I have both and shot both for years.. anecdotally, I often had just as good or better results in the field with my 20 gauge than my companions carrying 12's... the secret was that the gun was quicker on target, being more manageable, and follow up shots were quicker and more accurate due to less recoil... Kept 8's to 6's in the right barrel and 6's - 4's in the left, depending on what we were hunting,,rarely had anything get away...
I prefer the 20 gauge. I use a Beretta 390 and a Rem 1187 both in 20 gauge. I have not noticed a significant difference in game killing power using 20 gauge. To me the 3" 20 is about equivalent to 3/4" 12 gauge. The recoil on the 20 is less and is a faster handling gun. I also have rifled slug barrels for my 20 gauge shotguns. I have no issue using a 20 gauge slug barrel for deer or hogs. 20 gauge for me.
You are not losing any distance or "power" in a 20 ga vs 12 ga. The only thing you are doing is losing pellet count and it is not that much. A 12 ga 1 1/8 oz 4 shot has 216 pellets and a 20 ga 1 oz 4 shot has 192. Same size load in 2 shot is a difference of 16 pellets.
As a 14 year old waterfowl hunter I’ve shot both and like both during dove season I killed the game I shot the nose doves out of the group for all days with the 20 . And then duck season came I would switch between 12 and 20 for every other day. And then my grandfather who’s been hunting waterfowl for 50 or so years told me to do a weekend hunt and see between the 2 what I shot beat with and it was the 12 guage shooting 3 in 1 1/4 oz number 2 shot. And I used that for better half of the season and loved it until I started to pick that 20 back up and the first day I did I killed a banded pintail so I shot the 20 for the rest of the season and I showed the people in our group up with shooting and I was shooting between a Kent 3 in 1 oz number 2 that’s a 15-20 % bismuth load and a boss 3 in 1 1/8 oz number 4s and loved them always had a full choke in Ik some people say 12 is better for shooting long range well there wrong u can shoot the same distance but have to take a good shot. I personally always liked 20 guage in timber cause so much smoother and light to swing and also liked it in the feilds but I liked 12 as well in feild but overall I say stick with 1 gun 1 choke tube 1 ammo brand and shot size .
I have a friend who is a total enabler. He'll ask me to go to gun stores because he wants to find a gun from some obscure manufacturer I've never heard of, but somehow I always end up being the only one buying. I didn't even leave the house wanting to buy something! 😂
I really miss the old H&R break open single shots. I wish I had a single shot H&R Break Open, Similar to the single shot Shotguns, with a 18" Barrel, fully adjustable iron sights, the front post being a "night sght" or high vis sight, chambered in.. 350 legend.
12 ga is better then 20 ga most of the time...For older men, women and Children I would chose a 20ga because the gun is lighter and is handier. I use a 20ga pump for home defense however keep in mind that AMMO is more EXPENSIVE and you get less variety of loads with the 20 ga....THAT is why I own Both gauges...Use them both it's fun to have both !!!
I've used both and I've made some surprising 20ga shots nearly 50 yards sometimes which isn't even thought of for the gauge but if you only hunt long range game, 12ga is consistent all the way
Im looking at getting a 20 for my sister. She cant handle the 12 gauge it kicks just a little to hard so i was hoping mabey a 20 gauge with a light shot will that be enough to make shotguns enjoyable for her?
i use 20 gauge for basically everything. waterfowl hunting is where the 12 gauge shines. you are using large shot so the larger bore diameter is a plus.
I have a mix of loaded shotguns for home defense, two 12, two 20.. I eventually plan to put away the 20-ga, and replace both of them with 12-ga Federal shorty.
I prefer 20 gauge. It's still powerful with less recoil, cheaper reloads than the 12, and since I prefer a double-barreled shotgun, it keeps the weapon lighter for hunting.
This is merely my opinion... Unless you are a very very small framed person or have issues with recoil a 12 gauge definitely seems like it's the way to go. The only 20 gauge I've ever owned in my life is something that's a bit of an antique and it was left to me by a relative. Aside from that it's 12 gauge across the board. So many different types of ammunition out there for shotguns these days. But what it boils down to in the end is personal opinion and ability. Whatever your choice may be... Just be safe.
If the pursuit is for bird hunting where extended trips on foot are required, especially in rolling-to-hilly terrain, I prefer the 20 due to it being about a pound lighter. It makes a huge difference. To mitigate for less pellets I opt for 3-inch shells, which is roughly equivalent to a 12 in 2-3/4 inch shell. If waterfowling, I opt for the 12 in 3-1/2 inch for typical scenarios. If in green timber where the ducks are dropping in at close range, I opt for 2-3/4 inch or even a 20 in 2-3/4 inch.
Set aside the fantasy dreams of home defense and playing tactical tight t-shirt bearded tough guy. In the real world of us putting meat on the table, we couldn’t care less about how a shotgun looks. It’s only a freakin shotgun, not arm candy for the range. Get any $150 pawn shop special. Ain’t no accuracy issues with a shotgun. A 12 for a few duck shots, a 20 for all-day long shooting at doves. Your shoulder will thank you. But buy one with screw in choke tubes. Never underestimate a super-spreader skeet choke for clays and doves.
Thank you. Run my turkey choke when turkey and goose hunting and do just fine you just have to aim and time a little better with the smaller pellet count.
I have two Stevens shotguns. One in 12 ga and the other in 20 ga. Both are identical in weight and dimensions. And while there are downloaded ammo availabl3 in 12 ga for less recoil, you don't have the option of increasing the 20 ga to 12 ga power. Also, 12 ga stuff is more readily available on the market than 20 ga stuff. So what is the advantage of a 20 ga?
Why not both. the SBE3 shoots high but you can get used to it. The M2 in 20 hasn't had the same issue so you almost to have to put a mental note on the SBE3 if you pull it out to go hunt that you need to aim low.
@@dancortes3062 Yeah its dropped to the lowest it came with. Ive got it just about right now, just a smidge high and you can float birds. Just sort of hard to make the calculation for straight up shots. I love the gun though and refuse to not hunt with it.
How bout the camo finish. Don't it wear off where you hold it after a while.?? Would kinda suck to pay an arm & a leg for a dam shotgun & it wear off in 5yrs or sooner where your hands touch it
When thugs come crashing thru your front door you get a rush of adrenaline enabling you to have more strength to fight hence, recoil is not a factor as your focus is on stopping the threat. Anyone can tolerate several shots of 12 gauge in order to save your life. With muscle building of the arms you can learn to handle 12g. Use the Federal 3 inch shell with 15 pellets of #00 as it will kill the beast. Get tough or die!!
@@Perry2186 Follow up shots are the result of your training. There are many YT Videos of guys doing it quite fast with the 12g. 20g slug is a man stopper too.
I went 20 gauge. I wanted to be surgical with. Very precise and follow up shot are way easier in my opinion.
Ah, the 20 gauge. The so-called "woman's shotgun." 🤣
@@f-puppetwell , if I’m not there and my wife needs it… yeah.
I have both and shot both for years.. anecdotally, I often had just as good or better results in the field with my 20 gauge than my companions carrying 12's... the secret was that the gun was quicker on target, being more manageable, and follow up shots were quicker and more accurate due to less recoil... Kept 8's to 6's in the right barrel and 6's - 4's in the left, depending on what we were hunting,,rarely had anything get away...
I prefer the 20 gauge. I use a Beretta 390 and a Rem 1187 both in 20 gauge. I have not noticed a significant difference in game killing power using 20 gauge. To me the 3" 20 is about equivalent to 3/4" 12 gauge. The recoil on the 20 is less and is a faster handling gun. I also have rifled slug barrels for my 20 gauge shotguns. I have no issue using a 20 gauge slug barrel for deer or hogs. 20 gauge for me.
You are not losing any distance or "power" in a 20 ga vs 12 ga. The only thing you are doing is losing pellet count and it is not that much. A 12 ga 1 1/8 oz 4 shot has 216 pellets and a 20 ga 1 oz 4 shot has 192. Same size load in 2 shot is a difference of 16 pellets.
@jacobfarley824 good points. I really do prefer my 20 gauge shotguns.
As a 14 year old waterfowl hunter I’ve shot both and like both during dove season I killed the game I shot the nose doves out of the group for all days with the 20 . And then duck season came I would switch between 12 and 20 for every other day. And then my grandfather who’s been hunting waterfowl for 50 or so years told me to do a weekend hunt and see between the 2 what I shot beat with and it was the 12 guage shooting 3 in 1 1/4 oz number 2 shot. And I used that for better half of the season and loved it until I started to pick that 20 back up and the first day I did I killed a banded pintail so I shot the 20 for the rest of the season and I showed the people in our group up with shooting and I was shooting between a Kent 3 in 1 oz number 2 that’s a 15-20 % bismuth load and a boss 3 in 1 1/8 oz number 4s and loved them always had a full choke in Ik some people say 12 is better for shooting long range well there wrong u can shoot the same distance but have to take a good shot. I personally always liked 20 guage in timber cause so much smoother and light to swing and also liked it in the feilds but I liked 12 as well in feild but overall I say stick with 1 gun 1 choke tube 1 ammo brand and shot size .
In the words of the great enabler - why not both?
This is the correct answer.
I have a friend who is a total enabler. He'll ask me to go to gun stores because he wants to find a gun from some obscure manufacturer I've never heard of, but somehow I always end up being the only one buying. I didn't even leave the house wanting to buy something! 😂
I really miss the old H&R break open single shots.
I wish I had a single shot H&R Break Open, Similar to the single shot Shotguns, with a 18" Barrel, fully adjustable iron sights, the front post being a "night sght" or high vis sight, chambered in.. 350 legend.
If you want less recoil get the half shells (for sure research which shoties do better with these specific shells). Thanks for the video!
12 ga is better then 20 ga most of the time...For older men, women and Children I would chose a 20ga because the gun is lighter and is handier. I use a 20ga pump for home defense however keep in mind that AMMO is more EXPENSIVE and you get less variety of loads with the 20 ga....THAT is why I own Both gauges...Use them both it's fun to have both !!!
I've used both and I've made some surprising 20ga shots nearly 50 yards sometimes which isn't even thought of for the gauge but if you only hunt long range game, 12ga is consistent all the way
Im looking at getting a 20 for my sister. She cant handle the 12 gauge it kicks just a little to hard so i was hoping mabey a 20 gauge with a light shot will that be enough to make shotguns enjoyable for her?
i use 20 gauge for basically everything. waterfowl hunting is where the 12 gauge shines. you are using large shot so the larger bore diameter is a plus.
I have a mix of loaded shotguns for home defense, two 12, two 20.. I eventually plan to put away the 20-ga, and replace both of them with 12-ga Federal shorty.
I choose 20 gauge for slug hunting in a slug barrel
I prefer 20 gauge. It's still powerful with less recoil, cheaper reloads than the 12, and since I prefer a double-barreled shotgun, it keeps the weapon lighter for hunting.
This is merely my opinion... Unless you are a very very small framed person or have issues with recoil a 12 gauge definitely seems like it's the way to go. The only 20 gauge I've ever owned in my life is something that's a bit of an antique and it was left to me by a relative. Aside from that it's 12 gauge across the board. So many different types of ammunition out there for shotguns these days. But what it boils down to in the end is personal opinion and ability. Whatever your choice may be... Just be safe.
If the pursuit is for bird hunting where extended trips on foot are required, especially in rolling-to-hilly terrain, I prefer the 20 due to it being about a pound lighter. It makes a huge difference. To mitigate for less pellets I opt for 3-inch shells, which is roughly equivalent to a 12 in 2-3/4 inch shell. If waterfowling, I opt for the 12 in 3-1/2 inch for typical scenarios. If in green timber where the ducks are dropping in at close range, I opt for 2-3/4 inch or even a 20 in 2-3/4 inch.
Great explanation on 20 verses 12 gauge
Very helpful and well compared.
Set aside the fantasy dreams of home defense and playing tactical tight t-shirt bearded tough guy.
In the real world of us putting meat on the table, we couldn’t care less about how a shotgun looks. It’s only a freakin shotgun, not arm candy for the range. Get any $150 pawn shop special. Ain’t no accuracy issues with a shotgun. A 12 for a few duck shots, a 20 for all-day long shooting at doves. Your shoulder will thank you. But buy one with screw in choke tubes. Never underestimate a super-spreader skeet choke for clays and doves.
20 gauge for everything. If you can’t kill a goose with a 20 gauge then quit sky busting.
Thank you. Run my turkey choke when turkey and goose hunting and do just fine you just have to aim and time a little better with the smaller pellet count.
2:19 both guns safety is in the fire postion... wow
My 26in fox loves #4 buck.. but I have to change guns to shoot slugs.. I'm much more accurate with 20 gauge slugs than with 12's..
I look at 12 v. 20 similarly to how I view standard v. automatic transmission. Learn on a 20, then the 12 will be easy.
Or if like me your first gun was a 12ga, going from that to anything else feels like a pellet gun
If you want a little more payload but not so much recoil
Why not a 28 gauge?
I have two Stevens shotguns. One in 12 ga and the other in 20 ga. Both are identical in weight and dimensions. And while there are downloaded ammo availabl3 in 12 ga for less recoil, you don't have the option of increasing the 20 ga to 12 ga power. Also, 12 ga stuff is more readily available on the market than 20 ga stuff. So what is the advantage of a 20 ga?
Lighter gun.
Lighter gun, lighter ammo, flatter trajectory with slugs... but most importantly, I just *like* it.
Does the 20ga have a tighter pattern than the 12ga?
No it does not
Chokes play that part
Why not both. the SBE3 shoots high but you can get used to it. The M2 in 20 hasn't had the same issue so you almost to have to put a mental note on the SBE3 if you pull it out to go hunt that you need to aim low.
Have you tried adjusting the drop on you SBE3 stock?
@@dancortes3062 Yeah its dropped to the lowest it came with. Ive got it just about right now, just a smidge high and you can float birds. Just sort of hard to make the calculation for straight up shots. I love the gun though and refuse to not hunt with it.
How bout the camo finish. Don't it wear off where you hold it after a while.?? Would kinda suck to pay an arm & a leg for a dam shotgun & it wear off in 5yrs or sooner where your hands touch it
I'm trying to drop an 8 point living near my house
When thugs come crashing thru your front door you get a rush of adrenaline enabling you to have more strength to fight hence, recoil is not a factor as your focus is on stopping the threat. Anyone can tolerate several shots of 12 gauge in order to save your life. With muscle building of the arms you can learn to handle 12g. Use the Federal 3 inch shell with 15 pellets of #00 as it will kill the beast. Get tough or die!!
a 20ga slug is just as effective as a 12 with better ability to follow up
@@Perry2186 Follow up shots are the result of your training. There are many YT Videos of guys doing it quite fast with the 12g. 20g slug is a man stopper too.
Silly...You choose the 12 unless your a small.