Just letting people know that when he says that he was “arrested” he means that the police stopped and asked questions. Just a quirk of French/English translation.
With the pedal setup I see you have to keep the chain pretty snug or it's going to slip. But the downside is too tight of a drive chain will wear out parts, chain or break. It's better to be on the loose side and have the chain to pop off and replace if chain gets bent from coming off. Also running too tight will cost you friction and power. On my motorized bike I put it together with no instructions because it didn't have any instructions when they first come out. So I called many of motorcycle and ATV places and ask them what is the minimum to maximum drive chain slack. And they all said over all it's better to be too loose than too tight. And they told me what I said earlier. And they give me a rough idea what the chain slack should be. Mine is a hybrid bicycle pedal power, gasoline 4 stroke engine or both. When I had the drive chain to snug I couldn't pedal it 12 foot. When I loosened the chain and the top chain slack measurement had .500" min. - 1.850" max. chain slack. I could pedal on flat ground and up some steep short hills it really made a difference. For security I need to make a long handle chain security back wheel lock tensioner so no one can ride or drive off or push bike away without picking up the back wheel or carrying it. A motorized bike is just like a bicycle but on the left side sitting on the bike it has the motor jack shaft and rear sprocket but it only has a solid roller plastic wheel adjustment the drive chain rides on from the factory no spring loaded roller chain tensioner adjuster. I let the chain get too much slack in it once and dropped off a curb and the chain popped off. luckily I was able to put chain back on and ride for many more months. until I let chain get to much to much chain slack again chain come off and bent the chain so I just got another chain. It's a lot easier to replace the chain from being too loose. than the sprockets, Jack shaft, chain, clutch and everything touching the chain from chain to tight. But these electric motorcycles go a lot faster more chain friction wear so you probably want to keep less chain slack and by the manual specification book. I'm thinking about something with some more power possibly. but I would rather have a four-stroke with a long exhaust with a few mufflers to keep it quiet, bicycle pedal power for exercise and to keep it under the category of a bicycle. so I don't have to have license, taxes, tags for life. I know more things are leaning towards electric power but I just wonder if these electric bikes sort of like electric cars will be worth fixing and lasts for many years like old motorcycles that have lasted for one's lifetime. I've seen the videos the electric bikes are faster and not even allowed at some tracks because they have the winning competitive edge. But with better and better technology like stereo equipment, electric cars, cell phones will the older electric motorcycle - bicycles be thrown away for newer technology at a cheaper price? Or will the electric motor be replaced back with a gasoline engine down the road?
I went back and watched the talaria video slowly and yes the gearbox is in place of the jackshaft... so no kaniwaba pedal kits unless maybe you did just electronic pedal kit with no power pedal I think that may work as long as the bracket sizes are the same and the width... otherwise this will be the only pedal kit option for the talaria, again tho is it the same width would the surron version like this be the same as the talaria version like this??? You can maybe do some type of double sprocket and then the power pedal kit would maybe work... just some ideas
sprocket centerline is same as swing arm pivot - less slack needed than regular MC - 12 mm or 1/2 inch nice design but hassle to change front sprocket - keep chain lubed - makes big difference
Hi man loved the video super helpful but can u write the specs of the Segway x160 like the real range not 40 miles and the speeds in different modes can u tell me all those specs pls
i have a question that I really need to be answered. can you pedal it and be legal then be able to still throttle like normal. basically, i want to pedal it along a road and then when at the trail stop pedaling and use the throttle like the normal sur-on can I do this?
Also where did you buy yours from was it motorino in vancouver Or did you get yours from epic cycles here in ontario? Whats your top speed and stuff have u not cut the cable to remove the limit?
Cool iv never saw this feature "in action" before. Now how when you use the motor ? This could turn so fast ? the system must be dismantled to use the engine or just the pedals?
Do you think the pedal kit is worth it and ideal to have for legitimacy & does it ride much different then having just the pegs on it ? I’m out west in Canada and wanting to ride the paths and mountain bike trails, I’m thinking it’s best to get a pedal kit to cause less attention, or is it even really worth it ya figure, as you’ve had one ? Also I’ve heard it’s a bit louder with the peddle kit on vs pegs on. Thx
Really? If you get caught riding these on MTB in the S2S corridor you will probably get your ass kicked. All that trail work destroyed by douchebags like yourself. Stick to DB trails
So if I add pedal system, does that keep me at a class #2 so I'm not required to have insurance, license and can ride it on side of road and bike paths? Or do I still have to keep this at class #3 ( moped class)
You got arrested twice for riding this bike? Dang lol I’m from Alberta canada and have been thinking about getting one but I don’t know if it’s worth getting arrested over haha
Allo , je suis du Canada aussi . Et jaimerai etre en contact . Jaimerai avoir de linfo pour un achat dun Surron et comment toute marche pour etre legal.
Salut mon gars... jai entendu ton accent et jme suis dit que tu etais probablement quebecois. Je suis un jeune de 20 ans et je serais super interesser de macheter un surron... pourquoi a tu mis les pedal? Est-ce pour raison legale? Jaimerais aussi en savoir plus sur les legalite sur la route dun surron au quebec AVEC des pedale
What do you mean its blocked at 168 these are 6000 watts lol im in canada and gettin one tomoro and they do 80kmh so what are you talking about no 500 watt motor does that speed
If you dont cut the wire its locked i made a switch so if i get arrested they see its only going 20km i bought from epic cycle i already sold the bike wasnt really worth the money maybe if it drop in the low 4k later on
@@Adampage69 its about 75 and thats with zero upgrades if you switch to a 45 sprocket fornthe chain or to belt drive that right away adds 5-7 kmh and then the bac controller and lightning batteries can get these going over 140
can anyone share a link to where I can find compatible pedals and pedal arms please? they're too much just for legality on the website so I need an alternative. thank you!
What is the chain number, I am thinking could it be a motorcycle chain? Some of the Chinese chains are made with low quality steel and will break/stretch. I've had a lot of trouble with the 415 chain on a 212cc motorbike with chain stretch and breakage. I ended up putting a #11 Japanese chain on it and have never had problems with chain stretch or breakage.
@@vishwasivapalan8881 you should call your local pd give them the info explain that the bike power is limited to 187w and 26kmph they will prob tell you they follow canadian law and if so you should be good
Just letting people know that when he says that he was “arrested” he means that the police stopped and asked questions. Just a quirk of French/English translation.
It’s so funny because for the past hour I’ve been going off the internet picture for this SAME BIKE figuring out how this would be possible.
Fait plaisir de voir une plaque je me souviens et un accent familier!
Does the throttle still work when you have the pedal kit? Can I have the pedal kit on it and still go at the fastest speed it goes with the pegs?
absolutely yes
Thx man I was trying to find out too
@@Adampage69 can u use the throttle and not pedal
With the pedal setup I see you have to keep the chain pretty snug or it's going to slip. But the downside is too tight of a drive chain will wear out parts, chain or break. It's better to be on the loose side and have the chain to pop off and replace if chain gets bent from coming off. Also running too tight will cost you friction and power. On my motorized bike I put it together with no instructions because it didn't have any instructions when they first come out. So I called many of motorcycle and ATV places and ask them what is the minimum to maximum drive chain slack. And they all said over all it's better to be too loose than too tight. And they told me what I said earlier. And they give me a rough idea what the chain slack should be. Mine is a hybrid bicycle pedal power, gasoline 4 stroke engine or both. When I had the drive chain to snug I couldn't pedal it 12 foot. When I loosened the chain and the top chain slack measurement had .500" min. - 1.850" max. chain slack. I could pedal on flat ground and up some steep short hills it really made a difference. For security I need to make a long handle chain security back wheel lock tensioner so no one can ride or drive off or push bike away without picking up the back wheel or carrying it. A motorized bike is just like a bicycle but on the left side sitting on the bike it has the motor jack shaft and rear sprocket but it only has a solid roller plastic wheel adjustment the drive chain rides on from the factory no spring loaded roller chain tensioner adjuster. I let the chain get too much slack in it once and dropped off a curb and the chain popped off. luckily I was able to put chain back on and ride for many more months. until I let chain get to much to much chain slack again chain come off and bent the chain so I just got another chain. It's a lot easier to replace the chain from being too loose. than the sprockets, Jack shaft, chain, clutch and everything touching the chain from chain to tight. But these electric motorcycles go a lot faster more chain friction wear so you probably want to keep less chain slack and by the manual specification book. I'm thinking about something with some more power possibly. but I would rather have a four-stroke with a long exhaust with a few mufflers to keep it quiet, bicycle pedal power for exercise and to keep it under the category of a bicycle. so I don't have to have license, taxes, tags for life. I know more things are leaning towards electric power but I just wonder if these electric bikes sort of like electric cars will be worth fixing and lasts for many years like old motorcycles that have lasted for one's lifetime. I've seen the videos the electric bikes are faster and not even allowed at some tracks because they have the winning competitive edge. But with better and better technology like stereo equipment, electric cars, cell phones will the older electric motorcycle - bicycles be thrown away for newer technology at a cheaper price? Or will the electric motor be replaced back with a gasoline engine down the road?
I went back and watched the talaria video slowly and yes the gearbox is in place of the jackshaft... so no kaniwaba pedal kits unless maybe you did just electronic pedal kit with no power pedal I think that may work as long as the bracket sizes are the same and the width... otherwise this will be the only pedal kit option for the talaria, again tho is it the same width would the surron version like this be the same as the talaria version like this??? You can maybe do some type of double sprocket and then the power pedal kit would maybe work... just some ideas
Fantastic! Thank you so much!
I've heard other people say not to make the chain very tight but have a little slack in it like one inch or so. I don't know what way is right
sprocket centerline is same as swing arm pivot -
less slack needed than regular MC - 12 mm or 1/2 inch
nice design but hassle to change front sprocket -
keep chain lubed - makes big difference
I’m considering using that shaft and cranks and mounting them where the pegs go
Hi man loved the video super helpful but can u write the specs of the Segway x160 like the real range not 40 miles and the speeds in different modes can u tell me all those specs pls
Does the pedal kit come stock? I didn't see it as an option, only the belt drive.
you have to buy it seperate
i have a question that I really need to be answered. can you pedal it and be legal then be able to still throttle like normal. basically, i want to pedal it along a road and then when at the trail stop pedaling and use the throttle like the normal sur-on can I do this?
Yes
Hello,my surron with pedals make bipbipbibip when I go faster than 10mph.Do you know why pls.Tks.Robert
Гениальная идея))
Can I use this to commute to work sharing the road with other cars ? Does it require a license ?
What's the Eco mode or EP mode top speed? Cool video by the way!
50 kmh 30 mph
Omds wow
Is I t legal to ride on footpath or bike tracks with pedals?
Cool. Your chain is a little tight.
How did you assemble the pedals, will a local bike or motercycle stores be able to assemble this?
Thankss
there is a spot un the bike where you can screw the pedal drive train its really simple about 10 min instalation
Is it an official modification ? Like the supermoto kit
non cest luna cycle qui vend le pedalier a part
@@Adampage69 OK merci 👍
Also where did you buy yours from was it motorino in vancouver Or did you get yours from epic cycles here in ontario? Whats your top speed and stuff have u not cut the cable to remove the limit?
Does having the peddle system installed effect the top speed of the bike
If it does it not noticeable
Cool iv never saw this feature "in action" before. Now how when you use the motor ? This could turn so fast ? the system must be dismantled to use the engine or just the pedals?
Freewheel
Do you think the pedal kit is worth it and ideal to have for legitimacy & does it ride much different then having just the pegs on it ? I’m out west in Canada and wanting to ride the paths and mountain bike trails, I’m thinking it’s best to get a pedal kit to cause less attention, or is it even really worth it ya figure, as you’ve had one ? Also I’ve heard it’s a bit louder with the peddle kit on vs pegs on.
Thx
I’m in US and I ended up ordering without the pedals. Might end up ordering and installing my self later.
It’s so quiet it’s doesn’t matter, just be safe
Really? If you get caught riding these on MTB in the S2S corridor you will probably get your ass kicked. All that trail work destroyed by douchebags like yourself. Stick to DB trails
So if I add pedal system, does that keep me at a class #2 so I'm not required to have insurance, license and can ride it on side of road and bike paths? Or do I still have to keep this at class #3 ( moped class)
are you factory reduce to 20mph?
Ima be frank if you buy this to do street riding this is not the bike your looking for
Where did you get your pedal arms? I can't find any that will fit online.
A local bike shop they cost 100$ but its a must have
@@Adampage69 Perfect thank you. I will keep asking around. The stock ones are junk and have bent on me already. Thanks for sharing.
@@JasonEd7 YEP happen to me too haha
You got arrested twice for riding this bike? Dang lol I’m from Alberta canada and have been thinking about getting one but I don’t know if it’s worth getting arrested over haha
He meant pulled over, he was not ticketed.
ya like what @fishingtwister said im like 90% sure he meant pulled over
Quick question cause the pedals are geared so low do they slip out easier when your going fast?
no the only bad thing is that they are a bit futher back on the bike so you need to sit back
I pre-oredered with the pedal kit. I suppose if I want to take on dirt jumps I could get pegs and remove cranks as needed. Easy swap correct? Thanks
yes maybe a chain .420 aswell for the difference in lenght
@@Adampage69 What do you mean?
DID U order from Luna? Did u receive ur bike yet?
Would think you could just remove the arms leave everything else. Put the pegs on good to go..
Brilliant. Thanks.
this bike comes without pedals stock? how hard is it to set the pedals up?
helou ... I want to ask you have a rear tire ... what is the size and type of tire when you buy it ... thank you for the answer
is it true with the pedal system you can not exceed a certain speed or have can drive the speed you want ??? tanks
Are you GSP? 😆👍
Adam I have an o ring chain and a 52" sprocket. Will this kit work with that?
Yes no problem
You mean you got stopped by the police not arrested right? Maybe just confused words, good video bonjour from Vancouver.
Yes stopped they where impressed by the bike and kinda confused
Allo , je suis du Canada aussi . Et jaimerai etre en contact . Jaimerai avoir de linfo pour un achat dun Surron et comment toute marche pour etre legal.
Ebikezilla a quebec et jai un video qui explique sur ma chaine
Which chain is that please?
Nice video bro 😎 where you purchased this Sur Ron?
epic cycle toronto
can you ride gatineau park with this?
Salut mon gars... jai entendu ton accent et jme suis dit que tu etais probablement quebecois. Je suis un jeune de 20 ans et je serais super interesser de macheter un surron... pourquoi a tu mis les pedal? Est-ce pour raison legale? Jaimerais aussi en savoir plus sur les legalite sur la route dun surron au quebec AVEC des pedale
Le setup que jai fait c pour pouvour utiliser les piste cyclable aussinon cest zero legal
What do you mean its blocked at 168 these are 6000 watts lol im in canada and gettin one tomoro and they do 80kmh so what are you talking about no 500 watt motor does that speed
If you dont cut the wire its locked i made a switch so if i get arrested they see its only going 20km i bought from epic cycle i already sold the bike wasnt really worth the money maybe if it drop in the low 4k later on
@@Adampage69 lol how do u figure its not worth it just ride full throttle doing 80kmh and have fun ya nob
@@ZOMBuckaCurt you will understand when you get one and its more like 70kmh unless you weight 100 pound
@@Adampage69 its about 75 and thats with zero upgrades if you switch to a 45 sprocket fornthe chain or to belt drive that right away adds 5-7 kmh and then the bac controller and lightning batteries can get these going over 140
@@Adampage69 there well worth the money theres nothing out there better
Where can I buy this one with pedals. I'm ready for but can't find everything, Iam in USA. Help please.
they all come with pedals in the box
Can you have both pedal for legal and have pegs also
no
Will this pedal kit work on lb youth mx
I cut the green wire for the speed limit and the speedometer only reads up to 45km/h
Might been wrong wire sir on nederst you need to cut the black one i belive
Can I ride as normal for exercise
Where is your kickstand ?
I just bought a bike and my cranks hit the kickstand. Luna cycle said to bend the cranks in a vice. I’m not trying that.
i remove it in that video but now i have the kaniwaba pedalkit and they give you a new kick stand
You get better ground clearance with a 140mm forged crank arms.
It’s so quiet it’s doesn’t matter, just be safe
can anyone share a link to where I can find compatible pedals and pedal arms please? they're too much just for legality on the website so I need an alternative.
thank you!
local shop tbh
@@Adampage69 post it please, I'll contact them as soon as my bike arrives.
@@luisrendon6893 they are all compatible but you need to buy 2 pair of pedal arm and use both left arm on both side any pedals will do
@@luisrendon6893 any bike shop will do im far up in canada you migth wanna call your local bike shop
@@Adampage69 got it, thank you for the info 👍🏻
Does anyone make a 250 watt 15.mph power limiter?
its already there you can add a switch add me on messenger ill show you adam page trois rivieres canada picture on the beach white glasses
What is the chain number, I am thinking could it be a motorcycle chain? Some of the Chinese chains are made with low quality steel and will break/stretch.
I've had a lot of trouble with the 415 chain on a 212cc motorbike with chain stretch and breakage. I ended up putting a #11 Japanese chain on it and have
never had problems with chain stretch or breakage.
420
@@Adampage69 Thanks for the info!
@@Adampage69 Thanks!
Wow
How fast can you pedal it with no motor assistance?
About 5kmh
Did you use the original chain?
No
What size was the new one ?
Can you change the gear sizes to make pedaling better
yes but not that better
@@Adampage69 ok ok. I wonder how a sur Ron would be If you tried to make it tuned for pedaling and being as ebike legal as possible
Boujour Pour limité la vitesse a 32kmh pour le Québec ses posible avec une interrupteur
26 pas 32 malheureusement
How mach in indain mani
Does it effect the top speed ?
No but if you still looking for a pedal kit try kaniwaba same price 10time better quality
What is the pedal system called
go with kaniwaba.com they have a better version
@@Adampage69 nice one bro
How did you install the switch
Cut green black wire connect it to a off on switch thats it
@@Adampage69 is it street legal in ontario
@@vishwasivapalan8881 you should call your local pd give them the info explain that the bike power is limited to 187w and 26kmph they will prob tell you they follow canadian law and if so you should be good
was made to get around peddle rules at dmv - then taken off -
Can u remove it
yes 4 bolt but if you are interested in a good pedal kit chek kaniwaba power kit insanely well made
Pourquoi tu parles en anglais alors qu'est es quebecquois
80% du monde sub sont anglais
why u call it a spur ?? wtf is a spur u mean sprocket!!.?
I cant stand how bike looks with pedals, so Ill make foldable ones
Some of you come here wanting so much research and work for nothing.
This is disgusting