The whole reason Traxxass put this together is they don't want you buying aftermarket hopups. They proved this time and again. But I love that you put this together that you can do way better.
Definitely agree with all your saying there bro completely makes sense I also think it a bit of a joke they have included a gear that does better than the usual included standard gear which gets destroyed on a first run. It really is a beautiful looking RC but man that price tag is frightening.
It's kind of like how they released the gears that should have been on the sledge out of the box at the exact same time as the Sledge. Made me feel like they knew that the better gears should have been on there but decided to make a little extra profit instead. But they are in the business of making money.
Well it probably didn't really cost them much to come up with these. They basically just threw their entire upgrade parts bin at them so I would imagine they don't have to sell that many of them to make a profit.
I like that the aftermarket market still exists for this brand. I'm not about to buy any of these vehicles, but I do appreciate that you do a video like this.
Just to let you know that Traxxas X-Maxx and XRT Ultimate was not the idea from Traxxas. It was a build that most Traxxas Hobby dealers wanted, seeing that we get asked a lot about a XRT/X-Maxx similar to Slash Ultimate and Rustler Ultimate. Traxxas listened and produced a very limited number of these Ultimate version to be only purchased at local hobby shops. It's only one time production for Traxxas in support of the LHS. I really enjoyed your video. Thought I chime in as a LHS owner. Not all RC hobbyist are "wrench" savy. These are for those group. I happen to have one delivered today and as I'm looking at it, I can really appreciate the work that they have put into it for the LHS. Videographer and the driver of the video are both good friends of mine and all I heard was nothing but praises of how well it handled. Hobbywing is a great recommendation by the way. If you are a seasoned pro, I do agree with your build suggestions by just purchasing the regular versions. Love how overseas companies tries to manipulate unsuspecting Americans so we can be the voice to be heard for "injustice" when Traxxas goes after them for violating infringements on copyrighted products. So wrong from the truth when people say Traxxas hates aftermarket companies. But most will never get to see the real side of the story. If you have any questions, I'd be happy to share everything that I've experienced with Traxxas here. I happen to be the #1 Traxxas Exclusive dealer in the west coast and deal directly with upper management only.
Definitely good information. I think Traxxas has made a few missteps such as when they sued the ESC manufacturer for using a similar name and when they allowed a third party to threaten a bunch of aftermarket manufacturers. I know that the third party thing wasn't an intentional thing but still there responsibility. That being said litigation is just a part of life with big corporations. I've been telling people the same thing about the ultimates. They're more of a halo showpiece than a practical next step in the evolution of the product.
You hit the nail on the head. I love rc’s but not very wrench savvy. I’d end up buying a regular Xrt and paying someone to swap out esc and some other parts that would be a pain in the ass. I just purchased an ultimate. My LHS shot me one for $1350. He’s hoping ppl see me driving it where we run our cars and helps his sells. I greatly appreciate him for it. I’ve bought roughly 25 rc’s over the 2.5yrs for me and my family of 5.
@@Ghostin81-fs8tr I think you're in the minority though. I feel like most people in the hobby do work on their own vehicles. It would be a very expensive hobby if you had to pay someone to fix your car every time it broke.
I was ready to pull the trigger on an XMaxx Ultimate now you have me thinking. I'm old and doing this is fun but it gets to be a little to much for me. I'm already knee deep in 4 other cars and trucks. Sure do go through the cash on these. I could have a real 1967-68 Shelby GT500 or 350 by now. Thanks for the video they are a lot of help.
Well if you want these upgrades and don't have time or inclination to do the work yourself this could be a good deal. It is cheaper than buying them all separately
I should add to my earlier comment that your channel has become one of my favorite channels. Very informative and entertaining content. Your voice is perfect for the channel as well!! Keep up the great work, we appreciate it!! You deserve way more subs....
Thanks man I really appreciate it! I make these videos primarily to interact with you guys and to get back to the community so I'm glad you're enjoying :-)
After going back n forth on purchasing one I decided to pull the trigger. My local hobby shop owner shot me a brand new Ultimate for $1350 other wise I wouldn’t have bought it. I feel even at the 1350 price point I paid too much. Awesome looking rig. He hasn’t had much luck selling them and our family is pretty active in the rc world in our area so he gave me a discount hoping ppl see it out up close and personal and spend the coin on it.
Basically the mantra of the hobby, buy what you like and make it your own😁. As much as I understand why people are balking at the price of these Ultimate editions, I get the appeal. If you like these rigs and aren't cash strapped, go nuts)). Personally, I think the color schemes let them down. Even a Solar Flare edition or some cooler wheels would have been good. Maybe a revised body mounting system on the X-Maxx? Seems like they were a little lazy...
Yeah I think this was more of a throw everything they have in the parts been at it and make a couple bucks saying rather than trying to invest a big amount of money and create something truly new.
I agree with the 1.5 mod gears and why they work over all allows for more motor mount flex ... I am currently testing out the aluminum motor mount washers same concept they just stiffen the motor mount to compensate for the flex IE less flex its a much cheaper option at 6 dollars but more importantly if it works it doesn't add extra weight to the drivetrain like the chunky 1.5 gears do so in theory less stress/heat on the motor and the rubber couple in the cush drive people say the washers work we will see ... I have a gpm 1.5 set on the way if it doesn't should prove to be a interesting experiment thou
The only problem with the aluminum motor mount washers is they don't really address where the flex is a problem. The flex is mostly a problem in this system because the motor and spur shaft are not directly connected to each other. There's plastic between them and that's where it flexes.
@@DoRC i can see that so your saying the cush drive section flexes more than the motor it self? ... interesting I Have the mod1 hardened steel spur and a tekno pinion already and the gpm 1.5 on the way only thing installed this far is the washers and gonna leave it that way till something happens just out of curiosity more than anything else if it strips on stock gears throw the steel mod 1 in and so on interested to see if I get to the gpm lol
Best vid on this without a doubt. No one has mentioned selling off the parts you change out. Great job man! I will always turn to you before buying. I've already seen parts breaking that shouldn't have with this so called upgrade.
Issue is that it does not make financial sense to sell off a bunch of plastic parts to different people when you 1) take into consideration that people probably dislike the quality of those parts to begin with which is why they upgrade them in the first place and 2) consider the cost of shipping things out (especially large items like a set of those stock tires). Ultimately, the only parts that really hold after market value and can be easily shipped IMO is the stock servo and esc, which together might net you 200 bucks minus shipping and ebay fees (so really more like 125 - 150 bucks).
@mam362 I disagree. I sell of the stock parts on every build I do. I can usually recoup 30% of my upgrade costs. I almost always sell everything as a lot and sell it locally.
Thanks! I was at my local hobby shop today talking with one of the guys. He same about the diff cover situation and servo.. he was honest I feel because he said those are the important upgrades and the rest is just fluff. I’m just gonna get the standard and upgrade it as it breaks.
Honestly that's what I usually recommend to most people unless they really just like upgrading. Everybody's going to have a different bashing style and what one person considers a must for an upgrade might end up being a waste of money for somebody else. Really the only way to know what you need to upgrade from your particular bashing style is to see what breaks.
Well hot damn, I wasn't expecting much but this is a brilliant break-down, keep it up! I have an older X-Maxx, but was wondering about the ultimate....still haven't broken anything in four years with my X but this is neat.
These prices are getting outrageous and it’s beginning to turn me off. Traxxas influenced me to walk away from the hobby years ago. Got back into the hobby 3 yrs ago with ZERO Traxxas purchases. Their ONLY concern is MONEY.
excellent tips, the video provided a technical, clear, precise and quick approach, in a practical and easy to understand way. Congratulations on the content!!!
Yeah, just vent your tires and plug the holes in the wheels; it reduces ballooning considerably for me. I have some ProLine Badlands on my Maxx V2/Widemaxx and they stay in decent shape even at crazy RPM.
The belted sledgehammer tires look amazing. While I agree the truck loves a ballooning tire over a belted tire my wallet does not. Even with good throttle control and good tire awareness a ballooning tire doesn't last long compared to a belted tire. I agree with you for the most part on everything else. Love the videos
Take it depends on which tires you're working with. Trax is tires don't hold up well to abuse but I've been running the proline trenchers on my X-Maxx for quite some time now and have abused them to no end. They just keep coming back for more.
For one thing traxxas charges an outrageous amount for crap aluminum. For example the Traxxas hubs and knuckles are more expensive than vitavon, which is just crazy considering Vitavon is 7075. Furthermore you still have to buy new electronics because the esc in that thing is hands down the worst esc in and name brand rc. For Traxxas it's all about one thing, money. Don't get me wrong a business has to make money but the way they do it just makes it hard to buy there shit. I do love the Xmaxx but in no way is it worth 1500$ in any form.
Shipping will add a lot of cost to get those parts especially if you can't get most of them at one retailer. The already installed means a lot for people who do not have the time or will to change everything themselves. Some people just want to put a battery in and go.
Most of the stuff that I mentioned can be purchased with free shipping. I don't expect shipping to add any appreciable amount to the prices. And yeah if you just want to put a battery in and go the ultimate might be a good option. This was primarily a show that, for those who are okay doing a little bit of work, you can get more for your money.
I wouldn't waste my money on any Traxxas vehicle (for personal reasons), but I 100% agree that what they are offering and at the price they are offering it is ridiculous. Traxxas fanboys won't care and they'll buy these overpriced trucks anyway, but I would go with the aftermarket gear over buying an Ultimate anything. Only thing I wouldn't buy from your suggested items is anything branded GPM. I've had pretty disappointing experiences with that brand in the past, so buying things like gears and hingepins where stresses are super high, I would steer well clear of GPM. I don't know, maybe they've changed over the years, but when i used them I had everything bend and buckle with minimal effort. Other than that, what you recommended is pretty right. Although, I didn't do any of that when I had my X-Maxx a few years ago, so I don't know how much of what you listed is really necessary. I only upgraded my spur and pinion to HR hardened steel gears and I was sorted. But I assume you listed all that stuff to compare to what comes in the Ultimate, right? I gotta say, you're becoming one of my favourite RC channels. Your editing is on point, you speak clearly and get to the point without wasting time, and your content in general is just fun to watch. I don't know how you do what you do, but you Do RC very well. ;)
Wow man I really appreciate the compliment! Your channel was one of the inspirations for my own so What I'm doing is partially a reflection on what you do! As far as GPM is concerned they have actually come a long long way in the last couple of years. They hired some new engineers, started using 775 aluminum and much higher quality steel. They're older stuff was crap but most things that they've made fairly recently are actually really good. The hinge pin kit in my opinion is a required upgrade and I've been running the mod 1.5 spur gear for a while now on my personal truck that weighs almost 30 lb with batteries and it's been holding up really well.
@@DoRC Thank you for the kind words, also. Maybe I'm being too harsh on GPM stuff if what you say is true. I haven't used them in years, but maybe I should give them another go and see how they've changed. Thanks for the reply. :)
@AussieRCPlayground Yeah definitely give them a try. You'll be able to tell the difference between their old stuff and their new stuff. All the new stuff has fancy shiny beveled edges and just generally looks better quality.
Great info, very well said. I purchased an ultimate for several reasons though, it's my first one and my money is easily earned, so it didn't break my wallet whatsoever. Although I like your research and knowledge, I didn't want to build one up yet, maybe later as i get some fun out of it and break stuff. I chose to have the latest and Koolest looking Xmaxx (although still not the best performing, according to your vid). Again, great info, it definitely has helped others. Keep up the great content
they can't sell their overpriced metal parts so they are sitting on stock and only had this idea to move it... instead of making better quality products at a better price they said nah just include it in a sku to sell things we can't otherwise what a waste
You probably right but isn’t it a great truck . Why I don’t have one , I did get a maxx but same thing they over charge a little and a better esc and wheels needed to compete with arrma out of the box
I really like the video, but it does not make financial sense to sell off a bunch of semi-new/open box plastic parts to different people when you 1) take into consideration that people probably dislike the quality of those parts to begin with which is why they upgrade them in the first place and 2) consider the cost of shipping things out (especially large items like a set of those stock tires). Ultimately, the only parts that really hold after market value and can be easily shipped IMO is the stock servo and esc, which together might net you 200 bucks minus shipping and ebay fees (so really more like 125 - 150 bucks). That being said, I DO appreciate that you pointed out better hop up parts than traxxas used on the ultimate edition.
I don't know I've been doing this on a lot of builds for a long time and it actually works very well. I usually sell all of the stock parts off in a lot locally and I can often recoup 25 to 30% of The cost of my upgrades.
Haven’t had an RC car since the slash but this makes me wanna get back into it knowing I can have some serious fun without going to the hobby story every other day
There are actually quite a few modern bashers that you can get that won't be breaking all the time. The 4S Arrmas, Traxxas max, and a few others are pretty durable out of the box.
I like everything you said...but, to save even more people can take it another step further. Instead of purchasing an RTR, getting your recommended upgrades, and then selling off the 'unneeded' parts, how about purchasing a roller from an RC chop shop, purchasing the upgrades, and then purchasing whatever else is needed (although, at that point, I i Believe the only "additional" own needed would be a motor, since the ESC & servo are already covered under your recommended upgrades). This is how I 'acquired' my X-MAXX. I purchased a "roller" from an RC chop shop listing through eBay, upgraded what I felt needed to be upgraded, and purchased my own (Castle) electronics. In the end, my X-MAXX cost me approx $150 more than the standard RTR...and, I didn't have to sell anything to "recover" money spent. Since i originally 'built' it, I've added two additional upgrades (the Proline shock lowers w/ larger diameter shafts, and the X-MAXX WideMaxx kit. Now, it's more stable than a Kraton, and she "takes a lickin', and keeps on tickin'."
@@DoRCNot sure how you came to that conclusion, especially when a roller can cost less than $400. As I said, in the end, mine cost approx $150 more than the RTR, and I could have had it finished for even less. Only reason it ended up more than the RTR is because of some additional upgrades I installed, such as the split center driveshaft w/ bearing holder (from KaniZ RC), a somewhat beefier motor mount, And the fact that some of the aluminum upgrades were more costly Vitavon Racing parts (as opposed to the less expensive Traxxas upgrade parts).
Great video, I think i won't bother with the new ultimate trucks since i already have my X-Maxx and have already put in a Max 6 G1, a Radiolink radio system and Pro-Line MX43's on my truck the next upgrade is an 1,100KV 5687 Hobbywing motor with a new motor mount to match and maybe a firma 160A V2 from the O8S and K8S EXB V2's and finally a new rock n roll body for mine.
I agree though I will say if you can afford to do all the basics right up front you'll be better off because you can sell off your brand new stock parts for an actually surprising amount of money and recoup some of those upgrade costs. Once the parts are used the value of them pretty much plummets
Definitely awesome truck. But building one from the floor up, is alot more fun. It will cost some more money to get the upgrades, but you can choose your look and design…
Yeah if you want the parts that come on it and don't want to do the work yourself it's a good deal but you can definitely put together a better truck for similar money if you do it yourself
Imagine shelling out 1500 for a rc. It’s ok if it makes the rc better but some other channels tested the ultimate and said the added weight actually made Xmaxx and xrt prone to breaking
Yeah I like the idea, but you don't need or want half those upgrades. I'd avoid running aluminum steering links all together, especially with aluminum hubs and servo saver. I do like the diff covers though, they should have gone to all metal diff housings front/middle/back. Especially the xmaxx. People usually cook their front diff then it diffs out to heck and destroys tires left and eight.
Agreed. I think that the aluminum differential housings would have been a better upgrade than some of the stuff that they put on here. Since they threw their entire catalog at it I was kind of surprised not to see them but then again it's not a part you can actually see so maybe that's why I didn't make the cut.
Great video, but it would be better with explanations of all the upgrades and why they're important. You go into detail on a couple of these, but why an upgraded ESC, servo, shock components, etc?
Yeah for some people that would be good though for a lot of people if you go to detail they'll just stop watching. The upgraded ESC is good because it gives you a little bit extra power and is going to be more reliable than the stock one. The upgraded shock caps are important because the stock plastic shock caps are one of the weakest parts of the truck and the servo is good because the stock servo is junk. It has plastic gears and just does not belong in a truck of this size and weight
@@DoRC Good info. I've made upgrades to RCs before to address weak points. Your channel seems better than most in that you typically go into more technical detail on the weaknesses and how to best address them vs. just saying "it has more material" or "aluminum > plastic." Some of those other channels sound more like shills. I hope you include more info like this in your future videos. It doesn't have to make your videos 15 minutes long, just a bit of technicolor commentary.
@@DoRC For sure. I watched your two newer XRT videos and they're excellent. The "try it and see" mods like the diff or gears are some of the better things. Sometimes you learn more from failure than success.
I disagree I I Bluetooth Link is absolutely necessary as it gives you the option to watch your temperatures of your motor and ESC. It's funny that Traxxas puts aluminum motor mounts on a motor with plastic end bells they need to update the motor with aluminum end bells. This is what plagues the x-maxx and xrt motor with bearing failure due to overheating. If you do not do the aluminum GPM end bill conversion using the Telemetry to watch the temperatures is a must. Never let the motor get above 160 ° and never let the ESC get above 150 degrees. Also I would upgrade all the fans! This is what I do and it's worked great for me since! You don't want to put too much aluminum on there as it adds weight. Belted tires I agree are not the best for bashing.
190 is really the max safe point for both. The module is nice but since you'd be replacing the ESC with my upgrade a lot of the telemetry functionality won't work anymore. This is why I think it may be optional in my build.
I have to disagree with belted tires being bad for bashing, they just don’t blow out as much and seem to put less stress on the driveline because they vibrate less.
It really just depends on the type of bashing that you do. If you're doing high speed running off-road then belted tires are better but if you're doing mostly jumps and stunts like I do belted tires are terrible. The lack of ballooning really negatively impacts the ability to rotate your car in the air.
@@DoRCLine KamikRC, I've also had no problem doing stunts with belted tires. I have an X-MAXX, and I'm running pre-mounted belted tires from Power Hobby. I've done flips, I've sent it 20+ feet in the air, and I've raced it (against a Kraton). I should also mention I have the X-MAXX WideMaxx kit on mine. I could be wrong...but, I think why most people have problems doing stunts with belted tires on large-scale vehicles could be because of the excessive weight of most belted tires. Looking at the belted tires from Proline (the most commonly used brand), they are excessively heavy. The Power Hobby wheels/tires don't weight much more than the stock X-MAXX tires (1.5lbs vs 1.4lbs), but the pre-mounted Proline tires are all over 2lbs. That's why I believe the excessive weight is the real cause of the problem.
@@DoRC hey, I ordered one of those Rlaarlo transmitters… I couldn’t find a way to link off of you so you could get the credit(which I know isn’t much)for the sale… thanks for the hookup though. I spent too much on the kids this year so I couldn’t get away with an expensive radio😳.. so this one fits the bill perfectly. Thanks again
@CLOSER1313YO Glad you were able to get one ordered but I don't actually do affiliate links for anything which is why you couldn't find it :-) I don't do this channel to make any money I just do it for fun, to give back to the community and to get to hang out with you guys!
Hi. Love your content. Was just about to purchase the ultimate version but changed my mind after seeing this video. Question: Out of all the upgrades you mentioned, what are the absolute necessary ones? Cheers bud
I honestly wouldn't say any upgrades are absolutely necessary. Unless you have experience with the platform I recommend just getting the car and having fun with it. Once you find what you personally break often go ahead and upgrade it. Everybody bashes differently and so everybody's going to have a different opinion on what is "necessary"
@@DoRC Great advice! I was thinking the same too. Will be using my xrt on asphalt mostly so hope it stays intact for longer. But definitely buying a second set of aftermarket batteries for more play time. Do you recommend any or have favs? I bought the traxxas battery pack with dual charger. Pricey!
@@infospain4880 Yes the Traxxas batteries are expensive. That being said it's probably just best to get a second set of Traxxas batteries as they will work the same way with the charger as the ones you have.
@@DoRC I see. I was looking at some HRB 14,8V 9500mAh 4S 120C. They are half the price of traxxas batteries and the seller says works just as good. You reckon it will be too much for the motor on xrt? Looking to save some cash for upgrades but also do not want to sacrifice on play time. Its my first rc ever!
@infospain4880 no. The electronics will draw as much power as they need and you can't really overpower them with stronger batteries. The main difference will be that you'll have to manually set up the charge settings on the HRB batteries. The only way to do this with the Traxxas live charger is on your phone so it's a bit less convenient than the Traxxas batteries which are automatically detected by the charger.
I'd like to see you calculate the costs if the you bought the Ultimate editions and sold off the '$1000 upgrade' parts that you don't like and used the funds to buy the parts you recommended instead of buying the OG versions and selling the OEM parts.
Cool video! But time is money to me, so i bought one. Wish i didn't cause i have (2) already & a brand new XRT (drove it once), but my addictive personality kicked in, plus i wanted to help my local hobby shop. I definitely wouldn't sell the parts that were taken off. Most rc'ers would throw all that stuff in the spare parts box! Lol! It is a pretty piece to look at tho (when new).
Yeah I think a lot of people don't realize how much value they're throwing away when they Don't resell their new takeoff parts. I usually recoup around a third of the cost of my upgrades by selling off the stock parts. It's a significant amount of money.
@DoRC That is nice! How do you sell? Ebay? Facebook? I wish I had the time & energy to sell stuff. I dont want to get overwhelmed with frugal people that like to waste time etc.
@@kevinwalker7102 usually just on Facebook. I'll sell everything as a lot. It can be a little bit of a pain but as long as you're not in a hurry it's not that big of a deal.
Agreed though I think that there are some upgrades on here that I really wouldn't recommend to anyone. I think this is more of a halo product/show-off shelf queen kind of thing than a serious basher build.
@DoRC I think they are embarrassed Arrma stuck it to them this year with release after release so now they throw parts on a car call it ultimate the one thing they need to address is the dang body falling apart.
1500 us crazy. Obviously if you're not experienced in rc then it's a bit different. But you can even buy a used XRT/XMAXX for 700 bux. Spend the remaining 800 on upgrades. You can buy a new Kraton for 700.
@RcPlayer-tt2vw Yeah. The Outcast/Kraton 8S are 1k. But even those at 1k are so much more rc than these two. Also Arrma updates their rc's and then sells it for essentially the same price. Not sell you the rc with upgrades but then sell you the rc for 500 more. That's essentially selling you a base rc and then charging you for the upgrades. Doesn't make sense. The new Outcast 8S is 1k but with all the recent updates which include a more powerful motor and esc combo. But the price didn't go up by 500. Even if you don't compare Arrma to Traxxas. The value proposition is weak. 1500 for an rc? I can build an rc from the chassis up for 1500 and have a bullet proof setup.
To be fair you are saving quite a bit of money on all of the upgrades if you actually want it all of those upgrades. I just think that a lot of them aren't necessary or desirable.
1500 dollars for the ultimate or 1k for normal. ya ill go with normal and piece meal my parts slowly over time. thats 1900 if you need batteries and charger too. cause 1400 for charger and batteries and car is gis alot if you dont already have an 8s battery set and chager
Yeah I wasn't really trying to discourage anybody from buying the truck I just wanted to give people the information that they could put something together for the same amount of money and end up with a better overall basher. The ultimate is an awesome truck and as long as you want what's in it I'm sure you won't be disappointed with it.
The silver part that goes in pushed through when I put the stronger spring on it. So I bought the vitivon one haven’t installed it yet. My xrt has about all m2c parts expect the servo part
@farmlifebashingrc1333 interesting. So far mine's been working fine. That being said it's possible it just wasn't designed to work with a different spring then comes with the XRT stock. The spring that came with my XRT seems to work really well with it even with a very strong servo and very large tires.
I try to stay away from Hot Racing products... I've had nothing but issues and disappointment from their parts in the past... "QC" just doesn't seem to exist in their company.
Interesting. I've used a bunch of their parts over the years and in general I've been very happy with them. Of course like any one of those Chinese brands the biggest problem is support. If you have a problem you're pretty much going to be on your own unless you can return it to Amazon or something like that
I think the screenshots I showed should have pretty much all the part numbers on them. I really don't like making lists like that just because things change all the time parts become unavailable etc and it becomes a logistical nightmare to maintain.
You could definitely do that but they're a bit more expensive and I was really trying to keep it under that $1,500 price tag so some compromises had to be made.
I don't really think this is an upgrade. This is more of a grab everything they have in the parts bin and throw it on the truck to make a little bit of money.
The Simple answer to the question is, No. Trashass is overpriced, junk materials, underpowered, etc. I’ve had a few Trashass vehicles and end up always fixing it, upgrading them every time I took them out. It sleeve more time waiting for parts on the shelf than me driving it. My other brands never had that issue. I Will never buy a Trashass again.
I think they make some good vehicles. The maxx is Pretty close to the most durable RTR ever made. X-Max is a fun basher and it's pretty durable as well. The sledge is really decent out of the box.
@@DoRC my sledge was a pile. Opened her up, slapped a maxamps 4s LiPo in took it for a rip up the street. Gave her the beans once and the tires exploded. Got new tires, then the servo, esc/motor burned out. Got a replacement from Traxxas put it in, then ripped it behind my house in a sandy wash. No jumping, no flipping just romping it. Broke a rear hub, bent dog bone, lower control arm, diff cup, and a few more parts. Local hobby shops didn’t have parts in stock as it had just released a few weeks earlier. Online shops didn’t even have parts yet (or at least the parts I needed) in stock. Waited almost 2 months to get it Up and running but, I sold it shortly after. Sadly, I wasn’t even driving it like I drive other vehicles. I romp the ish out of my other brands and I rarely break parts. But, the sledge was fragile, maybe it was a lemon out of the box but, it put a sour taste in my mouth for Traxxas. Then don’t get me started on the XRT, that was even worse. I will never buy Trashass again. I’ll stick to my other branded vehicles.
@@KamikRC That sounds like you might have had a run of bad luck. The Sledge isn't the absolute most durable vehicle ever made but it's very durable. Most people have found that it holds up to general bashing with little to no breakages. I'm not sure exactly why you experienced that especially on 4S but that's not the median experience with the sledge.
Just upgrade the original as parts break, it's a money trick, they could've had a wide ultimate max for $1250 that would be perfect, makes no sense to buy the same thing all over again😂😂
Your wrong. I've had mine for 3 1/2 years. If your into weak bashing, okay then. I used belted tires always. If your tired of tire blow out. it's because tires are not belted. I bash HARD. Built a 90 foot high jump. Once you leave the ramp you go HIGHER! I use RPM rear arms with their bearing. Landing after that jump I've only broke rear arms bent center drive shaft. And switch to switch to M2C. No more bending. Bent shock shafts. Tried Proline shocks their alright. But switch to ebay heavy heavy heavy duty shocks with thicker shafts. As for motor/esc. Do what ever you want. I use a Castle XLX2 and a 2028 1100KV. Don't trust stock servo to weak. Get something with a a lot of torque. My has 1155oz in torque. But there are bigger one out there. So better steering set up. Hot Racing, M2C, Integy and so on. There are better metal upgrades then what Traxxas offers. There are other things. But I am finish before I get kick out.
I'm not sure why you would get kicked out. You don't ever have to be concerned about that for voicing your opinion here at least not from me. I think we all have our own views on what works best for us. I don't jump 90 ft in the air. That would almost be the height of a 10-story building so a bit extreme for the kind of bashing that I do so Your needs will be different from mine. There's nothing wrong with that :-) Thanks for watching and thanks for commenting!
@@DoRC As for being kicked. When I mention a brand name of products. I get kick for spamming. Just by saying it. I don't repeat it more then once in a thread. Somebody cry's. P.S. I like to get a set of their new belted tires. But there seems to be no parts available for it.
The Ultimates are for Traxxas Fanboys (like myself lol) that would install all those Traxxas options So they would save a ton by getting the Ultimate. But if you dont want that stuff of course its not worth it. I couldnt find one So Im building one an Ultimate Clone and its not cheap
@@DoRC yes pretty much only thing I’ll be missing is the box. I found a new body on ebay and im about half way there with the ultimate traxxas add ons. I also added a light kit and upgraded the shock springs and fans on the motor and esc.
Conveniently omitted tax, and subjective justification on how much someone's time is worth spent otherwise. Buy the ultimate and fix what breaks from that point forward. If price is an issue, someone shouldn't be purchasing these toys objectively anyways. Fair idea if someone enjoys fixing things that aren't broken; which is a mostly ridiculous proposition outright.
I actually didn't conveniently omit tax I intentionally omitted it. You would pay tax on the ultimate as well so you can either include it or omit it and it makes no difference. $1,500 plus tax versus $1,500 plus tax is still the same number :-) I definitely agree that the time spent is a consideration. If you don't enjoy upgrading and working on your vehicles then obviously an upgrade process probably wouldn't be for you. I'm sure there are plenty of people that will prefer to go the ready built option I just think that for the same amount of money, as long as you don't mind doing a little bit of work, you can end up with a better vehicle. That being said It's all just my opinion and my opinion is worth just about as much as anybody else's :-)
Hey, really considering getting an XRT and have some questions before pulling the trigger. What’s the benefit of upgrading the ESC to the max6? And what’s the benefit of the power hobby 760mg over traxxas ultimate upgraded 2085x? Will these all work with the traxxas receiver? And are the traxxas batteries compatible or are other ones recommended?
The stock ESC is pretty much right at its limit and they do tend to fail. I think it's a good idea just to replace it so you can sell the stock ESC and recoup some money. The Max 6 also has the ability to have a higher BEC voltage to power the servo though you'll need to run a different receiver if you want to do that. On stock BEC voltage you can use the stock receiver. I haven't used the latest 2085R servo so I can't speak to it but the power hobby760 is a great servo with a lot of power and is very durable. I'm sure there are other options out there you can be happy with but it's the best bang for the buck as far as I'm concerned
all they want is our money. As with automobiles, it is now impossible to buy a car with basic equipment. For example, a base Hyundai Venu comes with all the electrical gadgets. Air conditioning, cruise control, electric and heated windows and mirrors. for around $18,000 Canadian. Take all that away and they could sell this vehicle for around $14,000. Governments say they are doing everything to reduce pollution but that is completely false; all these things that we don't necessarily want to cause pollution to turn into a bunch of crooks.
Not sure about this one. I feel like if people would actually buy a car without all of those electronic gadgets the companies would sell them. They could still make a profit even if they sold it without those parts. I'm not sure those things really even cost that much money. The primary driver of increased vehicle cost over the last several decades has been increased safety. It costs a lot of money to make the cars as safe as they are and they are safe compared to what they used to be. Whether or not that's important to you is a different matter but The improved vehicle safety has saved a lot of lives.
I have had very good luck with the 2085X but I have to agree. They sound like a bag of hammers. Dying to see what you are doing next, and I have decided to get the Xmaxx. Blue I think. The Xmaxx was my first big dollar r/c, so why not have 7 of them? I'm going to go with a Max5 G2 and a 6s motor out of my original first release just to see what it does.
Dear Traxxas Team, I am writing to inform you of a problem I have had with my Traxxas Xmaxx ultimate model. I have tried everything, but I can't get the Traxxas Link application to give me more than 6V or 7V. I have the Link module and 4S batteries, and I don't know what to do. Could you help me? Thanks in advance, Mario
I'm not part of Traxxas and I highly doubt they'll see this but I might be able to help you. What do you mean when you say the application doesn't give you more than six volts or seven volts? What exactly are you trying to do?
I wish you had a link for all the parts you're listing. I'm still torn between the Ultimate or building my own. I got a WideMaxx last year, love it but ordered a servo and 1 day after it servo died. Idk if it better buying used if I'd going to buy new parts anyway. I feel like it be a waste to buy a brand new Xmaxx and just replace 500 in parts.
That's a tough one. You can always sell the stock parts off of a new vehicle and recoup some of the cost of the upgrades. You can't do that with used vehicle and you're almost always going to end up spending money doing some sort of repairs on a used vehicle. Those two things can eat up an awful lot of the cost advantage to buying used for a project like this. Also working on a new vehicle is a lot nicer than working on someone else's old vehicle
Arrma did the 8s exb rtr and kept it the same price??? And revised the 4s for a lower price?? Traxxas up graded their 8s models and wants to charge 500 more on an already expensive model!!! This says alot about both companies arrma is in it to create a better rc!! Traxxas is in it to rip people off as usual!! I hope no one buys these Traxxas models so they have to bring down the price this is just BS
I'm not really sure I would really consider this to be an upgraded model. I think this is more of a super fancy special edition of the current model. Basically this is just the throwing their entire upgrade parts bin at it.
@@DoRC this still doesn't explain why arrma exb rtr is the same price and Traxxas is changing 500 more for a "special edition " ?? This is very unexpecteabl form Traxxas and the true rc enthusiasts need to stand together and stop buying this crap so we can get a better quality of rc and not pay out the rear for it!!! Praze arrma for listing to the consumer and creating the best rc available and not raising the price!! Its up to you and the other u tubers to address this and let everyone know that this is unexpecteabl form Traxxas and quit accepting this
@@donaldbowlin7944 Yeah I just have a tough time feeling that way. This by their own admission is going to be a limited run special edition car and I don't really think it's designed to be an next version of anything. I think it's more of a halo piece for the brand where they just stick every single upgrade that they have available on the car. I get why you wouldn't like it but I think as long as it's understood for what it is and what it isn't It's really not that bad of a thing. Traxxas will come out with an actual updated version of these vehicles and I suspect it will address a lot of shortcomings while not costing $1,500.
Thank you take a great video for us. If I want to buy one only, X-Maxx Or XRT,which one would you like more? And could you tell me the reason? Thanks for your solution~
Personally I would go for the XRT. It's still stuntable like the X-Maxx handles better and is a bit easier to work on with the electronics not being buried down in the middle of the chassis. Oh and the body doesn't fall off if you look at it wrong like it does on the xmaxx
The whole steering servo can you provide link and price for it- also I have an xmaxx & have always had steering problems would these work in it - if you had to do xmaxx what would you do?
The best combination I have found for the X-Max is the power Hobby 760 servo, Traxxas plastic adapter, pro modeler 25 to servo horn, hot racing servo saver and hot racing steering link. Put all that together and you won't ever have to worry about your steering again.
I considered both of those before getting my xtr and the general consensus is that they are not as durable, especially given the aluminum chassis they have.
I'd love to buy more traxxas but their electronics are terrible. Their upgrade servos are overpriced and not much of an improvement. The escs can't even be adjusted if any at all and the radio combo is lacking features. One of the only things traxxas does great are their motors, never once have I blown one up and they take a lot of abuse. Traxxas give us roller options as Arrma no longer does.
The whole reason Traxxass put this together is they don't want you buying aftermarket hopups. They proved this time and again. But I love that you put this together that you can do way better.
Yes I'm sure Traxxas would much prefer you buy their stuff but it's good to have options :-)
I'll continue buying GPM upgrades as they're very reasonably priced and the quality of their parts is excellent.
Yeah their newer stuff is good.
Definitely agree with all your saying there bro completely makes sense I also think it a bit of a joke they have included a gear that does better than the usual included standard gear which gets destroyed on a first run. It really is a beautiful looking RC but man that price tag is frightening.
It's kind of like how they released the gears that should have been on the sledge out of the box at the exact same time as the Sledge. Made me feel like they knew that the better gears should have been on there but decided to make a little extra profit instead. But they are in the business of making money.
There’s a lot of Rc channels out there. This is one of the best. Lots of good accurate info. Great reviews
Thanks man I'll try to be as honest and accurate as I can be. Definitely not perfect but I try :-)
I totally agree
I do agree. OP makes it so much easier for even the novice guys can understand.
@rchobbystorelahabra6170 Glad you enjoy!
Totally agree some of the parts look like silly shiney bits you probably don't need
Yeah don't get me wrong It's a beautiful car and I'm excited to get mine but practically speaking I don't think it's a good value.
Very fair assessment… don’t know what traxxas is thinking …. Excellent video 👍
Well it probably didn't really cost them much to come up with these. They basically just threw their entire upgrade parts bin at them so I would imagine they don't have to sell that many of them to make a profit.
I concur! I really appreciate your honesty and unbiased opinions. You’ve earned my respect in the RC world. Your videos rock. Keep ‘em coming 🤙🤙
@TheSpeedrunRookie well we all have biases but I do try to be as objective as possible! Thanks for watching:)
I like that the aftermarket market still exists for this brand. I'm not about to buy any of these vehicles, but I do appreciate that you do a video like this.
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed.
you could build one from scratch while using key Traxxas body parts
@Clavitz1 you could but it'll end up being more expensive than just buying an RTR and selling off the parts you don't use.
Just to let you know that Traxxas X-Maxx and XRT Ultimate was not the idea from Traxxas. It was a build that most Traxxas Hobby dealers wanted, seeing that we get asked a lot about a XRT/X-Maxx similar to Slash Ultimate and Rustler Ultimate. Traxxas listened and produced a very limited number of these Ultimate version to be only purchased at local hobby shops. It's only one time production for Traxxas in support of the LHS.
I really enjoyed your video. Thought I chime in as a LHS owner. Not all RC hobbyist are "wrench" savy. These are for those group. I happen to have one delivered today and as I'm looking at it, I can really appreciate the work that they have put into it for the LHS. Videographer and the driver of the video are both good friends of mine and all I heard was nothing but praises of how well it handled. Hobbywing is a great recommendation by the way. If you are a seasoned pro, I do agree with your build suggestions by just purchasing the regular versions. Love how overseas companies tries to manipulate unsuspecting Americans so we can be the voice to be heard for "injustice" when Traxxas goes after them for violating infringements on copyrighted products. So wrong from the truth when people say Traxxas hates aftermarket companies. But most will never get to see the real side of the story. If you have any questions, I'd be happy to share everything that I've experienced with Traxxas here. I happen to be the #1 Traxxas Exclusive dealer in the west coast and deal directly with upper management only.
Definitely good information. I think Traxxas has made a few missteps such as when they sued the ESC manufacturer for using a similar name and when they allowed a third party to threaten a bunch of aftermarket manufacturers. I know that the third party thing wasn't an intentional thing but still there responsibility. That being said litigation is just a part of life with big corporations.
I've been telling people the same thing about the ultimates. They're more of a halo showpiece than a practical next step in the evolution of the product.
You hit the nail on the head. I love rc’s but not very wrench savvy. I’d end up buying a regular Xrt and paying someone to swap out esc and some other parts that would be a pain in the ass. I just purchased an ultimate. My LHS shot me one for $1350. He’s hoping ppl see me driving it where we run our cars and helps his sells. I greatly appreciate him for it. I’ve bought roughly 25 rc’s over the 2.5yrs for me and my family of 5.
@@Ghostin81-fs8tr I think you're in the minority though. I feel like most people in the hobby do work on their own vehicles. It would be a very expensive hobby if you had to pay someone to fix your car every time it broke.
I was ready to pull the trigger on an XMaxx Ultimate now you have me thinking. I'm old and doing this is fun but it gets to be a little to much for me. I'm already knee deep in 4 other cars and trucks. Sure do go through the cash on these. I could have a real 1967-68 Shelby GT500 or 350 by now. Thanks for the video they are a lot of help.
Well if you want these upgrades and don't have time or inclination to do the work yourself this could be a good deal. It is cheaper than buying them all separately
I should add to my earlier comment that your channel has become one of my favorite channels. Very informative and entertaining content. Your voice is perfect for the channel as well!! Keep up the great work, we appreciate it!! You deserve way more subs....
Thanks man I really appreciate it! I make these videos primarily to interact with you guys and to get back to the community so I'm glad you're enjoying :-)
After going back n forth on purchasing one I decided to pull the trigger. My local hobby shop owner shot me a brand new Ultimate for $1350 other wise I wouldn’t have bought it. I feel even at the 1350 price point I paid too much. Awesome looking rig. He hasn’t had much luck selling them and our family is pretty active in the rc world in our area so he gave me a discount hoping ppl see it out up close and personal and spend the coin on it.
Yeah they definitely are beautiful!
That was cool he gave you $150 off, I love the Xmaxx in any configuration 💯
Basically the mantra of the hobby, buy what you like and make it your own😁. As much as I understand why people are balking at the price of these Ultimate editions, I get the appeal. If you like these rigs and aren't cash strapped, go nuts)). Personally, I think the color schemes let them down. Even a Solar Flare edition or some cooler wheels would have been good. Maybe a revised body mounting system on the X-Maxx? Seems like they were a little lazy...
Yeah I think this was more of a throw everything they have in the parts been at it and make a couple bucks saying rather than trying to invest a big amount of money and create something truly new.
I agree with the 1.5 mod gears and why they work over all allows for more motor mount flex ... I am currently testing out the aluminum motor mount washers same concept they just stiffen the motor mount to compensate for the flex IE less flex its a much cheaper option at 6 dollars but more importantly if it works it doesn't add extra weight to the drivetrain like the chunky 1.5 gears do so in theory less stress/heat on the motor and the rubber couple in the cush drive people say the washers work we will see ... I have a gpm 1.5 set on the way if it doesn't should prove to be a interesting experiment thou
The only problem with the aluminum motor mount washers is they don't really address where the flex is a problem. The flex is mostly a problem in this system because the motor and spur shaft are not directly connected to each other. There's plastic between them and that's where it flexes.
@@DoRC i can see that so your saying the cush drive section flexes more than the motor it self? ... interesting I Have the mod1 hardened steel spur and a tekno pinion already and the gpm 1.5 on the way only thing installed this far is the washers and gonna leave it that way till something happens just out of curiosity more than anything else if it strips on stock gears throw the steel mod 1 in and so on interested to see if I get to the gpm lol
Best vid on this without a doubt. No one has mentioned selling off the parts you change out. Great job man! I will always turn to you before buying. I've already seen parts breaking that shouldn't have with this so called upgrade.
Issue is that it does not make financial sense to sell off a bunch of plastic parts to different people when you 1) take into consideration that people probably dislike the quality of those parts to begin with which is why they upgrade them in the first place and 2) consider the cost of shipping things out (especially large items like a set of those stock tires). Ultimately, the only parts that really hold after market value and can be easily shipped IMO is the stock servo and esc, which together might net you 200 bucks minus shipping and ebay fees (so really more like 125 - 150 bucks).
@mam362 I disagree. I sell of the stock parts on every build I do. I can usually recoup 30% of my upgrade costs. I almost always sell everything as a lot and sell it locally.
Yep. The steering links are a bad idea.
@@DoRC would you be interested in purchasing my stock parts to resell on your own for consignment, perhaps?
@@mam362 I appreciate the offer but probably not. I have a backlog of things I need to sell myself that's pretty big as it is.
Thanks! I was at my local hobby shop today talking with one of the guys. He same about the diff cover situation and servo.. he was honest I feel because he said those are the important upgrades and the rest is just fluff. I’m just gonna get the standard and upgrade it as it breaks.
Honestly that's what I usually recommend to most people unless they really just like upgrading. Everybody's going to have a different bashing style and what one person considers a must for an upgrade might end up being a waste of money for somebody else. Really the only way to know what you need to upgrade from your particular bashing style is to see what breaks.
Well hot damn, I wasn't expecting much but this is a brilliant break-down, keep it up! I have an older X-Maxx, but was wondering about the ultimate....still haven't broken anything in four years with my X but this is neat.
Glad you enjoyed! I love being technical and as long as you guys keep watching these videos I'll keep making them!
You have the best voice in RC youtube. I believe everything you say and it's commercial grade.
Thanks I really appreciate!
These prices are getting outrageous and it’s beginning to turn me off. Traxxas influenced me to walk away from the hobby years ago. Got back into the hobby 3 yrs ago with ZERO Traxxas purchases. Their ONLY concern is MONEY.
They are expensive but this is more of a limited halo product than a serious new release I think.
I half agree with belted comment, I may get a pair to put on the front for some protection but still allow for air control. Will be fun to try out.
Yeah give it a try.
I agree Kenny. It’s a shelf queen / street run setup.
Yeah. Definitely pretty but not the best build.
excellent tips, the video provided a technical, clear, precise and quick approach, in a practical and easy to understand way. Congratulations on the content!!!
Thanks glad you enjoyed!
Traxxas is giving you belted tires this is the greatest Christmas present ever from Traxxas
I guess if you're into that kind of thing. Personally I don't really like belted tires.
Yeah, just vent your tires and plug the holes in the wheels; it reduces ballooning considerably for me. I have some ProLine Badlands on my Maxx V2/Widemaxx and they stay in decent shape even at crazy RPM.
@IISG93II yep! I have a video on that from a while ago.
The belted sledgehammer tires look amazing. While I agree the truck loves a ballooning tire over a belted tire my wallet does not. Even with good throttle control and good tire awareness a ballooning tire doesn't last long compared to a belted tire. I agree with you for the most part on everything else. Love the videos
Take it depends on which tires you're working with. Trax is tires don't hold up well to abuse but I've been running the proline trenchers on my X-Maxx for quite some time now and have abused them to no end. They just keep coming back for more.
For one thing traxxas charges an outrageous amount for crap aluminum. For example the Traxxas hubs and knuckles are more expensive than vitavon, which is just crazy considering Vitavon is 7075. Furthermore you still have to buy new electronics because the esc in that thing is hands down the worst esc in and name brand rc. For Traxxas it's all about one thing, money. Don't get me wrong a business has to make money but the way they do it just makes it hard to buy there shit. I do love the Xmaxx but in no way is it worth 1500$ in any form.
I believe traxxas is 7075 as well. For the most part the Traxxas upgrades are too notch.
Thank you for that extremely useful detailed video, Keep up your great work 🙏🏻 👌🏼
Thanks for watching:)
Shipping will add a lot of cost to get those parts especially if you can't get most of them at one retailer. The already installed means a lot for people who do not have the time or will to change everything themselves. Some people just want to put a battery in and go.
Most of the stuff that I mentioned can be purchased with free shipping. I don't expect shipping to add any appreciable amount to the prices.
And yeah if you just want to put a battery in and go the ultimate might be a good option. This was primarily a show that, for those who are okay doing a little bit of work, you can get more for your money.
I wouldn't waste my money on any Traxxas vehicle (for personal reasons), but I 100% agree that what they are offering and at the price they are offering it is ridiculous. Traxxas fanboys won't care and they'll buy these overpriced trucks anyway, but I would go with the aftermarket gear over buying an Ultimate anything. Only thing I wouldn't buy from your suggested items is anything branded GPM. I've had pretty disappointing experiences with that brand in the past, so buying things like gears and hingepins where stresses are super high, I would steer well clear of GPM. I don't know, maybe they've changed over the years, but when i used them I had everything bend and buckle with minimal effort. Other than that, what you recommended is pretty right. Although, I didn't do any of that when I had my X-Maxx a few years ago, so I don't know how much of what you listed is really necessary. I only upgraded my spur and pinion to HR hardened steel gears and I was sorted. But I assume you listed all that stuff to compare to what comes in the Ultimate, right?
I gotta say, you're becoming one of my favourite RC channels. Your editing is on point, you speak clearly and get to the point without wasting time, and your content in general is just fun to watch. I don't know how you do what you do, but you Do RC very well. ;)
Wow man I really appreciate the compliment! Your channel was one of the inspirations for my own so What I'm doing is partially a reflection on what you do!
As far as GPM is concerned they have actually come a long long way in the last couple of years. They hired some new engineers, started using 775 aluminum and much higher quality steel. They're older stuff was crap but most things that they've made fairly recently are actually really good. The hinge pin kit in my opinion is a required upgrade and I've been running the mod 1.5 spur gear for a while now on my personal truck that weighs almost 30 lb with batteries and it's been holding up really well.
@@DoRC Thank you for the kind words, also.
Maybe I'm being too harsh on GPM stuff if what you say is true. I haven't used them in years, but maybe I should give them another go and see how they've changed.
Thanks for the reply. :)
@AussieRCPlayground Yeah definitely give them a try. You'll be able to tell the difference between their old stuff and their new stuff. All the new stuff has fancy shiny beveled edges and just generally looks better quality.
I totally agree with everything you said.
Me too :-)
Great info, very well said. I purchased an ultimate for several reasons though, it's my first one and my money is easily earned, so it didn't break my wallet whatsoever. Although I like your research and knowledge, I didn't want to build one up yet, maybe later as i get some fun out of it and break stuff. I chose to have the latest and Koolest looking Xmaxx (although still not the best performing, according to your vid). Again, great info, it definitely has helped others. Keep up the great content
Sounds reasonable! Let me know how you like it
they can't sell their overpriced metal parts so they are sitting on stock and only had this idea to move it... instead of making better quality products at a better price they said nah just include it in a sku to sell things we can't otherwise
what a waste
You probably right but isn’t it a great truck . Why I don’t have one , I did get a maxx but same thing they over charge a little and a better esc and wheels needed to compete with arrma out of the box
It's possible.
Yes it is a very good truck.
Exactly
I really like the video, but it does not make financial sense to sell off a bunch of semi-new/open box plastic parts to different people when you 1) take into consideration that people probably dislike the quality of those parts to begin with which is why they upgrade them in the first place and 2) consider the cost of shipping things out (especially large items like a set of those stock tires). Ultimately, the only parts that really hold after market value and can be easily shipped IMO is the stock servo and esc, which together might net you 200 bucks minus shipping and ebay fees (so really more like 125 - 150 bucks). That being said, I DO appreciate that you pointed out better hop up parts than traxxas used on the ultimate edition.
I don't know I've been doing this on a lot of builds for a long time and it actually works very well. I usually sell all of the stock parts off in a lot locally and I can often recoup 25 to 30% of The cost of my upgrades.
Haven’t had an RC car since the slash but this makes me wanna get back into it knowing I can have some serious fun without going to the hobby story every other day
There are actually quite a few modern bashers that you can get that won't be breaking all the time. The 4S Arrmas, Traxxas max, and a few others are pretty durable out of the box.
I like everything you said...but, to save even more people can take it another step further. Instead of purchasing an RTR, getting your recommended upgrades, and then selling off the 'unneeded' parts, how about purchasing a roller from an RC chop shop, purchasing the upgrades, and then purchasing whatever else is needed (although, at that point, I i Believe the only "additional" own needed would be a motor, since the ESC & servo are already covered under your recommended upgrades).
This is how I 'acquired' my X-MAXX. I purchased a "roller" from an RC chop shop listing through eBay, upgraded what I felt needed to be upgraded, and purchased my own (Castle) electronics. In the end, my X-MAXX cost me approx $150 more than the standard RTR...and, I didn't have to sell anything to "recover" money spent. Since i originally 'built' it, I've added two additional upgrades (the Proline shock lowers w/ larger diameter shafts, and the X-MAXX WideMaxx kit. Now, it's more stable than a Kraton, and she "takes a lickin', and keeps on tickin'."
I've done the math before and for a mild build its more cost effective to get an RTR.
@@DoRCNot sure how you came to that conclusion, especially when a roller can cost less than $400. As I said, in the end, mine cost approx $150 more than the RTR, and I could have had it finished for even less. Only reason it ended up more than the RTR is because of some additional upgrades I installed, such as the split center driveshaft w/ bearing holder (from KaniZ RC), a somewhat beefier motor mount, And the fact that some of the aluminum upgrades were more costly Vitavon Racing parts (as opposed to the less expensive Traxxas upgrade parts).
Traxxas hates the aftermarket. Great list of parts & hop ups
Yeah I've done quite a few of these builds and I think this is a great way to make it very decent upgraded truck.
Not including widemaxx was an insult
A bit of a head scratcher.
Great video, I think i won't bother with the new ultimate trucks since i already have my X-Maxx and have already put in a Max 6 G1, a Radiolink radio system and Pro-Line MX43's on my truck the next upgrade is an 1,100KV 5687 Hobbywing motor with a new motor mount to match and maybe a firma 160A V2 from the O8S and K8S EXB V2's and finally a new rock n roll body for mine.
Sounds like you have a pretty good setup.
What about the end bells on the motor... ? They should be aluminum but they are still plastic
Maybe though I've never really heard of ppl having issues with them.
Building is better because you get to choose where to upgrade at your own pace because shit ain’t cheap
I agree though I will say if you can afford to do all the basics right up front you'll be better off because you can sell off your brand new stock parts for an actually surprising amount of money and recoup some of those upgrade costs. Once the parts are used the value of them pretty much plummets
Definitely awesome truck. But building one from the floor up, is alot more fun. It will cost some more money to get the upgrades, but you can choose your look and design…
Yeah that's definitely a fun option! I did that with the overkill outcast build that I had a couple of months ago
Wouldn’t waist my money on the ultimate 💯 great vid👍👍👊🏻👊🏻
Yeah if you want the parts that come on it and don't want to do the work yourself it's a good deal but you can definitely put together a better truck for similar money if you do it yourself
@@DoRC I agree
Agree 100% most of the upgrades are just bling and wont help performance. the base xrt is an awesome rc to have cant wait to start upgrading.
Yeah I've got a little something coming up along those lines :-) stay tuned!
Bro you are a beast! Clear and concise information delivered in an approachable way. 💪🏾🙌🏾
Thanks glad you enjoyed!
Imagine shelling out 1500 for a rc. It’s ok if it makes the rc better but some other channels tested the ultimate and said the added weight actually made Xmaxx and xrt prone to breaking
Not surprised.
Yeah I like the idea, but you don't need or want half those upgrades. I'd avoid running aluminum steering links all together, especially with aluminum hubs and servo saver. I do like the diff covers though, they should have gone to all metal diff housings front/middle/back. Especially the xmaxx. People usually cook their front diff then it diffs out to heck and destroys tires left and eight.
Agreed. I think that the aluminum differential housings would have been a better upgrade than some of the stuff that they put on here. Since they threw their entire catalog at it I was kind of surprised not to see them but then again it's not a part you can actually see so maybe that's why I didn't make the cut.
Great video, but it would be better with explanations of all the upgrades and why they're important. You go into detail on a couple of these, but why an upgraded ESC, servo, shock components, etc?
Yeah for some people that would be good though for a lot of people if you go to detail they'll just stop watching. The upgraded ESC is good because it gives you a little bit extra power and is going to be more reliable than the stock one. The upgraded shock caps are important because the stock plastic shock caps are one of the weakest parts of the truck and the servo is good because the stock servo is junk. It has plastic gears and just does not belong in a truck of this size and weight
@@DoRC Good info. I've made upgrades to RCs before to address weak points. Your channel seems better than most in that you typically go into more technical detail on the weaknesses and how to best address them vs. just saying "it has more material" or "aluminum > plastic." Some of those other channels sound more like shills. I hope you include more info like this in your future videos. It doesn't have to make your videos 15 minutes long, just a bit of technicolor commentary.
@mdbbox5660 I have been adding more tech into my videos lately. People do seem to be enjoying it so I will definitely keep it up :-)
@@DoRC For sure. I watched your two newer XRT videos and they're excellent. The "try it and see" mods like the diff or gears are some of the better things. Sometimes you learn more from failure than success.
@@mdbbox5660 absolutely. Honestly I'm always trying weird random new parts off camera so I figured I'd just put them on camera :-)
Thanks for this one - love the quick overview
Thanks for watching Glad you enjoyed!
I disagree I I Bluetooth Link is absolutely necessary as it gives you the option to watch your temperatures of your motor and ESC. It's funny that Traxxas puts aluminum motor mounts on a motor with plastic end bells they need to update the motor with aluminum end bells. This is what plagues the x-maxx and xrt motor with bearing failure due to overheating. If you do not do the aluminum GPM end bill conversion using the Telemetry to watch the temperatures is a must. Never let the motor get above 160 ° and never let the ESC get above 150 degrees. Also I would upgrade all the fans! This is what I do and it's worked great for me since! You don't want to put too much aluminum on there as it adds weight. Belted tires I agree are not the best for bashing.
190 is really the max safe point for both. The module is nice but since you'd be replacing the ESC with my upgrade a lot of the telemetry functionality won't work anymore. This is why I think it may be optional in my build.
I give my cars my own ultimate treatment. For I like your upgrades better.
Yeah I think they're better than what Traxxas offers
I have to disagree with belted tires being bad for bashing, they just don’t blow out as much and seem to put less stress on the driveline because they vibrate less.
It really just depends on the type of bashing that you do. If you're doing high speed running off-road then belted tires are better but if you're doing mostly jumps and stunts like I do belted tires are terrible. The lack of ballooning really negatively impacts the ability to rotate your car in the air.
@@DoRCI’ve never had that problem with tires and I jump the crap out of mine. Belted tires are my go to for my truck trucks.
@@DoRCLine KamikRC, I've also had no problem doing stunts with belted tires. I have an X-MAXX, and I'm running pre-mounted belted tires from Power Hobby. I've done flips, I've sent it 20+ feet in the air, and I've raced it (against a Kraton). I should also mention I have the X-MAXX WideMaxx kit on mine.
I could be wrong...but, I think why most people have problems doing stunts with belted tires on large-scale vehicles could be because of the excessive weight of most belted tires. Looking at the belted tires from Proline (the most commonly used brand), they are excessively heavy. The Power Hobby wheels/tires don't weight much more than the stock X-MAXX tires (1.5lbs vs 1.4lbs), but the pre-mounted Proline tires are all over 2lbs. That's why I believe the excessive weight is the real cause of the problem.
@ninthislandrc tire weight actually helps with air control. I'm sure you can do flips but I like doing quadruple flips:)
@KamikRC do you do quadruple backflips?
Thanks for all the work you do… really helps
Thanks for watching!
@@DoRC hey, I ordered one of those Rlaarlo transmitters… I couldn’t find a way to link off of you so you could get the credit(which I know isn’t much)for the sale… thanks for the hookup though. I spent too much on the kids this year so I couldn’t get away with an expensive radio😳.. so this one fits the bill perfectly. Thanks again
@CLOSER1313YO Glad you were able to get one ordered but I don't actually do affiliate links for anything which is why you couldn't find it :-) I don't do this channel to make any money I just do it for fun, to give back to the community and to get to hang out with you guys!
@@DoRC well that’s super cool! Thanks for the testing and all that you do on this “well balanced” channel of yours 👍
Thanks for watching :-)
Hi. Love your content. Was just about to purchase the ultimate version but changed my mind after seeing this video. Question: Out of all the upgrades you mentioned, what are the absolute necessary ones? Cheers bud
I honestly wouldn't say any upgrades are absolutely necessary. Unless you have experience with the platform I recommend just getting the car and having fun with it. Once you find what you personally break often go ahead and upgrade it. Everybody bashes differently and so everybody's going to have a different opinion on what is "necessary"
@@DoRC Great advice! I was thinking the same too. Will be using my xrt on asphalt mostly so hope it stays intact for longer. But definitely buying a second set of aftermarket batteries for more play time. Do you recommend any or have favs? I bought the traxxas battery pack with dual charger. Pricey!
@@infospain4880 Yes the Traxxas batteries are expensive. That being said it's probably just best to get a second set of Traxxas batteries as they will work the same way with the charger as the ones you have.
@@DoRC I see. I was looking at some HRB 14,8V 9500mAh 4S 120C. They are half the price of traxxas batteries and the seller says works just as good. You reckon it will be too much for the motor on xrt? Looking to save some cash for upgrades but also do not want to sacrifice on play time. Its my first rc ever!
@infospain4880 no. The electronics will draw as much power as they need and you can't really overpower them with stronger batteries. The main difference will be that you'll have to manually set up the charge settings on the HRB batteries. The only way to do this with the Traxxas live charger is on your phone so it's a bit less convenient than the Traxxas batteries which are automatically detected by the charger.
Another EPIC vid my friend a lot of info an if I was a guy who ran TRAXXAS I'd definitely go your route lol...
Glad you enjoyed :-)
I'd like to see you calculate the costs if the you bought the Ultimate editions and sold off the '$1000 upgrade' parts that you don't like and used the funds to buy the parts you recommended instead of buying the OG versions and selling the OEM parts.
That's an interesting concept. I probably won't do a video about it but let me sit down and crunch some numbers and I'll get back to you.
I did all the things you said including the x drive shaft.
Sweet! What do you think of the build?
Imma stick with my $40 Amazon car. 😂
Which one?
Cool video! But time is money to me, so i bought one. Wish i didn't cause i have (2) already & a brand new XRT (drove it once), but my addictive personality kicked in, plus i wanted to help my local hobby shop. I definitely wouldn't sell the parts that were taken off. Most rc'ers would throw all that stuff in the spare parts box! Lol!
It is a pretty piece to look at tho (when new).
Yeah I think a lot of people don't realize how much value they're throwing away when they Don't resell their new takeoff parts. I usually recoup around a third of the cost of my upgrades by selling off the stock parts. It's a significant amount of money.
@DoRC That is nice! How do you sell? Ebay? Facebook? I wish I had the time & energy to sell stuff. I dont want to get overwhelmed with frugal people that like to waste time etc.
@@kevinwalker7102 usually just on Facebook. I'll sell everything as a lot. It can be a little bit of a pain but as long as you're not in a hurry it's not that big of a deal.
@DoRC Awesome info! Appreciate your response! I will give it a try then.
@@kevinwalker7102 Yeah give it a try. Even if you only get a little bit for the stuff it's better than it's sitting in a box forever
This is for people that don’t have the time or ability. Great video.
Agreed though I think that there are some upgrades on here that I really wouldn't recommend to anyone. I think this is more of a halo product/show-off shelf queen kind of thing than a serious basher build.
I have been running mine stock for almost 2 years now havent needed any of this stuff as long as your not trying to jump your house its fine.
Yes you definitely don't need the things I listed It's just if you're going to spend $1,500 I think this is a better way to do it.
@DoRC I think they are embarrassed Arrma stuck it to them this year with release after release so now they throw parts on a car call it ultimate the one thing they need to address is the dang body falling apart.
@L2theWcarscoffeelife agreed. We're starting to get to a point where it's not acceptable to have bodies that self-destruct in the first two packs.
Lmfao 😂😂😂😂😂
Thanks for watching!
Would love too see your list of upgrades for the big rock6s and or kraton 6s
Good idea!
Traxxas not good like u 😂 but you’re 💯 correct. First dump is that esc as you said
Yeah the max 6 is a great upgrade!
Great review, you always do such an awesome job!!
Thanks and thanks for watching!
1500 us crazy. Obviously if you're not experienced in rc then it's a bit different. But you can even buy a used XRT/XMAXX for 700 bux. Spend the remaining 800 on upgrades. You can buy a new Kraton for 700.
Yea but not the 8s guy that’s a 1000 now I think
@RcPlayer-tt2vw Yeah. The Outcast/Kraton 8S are 1k. But even those at 1k are so much more rc than these two. Also Arrma updates their rc's and then sells it for essentially the same price. Not sell you the rc with upgrades but then sell you the rc for 500 more. That's essentially selling you a base rc and then charging you for the upgrades. Doesn't make sense. The new Outcast 8S is 1k but with all the recent updates which include a more powerful motor and esc combo. But the price didn't go up by 500. Even if you don't compare Arrma to Traxxas. The value proposition is weak. 1500 for an rc? I can build an rc from the chassis up for 1500 and have a bullet proof setup.
Yeah it's a lot of money.
Yes the new ones are 1000
To be fair you are saving quite a bit of money on all of the upgrades if you actually want it all of those upgrades. I just think that a lot of them aren't necessary or desirable.
Could not agree more
It's good to have options :-)
Great video! Let's do the same for Traxxas Sledge!
If they come out with a sledge ultimate I definitely will!
Good video man, i dont got the xrt or xmaxx but i still noticed that right away
Thanks:)
I like these vids that go over the new truck good job do rc
Thanks and thanks for watching!
I can’t find stronger diffs on my built m2c sledge with 1717 system I think it stripped my diffs out.
Traxxas sells stronger ring and pinion gears as to a few other companies
1500 dollars for the ultimate or 1k for normal. ya ill go with normal and piece meal my parts slowly over time.
thats 1900 if you need batteries and charger too.
cause 1400 for charger and batteries and car is gis alot if you dont already have an 8s battery set and chager
Yeah that's what I would recommend. It's better to put what you want in there anyway.
Nailed it
Thanks :-)
Don't listen to him BUY IT,if it don't have modes then you can choose for your self. That's a good thing
Yeah I wasn't really trying to discourage anybody from buying the truck I just wanted to give people the information that they could put something together for the same amount of money and end up with a better overall basher. The ultimate is an awesome truck and as long as you want what's in it I'm sure you won't be disappointed with it.
@@DoRC no problem
Also only issue I had the m2c servo saver and it stripped only m2c part I had that failed.
What part on it stripped?
The silver part that goes in pushed through when I put the stronger spring on it.
So I bought the vitivon one haven’t installed it yet.
My xrt has about all m2c parts expect the servo part
@farmlifebashingrc1333 interesting. So far mine's been working fine. That being said it's possible it just wasn't designed to work with a different spring then comes with the XRT stock. The spring that came with my XRT seems to work really well with it even with a very strong servo and very large tires.
I try to stay away from Hot Racing products... I've had nothing but issues and disappointment from their parts in the past... "QC" just doesn't seem to exist in their company.
Interesting. I've used a bunch of their parts over the years and in general I've been very happy with them. Of course like any one of those Chinese brands the biggest problem is support. If you have a problem you're pretty much going to be on your own unless you can return it to Amazon or something like that
Can you put the parts number to the parts that you recommended?
I think the screenshots I showed should have pretty much all the part numbers on them. I really don't like making lists like that just because things change all the time parts become unavailable etc and it becomes a logistical nightmare to maintain.
Should just get the GPM out drive cups instead the out drive rings
You could definitely do that but they're a bit more expensive and I was really trying to keep it under that $1,500 price tag so some compromises had to be made.
Why oh why didn’t they upgrade the body mounts to XRT style. Body pop-off is super annoying.
I don't really think this is an upgrade. This is more of a grab everything they have in the parts bin and throw it on the truck to make a little bit of money.
The Simple answer to the question is, No.
Trashass is overpriced, junk materials, underpowered, etc. I’ve had a few Trashass vehicles and end up always fixing it, upgrading them every time I took them out. It sleeve more time waiting for parts on the shelf than me driving it. My other brands never had that issue.
I Will never buy a Trashass again.
In general I've had good luck with traxxas. Which vehicles have you owned?
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I think they make some good vehicles. The maxx is Pretty close to the most durable RTR ever made. X-Max is a fun basher and it's pretty durable as well. The sledge is really decent out of the box.
@@DoRC my sledge was a pile. Opened her up, slapped a maxamps 4s LiPo in took it for a rip up the street. Gave her the beans once and the tires exploded.
Got new tires, then the servo, esc/motor burned out. Got a replacement from Traxxas put it in, then ripped it behind my house in a sandy wash. No jumping, no flipping just romping it. Broke a rear hub, bent dog bone, lower control arm, diff cup, and a few more parts. Local hobby shops didn’t have parts in stock as it had just released a few weeks earlier. Online shops didn’t even have parts yet (or at least the parts I needed) in stock.
Waited almost 2 months to get it Up and running but, I sold it shortly after. Sadly, I wasn’t even driving it like I drive other vehicles. I romp the ish out of my other brands and I rarely break parts. But, the sledge was fragile, maybe it was a lemon out of the box but, it put a sour taste in my mouth for Traxxas. Then don’t get me started on the XRT, that was even worse.
I will never buy Trashass again.
I’ll stick to my other branded vehicles.
@@KamikRC That sounds like you might have had a run of bad luck. The Sledge isn't the absolute most durable vehicle ever made but it's very durable. Most people have found that it holds up to general bashing with little to no breakages. I'm not sure exactly why you experienced that especially on 4S but that's not the median experience with the sledge.
Just upgrade the original as parts break, it's a money trick, they could've had a wide ultimate max for $1250 that would be perfect, makes no sense to buy the same thing all over again😂😂
I'm sure they're going to come out with a new version in the future. I think this was more of a showpiece for their upgrade parts.
Your wrong. I've had mine for 3 1/2 years. If your into weak bashing, okay then. I used belted tires always. If your tired of tire blow out. it's because tires are not belted. I bash HARD. Built a 90 foot high jump. Once you leave the ramp you go HIGHER! I use RPM rear arms with their bearing. Landing after that jump I've only broke rear arms bent center drive shaft. And switch to switch to M2C. No more bending. Bent shock shafts. Tried Proline shocks their alright. But switch to ebay heavy heavy heavy duty shocks with thicker shafts. As for motor/esc. Do what ever you want. I use a Castle XLX2 and a 2028 1100KV. Don't trust stock servo to weak. Get something with a a lot of torque. My has 1155oz in torque. But there are bigger one out there. So better steering set up. Hot Racing, M2C, Integy and so on. There are better metal upgrades then what Traxxas offers. There are other things. But I am finish before I get kick out.
I'm not sure why you would get kicked out. You don't ever have to be concerned about that for voicing your opinion here at least not from me.
I think we all have our own views on what works best for us. I don't jump 90 ft in the air. That would almost be the height of a 10-story building so a bit extreme for the kind of bashing that I do so Your needs will be different from mine. There's nothing wrong with that :-) Thanks for watching and thanks for commenting!
@@DoRC As for being kicked. When I mention a brand name of products. I get kick for spamming. Just by saying it. I don't repeat it more then once in a thread. Somebody cry's.
P.S. I like to get a set of their new belted tires. But there seems to be no parts available for it.
@@Airbrushkid ah. Okay yeah that definitely wouldn't be something I would do.
The Ultimates are for Traxxas Fanboys (like myself lol) that would install all those Traxxas options So they would save a ton by getting the Ultimate. But if you dont want that stuff of course its not worth it.
I couldnt find one So Im building one an Ultimate Clone and its not cheap
Yeah it definitely would be expensive to build one like it. Thanks for watching!
@@DoRC it is Im building mine now and wish i bought the ultimate 😬
@@OGPAPERBOY77 Are you doing it exactly like the ultimate?
@@DoRC yes pretty much only thing I’ll be missing is the box.
I found a new body on ebay and im about half way there with the ultimate traxxas add ons. I also added a light kit and upgraded the shock springs and fans on the motor and esc.
Solid ball link for the steerinlink the hot racing steering link is trash!!!! The balls and orings wear super fast!!!
Hasn't been my experience. I've run the hot racing steering links in a couple of them and I've never had a problem with them.
@DoRC I ran one for a year in my xmaxx and it just ended up being loose and the o rings about fell apart..
But it was good for a while
@justindover8142 weird. Mine are a till going strong.
These companies build to get rid of old stock nowadays.
Entirely possible. Pretty much everything on these trucks is out of the parts bin.
Conveniently omitted tax, and subjective justification on how much someone's time is worth spent otherwise. Buy the ultimate and fix what breaks from that point forward. If price is an issue, someone shouldn't be purchasing these toys objectively anyways. Fair idea if someone enjoys fixing things that aren't broken; which is a mostly ridiculous proposition outright.
I actually didn't conveniently omit tax I intentionally omitted it. You would pay tax on the ultimate as well so you can either include it or omit it and it makes no difference. $1,500 plus tax versus $1,500 plus tax is still the same number :-)
I definitely agree that the time spent is a consideration. If you don't enjoy upgrading and working on your vehicles then obviously an upgrade process probably wouldn't be for you.
I'm sure there are plenty of people that will prefer to go the ready built option I just think that for the same amount of money, as long as you don't mind doing a little bit of work, you can end up with a better vehicle.
That being said It's all just my opinion and my opinion is worth just about as much as anybody else's :-)
Hey, really considering getting an XRT and have some questions before pulling the trigger.
What’s the benefit of upgrading the ESC to the max6? And what’s the benefit of the power hobby 760mg over traxxas ultimate upgraded 2085x? Will these all work with the traxxas receiver? And are the traxxas batteries compatible or are other ones recommended?
The stock ESC is pretty much right at its limit and they do tend to fail. I think it's a good idea just to replace it so you can sell the stock ESC and recoup some money. The Max 6 also has the ability to have a higher BEC voltage to power the servo though you'll need to run a different receiver if you want to do that. On stock BEC voltage you can use the stock receiver. I haven't used the latest 2085R servo so I can't speak to it but the power hobby760 is a great servo with a lot of power and is very durable. I'm sure there are other options out there you can be happy with but it's the best bang for the buck as far as I'm concerned
I have question about diff case 7075 aluminum diff case vs traxxas aluminum one? Which is better or don't matter?
Traxxas usually makes good quality aftermarket parts but 7075 is inherently stronger.
all they want is our money. As with automobiles, it is now impossible to buy a car with basic equipment. For example, a base Hyundai Venu comes with all the electrical gadgets. Air conditioning, cruise control, electric and heated windows and mirrors. for around $18,000 Canadian. Take all that away and they could sell this vehicle for around $14,000. Governments say they are doing everything to reduce pollution but that is completely false; all these things that we don't necessarily want to cause pollution to turn into a bunch of crooks.
Not sure about this one. I feel like if people would actually buy a car without all of those electronic gadgets the companies would sell them. They could still make a profit even if they sold it without those parts.
I'm not sure those things really even cost that much money. The primary driver of increased vehicle cost over the last several decades has been increased safety. It costs a lot of money to make the cars as safe as they are and they are safe compared to what they used to be.
Whether or not that's important to you is a different matter but The improved vehicle safety has saved a lot of lives.
I have had very good luck with the 2085X but I have to agree. They sound like a bag of hammers. Dying to see what you are doing next, and I have decided to get the Xmaxx. Blue I think. The Xmaxx was my first big dollar r/c, so why not have 7 of them? I'm going to go with a Max5 G2 and a 6s motor out of my original first release just to see what it does.
Yeah I've got a little something up my sleeve that I think everybody's going to enjoy :-)
Yes but I want all the upgrades to say Traxxas on it...
Well then this is perfect!
Dear Traxxas Team, I am writing to inform you of a problem I have had with my Traxxas Xmaxx ultimate model. I have tried everything, but I can't get the Traxxas Link application to give me more than 6V or 7V. I have the Link module and 4S batteries, and I don't know what to do. Could you help me? Thanks in advance, Mario
I'm not part of Traxxas and I highly doubt they'll see this but I might be able to help you. What do you mean when you say the application doesn't give you more than six volts or seven volts? What exactly are you trying to do?
I wish you had a link for all the parts you're listing. I'm still torn between the Ultimate or building my own. I got a WideMaxx last year, love it but ordered a servo and 1 day after it servo died. Idk if it better buying used if I'd going to buy new parts anyway. I feel like it be a waste to buy a brand new Xmaxx and just replace 500 in parts.
That's a tough one. You can always sell the stock parts off of a new vehicle and recoup some of the cost of the upgrades. You can't do that with used vehicle and you're almost always going to end up spending money doing some sort of repairs on a used vehicle. Those two things can eat up an awful lot of the cost advantage to buying used for a project like this. Also working on a new vehicle is a lot nicer than working on someone else's old vehicle
Even the regular XRT and X-Maxx are way overpriced, considering Traxxas still uses sintered steel in critical drive train components.
It definitely would be nice to see them upgrade those parts.
Arrma did the 8s exb rtr and kept it the same price??? And revised the 4s for a lower price?? Traxxas up graded their 8s models and wants to charge 500 more on an already expensive model!!! This says alot about both companies arrma is in it to create a better rc!! Traxxas is in it to rip people
off as usual!! I hope no one buys these Traxxas models so they have to bring down the price this is just BS
I'm not really sure I would really consider this to be an upgraded model. I think this is more of a super fancy special edition of the current model. Basically this is just the throwing their entire upgrade parts bin at it.
@@DoRC this still doesn't explain why arrma exb rtr is the same price and Traxxas is changing 500 more for a "special edition " ?? This is very unexpecteabl form Traxxas and the true rc enthusiasts need to stand together and stop buying this crap so we can get a better quality of rc and not pay out the rear for it!!! Praze arrma for listing to the consumer and creating the best rc available and not raising the price!! Its up to you and the other u tubers to address this and let everyone know that this is unexpecteabl form Traxxas and quit accepting this
@@donaldbowlin7944 Yeah I just have a tough time feeling that way. This by their own admission is going to be a limited run special edition car and I don't really think it's designed to be an next version of anything. I think it's more of a halo piece for the brand where they just stick every single upgrade that they have available on the car.
I get why you wouldn't like it but I think as long as it's understood for what it is and what it isn't It's really not that bad of a thing.
Traxxas will come out with an actual updated version of these vehicles and I suspect it will address a lot of shortcomings while not costing $1,500.
in Malaysia. this will cost me 2 months salary
That's a lot!
@@DoRC yup.ringgit is very weak now...
Thank you take a great video for us. If I want to buy one only, X-Maxx Or XRT,which one would you like more? And could you tell me the reason? Thanks for your solution~
Personally I would go for the XRT. It's still stuntable like the X-Maxx handles better and is a bit easier to work on with the electronics not being buried down in the middle of the chassis. Oh and the body doesn't fall off if you look at it wrong like it does on the xmaxx
Great video
Thanks!
Thanks for video
You're welcome and thanks for watching!
The whole steering servo can you provide link and price for it- also I have an xmaxx & have always had steering problems would these work in it - if you had to do xmaxx what would you do?
The best combination I have found for the X-Max is the power Hobby 760 servo, Traxxas plastic adapter, pro modeler 25 to servo horn, hot racing servo saver and hot racing steering link. Put all that together and you won't ever have to worry about your steering again.
Great video!! I'm very glad you brought this to our attention!! Love the channel!😊
Thanks and thanks for watching!
Kenny, Powerhobby has been ripping off Scorched RC designs. I personally would not support them by buying that servo
Hmm
Helpful
Thanks!
Great video thanks for making it
Thanks for watching and commenting!
Get a outcast or Kraton 8s exb. And spend the extra on Vitavon or M2c upgrades
I considered both of those before getting my xtr and the general consensus is that they are not as durable, especially given the aluminum chassis they have.
@mam362 in my experience that's correct and they are more expensive to upgrade and repair.
I still prefer the x series.
I'd love to buy more traxxas but their electronics are terrible. Their upgrade servos are overpriced and not much of an improvement. The escs can't even be adjusted if any at all and the radio combo is lacking features. One of the only things traxxas does great are their motors, never once have I blown one up and they take a lot of abuse. Traxxas give us roller options as Arrma no longer does.