You're right there super siper quick I mean it my mate has one its. Not as good is this and it's like a cr 125 no shit pulls of Alot faster too there scary quick 💯
...and belts, and brakes, and pads, and tires, and rims, and ect. You are gonna see some massive failures running all that power on the stock bikes. But it looks sweet.
Wow that bike looks like it pulls hard now! Awesome upgrade 👍 Thanks for posting Edwin! The trails are nice and snow free out in western Washington, I know it’s a long way to go.
So fun to see your reaction as it was exactly my reaction when I did the same mod. Of course I was in the dark ages with some crappy 3D printed mounting brackets and zero instructions that were helpful in any way, lol. The next step is a primary chain drive conversation because your belt will be shredded soon. Also keep an eye on the battery plug. Mine started to get so hot that it was melting. Yikes! Have fun!
Ha, you predicted a shredded belt and I just watched the newer video where sure enough he shreds the belt, o boy. Chain drive it is for these conversions.
@@ark6959 Really? You have a 60V or 72V? A friend of mine had the plugs melting on his stock battery/controller, you might have a defect. These plugs are rated for 300A continuous so that shouldn't be an issue…
so sick man, love it.. you can almost feel that 'on-tap' instant punch it's now delivering just from watching it here too haha (I've seen plenty of 'other' various Sur Ron vids, and yeah, for sure, you can easily tell the dramatic difference haha love it). EVs 4-the-Win ..Roll on bro! 👍
@@mountainflyhigh Better leverage against the wheel, less effort to move it. Similar to using a 1 foot breaker bar to break torque on a bolt vs a 3 foot bar. Sure you can do it with the 1 foot bar, but you put way less effort into it with the longer bar that has better leverage. Same concept with the sprocket except now the bar is a circle instead of a line.
Now we're getting there, need to fit trials tires on 18 and 21 rims... A concern I have is that 5X power increase also means 5X increase in heat. I'm sure the controller has that covered, but how about the motor? If it gets too hot, the magnets die.
I don’t think he will be able to full power it anyway without flipping himself over, so unless he’s redlining it, heat should not be too much of a problem hopefully
Lol u can give these things power but I’m still skeptical on the performance because of the small light duty chassis, and the non motor bike suspension. Still interested to learn and see how this works out.
@@Nik-gh6gz it's the truth. Its was never intended to be a dirtbike but rather a new class (kuberg fxr1 drill emotion stealth) it is literally a decent motor controller battery combo with a hollow one sided frame and swing arm and the rest is mtb components.. I love my surron but I know what I got
These bikes are a lot tougher than most people realize. I'm 6'2 220lbs and ride mine on pretty technical single track here in Hawaii. Crashed plenty of times and fell off a few cliffs. The bike is fine. With an 18" rear ,running a 3.50" kenda tire the bike hooks up great and climbs like a goat. Fox 40's for a front fork tamed the harsh front end. Check out Mark Hotta or The Chronic Sur Ron Couple's channels. They've been hammering away and testing these bikes for some time, both with motocross and trials/trail backgrounds. Fun people to ride with when I can keep up.
@@ff24 sure the bikes are tough but what I meant is that they will never be more than high power electric mountain bikes. The fox 40 is a mountain bike fork and the roxshox it comes with is too. The chassis and suspension of these bikes won’t ever be more super duty electric mountain bikes.
Ed Great channel. Where do you buy surron in the US? Are there any brick and mortar dealers? All I found is a website but it looks really amateurish and it only offers one model. Thanks, Doug
Wowza! That looks fast. I have my bac8000 all set to install, likely do it today. The 72v battery is on the cards, but am also considering an emax 60v. Keep up the good work mate.
@@ianmangham4570 why is that? and is the bac8000 necessary? Not being a smartass, I really want to know. The motor can only handle about 13kw, so what is the advantage of the bac 8000 over the 4000? I'm in the market for these upgrades.
I think what I'll do is get a controller upgrade but for 60v cuz lets be honest 72v+BAC8000 is too much power. And keeping the 60v I could spend the extra 2k on one or two extra batteries. High power and high range. Awesome video!
what are you at for sprockets right now? Super cool that it can go so fast now, but at full throttle if it does draw 13KW then you are looking at about 10 minutes of runtime. Obviously you wont be at full throttle all the time but dang still wish you could get more out of it, Wonder if it would be worth putting into a bigger frame that allows an extra battery run in parallel. See how many batteries you can fit to be the same weight as a four stroke bike.
do you ride this in the snow? I ask because I am in Minnesnowta and I am considering this bike but riding in the snow is going to be an everyday thing . Thanks!
This is seriously making me reconsider getting an ebike. I'd rather spend more energy on my DH runs than going up them. But still, I love the raw nature of pedaling and of course the serious cardio and strength it gives me. But this video? You're not making this easy man! That looks like a LOT of fun!
I don't see any charts mentioning range etc.. With all this extra power, what are you looking at in range? Let's say not always blasting full throttle?
Does it matter than I left my sport eco mode switch completely off the bike does it still work? I have the same setup just installed it today but couldnt get an answer from cris so figured i would ask if its not too much trouble. Thank you great videos btw
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Bad ass ride!! It blew my mind the first time I tried a BAC8000 too, you will tear up gas bikes in 1/8th mile drag races on asphalt and dirt!
You're right there super siper quick I mean it my mate has one its. Not as good is this and it's like a cr 125 no shit pulls of Alot faster too there scary quick 💯
This video is gonna sell a lot of batteries and motor controllers. LOL.
...and belts, and brakes, and pads, and tires, and rims, and ect. You are gonna see some massive failures running all that power on the stock bikes. But it looks sweet.
@@portland97211 yeah these noobs dont know yet
Its built for that bike there not cheap you know the bike alone Is about 6 grand
@@callumcoyne5850 so likely a 10k ebike lmfao..no thanks. I can build cheaper and just as powerful
@@MrDeceptacon88 can you upload a how to? That would be sick!
Wow that bike looks like it pulls hard now!
Awesome upgrade 👍
Thanks for posting Edwin!
The trails are nice and snow free out in western Washington, I know it’s a long way to go.
You must be near all the craziness
I’m from western Washington to! 😂
@@raginggamer6361 Im in Lake Stevens but I would totally be down to go riding with you guys. I have this same setup and another Stock SurRon Black X.
@@austinw2111 I just realized we have the same name my name is Austin
@@austinw2111 I whould love to go but I just broke my wrist at white pass ski resort
So fun to see your reaction as it was exactly my reaction when I did the same mod. Of course I was in the dark ages with some crappy 3D printed mounting brackets and zero instructions that were helpful in any way, lol. The next step is a primary chain drive conversation because your belt will be shredded soon. Also keep an eye on the battery plug. Mine started to get so hot that it was melting. Yikes! Have fun!
Ha, you predicted a shredded belt and I just watched the newer video where sure enough he shreds the belt, o boy. Chain drive it is for these conversions.
@@heartsky experience is valuable! Cheers!
@@ark6959
Any mods dealing with the battery plug heat?
@@heartsky I wrapped it with gorilla tape lol. And I dropped the max power to 6kw.
@@ark6959 Really? You have a 60V or 72V? A friend of mine had the plugs melting on his stock battery/controller, you might have a defect. These plugs are rated for 300A continuous so that shouldn't be an issue…
Next step snow bike!
I love this Channel!!
My immediate reaction after he installed the light speed system was "Next mod : Snow Bike" and I come and find this comment.
It is happening for sure!
Happy to hear it thanks!
Snow bike would have about 2 miles of range
so sick man, love it.. you can almost feel that 'on-tap' instant punch it's now delivering just from watching it here too haha (I've seen plenty of 'other' various Sur Ron vids, and yeah, for sure, you can easily tell the dramatic difference haha love it). EVs 4-the-Win ..Roll on bro! 👍
The G forces must be incredible on those launches no doubt.
What a badass upgrade Edwin!
I’ve literally never seen a verified person’s comment not have any likes or replies
Dude so hyped on that! Can’t wait to hear about range upgrades (if at all)
Exactly I want to know the range
The new editing style is so fun!
Glad you dig it!
If you ride trails consider getting a 60 or 64 tooth sprocket, more range and acceleration. You loose some top speed but not a issue on trails.
How does gearing a bike down give you more range?
@@mountainflyhigh Better leverage against the wheel, less effort to move it. Similar to using a 1 foot breaker bar to break torque on a bolt vs a 3 foot bar. Sure you can do it with the 1 foot bar, but you put way less effort into it with the longer bar that has better leverage. Same concept with the sprocket except now the bar is a circle instead of a line.
@@ethanreed3718 - However, the motor also needs to produce higher RPMs to move the same mass the same distance = less efficient.
Glad to se you actually riding something you are always behind the camera. Stay safe have fun dude
Your making everything into a snow vehicle but good luck putting the dirt stuff back on like 4 bikes in the spring 😂. love it
Yeah we definitely decided to do a lot of work. We get so much snow in Idaho and we got to keep playing!
haha, that's nuts... I'm pretty happy with the stock power, I'd get into trouble having that much on tap.
I can feel that cold crisp air ❄️
Now your bike can go like 80 mph. This is insane. Only downside is the battery life but this is a great tradeoff imo
Nice upgrade! But it would be cool if you can add a motor for the front wheel too for all-wheel drive, especially in what your rode on in the video.
I have a question we’re do you get the battery case extender bolt cause I need one
The sound of your voice when you said -"THIS IS WHAT I'VE ALWAYS WANTED!!" ❤
That is SICK!!! It's borderline TOO MUCH! Like the Banshee they discontinued due to people dying. I WANT ONE!!!😛😛🐶
Has the range increased by much using this battery ?
Word what’s the range like
We're all dying to know the range! Haha
Aye bro can you send me the links for the batteries an everything I want that foreal 💯
Check out Jack Cecil. Dude actually hit 80+mph on his Suron.
He has a motorcycle dyno in his shop. I recall seeing over 20hp/15kw on his stock motor!
24. something actually!
I saw a quick shot of a sweet willys truck in the background . Will that be in a grindhard video in the future?
May I suggest a push button kill switch that you can reach with your thumb while still holding on to the grips
That bad boy rips. Congrats on building a monster.
Hey Edwin great vid ! Is there any programming involved or is it plug and play ? Also does the speedo still work the same way ? Thanks Dave
i see a snow track for the surron in the near fucher
Now we're getting there, need to fit trials tires on 18 and 21 rims...
A concern I have is that 5X power increase also means 5X increase in heat. I'm sure the controller has that covered, but how about the motor? If it gets too hot, the magnets die.
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I don’t think he will be able to full power it anyway without flipping himself over, so unless he’s redlining it, heat should not be too much of a problem hopefully
I heard someone had this exact same setup and full throttled for a bit too long so his motor melt
I wouldn’t like that thin heat shrink to rub through and wires short out,bang
Yeah, I was thinking a 3 line terminal block would be the way to go.
I would do multiple heat shrink overlapping layers. Maybe 3 layers. It's really abrasion resistant stuff.
Are they out of business now? Can’t find anything
Lite speed bikes, Jersey City.
The ultra upgrade!!!!
hey, are you able to program parameters with the BAC8000? Does it have an app to go along with it?
Holy shit!! That thing rips like crazy!!
Great item very Portable and easy to clean.
Can you do a 1 year update on this kit? I want to know if all these aftermarket parts and mainly battery have held up well compared to stock
Don't get hurt we need you to make VIDEOS...LOL super jealous and excited for you..
I'll stay safe don't worry! Haven't seriously hurt myself on a dirt bike since I was 16 haha
Your laughter said it all! 😄👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Awesome review bro thanx. Totally sold me!
Have you tested or researched the BAC4000 vs the 8000, I wonder if there is a significant difference in performance?
Good evening. One of the strongest bikes is the one owned by the modified Am Sauron ultra bee 🐝
Lol u can give these things power but I’m still skeptical on the performance because of the small light duty chassis, and the non motor bike suspension. Still interested to learn and see how this works out.
In reality it's a mountain bike on steroids
@@mre741 exactly my opinion
@@Nik-gh6gz it's the truth. Its was never intended to be a dirtbike but rather a new class (kuberg fxr1 drill emotion stealth) it is literally a decent motor controller battery combo with a hollow one sided frame and swing arm and the rest is mtb components.. I love my surron but I know what I got
These bikes are a lot tougher than most people realize. I'm 6'2 220lbs and ride mine on pretty technical single track here in Hawaii. Crashed plenty of times and fell off a few cliffs. The bike is fine. With an 18" rear ,running a 3.50" kenda tire the bike hooks up great and climbs like a goat. Fox 40's for a front fork tamed the harsh front end. Check out Mark Hotta or The Chronic Sur Ron Couple's channels. They've been hammering away and testing these bikes for some time, both with motocross and trials/trail backgrounds. Fun people to ride with when I can keep up.
@@ff24 sure the bikes are tough but what I meant is that they will never be more than high power electric mountain bikes. The fox 40 is a mountain bike fork and the roxshox it comes with is too. The chassis and suspension of these bikes won’t ever be more super duty electric mountain bikes.
Is any type of tuning required when doing upgrades to these? Or is it plug n play?
That looks so awesome!! 🤪😃 You have made my decision to buy one very easy. Thanks for the content.
Do you want regret it for real it's the most fun thing I've bought as an adult
I see a lot of tests on ‘flat’ country , how do they handle hills , rocks and rough terrain ?
Ed Great channel. Where do you buy surron in the US? Are there any brick and mortar dealers? All I found is a website but it looks really amateurish and it only offers one model. Thanks, Doug
Hell of a ride...haven`t seen a lot of that type of bike...nice!
They are a blast!
Nuc 24 controller for me.. wonder if it beats the BAC
Wowza! That looks fast.
I have my bac8000 all set to install, likely do it today.
The 72v battery is on the cards, but am also considering an emax 60v.
Keep up the good work mate.
With proper amps, the 60V can achieve the same power without problem. It'll tend to heat a bit faster but that's it!
72v is way better
@@ianmangham4570 why is that? and is the bac8000 necessary? Not being a smartass, I really want to know. The motor can only handle about 13kw, so what is the advantage of the bac 8000 over the 4000? I'm in the market for these upgrades.
@@kwent86 Volts speed Amps Torque
I think what I'll do is get a controller upgrade but for 60v cuz lets be honest 72v+BAC8000 is too much power. And keeping the 60v I could spend the extra 2k on one or two extra batteries. High power and high range. Awesome video!
Wow. That is amazing. I keep wondering why there aren't any factory bikes like that out there?!
Reliability the more power the more ware on the battery it won't have along of a life as a factory battery
Why not bigger tires? They look smaller than the avg MTB. Am I tripping?
It needs like 4” knobbies
Can only fit a 3in knob at best or a 3.5 trial
@@mre741 im in the process of doing a 90/100/16 rear rim tyre
@@xboxice2005
Yes I was speaking with the stock setup. I encourage people to go with a 17 or 16 setup
@@xboxice2005
I believe we are in the same Facebook groups unless you have blocked me lol
@@mre741 nah I wouldn't have done that bro 🙂
Does this increase total ride time
I think you can also upgrade the motor to get 33 kw
Buenísimo!! Imagina sumarle un xtender más la bac 8000 quedaría súper potente y brutal más una larga autonomía
Plenty of grunt but does it shorten the service life of the bike?
Does a bigger battery mean a faster bike?
Im getting ready to hook up my 72v 40 ah to my 1500 watt electra townie bicycle. Wish me luck!
AWESOME. How much was the upgrade. THANKS ???
Can u please send link for this battery and controller please
What’s the range on this with the upgrade?
this looks like pure madness...
what are you at for sprockets right now? Super cool that it can go so fast now, but at full throttle if it does draw 13KW then you are looking at about 10 minutes of runtime. Obviously you wont be at full throttle all the time but dang still wish you could get more out of it, Wonder if it would be worth putting into a bigger frame that allows an extra battery run in parallel. See how many batteries you can fit to be the same weight as a four stroke bike.
It went from stupid fast to insane. Don't hurt yourself🤣have E put a track on it 😍
So could u still put your stock battery in with the new controllee
Soooo dope!!! Stoked to see a track on it!
This video has me considering buying one that's bad ass
do you ride this in the snow? I ask because I am in Minnesnowta and I am considering this bike but riding in the snow is going to be an everyday thing . Thanks!
Can you do this to a segway x260
Yes no problem
Wonder if she makes thru the heat of the summer
So far so good I’ve had it out all day in the sun and 88°
Awesome uploads does this upgrade increase range as well?
Love this bike what is your camera set on your helmet the camera an Microsoft is good
Cool I want one . Did you change the display?
This is seriously making me reconsider getting an ebike. I'd rather spend more energy on my DH runs than going up them. But still, I love the raw nature of pedaling and of course the serious cardio and strength it gives me.
But this video? You're not making this easy man! That looks like a LOT of fun!
Insane speed and torque 👍👍
What range has it got since this upgrade ?
Wild how easy it is to make this thing fast. Issue is to double the power you double the price you pay. Is it worth It? In the long run 100%
Just got my 2022 Sur-Ron thanks to you and Surronster. so... any giveaways on a bac8000 and 72v anytime soon..? x)
Yeahhhh Nice vidéo !!!
Thanks !!!
👍👌😉
Dam Bro that looks so sick wach what your doing on that lol ...so fire I want one si bad ...stay safe & stay awesome ...UK England
Did you upgrade the wheels to bigger wheels with regular dirt bike tires?
is danger at the same time !, BE CAREFUL !! and have fun !!! 🚴♀️
I've been thinking about making an e-bike, that can go at least 80. It would be cool to get a licensed so I can drive to work.
@edwing olding What is the range now with this new setup, is is greater or has it lost it's range because of the power , and consumption increase?
Looks great I'll definitely be looking into getting this kit for myn how many mile can you get out of it with the new upgrade
Whats the top speed with the new 72v battery?
Dude you're description hahahaha ...has me very intrested...look in to the bike and setup another day.
I don't see any charts mentioning range etc.. With all this extra power, what are you looking at in range? Let's say not always blasting full throttle?
In the uk you need to road register these with insurance and have at least a moped licence to go on the roads
Gonna need to find a Speedometer for it now. That thing rips!
For real!
How high range do you have on such tremendous power draw?
I wanted to get another car for a project but I think ima get a Suron and upgrade it.
Hi sir the bike 🚲 was available in which site plz give the link in discription
Is there still an EP mode on system
Does your motor heat up?
Will this cause your motor to burn out?
Edwin, can you add the 72V 8000 BAC to a Segway?
An x260 yes. You could technically do it to a x160 But then I wouldn’t recommend going over 7000 W
Does it matter than I left my sport eco mode switch completely off the bike does it still work? I have the same setup just installed it today but couldnt get an answer from cris so figured i would ask if its not too much trouble. Thank you great videos btw
when u did the first pull on the street it look like u was about to lift off
I installed my BAC8000 with 72V battery, but it feels as if its not faster…i have no display yet. May that be the issue?
Can you use the bac 8000 with 60v battery to get more power without upgrading the battery?????