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  • Опубликовано: 16 июн 2024
  • Tesla motors, named after the genius inventor Nikola Tesla, used his evergreen invention of induction motors in their EV line. Well, not until the model 3 came up with a superstar motor-the IPMsynRM. IPMsynRMs are proven to be the ultimate solution for EVs to achieve high-speed performance. So, let’s see how the versatile induction motors compete against the latest entry - IPMsynRM motors.
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  • @SizeMichael
    @SizeMichael 2 года назад +599

    Cool video, but a small correction: the Model S Plaid is the only version that uses the carbon fiber sleeve. The other models just limit the RPM

    • @CED99
      @CED99 2 года назад +16

      Came to the comments to look for this. Thanks

    • @xWinstonski
      @xWinstonski 2 года назад +40

      New model x also uses the carbon sleeve motors

    • @SizeMichael
      @SizeMichael 2 года назад +19

      @@xWinstonski Correct. I forgot they started to ship the refreshed X too 😅

    • @firefoxuser2557
      @firefoxuser2557 2 года назад +6

      I was gonna say, the model 3 isn't even close to the S Plaid, yet they are using a complex in house developed, tested and implemented motor in the model 3? I knew it didn't sound right, makes more sense this is put in higher end models, like the S Plaid and the future Roadster

    • @thewrightstuff8956
      @thewrightstuff8956 2 года назад +4

      I think some of the changes for the 2022 model year for 3 and y include using the plaid motor, but only on the performance trim. So, model 3 and y performance will get this new plaid motor soon!

  • @dabulls1g
    @dabulls1g 2 года назад +635

    Man, people are smart.

    • @rolandgerard6064
      @rolandgerard6064 2 года назад +46

      Busy on it since the 18th century.

    • @MP-ut6eb
      @MP-ut6eb 2 года назад +44

      Engineers are ;)

    • @rfichokeofdestiny
      @rfichokeofdestiny 2 года назад +20

      They can be. Sometimes. 😏

    • @gormoth-5330
      @gormoth-5330 2 года назад +12

      That’s been my reaction to every one of their videos, especially the magnet train

    • @dabulls1g
      @dabulls1g 2 года назад +29

      @@MP-ut6eb everyone is, humans are stupid so we think those who work with the complex symbols involved in mathematics are smart. Intelligence runs rampant everywhere, not just where society wants to notice it.

  • @fingineer2439
    @fingineer2439 2 года назад +163

    I feel that it would have been good to mention at least once what IPMsynRM means. It stands for Interior Permanent Magnet syncronous Reluctance Motor.

    • @markgritzan2841
      @markgritzan2841 2 года назад +4

      And what does the Reluctance par tell us?

    • @g.4279
      @g.4279 2 года назад +12

      @@markgritzan2841 Magnetic flux wants to find the path of least reluctance, this is how they get the motor to turn.

    • @masternobody1896
      @masternobody1896 2 года назад

      brain left the chat. so i start practicing for 2 h

  • @manny18pr
    @manny18pr 2 года назад +143

    This channel is perfect for people who like learning thru visual explanation. I really appreciate the work and effort put into making these videos. Thanks!

    • @superleggenda
      @superleggenda 2 года назад +8

      You need to watch Veritasium’s video about NOT being visual learners. We learn mostly by hearing. Visuals are just a plus. And no, you are not an exception. Watch the video!

    • @icewallowcome9929
      @icewallowcome9929 2 года назад +3

      @@superleggenda lol,was thinking of that video too

    • @ntsuabtsab8655
      @ntsuabtsab8655 2 года назад

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    • @superleggenda
      @superleggenda 2 года назад

      @@ntsuabtsab8655 …what?

    • @sudattsdeadchannel3495
      @sudattsdeadchannel3495 2 года назад

      Guy who created this channel and team is a indian

  • @SALESENGLISH2020
    @SALESENGLISH2020 2 года назад +91

    This is great! It shows how in real engineering, solving even one small problem through innovation causes another problem, and you have to solve that too... and finally an optimized solution is used. Engineering is not easy; that's where interdisciplinary knowledge is useful. My respect to the genius of Nicola Tesla for coming up with the idea of rotating magnetic field and creating induction motors using it. I have difficulty imagining any field :).
    By the way, my respect also to Lesics team for presenting the knowledge of sophisticated engineering to the students in the most interesting way. I am sharing this channel with all the students I know.

    • @3SPR1T
      @3SPR1T 2 года назад +7

      Engineering is about finding the Perfect compromize.

  • @johntheux2ecompte56
    @johntheux2ecompte56 2 года назад +97

    Pretty sure the model 3 is using ultra high strength steel sleeving, it's the new model S which uses carbon fiber sleeving.

    • @sovietdies
      @sovietdies 2 года назад +13

      @E Van it could accelerate faster if it wasnt a four door 4,700lbs beast, kinda crazy to think about

    • @romansenger2322
      @romansenger2322 2 года назад +17

      @@sovietdies i could fly if it wasnt for gravity.

    • @romansenger2322
      @romansenger2322 2 года назад +1

      Yeah, and the Plaid doesnt use induction motors on the rear. Its just the M3P motor with the carbon sleeve.

    • @johntheux2ecompte56
      @johntheux2ecompte56 2 года назад +12

      @@sovietdies From 0-60 it's limited by friction so no, but after 60 shaving weight would sure make a big difference.

    • @johntheux2ecompte56
      @johntheux2ecompte56 2 года назад +8

      @E Van It's 1.99 with 1ft rollout substracted (when you use the laser detectors on the track) and 2.1 from a standstill (when you use the Dragy)

  • @MrAlfable
    @MrAlfable 2 года назад +23

    I'd be interested in seeing a comparison of the IPMsynRM with the Lucid motor, both look to be new levels of efficiency in EV motors but different approaches.

  • @ratkutti
    @ratkutti 2 года назад +10

    Me trying to sleep
    My brain: IPMSynRM IPMSynRM IPMSynRM

  • @utkarshkothimbire1484
    @utkarshkothimbire1484 Год назад +1

    Thanks a lot for making this video. You explained the complex concept in very simple language. It was easier to absorb concepts because of the self-explaining animations.

  • @thomasmarvell5875
    @thomasmarvell5875 2 года назад +4

    A way to get around the curing process is to first cure the resin system at a lower temperature to not affect the magnets. You can install a keeper tube (Made from cast iron) around the rotors which keeps the atoms aligned. This would need a post cure for the resin system to reach its required properties... but the rotor will still be magnetised.

  • @ahmd_adty_prtm
    @ahmd_adty_prtm 2 года назад +15

    Why reupload?

  • @andersemanuel
    @andersemanuel 2 года назад

    This is such cool info! I learn new stuff all the time. I love the details.

  • @Clark-Mills
    @Clark-Mills 2 года назад +28

    Great video as usual.
    Feedback: The brake pad assembly doesn't rotate with the wheel; easy fix to further polish your excellent videos.

    • @richie1317
      @richie1317 2 года назад +7

      I can't unsee that now

    • @tpad6
      @tpad6 2 года назад

      Good eye

    • @kidsarebadcheckmychannel949
      @kidsarebadcheckmychannel949 2 года назад

      not the easiest fix because the wheel model and brake assembly model is one big model

  • @a_pav
    @a_pav 2 года назад +2

    Very in depth and informative video, great work!

  • @eugeneleroux1842
    @eugeneleroux1842 2 года назад

    Thank you for such an informative presentation, with good animation.

  • @Scorpion7substance
    @Scorpion7substance 2 года назад +2

    Great video perfection, Elon was not kidding when he said that this particular motor was special.

  • @abdelrahmanibrahim2770
    @abdelrahmanibrahim2770 2 года назад

    Good video , May I ask any resources about IPMsynRM , and Thank you so much

  • @TheSulross
    @TheSulross 2 года назад +7

    the Tesla inspired induction motor is more friendly to the Earth's environment when manufactured at the massive scale that could supplant all ICE ground transportation (the raw materials required)

  • @fideliovienna4631
    @fideliovienna4631 2 года назад +3

    Model 3 dual motor variants use the IPMsynRM on rear axle and induction motor in the front, not only IPMsynRM
    This improves efficenciy, because the induction motor can just run without power with no recuperation, so no loss of energy when only the rear motor is needed.
    Model S and X were other way round before Plaid (IPMsynRM in the front @Raven)
    Dont know how it is now with the 2021 Model S & X

  • @harryaldieny7697
    @harryaldieny7697 2 года назад +1

    You've got yourself a like just because you didn't ask for one.. and because you have a great content. Thank you

  • @spoorjason
    @spoorjason 2 года назад

    Nicely explained, thanks!

  • @vigneshwarrajc6629
    @vigneshwarrajc6629 2 года назад +2

    PMSM are also used in Indian EV cars Like Tata vehicles known as Ziptron technology , while the old school Induction motors are used in Non Ziptron vehicles like Tigor EV with low power capcaity. The Innovation done in reluctance torque to support the motors performance is genius method , as in older generation motors the Reluctance torque used to fight against the torque produced by motors. By simply changing the angle of current;s orientation to the magnetic field , the reluctance will also support the motors performance by doing so.

  • @dksartsoficial2667
    @dksartsoficial2667 2 года назад

    Most awaited video thank you 👍

  • @vodiak
    @vodiak 2 года назад +13

    Can the IPMSynRM design be made in an outrunner configuration? It seems like it would be easier to cool that way, assuming air cooling on the PM and Reluctance portion would be sufficient when it is on the outside.

    • @riba2233
      @riba2233 2 года назад +9

      It can't, not enough "meat" behind magnets so not enough flux weakening

    • @brianb-p6586
      @brianb-p6586 2 года назад

      Surface (not internal) permanent magnet motors are readily available in outer-rotor (outrunner) configuration, but they're not popular. Since much more cooling is needed for the stator than for the rotor, making the rotor easier to air-cool isn't really an advantage... and a surface PM motor doesn't have useful reluctance torque.

    • @vodiak
      @vodiak 2 года назад

      @@brianb-p6586 I was thinking that the stator could be liquid cooled, and being stationary would not need a high-speed water-tight seal.

    • @brianb-p6586
      @brianb-p6586 2 года назад

      @@vodiak Right, the plumbing for the stator is easy either way, but it's good to have a large cooled shell wrapped around an outer stator rather than trying to cool the small central core of an inner stator. All modern EV motors have a liquid-cooled stator.

  • @user-kl1sq1eo5x
    @user-kl1sq1eo5x 2 года назад

    very well explained! thanks!

  • @MinhNgo-yf4qm
    @MinhNgo-yf4qm 2 года назад +2

    Can you do a video on regenerative braking? I've seen a couple others, but I'm still confused.

  • @MyFirstYoutubeHandle
    @MyFirstYoutubeHandle 2 года назад +2

    This video is incredibly well done

  • @rambanpdates
    @rambanpdates 2 года назад +1

    Sir plz make videos explaining current transformer (CT), voltage transformer (VT) & circuit breaker (CB) in power transmission

  • @javichuecabosch9930
    @javichuecabosch9930 2 года назад

    the video is really cool. But please when showing a graf put data in the x axis aswell. how do I know if the diference in speed is 1km/h or 20km/h

  • @mzamroni
    @mzamroni Год назад +3

    This is my prediction for the carbon sleeve:
    Build the carbon fiber sleeve separately using mold.
    Cool the metal rotor to make it shrink.
    Insert the shrunk rotor into the carbon sleeve.
    So it's reverse of train wheel installation (expand the outer sleeve by heat then insert it into wheel axis)
    Or insert the neodymium magnet after rotor is sleeved

    • @BariumCobaltNitrog3n
      @BariumCobaltNitrog3n Год назад +1

      Cool the rotor? Steel becomes brittle and more likely to fracture at frigid temperatures unless mixed into expensive alloys. Have you ever used heat shrink tubing? That's how tight it is.
      Did you even watch the video? Magnets at an angle?

  • @fatfreeheo
    @fatfreeheo 2 года назад

    Funny how at the end of the video approx 7:16
    The wheel and brake caliper are in sync while turning, 😂 lol

  • @joshuadunlap8156
    @joshuadunlap8156 2 года назад

    They do it on blades turbines for extra strength web binding cald stringer and a robotic system that winds precisely perfect laps so no imperfections are made and then after using this they heat treat it with air activation too with ambient air or a lil higher but not enough to melt magnesium anyway that's what I know working in the carbon and blade industry for ten years they also have to use a ultrasonic system that uses water so they can see if any cracks bubbles or overlaps that are out of tolerance like looking for improper welds on pipes really cool technology

  • @yannsieyadjeu
    @yannsieyadjeu 2 года назад +1

    Excellent educative video. I assume the IPMSynRM must be very expensive given the complex engineering process behind its manufacturing.

    • @brianb-p6586
      @brianb-p6586 7 месяцев назад

      It's no more complex than any other synchronous 3-phase interior ermanent magnet motor, and that the most comm9n motor type in modern EVs

  • @amateurwizard
    @amateurwizard 2 года назад

    I've definitely going to share this video. Minor issue, the models for the Model 3 and S are swapped.

  • @SorokinAU
    @SorokinAU 2 года назад

    thank you very much! very intresting!

  • @RahulSharma-oc2qd
    @RahulSharma-oc2qd 2 года назад

    Is there a place where can I learn more about mechatronics in relation to vehicle? To be specific in transmission area of a vehicle

  • @Tamer_Gomaa
    @Tamer_Gomaa 2 года назад

    Great explanation, thanks

  • @ramazan07ak
    @ramazan07ak 2 года назад

    What programs do you use for animations?

  • @pwj9703
    @pwj9703 2 года назад

    I have a TESLA M3P from 2020 which in the product description has one of each engine. is it an advantage or a disadvantage?

  • @BaBaNaNaBa
    @BaBaNaNaBa 2 года назад +1

    very explanatory, but why did you re-upload

  • @rwhirsch
    @rwhirsch 2 года назад

    excellent explanation...thanks.

  • @ronakparikh
    @ronakparikh 2 года назад +4

    I think a disadvantage would be increased manufacturing cost due to complicated and proprietary carbon fiber compression winding and low repairability if the permanent magnets become demagnetized due to a defect in the cooling and due to their more complicated cooling. The advantages may still outweigh this downside though

    • @blayzehaze
      @blayzehaze 2 года назад +1

      I agree but it don’t think the advantage is worth it. Its a bit of a gamble on Tesla’s end. I installed motors for years at Fremont and cost savings also had a major impact on decision making. It’s not a flaw in silicone valley it’s a feature!

    • @jopabolit
      @jopabolit 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@blayzehazetrh

  • @kimii6696
    @kimii6696 2 года назад +1

    Very interesting, could you do a more indepth video on how the IPMsyRM works, I feellike the physics part there was a bit quick 😅

    • @clockpulse
      @clockpulse 2 года назад +1

      They did in an earlier video:
      ruclips.net/video/esUb7Zy5Oio/видео.html
      Don't be afraid to look at their channel...

  • @JoeOvercoat
    @JoeOvercoat 2 года назад +3

    7:23 You mean to say they have a two point higher efficiency. This case it is approximately 2% but that’s just by chance.

  • @tirupathikolli515
    @tirupathikolli515 2 года назад

    Please explain how an EMP works and what are the measures to be taken to protect an electric appliance from an EMP

  • @richacquah1
    @richacquah1 2 года назад

    What software is used for these visuals?

  • @timtravelnomad
    @timtravelnomad 7 месяцев назад +1

    This video seems out of date, it fails to mention Axial Flux SynRM motors that are more torque & power dense than these Radial Syn RM motors.
    So high performance carrs, and eVtols are adopting Axial Flux.

  • @Tosuzu0321
    @Tosuzu0321 Месяц назад

    I wonder if the curing process involves a vacuum machine. It be like trying to boil water without heat, the only way to do that would be to introduce a vacuum to get the liquid to boil at a very low temp.

  • @okithdesilva129
    @okithdesilva129 2 года назад +1

    It's amazing how Tesla made the IPMsynRM which can change the world of EVs

  • @LuvvSURYA
    @LuvvSURYA 2 года назад +13

    Would like to know about the kind of motor used in other EVs from popular brands like BMW, Mercedes, Porsche and Audi. BMW iX is one such promising car.

    • @getartsywithyogita8291
      @getartsywithyogita8291 2 года назад +9

      Most of them use Internal permanent magnet design. their designs of rotor varies. you can watch Munro's videos on this topic. he gives a details overview of all drive trains of these companies

    • @LuvvSURYA
      @LuvvSURYA 2 года назад +1

      @@getartsywithyogita8291 : Thanks.

    • @fabiobobrow
      @fabiobobrow 2 года назад +3

      As far as I know, Tesla is the only one using induction motors, all others use IPM motors (not just for EVs but for hybrids as well). However, there are some that uses IPM-SyncRM for even longer than Tesla. The BMW i3 is an example of this.

    • @gigabyte2248
      @gigabyte2248 2 года назад +5

      I believe BMW are looking at separately excited synchronous motors. Like a conventional interior permanent magnet synchronous motor (IPMSM, with no reluctance effects), but with an electromagnet rotor instead of a permanent magnet one. The Renault Zoe has been using this design since its first model. Its biggest benefit is that it eliminates the need for expensive (and politically-fraught) rare earth magnets. Its biggest downside is that, like the induction motor, it loses energy as heat in the rotor, and needs to be cooled for effective operation. The separately excited SMs are less efficient than the IPMSMs, but I believe they're marginally more efficient than induction motors.
      Most manufacturers are using IPMSMs (without reluctance effects). Expect this to change as electric powertrains move from low-volume luxury vehicles to high-volume mass-market vehicles, and/or China start constraining the supply of neodymium and dysprosium. Separately excited motors and reluctance motors - especially ones that use aluminium alloys instead of copper - will probably become more common.

    • @riba2233
      @riba2233 2 года назад

      Renault uses separately excited motors

  • @whirledpeas3477
    @whirledpeas3477 2 года назад +8

    Battery powered cars are the future, but I don't get the feeling of my old school 1971 pickup and working on it with my son

    • @Jumpingjackflash123
      @Jumpingjackflash123 2 года назад +3

      Change is the only constant in this world. If you resist you’ll suffer

  • @mamleshbohari2200
    @mamleshbohari2200 2 года назад +2

    Hey folks at Lesics ... great job guys ... was really looking for this kind of video on the internet but couldn't find until now ... can u suggest books or courses that I can take so to learn in great detail about these electric motors ' construction , FEA and design ?

  • @zaiffyyy
    @zaiffyyy 2 года назад

    Yessss... That 3 am contenttt ..

  • @u21545
    @u21545 2 года назад +1

    Please make more videos on Electric and solar vehicles!!🙂

  • @MilanRukavina
    @MilanRukavina 2 года назад +11

    Great video!
    It would be great to describe VW's DC motors used in ID.3 etc., and compare to Tesla's.

    • @riba2233
      @riba2233 2 года назад +12

      They are not really dc, all modern ev's use three phase ac motors.

    • @brianb-p6586
      @brianb-p6586 2 года назад +1

      VW uses internal permanent magnet synchronous motors, essentially the same as the Model 3.

    • @jopabolit
      @jopabolit 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@brianb-p6586😊no

    • @brianb-p6586
      @brianb-p6586 7 месяцев назад

      @@jopabolit VW now also uses induction (asynchronous) motors, with just PM in RWD models (such as the ID.4 RWD) and one axle PM and the other axle induction in AWD models (such as the ID.4 AWD)... just like the Tesla Model 3 and Y.
      Both induction (synchronous) and synchronous PM motors are AC, not DC. No one uses DC motors in EVs.

    • @jopabolit
      @jopabolit 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@brianb-p6586tesla battery bad

  • @-_-6908
    @-_-6908 2 года назад +2

    3:03 reminded me of venom in Spiderman 3

  • @itabiritomg
    @itabiritomg 2 года назад

    how much will it impact the cost of the final product? this is the crucial info we all would like to know.

  • @allamasadi7970
    @allamasadi7970 2 года назад

    Seems The IPMSYNRM are made using the COPV method used in aerospace

  • @daudalam6417
    @daudalam6417 2 года назад

    Thank you!

  • @s4bones
    @s4bones 2 года назад +5

    Imagine a plaid model 3 with dual carbon wrapped rotors!! 😅

    • @MrGoodeats
      @MrGoodeats 6 месяцев назад

      I want a ludicrous or plaid model 3 that would be amazing

  • @BurRun-kt3tf
    @BurRun-kt3tf 6 месяцев назад

    Thank អរគុណ

  • @d.cypher2920
    @d.cypher2920 2 года назад

    That animation is well done.

  • @hecklepig
    @hecklepig 2 года назад +1

    I imagine the carbon sleave wrapping process is similar too, if not the same as the process developed to produce the fuel tanks for the now defunct Lockheed VentureStar AeroSpike project.

    • @4961Studebaker
      @4961Studebaker 2 года назад

      Or similar albeit a smaller scale like Boeing wraps the 787 fuselage.

  • @bankoleogundero9446
    @bankoleogundero9446 2 года назад

    Can you please go through Lucid's motor?

  • @hyeonjun
    @hyeonjun 2 года назад

    graduate level video..very excellent

  • @Tuppoo94
    @Tuppoo94 2 года назад

    Could you make a video about Toyota's Hybrid Synergy Drive?

  • @hemaccabe4292
    @hemaccabe4292 2 года назад +1

    Very informative.

  • @craigspakowski7398
    @craigspakowski7398 2 года назад

    I would bet that Tessa us curing the composite motor overwrap with an electron beam or laser. Electron beam might be tricky because of the magnetic field but there is no reason that a prepreg carbon tow couldnt be cured with laser heating. Minimal heat input focused on the carbon would mean that there is almost no chance of heating the magnets.

  • @IvorMektin1701
    @IvorMektin1701 2 года назад +6

    Solid lifters, pushrods, Holley Double Pumper carbs.... Good times

    • @darius2640
      @darius2640 2 года назад +2

      then: hey dude whats that engine you got there? It's a blown big block buddy, it kicks ass
      now: excuse me no gender having person, can I ask what motor your vegan electric car has? Sure it is a WF-C5790DWF/4 PRO PLUS 12S MAX
      just doesn't sound the same, does it

    • @IvorMektin1701
      @IvorMektin1701 2 года назад

      @@darius2640
      When the glass packs pop, the panties drop.

  • @surajgaikwad1985
    @surajgaikwad1985 2 года назад

    Please make video on working of Impuse turbine and reaction turbine... Please explain thoroughly 😊... Please... Please... Please

  • @automobilebasicideas
    @automobilebasicideas 2 года назад +1

    Nice explanation 😍

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    @xpengfangirl7942 2 года назад

    spyros panopoulos emotors and cells, next level

  • @GABRIEL-dz9mh
    @GABRIEL-dz9mh 2 года назад +17

    I prefer the induction motor because it has no magnets that require limited availability elements, is of more rugged and simple construction and there's no reason to care about speed as there's no need to go past 100km/h or to climb a hill very quickly, the induction motor also doesn't require very complicated cooling as shown in this video

    • @Dota2funny
      @Dota2funny 2 года назад

      I Wonder why most ev makers are going with the 1st one then

    • @GABRIEL-dz9mh
      @GABRIEL-dz9mh 2 года назад +4

      @@Dota2funny the video said that pm synchronous motor is used mostly by high performance ev makers, not the cheap and mass market oriented ones

    • @volodumurkalunyak4651
      @volodumurkalunyak4651 2 года назад +4

      Actually induction motor do require complicated cooling as both rotor and stator heat up significantly. IPMSynRM - not so much, rotor heating is greatly reduced, reducing need for complicated cooling.

    • @GABRIEL-dz9mh
      @GABRIEL-dz9mh 2 года назад +2

      @@volodumurkalunyak4651 video said opposite😄 however I'll stick with the induction 3 phase as no relatively rare and hard to source rare earths are required

    • @volodumurkalunyak4651
      @volodumurkalunyak4651 2 года назад +3

      @@GABRIEL-dz9mh video also states 96% efficient vs 98% efficient and maximum rotor temperatures at 80°C vs 100°C. 98% efficient with maximum rotor temperature 80°C is easier to cool than outher combination.

  • @SH-py9ou
    @SH-py9ou 2 года назад

    Only I noticed the "star of David" shape in this motor?

    • @WeighedWilson
      @WeighedWilson 2 года назад

      I this case it's the "star of Elon"

  • @nigeljohnson9820
    @nigeljohnson9820 2 года назад +20

    The weakness in the new motor is that it uses rare earth permanent magnets. Elements that are resource limited, and are both expensive and subject to supply chain problems.

    • @romansenger2322
      @romansenger2322 2 года назад +8

      Lol, they are not rare. Dont get fooled by the name. Agree with supply chain problems though.

    • @nigeljohnson9820
      @nigeljohnson9820 2 года назад +5

      @@romansenger2322 while neodymium is the second most abundant of the rare earth metals at 38mg per kilogramme of the earth crust. The largest deposits are in China, making it as rare as the Chinese want it to be.
      I understand China has placed an embargo on its export, as it is considered a strategic material.
      Is that sufficiently rare for you???

    • @romansenger2322
      @romansenger2322 2 года назад +4

      @@nigeljohnson9820 no, its rare.

    • @nigeljohnson9820
      @nigeljohnson9820 2 года назад

      @@romansenger2322 the world's total production of neodymium is approximately 7000 tons per annum.

    • @itspersiangulfmoron.repeat2242
      @itspersiangulfmoron.repeat2242 2 года назад +3

      @@romansenger2322 They are rare, why? Because we produce thousands tons of those elements while needing millions.

  • @michaelantoun9353
    @michaelantoun9353 2 года назад +7

    So if I have an induction motor there's no trees on the side of the road :(

    • @zwapz
      @zwapz 2 года назад +2

      And you will also fade away slowly inside the car.

  • @afnanahmed5996
    @afnanahmed5996 Год назад

    Won't the extra layer of carbon fiber cause deterioration in running power factor and hence more current drawn by the motor?

  • @yodasbff3395
    @yodasbff3395 2 года назад

    Good information 👍 .

  • @df9959
    @df9959 2 года назад +4

    When you talk about resistive losses, you should say "i-squared r" not "i-two r"

  • @beforebefore
    @beforebefore 2 года назад

    Wow... just 3 months ago your Axial Flux Motors video claimed that was the ideal solution...

  • @gonzalomorenoandonaegui2052
    @gonzalomorenoandonaegui2052 2 года назад +4

    Lesics What motor is better suited for electric aircraft, the IPMSynRM or axial flux motor ?

    • @getartsywithyogita8291
      @getartsywithyogita8291 2 года назад +1

      axial flux motor. because of its high power to weight ratio. next video coming up on that in 10 days.

    • @trezapoioiuy
      @trezapoioiuy 2 года назад +1

      @@getartsywithyogita8291 actually, whatever is more efficient and requires a smaller battery. There's little relevance in having a lighter motor if most of the weight comes from the battery anyway.

  • @runbou3485
    @runbou3485 2 года назад

    thankអរគុណបង

  • @samuelhalder2200
    @samuelhalder2200 2 года назад

    I don't understand why science feels boring in the class whereas it's very fascinating in this youtube video

  • @johnmohandas9717
    @johnmohandas9717 Год назад

    Post detailed video about electric vehicle Motor controller

  • @chunghoangtv8878
    @chunghoangtv8878 2 года назад

    Vấn đề khó khăn là nguồn năng lượng .
    Khi xe hết pin ,thời gian sạc đầy pin rất lâu . Đây là một điểm trừ so với động cơ đốt trong

  • @nirmal_t_rathod
    @nirmal_t_rathod 2 года назад

    Didn't even hear about IPMsynRM motors before this video😅

  • @coloradochecksandbalances5204
    @coloradochecksandbalances5204 2 года назад +1

    Nice learning tool!

  • @zakpower8503
    @zakpower8503 Месяц назад

    i prefer IM over IPM.
    When talking about electric car, it becomes weaker and weaker while it will be used in hard environment, the battery, and now the motor.
    Thinking about high temperature places !!! Using expensive and rare magnet just to get some extra battery saving and torque!!

  • @Doomsday_Life
    @Doomsday_Life 2 года назад

    Amazing information

  • @mrsmith7tronics
    @mrsmith7tronics Год назад

    Index
    05:32 Torque vs Speed performance comparison between IPM SynRM and Induction motors

  • @H1tman47
    @H1tman47 2 года назад +6

    How does the conductive carbon fiber interact with the spinning magnetic fields? Is there any induced current?

    • @joy2000cyber
      @joy2000cyber 2 года назад +5

      Since the permanent magnets are synced with the rotating magnetic field, from the perspective of any conductor on the rotor, the RMF is still, so no induced current. There might be a little induced current when speed changes, and it helps rotor and RMF sync up quicker, but rotor doesn’t rely on it, unlike induction motor. That’s why sync motor is more efficient than async motor. But there is possibility that the permanent magnets lose the magnetic property, by heat or external alternating magnetic field. So induction motor is more reliable.

    • @H1tman47
      @H1tman47 2 года назад

      ​@@joy2000cyber The same can be said about the rest of the rotor right? If what you say is the case, why do the bridges matter to begin with?
      In the animation it also seem like the rotor is "sliced" vertically, likely to limit the eddy currents in the radial direction. It feels like the continuous carbon fiber sleeve would conduct the electricity radially.
      What gives?

    • @klave8511
      @klave8511 2 года назад

      They spin at the same rate so no current is induced, there’s no changing magnetic field. Induction motors need the “slip” to generate current which in turn generate the magnetic field that causes rotation.

    • @brianb-p6586
      @brianb-p6586 2 года назад

      @@H1tman47 Yes, the rotor is built of many thin steel plates, but to stop eddy currents in the axial direction.

  • @resettingballs
    @resettingballs 2 года назад

    Wonderful!!

  • @tygrallure6895
    @tygrallure6895 2 года назад

    Question now is, can you replace the induction motor with this newer motor? Would it work well in hybrid vehicles? Or is this only good in an all electric vehicle?

    • @1djbecker
      @1djbecker 2 года назад

      An induction motor has lower freewheel drag, which makes it a better choice for occasionally used additional motors on an AWD system.

    • @brianb-p6586
      @brianb-p6586 2 года назад

      Most hybrid vehicles already use synchronous PM motors.

  • @circuitdotlt
    @circuitdotlt 2 года назад

    So in the end Tesla ditched induction motor (it was strange to me they used one due to low efficiency) and wen for PMSM like everyone else.

  • @isaks3243
    @isaks3243 2 года назад +1

    well, the power to weight ratio in an elecric motor isn't doing much of a difference if you ask me. it is a couple kilos different whilst having a battery that weighs many hundreds of kilos.

    • @HermanWillems
      @HermanWillems 2 года назад

      Weight is a none issue. Everybody who had calculations at school regarding rolling mass knows this. It's about aerodynamics.

    • @john3260
      @john3260 2 года назад

      @@HermanWillems Excessive mass can be an issue if you are interested with the car's handling performance. By having a lighter car, it will be easier to turn, downforce would have more of an effect, suspension systems would work better, and the tyres would have better grip and an extended lifespan as well. Basically, having a lower mass means a lower moment of inertia, which would greatly improve a car's handling performance. That is why Formula 1 teams are obsessed with removing as much mass as possible.
      Also, another thing to note is the importance of how that mass is packaged. If the packaging is compact, the radius of gyration (gyradius) will be lesser, which would improve handling characteristics. However, this comes at the cost of possibly reducing the lifespan of the powertrain components because they are much closer to each other and the heat that is given off from particular components (for example, the motor, which both internal combustion engines and electric motors, do give off quite a bit of heat) will have an easier time finding its way to the other components.
      In summary, mass and its distribution is critical to automobile engineering.

  • @Jakoba14
    @Jakoba14 2 года назад

    Excellent engineering

  • @boggscory
    @boggscory Год назад

    Magnets. How do they work?

  • @fizeyent8989
    @fizeyent8989 6 месяцев назад

    Thanks

  • @tedliu40
    @tedliu40 2 года назад

    Looks like the new synrm motor is 6 phases, isn’t it?

  • @bobwferguson
    @bobwferguson 2 года назад

    Thank u