How We Wire A Summer House | Garden Room | Electrical Life
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- Опубликовано: 21 авг 2024
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Thanks for the shout out mate. Wish I had thought of sending you a link to a white or pink one 🤣🤣
Hahaha honest for a split second I thought, S*** I’ve not even checked if this was a black pen 😬😂
Really nice job mate. I appreciate how thoughtful you are about which materials you are going to use and where they will go. Bravo!
Thanks buddy 👏🏼
When the logs on the summer house expand and contract (and they will) two things can happen - fixed conduit can pull apart, and water ingress. Good to use an s shape flexible conduit section to allow for expansion/contraction of the timber walls. Also be carful not to fix CUs across logs as vertical expansion will split the wood. A cabin this size can expect a 3mm per log expansion so that's 45mm contraction/expansion for the whole wall.
appreciate the input, I was always told pvc and wood expansion rates aren’t all that dissimilar, so that along with the non glued joints allows for enough movement. I have been back to a couple of jobs we done a good 2-3 years ago and all still looks good so hopefully may not have many issues.
Glad you pointed out the CU tho, that’s something that’s not crossed my mind before so I’ll be cautious on that in future.
I like the way you fingered the hole before you put the ‘bell end’ into it
It’s nice to see a considerate spark 😂
👏🏼😂😂
Excellent. Nice tidy job 👍 The large head wooden mallet to knock in the Linian clips is a good shout 👍
Thanks matey, could probably get away with any rubber hammer to not take the paint off them, but that big one is all I have 😂
Of course the hot tub shouldn’t be running off a spare’d socket. We all know it’s off an extension lead
Tidiest Summer House install I've ever seen - well done buddy!
Wow, much appreciated! 👏🏼
Enjoyed the video guys ~ thanks for posting ~ you are a great team.
Thanks Ian !
Awesome video Sean! Another job to be proud of. So neatly done. I enjoyed your extra length.... 🤣😅😂🙂🙃
That’s definitely not what she said 😂
Only thing id recommend is using pvc cement on the couplers & joints to weather seal them 👍👌⚡️
THAT MEGGER !!!
The Batman edition 🦇
Just finished watching it mate, what a job! Neat as f@#k mate 👏🏻👏🏻
Nice one wayne 👏🏼
That's 6 P's mate, you forgot Particularly as in "Proper planning and preparation prevents particularly poor performance". Love your work 👌
I usually say pi*s poor but didn’t wanna swear 😂
great neat job as usual, would not expect any thing less 👋
😀 appreciated
Grate vid mate really neat job and some food for thought there for me when I do the summer house
Thanks matey 👏🏼 appreciate the support
Now I know why the trend of grey garden furniture, buildings, slabs and interior decor- to match the grey sky lol
Hahahaha 🤣🤣
Really good video. Lots of handy tips. Cheers
Cheers Mike 👌🏼
I was going to ask about summerhouse installation well done keep up good work 👍
Thanks mate
Mate those conduit cutters are ace, I had one for years absolutely years were like a tenner and always were Bob on…then some sod stole them got another set & they broke first time using them 🤣🤣🤣
Hahaha I always forget to use them aswell and grab a hacksaw, but yea they’re well better
Great video again Sean,one of he neatest installations I have seen,I have one of those Kaiweets meters but mine is the latest model with the lead connectors on the front at the bottom of the screen instead of underneath the device,It's a great little meter
thanks mate I appreciate you saying that.
Yea it’s not a bad little meter tbh, I’ve not used it a whole lot yet but I’ll keep it handy to use when I can
Nice job that lads well done.
Thank you Gary 😊
Noice tidy little installation there Sean. Glad to see you take pride in your work. 👍
Sure they were weeds and not flowers. I can only guess Liverpudlians consider weeds flowers 😂.
Ryan said they might be weeds but they were nice I thought 😂😂
Well done lads on another great job. That laser level looks like a good price
Cheers mate
Great video again Sean
Thanks mate 😊
Almost missed this one m8.
Neat little job there, bet your finding the price of that 10mm is starting to take the p though?
Thanks for sharing 👍
Cheers dude, and yea the cable prices in general are getting mental !
Lovely job mate, well impressed, from Cablesmith virgin.
Thanks for watching mate 👏🏼
Thanks
Your video was very helpful and I did my best to adopt a similar approach in my build. Thanks Dennis ruclips.net/video/IRj0wZkEVrI/видео.htmlsi=2iLrajvSgrLCKGF5
@@IntruderFilmStudioappreciate that mate! I’ll watch your video tonight too.
I have ordered the laser, and it's working amazing for that price. Thanks for recommendations.
Well worth it imo ! And thanks for watching 👌🏼
is it still working
Unfortunately not.
But to be fair I have used it every day on a kitchen rewires, where was very dusty and I drop it couple of times.
Neat job lads
Thanks Ian 👏🏼
Neat job lads …
Hopefully the customer appreciates the thought you put in to make the install as neat and unobtrusive as you have.
What do you think of the Milwaukee Fuel tools. I've recently replaced my old Makita drill and impact with that set, as the bearings had just about had it (and it helped my income tax bill). Not bad for the life they've had. Hopefully the Milwaukee ones will last as long, if not longer.
I’ve only used the Milwaukee for about 2 weeks atm, seem to be really good tbf. hope they serve you well 🤞🏻 thanks for watching mate
Great vid bud, what black magic did you use to get the scrap out the hole saw like that....i always spend 5 minutes poking my screwdriver in it 😂😂
Pure luck that time 😂
I noticed a lot of trades that do these videos don't show how and what you need to take power from the main DB, rcd, mcb, type etc. Be handy ;)
Ahhh there’s a reason for that, multiple reasons. Let me explain.
We wouldn’t want to be held accountable for “showing” someone how to do things, if/when things go wrong.
Then, all installs are different, the length of the supply etc all determine what’s needed, and there will be multiple ways to supply a summer house, and only seeing the job in question could we determine which way is best suited.
@@Cablesmith Ah, gotcha. Thanks for the reply
Great video mate, would the cables going through the conduit not need to be wet rated? Concerned about low temperatures and condensations maybe...
No, they should be fine. I’ve been back to make adjustments and add extra sockets to one recently that I installed over 2 years ago, no signs of water anywhere.
Great vid. About have my garden room done soon.
Awesome! I’m also starting a new one tomorrow!
Nice neat job and well specced.Would you not recommend a earth rod for the shed isolated from the house supply?
Thanks mate, on this occasion no, a rod would be unnecessary
Nice one 👌🏼
Thanks for watching dude
Awesome job! Where did the customer get the summer house from? I'm looking for one with this layout.
Thanks mate, honestly I have no idea where it was from. Sorry dude
I’m same as yourself mate I love doing the summer houses. Was subbing for a boy and done about 20 on the bounce for him a while back.
The lads at Glasgow Rewires do some excellent work smashing them out in a day or two. The boy that owns it lives round the corner from me as well so might see if he’ll get me on a few jobs with him 👌🏻
20 on the bounce, now that’s living the dream 🙌🏻🙌🏻
Great job - I hate seeing conduit on the inside of the shed. Two quick questions. My log cabin has vertical battens to cover storm braces on the outside which would make it difficult to fix a run of straight conduit. Any reason not to use the Copex all the way round? Also, for 62mm log cabin walls, would you use bell connectors on both sides of the wall? Thanks for a great video.
No reason not to use copex only it’s not as pleasing to the eye, you can easily bend solid conduit over obstacles tho for a nicer look. Or even just a small section of copex over the obstacles if you’re not confident in bending the conduit, but it’s really really easy. 62mm you could probably use 2 yes. Or female adapters etc
Nice video Sean. I’ve a question for you. I want to run power to our summerhouse but my consumer unit is right in the middle of our house under our staircase and it’s a concrete floor new build. How would you get the cables to the board in situations like this? Thanks
Hi mate, appreciate you watching!
Usually in this case it’s either under the floorboards upstairs until you get out the back wall, or sometimes through a garage etc depending where the consumer unit is.
Nice work mate. I'm currently planning my summer house build. I'll be celotex and plaster boarding the internal walls for winter use. At what stage do I need to call an electrician to kit the wiring out switches and plugs etc ?
It will need sealant around the conduit boxes.
Luckily, they do have.
How do you guys find out about the little products you use - like the bell connectors for your backboxes. Maybe not them exactly, but do you look through the bookets/pdfs at the suppliers for fun or is it from trade shows or just word of mouth? I know a lot of it's going to get taught as standard and requirements, but these vids someone always seems to show a new nifty product or gadget they'll be using.
I get asked similar to this all the time, and the only real answer is because I’m genuinely so interested in my job,(or I’m just that sad) I spend a lot of time reading, online, catalogues etc just looking at products. A lot of the time it’s because I’ll come across a little issue and think they should make something to solve that, then I’ll go searching and find out they have. 🤣
Love the idea of doing the conduit on the outside of the shed, I’m wiring my first one soon and needed some pointers. Did you put your own TT system in for the shed or have you just used the one from the house? Thank
I didn’t need a TT rod in this case but of course every installation will be different so I couldn’t advise on that.
Glad you liked the job 👌🏼
Great video, so thanks for sharing 👍 gave some great tips for my summer house. One quick question, what are the those white things that you put through the back boxes? Been trying to find them lol! They were on the bench by your coffee an the lazer :)
Thanks for watching 👌🏼 if it’s what I think your referring to those are 20mm bell mouth bushes
Thank you so much, found em on CEF 👍
@@Cablesmith Thank you so much, found them on CEF 👍
@@Cyc70n3 👌🏼
Good old British standard well done mate enjoyed the installation how much did it cost
Have you noticed the price of materials have gone up are you passing on the cost
Thanks Michael,
yes the costs have gone up drastically in the last year. A lot of things more than double.
I cant have the armoured cable running directly to my consumer unit as my neighbours property gets in the way (4 in a block / maisonette)
Can the armoured cable be run into my bedroom then threw the wall again into my hall where the consumer unit is?
@@MrEditsCinema there’s a couple ways it can be done. Usually best to use twin and earth cable inside the house, buried in wall, trunking, through the loft etc whatever works best.
Then convert to armoured once it gets external
Hi Sean, thanks for another great vid. When installing pvc conduit do you use a pvc cement to glue the parts together?
i usually do use solvent weld glue yes, but in a summer house i don’t just because it’s a wooden structure and will definitely expand/contract so leave it with a bit of movement.
I’ve actually seen some a year on and the conduits have bowed right out due to the contraction.
There is drain holes drilled into the bottom of all the conduit boxes on the external just incase of any rogue water getting in, but it’s rather sheltered from the roof overhang anyhow
Google conduit expansion joints. I generally put use them on long runs or for outdoors. I'd use them more so on a wooden outbuilding.
@@rayc1503 I’ve seen those, but never cross my mind when I could need them 🤦🏻♂️
very neat job, what size and type of screws did you use to screw into that backboard without going through
Thank you, we use standard wood screws, 1 inch long. Sometimes 1 1/4 inch. That wood is 47mm thick on this kind of summer house.
How did you get on when fixing the conduit/conduit boxes to the wall? Did the screws not poke through the wall or even to the socket Patresses?
No, these summer houses are usually around 47mm thick wood. we just use 25-30mm screws
Would it have been a good belts and bracers practice to put a circle of silicon around that box where the wire enters the shed? Just in case of the minor chance of water ingress?
all the conduit boxes and wiska boxes do get a bead of silicone round them when we’re finished on these. It’s probably unnecessary but as you say, just in case
Nice job great idea going out the back of the summer house so everything is hidden. What are those white things you used in the back of the back boxes ? Also what did you use to bend the conduit ? Cheers
Thanks Steve, the things in the sockets are called bell mouth connectors. And I used a spring to bend the conduit, just realised Now I didn’t press record at that part 🤦🏻♂️
@@Cablesmith cheers for that I’ll look for those ! Cheers the bends just looked so neat 👍🏻 I think storm glands are a must, far better than swa glands. Forgot ask before if you don’t mind me asking what did you price for this job ? 5k subs nearly there too 👍🏻😀
@@SB-gp6od yep was just a spring and bent over my knee job.
Also I price them all different always depending on certain things like the size and length of the swa etc, this one was around 1300 for everything.
@@Cablesmith cheers buddy appreciate the info. Keep up the good content 👍🏻
Great vid. Whats the make of the small red hole saws you are using and where did you purchase. Cheers
I think that’s the armeg holesaw, starrett also do one the same. Local wholesalers but Amazon have them all also
Many thanks will have a look for a full set only managed to find a set of 3. Keep the vids coming really enjoy the content. Cheers
@@Tommyb1508 yea think them sets of 3 are the most you can get tbh, it’s all I’ve ever seen anyway
I've gor a summer house being built and I'm looking at getting electrics, can i ask how much would this cost for the same type of sockets.?
All jobs are different really, even just the supply cable from the house can be hundreds difference in price to the next one. Typically around £1100 on average all in.
Hi, good video! Average how much an electrical should charge to install electric in the garden house? Thanks
Thank you mate. It’s hard to tell as every job is different and can vary quite a lot. usually £1000-1600 if it’s fairly basic.
Guessing you have to have breakers in the shed even if there's one at the consumer unit?
Yea so we can protect the different circuits in the summer house
@@Cablesmith My shed circuits are protected by fuses at the shed.. think that's good enough? There's a breaker at the house of course.
@@mr.d7372 I couldn’t say without seeing it unfortunately mate
Nice job...probably a daft question but.......if the house consumer unit was all rcbo including feeding the summer houses consumer unit ...would that work, I'm thinking not but not sure ,....
It would work yes but wouldn’t achieve selectivity with having 2 RCDs in in line.
You could potentially have the summer house fed from an rcbo and have none in the summer house.
In this instance it was a split load board in the main house so I didn’t want anything in the summer house to trip half of the main house.
@@Cablesmith nice one...👍👍
Nice video mate, I'm just starting out, how many days would you give yourselves to knock that from start to finish
Easily do it in a full day with the 2 of us all going well, in this case it was done over 2 days tho
@@Cablesmith nice one 👍
Hi, can you send me a link for the Cigman, I can't see it on there site
@@grahamensor9054 I’ve just looked myself and it seems they don’t do it anymore. Shame, because it’s really handy and was nice and cheap too
Good job running conduit outside.
Looks horrible inside
Thanks mate
33:14 you scousers never change do you.
I was waiting for your comment 😂😂😂
Why not use NYY on outside and wireless switch in box outside so only one wire to light ( lot easier )
NYY outside where ?
I do like a wireless switch but the conduit drop to the switch is only about a meter.
Just saying NYY would be quicker in my view but hey if clients happy we’re all happy 👍
Nice
Thank you
Just to go off-topic slightly, I'm guessing this summer house has had to have had permission to be built, as it's less than 1 metre from any boundary...?
Completely unsure on that I’m afraid. It’s not my area tbh so I couldn’t advise. Thanks for watching mate
No permission needed as long as eaves height doesn't exceed 2.5 metres
@@larrystreak1044 see, I should have knew this from watching Oakwood garden rooms for over a year 😂
Gas it fcuk
As long as it’s less than 2.5 meters high booooooooom
@@larrystreak1044it can’t be higher than 2.5m at the highest point of the garden but it should be at least 1m from any boundary.
How much should I be paying for a a job like this? I need the same thing done. Are we talking hundreds or int the thousands
We typically quote around £900-1400 depending on a number of factors.
why didn't you use TT protection for the summer house?
There’s no reason to
I watched other youtube summer house/ garage wiring videos, and they all seem to be convinced that in case of pen conductor failure, it will be fatal in the summer house. And should always be TT ... I'm only a learner, and I like your content ... Great stuff, as always
@@shiamjad not correct, depends on a lot of factors, it’s a wooden structure so the risk is low. A metal outdoor light is a higher risk of loss of the pen conductor but we would rod them all
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Thank you 😊
How much would it cost to get this done please
@@user-vm3dw1xq9j always different depending on a lot of factors, typically £1000-1600 roughly
Where can I buy those bell inserts. Just cant find em.
I got them from my local wholesalers but I’m sure CEF sell them also
Usually Marshall tufflex branded bell mouth connectors
Just found you on YT, Cracking video, how much would it cost for a summer house this size ,if you don’t mind me asking .
Hi, there’s so many factors that affect the price, somewhere between 1000-1400 as a guesstimate
Thank you 😊
@@Cablesmith Thanks for the quick reply, after hearing your accent , I now know where to get a great electrician.👍🏻
@@adelejones5059 👏🏼👏🏼 not a problem ! I’ve made it my mission to reply to every comment I ever get 😬
Any time I’m happy to quote
Where did you acquire the metal lined grommet strip mate?
All wholesalers should sell that stuff mate, but defo ask for a price first. Some can be mega mega expensive 😂
First 😁
😂😂😂
Should you not use an earth rod on a TNCS
This one was TN-S but even still it wouldn’t need an earth rod.
How much?
Too many factors at play, they’re all a different price.
What’s cost of this service? Cheers
there’s a lot of factors to consider when pricing so unfortunately it Varys quite a bit. I think this one was around £1200
Where do you buy all the parts
My local wholesalers, but there’s many online also.
Whats the script with the swa on this job shaun and the earthing areangements mate
TNCS and what do you mean what’s the script ? About earthing the armouring ? if so, I got a banjo bent upwards and a fly lead on the summer house side.
Might be able to see the extra earth when I show the finished board.
Although I’ve recently seen wiska release an E-Spring…. Will most definitely be using them from now on
Whats at the house side pal you coming out the board into the wiska box
@@ericthekingthekingtheking4842 yea no Banjo that side just 3core swa.
earthed the swa one side
Whats the connections in the fuse box shaun ? Is it L-N-E to the wiska in a piece of TWIN AN EARTH ? What happens to the earth from the fusebox once in the wiska box
Great video Sean. Sub and like from me. I am currently planning a summerhouse build. I have armoured cable and consumer unit coming into my old shed. Could you please tell me how much "ballpark" to have this installation done. Just trying to see what costs I will need to factor in. Cheers 👍
Hi mate, thanks for the sub. It all depends on the job really but as a ballpark we are usually around £850-1300 for these. that’s always included the armoured cable and consumer unit tho, which sometimes can be £200-300 alone
@@Cablesmith cheers mate, very helpful. I've seen other videos and the inside of the cabins look like the inside of a submarine with all the tubing and cables. Very clean install 👍
@@TWOWHEELFIX thanks matey! I do try and keep it to a minimum or hidden as best as possible!
Do you think you could come and rewire my summer house please
@@taze_ray791fn5 depending on your location, I certainly could.
Were are you based please ?
Manchester 😊
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What's with RUclipsrs hoovering up outside 🤷
haha I take it others have done this then ?
Only when it’s on a patio like that, anything else and I’d wash it away with a hose
10mm was way over the top. 6 would have been fine.
Not on a 40A supply for the length of cable it wasn’t. Didn’t meet volt drop requirements
@@Cablesmith fair enough although 32a would have been ample for a summer house with a few sockets and a light.
Still, good work though.
@@niceguy235uk1 yea would have been fine on a 32A your right, there is a couple of heaters going in there tho, just like to leave a bit of wiggle room for expansion.
Thanks dude appreciate you watching also 👌🏼
Thanks