There are quite a few videos about calibrating the KSGER station, but none shows such a solid way of doing it. The helping hand plus thermocouple? That's genius! Takes my shaky hands out of the equation! I got mine calibrated within 1-2 C thanks to your clever method. Thank you so much!
Thank you for this video, my station was 30 to 50 degrees low, but when calibrated it stayed within 10degrees, this has made a big difference to how well it solders, I can easily reliably solder and it is now a pleasure to use
thanks a lot for your very interesting video. I was wonderging if there is any cheap alternative to calibrate the Ksger T12 ? I have 3 multimeters at home and none have that temperature function :/
First point is 450 °C, while product manual states that temperatures > 380 °C shorten tip life very fast. So, it looks like this procedures damages new tip. Or do I miss something?
Tip life at high temp totally depends on how LONG solder tips are used at high temperature - it's accumulative degradation. For the very short, one time duration they achieve that temp during the calibration process, it's a non event.
I'm considering on getting the KSGER 3.2V. My question is: Are all T12 tips the same? What I mean is can any T12 tip work in this device, or do the tips have to be made specifically for each individual soldering iron? Thanks.
I might be wrong John but I believe that you’re supposed to insert the t12 tips and then screw on the sleeve with the silicone liner my ksger requires me to do it or it won’t make contact
Perhaps you have the aluminum handle iron? The 9501 iron I've been using for the past 18 months now doesn't require any special tip insertion process - there is also no silicone sleeve in it. The tips side in and make solid contact with the contact bands in the iron base. If they didn't slide in all the way and make contact - the "ERROR" message would be displayed immediately and the tips wouldn't work. Having to unscrew the end of the handle to remove & insert a tip would defeat one of the advantageous features of these direct drive solder tips - easy and fast on the fly tip changes as you're using the station.
@John Salt I have a question about the Calibration (Tip Adjust) Menu. In your description above, of the full calibration process, only the sub-menu “Start” is used/described. What about the other two sub-menus? (Init-Adj, Exit-Adj) !! Any Idea? What are the Sub-menus under them, & how they contribute to the Calibration further?
@@Rchelicopterfun Based on what init does in other menus I'd assume that it would reset the calibration. Whether it resets for all tips or just this tip I don't know.
No reason other than you will deteriorate the temp probe over time by exposing it molten solder. They (DMM temp probes) are a consumable item regardless of what you test, but they will wear out faster when exposed to molten solder. Since making this video, I now use one of those FG-100 solder tip temp tester because the replacement temp sensors for them are less expensive and they already have a nice little platform for resting the tip on.
Depends what I'm working on. I mostly use wedge tips for my specific work, but I've used them all at least a few times. 10 tip set link is in description as usual.
Am not sure why, but my unit doesn't even have KU as a choice for the tip selection. It just has K and KR. Why would this be? Any way to update the firmware on this thing?
If you are referencing the blue wet sponge, I mention what I used in the review I did of this station. It's just an ordinary cellulose sponge and cut it to fit the stand. If you are looking for a Haako type sponge silo with the copper shavings dry sponge, this is the one that fits that stand: www.banggood.com/custlink/v33mWzk9Vk
Hello! My KSGer T12 is showing "Error" everytime I change temperature with the J02 tip in. I think it might have to do with PID tuning, maybe? How could I fix this? :)
@Lock Unknown Well, after ripping out and slamming in the tip harder and harder each time, with the naive hope this could help, I came to the conclusion, that it would be better for my KSGER's health to make this end.
I just started using my t12 and one tip came broken (K) and the station displays ERROR when inserted and the other one works but it has gone black above the tip, is that bad?
If the tip is damaged and has an open circuit, the error is displayed - normal. I don't know what you mean by the tip turning black. As solder tips heat up, they oxidize and will discolor (usually a dull grey to brownish color), but when you clean them and re-wet them with solder, they are silver again for a short time until they oxidize again. This is why it's important to clean your tips as you work since solder will only flow if the tip is clean. More information can be found on my Beginner's soldering page: www.rchelicopterfun.com/rc-soldering.html I've also got a link on that page to a good article about tip maintenance which is a must read if you want to keep your tips in good condition.
how do you enter the tip selection "push it and turn right" what does it mean, i am pushing and turning nothing happens, pls help otherwise i like your video
It means exactly that... Push the dial selection knob in and keep it pushed in while turning the knob right (or clockwise if you prefer). If you are not getting into the tip selection menu with that process, the station is either not in run/working mode (ie. it's in standby or sleep mode instead), something is faulty with the station/selection knob, or you have a different station &/or different firmware.
@@Rchelicopterfun okay, in your video it was so fast, i thought i missed something. I tried it like ten times until it worked, that is really a ... don't even know what to say :D
Perfect video. Only one questión: the shake at menú standby... in my station don´t wake up... but if I shake it in running mode, it increments like short boost the temperature. Thanks from Spain about your videos. Excuse me my english.
Not sure what the issue might be there. If it's not waking up when you shake the iron, perhaps you have that function turned off? I go over all the menu settings in my review I did on this T12 station: ruclips.net/video/eKQC9G5SYII/видео.html The boost activating however when you shake it, I really have no idea on. The only way to activate boost on the version I have is to push the dial button in. There is no option in the boost menu to have it turn on with the motion switch. Maybe your version (if it's different) has that option?
Very late reply, but for anyone else with this problem, I read a discussion of this on an electronics board and several people said the solution was to flip the sensor in the handle around (rotate it 180°), sometimes they're installed backwards at the factory. Typical Chinese QC ... :-)
Current pricing on this KSGER T12 soldering station: www.banggood.com/custlink/GDKDEw6B1K
There are quite a few videos about calibrating the KSGER station, but none shows such a solid way of doing it. The helping hand plus thermocouple? That's genius! Takes my shaky hands out of the equation! I got mine calibrated within 1-2 C thanks to your clever method. Thank you so much!
Cool, thanks
Thank you for this video, my station was 30 to 50 degrees low, but when calibrated it stayed within 10degrees, this has made a big difference to how well it solders, I can easily reliably solder and it is now a pleasure to use
Glad it helped. They are great little solder stations 🙂
thanks a lot for your very interesting video. I was wonderging if there is any cheap alternative to calibrate the Ksger T12 ? I have 3 multimeters at home and none have that temperature function :/
Yes there is, the clone FG-100 tip temp temperature meter. They are around $13 USD : www.banggood.com/custlink/m3GmsDK8Gd
thanks a lot !
@@Rchelicopterfun God bless you for all the help with your channel :)
First point is 450 °C, while product manual states that temperatures > 380 °C shorten tip life very fast. So, it looks like this procedures damages new tip. Or do I miss something?
Tip life at high temp totally depends on how LONG solder tips are used at high temperature - it's accumulative degradation. For the very short, one time duration they achieve that temp during the calibration process, it's a non event.
I'm considering on getting the KSGER 3.2V. My question is: Are all T12 tips the same? What I mean is can any T12 tip work in this device, or do the tips have to be made specifically for each individual soldering iron? Thanks.
All the same.
I might be wrong John but I believe that you’re supposed to insert the t12 tips and then screw on the sleeve with the silicone liner my ksger requires me to do it or it won’t make contact
Perhaps you have the aluminum handle iron? The 9501 iron I've been using for the past 18 months now doesn't require any special tip insertion process - there is also no silicone sleeve in it. The tips side in and make solid contact with the contact bands in the iron base. If they didn't slide in all the way and make contact - the "ERROR" message would be displayed immediately and the tips wouldn't work.
Having to unscrew the end of the handle to remove & insert a tip would defeat one of the advantageous features of these direct drive solder tips - easy and fast on the fly tip changes as you're using the station.
@John Salt
I have a question about the Calibration (Tip Adjust) Menu. In your description above, of the full calibration process, only the sub-menu “Start” is used/described. What about the other two sub-menus? (Init-Adj, Exit-Adj) !! Any Idea?
What are the Sub-menus under them, & how they contribute to the Calibration further?
Exit-Adjust exits the adjust menu. No idea on Init - never have used it.
@@Rchelicopterfun Based on what init does in other menus I'd assume that it would reset the calibration. Whether it resets for all tips or just this tip I don't know.
Hello John, could you tell where you bought this soldering iron stand?
@Patryk Rzonca - Got at it Banggood when I got my T12 solder station. Here's the link to just the stand: www.banggood.com/custlink/33KYQAwRjW
Ive seen some sellers recommend not testing the temp with a multimeter... is there a reason?
No reason other than you will deteriorate the temp probe over time by exposing it molten solder. They (DMM temp probes) are a consumable item regardless of what you test, but they will wear out faster when exposed to molten solder. Since making this video, I now use one of those FG-100 solder tip temp tester because the replacement temp sensors for them are less expensive and they already have a nice little platform for resting the tip on.
What tips do you use and do you have a link?
Depends what I'm working on. I mostly use wedge tips for my specific work, but I've used them all at least a few times. 10 tip set link is in description as usual.
Mine D24 was 60° degrees overshoot.
Good thing it can be calibrated.
For what is the little temperature in the right corner?
thanks
its so helpful
Am not sure why, but my unit doesn't even have KU as a choice for the tip selection. It just has K and KR. Why would this be? Any way to update the firmware on this thing?
Have you enabled the ku tip in your tip inventory? That is one of the menus (it has 99 tip selections).
@@Rchelicopterfun Saw your review just now & figured that out. Thanks :)
Do you have a link to the sponge you have in the video? I tried but can not find any that fit the stand. TIA
If you are referencing the blue wet sponge, I mention what I used in the review I did of this station. It's just an ordinary cellulose sponge and cut it to fit the stand. If you are looking for a Haako type sponge silo with the copper shavings dry sponge, this is the one that fits that stand: www.banggood.com/custlink/v33mWzk9Vk
Hello! My KSGer T12 is showing "Error" everytime I change temperature with the J02 tip in. I think it might have to do with PID tuning, maybe? How could I fix this? :)
Faulty tip would be my guess.
@@Rchelicopterfun Thank you!
@Lock Unknown Ty, it's too late. I have already thrown the tip away :(
@Lock Unknown Well, after ripping out and slamming in the tip harder and harder each time, with the naive hope this could help, I came to the conclusion, that it would be better for my KSGER's health to make this end.
I can't select my tip's type. How did you do that?
Treble click the dial and an option menu will pop up and then scroll down to tip and you will find all the tips then click on the type you want to use
It was an excellent video, thank you..
Glad it was helpful
@@Rchelicopterfun I have a question for you.
Will the warm-up time be faster if we increase the voltage of the smps source inside the soldering iron?
I suppose it would, but it will also stress the heater element and tip - shorter tip life would be my presumption.
@@Rchelicopterfun Thank you for your answer
I just started using my t12 and one tip came broken (K) and the station displays ERROR when inserted and the other one works but it has gone black above the tip, is that bad?
If the tip is damaged and has an open circuit, the error is displayed - normal. I don't know what you mean by the tip turning black. As solder tips heat up, they oxidize and will discolor (usually a dull grey to brownish color), but when you clean them and re-wet them with solder, they are silver again for a short time until they oxidize again. This is why it's important to clean your tips as you work since solder will only flow if the tip is clean. More information can be found on my Beginner's soldering page: www.rchelicopterfun.com/rc-soldering.html
I've also got a link on that page to a good article about tip maintenance which is a must read if you want to keep your tips in good condition.
I have T12 with ver. 3.10 of the software and do not know how to calibrate the station... perhaps You know?
Sorry, if it's different from the 2.1S version firmware, I have no idea.
Its the same.
이렇게 차례로 보여주는대로 실제 온도를 입력하면 되는구나. 팁이 있다면 팁도 맞춰주고! 감사합니다.
Thanks!
how do you enter the tip selection "push it and turn right" what does it mean, i am pushing and turning nothing happens, pls help
otherwise i like your video
It means exactly that... Push the dial selection knob in and keep it pushed in while turning the knob right (or clockwise if you prefer). If you are not getting into the tip selection menu with that process, the station is either not in run/working mode (ie. it's in standby or sleep mode instead), something is faulty with the station/selection knob, or you have a different station &/or different firmware.
@@Rchelicopterfun okay, in your video it was so fast, i thought i missed something. I tried it like ten times until it worked, that is really a ... don't even know what to say :D
Perfect video.
Only one questión: the shake at menú standby... in my station don´t wake up... but if I shake it in running mode, it increments like short boost the temperature.
Thanks from Spain about your videos.
Excuse me my english.
Not sure what the issue might be there. If it's not waking up when you shake the iron, perhaps you have that function turned off? I go over all the menu settings in my review I did on this T12 station: ruclips.net/video/eKQC9G5SYII/видео.html
The boost activating however when you shake it, I really have no idea on. The only way to activate boost on the version I have is to push the dial button in. There is no option in the boost menu to have it turn on with the motion switch. Maybe your version (if it's different) has that option?
Very late reply, but for anyone else with this problem, I read a discussion of this on an electronics board and several people said the solution was to flip the sensor in the handle around (rotate it 180°), sometimes they're installed backwards at the factory. Typical Chinese QC ... :-)
Cool
Super. Mam tą stację lutowniczą. Jak za tą cenę jest bardzo dobra.
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