the pedal kit? I don't understand what kind of chain I am looking for.
This would be the chain your looking for. It just needs to be 420 in size! www.amazon.com/RK-Racing-Chain-GB420MXZ-110-Connecting/dp/B000GTXT0S/ref=pd_sim_263_1
You are also an idiot. Cannot believe you bought this and thought you would never have to do any chain work. All vehicles require maintenance, some more than others, but all will need it from time to time.
You are also an idiot. Cannot believe you bought this and thought you would never have to do any chain work. All vehicles require maintenance, some more than others, but all will need it from time to time.
You are also an idiot. Cannot believe you bought this and thought you would never have to do any chain work. All vehicles require maintenance, some more than others, but all will need it from time to time.
what is the difference with the sur ron light bee and the light bee X?
The X controller
X controller being the better controller of the two.
sound is quite muffled.
Informative but not demonstrative. How hard would be to show us ay list by sitting on a bike.
Hey. How does the bike handle rain? Wet weather in general?
I've gotta it very wet, muddy and covered in snow before and its a very well sealed bike as far as water goes!
How many links did you have to add?
He said 2.
otherwise ok. I am hard of hearing.
Is this legal to ride in mtb trails in california?
Robie Osborne who cares
Need Pedal Kit 4 no licence in
Québec Canada 😎.👍 😉
How so ? Im in Quebec and I checked the laws . For it it to be considered an e-bike it has to do 32km/h or less , have sticker of compliance of some sort and be 500 watt or less . This e-bike is way too powerful, but idk what would happen if you got stopped, how the hell are they gonna check your top speed unless they see you go faster than 32km/h.
@@J_Sparrow Program it so that you can easily switch to a 500W mode with a speed limited to 32kmh and if you have a ERT NXT display, you can even show the cop that its limited to 500w. But honestly if you see a cop and start pedalling and lower your speed, they shouldnt stop you in the first place
lololol... pedal kit is in fact ...$125.00 to install....do it yurself
If the bike would have some kind of gears added (Nuvinci 171 or rohloff speedhub) (should withstand 5000w, but input torque limit problem) and a freewheel added to the motor, would the position of the seat(maybe shifted to the back as @@UCrnaMIdDXMqI2utyCEN4ucQ said) and the position of the pedals (maybe diy mountied to the frame instead of the swing arm mounting) allow a comfort ride for a 1.80-1.9m tall driver or is really that uncomfortable to ride? Has anyone tried a different mounting position of a diy pedal kit and also maybe with torque sensing pedals and added a cycle analyst to simulate the throttle on the bike? Greetings from Austria
The pedal kit SUCKS ASS!!??